Re: [Elecraft] SSBCW VFO offset
Tony Fegan VE3QF wrote: Bill W5WVO wrote: This is something I thought already behaved the way I want it to, but it doesn't seem to. I've read through the manual, so if I'm missing something, somebody please tell me. If I'm copying a 6m CW signal in USB mode and switch the K3 to CW(REV) mode (which corresponds to USB), I want to see the VFO change frequency in the right direction (up, in this instance, or down when switching from CW(REV) to USB)) by the amount of the PITCH frequency. It doesn't. This means when switching from CW to SSB or back, I lose sync with the CW signal I was copying. We want to be able to stay in pitch-sync with a CW signal while switching back and forth between SSB If there is a setting that already sets the K3 up with this behavior, I'd like to know what it is. Otherwise, could we please have an implementation of this at the earliest opportunity? The CW-in-SSB mode behavior works great, and I love it! But we also need this VFO-offset behavior when switching between these modes as well. It should be an option you can set in Config -- Auto offset VFO CW/SSB or something like that. In the Kenwood TS-2000, it's called Frequency correction for SSB-to-CW change (ON/OFF). We VHF ops would be very grateful. Hi Bill, Firmware release 1.87 introduced this new feature: * CW KEYING IN SSB MODES: While in SSB modes, you can now send CW without changing modes or using an offset. The other station will hear the signal at your CW pitch. This is especially useful on VHF bands when SSB signals can’t be copied. To enable this feature, go into CONFIG:CW WGHT and tap ‘1’ until you see SSB +CW. Just hit the key. No need to switch modes. It is very convenient. If your contact comes back on CW, make sure auto notch is off and you may want to change the filter width if copying gets tough. Hope this helps. Auto-CW does help, but the present version does not provide all the features that Bill and other VHF ops need. At present we're working around it, and hoping that an upgrade is on the list. -- 73 from Ian GM3SEK ___ Elecraft mailing list Post to: Elecraft@mailman.qth.net You must be a subscriber to post to the list. Subscriber Info (Addr. Change, sub, unsub etc.): http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/subscribers.htm Elecraft web page: http://www.elecraft.com
Re: [Elecraft] Re: K3 Key-down on power-up [Solution?]
And this is why we love Elecraft - I can't see any other manufacture responding positively with a solution, that's alone so quickly. Most other manufactures would just say 'Caveat Emptor' - don't do it then! Boy am I glad I bought my K3 :) 73 de M0XDF, K3 #174 -- Patience serves as a protection against wrongs as clothes do against cold. For if you put on more clothes as the cold increases, it will have no power to hurt you. So in like manner you must grow in patience when you meet with great wrongs, and they will then be powerless to vex your mind. -Leonardo da Vinci, painter, engineer, musician, and scientist (1452-1519) On 28 Jun 2008, at 06:26, wayne burdick wrote: Don, By a few seconds I meant that it would have to detect the condition in that window, on power-up. But if it did detect key-down in this window, it would remain in the TX-inhibit condition for as long as the key-down persisted. Wayne On Jun 27, 2008, at 9:31 PM, Don Wilhelm wrote: Wayne, Given the situation, reasons, and consequences, I believe something like what you suggested would be the best solution. If you can extend the time beyond 'the first couple of seconds' (enough time to change the menu or power down), that would be helpful IMHO. 73, Don W3FPR wayne burdick wrote: Dave, I wanted to run a possible solution past you. I could prevent the rig from being keyed (by any method) during the first couple of seconds that it's powered up. Instead, it could detect this case, and display a repeating message (something like: KEYLINE IS ACTIVE) until you either remove the source of the keying or turn power off. Thoughts on this? 73, Wayne N6KR ___ Elecraft mailing list Post to: Elecraft@mailman.qth.net You must be a subscriber to post to the list. Subscriber Info (Addr. Change, sub, unsub etc.): http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/subscribers.htm Elecraft web page: http://www.elecraft.com
Re: [Elecraft] SSBCW VFO offset
What we are talking about is as already published in wish-list on zerobeat forum: http://www.zerobeat.net/smf/index.php?topic=228.0 FREQUENCY CORRECTION FOR CW - OFF/ON If you operate both SSB and CW modes, you would sometimes use SSB mode (USB or LSB) just to watch and listen to CW signals. It is fine just to monitor those CW signals but you have experienced that changing the mode from SSB to CW results in losing the target CW signal. This is because the frequency on the display always shows the true carrier frequency for all modes. If you want the transceiver to shift the reception frequency to trace the receiving CW signal when changing the mode from SSB (USB or LSB) to CW, switch this function ON. The transceiver shifts the reception frequency when changing the mode from SSB to CW, so you can still hear the target signal and instantly transmit the signal in CW without adjusting the frequency. I also hope in future revision of fw :-) 73! Lexa, ok1dst Ian White GM3SEK napsal(a): Tony Fegan VE3QF wrote: Bill W5WVO wrote: This is something I thought already behaved the way I want it to, but it doesn't seem to. I've read through the manual, so if I'm missing something, somebody please tell me. If I'm copying a 6m CW signal in USB mode and switch the K3 to CW(REV) mode (which corresponds to USB), I want to see the VFO change his frequency in the right direction (up, in this instance, or down when switching from CW(REV) to USB)) by the amount of the PITCH frequency. It doesn't. This means when switching from CW to SSB or back, I lose sync with the CW signal I was copying. We want to be able to stay in pitch-sync with a CW signal while switching back and forth between SSB If there is a setting that already sets the K3 up with this behavior, I'd like to know what it is. Otherwise, could we please have an implementation of this at the earliest opportunity? The CW-in-SSB mode behavior works great, and I love it! But we also need this VFO-offset behavior when switching between these modes as well. It should be an option you can set in Config -- Auto offset VFO CW/SSB or something like that. In the Kenwood TS-2000, it's called Frequency correction for SSB-to-CW change (ON/OFF). We VHF ops would be very grateful. Hi Bill, Firmware release 1.87 introduced this new feature: * CW KEYING IN SSB MODES: While in SSB modes, you can now send CW without changing modes or using an offset. The other station will hear the signal at your CW pitch. This is especially useful on VHF bands when SSB signals can’t be copied. To enable this feature, go into CONFIG:CW WGHT and tap ‘1’ until you see SSB +CW. Just hit the key. No need to switch modes. It is very convenient. If your contact comes back on CW, make sure auto notch is off and you may want to change the filter width if copying gets tough. Hope this helps. Auto-CW does help, but the present version does not provide all the features that Bill and other VHF ops need. At present we're working around it, and hoping that an upgrade is on the list. ___ Elecraft mailing list Post to: Elecraft@mailman.qth.net You must be a subscriber to post to the list. Subscriber Info (Addr. Change, sub, unsub etc.): http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/subscribers.htm Elecraft web page: http://www.elecraft.com
Re: [Elecraft] K3 Key-down on power-up
Don Wilhelm wrote: close to it when the computer is not powered. If you check the R-232 signal levels you will find that the region around zero volts (+3v to -3v) is undefined - the system is designed that way to include noise Actually, for some modem control lines, it is well defined, and, if you use standard line receivers, it is well defined for all inputs. Zero volts is required to read as OFF. E.g the Fairchild 1489A is guaranteed to be OFF for any input less than +750mV. immunity - the RS-232 receiver output might be either ON or OFF when its The plus and minus three volts are driver specifications. Typical receivers have a rather narrow transition region, but with a rather wider hysterisis band, which is still only about 150mV (1489A), or less. input is at zero volts - it is not predictable and the real state depends on the behavior of the particular LT1039ACN driver/receiver chip It should not, the positive going threshold should be definitely greater than zero volts. in the K3. Couple that with the fact that the RS-232 'no signal' or 'Space' state must be between +3 and +15 volts to assure an OFF RS232 uses positive logic for control signals and negative logic for data, so +3 volts is *ON* and SPACE, when using normal line receivers. This is on the line side. Typical drivers, and receivers, are inverting, so the TTL side has negative logic controls and positive logic data. condition at the output of the RS-232 receiver - there is just no way to avoid the 'problem'. As a result, if your K3 is set for PTT-KEY from the RTS or DTR lines, it would be prudent to power the computer on before the K3 so these input signals are at a defined state (hopefully 'space'). Even unplugging the The zero voltage state is MARK, not space, but I suspect that you may actually be referring to the CW MARK state and actually representing it by an RS232 SPACE state. If you actually have RS232 MARK set to CW mark, you will get problems from unpowered drivers. cable will not help because that will also result in zero volts at the input. -- David Woolley The Elecraft list is a forum for the discussion of topics related to Elecraft products and more general topics related ham radio List Guidelines http://www.elecraft.com/elecraft_list_guidelines.htm ___ Elecraft mailing list Post to: Elecraft@mailman.qth.net You must be a subscriber to post to the list. Subscriber Info (Addr. Change, sub, unsub etc.): http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/subscribers.htm Elecraft web page: http://www.elecraft.com
[Elecraft] Err Txg
I could fix the problem with the misssing power jumper block- I installed the KPAIO 3 instead-thanks for your help by the way. Now I´m stuck again at the Transmiter Gain calibration.Err TXg occured on the display on every band and there is no power output.The rx seems to be deaf, I can only hear very loud signals.I checked everything again-the frequency offset is okay, but when I came to the transmit crystal filter selection I could not select a transmit filter value(e.g 2700kHz), but only the filter numbers(1-5)! Any ideas? 73,Chris-OE5CSP -- View this message in context: http://www.nabble.com/Err-Txg-tp18168818p18168818.html Sent from the Elecraft mailing list archive at Nabble.com. ___ Elecraft mailing list Post to: Elecraft@mailman.qth.net You must be a subscriber to post to the list. Subscriber Info (Addr. Change, sub, unsub etc.): http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/subscribers.htm Elecraft web page: http://www.elecraft.com
RE: [Elecraft] K3 Key-down on power-up (TEST icon)
Ed Muns, W0YK wrote: I would vote not to make Test mode persistent. While I find it very useful, it can be a trap for an inexperienced K3 user, to whom it might look like the radio simply isn't working. There is no indication that the radio is in Test mode, other than the failure to transmit. Actually, there is a (subtle) indication ... the TX icon blinks when in TX TEST mode. 73, Ed - W0YK ___ Elecraft mailing list Post to: Elecraft@mailman.qth.net You must be a subscriber to post to the list. Subscriber Info (Addr. Change, sub, unsub etc.): http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/subscribers.htm Elecraft web page: http://www.elecraft.com Personally I would like the TX icon to blink at a faster rate than it does. Don't know much about peripheral perception etc but I find it easy to miss the 'blink' and sometimes start calling someone when in TEST mode. (I normally have the computer monitor in front and K3 to one side) A minor point but on the other hand something that would presumably be easy enough to change if others felt similar..? 73, Stewart Rolfe, GW0ETF (K3 145) -- View this message in context: http://www.nabble.com/K3-Key-down-on-power-up-tp18158201p18168912.html Sent from the Elecraft mailing list archive at Nabble.com. ___ Elecraft mailing list Post to: Elecraft@mailman.qth.net You must be a subscriber to post to the list. Subscriber Info (Addr. Change, sub, unsub etc.): http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/subscribers.htm Elecraft web page: http://www.elecraft.com
[Elecraft] KX1 : poor sensitivity on 30/20 m with KBX3080
Good morning, I installed the KBX3080 module and all seems to run OK. Tx power juste fine on all bands. Great sensivity on 40/80 (0.2 µV), but poor sensivity on 30 and 20 (0.8 and 1.0 µV). Transmit low pass filter is OK. KBX3080 module tensions (versus freq.) are OK too and adj. condenser are right installed. I tried to inject RF along the RX chain : at point A still poor sensitivity, at pot R1 side L6 end, full sensivity (0.2 µB or even better). I then changed L6, still poor sensitivity. The problem seems to be in the module itself, but no idea where. Any help and/or idea welcome ! 73 Luc/F6HJO/HB9ABB ___ Elecraft mailing list Post to: Elecraft@mailman.qth.net You must be a subscriber to post to the list. Subscriber Info (Addr. Change, sub, unsub etc.): http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/subscribers.htm Elecraft web page: http://www.elecraft.com
Re: [Elecraft] [K3] Turning filters off/on
W7TEA wrote: I have the 500 and 200 hz filters installed. Most of the time I prefer using the 500 hz filter even when narrowing the DSP filtering to 200 hz or below. Is there an easy and fast way to engage the 200 hz roofing filter during those rare occasions when it is needed without going into the config menu to turn it on? Gary the simplest way is to use K3 Utility Configuration Edit Crystal Filters instead of the K3's CONFIG menu. Once you have that menu active it's very easy to toggle the 200 on or off. 73, Bill -- View this message in context: http://www.nabble.com/-K3--Turning-filters-off-on-tp18166952p18169229.html Sent from the Elecraft mailing list archive at Nabble.com. ___ Elecraft mailing list Post to: Elecraft@mailman.qth.net You must be a subscriber to post to the list. Subscriber Info (Addr. Change, sub, unsub etc.): http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/subscribers.htm Elecraft web page: http://www.elecraft.com
[Elecraft] Re: [K3] Transmit AM through FM Filter?
