Re: [Elecraft] Split reminder

[Radio Amateur N5GE]

On Mon, 19 Oct 2009 20:49:16 +0200, "vidi"  wrote:

>Hi DX chasers
>In chasing DX have been caught napping a few times, when I forgot to select 
>'split' and had to be reminded by someone on the DX freq about the blunder. 
>I was wondering if there is a way to more clearly show that  'split' is 
>activated.   How about, in addition to the TX arrow pointing to B,  also 
>flash the [B] VFO sign at say 2/sec to show and remind  that 'split'  is 
>active.
>Red face Vidi - ZS1EL
> 
[snip]

Can you not see the encircled [SPLT] just to the left of the TX with
the pointer pointing at the B VFO indicating that it is the Transmit
VFO, the inverse of which is, You ain't in split mode?

73,

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Re: [Elecraft] K2 with HRD freq wanders

[eric norris]

Dear Don and Elecrafters:

With KUSB I get the jumping freq display described earlier.  When I switch to 
my older Keyspan Serial Adapter, the freq readout on HRD stays rock solid--BUT 
the K2 then displays the freq, then the power, then the freq...at odd 
intervals.  The power number is going up and down by itself.  When I transmit 
with PWR set to 7 watts, I get a HI CURR message, the proper number of bars 
light up BUT the three bars to the right of those are half lit!  I've never 
seen that before.  When I disconnect the serial cable and kill HRD the K2 
behaves like its usual marvelous self.  

What is going on?

When I first built the K2 about 6 months ago I tested it with the Keyspan 
adapter and all seemed well--but I didn't use it with a computer after that.

73, Eric WD6DBM



- Original Message 
From: Don Wilhelm 
To: Eric 
Cc: "elecraft@mailman.qth.net" 
Sent: Mon, October 19, 2009 6:04:53 PM
Subject: Re: [Elecraft] K2 with HRD freq wanders

Eric,

While that test may indicate the failure is in the K2, as "Sportin' Life" from 
Porgy & Bess says "It ain't necessarily so".
If you have another USB to Serial converter available, try that first.

73,
Don WFPR

Eric wrote:
> Dear Don: 
> I should have mentioned that the same computer, cable, USB converter works 
> fine with the TS-480 connected to HRD.  I think it must be in the K2.
> 
> 73
> 
> Eric WD6DBM
>  

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Re: [Elecraft] K3 Firmware 3.44

[Jan Erik Holm]

On AM this has always been, at least on my unit SNR around 1500.
This K3 radio sure has a lot of artifacts.

/ SM2EKM

Mike wrote:
> I noticed it in the AM broadcast band (.690), regardless of NR. There's 
> a tiny bit of it on the low end of 160M also. I'd describe it as if the 
> BW control had a pawl, or detent.
> #3539
> 
> Mike, NF4L
> 
> Elliott Lawrence wrote:
>> I installed the latest 3.44 firmware and the associated DSP firmware 
>> yesterday.  The install went without a problem although I am always a bit 
>> anxious at the completion bars slowly march across the screen!
>>
>> I've noticed with the NR engaged and the BW control being adjusted that the 
>> audio blanks as each step occurs (a popping sound). I don't remember that 
>> being there with my previous version 3.3.  The blanking does not occur with 
>> the NR off. It just smoothly changes the bandwidth.
>>
>> Does anyone else notice this condition?  Is it a function of the changes 
>> made to eliminate the audio screech? So far everything else seems to be 
>> functioning OK.
>>
>> 73
>> Elliott WA6TLA K3 S/N 3381 
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[Elecraft] K2-- Auto Tuner Issue

[KM4VX]

My AT has suddenly started showing "LO PO" after displaying the SWR on all
bands when the TUNE button is pressed. I have the AT set to "AUTO" and even
when manually increasing the power I still get the "LO PO" display after the
K2 displays the SWR. Changing antennas has no effect. Ths is K2 serial
number 6255 which otherwise seems to be working fine. Welcome any ideas.
Thanks.
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[Elecraft] Just built K2 and finals seem to be oscillating...

[C. J. Hawley]

I just finished this K2 rev A with most all mods incl B and cannot do the 
transmitter alignment. 
The finals seem to be oscillating at about 450 KHz on all bands.
The power goes to max (17 watts), the current goes to 3 amps, on the Bird meter 
(50 watt slug) I get about 13 watts showing. The frequency on the scope (and 
aux counter) appears to be about 450 KHz. I get this frequency on W6 (about 5 
vpp and as well larger at the collector of Q6 (about 25vpp) and of course at 
the collectors of the finals but with a lot of ringing at a higher frequency 
and at the input to the low pass filters, about 40 vpp...same on all bands.
I've checked the transformers, etc for wiring and they appear to be ok.
No shorts on the final collectors, etc. Kind of looking for some previous 
experience with this or some idea of where to go.

I also have the latest firmware, rev 2.04 and have no side tone. With the 
firmware from March 2000, rev 1.04 I have sidetone. The instructions (various 
years) say the side tone comes from U8 pin 4, I get ac voltage there, the menu 
says U8-4, but no sound.

Thanks, 
Chuck
KE9UW
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Re: [Elecraft] Split reminder

[The Smiths]

Okay fair enough, don't have it blink... Have the display change freq. like 
most other rigs out there.. that's what I was after in the first place.. LOL.. 
Or I guess you could at least blink the little B (or the arrow) indicating that 
you're in a split mode. I'm just after something to Draw the attention to the 
user so they know they're still in that mode.  
 
> CC: elecraft@mailman.qth.net
> From: jp...@jeffnet.org
> To: notforc...@hotmail.com
> Subject: Re: [Elecraft] Split reminder
> Date: Mon, 19 Oct 2009 14:21:23 -0700
> 
> With all due respect, it's not the SAME EXACT indication.
> 
> When RIT is on and you're not in split mode:
> 1). The RIT indicator on the LCD is on. The SPLT indicator is off.
> 2). The TX arrow on the LCD is pointing to A
> 3). One of the LEDs above the RIT knob is lit.
> 4). The delta-F LED on the left hand side is lit.
> 
> When in split mode and with RIT off:
> 1). The SPLT indicator on the LCD is on. The RIT indicator is off.
> 2). The TX arrow on the LCD is pointing to B
> 3). All the LEDs above the RIT knob are dark
> 4). The delta-F LED on the left hand side is lit.
> 
> 1 out of 4 indications is the same. The other 3 are different.
> 
> Plus, what would you have the delta-F LED do if you have RIT on while 
> in SPLIT mode?
> 
> 73
> --
> Joe KB8AP
> 
> 
> On Oct 19, 2009, at 1:38 PM, The Smiths wrote:
> 
> > As we already agreed, the RIT can put this rig into the SAME EXACT 
> > indication that it's in Split mode. Actually fooling the user.
> >
> 
  
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Re: [Elecraft] Feature request

[The Smiths]

Actually Martin, I do use the RIT with the Split mode.  Here's why:

Some times when you're listening to the DX station, and other start 
transmitting on top of him, it's nice to RIT away from his beat Freq. up or 
down a little so that you can move the shift knob over +/- and get rid of those 
other people.  Or just improve the ability to hear a weak signal once you've 
used the "auto spot" feature.

 

Although you're idea isn't all that bad, assuming it's off..
 
> From: hamra...@vr-web.de
> To: elecraft@mailman.qth.net
> Date: Mon, 19 Oct 2009 23:11:41 +0200
> Subject: [Elecraft] Feature request
> 
> What do you elecrafters think about this:
> 
> 1. When you are running SPLIT ( assuming RIT & XIT are OFF), tapping CLR
> puts the RX-VFO to the same frequency as the TX-VFO (TX). No one would
> run SPLIT and use RIT and/or XIT simultaneously, would you?
> 
> 2. Or, even better: When you are running SPLIT, tapping CLR puts your
> RX-VFO a (config)-selectable number of +- khz (starting with 0 khz = no
> SPLIT) offset to your TX-VFO. This ensures that DXPeditioners or
> Contesters easily can return to their announced qsx-freq.
> 
> Sorry for the bandwidth if there is already a method to accomplish this
> in a similar way. I must have missed it then.
> 
> Martin
> 
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Re: [Elecraft] Split Reminder [END of Thread]

[Eric Swartz - WA6HHQ, Elecraft]

Lots of good input. 

