Re: [Elecraft] Property with 3.11 an error
Hallo, dg...@gmx.de wrote: Property only times 2,78 functions changed there everything. The following error does not have I with me if I 3,11 has cannot I on the 12m volume any more send it comes error message ERR PL1 Bitte nochmals auf Deutsch posten. Ich werde dein E-Mail dann übersetzen, damit es auf Englisch verständlich ist. Please post again in German. I'll translate it... Danke es vy 73 de toby -- DD5FZ __ Elecraft mailing list Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm Post: mailto:Elecraft@mailman.qth.net This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html
Re: [Elecraft] oh no, another crazy audio idea from Holland
Hi Leigh, Doesn't the K3's roofing do the job in PSK? I would think that,with the smallest roofing filter, the AGC would track very narrowband signals perfectly.. My thought is that especially in wider modes,where you have a mix of wanted/non-wanted signals, to let the AGC focus on the wanted signal and prevent it from overreacting to unwanted signals by pre-EQ ing the the AGC detector. I aware though that dynamics processing in audio is an artform as such. Frequency-dependent (or multiband) dynamics processing multiplies all variables so is an even higher art :-) But it is capable of very well controlled results with a minimum of artifacts! 73' Paul PD0PSB -- View this message in context: http://n2.nabble.com/oh-no%2C-another-crazy-audio-idea-from-Holland-tp2727619p2731933.html Sent from the Elecraft mailing list archive at Nabble.com. __ Elecraft mailing list Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm Post: mailto:Elecraft@mailman.qth.net This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html
Re: [Elecraft] K3 NB/NR Noise Blanker/ Noise reduction
Yes you're right Steve! After reading your comments below, I have now set my AGC THR high and SLP low, this REALLY does improve the NR function on both CW and SSB. (previously I had my AGC settings more or less at default values) Maybe others may wish to try this. Thanks. 73, Deni F5VJC Steve Ellington wrote: This is amazingWe have some who complain about NR increasing the audio and some complaining about it reducing audio! I think the K3's NR is the best I've seen thus far. Contrary to some experts opinion, it works great with narrow cw filters and not only reduces noise but Peaks the CW signals. Someone said it makes CW mushy. I say it does just exactly the opposite. It sharpens the AF response and enhances CW, especially weak signals that are down at the noise floor. Have had a lot of rigs, the IC-7800's NR is pretty good too. The PRO series NR is terrible. Keep in mind I'm talking about CW here. Keep that AGC threshold up high and the SLP lowIt makes the NR really bring up those CW signals nice and LOUD like they should be. N4LQ Steve Ellington n...@carolina.rr.com __ Elecraft mailing list Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm Post: mailto:Elecraft@mailman.qth.net This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html
Re: [Elecraft] NB/NR Noise Blanker/ Noise reduction
If I look at the audio response in Spectrogram while feeding in a noise source at the antenna the trace shows definite nulls when NR is switched in. In SSB at max width (2.7kHz) the number of nulls vary with the settings as follows: F1-# 9 F2-# 7 F3-# 4 F4-# 3 As # is increased from 1 to 4 at each F setting the depth of the nulls decreases and it's almost flat at #4. However RF gain and AGC slope settings drastically affect the depth of these nulls but at maximum the nulls are about -30db which would presumably affect the 'loudness' of a signal if it happened to fall in one of the holes? I don't have time at the moment to investigate further how the AGC settings affect the nulls but backing off the RF gain definitely flattens the response. According to Lyle back in 2007 the F parameter indicated the number of taps (?) in the adaptive filter and the second number the amount of signal 'bleed through' to reduce distortion effects. I'm not sure my limited knowledge of dsp and filters ties this in with what I see in Spectrogram. Having said this I must admit I tend to use filtering in preference to NR even though I seem to be able to get NR to work pretty well. 73, Stewart Rolfe, GW0ETF Steve Ellington wrote: This is amazingWe have some who complain about NR increasing the audio and some complaining about it reducing audio! -- View this message in context: http://n2.nabble.com/NB-NR-Noise-Blanker--Noise-reduction-tp2728863p2732318.html Sent from the Elecraft mailing list archive at Nabble.com. __ Elecraft mailing list Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm Post: mailto:Elecraft@mailman.qth.net This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html
Re: [Elecraft] [K3] K3 RX audio on voice modes oh no here we go again
For whose's interested: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Colors_of_noise What about: TECH MD NSE CHR (rx noise character) WHT (white) // PNK (pink) ? ;-) 73' Paul PD0PSB -- View this message in context: http://n2.nabble.com/K3-RX-audio-on-voice-modes-%3Coh-no-here-we-go-again%3E-tp2699273p2732639.html Sent from the [K3] mailing list archive at Nabble.com. __ Elecraft mailing list Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm Post: mailto:Elecraft@mailman.qth.net This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html
Re: [Elecraft] oh no, another crazy audio idea from Holland
Hi Paul, How well your idea performs in practice would, I suggest, depend on the strength of the wanted and unwanted signals of course, but also on the *in passband* and skirt region IMD behaviour of the roofer(s), and all 'stages' that follow vs.applied AGC. Any IMD 'weakness' in this area would result in a compromise. 73, Geoff GM4ESD Paul, PD0PSB wrote on Tuesday, April 28, 2009, at 8:16 AM My thought is that especially in wider modes,where you have a mix of wanted/non-wanted signals, to let the AGC focus on the wanted signal and prevent it from overreacting to unwanted signals by pre-EQ ing the the AGC detector. __ Elecraft mailing list Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm Post: mailto:Elecraft@mailman.qth.net This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html
Re: [Elecraft] oh no, another crazy audio idea from Holland