Thanks for all the answers. To set the story straight, the reasoning behind the question was not to determine if I could transmit hi-fi AM, it's simply a matter of cost. At $125 a clip for an AM filter and the fact that I may only transmit AM once or twice in a lifetime, I couldn't see the extra cost to add the AM filter if TX through the FM filter worked. Since others have already identified that a filter can be fooled into thinking it's a different bandwidth, I do have a plan that I'll try somewhere down the road. Looking at the schematics it appears to be an easy solution that I can use an empty filter spot and diode switch (add two diodes) that position into an FM filter consumed location. That empty spot would be designated as the AM filter spot. Yeah, I know, it's only $125, but I'm a cheapskate. 73, Dan -- N3ND ___ Elecraft mailing list Post to: Elecraft@mailman.qth.net You must be a subscriber to post to the list. Subscriber Info (Addr. Change, sub, unsub etc.): http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/subscribers.htm Elecraft web page: http://www.elecraft.com
Re: [Elecraft] SSBCW VFO offset
Thanks for pointing this out. Wayne has confirmed to me that it's on his list. Hopefully we'll get it Real Soon Now. ;-) Bill W5WVO Alexandr Kobranov wrote: What we are talking about is as already published in wish-list on zerobeat forum: http://www.zerobeat.net/smf/index.php?topic=228.0 FREQUENCY CORRECTION FOR CW - OFF/ON If you operate both SSB and CW modes, you would sometimes use SSB mode (USB or LSB) just to watch and listen to CW signals. It is fine just to monitor those CW signals but you have experienced that changing the mode from SSB to CW results in losing the target CW signal. This is because the frequency on the display always shows the true carrier frequency for all modes. If you want the transceiver to shift the reception frequency to trace the receiving CW signal when changing the mode from SSB (USB or LSB) to CW, switch this function ON. The transceiver shifts the reception frequency when changing the mode from SSB to CW, so you can still hear the target signal and instantly transmit the signal in CW without adjusting the frequency. I also hope in future revision of fw :-) 73! Lexa, ok1dst Ian White GM3SEK napsal(a): Tony Fegan VE3QF wrote: Bill W5WVO wrote: This is something I thought already behaved the way I want it to, but it doesn't seem to. I've read through the manual, so if I'm missing something, somebody please tell me. If I'm copying a 6m CW signal in USB mode and switch the K3 to CW(REV) mode (which corresponds to USB), I want to see the VFO change his frequency in the right direction (up, in this instance, or down when switching from CW(REV) to USB)) by the amount of the PITCH frequency. It doesn't. This means when switching from CW to SSB or back, I lose sync with the CW signal I was copying. We want to be able to stay in pitch-sync with a CW signal while switching back and forth between SSB If there is a setting that already sets the K3 up with this behavior, I'd like to know what it is. Otherwise, could we please have an implementation of this at the earliest opportunity? The CW-in-SSB mode behavior works great, and I love it! But we also need this VFO-offset behavior when switching between these modes as well. It should be an option you can set in Config -- Auto offset VFO CW/SSB or something like that. In the Kenwood TS-2000, it's called Frequency correction for SSB-to-CW change (ON/OFF). We VHF ops would be very grateful. Hi Bill, Firmware release 1.87 introduced this new feature: * CW KEYING IN SSB MODES: While in SSB modes, you can now send CW without changing modes or using an offset. The other station will hear the signal at your CW pitch. This is especially useful on VHF bands when SSB signals can’t be copied. To enable this feature, go into CONFIG:CW WGHT and tap ‘1’ until you see SSB +CW. Just hit the key. No need to switch modes. It is very convenient. If your contact comes back on CW, make sure auto notch is off and you may want to change the filter width if copying gets tough. Hope this helps. Auto-CW does help, but the present version does not provide all the features that Bill and other VHF ops need. At present we're working around it, and hoping that an upgrade is on the list. ___ Elecraft mailing list Post to: Elecraft@mailman.qth.net You must be a subscriber to post to the list. Subscriber Info (Addr. Change, sub, unsub etc.): http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/subscribers.htm Elecraft web page: http://www.elecraft.com ___ Elecraft mailing list Post to: Elecraft@mailman.qth.net You must be a subscriber to post to the list. Subscriber Info (Addr. Change, sub, unsub etc.): http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/subscribers.htm Elecraft web page: http://www.elecraft.com
[Elecraft] Re: K3 Key-down on power-up [Solution?]
Wayne - good idea. But, only if PTT-KEY is set to enable PTT and/or keying. Thanks, Barry (WK2S) ___ Elecraft mailing list Post to: Elecraft@mailman.qth.net You must be a subscriber to post to the list. Subscriber Info (Addr. Change, sub, unsub etc.): http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/subscribers.htm Elecraft web page: http://www.elecraft.com
Re: [Elecraft] [K3] Transmit AM through FM Filter?
Don Wilhelm wrote: The 'without issue' part is important here. While it could possibly work, to work with spurs and other 'bad things happening' is not likely. Did you, instead, really mean without spurs... here? -- David Woolley The Elecraft list is a forum for the discussion of topics related to Elecraft products and more general topics related ham radio List Guidelines http://www.elecraft.com/elecraft_list_guidelines.htm ___ Elecraft mailing list Post to: Elecraft@mailman.qth.net You must be a subscriber to post to the list. Subscriber Info (Addr. Change, sub, unsub etc.): http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/subscribers.htm Elecraft web page: http://www.elecraft.com
[Elecraft] TESTING question
#1129 is alive. Synthesizer calibration done. First time ERR 00022. Turn off/on and redo and no errors. All bands show no PLL errors. Is this now the time to download the latest firmware? Rather do the xtal filter setup there since have four filters. Any tips on using the config program. Not interested in any beta software at this point. 73 de Brian/K3KO -- View this message in context: http://www.nabble.com/TESTING-question-tp18170433p18170433.html Sent from the Elecraft mailing list archive at Nabble.com. ___ Elecraft mailing list Post to: Elecraft@mailman.qth.net You must be a subscriber to post to the list. Subscriber Info (Addr. Change, sub, unsub etc.): http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/subscribers.htm Elecraft web page: http://www.elecraft.com
Re: [Elecraft] Re: K3 Key-down on power-up [Solution?]