Let's close this thread for now.

Eric
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-Original Message-
From: rfenab...@gmail.com
Date: Monday, Oct 19, 2009 5:04 pm
Subject: [Elecraft] Split Reminder
To: "Elecraft" Reply-To: rfenab...@gmail.com

Can we just all agree to disagree and move on please?

I reckon we have just about beat it to death...(:-))

Gary
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Re: [Elecraft] K2 with HRD freq wanders

[Don Wilhelm]

Eric,

While that test may indicate the failure is in the K2, as "Sportin' 
Life" from Porgy & Bess says "It ain't necessarily so".
If you have another USB to Serial converter available, try that first.

73,
Don WFPR

Eric wrote:
> Dear Don: 
>
> I should have mentioned that the same computer, cable, USB converter works 
> fine with the TS-480 connected to HRD.  I think it must be in the K2.
>
> 73
>
> Eric WD6DBM
>   
>
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Re: [Elecraft] Flaw in the 1.8 kHz roofing filter - Final for 2009

[Merv Schweigert]

Inrad selects the best filters for the K3,  the others which do not meet
K3 specs are sold as Yaesu filters. 
And thats the truth..
Merv KH7C 
> Personally, I find it easier to believe that Inrad fixed the problem 
> based upon Elecraft's subjective confirmation of such than I do your 
> totally subjective implication that they might be collectively and 
> intentionally lying to us.
>
> Dave   AB7E
>
>
>
> Robert Wood wrote:
>   
>> In general K3 owners bought for the high performance "numbers"
>>
>> The ARRL numbers on the dynamic range for 1.8 filter in the QST review 
>> provide "great results" but that is subjective - subjective.  Far below 
>> expected numbers even if it is better then Brand x
>>
>> The hamfest story below is great salesman hand waving - no numbers, no 
>> reposted test results
>> To claim the problem is fixed implies that there are test results
>> or to state another way, to claim the problem is fixed without posting test 
>> results is questionable
>> I doubt the story below was in response to the ARRL article
>>
>> It's doubtful anyone will perform a retest - (ARRL certainly NOT)
>> a Retest by someone outside the firm like Sherwood, etc. would be good
>> ( although we maybe too busy reading about firmware updates.hi)
>>
>> The ARRL QST article as minimum indicates that not all xtal filters of same 
>> model are equal
>>
>> back to RF,   Robert w5aj
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>> - Original Message - 
>> From: "Fred Atchley" 
>> To: 
>> Sent: Friday, October 16, 2009 12:14 AM
>> Subject: Re: [Elecraft] Flaw in the 1.8 kHz roofing filter
>>
>>
>> At the recent Santa Barbara Hamfest, Eric addressed a problem with the 
>> early
>> filters in the K3.
>>
>> The frequency would change unexpectedly. Eventually the problem was solved
>> by cleaning.
>>
>> It was found that particles left over from the crystal manufacturing were
>> modifying the freq.
>>
>> Inrad is just down the street from Elecraft and together they resolved the
>> issue.
>>
>>
>>
>> I use the 1.8 in my K3 (#2241) with great results.
>>
>>
>>
>> 73, Fred AE6IC
>>
>>   
>> 
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Re: [Elecraft] Trojan horse warning

[Eric Swartz - WA6HHQ, Elecraft]

Did you turn on the mic bias for the front panel mic connector, as noted 
for the MH2?

73, Eric


Philip Lamarche wrote:
> Just set up k3 in mountains and connected the brand new mh2 and no  
> audio or power. Per and mike gain ok.
>
> Help!
>
> Phil. W9dvm
>
> Sent from my iPhone
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> On Oct 19, 2009, at 4:48 PM, "Ron D'Eau Claire"  wrote:
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Re: [Elecraft] Trojan horse warning

[Eric Swartz - WA6HHQ, Elecraft]

False alarm from your anti-virus scanner. We've scanned the K3 utility 
1.2.9.30 here and it is clean.

I believe the next update of AVG stops this false alarm. One of our 
other customers reported this directly to us and he noted that it went 
away with his next AVG virus database update.

73, Eric


Svend Spanget wrote:
> I just downloaded the K3 utility 1.2.9.30 from
> http://www.elecraft.com/K3/k3_software.htm#k3util.
> Now AVG displays a warning: Accessed file is infected. Trojan horse
> PSW.Banker5.ZOY
>
> Anybody else notice this?
>
> 73 de Svend, OZ7UV
>
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Re: [Elecraft] Latest FW 3.44 and the NR/Width

[Eric Swartz - WA6HHQ, Elecraft]

No need to continue reporting this. We're aware of it in the current 
beta code, 3.44, and will be addressing it in the next beta release.

Thanks for the beta feedback!

73, Eric  WA6HHQ


Roy Morris wrote:
> I also have noticed the audio blanking while shifting the WIDTH control with 
> NR engaged.  The audio blanking is most noticeable in the F1 through F4 
> settings.  I do not notice any audio blanking in the F5 through F8 settings, 
> however.  The fourth level settings in F1 through F8 are extremely low in 
> audio output.Roy Morris  W4WFB
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Re: [Elecraft] K3 Help on sending RTTY (or PSK) using Utility

[Robin Diane Goldstein]

hi Iian...  thanks for the advice...  it was spot on!

after checking the operating mode i was able to operate my K3 in both 
PSK and RTTY mode...  in fact, last night i even managed an RTTY QSO 
w/ ZL30MDG on 30m using only 35watts (i've been using my HPS-1a 
supply and it won't handle the duty rate of data modes at anything 
higher than about 40w)

so thanks to you, my first RTTY QSO, my first 30m QSO and my first 
low(er) power DX QSO!

73
robin (W6RDG)
http://www.W6RDG.com

At 1:32 PM -0700 10/17/09, Iain MacDonnell - N6ML wrote:
>On Sat, Oct 17, 2009 at 12:33 PM, Robin Diane Goldstein
> wrote:
>>  hi... a real newbie question... i'm trying to figure out how to send
>>  RTTY (or PSK) using the latest windows version of the K3 utility.
>>  i've got a laptop running Win XP connected to my K3 (with the latest
>>  beta firmware) and if i turn on the decode function i can see text
>>  scrolling in the Terminal box of the utility program (properly
>>  decoded RTTY as a matter of fact).  but if i type something into the
>>  bottom box and hit transmit (or cntl t or whathaveyou) i don't seem
>>  to be able to get my K3 to transmit.
>>
>>  i'm guessing i'm missing something obvious.
>
>Make sure you're in the "FSK D" data sub-mode. Do this by holding the
>"AFX" button, then turn the VFO B knob until you see "FSK D". If
>you're in "AFSK A" mode, you'll be able to decode RTTY, but not able
>to send with the K3 Utility.
>
> ~Iain / N6ML

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[Elecraft] Split Reminder

[rfenabled]

Can we just all agree to disagree and move on please?

I reckon we have just about beat it to death...(:-))

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Re: [Elecraft] Split reminder

[ab2tc]

Hi, 

I cmpletely agree with K2AV's observations. There is really nothing to be
fixed here. With all the indications of split mode already there, another
blinking LED is not going to make any difference. There is really no excuse
for transmitting on the wrong VFO with the K3. Yes, it happens in the heat
of the battle - we've all done it - but it's just not the K3's fault.

AB2TC - Knut

Guy, K2AV wrote:
> 
> On Mon, Oct 19, 2009 at 4:38 PM, The Smiths 
> wrote:
> 
>>
>> Again, simply blinking the Delta F light (yellow LED) instead of having
>> it
>> on solid, as obnoxious as it is, would be better than nothing when in
>> split
>> mode.
>>
> 
> I catch myself wondering if some posters have actually used the radio. I
> need to work on my cynical streak.
> 
> There is a specific [SPLT] icon when rig is operating split mode: RX on A
> and TX on B. This is accompanied by a "TX" above an arrow pointing down to
> [B] .  [SPLT] TX > [B] does not go away while using RIT or XIT.  The TX
> delta F light indicates that if you key you will not be transmitting on
> the
> VFO A frequency because of split mode or XIT.
> 
> Will changing the steady light to blinking really fix anything?  It's the
> no-light situation that needs to call attention to itself. Normal, even a
> blinking normal, will get tuned out by the mind.
> 
> I find split operation with the KRX3 to be delightful, 
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Re: [Elecraft] Frequency Memory Editor

[Dick Dievendorff]

It's a huge undertaking, but one I'm considering for a rainy day.