On Tue, 2009-04-28 at 00:16 -0700, pd0psb wrote: I aware though that dynamics processing in audio is an artform as such. Frequency-dependent (or multiband) dynamics processing multiplies all variables so is an even higher art :-) But it is capable of very well controlled results with a minimum of artifacts! In the pro Audio world compression is a different game to the AGC in a receiver. In music we are controlling dynamic range over a few dB only, even over this limited range it's arguable that this results in 'minimum artefacts' but then most of my work in pro audio was spent working with Acoustic Music with an inherent large dynamic range, even small ( a few dB on transients etc) can alter the overall colour of a recording in unacceptable ways, This is one of the reasons that I used to go to a very good mastering engineer in a separate mastering studio when we needed to muck about with the overall Dynamic range of a good acoustic recording . In Rock/pop and in broadcast radio the effects of multi-band compression are easy to hear and often not very pleasant at all to listen to although they have long been part of the overall 'sound' The K3 has an excellent AGC, if you wish to weight it towards the lower (af) frequency then try AGC SFT (Soft) in the new firmware and set some slope. AGH HLD is also a great feature, RACAL used an AGC system like this on the RA-3720 and it's wonderful to see the same AGC feature in the K3. Experiment with the release speed and threshold too. transient reject is already in there and has been for a long time (AGC PLS = NOR) the K3 ran rings around my Icom 7800 in this regard, the only thing I miss about the 7800 is all the money I lost in deprecation whilst I owned it. Multi (audio) band AGC belongs in outboard gear if this is something you really feel will add to your enjoyment of the radio Multi-band compression (IF DONE RIGHT..) may further improve the average power in SSB whilst maintaining intelligibility, However most of the Multiband processed audio I hear on the HF bands is too wide (lots of LF energy complete with the in-band IMD it can cause) or over-done, enough fidelity is lost that it actually degrades the ability to copy the station on a noisy band. 73 Brendan EI6IZ -- Don‘t complain. Nobody will understand. Or care. And certainly don‘t try to fix the situation yourself. It‘s dangerous. Leave it to a highly untrained, unqualified, expendable professional. __ Elecraft mailing list Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm Post: mailto:Elecraft@mailman.qth.net This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html
[Elecraft] K3 Noise Reduction
As far as I am concerned the benchmark for good SSB noise reduction can be found in the Ten-Tec Omni VII. It does not call itself a signal enhancer. It is not a signal enhancer. It reduces (almost eliminates) the QRN and makes the signal pleasant to listen to without a whole lot of sharp artifacts. I sold my Omni VII..big mistake! Once you have heard good noise reduction you will agree the K3 noise reduction could be substantially improved. The K3 is just too good to let this feature turn off so many people. Roy Morris W4WFB __ Elecraft mailing list Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm Post: mailto:Elecraft@mailman.qth.net This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html
Re: [Elecraft] K3 NB/NR Noise Blanker/ Noise reduction
Hello Gordan, well my AGC settings are now THR 008 and SLP 000 I'm not saying this is best or optimum but it certainly improves the action of NR. I'm still experimenting, but found ( thanks to Steve), that the default AGC values for me gave ineffective NR. Be aware that you may find strong signals could be too loud with these AGC settings. I use my RF gain control, and usually it's between 11 and 1 . 73, Deni F5VJC Gordan Hribar wrote: Hello Deni! Please could you repeat again this AGC settings? 73, E72X, Gordan, --- On *Tue, 4/28/09, Deni /foxfive@gmail.com/* wrote: __ Elecraft mailing list Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm Post: mailto:Elecraft@mailman.qth.net This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html
Re: [Elecraft] [K3] K3 RX audio on voice modes oh no here we go again
Thank you Paul - the Wiki entry was new to me and very interesting. It demonstrated well to a non-expert such as myself the less aggressive nature of pink noise compared with white. The red/brown noise sounded even better to my ears but maybe its spectrum is not as suitable for voice communication. Anyone care to comment? 73 to all Geoff G3UCK - Original Message - From: pd0psb p.s.bijp...@gmail.com For whose's interested: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Colors_of_noise What about: TECH MD NSE CHR (rx noise character) WHT (white) // PNK (pink) ? ;-) 73' Paul PD0PSB __ Elecraft mailing list Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm Post: mailto:Elecraft@mailman.qth.net This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html
Re: [Elecraft] oh no, another crazy audio idea from Holland
Hi Brendan, Thanks for you reply! If you think, my idea is to bring an audiostudio into an HF tranceiver, that's not at all what I would like. I quite dislike all the bass heavy overprocessed signals on the band. My thought's are only what ifs for best SSB reception.. Great SSB receivers from the past I think stood out for: -excellent RF capabilties (K3 status : done cum laude) -the most pleasant/natural audio curve to listen to (K3 status: ...well...) -the most unnoticable AGC action (K3 status: almost all the way there) I just wonder if slightly desensing the AGC for frequencies in the 1-3KHz audio range in voice mode may help to add that last bit of rest. 73' Paul PD0PSB Multi (audio) band AGC belongs in outboard gear if this is something you really feel will add to your enjoyment of the radio Multi-band compression (IF DONE RIGHT..) may further improve the average power in SSB whilst maintaining intelligibility, However most of the Multiband processed audio I hear on the HF bands is too wide (lots of LF energy complete with the in-band IMD it can cause) or over-done, enough fidelity is lost that it actually degrades the ability to copy the station on a noisy band. -- View this message in context: http://n2.nabble.com/oh-no%2C-another-crazy-audio-idea-from-Holland-tp2727619p2733217.html Sent from the Elecraft mailing list archive at Nabble.com. __ Elecraft mailing list Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm Post: mailto:Elecraft@mailman.qth.net This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html