Wayne, Instead of using an intial time delay, why not force the K3 to wait for a high-to- low transistion on the key line before it first transmits? 73, John, no8v Original message Date: Fri, 27 Jun 2008 19:51:01 -0700 From: wayne burdick [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: [Elecraft] Re: K3 Key-down on power-up [Solution?] To: Elecraft Reflector elecraft@mailman.qth.net Dave, I wanted to run a possible solution past you. I could prevent the rig from being keyed (by any method) during the first couple of seconds that it's powered up. Instead, it could detect this case, and display a repeating message (something like: KEYLINE IS ACTIVE) until you either remove the source of the keying or turn power off. Thoughts on this? 73, Wayne N6KR Dave Hachadorian, K6LL wrote: I've got my K3 set up for cw on Field Day with a laptop usb port driving a usb to serial converter. Rig control and cw keying are done over the serial cable, using the K3's built-in ability to send cw from pin 4(?) of the rs-232 cable. Everything works fine, but I got quite a scare when I turned on the K3 and it came up keyed-down 120 watts into no antenna. It seems that if the laptop is not running the logging program, rs-232 pin 4 can very well be in a key-down state. --- http://www.elecraft.com ___ Elecraft mailing list Post to: Elecraft@mailman.qth.net You must be a subscriber to post to the list. Subscriber Info (Addr. Change, sub, unsub etc.): http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/subscribers.htm Elecraft web page: http://www.elecraft.com ___ Elecraft mailing list Post to: Elecraft@mailman.qth.net You must be a subscriber to post to the list. Subscriber Info (Addr. Change, sub, unsub etc.): http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/subscribers.htm Elecraft web page: http://www.elecraft.com
Re: [Elecraft] KX1 : poor sensitivity on 30/20 m with KBX3080
Luc, Temporarily remove the wires that go to points 'A' and 'B' and try again to peak 20 meters (80 and 30 meters will not work with those wires removed). If 20 meters has good selectivity with the wires removed, then you can conclude that the 8030 module has a problem. OTOH, if 20 meters is still bad, then there is a problem in the low pass filter area. Check that K2 is not 'stuck' One end of capacitors C48 and C49 should be grounded on 40 meters, but not grounded on 20. Usually a problem with the low pass filter will show up with transmit. Do check the transmit power levels again. 73, Don W3FPR Luc Favre wrote: Good morning, I installed the KBX3080 module and all seems to run OK. Tx power juste fine on all bands. Great sensivity on 40/80 (0.2 µV), but poor sensivity on 30 and 20 (0.8 and 1.0 µV). Transmit low pass filter is OK. KBX3080 module tensions (versus freq.) are OK too and adj. condenser are right installed. I tried to inject RF along the RX chain : at point A still poor sensitivity, at pot R1 side L6 end, full sensivity (0.2 µB or even better). I then changed L6, still poor sensitivity. The problem seems to be in the module itself, but no idea where. Any help and/or idea welcome ! 73 Luc/F6HJO/HB9ABB ___ Elecraft mailing list Post to: Elecraft@mailman.qth.net You must be a subscriber to post to the list. Subscriber Info (Addr. Change, sub, unsub etc.): http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/subscribers.htm Elecraft web page: http://www.elecraft.com
[Elecraft] TESTING question
Hello Brian Yes, I'd set up the filters and satisfy yourself the K3 is working before updating the firmware. You can set the filters and save the config from the updater program, saving the config will give you peace of mind in case something goes wrong. The latest beta firmware has significantly improved noise reduction compared to what will be in your K3, so I wouldn't hesitate to recommend you download the 2.10 firmware. You need to also tick the box for always load DSP data tables as you can end up with funny faults with the DSP if you don't. Welcome to the world of the K3! 73 Dave, G4AON K3/100 #80 - Is this now the time to download the latest firmware? Rather do the xtal filter setup there since have four filters. Any tips on using the config program. Not interested in any beta software at this point. 73 de Brian/K3KO ___ Elecraft mailing list Post to: Elecraft@mailman.qth.net You must be a subscriber to post to the list. Subscriber Info (Addr. Change, sub, unsub etc.): http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/subscribers.htm Elecraft web page: http://www.elecraft.com
Re: [Elecraft] Re: K3 Key-down on power-up [Solution?]
John, I don't think that would work. The key line is not the only means of keying the K3 - the 'KY' command for instance can be used, or the TUNE button, or DTR or RTS keying. 73, Don W3FPR John H Gibson wrote: Wayne, Instead of using an intial time delay, why not force the K3 to wait for a high-to- low transistion on the key line before it first transmits? 73, John, no8v ___ Elecraft mailing list Post to: Elecraft@mailman.qth.net You must be a subscriber to post to the list. Subscriber Info (Addr. Change, sub, unsub etc.): http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/subscribers.htm Elecraft web page: http://www.elecraft.com
Re: [Elecraft] [K3] CW feature: Swing?
In my view, the so called bug swing is anything but nice! Why anyone would try to send anything but correctly formed code characters is beyond me! Dave W7AQK - Original Message - From: Tom Childers, N5GE [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [Elecraft] elecraft@mailman.qth.net Sent: Friday, June 27, 2008 7:10 PM Subject: Re: [Elecraft] [K3] CW feature: Swing? On Fri, 27 Jun 2008 13:34:23 -0600, Bill W5WVO [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I got used to this feature on the TS-2000. You can set dash/dot ratio to a number less than or greater than 3.0 (where 3.0 is the default standard -- i.e., the dash is three times the length of the dot). After experimenting, I set mine to 3.7, which gave the transmitted CW a nice little bug-like swing. At first, I thought this was what the K3's CW weight parameter was for, but I immediately discovered that wasn't the case. Would any of you other CW guys out there use such an adjustment in the K3 if it were implemented? I find that's how I naturally want to send, probably a holdover from my bug days years ago. Bill W5WVO [snip] I would never use it. Tom, N5GE - SWOT 3537 - Grid EM12jq Those who would give up Essential Liberty to purchase a little Temporary Safety deserve neither Liberty nor Safety An excerpt from a letter written in 1755 from the Assembly to the Governor of Pennsylvania. Support the entire Constitution, not just the parts you like. http://www.n5ge.com http://www.eQSL.cc/Member.cfm?N5GE ___ Elecraft mailing list Post to: Elecraft@mailman.qth.net You must be a subscriber to post to the list. Subscriber Info (Addr. Change, sub, unsub etc.): http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/subscribers.htm Elecraft web page: http://www.elecraft.com ___ Elecraft mailing list Post to: Elecraft@mailman.qth.net You must be a subscriber to post to the list. Subscriber Info (Addr. Change, sub, unsub etc.): http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/subscribers.htm Elecraft web page: http://www.elecraft.com
[Elecraft] 2.10B narrow filter anomaly
I have been using ver 1.78 that shipped with rig and been quite pleased. Figured I should update.When tuned to a steady tone (CW too!) I now get a beat note effect on the width setting 100hz and 50hz only. I have a 250hz filter. Turn on IIR fixes problem. Only hear on FIR DSP. Sounds like two identical freq tones beating - tuning the sig to a precise freq causes effect to disappear. This is annoying to listen to. SN#707 Gill W4RYW -- View this message in context: http://www.nabble.com/2.10B-narrow-filter-anomaly-tp18171265p18171265.html Sent from the Elecraft mailing list archive at Nabble.com. ___ Elecraft mailing list Post to: Elecraft@mailman.qth.net You must be a subscriber to post to the list. Subscriber Info (Addr. Change, sub, unsub etc.): http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/subscribers.htm Elecraft web page: http://www.elecraft.com
[Elecraft] Re: K3 Key-down on power-up [Solution?]
This is another way of describing what I'm proposing, John. If /KEY is found asserted anytime during the 2-second power-on sequence, the K3 might show ERR KEY and prevent TX until the line as been released. If re-asserted anytime after that, the message would go away by itself, and TX would proceed normally. I can catch premature /PTT assertion, too. So there would also be an ERR PTT message. Same logic. Sound OK? 73, Wayne N6KR On Jun 28, 2008, at 6:58 AM, John H Gibson wrote: Wayne, Instead of using an intial time delay, why not force the K3 to wait for a high-to- low transistion on the key line before it first transmits? 73, John, no8v --- http://www.elecraft.com ___ Elecraft mailing list Post to: Elecraft@mailman.qth.net You must be a subscriber to post to the list. Subscriber Info (Addr. Change, sub, unsub etc.): http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/subscribers.htm Elecraft web page: http://www.elecraft.com
[Elecraft] Re: K3 Key-down on power-up [Solution?]
Don, The K3 could inhibit all methods of transmit that appear to be active during the first 2 seconds of power-on, even the KY and TX commands from a PC. Don't forget that I control both the horizontal and the vertical :) 73, Wayne N6KR On Jun 28, 2008, at 7:07 AM, Don Wilhelm wrote: John, I don't think that would work. The key line is not the only means of keying the K3 - the 'KY' command for instance can be used, or the TUNE button, or DTR or RTS keying. 73, Don W3FPR John H Gibson wrote: Wayne, Instead of using an intial time delay, why not force the K3 to wait for a high-to- low transistion on the key line before it first transmits? 73, John, no8v --- http://www.elecraft.com ___ Elecraft mailing list Post to: Elecraft@mailman.qth.net You must be a subscriber to post to the list. Subscriber Info (Addr. Change, sub, unsub etc.): http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/subscribers.htm Elecraft web page: http://www.elecraft.com
Re: [Elecraft] [K3] CW feature: Swing?
