Re: [Elecraft] OT: RFI from Front Loading Washing Machines
On Tue, 8 Sep 2009 07:16:18 +0100, David Cutter wrote: >From your research, would you conclude that the machine did not >comply with emc regulations? NO! FCC Rules give noise makers built into appliances and lighting equipment a complete exemption from EMC rules. Again, this is a topic for the RFI reflector. ALL of this has been discussed there, in great detail, including by folks who work in the EMC world. Like all the contesting.com reflectors, you can search threads and read them from the contesting.com website. And you can join if you like. 73, Jim Brown K9YC __ Elecraft mailing list Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm Post: mailto:Elecraft@mailman.qth.net This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html
Re: [Elecraft] OT: RFI from Front Loading Washing Machines
Leigh >From your research, would you conclude that the machine did not comply with emc regulations? This sort of problem is, as we all know, common with many imported computers, shipped with filters designed in but obviously missing. Is this a sign that industry in general is prepared to save a few $ per machine and have very few complaints from their customers? After all, as a proportion of the population, how many would notice? David G3UNA > I posted an eHam article about this a couple of years ago. (In fact, if > you do "duet rfi" on Google you'll find me pretty quickly.) I get about > two messages a month from hams who have the Whirlpool Duet series and have > terrible RFI problems. Universally, when I advise they call Whirlpool and > complain, they report back that they were told that they were the first > person ever to report the problem. > > On eHam, someone responded with his own article and I took the suggested > steps: AC line filter, better ground, some ferrites and wire re-routing > inside the washer. Plus I partially remodeled my house, put in a new > ground system, and put in a tower and yagi. The noise went from S9+60 to > S3. An improvement only by comparison. > > Along the way I spoke with engineers at Whirlpool, received a whole > complete set of new innards from them, and did a lot of other research. > Despite their willingness to talk to me on the phone and send me parts > (which didn't help) I think th best solution is to buy something else. > > > Leigh/WA5ZNU > __ Elecraft mailing list Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm Post: mailto:Elecraft@mailman.qth.net This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html
Re: [Elecraft] OT: RFI from Front Loading Washing Machines
> On Mon, 7 Sep 2009 19:23:45 -0700 (PDT), Don Rasmussen wrote: > >>I've been stuck for a couple years now with a Whirlpool Duet front >>loading washing machine. The internal MCU and switcher power supply >>trashes entire HF at S9 +10, > > Your post is timely. As it happens, there are two recent threads > (begun on Friday or Saturday) on the RFI reflector on this topic. I > suggest that you head over to contesting.com and read them. It IS > off topic here, so I won't say more. :) > > 73, > > Jim K9YC I posted an eHam article about this a couple of years ago. (In fact, if you do "duet rfi" on Google you'll find me pretty quickly.) I get about two messages a month from hams who have the Whirlpool Duet series and have terrible RFI problems. Universally, when I advise they call Whirlpool and complain, they report back that they were told that they were the first person ever to report the problem. On eHam, someone responded with his own article and I took the suggested steps: AC line filter, better ground, some ferrites and wire re-routing inside the washer. Plus I partially remodeled my house, put in a new ground system, and put in a tower and yagi. The noise went from S9+60 to S3. An improvement only by comparison. Along the way I spoke with engineers at Whirlpool, received a whole complete set of new innards from them, and did a lot of other research. Despite their willingness to talk to me on the phone and send me parts (which didn't help) I think th best solution is to buy something else. It will be be interesting to see if the RFI list has a new, full solution. Leigh/WA5ZNU __ Elecraft mailing list Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm Post: mailto:Elecraft@mailman.qth.net This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html
Re: [Elecraft] OT: RFI from Front Loading Washing Machines
On Mon, 7 Sep 2009 19:23:45 -0700 (PDT), Don Rasmussen wrote: >I've been stuck for a couple years now with a Whirlpool Duet front >loading washing machine. The internal MCU and switcher power supply >trashes entire HF at S9 +10, Your post is timely. As it happens, there are two recent threads (begun on Friday or Saturday) on the RFI reflector on this topic. I suggest that you head over to contesting.com and read them. It IS off topic here, so I won't say more. :) 73, Jim K9YC __ Elecraft mailing list Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm Post: mailto:Elecraft@mailman.qth.net This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html
Re: [Elecraft] OT: RFI from Front Loading Washing Machines