There's a LOT of stuff in a "memory", including the two VFO frequencies,
modes, settings of more controls than you might think, repeater offsets, the
list goes on and on.  Coming up with a reasonable editor for all this is
challenging; I'm thinking of doing it with an XML file and an external
editor (and use a schema that would look nice in Excel). 

The contents of a "memory" has changed across firmware versions.

I'm also considering it separate from the K3 Utility because I currently
don't require a prerequisite install of an XML parser.

Dick, K6KR


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From: elecraft-boun...@mailman.qth.net
[mailto:elecraft-boun...@mailman.qth.net] On Behalf Of Julian, G4ILO
Sent: Monday, October 19, 2009 3:18 PM
To: elecraft@mailman.qth.net
Subject: Re: [Elecraft] Frequency Memory Editor




Edward Dickinson, III-2 wrote:
> 
> Are the K3 frequencies accessible from outside software?  Of the various
> pieces of software for the K3 is there a frequency memory editor?
> ...something along the lines of text file editor with hooks into the K3
> frequencies or perhaps a spread sheet.
> 

To the best of my knowledge, the answer is no. There are no software
commands to directly get / set the memory contents, and trying to do it by
emulating button presses would I suspect be difficult and unreliable.

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Re: [Elecraft] Frequency Memory Editor

[Julian, G4ILO]

Edward Dickinson, III-2 wrote:
> 
> Are the K3 frequencies accessible from outside software?  Of the various
> pieces of software for the K3 is there a frequency memory editor?
> ...something along the lines of text file editor with hooks into the K3
> frequencies or perhaps a spread sheet.
> 

To the best of my knowledge, the answer is no. There are no software
commands to directly get / set the memory contents, and trying to do it by
emulating button presses would I suspect be difficult and unreliable.

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[Elecraft] [K2] Wanted: K2/NB

[Mike Donovan]

Looking for a basic K2 with NB.  Can pay via PayPal (it protects both seller
and buyer).
Please let me know what you have and at what price

Mike Donovan
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Re: [Elecraft] Trojan horse warning

[Dick Dievendorff]

Thanks, Julian.  I just tried that (apparently someone else already had),
and 0 of 41 virus scanners, including AVG 8.5.0.420, reported no threats.

Dick, K6KR


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[mailto:elecraft-boun...@mailman.qth.net] On Behalf Of Julian, G4ILO
Sent: Monday, October 19, 2009 2:54 PM
To: elecraft@mailman.qth.net
Subject: Re: [Elecraft] Trojan horse warning




Svend Spanget wrote:
> 
> I just downloaded the K3 utility 1.2.9.30 from
> http://www.elecraft.com/K3/k3_software.htm#k3util.
> Now AVG displays a warning: Accessed file is infected. Trojan horse
> PSW.Banker5.ZOY
> 
AVG is a bit notorious for false alarms (as is McAfee.) If you get an alert
on a download from a place that you would not expect to get something nasty
from, go to www.virustotal.com and get it checked by something like 44
different scanners. If several other well-known products also find something
wrong, you may have something to worry about.

-
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* KTune - http://www.g4ilo.com/ktune.html

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Re: [Elecraft] K2 with HRD freq wanders

[Julian, G4ILO]

eric norris wrote:
> 
> I should have mentioned that the same computer, cable, USB converter works
> fine with the TS-480 connected to HRD.  I think it must be in the K2.
> 
Not necessarily. The K2 can only communicate at 4800 baud. It is a well
known fact that certain USB adapters have problems at lower speeds that are
not apparent at higher ones. I have experienced problems with the K2 using
an adapter that worked fine with the K3.

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Re: [Elecraft] Trojan horse warning

[Dick Dievendorff]

I just installed AVG Anti Virus free edition on a Windows Vista Laptop and
ran a full scan. 

I installed AVG Version 9.0.686, with virus DB Version 270.14.22/2446.  I
copied a few of the most recent K3 Utility setup files (including the setup
file for K3 Utility version 1.2.9.30) into the "Documents" folder, and I
installed K3 Utility version 1.2.9.30.  I then ran a full AVG scan.  It
reported warnings on seven tracking cookies (unrelated to K3 Utility), but
no reports of a Trojan Horse, and no warnings of anything related to the K3
Utility setup or executable files.

I uninstalled 1.2.9.30, and then copied the setup exe
K3_Utility_Setup_1_2_9_30.exe from the Elecraft Web server and scanned that.


No report of a Trojan Horse. No threats of any kind reported.

I installed version 1.2.9.30 from that setup file and scanned the installed
K3Util.exe.  

No report of a Trojan Horse.  No threats of any kind reported.

Dick, K6KR
 

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[mailto:elecraft-boun...@mailman.qth.net] On Behalf Of Dick Dievendorff
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To: 'Svend Spanget'; elecraft@mailman.qth.net
Subject: Re: [Elecraft] Trojan horse warning

I've seen one other report of this.

I just did a full scan of my development system with Microsoft Security
Essentials.  That file is in my file system. No threats were found.

That of course doesn't guarantee that AVG is finding something that
Microsoft Security Essentials doesn't.

I didn't deliberately install any Trojan horses into the K3 Utility
executable.

I'm using firewalls, sound practices, and a frequent anti virus scan on my
development machine. 

I suspect this is a "false positive" from AVG. 

I'll install AVG on another machine to see what it says. I just this last
week moved all my machines to Microsoft Security Essentials...

Dick, K6KR


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To: elecraft@mailman.qth.net
Subject: [Elecraft] Trojan horse warning

I just downloaded the K3 utility 1.2.9.30 from
http://www.elecraft.com/K3/k3_software.htm#k3util.
Now AVG displays a warning: Accessed file is infected. Trojan horse
PSW.Banker5.ZOY

Anybody else notice this?

73 de Svend, OZ7UV




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[Elecraft] Transceiver Project

[Mike Harris]

G'day,

A few weeks ago someone posted a link to tranceiver project that had 
R&S connections.  Unfortunately I didn't save it.  I would be 
grateful if you could send me the link.

regards,

Mike VP8NO 

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Re: [Elecraft] Trojan horse warning

[Julian, G4ILO]

Svend Spanget wrote:
> 
> I just downloaded the K3 utility 1.2.9.30 from
> http://www.elecraft.com/K3/k3_software.htm#k3util.
> Now AVG displays a warning: Accessed file is infected. Trojan horse
> PSW.Banker5.ZOY
> 
AVG is a bit notorious for false alarms (as is McAfee.) If you get an alert
on a download from a place that you would not expect to get something nasty
from, go to www.virustotal.com and get it checked by something like 44
different scanners. If several other well-known products also find something
wrong, you may have something to worry about.

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Re: [Elecraft] Split reminder

[Guy Olinger K2AV]

On Mon, Oct 19, 2009 at 4:38 PM, The Smiths  wrote:

>
> Again, simply blinking the Delta F light (yellow LED) instead of having it
> on solid, as obnoxious as it is, would be better than nothing when in split
> mode.
>

I catch myself wondering if some posters have actually used the radio. I
need to work on my cynical streak.

There is a specific [SPLT] icon when rig is operating split mode: RX on A
and TX on B. This is accompanied by a "TX" above an arrow pointing down to
[B] .  [SPLT] TX > [B] does not go away while using RIT or XIT.  The TX
delta F light indicates that if you key you will not be transmitting on the
VFO A frequency because of split mode or XIT.

Will changing the steady light to blinking really fix anything?  It's the
no-light situation that needs to call attention to itself. Normal, even a
blinking normal, will get tuned out by the mind.

I find split operation with the KRX3 to be delightful, using a pair of
speakers and being able to listen to both the DX and the pile
simultaneously. Even without the KRX3, holding down REV and tuning the knob
with thumb to find TX frequency and release to transmit split, works very
well.