Well, lots of replies, both public and private. By overwhelming preponderance, the opinion of the Elecraft community is... AAAGGG! (retch, heave) Just forget I brought it, please... ;-) Bill W5WVO David Yarnes wrote: In my view, the so called bug swing is anything but nice! Why anyone would try to send anything but correctly formed code characters is beyond me! Dave W7AQK - Original Message - From: Tom Childers, N5GE [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [Elecraft] elecraft@mailman.qth.net Sent: Friday, June 27, 2008 7:10 PM Subject: Re: [Elecraft] [K3] CW feature: Swing? On Fri, 27 Jun 2008 13:34:23 -0600, Bill W5WVO [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I got used to this feature on the TS-2000. You can set dash/dot ratio to a number less than or greater than 3.0 (where 3.0 is the default standard -- i.e., the dash is three times the length of the dot). After experimenting, I set mine to 3.7, which gave the transmitted CW a nice little bug-like swing. At first, I thought this was what the K3's CW weight parameter was for, but I immediately discovered that wasn't the case. Would any of you other CW guys out there use such an adjustment in the K3 if it were implemented? I find that's how I naturally want to send, probably a holdover from my bug days years ago. Bill W5WVO [snip] I would never use it. Tom, N5GE - SWOT 3537 - Grid EM12jq Those who would give up Essential Liberty to purchase a little Temporary Safety deserve neither Liberty nor Safety An excerpt from a letter written in 1755 from the Assembly to the Governor of Pennsylvania. Support the entire Constitution, not just the parts you like. http://www.n5ge.com http://www.eQSL.cc/Member.cfm?N5GE ___ Elecraft mailing list Post to: Elecraft@mailman.qth.net You must be a subscriber to post to the list. Subscriber Info (Addr. Change, sub, unsub etc.): http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/subscribers.htm Elecraft web page: http://www.elecraft.com ___ Elecraft mailing list Post to: Elecraft@mailman.qth.net You must be a subscriber to post to the list. Subscriber Info (Addr. Change, sub, unsub etc.): http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/subscribers.htm Elecraft web page: http://www.elecraft.com ___ Elecraft mailing list Post to: Elecraft@mailman.qth.net You must be a subscriber to post to the list. Subscriber Info (Addr. Change, sub, unsub etc.): http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/subscribers.htm Elecraft web page: http://www.elecraft.com
[Elecraft] XV50 and XV432 Transverters
Friends, Does anyone have any of these transverters for sale? If so please contact me because I am interested. 73. Dave / W6TE 559 323-6095 ___ Elecraft mailing list Post to: Elecraft@mailman.qth.net You must be a subscriber to post to the list. Subscriber Info (Addr. Change, sub, unsub etc.): http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/subscribers.htm Elecraft web page: http://www.elecraft.com
Re: [Elecraft] K3 - Sensitivity drop between Low and Hi power
Seems I've found the problem but I should wait till monday to try to fix it. As suggested by Gary at Elecraft I've checked some components and I found Q9 on the KPA3 board broken. I think Q9 is both responsible of the power instability I've found and the drop in a S point when KPA3 was enabled. I'll let the list know. Max IW0GXY Vic K2VCO wrote: max iw0gxy wrote: Hi all, I connected the XG2 signal generator to my K3 and I've injected 50microV into the antenna. I have the standard S9 but when I rise the power to 13 and up signal drop down to S8. If I turn the knob to 12W or less signal turn back to S9. I've noted this behavior on signals on air but to be sure I've used my signal generator. I do not see any change in received signal levels here when switching between low and high power. -- 73, Vic, K2VCO Fresno CA http://www.qsl.net/k2vco ___ Elecraft mailing list Post to: Elecraft@mailman.qth.net You must be a subscriber to post to the list. Subscriber Info (Addr. Change, sub, unsub etc.): http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/subscribers.htm Elecraft web page: http://www.elecraft.com -- View this message in context: http://www.nabble.com/K3---Sensitivity-drop-between-Low-and-Hi-power-tp18165769p18171938.html Sent from the Elecraft mailing list archive at Nabble.com. ___ Elecraft mailing list Post to: Elecraft@mailman.qth.net You must be a subscriber to post to the list. Subscriber Info (Addr. Change, sub, unsub etc.): http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/subscribers.htm Elecraft web page: http://www.elecraft.com
[Elecraft] K3 operating scripts to help first-time users
Hi all, While working on the next revision of the owner's manual, I've been thinking that it gives a decidedly top-down (deductive) look at the K3's controls and features. But for many people, a bottom-up (inductive) approach leads to quicker results. Imagine if, as a new user of the K3, you could have an expert looking over your shoulder. He could step you through a series of actions to set the radio up for a particular operating scenario, pointing out the rig's powerful features along the way. This is the idea behind operating scripts. I'm imagining one or two-page .html documents that can be either viewed on-line or printed. Each would have a very specific title, something like: K3 Operating Script: CW DXing on 40 m And an introduction, e.g.: This script will step you through a typical weak-signal DXing session with the K3, in this case on 40 m. This band offers several unique challenges (QRN, QRM) and opportunities (like gray-line long-path to Asia or Africa). It's a great vehicle for demonstrating the K3's noise blanking and filtering, as well as diversity receive with the sub receiver (etc.) It might be formatted as a table with two columns. The first would provide unambiguous instructions, and the second could provide expected observations, variations on commands, or helpful tips. Here's an example: - Action - - Notes -- Switch to 40 m by tapping BAND UP/DN Also try: FREQ ENT, '7000', '-' on keypad Tap MODE UP/DN to get to CW mode Hold NORM (hold function of SHIFT/LO Sets overall passband to 400 Hz; wings appear knob) on the DSP graphic to show passband is normalized Etc. Here's where your creativity comes in! Lead the new user through a typical session, dealing with The Dragon, searching for DX, narrowing down the passband using WIDTH, NORM ALT1/2, or presets I/II, notching out big broadcast station carriers you get the idea. I haven't thought it through much beyond that. But it's safe to say that we'd accept accurate (tested) scripts from K3 owners and create a page for them on our web site. If you'd like to try your hand at this, feel free to send an example script to me, and also copy it to Greg (AB7R), ab7r AT cablespeed DOT com. Some scripts I'd like to see: - 6 meter FM and repeaters - Making the most of stereo speakers/phones (AFX, etc.) - Pileup management in SPLIT mode - Exploring the filter passband controls - Filter setup: CONFIG menu vs. K3 Utility - RTTY QSOs without a computer - Setting up and using PC soundcard I/O 73, Wayne, N6KR --- http://www.elecraft.com ___ Elecraft mailing list Post to: Elecraft@mailman.qth.net You must be a subscriber to post to the list. Subscriber Info (Addr. Change, sub, unsub etc.): http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/subscribers.htm Elecraft web page: http://www.elecraft.com
[Elecraft] K3 operating scripts to help first-time users
While working on the next revision of the owner's manual... I wonder if it would be a good idea to include a table with popular microphones and what the settings should be (Elecraft, Kenwood and Heil?). Just because there seem to be a lot of quesitons about this here. Since I'm a CW op this doesn't affect me, but seems like it might help some folks. Phil - AD5X ___ Elecraft mailing list Post to: Elecraft@mailman.qth.net You must be a subscriber to post to the list. Subscriber Info (Addr. Change, sub, unsub etc.): http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/subscribers.htm Elecraft web page: http://www.elecraft.com
[Elecraft] [K3] CW decode not working
I just finished assembling my new K3 s/n 1113. Now playing with it and trying out some features. The firmware is 2.02. I tried CW text decode function, setting it up as shown om P. 31 in the manual. I get no decoded text on the display. Also tried RTTY decode. AFSK A and also no decoded text. What do I do wrong? 73, Matti -- Marteinn SverrissonTF3MA Langitangi 2Internet: tf3ma [at] raunvis [dot] hi [dot] is 270 Mosfellsbær http://www.raunvis.hi.is/~tf3ma Iceland ___ Elecraft mailing list Post to: Elecraft@mailman.qth.net You must be a subscriber to post to the list. Subscriber Info (Addr. Change, sub, unsub etc.): http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/subscribers.htm Elecraft web page: http://www.elecraft.com
RE: [Elecraft] [K3] CW feature: Swing?
You'll find lots of support too, Bill. Just not so vocal here, I guess. A long time ago I suggested a bug mode in the Elecraft keyers. That would provide automatic dits like a bug but manual dashes: as long as the dash paddle was closed the rig would be keyed. I wanted it not so much to alter the timing (although I use the telegraph long dash for a zero which can't be done correctly on a keyer) but I find my bug timing suffers if I use a keyer. I quickly forget how to time CW properly if the keyer does it for me. Actually, that can be achieved on the K2 with some diodes to fool the keyer into thinking a straight key is connected to the input when the dash lever is pressed. But I was looking for a method that didn't involve outboard parts. I enjoy the sound of a straight key, either a hand pump or a bug. I liken a swing to an accent. Sometimes a little swing provides character to the sound that I find delightful to hear. But such a swing is not consistent, any more than a speaker with an accent pronounces a syllable consistently in every word. Just tuning across the bands, I have noticed that the most pleasant sounding (to me) fists usually turn out to be bugs or straight keys. But there are many Hams who have a very difficult time copying CW that isn't machine perfect. For them, any swing or variation in timing seems to be frustrating beyond words. I'm sure there are many who are unhappy with my fist. We Hams are a disparate bunch. Let the good times roll... Ron AC7AC -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Bill W5WVO Sent: Saturday, June 28, 2008 8:19 AM To: [Elecraft] Subject: Re: [Elecraft] [K3] CW feature: Swing? Well, lots of replies, both public and private. By overwhelming preponderance, the opinion of the Elecraft community is... AAAGGG! (retch, heave) Just forget I brought it, please... ;-) Bill W5WVO ___ Elecraft mailing list Post to: Elecraft@mailman.qth.net You must be a subscriber to post to the list. Subscriber Info (Addr. Change, sub, unsub etc.): http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/subscribers.htm Elecraft web page: http://www.elecraft.com
RE: [Elecraft] K3 operating scripts to help first-time users
Instead of placing this info in the owners manual, how about just adding it to FAQ on the web site. Bob Serwy - N9RS -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Phil Debbie Salas Sent: Saturday, June 28, 2008 11:19 AM To: elecraft@mailman.qth.net Subject: [Elecraft] K3 operating scripts to help first-time users While working on the next revision of the owner's manual... I wonder if it would be a good idea to include a table with popular microphones and what the settings should be (Elecraft, Kenwood and Heil?). Just because there seem to be a lot of quesitons about this here. Since I'm a CW op this doesn't affect me, but seems like it might help some folks. Phil - AD5X ___ Elecraft mailing list Post to: Elecraft@mailman.qth.net You must be a subscriber to post to the list. Subscriber Info (Addr. Change, sub, unsub etc.): http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/subscribers.htm Elecraft web page: http://www.elecraft.com ___ Elecraft mailing list Post to: Elecraft@mailman.qth.net You must be a subscriber to post to the list. Subscriber Info (Addr. Change, sub, unsub etc.): http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/subscribers.htm Elecraft web page: http://www.elecraft.com
[Elecraft] K3 operating scripts vs. operating tips
Just in case there's confusion on this point: - Operating tips are short-form, covering the use of a single feature. - Operating scripts would be much longer, step-by-step tutorial guides covering a class of K3 operation or setup in depth. There's room for both. With Operating Scripts, our many advanced K3 users can show beginning users exactly how they operate the K3 -- as if they were sitting with them in front of the rig. 73, Wayne, N6KR --- http://www.elecraft.com ___ Elecraft mailing list Post to: Elecraft@mailman.qth.net You must be a subscriber to post to the list. Subscriber Info (Addr. Change, sub, unsub etc.): http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/subscribers.htm Elecraft web page: http://www.elecraft.com
[Elecraft] Re: [K3] CW decode not working, solved
Sri, I forgot to tap the DISP, button. Now all is working correctly. Very foolish of me... :-( 73, Matti Sri, abt the wasted BW On Sat, Jun 28, 2008 at 04:18:48PM +, tf3ma wrote: I just finished assembling my new K3 s/n 1113. Now playing with it and trying out some features. The firmware is 2.02. I tried CW text decode function, setting it up as shown om P. 31 in the manual. I get no decoded text on the display. Also tried RTTY decode. AFSK A and also no decoded text. What do I do wrong? 73, Matti -- Marteinn SverrissonTF3MA Langitangi 2Internet: tf3ma [at] raunvis [dot] hi [dot] is 270 Mosfellsbær http://www.raunvis.hi.is/~tf3ma Iceland -- Marteinn SverrissonTF3MA Langitangi 2Internet: tf3ma [at] raunvis [dot] hi [dot] is 270 Mosfellsbær http://www.raunvis.hi.is/~tf3ma Iceland ___ Elecraft mailing list Post to: Elecraft@mailman.qth.net You must be a subscriber to post to the list. Subscriber Info (Addr. Change, sub, unsub etc.): http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/subscribers.htm Elecraft web page: http://www.elecraft.com
RE: [Elecraft] K3 operating scripts to help first-time users
Bob Serwy wrote: Instead of placing this info in the owners manual, how about just adding it to FAQ on the web site. Wouldn't the K3 Wiki (http://www.zerobeat.net/mediawiki/index.php/K3_Wiki_at_ZeroBeat.NET) be the best place for stuff like this? The added benefit is users can add and edit their own stuff, so no valuable Elecraft resources are consumed by the process. - Julian, G4ILO K3 s/n: 222 K2 s/n: 392 G4ILO's Shack: www.g4ilo.com KComm for K2/K3: www.g4ilo.com/kcomm.html -- View this message in context: http://www.nabble.com/K3-%22operating-scripts%22-to-help-first-time-users-tp18172375p18172713.html Sent from the Elecraft mailing list archive at Nabble.com. ___ Elecraft mailing list Post to: Elecraft@mailman.qth.net You must be a subscriber to post to the list. Subscriber Info (Addr. Change, sub, unsub etc.): http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/subscribers.htm Elecraft web page: http://www.elecraft.com
Re: [Elecraft] [K3] Turning filters off/on
What about to map FLx yes/no menu to PFx button? You have then very fast access to mapped function. 73! Lexa, ok1dst W7TEA napsal(a): I have the 500 and 200 hz filters installed. Most of the time I prefer using the 500 hz filter even when narrowing the DSP filtering to 200 hz or below. Is there an easy and fast way to engage the 200 hz roofing filter during those rare occasions when it is needed without going into the config menu to turn it on? tnx, Gary W7TEA ___ Elecraft mailing list Post to: Elecraft@mailman.qth.net You must be a subscriber to post to the list. Subscriber Info (Addr. Change, sub, unsub etc.): http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/subscribers.htm Elecraft web page: http://www.elecraft.com
[Elecraft] K3: operating scripts
Almost FD time! I think it is high time to think 21st century. Sure, scripts are a good idea, but even better (in addition to), would be video files. Not only could the narrator talk through the script, but the user can SEE how it's done and HEAR the results. There are so many advantages to including audio-video, I am sure I don't need to expound on them here. I know, I know...lots of users don't have a high speed internet connection. So whatthese are in ADDITION TO the printed scripts (and follow them)and lots of us DO have a high speed connection. You could also make it available on DVD (for purchase) for those who are HS-connection challenged. IMHO, Show and Tell is a a lot better than simply Read and Interpret, the latter having lots of potential for gray. Step up to today's standards and expectations...the K3 did! de Doug KR2Q PS I can easily see these being grouped: Beginner, Intermediate, Advanced ___ Elecraft mailing list Post to: Elecraft@mailman.qth.net You must be a subscriber to post to the list. Subscriber Info (Addr. Change, sub, unsub etc.): http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/subscribers.htm Elecraft web page: http://www.elecraft.com
Re: [Elecraft] [K3] CW feature: Swing?