Don Read down through this thread. You might want to contact this guy. http://lists.contesting.com/_rfi/2005-02/msg00041.html Steve N4LQ n...@carolina.rr.com - Original Message - From: "Don Rasmussen" To: Sent: Monday, September 07, 2009 10:23 PM Subject: [Elecraft] OT: RFI from Front Loading Washing Machines > I've been stuck for a couple years now with a Whirlpool Duet front loading > washing machine. The internal MCU and switcher power supply trashes entire > HF at S9 +10, I have to use an MFJ-1026 to remedy this. Whirlpool Duet and > Maytag Neptune are notoroius for this with no known sure fire remedies at > the device. > > Happily? The wife is NOT happy with the washer, seems it acts more like a > dishwasher with respect to cleaning power, that it to say VERY light duty. > > A tiny amount of water tossed about some dirty socks, well you get the > idea. > > I need suggestions on large capacity top loaders that habe a clean bill of > health in an HF environment. > > Please email your suggestion to wb8yqj at yahoo dot com so I might "clean > up" my act before the bands open for the Fall. > > TIA, > Don > __ > Elecraft mailing list > Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft > Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm > Post: mailto:Elecraft@mailman.qth.net > > This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net > Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html No virus found in this incoming message. Checked by AVG - www.avg.com Version: 8.5.409 / Virus Database: 270.13.83/2352 - Release Date: 09/07/09 18:03:00 __ Elecraft mailing list Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm Post: mailto:Elecraft@mailman.qth.net This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html
[Elecraft] OT: RFI from Front Loading Washing Machines
I've been stuck for a couple years now with a Whirlpool Duet front loading washing machine. The internal MCU and switcher power supply trashes entire HF at S9 +10, I have to use an MFJ-1026 to remedy this. Whirlpool Duet and Maytag Neptune are notoroius for this with no known sure fire remedies at the device. Happily? The wife is NOT happy with the washer, seems it acts more like a dishwasher with respect to cleaning power, that it to say VERY light duty. A tiny amount of water tossed about some dirty socks, well you get the idea. I need suggestions on large capacity top loaders that habe a clean bill of health in an HF environment. Please email your suggestion to wb8yqj at yahoo dot com so I might "clean up" my act before the bands open for the Fall. TIA, Don __ Elecraft mailing list Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm Post: mailto:Elecraft@mailman.qth.net This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html
Re: [Elecraft] [K2] poor IMD on barefoot K2, even at low power
Oleg, With the K2, you should have zero ALC bars illuminated - reduce your audio input level until the ALC bar does not illuminate. Are you using SSB mode? If so, have you set the menu SSBC parameter to1:1? You can set up the RTTY filter set (turn RTTY=ON in the secondary menu), and you will have a dedicated mode for soundcard data modes. The advantage is that the compression setting is independent of that used for SSB. 73, Don W3FPR dl0tuh wrote: > Hi, > > I gave a test to my PSK31 setup today - barefoot K2 #5932 with M-Audio sound > card in my desktop pc. My laptop pc was connected to a FT-840 and listening. > Both used old good DigiPan. > > I let my laptop measure IMD and also asked for this value during QSOs. In > all cases it's about -16dB which is very poor I beleive. > > The power level is set to 5W. PC sound output level was decreased so that > only the first ALC bar blinks. > > I also tried power levels setpoint from 0.1W to 15W. IMD value changed > continuosly from -19dB to -12dB. > > Anything I could try/check to figure out the reason of destortion? > > vy 73 de DL2IPU Oleg > > > > > No virus found in this incoming message. > Checked by AVG - www.avg.com > Version: 8.5.409 / Virus Database: 270.13.82/2351 - Release Date: 09/07/09 > 06:40:00 > > __ Elecraft mailing list Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm Post: mailto:Elecraft@mailman.qth.net This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html
Re: [Elecraft] Hi current
Dick, That current is definitely too high (except on 20 meters). The most common cause for that symptom is the Low Pass Filters. Do count the number of turns on the toroids in the LPF area - count each pass of wire through the center of the core as one turn. I believe you will find you have one extra turn on the toroids. A straight wire through the toroid center is one turn, a complete wrap around the core is two turns. 73, Don W3FPR richard gilley wrote: > Question: > > I am finding the following on my QRP K2 with KAT2, cal current set 3.7: > 20 meters power setting 14.6, current displayed 2.84, CW > 30 meters power setting 14.6, HI current displayed at CW TX, SWR > 1.2:1, current 3.74 > 40 meters power setting 14.6, Hi current displayed at CW TX, SWR > 1.2:1, current 3.72 > > Should I consider this as OK? > Or do I have an alignment issue on 30 and 40 meters or some other > issue I should look into? > The ant. on 30 is a vert, on 40 and 20 a dipole cut for 40 and 20. > > I am in the process adding the upgrade to K2/100 and do not want to > create smoke. > > Thank you for your consideration. > Best regards > Dick AD1G > __ > Elecraft mailing list > Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft > Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm > Post: mailto:Elecraft@mailman.qth.net > > This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net > Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html > > > > No virus found in this incoming message. > Checked by AVG - www.avg.com > Version: 8.5.409 / Virus Database: 270.13.80/2349 - Release Date: 09/06/09 > 05:51:00 > > __ Elecraft mailing list Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm Post: mailto:Elecraft@mailman.qth.net This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html