Re: [Elecraft] [K3] K3 RX audio on voice modes oh no here we go again
Geoff, Pink tends to sound most flat to our ears. That's why it's widely used to calibrate audio equipment. Red/brown may sound nice as well, but are relatively dark Funny thing about white is that it keeps that agressive nature in a restricted bandwidth, because the high flank will grab the most attention of our ears. I think that may be a reason to cause ear fatigue in the long run. In analog DIY radio's I've allways tried to maintain a pinkish character with a gentle low slope and a steep high. 73' Paul PD0PSB Geoffrey Downs-2 wrote: Thank you Paul - the Wiki entry was new to me and very interesting. It demonstrated well to a non-expert such as myself the less aggressive nature of pink noise compared with white. The red/brown noise sounded even better to my ears but maybe its spectrum is not as suitable for voice communication. Anyone care to comment? 73 to all Geoff G3UCK - Original Message - From: pd0psb p.s.bijp...@gmail.com For whose's interested: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Colors_of_noise What about: TECH MD NSE CHR (rx noise character) WHT (white) // PNK (pink) ? ;-) 73' Paul PD0PSB __ Elecraft mailing list Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm Post: mailto:Elecraft@mailman.qth.net This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html -- View this message in context: http://n2.nabble.com/K3-RX-audio-on-voice-modes-%3Coh-no-here-we-go-again%3E-tp2699273p2733381.html Sent from the [K3] mailing list archive at Nabble.com. __ Elecraft mailing list Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm Post: mailto:Elecraft@mailman.qth.net This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html
Re: [Elecraft] oh no, another crazy audio idea from Holland
pd0psb wrote: Great SSB receivers from the past I think stood out for: -the most unnoticable AGC action (K3 status: almost all the way there) If you really want great sounding ssb, turn off the AGC, turn on the AF Limiter and throttle RF/AF gain. 73, Barry N1EU -- View this message in context: http://n2.nabble.com/oh-no%2C-another-crazy-audio-idea-from-Holland-tp2727619p2733784.html Sent from the Elecraft mailing list archive at Nabble.com. __ Elecraft mailing list Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm Post: mailto:Elecraft@mailman.qth.net This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html
[Elecraft] F.S. Elecraft MH2 mike
Howdy Gang: I have for sale a like-new Elecraft MH2 hand mike. This mike was used only a couple of times to check iout on my KD1JV MMR-40 SSB rig. It can also be used with the Elecraft K3. Will ship for $55. 73, Joe W2KJ I QRP, therefore I am __ Elecraft mailing list Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm Post: mailto:Elecraft@mailman.qth.net This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html
Re: [Elecraft] [K3] K3 RX audio on voice modes oh no here we go again
It's important to note that the spectrum of the noise each of us hears is *not* the spectrum presented by the source. Everything we hear is filtered by our ears. In the past youngster's ears were considered rather 'flat' from perhaps 20 Hz up to above 16 kHz. That changes as we get older and experience loud noises. Typically we develop holes in our hearing where we cannot hear anything at specific frequencies. Also, our overall frequency response is damaged. The nerve attachments in our ears for the higher frequencies seem to be the most delicate and are the first damaged by repeatedly hearing loud sounds. Even so, the overdone thudding base of many sound systems can destroy sensitivity in the low registers too. That's why people today, even young people in their teens, typically have hearing no better than those of a octogenarian of half a century ago. A desire for loud music has created what experts in the USA call a generation of functionally deaf people. My hearing is full of holes punctuated by chronic ringing (tinnitus) and my upper register is gone, thanks to long-term exposure to firearms and explosives in the Army. As a result, I like a lot of high frequency emphasis because it provides the most natural sounding audio after it passes through *my* banged-up ears. It's no wonder there are as many opinions about the sound of a rig as there are people listening... Ron AC7AC __ Elecraft mailing list Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm Post: mailto:Elecraft@mailman.qth.net This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html
Re: [Elecraft] F. S. MH2 mike
The MH2 mike offered for sale earlier has been spoken for...many thanks. 73, Joe W2KJ I QRP, therefore I am __ Elecraft mailing list Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm Post: mailto:Elecraft@mailman.qth.net This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html
Re: [Elecraft] oh no, another crazy audio idea from Holland
I'm sorry, but IMHO, if you have to do this, you don't have a well-designed receiver. As far as I'm concerned, these super-duper DSP radios should be smarter than I am and they should know when to switch the preamp in or out, when to switch the attenuator in or out and how to proportion the AGC between hardware and DSP for best IMD performance and so that SNR is maintained. Arguably the best sounding SSB (and for a DSP radio, AM) receiver around in the one in the TS 870. I *never* fiddle with the RF gain on mine, the AGC works dandy and I can listen to it for hours (phones on) without fatigue. Wes Stewart, N7WS If you really want great sounding ssb, turn off the AGC, turn on the AF Limiter and throttle RF/AF gain. 73, Barry N1EU __ Elecraft mailing list Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm Post: mailto:Elecraft@mailman.qth.net This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html
[Elecraft] F.S. Elecraft MH2 mike
I have a new MH-2 hand mic which I purchased with my K3 but other than try it out, I put it back in packaging as I decided to use a dynamic hand mic instead. Asking $50 US plus postage. 73 from Fern __ Elecraft mailing list Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm Post: mailto:Elecraft@mailman.qth.net This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html