I'm a fan of GHD bugs (currently using a dual lever GN107WS), and recently noticed that they offer an electronic keyer with what they call E-Bug mode. I wasn't sure what to make of it but the ablility to record even straight key messages seemed interesting. I must confess that I don't mind hearing a wee bit of swing in a signal myself, but do strive to send as correctly as I can. Bob NW8L On Sat, Jun 28, 2008 at 10:20 AM, Ron D'Eau Claire [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: You'll find lots of support too, Bill. Just not so vocal here, I guess. A long time ago I suggested a bug mode in the Elecraft keyers. That would provide automatic dits like a bug but manual dashes: as long as the dash paddle was closed the rig would be keyed. I wanted it not so much to alter the timing (although I use the telegraph long dash for a zero which can't be done correctly on a keyer) but I find my bug timing suffers if I use a keyer. I quickly forget how to time CW properly if the keyer does it for me. ___ Elecraft mailing list Post to: Elecraft@mailman.qth.net You must be a subscriber to post to the list. Subscriber Info (Addr. Change, sub, unsub etc.): http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/subscribers.htm Elecraft web page: http://www.elecraft.com
[Elecraft] K3 operating scripts to help first-time users
The key words here are users can add or edit ... I seldom/never use the Wiki because of this. To put it simply, I have no confidence in what's posted there because of this. Far too many enjoy misleading the gullible just for perverse amusement. Wayne, the scripts idea has -lots- of appeal for me, but -only- on the Elecraft website. 73! Ken Kopp - K0PP [EMAIL PROTECTED] ___ Elecraft mailing list Post to: Elecraft@mailman.qth.net You must be a subscriber to post to the list. Subscriber Info (Addr. Change, sub, unsub etc.): http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/subscribers.htm Elecraft web page: http://www.elecraft.com
[Elecraft] RE: K3 operating scripts to help first-time users
Operating scripts from the bottom up sounds like a good idea. Some of us are simply overwhelmed with the myriad choices available and we benefit from observing how others have applied the features to a specific requirement. I would like to see configuration files which could be downloaded. They could be specific for particular types of operations and act as a jumping off point for further tweaking. Someone with greater experience could offer their configuration file for say 6 meter SSB contesting with notes about which parameters would most likely vary from one operator to another. This could be the quick start type instructions found in most owners manuals currently but with the files available for download and someone's experienced direction towards those areas most likely to require an individual's customization. Jim NS5U/1 ___ Elecraft mailing list Post to: Elecraft@mailman.qth.net You must be a subscriber to post to the list. Subscriber Info (Addr. Change, sub, unsub etc.): http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/subscribers.htm Elecraft web page: http://www.elecraft.com
Re: [Elecraft] [K3] CW feature: Swing?
Ron and All, Ron, you must be from south Louisiana! Hard to get that zydeco (spelling?) rhythm out of your soul! Hi. Laissez les bon temps rouler! Dave W7AQK - Original Message - From: Ron D'Eau Claire [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: '[Elecraft]' elecraft@mailman.qth.net Sent: Saturday, June 28, 2008 9:20 AM Subject: RE: [Elecraft] [K3] CW feature: Swing? You'll find lots of support too, Bill. Just not so vocal here, I guess. A long time ago I suggested a bug mode in the Elecraft keyers. That would provide automatic dits like a bug but manual dashes: as long as the dash paddle was closed the rig would be keyed. I wanted it not so much to alter the timing (although I use the telegraph long dash for a zero which can't be done correctly on a keyer) but I find my bug timing suffers if I use a keyer. I quickly forget how to time CW properly if the keyer does it for me. Actually, that can be achieved on the K2 with some diodes to fool the keyer into thinking a straight key is connected to the input when the dash lever is pressed. But I was looking for a method that didn't involve outboard parts. I enjoy the sound of a straight key, either a hand pump or a bug. I liken a swing to an accent. Sometimes a little swing provides character to the sound that I find delightful to hear. But such a swing is not consistent, any more than a speaker with an accent pronounces a syllable consistently in every word. Just tuning across the bands, I have noticed that the most pleasant sounding (to me) fists usually turn out to be bugs or straight keys. But there are many Hams who have a very difficult time copying CW that isn't machine perfect. For them, any swing or variation in timing seems to be frustrating beyond words. I'm sure there are many who are unhappy with my fist. We Hams are a disparate bunch. Let the good times roll... Ron AC7AC -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Bill W5WVO Sent: Saturday, June 28, 2008 8:19 AM To: [Elecraft] Subject: Re: [Elecraft] [K3] CW feature: Swing? Well, lots of replies, both public and private. By overwhelming preponderance, the opinion of the Elecraft community is... AAAGGG! (retch, heave) Just forget I brought it, please... ;-) Bill W5WVO ___ Elecraft mailing list Post to: Elecraft@mailman.qth.net You must be a subscriber to post to the list. Subscriber Info (Addr. Change, sub, unsub etc.): http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/subscribers.htm Elecraft web page: http://www.elecraft.com ___ Elecraft mailing list Post to: Elecraft@mailman.qth.net You must be a subscriber to post to the list. Subscriber Info (Addr. Change, sub, unsub etc.): http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/subscribers.htm Elecraft web page: http://www.elecraft.com
Re: [Elecraft] K3 operating scripts to help first-time users
Since I am struggling with the current format that sounds great to me 73 Doug N3QW - Original Message - From: wayne burdick [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: Elecraft Reflector elecraft@mailman.qth.net Sent: Saturday, June 28, 2008 11:47 Subject: [Elecraft] K3 operating scripts to help first-time users Hi all, While working on the next revision of the owner's manual, I've been thinking that it gives a decidedly top-down (deductive) look at the K3's controls and features. But for many people, a bottom-up (inductive) approach leads to quicker results. Imagine if, as a new user of the K3, you could have an expert looking over your shoulder. He could step you through a series of actions to set the radio up for a particular operating scenario, pointing out the rig's powerful features along the way. This is the idea behind operating scripts. I'm imagining one or two-page .html documents that can be either viewed on-line or printed. Each would have a very specific title, something like: K3 Operating Script: CW DXing on 40 m And an introduction, e.g.: This script will step you through a typical weak-signal DXing session with the K3, in this case on 40 m. This band offers several unique challenges (QRN, QRM) and opportunities (like gray-line long-path to Asia or Africa). It's a great vehicle for demonstrating the K3's noise blanking and filtering, as well as diversity receive with the sub receiver (etc.) It might be formatted as a table with two columns. The first would provide unambiguous instructions, and the second could provide expected observations, variations on commands, or helpful tips. Here's an example: - Action - - Notes -- Switch to 40 m by tapping BAND UP/DN Also try: FREQ ENT, '7000', '-' on keypad Tap MODE UP/DN to get to CW mode Hold NORM (hold function of SHIFT/LO Sets overall passband to 400 Hz; wings appear knob) on the DSP graphic to show passband is normalized Etc. Here's where your creativity comes in! Lead the new user through a typical session, dealing with The Dragon, searching for DX, narrowing down the passband using WIDTH, NORM ALT1/2, or presets I/II, notching out big broadcast station carriers you get the idea. I haven't thought it through much beyond that. But it's safe to say that we'd accept accurate (tested) scripts from K3 owners and create a page for them on our web site. If you'd like to try your hand at this, feel free to send an example script to me, and also copy it to Greg (AB7R), ab7r AT cablespeed DOT com. Some scripts I'd like to see: - 6 meter FM and repeaters - Making the most of stereo speakers/phones (AFX, etc.) - Pileup management in SPLIT mode - Exploring the filter passband controls - Filter setup: CONFIG menu vs. K3 Utility - RTTY QSOs without a computer - Setting up and using PC soundcard I/O 73, Wayne, N6KR --- http://www.elecraft.com ___ Elecraft mailing list Post to: Elecraft@mailman.qth.net You must be a subscriber to post to the list. Subscriber Info (Addr. Change, sub, unsub etc.): http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/subscribers.htm Elecraft web page: http://www.elecraft.com ___ Elecraft mailing list Post to: Elecraft@mailman.qth.net You must be a subscriber to post to the list. Subscriber Info (Addr. Change, sub, unsub etc.): http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/subscribers.htm Elecraft web page: http://www.elecraft.com
[Elecraft] K3-Very low sensitivity and tx gain calibration failure
Got some very good hints but the sensitivity on all bands is still far too low and I still can´t calibrate the tx gain.(low power) Maybe there is a problem with the ATU, because when I hit the Ant button the K3 says NO ATU (ATU set to AUTO)and I can´t change the antenna terminal... 73 Chris-OE5CSP -- View this message in context: http://www.nabble.com/K3-Very-low-sensitivity-and-tx-gain-calibration-failure-tp18173748p18173748.html Sent from the Elecraft mailing list archive at Nabble.com. ___ Elecraft mailing list Post to: Elecraft@mailman.qth.net You must be a subscriber to post to the list. Subscriber Info (Addr. Change, sub, unsub etc.): http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/subscribers.htm Elecraft web page: http://www.elecraft.com
[Elecraft] K2/K3 Protective Thick Side Panels
Someone was selling some nice 1/4 inch thick aluminum side panels for the K2 several years ago, that when mounted provided handles for carrying the K2 and protecting the front and rear panels. I got a set for one of my K2's and am wondering if they are, or will be, available for the K3. I have not seen them mentioned in quite a while on the reflector. Does anyone know who made them? 73, Henry - K4TMC K2/100 #3137 K3/100 #98 ___ Elecraft mailing list Post to: Elecraft@mailman.qth.net You must be a subscriber to post to the list. Subscriber Info (Addr. Change, sub, unsub etc.): http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/subscribers.htm Elecraft web page: http://www.elecraft.com
[Elecraft] FS: K2/100 #5310 and KAT100 for sale
Hello, Special sale of K2-5310 with KPA100 plus the KAT100 and more. Full list is at http://wilcoxengineering.com/sale/k2-5310.pdf My client LU5OM in Argentina sent it to me for service and tuneup. It's completely tuned ready to go, but Argentina won't let used radios back into the country, even if it's already his own rig. He made the decision to sell it, and asked me to handle the transaction: Selling for $1350 US, shipping within ConUS included. Contact me directly, off list. Alan Alan D. Wilcox, W3DVX 570-321-1516 http://WilcoxEngineering.com Williamsport, PA 17701 ___ Elecraft mailing list Post to: Elecraft@mailman.qth.net You must be a subscriber to post to the list. Subscriber Info (Addr. Change, sub, unsub etc.): http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/subscribers.htm Elecraft web page: http://www.elecraft.com
RE: [Elecraft] Re: K3 Key-down on power-up [Solution?]