[Elecraft] Icon, Yeasu or ? Vs. Elecraft
The difference between the brands, sepic wise will never be night and day. You cann't call any of one brand, junk. The big difference between them all is company philosophy. Elecraft builds on what they have already made. Even if the others do offer frimware up grades here and there. The answer to major problems is a new model. In cameras, electronics and Ham Radio, it is the view of many companies that this way to keep the monies coming. The Elecraft group is more proactive. The upgrades are both hard and software. K1-3 owners are kit builders/hands on Hams. I love my K3 not only for it's great specs, but that I known the radio inside-out. I feel as if I am part of it's creative change and that Elecraft will support it's modles for years to come. Karl N6XVT Sent from my iPhone __ Elecraft mailing list Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm Post: mailto:Elecraft@mailman.qth.net This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html
Re: [Elecraft] K3 huge noise
http://akqg2.2pycn.servertrust.com/iHearSafe_0153_Headphones_p/hp0871s.htm Steve N4LQ n...@carolina.rr.com - Original Message - From: "Ralph" To: Sent: Monday, September 07, 2009 1:32 PM Subject: Re: [Elecraft] K3 huge noise >I was operating in the TN QSO party on 80m last night in Diversity mode >with headphones on. I'm not sure what I did but I got a huge continuous >blast in my right headphone. I couldn't get the headset off fast enough. >I did a power on reset and it cleared. I don't remember if I pushed NR or >not. The blast not only blew my right eardrum but blew any memory I had of >what I was doing at that moment. I do mean Ouch! > > Ralph K1ZZI > > Date: Sun, 6 Sep 2009 14:54:43 -0700 > From: "DAVID M. Elliott" > Subject: Re: [Elecraft] K3 huge noise > To: "Eric Swartz -WA6HHQ, Elecraft" > Cc: mark roz , elecraft@mailman.qth.net > Message-ID: <80b60cfb-c93a-4b00-83dc-921ecf12f...@earthlink.net> > Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII; format=flowed; delsp=yes > > Lyle hasn't got it yet!! > > Firmware 3.30 -- using NR (3-4) on SSB (14.178), first the volume > control did not work then after a little while the K3 goes to full > volume and only turning it off gets rid of the problem. > > THIS IS A SERIOUS PROBLEM!!! Hearing loss could result. Please got > on this ASAP. > > 73 de W6BK > > > On Aug 30, 2009, at 10:08 PM, Eric Swartz -WA6HHQ, Elecraft wrote: > >> Lyle just figured this out and corrected a typo in the dsp code. We >> should have a new beta shortly - Hopefully before end of Monday. >> >> (This is why we release beta test versions. ;-) >> >> 73, Eric >> >> >> mark roz wrote: >>> Almost lost my hearing. >>> Loaded 3.27A. NR engaged. F1-1. VFO A CW on 40m. VFO B SSB 40m. AGC >>> ON. Width 250Hz cw. 2.7 ssb. >>> Now switched from CW to SSB portion of 40m by pushing A/B - >>> horrible noise of very high >>> amplitude on speaker or headphones. Turned down the volume to min. >>> and in few few seconds >>> it stopped. Than again the same thing happened 70% of the time. >>> This only happens if NR is engaged on A and B VFO and while >>> switching from A to B. >>> Just did it again-now on the internal speaker. Wow!! it is loud. >>> Will not use NR for now. >>> Anybody else can duplicate this?? >>> >>> Beside that I like my new K3 a lot. This is my second K3. >>> Mark wq7x > __ > Elecraft mailing list > Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft > Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm > Post: mailto:Elecraft@mailman.qth.net > > This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net > Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html No virus found in this incoming message. Checked by AVG - www.avg.com Version: 8.5.409 / Virus Database: 270.13.82/2351 - Release Date: 09/07/09 06:40:00 __ Elecraft mailing list Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm Post: mailto:Elecraft@mailman.qth.net This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html
Re: [Elecraft] K3 Headset
On Mon, 7 Sep 2009 09:49:25 -0700 (PDT), Hector Padron wrote: >Go to your local audio store and get a Sony MDR-V150 for little less than 20 >bucks and those will last forever and sound better than the Heil ones,that's >what I have been using for about 8 years now. > >AD4C > [snip] I've been using Heil Prosets for ten years now and never had any problems with them, wiring or otherwise. They're not full fidelity headphones, but then communication headphones should not be. 73, Tom, N5GE n...@n5ge.com K3 #806, K3 #1055, PR6, XV144, XV432, KRC2, W1 and other small kits. http://www.n5ge.com http://www.swotrc.net __ Elecraft mailing list Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm Post: mailto:Elecraft@mailman.qth.net This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html