However, there is no remedy for my showing up on a frequency stupid and/or
careless, no matter how I wish Aptos could have built in an idiot operator
auto-disable mode to save me embarassment. Alas, I have done my share of TX
on the DX frequency, with noone but myself to blame. Radio has no way of
knowing that I should be transmitting split.

While the K3 scheme is fairly unlike my MP, I found that once the functions
are learned and put together for different situations, that the K3
combinations are very powerful and quick.

It's always me that's the problem, not the radio.

73, Guy.
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Re: [Elecraft] Split reminder

[Joe Planisky]

With all due respect, it's not the SAME EXACT indication.

When RIT is on and you're not in split mode:
 1). The RIT indicator on the LCD is on.  The SPLT indicator is off.
 2). The TX arrow on the LCD is pointing to A
 3). One of the LEDs above the RIT knob is lit.
 4). The delta-F LED on the left hand side is lit.

When in split mode and with RIT off:
 1). The SPLT indicator on the LCD is on.  The RIT indicator is off.
 2). The TX arrow on the LCD is pointing to B
 3). All the LEDs above the RIT knob are dark
 4). The delta-F LED on the left hand side is lit.

1 out of 4 indications is the same.  The other 3 are different.

Plus, what would you have the delta-F LED do if you have RIT on while  
in SPLIT mode?

73
--
Joe KB8AP


On Oct 19, 2009, at 1:38 PM, The Smiths wrote:

> As we already agreed, the RIT can put this rig into the SAME EXACT  
> indication that it's in Split mode.  Actually fooling the user.
>

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Re: [Elecraft] Trojan horse warning

[Philip Lamarche]

Just set up k3 in mountains and connected the brand new mh2 and no  
audio or power. Per and mike gain ok.

Help!

Phil. W9dvm

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On Oct 19, 2009, at 4:48 PM, "Ron D'Eau Claire"  wrote:

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[Elecraft] Feature request

[Martin Schmiedel]

What do you elecrafters think about this:

1. When you are running SPLIT ( assuming RIT & XIT are OFF), tapping CLR
puts the RX-VFO to the same frequency as the TX-VFO (TX). No one would
run SPLIT and use RIT and/or XIT simultaneously, would you?

2. Or, even better: When you are running SPLIT, tapping CLR puts your
RX-VFO a (config)-selectable number of +- khz (starting with 0 khz = no
SPLIT) offset to your TX-VFO. This ensures that  DXPeditioners or
Contesters easily can return to their announced qsx-freq.

Sorry for the bandwidth if there is already a method to accomplish this
in a similar way. I must have missed it then.

Martin
   

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Re: [Elecraft] K3 Firmware 3.44

[Mike]

I noticed it in the AM broadcast band (.690), regardless of NR. There's 
a tiny bit of it on the low end of 160M also. I'd describe it as if the 
BW control had a pawl, or detent.
#3539

Mike, NF4L

Elliott Lawrence wrote:
> I installed the latest 3.44 firmware and the associated DSP firmware 
> yesterday.  The install went without a problem although I am always a bit 
> anxious at the completion bars slowly march across the screen!
>
> I've noticed with the NR engaged and the BW control being adjusted that the 
> audio blanks as each step occurs (a popping sound). I don't remember that 
> being there with my previous version 3.3.  The blanking does not occur with 
> the NR off. It just smoothly changes the bandwidth.
>
> Does anyone else notice this condition?  Is it a function of the changes 
> made to eliminate the audio screech? So far everything else seems to be 
> functioning OK.
>
> 73
> Elliott WA6TLA K3 S/N 3381 
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Re: [Elecraft] [K3] Latest FW 3.44 and the NR/WIDTH

[Hector Padron]

I back him up as well,I say excellent answer !!
 
AD4C
 


"For a refined ham it is compulsory to own a k3"

--- On Mon, 10/19/09, Mike  wrote:


From: Mike 
Subject: Re: [Elecraft] [K3] Latest FW 3.44 and the NR/WIDTH
To: "Julian, G4ILO" 
Cc: elecraft@mailman.qth.net
Date: Monday, October 19, 2009, 10:51 AM


Well said!

Mike NF4L

Julian, G4ILO wrote:
> This is beta firmware. People are being invited to test it. This is a two way
> process. If people are being invited to test software, they feel involved in
> the development process and also feel entitled to make suggestions for
> improvements. It's only natural that their suggestions reflect their
> personal interests. It's up to the guys at Elecraft to sort the totally
> bonkers suggestions from the ones that help make the K3 better, and I think
> they are doing a good job of that.
>
> Just remember, all the people who are spending valuable operating time
> downloading and beta testing firmware are helping make a smoother upgrade
> experience for all those who choose to wait for a final release.
>
> -
> Julian, G4ILO. K2 #392  K3 #222.
> * G4ILO's Shack - http://www.g4ilo.com
> * KComm - http://www.g4ilo.com/kcomm.html
> * KTune - http://www.g4ilo.com/ktune.html
>
>   

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Re: [Elecraft] Trojan horse warning

[Ron D'Eau Claire]

Svend, I also have AVG (ver 8.5.421) with current virus files loaded. Seeing
your message I downloaded the file from Elecraft, then I had AVG do a
stand-alone scan of the file for any issues and it reported it clean, both
during the initial download and with the subsequent scan.

It must have been a "false positive" on your system for some reason. 

FWIW, I have used AVG for a number of years and found it excellent. In my
work I download and exchange files with many "strange" sources (my clients)
and, while AVG occasionally quarantines an infected, it's never let a virus
or Trojan through. 

Nor has it ever found anything wrong with a file from Elecraft. 

73, 

Ron AC7AC



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[mailto:elecraft-boun...@mailman.qth.net] On Behalf Of Svend Spanget
Sent: Monday, October 19, 2009 12:37 PM
To: elecraft@mailman.qth.net
Subject: [Elecraft] Trojan horse warning

I just downloaded the K3 utility 1.2.9.30 from
http://www.elecraft.com/K3/k3_software.htm#k3util.
Now AVG displays a warning: Accessed file is infected. Trojan horse
PSW.Banker5.ZOY

Anybody else notice this?

73 de Svend, OZ7UV


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Re: [Elecraft] K3 Split reminder

[Gary Hinson]

> There is just so much any manufacturer can do to protect an operator

> from him or herself. The K3 already has the delta f light, the SPLIT

> indicator on the display (TU W2ZK - I'd forgotten that) and 
> frequency  
> readout for both VFOs. As one who has made his share of errors with

> the K3 and other radios, there is simply no substitute for just  
> learning how to use any radio. 

True, and it seems I'm still learning!  I like the arrangement on the
TS850 and similar radios which have a set of TX and RX buttons for VFO
A and VFO B, with LED indicators for the active VFO.  Visually, it's
easy to select the split.  The K3's smaller display and control panel
make this harder, but not impossible.  I'm just retraining my eyes to
spot the new clues.  Maybe turning up the LED brightness will help
(Menu -> LED BRT) but I support the idea of making the delta-F LED
flash in true split mode (not just with RIT/XIT).

I usually get it wrong having excitedly QSYd to a spot frequency on
DXcluster: the rig defaults to no-split, naturally.  I normally
remember to tweak VFO B up 1 (or whatever) and set the sub-RX to
listen there, but sometimes I neglect to hit-and-hold the split button
as well.  That's quite a lot of buttons to press in a hurry.

So FWIW I also vote for an "instant split" function, i.e. if I hold
the split button, I'd like VFO B to shift up/down by a configurable
and ideally mode- and maybe even band-dependent offset from VFO A and
also turn on the sub RX [if fitted] on VFO B.  

[Yes, this would of course be an optional, configurable,
take-it-or-leave-it change to suit those of you who don't like *my*
defaults!]

In the absense of a firmware fix for this, maybe someone can figure
out a way to make the logging program send the relevant commands to
the K3 from one button press, or just whenever I click a cluster spot
(since most spottees are operating split)?  

> The real problem with split errors is the insidious nastiness of the

> cops when a quick "RSE up" will do (and the DX isn't TX!), or 
> perhaps  
> a Talk cluster message that no one else sees. Either would be 
> far less  
> disruptive.