Wayne, It is a good idea ... particularly if you get closures on any of the inputs that would force transmit when first powering up. In particular, you would want to look for PTT on mic, PTT/RCA, PTT/ACC, or RTS) and CW inputs on DTR, key, left paddle or right paddle. Yaesu does a similar thing in most of their recent radios. If the PTT or Key is active at power up, the radio will not transmit until the PTT/Key has first opened (reset). The only thing is that they do not display an error message ... 73, ... Joe, W4TV -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of wayne burdick Sent: Saturday, June 28, 2008 11:05 AM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Cc: Elecraft Reflector Subject: [Elecraft] Re: K3 Key-down on power-up [Solution?] This is another way of describing what I'm proposing, John. If /KEY is found asserted anytime during the 2-second power-on sequence, the K3 might show ERR KEY and prevent TX until the line as been released. If re-asserted anytime after that, the message would go away by itself, and TX would proceed normally. I can catch premature /PTT assertion, too. So there would also be an ERR PTT message. Same logic. Sound OK? 73, Wayne N6KR On Jun 28, 2008, at 6:58 AM, John H Gibson wrote: Wayne, Instead of using an intial time delay, why not force the K3 to wait for a high-to- low transistion on the key line before it first transmits? 73, John, no8v --- http://www.elecraft.com ___ Elecraft mailing list Post to: Elecraft@mailman.qth.net You must be a subscriber to post to the list. Subscriber Info (Addr. Change, sub, unsub etc.): http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/subscribers.htm Elecraft web page: http://www.elecraft.com ___ Elecraft mailing list Post to: Elecraft@mailman.qth.net You must be a subscriber to post to the list. Subscriber Info (Addr. Change, sub, unsub etc.): http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/subscribers.htm Elecraft web page: http://www.elecraft.com
RE: [Elecraft] Re: [K3] Transmit AM through FM Filter?
Since the AM transmit function is implemented in DSP, it should be clean and band limited anyway. I don't see why it would not be possible to enable the 13 KHz filter for AM transmit. As far as image rejection goes ... even if the FM filter has a shape factor of 2 (and it should be 1.5 or so) the image response would be down more than 60 dB unless there is a lot of circuit leakage (filter blow-by). 73, ... Joe, W4TV -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Dan Atchison Sent: Saturday, June 28, 2008 7:51 AM To: elecraft@mailman.qth.net Subject: [Elecraft] Re: [K3] Transmit AM through FM Filter? Thanks for all the answers. To set the story straight, the reasoning behind the question was not to determine if I could transmit hi-fi AM, it's simply a matter of cost. At $125 a clip for an AM filter and the fact that I may only transmit AM once or twice in a lifetime, I couldn't see the extra cost to add the AM filter if TX through the FM filter worked. Since others have already identified that a filter can be fooled into thinking it's a different bandwidth, I do have a plan that I'll try somewhere down the road. Looking at the schematics it appears to be an easy solution that I can use an empty filter spot and diode switch (add two diodes) that position into an FM filter consumed location. That empty spot would be designated as the AM filter spot. Yeah, I know, it's only $125, but I'm a cheapskate. 73, Dan -- N3ND ___ Elecraft mailing list Post to: Elecraft@mailman.qth.net You must be a subscriber to post to the list. Subscriber Info (Addr. Change, sub, unsub etc.): http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/subscribers.htm Elecraft web page: http://www.elecraft.com ___ Elecraft mailing list Post to: Elecraft@mailman.qth.net You must be a subscriber to post to the list. Subscriber Info (Addr. Change, sub, unsub etc.): http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/subscribers.htm Elecraft web page: http://www.elecraft.com
RE: [Elecraft] [K3] CW feature: Swing?
The K1EL WinKey keyers (and I presume the K-series stand alone keyers) offer Vibroplex mode that make automatic dits and manual dahs. 73, ... Joe, W4TV -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Bob Cunnings Sent: Saturday, June 28, 2008 1:28 PM To: [Elecraft] Subject: Re: [Elecraft] [K3] CW feature: Swing? I'm a fan of GHD bugs (currently using a dual lever GN107WS), and recently noticed that they offer an electronic keyer with what they call E-Bug mode. I wasn't sure what to make of it but the ablility to record even straight key messages seemed interesting. I must confess that I don't mind hearing a wee bit of swing in a signal myself, but do strive to send as correctly as I can. Bob NW8L On Sat, Jun 28, 2008 at 10:20 AM, Ron D'Eau Claire [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: You'll find lots of support too, Bill. Just not so vocal here, I guess. A long time ago I suggested a bug mode in the Elecraft keyers. That would provide automatic dits like a bug but manual dashes: as long as the dash paddle was closed the rig would be keyed. I wanted it not so much to alter the timing (although I use the telegraph long dash for a zero which can't be done correctly on a keyer) but I find my bug timing suffers if I use a keyer. I quickly forget how to time CW properly if the keyer does it for me. ___ Elecraft mailing list Post to: Elecraft@mailman.qth.net You must be a subscriber to post to the list. Subscriber Info (Addr. Change, sub, unsub etc.): http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/subscribers.htm Elecraft web page: http://www.elecraft.com
RE: [Elecraft] K3 operating scripts vs. operating tips
Maybe I'm speaking a Ham heresy, but I'd love to see the ability to disconnect all the interconnected functions on the K3. I'd love to see the K3 controls do ONE thing. That is, when I select MODE:CW, I'd like the radio to be in CW mode and not change if I switch VFOs or bands. If I select ANT1, the radio should remain on ANT1 no matter which band I choose, etc. I realize that the complex interconnected functions that have been evolved are invaluable to serious DX chasers and contesters. And to learn them, the scripts and tips sound like a great idea. But for myself, I'd rather not have the radio second-guess me using some complex logic that I'm obligated to learn in order to operate it ;-) Ron AC7AC -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of wayne burdick Sent: Saturday, June 28, 2008 9:28 AM To: Elecraft Reflector Subject: [Elecraft] K3 operating scripts vs. operating tips Just in case there's confusion on this point: - Operating tips are short-form, covering the use of a single feature. - Operating scripts would be much longer, step-by-step tutorial guides covering a class of K3 operation or setup in depth. There's room for both. With Operating Scripts, our many advanced K3 users can show beginning users exactly how they operate the K3 -- as if they were sitting with them in front of the rig. 73, Wayne, N6KR ___ Elecraft mailing list Post to: Elecraft@mailman.qth.net You must be a subscriber to post to the list. Subscriber Info (Addr. Change, sub, unsub etc.): http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/subscribers.htm Elecraft web page: http://www.elecraft.com
Re: [Elecraft] K3 operating scripts to help first-time users
Ken Kopp-3 wrote: The key words here are users can add or edit ... I seldom/never use the Wiki because of this. To put it simply, I have no confidence in what's posted there because of this. Far too many enjoy misleading the gullible just for perverse amusement. Wayne, the scripts idea has -lots- of appeal for me, but -only- on the Elecraft website. I think that's a bit of a slap in the face to those who have freely spent a lot of their time creating and editing the material in the Wiki for the benefit of other Elecraft users. Wikis are widely used as *the* documentation source for many open source projects. Editors and peer reviewers ensure that any incorrect information doesn't stay very long. If it works for software I don't see why it can't work for Elecraft radios. Presumably you seldom or never believe anything written on personal websites either, since there is even less control or expert review of the content than there is in a Wiki. (I've seen some complete nonsense written about propagation, to name just one example.) - Julian, G4ILO K3 s/n: 222 K2 s/n: 392 G4ILO's Shack: www.g4ilo.com KComm for K2/K3: www.g4ilo.com/kcomm.html -- View this message in context: http://www.nabble.com/K3-%22operating-scripts%22-to-help-first-time-users-tp18172375p18174952.html Sent from the Elecraft mailing list archive at Nabble.com. ___ Elecraft mailing list Post to: Elecraft@mailman.qth.net You must be a subscriber to post to the list. Subscriber Info (Addr. Change, sub, unsub etc.): http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/subscribers.htm Elecraft web page: http://www.elecraft.com
RE: [Elecraft] K3 operating scripts vs. operating tips
Ron D'Eau Claire wrote: Maybe I'm speaking a Ham heresy, but I'd love to see the ability to disconnect all the interconnected functions on the K3. I'd love to see the K3 controls do ONE thing. That is, when I select MODE:CW, I'd like the radio to be in CW mode and not change if I switch VFOs or bands. If I select ANT1, the radio should remain on ANT1 no matter which band I choose, etc. But for myself, I'd rather not have the radio second-guess me using some complex logic that I'm obligated to learn in order to operate it ;-) I'd go along with that to a great extent, though since my antenna on ANT 2 is only of use on the bands ANT 1 is no use at all on, and vice versa, it makes perfect sense to me for the ANT selection to be linked to the band. The trouble with second guessing is that the guesses may be right some of the time (or for some people) and wrong for others. The issue doesn't arise if a control performs just one function. - Julian, G4ILO K3 s/n: 222 K2 s/n: 392 G4ILO's Shack: www.g4ilo.com KComm for K2/K3: www.g4ilo.com/kcomm.html -- View this message in context: http://www.nabble.com/K3-%22operating-scripts%22-vs.-%22operating-tips%22-tp18172430p18175013.html Sent from the Elecraft mailing list archive at Nabble.com. ___ Elecraft mailing list Post to: Elecraft@mailman.qth.net You must be a subscriber to post to the list. Subscriber Info (Addr. Change, sub, unsub etc.): http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/subscribers.htm Elecraft web page: http://www.elecraft.com
Re: [Elecraft] FS: K2/100 #5310 and KAT100 for sale