Re: [Elecraft] Re： Re： [K3] K3 VS 7600 Sher wood List
On 5 Sep 2009, at 8:39 PM, Johnny Siu wrote: > > Fourthly, I had used the entire IC756 family (i.e. IC756 original to > latest IC7600). I fully understand how this family has been > evolving. Similarly, I notice improvements of K2 and K3 throughout > the years. My first K2 is #1146. My K3 is the first batch when I > paid half the price as deposit and waited for a couple of months to > get my K3. One thing of note here is that the K3 evolves by progressive updates that can be end-user installed. Most are firmware updates, but some quite easy hardware tweaks. So the EXPENSE of this evolution of the K3 is nearly zero, compared to the Icom path of just spending another $10k for the next iteration. 73, Tnx for your comments. Oliver Johns W6ODJ __ Elecraft mailing list Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm Post: mailto:Elecraft@mailman.qth.net This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html
Re: [Elecraft] K3 FSK RTTY
Welcome to the K3 world Jim. I have used the one transistor interface from the MMTTY "help files" built into a "D" plug. It uses 1 x NPN transistor (any small signal one will do), 2 x resistors and 2 x diodes. I no longer use the MMTTY program but recall not needing a PTT connection, only the FSK one (from memory the PTT can be done via serial cable, the normal one used for used for programming and logging between the PC and the K3). I have a multi serial card in my PC so there is no shortage of proper serial connections. I no longer use MMTTY, but use Ham Radio Deluxe for sound card data modes and that program only needs the serial cable and 2 x 3.5mm stereo cables between sound card and K3 (the audio input on the K3 is "mono" but the stereo cables work just fine). Above all else, there is no need to rush out buying interfaces... 73 Dave, G4AON K3/100 #80 - I have a K3 on it's way form Aptos that will arrive Tuesday, Sept 8th.would have here today except for a minor hiccup. But, not complainingjust a lesson in patience. I've been worrying over the assembly and operating manual the last few days. I like to contest using FSK RTTY. Looks like the only way to get the FSK from the computer to the radio is through the Accessory port on the radio. Looks like there are several other functions that go through the connector. The manual seems a little shy on how to gather all the data from apparently several locations and get it into the connector. Is there a cable available to do that or is one left to their own to fabricate such a spiderweb thing. I applaud the built in interface isolation transformers only to find myself faced with having to engineer and build a break out cable that connects among several pieces of hardware. Do I have this thing all wrong or do I need to start contemplating building a breakout cable? Thanks for any help. Have a good day and 73. Jim, W0EM __ Elecraft mailing list Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm Post: mailto:Elecraft@mailman.qth.net This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html
[Elecraft] [K2] poor IMD on barefoot K2, even at low power
Hi, I gave a test to my PSK31 setup today - barefoot K2 #5932 with M-Audio sound card in my desktop pc. My laptop pc was connected to a FT-840 and listening. Both used old good DigiPan. I let my laptop measure IMD and also asked for this value during QSOs. In all cases it's about -16dB which is very poor I beleive. The power level is set to 5W. PC sound output level was decreased so that only the first ALC bar blinks. I also tried power levels setpoint from 0.1W to 15W. IMD value changed continuosly from -19dB to -12dB. Anything I could try/check to figure out the reason of destortion? vy 73 de DL2IPU Oleg -- View this message in context: http://n2.nabble.com/poor-IMD-on-barefoot-K2-even-at-low-power-tp3598729p3598729.html Sent from the [K2] mailing list archive at Nabble.com. __ Elecraft mailing list Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm Post: mailto:Elecraft@mailman.qth.net This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html
Re: [Elecraft] [K3] MCU 3.30 DSP 2.26 and Loud Noises
Lyle, it has happened to me once after upgrading to 3.30/2.26. My AGC settings were at default and I did not have the NR on. I was on CW with my 500hz roofing filter engaged as FL2. When I pushed the filter button to go back to FL1 the noise blast hit. 73, Bill nz0t -- View this message in context: http://n2.nabble.com/MCU-3-30-DSP-2-26-tp3595335p3598590.html Sent from the [K3] mailing list archive at Nabble.com. __ Elecraft mailing list Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm Post: mailto:Elecraft@mailman.qth.net This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html
Re: [Elecraft] K3 huge noise