Re: [Elecraft] [K3] K3 RX audio on voice modes oh no here we go again
All true Ron! Fact remains that by law of physics / psycho-acoustics pink is perceived by average human ears as flat. Therfore (I think) it would be nice to start off with a flat noise character, and adjust that per individual by the RX EQ. You will also notice that the range of the EQ by ear will become larger if it's fed with pink. So it will still be possible to counter-adjust your personal curve. 73' Paul PD0PSB It's important to note that the spectrum of the noise each of us hears is *not* the spectrum presented by the source. Everything we hear is filtered by our ears. In the past youngster's ears were considered rather 'flat' from perhaps 20 Hz up to above 16 kHz. It's no wonder there are as many opinions about the sound of a rig as there are people listening... Ron AC7AC -- View this message in context: http://n2.nabble.com/K3-RX-audio-on-voice-modes-%3Coh-no-here-we-go-again%3E-tp2699273p2734300.html Sent from the [K3] mailing list archive at Nabble.com. __ Elecraft mailing list Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm Post: mailto:Elecraft@mailman.qth.net This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html
[Elecraft] K3 firmware and AGC question
I recently had my K3 (S/N 740) updated at the factory with the 2nd receiver and other relevant mods. It has firmware 2.78 installed and the rig was received back from Aptos about two weeks ago. Since receiving it, I have noticed that the Audio gain needs to be cranked up more than before. The rig never had gobs of rx audio, but I am finding it at 2 or 3 o'clock most of the time. I was on 30m with the bandwidth set to about 1.0 kHz and using NR. As a test, I shut down the AGC and it seems to have plenty of rx audio then (but of course NO protection...). Turn on NR substantially drops rx audio including signals... Even without NR, it seems a bit weak. I am not a young buck and hearing is somewhat addled, but no hearing aids yet! Has anyone noticed changes in rx audio with either installation of the 2nd rx or somewhat updated firmware? If I upgrade to the latest and greatest (3.11??) what should the AGC settings be for general use? I know there were lengthy discussions here regarding AGC parameters, but didn't pay much attention when they came by. Is there a summary page/wiki somewhere?? -- 73 AllanK7GT __ Elecraft mailing list Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm Post: mailto:Elecraft@mailman.qth.net This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html
Re: [Elecraft] oh no, another crazy audio idea from Holland
True Barry! That's the most natural sound, but not very practical in a 80dB difference per signal contest situation ;-) You'll get a beep in your ear that won't be auto-notchable HI. 73' Paul PD0PSB If you really want great sounding ssb, turn off the AGC, turn on the AF Limiter and throttle RF/AF gain. 73, Barry N1EU -- View this message in context: http://n2.nabble.com/oh-no%2C-another-crazy-audio-idea-from-Holland-tp2727619p2734336.html Sent from the Elecraft mailing list archive at Nabble.com. __ Elecraft mailing list Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm Post: mailto:Elecraft@mailman.qth.net This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html
[Elecraft] NR
Elecrafters, Very interesting the varied experiences with the K3 NR. All I can say is that in the past season (Sept.-March) I have worked 192 countries on 80m. This is a good testament to the NR effectiveness on qrn/qrm/etc. I very seldom use the K3 with the NR off. On the other hand, the recent comment on the great effectiveness of the OMNI VII NR is confusing to me. My OMNI VII has the least effective NR I have experienced thusfar. The best NR I have had in the past was on an OMNI VI+. All depends on the operators ear/preferences/ and perhaps quirks of individual radios. I got the K3 especially for low band DXing as that is my favorite passtime. 73 and K3success to all,Mike K5NU __ Elecraft mailing list Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm Post: mailto:Elecraft@mailman.qth.net This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html
Re: [Elecraft] [K3] K3 RX audio on voice modes oh no here we goagain
One thing I look for is audio stage hiss. Disconnect the antenna, turn down the AF gain to minimum and listen using hi-fi headphones. You should not hear anything. The K3 is dead silent. The FT-7000 has some hiss. I use a headphone attenuator on the FT-7000 to drop the hiss out of my hearing range. Next, with the antenna still disconnected, turn down the RF/IF gain to minimum and increase the AF gain. The K3 is silent. Most Yaesu's, FT-1K series, tend to have a milky hiss coming from the last IF stage. Changing the RF gain has no effect. I had an FT-1Kmp and that IF stage hiss drove me to sell it quickly. There is a mod that reduces the gain of that IF stage but that seems like a poor solution. With the ant. still disconnected, turn up the RF gain. Most receivers will present some noise. This is generated by the RF amplifier. The K3 will provide plenty of this. Turn on the pre-amp. Now you'll really hear some noise. I believe the quietest overall I've seen for this test is the IC-7800. That thing is really quiet. In the end, being able to hear weak signals is what matters but hearing them with no noise generated by the radio makes it even better. Steve Ellington n...@carolina.rr.com - Original Message - From: Dave Hachadorian k...@arrl.net To: Elecraft reflector elecraft@mailman.qth.net Sent: Tuesday, April 28, 2009 10:08 AM Subject: Re: [Elecraft] [K3] K3 RX audio on voice modes oh no here we goagain I have a friend who is considering buying a K3, and last Saturday I brought one of my K3's over to his house to compare with his FT-1000 Mk V. We were able to switch an antenna back and forth between the two rigs and just listen to snr on weak signals, while playing with NB, NR and shift/width. We were listening on the rigs' built-in speakers. Neither rig had a decided advantage in our little test. He also has heavy line noise from a nearby HV line, and neither rig was able to help much with that problem. However, I was astounded at the difference in audio characteristics between the two radios. The K3 had much more accentuation of high frequencies. One person might call that crisp, while another might call it harsh. In contrast the Mk V might be labelled by one person as mellow, or by another as muffled. I tried to get the two radios to sound the same by playing with their shift/width, but was not really successful. I'm not sure which sounds better, especially for long-term listening, but they sure do sound different. Dave Hachadorian, K6LL Yuma, AZ . __ Elecraft mailing list Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm Post: mailto:Elecraft@mailman.qth.net This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html __ Elecraft mailing list Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm Post: mailto:Elecraft@mailman.qth.net This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html