SOLD Thanks for all your interest! Alan = Alan D. Wilcox wrote: Hello, Special sale of K2-5310 with KPA100 plus the KAT100 and more. Full list is at http://wilcoxengineering.com/sale/k2-5310.pdf My client LU5OM in Argentina sent it to me for service and tuneup. It's completely tuned ready to go, but Argentina won't let used radios back into the country, even if it's already his own rig. He made the decision to sell it, and asked me to handle the transaction: Selling for $1350 US, shipping within ConUS included. Contact me directly, off list. Alan Alan D. Wilcox, W3DVX 570-321-1516 http://WilcoxEngineering.com Williamsport, PA 17701 ___ Elecraft mailing list Post to: Elecraft@mailman.qth.net You must be a subscriber to post to the list. Subscriber Info (Addr. Change, sub, unsub etc.): http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/subscribers.htm Elecraft web page: http://www.elecraft.com ___ Elecraft mailing list Post to: Elecraft@mailman.qth.net You must be a subscriber to post to the list. Subscriber Info (Addr. Change, sub, unsub etc.): http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/subscribers.htm Elecraft web page: http://www.elecraft.com
[Elecraft] K2/K3 Protective Thick Side Panels
http://www.saylorsmachine.com/k1armor.htm ___ Elecraft mailing list Post to: Elecraft@mailman.qth.net You must be a subscriber to post to the list. Subscriber Info (Addr. Change, sub, unsub etc.): http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/subscribers.htm Elecraft web page: http://www.elecraft.com
[Elecraft] K3: Firmware 2.10 NR audio gain
I just upgraded from 2.02 to 2.10 beta. Before, NR gain equalzation (between on and off) was such that when I turned on NR, I had to increase the AF GAIN to compensate for audio drop. Now, the gain equalization has been shifted the other way. When I turn NR on, the gain goes UP. NR is working nicely, but I have to turn the gain DOWN unless the signal is weak. I think they overcompensated with this new firmware. I would rather they set the equalization in between the previous version and this one. That way switching in NR will be a one-tap operation under all conditions. It think the audio quality of NR is better now (less reverberation and distortion) but that is a different subject. Windy KM5Q K3 #176 Santa Fe, NM ___ Elecraft mailing list Post to: Elecraft@mailman.qth.net You must be a subscriber to post to the list. Subscriber Info (Addr. Change, sub, unsub etc.): http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/subscribers.htm Elecraft web page: http://www.elecraft.com
Re: [Elecraft] K3: Firmware 2.10 NR audio gain
Now, the gain equalization has been shifted the other way. When I turn NR on, the gain goes UP. NR is working nicely, but I have to turn the gain DOWN unless the signal is weak. The NR gain compensation required will vary with the S/N of the signal as well as its strength, and with the second value in the NR setting (-1 through -4). Any setting is a compromise :-) 73, Lyle KK7P ___ Elecraft mailing list Post to: Elecraft@mailman.qth.net You must be a subscriber to post to the list. Subscriber Info (Addr. Change, sub, unsub etc.): http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/subscribers.htm Elecraft web page: http://www.elecraft.com
Re: [Elecraft] 2.10B narrow filter anomaly
You may be on to something. Using the 100 Hz FIR filter and injecting a steady carrier, I looked at the receiver output using Spectrum Lab. I observed multiple spurious tones, 2 of which are only 15 dB down from the desired signal. The freq spread between the desired signal and the 1st spur is 2x the difference between the signal and filter center, so you have zero beat at filter center. And so on. Take a look at it with an audio spectrum analyzer, it's interesting. Zero beat with the other -15 dB spur is at the upper filter skirt. Aliasing? The result is the same for the 50 Hz filter, but the 50 and 100 Hz IIR filters are squeaky clean under the same conditions. Subjectively speaking, when listening to on air signals, the signal starts to sound bad to my ears as you tune it close to the upper filter edge zero beat point, but within 20 Hz of filter center the effect seems subtle, and easily overlooked. However, viewed on the spec an, it's clear that something isn't quite right. I observe no such problem with ver 1.78 FIR filters under the same conditions. Maybe someone else can take a look at this. Bob NW8L On Sat, Jun 28, 2008 at 8:28 AM, Gill W4RYW [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I have been using ver 1.78 that shipped with rig and been quite pleased. Figured I should update.When tuned to a steady tone (CW too!) I now get a beat note effect on the width setting 100hz and 50hz only. I have a 250hz filter. Turn on IIR fixes problem. Only hear on FIR DSP. Sounds like two identical freq tones beating - tuning the sig to a precise freq causes effect to disappear. This is annoying to listen to. SN#707 Gill W4RYW -- View this message in context: http://www.nabble.com/2.10B-narrow-filter-anomaly-tp18171265p18171265.html Sent from the Elecraft mailing list archive at Nabble.com. ___ Elecraft mailing list Post to: Elecraft@mailman.qth.net You must be a subscriber to post to the list. Subscriber Info (Addr. Change, sub, unsub etc.): http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/subscribers.htm Elecraft web page: http://www.elecraft.com ___ Elecraft mailing list Post to: Elecraft@mailman.qth.net You must be a subscriber to post to the list. Subscriber Info (Addr. Change, sub, unsub etc.): http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/subscribers.htm Elecraft web page: http://www.elecraft.com
Re: [Elecraft] Re: K3 Key-down on power-up [Solution?]
I think that it is a great idea. The line has to go non-active first before it is allowed to key the radio. At 6/28/2008 01:16 AM, Brett Howard wrote: Sounds like a smart addition to me. Protects people from transmitting into something horrible on accident. Always puts a smile on your face when software protects you from doing something stupid on accident. On Fri, 2008-06-27 at 19:51 -0700, wayne burdick wrote: Dave, I wanted to run a possible solution past you. I could prevent the rig from being keyed (by any method) during the first couple of seconds that it's powered up. Instead, it could detect this case, and display a repeating message (something like: KEYLINE IS ACTIVE) until you either remove the source of the keying or turn power off. Thoughts on this? 73, Wayne N6KR Dave Hachadorian, K6LL wrote: I've got my K3 set up for cw on Field Day with a laptop usb port driving a usb to serial converter. Rig control and cw keying are done over the serial cable, using the K3's built-in ability to send cw from pin 4(?) of the rs-232 cable. Everything works fine, but I got quite a scare when I turned on the K3 and it came up keyed-down 120 watts into no antenna. It seems that if the laptop is not running the logging program, rs-232 pin 4 can very well be in a key-down state. --- http://www.elecraft.com ___ Elecraft mailing list Post to: Elecraft@mailman.qth.net You must be a subscriber to post to the list. Subscriber Info (Addr. Change, sub, unsub etc.): http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/subscribers.htm Elecraft web page: http://www.elecraft.com ___ Elecraft mailing list Post to: Elecraft@mailman.qth.net You must be a subscriber to post to the list. Subscriber Info (Addr. Change, sub, unsub etc.): http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/subscribers.htm Elecraft web page: http://www.elecraft.com ___ Elecraft mailing list Post to: Elecraft@mailman.qth.net You must be a subscriber to post to the list. Subscriber Info (Addr. Change, sub, unsub etc.): http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/subscribers.htm Elecraft web page: http://www.elecraft.com
[Elecraft] K3 and Heil BM10 earphones
Anybody using these? They seem to have lower volume relative to other earphones. Takes considerably more than half volume settings to produce marginal earphone output. Above this setting signals get distorted. Speaker output is really good. Makes no difference if they are plugged in front or back. Beginning to think these new earphones are defective in some way. About 10 years ago I had the same BM-10 earphones. They worked like any others. This K3/10 was just finished a day ago. Brian/K3KO -- View this message in context: http://www.nabble.com/K3-and-Heil-BM10-earphones-tp18176228p18176228.html Sent from the Elecraft mailing list archive at Nabble.com. ___ Elecraft mailing list Post to: Elecraft@mailman.qth.net You must be a subscriber to post to the list. Subscriber Info (Addr. Change, sub, unsub etc.): http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/subscribers.htm Elecraft web page: http://www.elecraft.com
Re: [Elecraft] 2.10B narrow filter anomaly
Bob, Thanks for the confirmation. I have spectrum lab - will take a look after FD. I also think the level drops several db (to the ear) as the filter switches from 150hz to 100hz, most noticable on weaker sigs. 73's Gill You may be on to something. Using the 100 Hz FIR filter and injecting a steady carrier, I looked at the receiver output using Spectrum Lab. I observed multiple spurious tones, 2 of which are only 15 dB down from the desired signal. The freq spread between the desired signal and the 1st spur is 2x the difference between the signal and filter center, so you have zero beat at filter center. And so on. Take a look at it with an audio spectrum analyzer, it's interesting. Zero beat with the other -15 dB spur is at the upper filter skirt. Aliasing? The result is the same for the 50 Hz filter, but the 50 and 100 Hz IIR filters are squeaky clean under the same conditions. Subjectively speaking, when listening to on air signals, the signal starts to sound bad to my ears as you tune it close to the upper filter edge zero beat point, but within 20 Hz of filter center the effect seems subtle, and easily overlooked. However, viewed on the spec an, it's clear that something isn't quite right. I observe no such problem with ver 1.78 FIR filters under the same conditions. Maybe someone else can take a look at this. Bob NW8L -- View this message in context: http://www.nabble.com/2.10B-narrow-filter-anomaly-tp18171265p18176510.html Sent from the Elecraft mailing list archive at Nabble.com. ___ Elecraft mailing list Post to: Elecraft@mailman.qth.net You must be a subscriber to post to the list. Subscriber Info (Addr. Change, sub, unsub etc.): http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/subscribers.htm Elecraft web page: http://www.elecraft.com
[Elecraft] XV-50 or Sale or Trade
I now have a K3 so I no longer need my XV-50. I will trade it for an XV-144 or sell for $310 shipped anywhere in CONUS. Pat Taylor W3HVG K3 834 K2 503 KX1 443 ___ Elecraft mailing list Post to: Elecraft@mailman.qth.net You must be a subscriber to post to the list. Subscriber Info (Addr. Change, sub, unsub etc.): http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/subscribers.htm Elecraft web page: http://www.elecraft.com
[Elecraft] No power out all of the sudden... :(