I was operating in the TN QSO party on 80m last night in Diversity mode with headphones on. I'm not sure what I did but I got a huge continuous blast in my right headphone. I couldn't get the headset off fast enough. I did a power on reset and it cleared. I don't remember if I pushed NR or not. The blast not only blew my right eardrum but blew any memory I had of what I was doing at that moment. I do mean Ouch! Ralph K1ZZI Date: Sun, 6 Sep 2009 14:54:43 -0700 From: "DAVID M. Elliott" Subject: Re: [Elecraft] K3 huge noise To: "Eric Swartz -WA6HHQ, Elecraft" Cc: mark roz , elecraft@mailman.qth.net Message-ID: <80b60cfb-c93a-4b00-83dc-921ecf12f...@earthlink.net> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII; format=flowed; delsp=yes Lyle hasn't got it yet!! Firmware 3.30 -- using NR (3-4) on SSB (14.178), first the volume control did not work then after a little while the K3 goes to full volume and only turning it off gets rid of the problem. THIS IS A SERIOUS PROBLEM!!! Hearing loss could result. Please got on this ASAP. 73 de W6BK On Aug 30, 2009, at 10:08 PM, Eric Swartz -WA6HHQ, Elecraft wrote: > Lyle just figured this out and corrected a typo in the dsp code. We > should have a new beta shortly - Hopefully before end of Monday. > > (This is why we release beta test versions. ;-) > > 73, Eric > > > mark roz wrote: >> Almost lost my hearing. >> Loaded 3.27A. NR engaged. F1-1. VFO A CW on 40m. VFO B SSB 40m. AGC >> ON. Width 250Hz cw. 2.7 ssb. >> Now switched from CW to SSB portion of 40m by pushing A/B - >> horrible noise of very high >> amplitude on speaker or headphones. Turned down the volume to min. >> and in few few seconds >> it stopped. Than again the same thing happened 70% of the time. >> This only happens if NR is engaged on A and B VFO and while >> switching from A to B. >> Just did it again-now on the internal speaker. Wow!! it is loud. >> Will not use NR for now. >> Anybody else can duplicate this?? >> >> Beside that I like my new K3 a lot. This is my second K3. >> Mark wq7x __ Elecraft mailing list Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm Post: mailto:Elecraft@mailman.qth.net This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html
Re: [Elecraft] K3 Headset
Go to your local audio store and get a Sony MDR-V150 for little less than 20 bucks and those will last forever and sound better than the Heil ones,that's what I have been using for about 8 years now. AD4C "The difference between genius and stupidity is that genius has its limits". -- Albert Einstein --- On Mon, 9/7/09, Ken Waites wrote: From: Ken Waites Subject: [Elecraft] K3 Headset To: elecraft@mailman.qth.net Date: Monday, September 7, 2009, 4:13 PM I am done with Heil headsets. I have had 3 that had failures in the wiring, impossible to fix on my own. Headphones: SONY MDR 7506, Elecraft hand mike. __ Elecraft mailing list Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm Post: mailto:Elecraft@mailman.qth.net This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html __ Elecraft mailing list Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm Post: mailto:Elecraft@mailman.qth.net This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html
[Elecraft] K2 loaded, $800.00
Hello all, The K2 is still for sale, Now only $800.00!! I am wanting to buy a K3 and need to sell my loaded K2. The serial # is 3644. I have used the rig for receive only as I never finished the transmitter alignment. My ears could not discern a difference in tone. The soldering is professional. The options have never been installed, they are: KSB2 - assembled K160RX - assembled KNB2 - assembled KIO2 - assembled KAF2 - assembled KAT2 - still in kit form all torids wound by "The Torid Guy" I have a non smoking environment and the rig is in excellent condition. I am asking $800.00, shipping is FREE to continental US. I can take credit cards (MasterCard, visa or discover) through my company, Penninger Radio ( www.PenningerRadio.com ) please reply off list to char...@penningerradio.com 73 and thanks for the bandwidth. Charles Penninger, KC9DAO ^ ^ __ Elecraft mailing list Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm Post: mailto:Elecraft@mailman.qth.net This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html
[Elecraft] K3 Headset
I am done with Heil headsets. I have had 3 that had failures in the wiring, impossible to fix on my own. Headphones: SONY MDR 7506, Elecraft hand mike. __ Elecraft mailing list Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm Post: mailto:Elecraft@mailman.qth.net This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html
Re: [Elecraft] MCU 3.30 DSP 2.26 and Loud Noises
Lyle, Most of us understand that we are beta testers and what our responsibilities in that role are. We appreciate what you are doing and I will repeat again that the new NR function is awesome -- better than anything else out there by a lot. We are all anxious to help solve the noise problem. In my case, the noise blast was preceded by a period of time (several minutes) when the volume control did not work. I had it turned to minimum and could still hear the signals at normal volume. When I tried to fix that by twiddling the volume control and/or adjusting the NR settings, the noise blast happened. Thanks again for working on the holiday weekend. 73 de W6BK On Sep 7, 2009, at 8:41 AM, Lyle Johnson wrote: > If anyone experiences a "loud noise blast" from your K3 when running > the > latest Beta code, it would help us immensely if you could supply the > following information: > > > 1) Was NR in use? > > 2) If so, what was the NR setting (NR ADJ value) > > 3) Does the noise go away if NR is turned off? > > 4) What were your AGC Threshold and Slope settings? (CONFIG:AGC THR > and > CONFIG AGC SLP) > > 5) Band, mode, roofing filter? > > > Please accept my apologies for this. Believe me, I *want* to find the > gremlin! Why else would I be asking about this on a holiday weekend? > > Thank you for your patience with helping test this K3 Beta code, > > Lyle KK7P > > __ > Elecraft mailing list > Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft > Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm > Post: mailto:Elecraft@mailman.qth.net > > This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net > Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html __ Elecraft mailing list Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm Post: mailto:Elecraft@mailman.qth.net This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html