Re: [Elecraft] K3 firmware and AGC question
Allan. In the conif. menu, is you AF Gain set for LO or HI? Steve Ellington n...@carolina.rr.com - Original Message - From: Allan Taylor k7gt...@gmail.com To: elecraft@mailman.qth.net Sent: Tuesday, April 28, 2009 11:52 AM Subject: [Elecraft] K3 firmware and AGC question I recently had my K3 (S/N 740) updated at the factory with the 2nd receiver and other relevant mods. It has firmware 2.78 installed and the rig was received back from Aptos about two weeks ago. Since receiving it, I have noticed that the Audio gain needs to be cranked up more than before. The rig never had gobs of rx audio, but I am finding it at 2 or 3 o'clock most of the time. I was on 30m with the bandwidth set to about 1.0 kHz and using NR. As a test, I shut down the AGC and it seems to have plenty of rx audio then (but of course NO protection...). Turn on NR substantially drops rx audio including signals... Even without NR, it seems a bit weak. I am not a young buck and hearing is somewhat addled, but no hearing aids yet! Has anyone noticed changes in rx audio with either installation of the 2nd rx or somewhat updated firmware? If I upgrade to the latest and greatest (3.11??) what should the AGC settings be for general use? I know there were lengthy discussions here regarding AGC parameters, but didn't pay much attention when they came by. Is there a summary page/wiki somewhere?? -- 73 AllanK7GT __ Elecraft mailing list Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm Post: mailto:Elecraft@mailman.qth.net This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html __ Elecraft mailing list Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm Post: mailto:Elecraft@mailman.qth.net This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html
Re: [Elecraft] K3 firmware and AGC question
My k3 audio level is typically set to 10 o'clock. 73 de ke4wy jim Sent from my iPod On Apr 28, 2009, at 11:52 AM, Allan Taylor k7gt...@gmail.com wrote: I recently had my K3 (S/N 740) updated at the factory with the 2nd receiver and other relevant mods. It has firmware 2.78 installed and the rig was received back from Aptos about two weeks ago. Since receiving it, I have noticed that the Audio gain needs to be cranked up more than before. The rig never had gobs of rx audio, but I am finding it at 2 or 3 o'clock most of the time. I was on 30m with the bandwidth set to about 1.0 kHz and using NR. As a test, I shut down the AGC and it seems to have plenty of rx audio then (but of course NO protection...). Turn on NR substantially drops rx audio including signals... Even without NR, it seems a bit weak. I am not a young buck and hearing is somewhat addled, but no hearing aids yet! Has anyone noticed changes in rx audio with either installation of the 2nd rx or somewhat updated firmware? If I upgrade to the latest and greatest (3.11??) what should the AGC settings be for general use? I know there were lengthy discussions here regarding AGC parameters, but didn't pay much attention when they came by. Is there a summary page/wiki somewhere?? -- 73 AllanK7GT __ Elecraft mailing list Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm Post: mailto:Elecraft@mailman.qth.net This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html __ Elecraft mailing list Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm Post: mailto:Elecraft@mailman.qth.net This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html
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Re: [Elecraft] [K3] K3 RX audio on voice modes oh no here we go again
Also true Steve! The K3 is the most silent I've ever experienced. Pull the antenna out and you're virtually left with nothing. That's why I think the hiss complaints are caused by its noise character... 73' Paul PD0PSB One thing I look for is audio stage hiss. Disconnect the antenna, turn down the AF gain to minimum and listen using hi-fi headphones. You should not hear anything. The K3 is dead silent. -- View this message in context: http://n2.nabble.com/K3-RX-audio-on-voice-modes-%3Coh-no-here-we-go-again%3E-tp2699273p2734973.html Sent from the [K3] mailing list archive at Nabble.com. __ Elecraft mailing list Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm Post: mailto:Elecraft@mailman.qth.net This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html
Re: [Elecraft] oh no, another crazy audio idea from Holland
Wes Stewart wrote: I'm sorry, but IMHO, if you have to do this, you don't have a well-designed receiver. Nah, the K3 AGC is quite good - speech will ALWAYS sound more natural without AGC and its inherent dynamics-limiting action. 73, Barry N1EU -- View this message in context: http://n2.nabble.com/oh-no%2C-another-crazy-audio-idea-from-Holland-tp2727619p2734975.html Sent from the Elecraft mailing list archive at Nabble.com. __ Elecraft mailing list Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm Post: mailto:Elecraft@mailman.qth.net This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html
Re: [Elecraft] [K3] K3 RX audio on voice modes oh no here we go again