Ok so we're out at field day and all of the sudden I heard a somewhat strong signal and then all the receive has gone to low S Meter numbers yet the radio is not deaf at all. Whats worse is that I am getting no RF out. Pressing tune the radio draws about 2.3A and displays -- for the SWR. When tuning I get -- for the SWR as well. In tune mode the power out at the bottom shows 0W. When hitting tune it says 5.0W at the bottom and shows 5W on the bar graph but it ends up doing a full search to try and find a match and never finds anything cause there is no SWR shown. I've done a full parameter reset and have reloaded my parameters from before field day. No such luck. Any help would be GREATLY appreciated! ___ Elecraft mailing list Post to: Elecraft@mailman.qth.net You must be a subscriber to post to the list. Subscriber Info (Addr. Change, sub, unsub etc.): http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/subscribers.htm Elecraft web page: http://www.elecraft.com
RE: [Elecraft] No power out all of the sudden... :(
Just opened the radio and sniffed around and looked at components on ATU board. All appears fine. Many field day goers have been quite impressed with the innards of the K3 and its capabilities. Have probably sold 2 or 3 K3's today, even with the failures. On Sat, 2008-06-28 at 20:49 -0700, Brett Howard wrote: Hadn't tried PA bypass yet but just did and it seems to be not working. When I hit tune with the rig set to 100mW I get a bit of power out but a radio next to me only sees me as 20 over cranking the power up to 12 watts in PA Byp and ATU Byp only puts his radio at 40 over and that should be able to get higher than that at this range. The K3 still claims 0W out. On Sat, 2008-06-28 at 23:24 -0400, Gary Hvizdak wrote: Hi Brett, Have you tried bypassing the KPA3 by setting the KPA3 menu entry to PA BYP? After that the next thing to try might be to bypass the KAT3. 73, Gary KI4GGX -Original Message- From: Brett Howard [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Saturday 28 June 2008 2317 To: Gary Hvizdak Cc: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: RE: [Elecraft] No power out all of the sudden... :( 100W PA Transverter interface ATU 2.7K filter 1.8K filter 250Hz filter Although I should mention that I just did a full reset of all settings and reloaded the 2.02 firmware and right now I've done only the filter setup and have all filters turned on in all modes and have all modes (that I'm worried about) transmitting through FL2 (the 2.7K). I've not enabled any of the modules that I have in the radio and am still seeing this issue. On Sat, 2008-06-28 at 23:11 -0400, Gary Hvizdak wrote: Brett, First question is . what options do you have installed in your K3? 73, Gary KI4GGX __ Brett Howard brett at livecomputers.com Sat Jun 28 22:36:50 EDT 2008 __ Ok so we're out at field day and all of the sudden I heard a somewhat strong signal and then all the receive has gone to low S Meter numbers yet the radio is not deaf at all. What's worse is that I am getting no RF out. Pressing tune the radio draws about 2.3A and displays -- for the SWR. When tuning I get -- for the SWR as well. In tune mode the power out at the bottom shows 0W. When hitting tune it says 5.0W at the bottom and shows 5W on the bar graph but it ends up doing a full search to try and find a match and never finds anything cause there is no SWR shown. I've done a full parameter reset and have reloaded my parameters from before field day. No such luck. Any help would be GREATLY appreciated! ___ Elecraft mailing list Post to: Elecraft@mailman.qth.net You must be a subscriber to post to the list. Subscriber Info (Addr. Change, sub, unsub etc.): http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/subscribers.htm Elecraft web page: http://www.elecraft.com
Re: [Elecraft] K3: operating scripts
Brilliant idea. Some K3 owners will have fairly obscure or complex requirements and a short video in mpeg would make it look easy and that would attract more to that feature. David G3UNA From: DOUGLAS ZWIEBEL [EMAIL PROTECTED] Date: 2008/06/28 Sat PM 06:27:34 BST To: Elecraft Reflector elecraft@mailman.qth.net Subject: [Elecraft] K3: operating scripts Almost FD time! I think it is high time to think 21st century. Sure, scripts are a good idea, but even better (in addition to), would be video files. Not only could the narrator talk through the script, but the user can SEE how it's done and HEAR the results. There are so many advantages to including audio-video, I am sure I don't need to expound on them here. I know, I know...lots of users don't have a high speed internet connection. So whatthese are in ADDITION TO the printed scripts (and follow them)and lots of us DO have a high speed connection. You could also make it available on DVD (for purchase) for those who are HS-connection challenged. IMHO, Show and Tell is a a lot better than simply Read and Interpret, the latter having lots of potential for gray. Step up to today's standards and expectations...the K3 did! de Doug KR2Q PS I can easily see these being grouped: Beginner, Intermediate, Advanced ___ Elecraft mailing list Post to: Elecraft@mailman.qth.net You must be a subscriber to post to the list. Subscriber Info (Addr. Change, sub, unsub etc.): http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/subscribers.htm Elecraft web page: http://www.elecraft.com - Email sent from www.virginmedia.com/email Virus-checked using McAfee(R) Software and scanned for spam ___ Elecraft mailing list Post to: Elecraft@mailman.qth.net You must be a subscriber to post to the list. Subscriber Info (Addr. Change, sub, unsub etc.): http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/subscribers.htm Elecraft web page: http://www.elecraft.com
Re: [Elecraft] Re: K3 Key-down on power-up [Solution?]
I thought of another feature to help fix the stupid user issue. How about a lock that doesn't allow a band change. Such as a special way to use the lock button that doesn't lock one out from QSYing but doesn't allow them to move off of say 40 meters. We had a death to a band pass filter cause some one turned their equipment over to a new ham on another one of the stations and a feature that locks from going to another band could have prevented that. Also would be useful for when you don't have the tuner nor an external and your antenna is only good on one band. On Fri, 2008-06-27 at 19:51 -0700, wayne burdick wrote: Dave, I wanted to run a possible solution past you. I could prevent the rig from being keyed (by any method) during the first couple of seconds that it's powered up. Instead, it could detect this case, and display a repeating message (something like: KEYLINE IS ACTIVE) until you either remove the source of the keying or turn power off. Thoughts on this? 73, Wayne N6KR Dave Hachadorian, K6LL wrote: I've got my K3 set up for cw on Field Day with a laptop usb port driving a usb to serial converter. Rig control and cw keying are done over the serial cable, using the K3's built-in ability to send cw from pin 4(?) of the rs-232 cable. Everything works fine, but I got quite a scare when I turned on the K3 and it came up keyed-down 120 watts into no antenna. It seems that if the laptop is not running the logging program, rs-232 pin 4 can very well be in a key-down state. --- http://www.elecraft.com ___ Elecraft mailing list Post to: Elecraft@mailman.qth.net You must be a subscriber to post to the list. Subscriber Info (Addr. Change, sub, unsub etc.): http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/subscribers.htm Elecraft web page: http://www.elecraft.com ___ Elecraft mailing list Post to: Elecraft@mailman.qth.net You must be a subscriber to post to the list. Subscriber Info (Addr. Change, sub, unsub etc.): http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/subscribers.htm Elecraft web page: http://www.elecraft.com
[Elecraft] Temp Readings
I've been trying to determine what the FP and the PA temps are during FD and the book says that you should be able to tap DISP and then use VFO B to see PA xxC in the alternate display. This does not happen. Was this changed in a update? I bet I am doing something wrong. Lee K0WA In our day and age it seems that Common Sense is in short supply. If you don't have any Common Sense - get some Common Sense and use it. If you can't find any Common Sense, ask for help from somebody who has some Common Sense. Is Common Sense divine? ___ Elecraft mailing list Post to: Elecraft@mailman.qth.net You must be a subscriber to post to the list. Subscriber Info (Addr. Change, sub, unsub etc.): http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/subscribers.htm Elecraft web page: http://www.elecraft.com
Re: [Elecraft] Temp Readings
Go into the config menu and set TECH MD to on then repeat the steps you mentioned below. On Sat, 2008-06-28 at 22:37 -0700, Lee Buller wrote: I've been trying to determine what the FP and the PA temps are during FD and the book says that you should be able to tap DISP and then use VFO B to see PA xxC in the alternate display. This does not happen. Was this changed in a update? I bet I am doing something wrong. Lee K0WA In our day and age it seems that Common Sense is in short supply. If you don't have any Common Sense - get some Common Sense and use it. If you can't find any Common Sense, ask for help from somebody who has some Common Sense. Is Common Sense divine? ___ Elecraft mailing list Post to: Elecraft@mailman.qth.net You must be a subscriber to post to the list. Subscriber Info (Addr. Change, sub, unsub etc.): http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/subscribers.htm Elecraft web page: http://www.elecraft.com ___ Elecraft mailing list Post to: Elecraft@mailman.qth.net You must be a subscriber to post to the list. Subscriber Info (Addr. Change, sub, unsub etc.): http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/subscribers.htm Elecraft web page: http://www.elecraft.com
Re: [Elecraft] Temp Readings
CONFIG:TECH MD must be ON to see temperatures - despite what pg. 34 of the manual seems to imply under VFO B Alternate Displays. Bob NW8L On Sat, Jun 28, 2008 at 11:37 PM, Lee Buller [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I've been trying to determine what the FP and the PA temps are during FD and the book says that you should be able to tap DISP and then use VFO B to see PA xxC in the alternate display. This does not happen. Was this changed in a update? I bet I am doing something wrong. Lee K0WA In our day and age it seems that Common Sense is in short supply. If you don't have any Common Sense - get some Common Sense and use it. If you can't find any Common Sense, ask for help from somebody who has some Common Sense. Is Common Sense divine? ___ Elecraft mailing list Post to: Elecraft@mailman.qth.net You must be a subscriber to post to the list. Subscriber Info (Addr. Change, sub, unsub etc.): http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/subscribers.htm Elecraft web page: http://www.elecraft.com ___ Elecraft mailing list Post to: Elecraft@mailman.qth.net You must be a subscriber to post to the list. Subscriber Info (Addr. Change, sub, unsub etc.): http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/subscribers.htm Elecraft web page: http://www.elecraft.com