[Elecraft] MCU 3.30 DSP 2.26 and Loud Noises
If anyone experiences a "loud noise blast" from your K3 when running the latest Beta code, it would help us immensely if you could supply the following information: 1) Was NR in use? 2) If so, what was the NR setting (NR ADJ value) 3) Does the noise go away if NR is turned off? 4) What were your AGC Threshold and Slope settings? (CONFIG:AGC THR and CONFIG AGC SLP) 5) Band, mode, roofing filter? Please accept my apologies for this. Believe me, I *want* to find the gremlin! Why else would I be asking about this on a holiday weekend? Thank you for your patience with helping test this K3 Beta code, Lyle KK7P __ Elecraft mailing list Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm Post: mailto:Elecraft@mailman.qth.net This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html
Re: [Elecraft] MCU 3.30 DSP 2.26
Yeah, I guess that sometimes we forget what the role of a beta tester is. It's not to be the first one to have the new software. When you are a beta tester, which you are if you load beta software, your role and responsibility is to report problems and not to complain about them. No software, newly written, is bug free and sometimes those bugs can be downright annoying but that's what beta testers are for. 73, Ted, W2ZK .k8dd. wrote: > You're right - the 3.30/2.26 NR, although it is slow, it is really good > once you find the setting that works best for the situation. And > although it cannot be readily duplicated, it is still a problem that > would most likely cause those who have had it happen to see it as a > major problem, > and not use that MCU/DSP set. I know it has changed my thoughts on > trying the "latest & greatest" beta firmware! > > 73HankK8DD > > > K9ZTV wrote: > >> The NR on SSB is spectacular in the latest version with no volume >> problems. By the way, the original poster says he has been unable to >> duplicate the problem, nor can Lyle. >> >> Kent K9ZTV >> >> >> >> .k8dd. wrote: >> >>> I was wondering about the reports of maximum volume audio reports on the >>> latest firmware. >>> For the "Everybody Loves Raymond" fans - Frank's famous line sums it up: >>> "Holy Crap" >>> During sending an exchange in the TN QSO Party - pure noise, loud and no >>> signals. Lost the QSO, almost broke the boom mike getting the headset >>> off, spilled beer on the keyboard (but I have a couple spares) and >>> couldn't hear for a few minutes. >>> Loaded my last beta. >>> 73HankK8DD >>> >>> > > > FREE 3D MARINE AQUARIUM SCREENSAVER - Watch dolphins, sharks & orcas on your > desktop! > Check it out at http://www.inbox.com/marineaquarium > __ > Elecraft mailing list > Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft > Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm > Post: mailto:Elecraft@mailman.qth.net > > This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net > Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html > > __ Elecraft mailing list Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm Post: mailto:Elecraft@mailman.qth.net This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html
Re: [Elecraft] MCU 3.30 DSP 2.26
You're right - the 3.30/2.26 NR, although it is slow, it is really good once you find the setting that works best for the situation. And although it cannot be readily duplicated, it is still a problem that would most likely cause those who have had it happen to see it as a major problem, and not use that MCU/DSP set. I know it has changed my thoughts on trying the "latest & greatest" beta firmware! 73HankK8DD K9ZTV wrote: > The NR on SSB is spectacular in the latest version with no volume > problems. By the way, the original poster says he has been unable to > duplicate the problem, nor can Lyle. > > Kent K9ZTV > > > > .k8dd. wrote: >> I was wondering about the reports of maximum volume audio reports on the >> latest firmware. >> For the "Everybody Loves Raymond" fans - Frank's famous line sums it up: >> "Holy Crap" >> During sending an exchange in the TN QSO Party - pure noise, loud and no >> signals. Lost the QSO, almost broke the boom mike getting the headset >> off, spilled beer on the keyboard (but I have a couple spares) and >> couldn't hear for a few minutes. >> Loaded my last beta. >> 73HankK8DD >> FREE 3D MARINE AQUARIUM SCREENSAVER - Watch dolphins, sharks & orcas on your desktop! Check it out at http://www.inbox.com/marineaquarium __ Elecraft mailing list Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm Post: mailto:Elecraft@mailman.qth.net This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html
[Elecraft] K3 CW Scope Screen Shot
Digital scope screen shot of a K3's "dit" http://www.wd1v.net 73, John Seney, WD1V [fn42] http://www.wd1v.net __ Elecraft mailing list Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm Post: mailto:Elecraft@mailman.qth.net This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html