BTW gentlemen, shall we put the lid on? We've been occupying quite some (pink) bandwidth! Thanks for the discussion! Paul PD0PSB Also true Steve! The K3 is the most silent I've ever experienced. Pull the antenna out and you're virtually left with nothing. That's why I think the hiss complaints are caused by its noise character... 73' Paul PD0PSB Steve Ellington wrote: One thing I look for is audio stage hiss. Disconnect the antenna, turn down the AF gain to minimum and listen using hi-fi headphones. You should not hear anything. The K3 is dead silent. -- View this message in context: http://n2.nabble.com/K3-RX-audio-on-voice-modes-%3Coh-no-here-we-go-again%3E-tp2699273p2735044.html Sent from the [K3] mailing list archive at Nabble.com. __ Elecraft mailing list Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm Post: mailto:Elecraft@mailman.qth.net This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html
Re: [Elecraft] K3 firmware and AGC question
what should the AGC settings be for general use? Try these: dcy soft hld 0.20 pls nor slp 0 thr 8 f 200 s 020 Dave Hachadorian, K6LL Yuma, AZ __ Elecraft mailing list Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm Post: mailto:Elecraft@mailman.qth.net This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html
Re: [Elecraft] K3 firmware and AGC question
Tom, et al. Boy, does THAT make a difference... Yup, AF GAIN was set on LO. Now things are about right at 10 o'clock w/o NR and 11 o'clock with NR. (Now the Aptos gang needs to implement the same configuration option on the K2...) I guess the fact that I haven't taken the time to really familiarize myself with the K3 is showing. I figured out how to change B/W and centering of filters, set power level, interface with computer for logging and key an amp. Then off to enjoying the new radio. I bought a Kenwood mike to use with it, but have yet to plug it in. Biggest unresolved problem so far: the K3 is too light. Slides back when I put in the headphone plug! Oh, I like the NR on the K3. Level one is at least as good as on the OmniVI. I seldom drop down to really narrow bandwidths, preferring about 800 to 1000 Hz B/W. I have yet to use it in a contest, though. (Used the OmniVI for SS last fall) Thanks, guys K7GT On Tue, Apr 28, 2009 at 9:47 AM, Radio Amateur N5GE n...@n5ge.com wrote: On Tue, 28 Apr 2009 08:52:52 -0700, Allan Taylor k7gt...@gmail.com wrote: Allan, When you have the sub RX and Main RX both turned on there will be a 3dB reduction in signal strength (and Volume) due to the combiner that combines the two signals. This is normal and can't be avoided. As the other folks told you they may have set your volume level to low. Hold the Menu button till you are in CONFIG mode, turn the VFO B knob till you see AF GAIN, then turn the A VFO Knob till you see HI in the display. NR does seem to reduce the volume a bit, but when you get a signal it will be above the noise unless it is very weak. I recently had my K3 (S/N 740) updated at the factory with the 2nd receiver and other relevant mods. It has firmware 2.78 installed and the rig was received back from Aptos about two weeks ago. Since receiving it, I have noticed that the Audio gain needs to be cranked up more than before. The rig never had gobs of rx audio, but I am finding it at 2 or 3 o'clock most of the time. I was on 30m with the bandwidth set to about 1.0 kHz and using NR. As a test, I shut down the AGC and it seems to have plenty of rx audio then (but of course NO protection...). Turn on NR substantially drops rx audio including signals... Even without NR, it seems a bit weak. I am not a young buck and hearing is somewhat addled, but no hearing aids yet! Alan I am 64 and have hearing loss and wear hearing aides, but did not know I needed them until I went for a hearing test and found that my hearing was very poor at several frequencies. On the day I got my hearing aides it was raining lightly. When I realized I could hear the rain hitting the dry leave on the ground again I almost wept. Normally I'm not very much of a wimp, but that event was a wonderful experience. Have your hearing tested and get some good digital hearing aides if you find you need them, but not from the cut rate places that advertise in the paper and on TV. I'm not selling anything. If you want more information about my experience with them I'll be glad to tell you more. Enjoy your K3 Has anyone noticed changes in rx audio with either installation of the 2nd rx or somewhat updated firmware? If I upgrade to the latest and greatest (3.11??) what should the AGC settings be for general use? I know there were lengthy discussions here regarding AGC parameters, but didn't pay much attention when they came by. Is there a summary page/wiki somewhere?? Tom, N5GE K3 #806, K3 #1055 XV144, XV432 W1 and other small kits. http://www.n5ge.com -- 73 AllanK7GT __ Elecraft mailing list Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm Post: mailto:Elecraft@mailman.qth.net This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html
Re: [Elecraft] K3 firmware and AGC question
Allan, What's your address? I have some extra black rubber lace that you can put under your K3. It made all the difference for me. This stuff is supposed to go into the cupboard or into kitchen drawers. Andreas, N6NU -Original Message- From: elecraft-boun...@mailman.qth.net [mailto:elecraft-boun...@mailman.qth.net] On Behalf Of Allan Taylor Sent: Tuesday, April 28, 2009 12:06 PM To: n...@n5ge.com Cc: Elecraft Subject: Re: [Elecraft] K3 firmware and AGC question Tom, et al. Boy, does THAT make a difference... Yup, AF GAIN was set on LO. Now things are about right at 10 o'clock w/o NR and 11 o'clock with NR. (Now the Aptos gang needs to implement the same configuration option on the K2...) I guess the fact that I haven't taken the time to really familiarize myself with the K3 is showing. I figured out how to change B/W and centering of filters, set power level, interface with computer for logging and key an amp. Then off to enjoying the new radio. I bought a Kenwood mike to use with it, but have yet to plug it in. Biggest unresolved problem so far: the K3 is too light. Slides back when I put in the headphone plug! Oh, I like the NR on the K3. Level one is at least as good as on the OmniVI. I seldom drop down to really narrow bandwidths, preferring about 800 to 1000 Hz B/W. I have yet to use it in a contest, though. (Used the OmniVI for SS last fall) Thanks, guys K7GT On Tue, Apr 28, 2009 at 9:47 AM, Radio Amateur N5GE n...@n5ge.com wrote: On Tue, 28 Apr 2009 08:52:52 -0700, Allan Taylor k7gt...