Absolutely.  See http://www.k6sgh.com/splitpolice.htm  :-)   4U1UN on
30m was wiped out by an EA caller this morning, who I think was
calling another lower station on split.  The cops who sent "UP UP UP
UP IDIOT" etc., several times each, made a simple problem worse since
the EA was evidently not listening on his TX freq (another good reason
for the instant-split function to also set the sub-RX on VFO B).

73
Gary  ZL2iFB

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Re: [Elecraft] Split reminder

[The Smiths]

I'm not sure that this is a case of the manufacture having to "protect" the 
opertor from him or herself.. but more of a matter of intuitivenes.  
You've also forgotten the fact that we have the CWT text reading mode, and that 
your VFO B display could easily be covered up by text from incoming code, or 
random noise.  Which is usually the case in the way I operate my rig.


The rig could easily give a notice of different modes.  Again, 99.99% of the 
other rigs out there will change the display of the VFO when it is in transmit 
mode on a split freq.  As we already agreed, the RIT can put this rig into the 
SAME EXACT indication that it's in Split mode.  Actually fooling the user.  

You and I both know that the display changes when the K3 has the RIT ON, and 
moved off VFO A's Freq.  Changing the display to do the same in split mode , 
one would then be able to look at the Green RIT led to see if they had the RIT 
on, OR the little arrow pointing to the B VFO if you had the SPLIT mode on. 
There could be no other confusion as to why the display keep changing.

The display changing is more common sense to those using the rig.  I'm actually 
more curious if this is simply a way that Wayne has decided to try and 
differentiate his radio from the others out there.. at the disadvantage of the 
users that forget what mode they are in...

Again, simply blinking the Delta F light (yellow LED) instead of having it on 
solid, as obnoxious as it is, would be better than nothing when in split mode.


 


 
> From: wb6r...@mac.com
> To: elecraft@mailman.qth.net
> Date: Mon, 19 Oct 2009 13:06:08 -0700
> Subject: Re: [Elecraft] Split reminder
> 
> 
> On Oct 19, 2009, at 12:34 PM, The Smiths wrote:
> 
> This is true, but what happens when you operate your rig like I do, 
> and you keep your RIT on.
> _
> 
> There is just so much any manufacturer can do to protect an operator 
> from him or herself. The K3 already has the delta f light, the SPLIT 
> indicator on the display (TU W2ZK - I'd forgotten that) and frequency 
> readout for both VFOs. As one who has made his share of errors with 
> the K3 and other radios, there is simply no substitute for just 
> learning how to use any radio. I've been puzzled more than a few times 
> by the K3 only to find the answer with RTFM.
> 
> The real problem with split errors is the insidious nastiness of the 
> cops when a quick "RSE up" will do (and the DX isn't TX!), or perhaps 
> a Talk cluster message that no one else sees. Either would be far less 
> disruptive.
> 
> 73! Steve WB6RSE
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Re: [Elecraft] Flaw in the 1.8 kHz roofing filter - Final for 2009

[Ron D'Eau Claire]

Dave W7AQK wrote:

Sometimes they may drag their feet a bit, but that's usually to allow 
themselves time to really verify that the problem does exist.  Nobody is 
perfect, but you have to look long and hard to find a company that has been 
more forthright about issues, or more active in resolving them.  Some might 
think they are overly aggressive about it, as when they focus on issues 
that, at least some of us, don't think are issues at all!  I guess that's 
good though!  It makes you better realize just how versatile the radio is.

--
Dave makes excellent points - 

Fixing a 'glitch' is seldom as easy as it sounds (or, once done, as simple
as it looks). Often the underlying problem is not obvious, but hidden far
from the symptom. And then there's the issue of making sure that changing
something to fix it won't "break" something else. It becomes complicated
fast. 

I choose the people (and the companies they run) who I'll associate with not
by whether they make mistakes but rather by how they handle their mistakes. 

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Re: [Elecraft] Flaw in the 1.8 kHz roofing filter - Final for 2009

[Geoffrey Mackenzie-Kennedy]

Dave,

Before I list a couple of home truths, may I say that I agree with your 
comment.

1)
The IMDDR3 data  from ARRL and others is a report of the receiver's IMDDR3 
performance, not that of the filter's IMDDR3 performance. The data does 
provide some indication that the IMDDR3 performance of filter "A" might be 
"worse" than that of filter "B", "C" or "D", but filter "A" itself might not 
be the cause of the problem. The filters should be tested as stand-alone 
items before putting blame on any particular filter.

The designer of a receiver should know the IIP3 of the filters to be used, 
otherwise he is flying blind.

2)
The effects of SLC (Surface Layer Contamination) on the performance of 
crystals have been known for many years, and methods used during the 
manufacture of crystals to avoid SLC have also been used for many years. SLC 
is usually caused by dirt or particles of quartz which has / have not been 
cleaned out during the manufacture of the crystal. So called "computer 
grade" crystals, which are cheap, can be expected to be contaminated, 
because most are produced for non-critical oscillator applications.

"Dirty" crystals if used in a filter will have a bad effect on the filter's 
IMD performance and its loss.

73,

Geoff
GM4ESD


David Gilbert wrote on Monday, October 19, 2009 at 8:13 PM

> Personally, I find it easier to believe that Inrad fixed the problem
> based upon Elecraft's subjective confirmation of such than I do your
> totally subjective implication that they might be collectively and
> intentionally lying to us.
>
> Dave   AB7E




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Re: [Elecraft] K2 with HRD freq wanders

[Eric]

Dear Don: 

I should have mentioned that the same computer, cable, USB converter works fine 
with the TS-480 connected to HRD.  I think it must be in the K2.

73

Eric WD6DBM


Sent from my iPhone

On Oct 19, 2009, at 12:14 PM, Don Wilhelm  wrote:

Eric,

It really is hard to say what the cause is - there are several possibilities.

It sounds like noise on the cable between the K2 and the computer - which is 
causing the data *to* the computer to be corrupted.  Since the K2 changes 
frequency correctly, the path *from* the computer to the K2 is likely ok.
Try a different serial port if possible or a different computer or if you are 
using one, a different USB to serial converter.

If that does not help, check the negative voltage supply on the KIO2 option.  
If the negative voltage to the MAX1406 chip is missing, the signal may not 
swing low enough to satisfy the receiver in the computer (or USB to serial 
adapter).

73,
Don W3FPR

Eric wrote:
With my K3 in the Elecraft hospital after a failed suicide attempt (apparently 
despondent over my lack of attention while recovering from bronchitis), I 
hooked my K2 up to my computer.  All works fine in HRD but after clicking on a 
K4M spot, the K2 goes to the right frequency but then random numbers appear 
slowly, one by one, in the hrd freq display.  If I click on another dx 
frequency, the k2 goes right there but then the random number cycle starts 
again.  K2 does not change frequency.  Any ideas?  It didn't do this before.

K2 is fully optioned 10 watt model.  
I LOVE my K3, K2, K1, KX1, XV-144 and thundering herd of mini modules!  I even 
love my W2, even though we haven't met yet (kinda like how I feel about Sophia 
Loren).

73 WD6DBM Eric

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Re: [Elecraft] Trojan horse warning

[Dick Dievendorff]

I've seen one other report of this.

I just did a full scan of my development system with Microsoft Security
Essentials.  That file is in my file system. No threats were found.

That of course doesn't guarantee that AVG is finding something that
Microsoft Security Essentials doesn't.

I didn't deliberately install any Trojan horses into the K3 Utility
executable.

I'm using firewalls, sound practices, and a frequent anti virus scan on my
development machine. 

I suspect this is a "false positive" from AVG. 

I'll install AVG on another machine to see what it says. I just this last
week moved all my machines to Microsoft Security Essentials...

Dick, K6KR


-Original Message-
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[mailto:elecraft-boun...@mailman.qth.net] On Behalf Of Svend Spanget
Sent: Monday, October 19, 2009 12:37 PM
To: elecraft@mailman.qth.net
Subject: [Elecraft] Trojan horse warning

I just downloaded the K3 utility 1.2.9.30 from
http://www.elecraft.com/K3/k3_software.htm#k3util.
Now AVG displays a warning: Accessed file is infected. Trojan horse
PSW.Banker5.ZOY

Anybody else notice this?