Re: [Elecraft] MCU 3.30 DSP 2.26
Make sure you CC supp...@elecraft.com when you have issues to be sure someone see the problem. I was one of the first people to report this same issue with the last revision of the beta and on my second post I included support which elicited a response on the weekend and they started working on it then. I have not had this happen since I downloaded MCU 3.30 / DSP 2.26 , and yesterday I spent sometime seeing if it would happen, didn't come close to doing at least as far as I could tell by listening to the rig, before the loud, uncontrolled noise was preceded by distinctive audio that sounded like cadisflies ( moderately high frequency oscillation), none this time. Speeds up the process you know and it is a process, thats why it is called a beta release. Sure stinks when it happens though and you are wearing the headset. Almost sounds like a feedback loop but is that possible with a digital radio? Bob KB1FRW Hector Padron wrote: > Well its been a week installed and using the radio daily has nothing > wrong,the fact that it happened to you don't mean that will happen to > us. > > AD4C > > "The difference between genius and stupidity is that genius has its limits". > -- Albert Einstein > > --- On Mon, 9/7/09, .k8dd. wrote: > > From: .k8dd. > Subject: Re: [Elecraft] MCU 3.30 DSP 2.26 > To: "Hector Padron" , "'Elecraft_List'" > > Date: Monday, September 7, 2009, 8:57 AM > > That's what I thought too - good upgrade . maybe it just has not happened > to you yet! > > 73 HankK8DD > > > Hector Padron wrote: > >> My upgrade to the latest FW 3.30 and DSP 2.26 was smooth and easy as all the >> other Beta ones and it works perfect,no distorsion,audio is practically the >> same level in all the NR settings and in some of them the noise is totally >> wiped out sounding as FM,nothing wrong on mine here. >> >> AD4C >> K3 # 2192 >> >> "The difference between genius and stupidity is that genius has its limits". >> -- Albert Einstein >> >> --- On *Mon, 9/7/09, .k8dd. //* wrote: >> >> >> From: .k8dd. >> Subject: [Elecraft] MCU 3.30 DSP 2.26 >> To: "'Elecraft_List'" >> Date: Monday, September 7, 2009, 3:47 AM >> >> I was wondering about the reports of maximum volume audio reports on >> the >> latest firmware. >> For the "Everybody Loves Raymond" fans - Frank's famous line sums it up: >> "Holy Crap" >> During sending an exchange in the TN QSO Party - pure noise, loud >> and no >> signals. Lost the QSO, almost broke the boom mike getting the headset >> off, spilled beer on the keyboard (but I have a couple spares) and >> couldn't hear for a few minutes. >> Loaded my last beta. >> 73HankK8DD >> >> >> > > > > __ > Elecraft mailing list > Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft > Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm > Post: mailto:Elecraft@mailman.qth.net > > This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net > Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html > > > __ Elecraft mailing list Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm Post: mailto:Elecraft@mailman.qth.net This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html
Re: [Elecraft] K3 FSK RTTY
There are a couple of choices. I chose to use a 15-pin Y connector and plug a microHAM cable on one side of the Y and a Top Ten Devices Band Decoder on the other. Another choice is a little breakout board with connectors for leads. And of course you can make up your own cable. All of these have been discussed on this forum. 73 de Dick, K6KR Sent from my iPhone On Sep 4, 2009, at 4:51 PM, Jim Harris wrote: > > Hi Folks, > > I have a K3 on it's way form Aptos that will arrive Tuesday, Sept > 8th.would have here today except for a minor hiccup. But, not > complainingjust a lesson in patience. I've been worrying over > the assembly and operating manual the last few days. I like to > contest using FSK RTTY. Looks like the only way to get the FSK from > the computer to the radio is through the Accessory port on the > radio. Looks like there are several other functions that go through > the connector. The manual seems a little shy on how to gather all > the data from apparently several locations and get it into the > connector. Is there a cable available to do that or is one left to > their own to fabricate such a spiderweb thing. I applaud the built > in interface isolation transformers only to find myself faced with > having to engineer and build a break out cable that connects among > several pieces of hardware. Do I have this thing all wrong or do I > need to start contemplating building a breakout cable? > > Thanks for any help. > > Have a good day and 73. > > Jim, W0EM > > > __ > Elecraft mailing list > Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft > Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm > Post: mailto:Elecraft@mailman.qth.net > > This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net > Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html __ Elecraft mailing list Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm Post: mailto:Elecraft@mailman.qth.net This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html __ Elecraft mailing list Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm Post: mailto:Elecraft@mailman.qth.net This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html