@gmail.com wrote: Allan, When you have the sub RX and Main RX both turned on there will be a 3dB reduction in signal strength (and Volume) due to the combiner that combines the two signals. This is normal and can't be avoided. As the other folks told you they may have set your volume level to low. Hold the Menu button till you are in CONFIG mode, turn the VFO B knob till you see AF GAIN, then turn the A VFO Knob till you see HI in the display. NR does seem to reduce the volume a bit, but when you get a signal it will be above the noise unless it is very weak. I recently had my K3 (S/N 740) updated at the factory with the 2nd receiver and other relevant mods. It has firmware 2.78 installed and the rig was received back from Aptos about two weeks ago. Since receiving it, I have noticed that the Audio gain needs to be cranked up more than before. The rig never had gobs of rx audio, but I am finding it at 2 or 3 o'clock most of the time. I was on 30m with the bandwidth set to about 1.0 kHz and using NR. As a test, I shut down the AGC and it seems to have plenty of rx audio then (but of course NO protection...). Turn on NR substantially drops rx audio including signals... Even without NR, it seems a bit weak. I am not a young buck and hearing is somewhat addled, but no hearing aids yet! Alan I am 64 and have hearing loss and wear hearing aides, but did not know I needed them until I went for a hearing test and found that my hearing was very poor at several frequencies. On the day I got my hearing aides it was raining lightly. When I realized I could hear the rain hitting the dry leave on the ground again I almost wept. Normally I'm not very much of a wimp, but that event was a wonderful experience. Have your hearing tested and get some good digital hearing aides if you find you need them, but not from the cut rate places that advertise in the paper and on TV. I'm not selling anything. If you want more information about my experience with them I'll be glad to tell you more. Enjoy your K3 Has anyone noticed changes in rx audio with either installation of the 2nd rx or somewhat updated firmware? If I upgrade to the latest and greatest (3.11??) what should the AGC settings be for general use? I know there were lengthy discussions here regarding AGC parameters, but didn't pay much attention when they came by. Is there a summary page/wiki somewhere?? Tom, N5GE K3 #806, K3 #1055 XV144, XV432 W1 and other small kits. http://www.n5ge.com -- 73 AllanK7GT __ Elecraft mailing list Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm Post: mailto:Elecraft@mailman.qth.net This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html __ Elecraft mailing list Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm Post: mailto:Elecraft@mailman.qth.net This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html
Re: [Elecraft] K3 firmware and AGC question
Yep, best stuff I ever stole from my wife! :-) 73 de Terry KK6T K3 #2965 (still in kit form) Andreas Junge wrote: Allan, What's your address? I have some extra black rubber lace that you can put under your K3. It made all the difference for me. This stuff is supposed to go into the cupboard or into kitchen drawers. Andreas, N6NU -Original Message- From: elecraft-boun...@mailman.qth.net [mailto:elecraft-boun...@mailman.qth.net] On Behalf Of Allan Taylor Sent: Tuesday, April 28, 2009 12:06 PM To: n...@n5ge.com Cc: Elecraft Subject: Re: [Elecraft] K3 firmware and AGC question Tom, et al. Boy, does THAT make a difference... Yup, AF GAIN was set on LO. Now things are about right at 10 o'clock w/o NR and 11 o'clock with NR. (Now the Aptos gang needs to implement the same configuration option on the K2...) I guess the fact that I haven't taken the time to really familiarize myself with the K3 is showing. I figured out how to change B/W and centering of filters, set power level, interface with computer for logging and key an amp. Then off to enjoying the new radio. I bought a Kenwood mike to use with it, but have yet to plug it in. Biggest unresolved problem so far: the K3 is too light. Slides back when I put in the headphone plug! Oh, I like the NR on the K3. Level one is at least as good as on the OmniVI. I seldom drop down to really narrow bandwidths, preferring about 800 to 1000 Hz B/W. I have yet to use it in a contest, though. (Used the OmniVI for SS last fall) Thanks, guys K7GT On Tue, Apr 28, 2009 at 9:47 AM, Radio Amateur N5GE n...@n5ge.com wrote: On Tue, 28 Apr 2009 08:52:52 -0700, Allan Taylor k7gt...@gmail.com wrote: Allan, When you have the sub RX and Main RX both turned on there will be a 3dB reduction in signal strength (and Volume) due to the combiner that combines the two signals. This is normal and can't be avoided. As the other folks told you they may have set your volume level to low. Hold the Menu button till you are in CONFIG mode, turn the VFO B knob till you see AF GAIN, then turn the A VFO Knob till you see HI in the display. NR does seem to reduce the volume a bit, but when you get a signal it will be above the noise unless it is very weak. I recently had my K3 (S/N 740) updated at the factory with the 2nd receiver and other relevant mods. It has firmware 2.78 installed and the rig was received back from Aptos about two weeks ago. Since receiving it, I have noticed that the Audio gain needs to be cranked up more than before. The rig never had gobs of rx audio, but I am finding it at 2 or 3 o'clock most of the time. I was on 30m with the bandwidth set to about 1.0 kHz and using NR. As a test, I shut down the AGC and it seems to have plenty of rx audio then (but of course NO protection...). Turn on NR substantially drops rx audio including signals... Even without NR, it seems a bit weak. I am not a young buck and hearing is somewhat addled, but no hearing aids yet! Alan I am 64 and have hearing loss and wear hearing aides, but did not know I needed them until I went for a hearing test and found that my hearing was very poor at several frequencies. On the day I got my hearing aides it was raining lightly. When I realized I could hear the rain hitting the dry leave on the ground again I almost wept. Normally I'm not very much of a wimp, but that event was a wonderful experience. Have your hearing tested and get some good digital hearing aides if you find you need them, but not from the cut rate places that advertise in the paper and on TV. I'm not selling anything. If you want more information about my experience with them I'll be glad to tell you more. Enjoy your K3 Has anyone noticed changes in rx audio with either installation of the 2nd rx or somewhat updated firmware? If I upgrade to the latest and greatest (3.11??) what should the AGC settings be for general use? I know there were lengthy discussions here regarding AGC parameters, but didn't pay much attention when they came by. Is there a summary page/wiki somewhere?? Tom, N5GE K3 #806, K3 #1055 XV144, XV432 W1 and other small kits. http://www.n5ge.com -- 73 AllanK7GT __ Elecraft mailing list Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm Post: mailto:Elecraft@mailman.qth.net This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html __