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Re: [Elecraft] Latest FW 3.44 and the NR/Width

[Don Wilhelm]

Roy and all,

Lyle has not chimed in with the real cause, but I would believe you are 
hearing nothing for the time period it takes to build (and fill) the DSP 
filter.

73,
Don W3FPR

Roy Morris wrote:
> I also have noticed the audio blanking while shifting the WIDTH control with 
> NR engaged.  The audio blanking is most noticeable in the F1 through F4 
> settings.  I do not notice any audio blanking in the F5 through F8 settings, 
> however.  The fourth level settings in F1 through F8 are extremely low in 
> audio output.Roy Morris  W4WFB
>   
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Re: [Elecraft] KIO3 Pinout

[Don Wilhelm]

Werner,

If I recall correctly from my modem days --
The naming of RXD and TXD is correct for the K3 (it is incorrect for the K2)
A DCE device (computer port for example) transmits on TXD and receives 
on RXD
A DTE device (like the K3 or other terminal device) transmits on RXD and 
recieves from TXD.
Yes, it is confusing, but the standard goes back *much* earlier than 
either the K2 or the K3.

73,
Don W3FPR


Dr. Werner Furlan wrote:
>
> Btw, the naming of RX and TX is "unusual" in the manual. I think a 
> transmitting line is called 
> TXD and a receiving line is called RXD, no matter on which device it is 
> located. 
> Data from the K3 = TXD -> RXD on the PC, Data from PC -TXD -> RXD on the K3. 
> (ANSI/EIA/TIA-232-F-1997)
>
> 73! de Werner OE9FWV
>
>   
> 
>
>
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Re: [Elecraft] KIO3 Pinout

[David Christ]

 From my professional experience TxD and RxD may be more common, but 
RX and TX are used often enough that I would not call them unusual. 
Certainly using RX and TX should not cause any confusion.

David K0LUM

>
>
>Btw, the naming of RX and TX is "unusual" in the manual. I think a 
>transmitting line is called
>TXD and a receiving line is called RXD, no matter on which device it 
>is located.
>Data from the K3 = TXD -> RXD on the PC, Data from PC -TXD -> RXD on the K3.
>(ANSI/EIA/TIA-232-F-1997)
>
>73! de Werner OE9FWV
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Re: [Elecraft] Split reminder

[Steve Lawrence]

On Oct 19, 2009, at 12:34 PM, The Smiths wrote:

This is true, but what happens when you operate your rig like I do,  
and you keep your RIT on.
_

There is just so much any manufacturer can do to protect an operator  
from him or herself. The K3 already has the delta f light, the SPLIT  
indicator on the display (TU W2ZK - I'd forgotten that) and frequency  
readout for both VFOs. As one who has made his share of errors with  
the K3 and other radios, there is simply no substitute for just  
learning how to use any radio. I've been puzzled more than a few times  
by the K3 only to find the answer with RTFM.

The real problem with split errors is the insidious nastiness of the  
cops when a quick "RSE up" will do (and the DX isn't TX!), or perhaps  
a Talk cluster message that no one else sees. Either would be far less  
disruptive.

73! Steve WB6RSE
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[Elecraft] KIO3 Pinout

[Dr. Werner Furlan]

I have a question regarding the KIO3 layout. I'd like to abuse 3 pins for 
adding a GPS mouse to 
my TrxPtc in the K3. According to the KIO3 description in the user manual Pin 
1, 8,9 are not 
used. In the list of pins I am also missing Pin 7. I used Pin 9 as GPS VCC 
(5V), Pin 8 is GPS in 
and Pin 5 Ground. The Trxptc has GPS out - is there anything on Pin 7 of the K3 
in the 
moment?

Btw, the naming of RX and TX is "unusual" in the manual. I think a transmitting 
line is called 
TXD and a receiving line is called RXD, no matter on which device it is 
located. 
Data from the K3 = TXD -> RXD on the PC, Data from PC -TXD -> RXD on the K3. 
(ANSI/EIA/TIA-232-F-1997)

73! de Werner OE9FWV

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[Elecraft] Trojan horse warning

[Svend Spanget]

I just downloaded the K3 utility 1.2.9.30 from
http://www.elecraft.com/K3/k3_software.htm#k3util.
Now AVG displays a warning: Accessed file is infected. Trojan horse
PSW.Banker5.ZOY

Anybody else notice this?

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Re: [Elecraft] Split reminder

[The Smiths]

Steve,

This is true, but what happens when you operate your rig like I do, and you 
keep your RIT on.  The second that you move that knob the Delta F light comes 
on for the same exact reason.. So am I to understand that I'm in Delta F 
because I'm still in split, or because I have my RIT on and moved off freq. by 
even .001 hz??

Something should blink, or change to indicate split vs' RIT.
 
> From: wb6r...@mac.com
> To: elecraft@mailman.qth.net
> Date: Mon, 19 Oct 2009 11:54:16 -0700
> Subject: Re: [Elecraft] Split reminder
> 
> 
> On Oct 19, 2009, at 11:49 AM, vidi wrote:
> 
> How about, in addition to the TX arrow pointing to B, also
> flash the [B] VFO sign at say 2/sec to show and remind that 'split' is
> active.
> ___
> 
> There is already an indicator. It's the yellow delta f light below the 
> power button. If it's on, your TX freq is split. You just have to get 
> use to looking for it.
> 
> 73 - Steve WB6RSE
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Re: [Elecraft] Latest FW 3.44 and the NR/Width

[Elliott Lawrence]

I also don't have the audio blanking with the F5-F8 NR settings.  Just 
wanted to make sure that it wasn't only me!!

73
Elliott WA6TLA

- Original Message - 
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To: 
Sent: Monday, October 19, 2009 12:24 PM
Subject: [Elecraft] Latest FW 3.44 and the NR/Width


>I also have noticed the audio blanking while shifting the WIDTH control 
>with NR engaged.  The audio blanking is most noticeable in the F1 through 
>F4 settings.  I do not notice any audio blanking in the F5 through F8 
>settings, however.  The fourth level settings in F1 through F8 are 
>extremely low in audio output.Roy Morris  W4WFB
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Re: [Elecraft] Split reminder

[DC1RS]

... and a yellow LED which will glow if you use split or rit/xit.
Why more?

73 de Roland, DC1RS


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Re: [Elecraft] Split reminder

[The Smiths]

Vidi,

Don't worry it's happened to a lot of us.  I was just suggesting something 
similar to the group the other day.  Either have the numbers change in the main 
VFO as you Xmit (like most rigs out there do) have the Delta F light blink 
obnoxiously (hmmm) or perhaps even your idea where the little B is blinking on 
and off.

There's just got to be some other indication that we're not transmitting on the 
BIG number stairing us right in the face...
 
> From: v...@telkomsa.net
> To: elecraft@mailman.qth.net
> Date: Mon, 19 Oct 2009 20:49:16 +0200
> Subject: [Elecraft] Split reminder
> 
> Hi DX chasers
> In chasing DX have been caught napping a few times, when I forgot to select 
> 'split' and had to be reminded by someone on the DX freq about the blunder. 
> I was wondering if there is a way to more clearly show that 'split' is 
> activated. How about, in addition to the TX arrow pointing to B, also 
> flash the [B] VFO sign at say 2/sec to show and remind that 'split' is 
> active.
> Red face Vidi - ZS1EL
> 
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[Elecraft] K2 + KSB2 option (assembled) for sale

[Chris]

Hi,

My K2 is for sale and comes with the KSB2 option - all assembled.  Reason
for sale: I have the K3.

If you are interested please contact me on zl2cco at gmail.com.

73 Chris ZL2CCO
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[Elecraft] Latest FW 3.44 and the NR/Width

[Roy Morris]

I also have noticed the audio blanking while shifting the WIDTH control with NR 
engaged.  The audio blanking is most noticeable in the F1 through F4 settings.  
I do not notice any audio blanking in the F5 through F8 settings, however.  The 
fourth level settings in F1 through F8 are extremely low in audio output.
Roy Morris  W4WFB
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Re: [Elecraft] K2 with HRD freq wanders

[Don Wilhelm]

Eric,

It really is hard to say what the cause is - there are several 
possibilities.