Re: [Elecraft] MCU 3.30 DSP 2.26
Well its been a week installed and using the radio daily has nothing wrong,the fact that it happened to you don't mean that will happen to us. AD4C "The difference between genius and stupidity is that genius has its limits". -- Albert Einstein --- On Mon, 9/7/09, .k8dd. wrote: From: .k8dd. Subject: Re: [Elecraft] MCU 3.30 DSP 2.26 To: "Hector Padron" , "'Elecraft_List'" Date: Monday, September 7, 2009, 8:57 AM That's what I thought too - good upgrade . maybe it just has not happened to you yet! 73 Hank K8DD Hector Padron wrote: > My upgrade to the latest FW 3.30 and DSP 2.26 was smooth and easy as all the > other Beta ones and it works perfect,no distorsion,audio is practically the > same level in all the NR settings and in some of them the noise is totally > wiped out sounding as FM,nothing wrong on mine here. > > AD4C > K3 # 2192 > > "The difference between genius and stupidity is that genius has its limits". > -- Albert Einstein > > --- On *Mon, 9/7/09, .k8dd. //* wrote: > > > From: .k8dd. > Subject: [Elecraft] MCU 3.30 DSP 2.26 > To: "'Elecraft_List'" > Date: Monday, September 7, 2009, 3:47 AM > > I was wondering about the reports of maximum volume audio reports on > the > latest firmware. > For the "Everybody Loves Raymond" fans - Frank's famous line sums it up: > "Holy Crap" > During sending an exchange in the TN QSO Party - pure noise, loud > and no > signals. Lost the QSO, almost broke the boom mike getting the headset > off, spilled beer on the keyboard (but I have a couple spares) and > couldn't hear for a few minutes. > Loaded my last beta. > 73 Hank K8DD > > __ Elecraft mailing list Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm Post: mailto:Elecraft@mailman.qth.net This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html
Re: [Elecraft] MCU 3.30 DSP 2.26
Fix needed? This happened to me during the TN QSO party - I was on 80 cw trying to adjust the antenna tuner when it hit - it was loud - no volume control, no signals - Thank God I wasn't running my headset thought it was going to blow the speaker. I shut rig off and turned it back on and proceeded with my QSO! Doesn't appear to be any long term affect? This happened on my first K3 - was running SO1R 73 de Bill N4ZI K3 # 1059 & K3 #2914 --- On Sun, 9/6/09, .k8dd. wrote: From: .k8dd. Subject: [Elecraft] MCU 3.30 DSP 2.26 To: "'Elecraft_List'" Date: Sunday, September 6, 2009, 10:47 PM I was wondering about the reports of maximum volume audio reports on the latest firmware. For the "Everybody Loves Raymond" fans - Frank's famous line sums it up: "Holy Crap" During sending an exchange in the TN QSO Party - pure noise, loud and no signals. Lost the QSO, almost broke the boom mike getting the headset off, spilled beer on the keyboard (but I have a couple spares) and couldn't hear for a few minutes. Loaded my last beta. 73 Hank K8DD FREE 3D MARINE AQUARIUM SCREENSAVER - Watch dolphins, sharks & orcas on your desktop! Check it out at http://www.inbox.com/marineaquarium __ Elecraft mailing list Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm Post: mailto:Elecraft@mailman.qth.net This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html __ Elecraft mailing list Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm Post: mailto:Elecraft@mailman.qth.net This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html
Re: [Elecraft] MCU 3.30 DSP 2.26
John wrote: > At 09:47 PM 06/09/09, you wrote: >> spilled beer on the keyboard (but I have a couple spares) > > referring to beers I hope. > > k7up > Fortunately both. 73HankK8DD Receive Notifications of Incoming Messages Easily monitor multiple email accounts & access them with a click. Visit http://www.inbox.com/notifier and check it out! __ Elecraft mailing list Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm Post: mailto:Elecraft@mailman.qth.net This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html
Re: [Elecraft] MCU 3.30 DSP 2.26
That's what I thought too - good upgrade . maybe it just has not happened to you yet! 73 HankK8DD Hector Padron wrote: > My upgrade to the latest FW 3.30 and DSP 2.26 was smooth and easy as all > the other Beta ones and it works perfect,no distorsion,audio is > practically the same level in all the NR settings and in some of them > the noise is totally wiped out sounding as FM,nothing wrong on mine here. > > AD4C > K3 # 2192 > > "The difference between genius and stupidity is that genius has its > limits". -- Albert Einstein > > --- On *Mon, 9/7/09, .k8dd. //* wrote: > > > From: .k8dd. > Subject: [Elecraft] MCU 3.30 DSP 2.26 > To: "'Elecraft_List'" > Date: Monday, September 7, 2009, 3:47 AM > > I was wondering about the reports of maximum volume audio reports on > the > latest firmware. > For the "Everybody Loves Raymond" fans - Frank's famous line sums it up: > "Holy Crap" > During sending an exchange in the TN QSO Party - pure noise, loud > and no > signals. Lost the QSO, almost broke the boom mike getting the headset > off, spilled beer on the keyboard (but I have a couple spares) and > couldn't hear for a few minutes. > Loaded my last beta. > 73HankK8DD > > __ Elecraft mailing list Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm Post: mailto:Elecraft@mailman.qth.net This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html