Re: [Elecraft] K3 firmware and AGC question
On Tue, 28 Apr 2009 12:05:50 -0700, Allan Taylor k7gt...@gmail.com wrote: Biggest unresolved problem so far: the K3 is too light. Slides back when I put in the headphone plug! Allan, You won't think so if you ever want to take it on a trip ;o) Plug the headphones in and leave them plugged in, then go to the Menu and find the SPKR+PH Setting and set it to YES. Any time you want to turn the speaker(s) off, set SPKR+PH to NO. Tom, N5GE K3 #806, K3 #1055 XV144, XV432 W1 and other small kits. http://www.n5ge.com __ Elecraft mailing list Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm Post: mailto:Elecraft@mailman.qth.net This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html
[Elecraft] K3
Using Dig pan for PSK31 and not data mode. What is the recommended way of Keying the K3 with this program in USB? Phil Philip LaMarche LaMarche Enterprises, Inc. http://www.instantgourmetspices.com/ www.instantgourmetspices.com www.w9dvm.com http://www.w9dvm.com/ 800-395-7795 pin 02 727-944-3226 FAX 727-937-8834 NASFT 30210 K3 #1605 CCA 98 00827 W9DVM __ Elecraft mailing list Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm Post: mailto:Elecraft@mailman.qth.net This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html
Re: [Elecraft] K3
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Re: [Elecraft] K3 firmware and AGC question
Plug the headphones in and leave them plugged in, then go to the Menu and find the SPKR+PH Setting and set it to YES. Any time you want to turn the speaker(s) off, set SPKR+PH to NO. And better yet is to program the above SPKR+PH setting into the PF1 or PF2 special function key and turn the speaker on/off with a simple push of the PF key! 73 Larry K1UO -- View this message in context: http://n2.nabble.com/K3-firmware-and-AGC-question-tp2734329p2737532.html Sent from the Elecraft mailing list archive at Nabble.com. __ Elecraft mailing list Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm Post: mailto:Elecraft@mailman.qth.net This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html
[Elecraft] [K3] Non Amplified D104
Anyone ever use the non amplified D104 mic? If you have, how does it perform and what's it look like on the scope? Does it sound good and natural without sounding like you are talking in a trash can? How do you compare it to other mics. -- View this message in context: http://n2.nabble.com/Non-Amplified-D104-tp2737535p2737535.html Sent from the [K3] mailing list archive at Nabble.com. __ Elecraft mailing list Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm Post: mailto:Elecraft@mailman.qth.net This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html
Re: [Elecraft] [K3] Non Amplified D104
On Tue, 28 Apr 2009 16:05:22 -0700 (PDT), -.-. --.-N3TU -.-. --.- wrote: Anyone ever use the non amplified D104 mic? Not for about 35 years. :) But it should work fine with the K3. Plug it in and get some signal reports from a trained listener, then tweak the TX equalizer if it needs it. I suspect that it won't need much tweaking. 73, Jim Brown K9YC __ Elecraft mailing list Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm Post: mailto:Elecraft@mailman.qth.net This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html
Re: [Elecraft] [K3] Non Amplified D104
At 04:05 PM 28 04 2009, -.-. --.-N3TU -.-. --.- wrote: Anyone ever use the non amplified D104 mic? At 04:14 PM 28 04 2009, Jim Brown, K9YC wrote: But it should work fine with the K3. Plug it in and get some signal reports from a trained listener, then tweak the TX equalizer if it needs it. I suspect that it won't need much tweaking. I use a forty-year old non-amplified D-104 with my K3. Works find. Indeed, I had K9YC check my audio. After a bit of fiddling, Jim recommended no TX equalization for me. 73, Hank, W6SX Mammoth Lakes, California Elevation 8083 feet in John Muir's Range of Light __ Elecraft mailing list Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm Post: mailto:Elecraft@mailman.qth.net This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html
[Elecraft] Fw: [K3] Non Amplified D104
I presently use a D104 that I modified using a rubber mounted Radio Shack electret element. With bias on it works well. Reports on air are good. Reports using the crystal element were poor. George AI4VZ Anyone ever use the non amplified D104 mic? If you have, how does it perform and what's it look like on the scope? Does it sound good and natural without sounding like you are talking in a trash can? How do you compare it to other mics. __ Elecraft mailing list Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm Post: mailto:Elecraft@mailman.qth.net This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html
Re: [Elecraft] K3
If you are running PSK31 from a computer digital mode program you must use Data-A. PSK-D is ONLY for use with either paddle input or ascii input over the serial port using a terminal program or the K3Utility program. 73 Greg AB7R On Apr 28, 2009, at 3:23 PM, Phil LaMarche wrote: Using Dig pan for PSK31 and not data mode. What is the recommended way of Keying the K3 with this program in USB? Phil Philip LaMarche LaMarche Enterprises, Inc. http://www.instantgourmetspices.com/ www.instantgourmetspices.com www.w9dvm.com http://www.w9dvm.com/ 800-395-7795 pin 02 727-944-3226 FAX 727-937-8834 NASFT 30210 K3 #1605 CCA 98 00827 W9DVM __ Elecraft mailing list Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm Post: mailto:Elecraft@mailman.qth.net This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html __ Elecraft mailing list Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm Post: mailto:Elecraft@mailman.qth.net This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html