It sounds like noise on the cable between the K2 and the computer - 
which is causing the data *to* the computer to be corrupted.  Since the 
K2 changes frequency correctly, the path *from* the computer to the K2 
is likely ok.
Try a different serial port if possible or a different computer or if 
you are using one, a different USB to serial converter.

If that does not help, check the negative voltage supply on the KIO2 
option.  If the negative voltage to the MAX1406 chip is missing, the 
signal may not swing low enough to satisfy the receiver in the computer 
(or USB to serial adapter).

73,
Don W3FPR

Eric wrote:
> With my K3 in the Elecraft hospital after a failed suicide attempt 
> (apparently despondent over my lack of attention while recovering from 
> bronchitis), I hooked my K2 up to my computer.  All works fine in HRD but 
> after clicking on a K4M spot, the K2 goes to the right frequency but then 
> random numbers appear slowly, one by one, in the hrd freq display.  If I 
> click on another dx frequency, the k2 goes right there but then the random 
> number cycle starts again.  K2 does not change frequency.  Any ideas?  It 
> didn't do this before.
>
> K2 is fully optioned 10 watt model.  
>
> I LOVE my K3, K2, K1, KX1, XV-144 and thundering herd of mini modules!  I 
> even love my W2, even though we haven't met yet (kinda like how I feel about 
> Sophia Loren).
>
> 73 WD6DBM Eric
>
> "the home of Twoer moonbounce" 
>
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Re: [Elecraft] Flaw in the 1.8 kHz roofing filter - Final for 2009

[David Gilbert]

Personally, I find it easier to believe that Inrad fixed the problem 
based upon Elecraft's subjective confirmation of such than I do your 
totally subjective implication that they might be collectively and 
intentionally lying to us.

Dave   AB7E



Robert Wood wrote:
> In general K3 owners bought for the high performance "numbers"
>
> The ARRL numbers on the dynamic range for 1.8 filter in the QST review 
> provide "great results" but that is subjective - subjective.  Far below 
> expected numbers even if it is better then Brand x
>
> The hamfest story below is great salesman hand waving - no numbers, no 
> reposted test results
> To claim the problem is fixed implies that there are test results
> or to state another way, to claim the problem is fixed without posting test 
> results is questionable
> I doubt the story below was in response to the ARRL article
>
> It's doubtful anyone will perform a retest - (ARRL certainly NOT)
> a Retest by someone outside the firm like Sherwood, etc. would be good
> ( although we maybe too busy reading about firmware updates.hi)
>
> The ARRL QST article as minimum indicates that not all xtal filters of same 
> model are equal
>
> back to RF,   Robert w5aj
>
>
>
>
>
> - Original Message - 
> From: "Fred Atchley" 
> To: 
> Sent: Friday, October 16, 2009 12:14 AM
> Subject: Re: [Elecraft] Flaw in the 1.8 kHz roofing filter
>
>
> At the recent Santa Barbara Hamfest, Eric addressed a problem with the 
> early
> filters in the K3.
>
> The frequency would change unexpectedly. Eventually the problem was solved
> by cleaning.
>
> It was found that particles left over from the crystal manufacturing were
> modifying the freq.
>
> Inrad is just down the street from Elecraft and together they resolved the
> issue.
>
>
>
> I use the 1.8 in my K3 (#2241) with great results.
>
>
>
> 73, Fred AE6IC
>
>   
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Re: [Elecraft] K2 with HRD freq wanders

[Julian, G4ILO]

eric norris wrote:
> 
> With my K3 in the Elecraft hospital after a failed suicide attempt
> (apparently despondent over my lack of attention while recovering from
> bronchitis), I hooked my K2 up to my computer.  All works fine in HRD but
> after clicking on a K4M spot, the K2 goes to the right frequency but then
> random numbers appear slowly, one by one, in the hrd freq display.  If I
> click on another dx frequency, the k2 goes right there but then the random
> number cycle starts again.  K2 does not change frequency.  Any ideas?  It
> didn't do this before.
> 
> K2 is fully optioned 10 watt model.  
> 
> I LOVE my K3, K2, K1, KX1, XV-144 and thundering herd of mini modules!  I
> even love my W2, even though we haven't met yet (kinda like how I feel
> about Sophia Loren).
> 
> 

I'll bet you're using a USB to serial adapter that has a Prolific chipset.
That looks like the same issue I had when I tested KComm with my K2 a while
back. I could send commands to the radio OK but replies back were being
corrupted. The solution in my case was to buy an adapter that has an FTDI
chipset. I can't offer a money back guarantee, but it has helped several
people to whom I made this suggestion, even with K3 communication problems.

-
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Re: [Elecraft] Flaw in the 1.8 kHz roofing filter - Final for 2009

[David Y.]

I agree!  Yaesu, Icom, Kenwood, and even Ten-Tec, often get completely 
closed mouthed about flaws/problems.  Once you buy one of those radios, it's 
pretty much a done deal until the "new and improved version comes out with 
some subtle feature additions, but also a bunch of glitch fixes!  Elecraft 
tends to "lay it all out" on the table when things like this happen. 
Sometimes they may drag their feet a bit, but that's usually to allow 
themselves time to really verify that the problem does exist.  Nobody is 
perfect, but you have to look long and hard to find a company that has been 
more forthright about issues, or more active in resolving them.  Some might 
think they are overly aggressive about it, as when they focus on issues 
that, at least some of us, don't think are issues at all!  I guess that's 
good though!  It makes you better realize just how versatile the radio is.

Dave W7AQK

- Original Message - 
From: 
To: "Elecraft List" 
Sent: Monday, October 19, 2009 11:44 AM
Subject: Re: [Elecraft] Flaw in the 1.8 kHz roofing filter - Final for 2009


>
> On Oct 19, 2009, at 11:12 AM, Robert Wood wrote:
>
> The hamfest story below is great salesman hand waving - no numbers, no
> reposted test results
> To claim the problem is fixed implies that there are test results
> or to state another way, to claim the problem is fixed without posting
> test
> results is questionable
>
> _
>
> If Elecraft is guilty of anything, it's complete transparency.
>
> 73 - Steve WB6RSE
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Re: [Elecraft] Split reminder

[Ted Roycraft]

Also, just above the B frequency display, there is a circled indicator 
that says "SPLT".

73, Ted, W2ZK

wb6r...@mac.com wrote:
> On Oct 19, 2009, at 11:49 AM, vidi wrote:
>
> How about, in addition to the TX arrow pointing to B,  also
> flash the [B] VFO sign at say 2/sec to show and remind  that 'split'  is
> active.
> ___
>
> There is already an indicator. It's the yellow delta f light below the  
> power button. If it's on, your TX freq is split. You just have to get  
> use to looking for it.
>
> 73 - Steve WB6RSE
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Re: [Elecraft] Split reminder

[wb6rse1]

On Oct 19, 2009, at 11:49 AM, vidi wrote:

How about, in addition to the TX arrow pointing to B,  also
flash the [B] VFO sign at say 2/sec to show and remind  that 'split'  is
active.
___

There is already an indicator. It's the yellow delta f light below the  
power button. If it's on, your TX freq is split. You just have to get  
use to looking for it.

73 - Steve WB6RSE
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[Elecraft] Split reminder

[vidi]

Hi DX chasers
In chasing DX have been caught napping a few times, when I forgot to select 
'split' and had to be reminded by someone on the DX freq about the blunder. 
I was wondering if there is a way to more clearly show that  'split' is 
activated.   How about, in addition to the TX arrow pointing to B,  also 
flash the [B] VFO sign at say 2/sec to show and remind  that 'split'  is 
active.
Red face Vidi - ZS1EL
 

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Re: [Elecraft] Flaw in the 1.8 kHz roofing filter - Final for 2009

[wb6rse1]

On Oct 19, 2009, at 11:12 AM, Robert Wood wrote:

The hamfest story below is great salesman hand waving - no numbers, no
reposted test results
To claim the problem is fixed implies that there are test results
or to state another way, to claim the problem is fixed without posting  
test
results is questionable

_

If Elecraft is guilty of anything, it's complete transparency.

73 - Steve WB6RSE
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[Elecraft] K2 with HRD freq wanders

[Eric]

With my K3 in the Elecraft hospital after a failed suicide attempt (apparently 
despondent over my lack of attention while recovering from bronchitis), I 
hooked my K2 up to my computer.  All works fine in HRD but after clicking on a 
K4M spot, the K2 goes to the right frequency but then random numbers appear 
slowly, one by one, in the hrd freq display.  If I click on another dx 
frequency, the k2 goes right there but then the random number cycle starts 
again.  K2 does not change frequency.  Any ideas?  It didn't do this before.

K2 is fully optioned 10 watt model.  

I LOVE my K3, K2, K1, KX1, XV-144 and thundering herd of mini modules!  I even 
love my W2, even though we haven't met yet (kinda like how I feel about Sophia 
Loren).

73 WD6DBM Eric

"the home of Twoer moonbounce" 

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Re: [Elecraft] Flaw in the 1.8 kHz roofing filter - Final for 2009

[Robert Wood]

In general K3 owners bought for the high performance "numbers"

The ARRL numbers on the dynamic range for 1.8 filter in the QST review 
provide "great results" but that is subjective - subjective.  Far below 
expected numbers even if it is better then Brand x

The hamfest story below is great salesman hand waving - no numbers, no 
reposted test results
To claim the problem is fixed implies that there are test results
or to state another way, to claim the problem is fixed without posting test 
results is questionable
I doubt the story below was in response to the ARRL article

It's doubtful anyone will perform a retest - (ARRL certainly NOT)
a Retest by someone outside the firm like Sherwood, etc. would be good
( although we maybe too busy reading about firmware updates.hi)

The ARRL QST article as minimum indicates that not all xtal filters of same 
model are equal

back to RF,   Robert w5aj





- Original Message - 
From: "Fred Atchley" 
To: 
Sent: Friday, October 16, 2009 12:14 AM
Subject: Re: [Elecraft] Flaw in the 1.8 kHz roofing filter


At the recent Santa Barbara Hamfest, Eric addressed a problem with the 
early
filters in the K3.

The frequency would change unexpectedly. Eventually the problem was solved
by cleaning.

It was found that particles left over from the crystal manufacturing were
modifying the freq.

Inrad is just down the street from Elecraft and together they resolved the
issue.



I use the 1.8 in my K3 (#2241) with great results.



73, Fred AE6IC

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[Elecraft] Frequency Memory Editor

[Edward Dickinson, III]

Are the K3 frequencies accessible from outside software?  Of the various
pieces of software for the K3 is there a frequency memory editor?
...something along the lines of text file editor with hooks into the K3
frequencies or perhaps a spread sheet.


Best regards,

Dick - KA5KKT

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Re: [Elecraft] Clean 600hz signal >> dsp cycles

[Guy Olinger K2AV]

"I don't think the additions over the last year used the other 50%."

Actually with various continuing features on (NR, NB, CWT, etc), the current
code has been punching the top.  While all you say (cleaning up, improving
process, etc) is true, the idea of a vast unlimited code execution space is
not.

As inevitably happens with hardware code in a fixed hardware environment
(nature abhors a vacuum), ideas (even genius level ideas) will exhaust
resources and trade-offs begin.  Fast, compact, and resource conserving code
always comes AFTER proven concepts, and is the hardest code to write.

It is quite interesting to watch the Aptos crowd work on this stuff. I hope
people understand the rarity of this publicly aired on-going accomplishment.

73, Guy.
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Re: [Elecraft] [K3] Split operation

[Fred Atchley]

Wow, Alan, Eric and Wayne, This is a great suggestion for future k3/P3
software:

Snip

I also like the idea of an initial offset for use with LP-PAN. When turning
on Split, the panadapter would then clearly show both passbands in a
predictable way. With A=B, one is hiding behind the other. With no preset,
one could be off the screen.

 

End snip.

Thanks for the idea Larry.

73, Fred AE6IC

 

 

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Re: [Elecraft] Split operation

[Mike]

+ 1
Mike NF4L

Merle Bone wrote:
> I would also find this option to be helpful.
> Merle - W0EWM
>
>
> van fair wrote:
>   
>> I believe that 98% of all of us use split to work DX and this always occurs 
>> in the same mode. It seems to me that having a menu item that would allow us 
>> to choose  to have VFO B always be in the same mode as VFO  A would be a 
>> helpful thing. It would eliminate the step of always having to make B equal 
>> A with a double tap. The Other choice for the menu selection would be to 
>> have it exactly as it is now. I dont see any downside to this solution.  If 
>> you agree please let Wayne and company know. The way it is now makes it more 
>> trouble to go split than with any other transceiver.  Van W4GIW
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[Elecraft] K3: Help with K3 and Softrock IF - Poor audio using PSDR/IF as panadapter

[Lawrence Libsch]

   When running PowerSDR/IF as a panadapter with my Softrock IF, I am 
unable to get the audio out of my soundcard to sound right. It sounds as though 
I am tuned either off frequency on the low side or off frequency on the high 
side. The complete setup is: K3 without mod for IF for LP Pan, Z1 buffer 
amp set up for K3, EM 0202 USB, Lenovo T61 laptop running WIN XP Pro SP2, LP 
Bridge v 0.9.86, Power SDR/IF v 0.92.

 

I see a good trace on the PSDR panadapter. When I tune to a 20  m 
sideband frequency where there is a signal, and listen to both the K3 speaker 
audio and the EMU audio from headphones plugged into the headphone speaker 
jack, the signals I hear from the EMU are clearly the same audio as from the K3 
on that frequency. But they aren't clear. I can't copy them. The EMU sounds 
like it is mis-tuned. I have carefully adjusted the Global frequency offset so 
that the frequency peak of WWV at 15 Mhz falls precisely at 15 Mhz on the 
zoomed panadapter trace. I have tried changing the global frequency offset both 
up and down. This does not correct the problem. 

 

Help please.

 


Larry,   K4KGG
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[Elecraft] Remove birdies with different shift!

[Gordan Hribar]

Hi,

Process removing birdies is explained in manual with default shift value 1.50 
.. and I remove only birdies what I can hear with antenna connected
If you need use different Shift for me is very good -1.15 which gives little 
more bass and punchy audio on this way I realized new birdies on some freq. Is 
there same way for remove this new birdies? Is that mean that for all new shift 
need to use Signal remove process ?

73,

E72X - Gordan



  
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Re: [Elecraft] K3 3.30 FW 80M split-strange behavior

[Joe Planisky]

I should also mention that I'm on FW 3.44.

73
--
Joe KB8AP

On Oct 19, 2009, at 6:04 AM, Joe Planisky wrote:

> That is, if I tune VFO-A to 3.535 and tap the XMIT button to enter
> transmit and then tap it again to enter receive, the receiver is
> dead.  (By "dead", I mean I hear noise but at a very reduced level.)
> If I tap my paddle, the receiver comes back immediately.  If I do the
> same thing at 3.530 or 3.540, it doesn't happen (i.e. the receiver
> always comes back fine.)
> On Oct 19, 2009, at 5:03 AM, Mark C. Killmon wrote:
>
>> Hello,
>>
>>
>>
>> Can anyone reproduce this one, or is it just me?

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Re: [Elecraft] [K3] Latest FW 3.44 and the NR/WIDTH

[Mike]

Well said!

Mike NF4L

Julian, G4ILO wrote:
> This is beta firmware. People are being invited to test it. This is a two way
> process. If people are being invited to test software, they feel involved in
> the development process and also feel entitled to make suggestions for
> improvements. It's only natural that their suggestions reflect their
> personal interests. It's up to the guys at Elecraft to sort the totally
> bonkers suggestions from the ones that help make the K3 better, and I think
> they are doing a good job of that.
>
> Just remember, all the people who are spending valuable operating time
> downloading and beta testing firmware are helping make a smoother upgrade
> experience for all those who choose to wait for a final release.
>
> -
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>
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Re: [Elecraft] K3 3.30 FW 80M split-strange behavior

[Ted Roycraft]

Joe,

If this helps isolate the problem ... I tried your scenario (and others) 
and I can't reproduce the problem. 

My configuration:
-Sub receiver (but turned off)
-Firmware:uC: 3.44
 d1: 2.38
 d2: 2.38
 fl: 1.04

73, Ted, W2ZK

Joe Planisky wrote:
> Confirmed, but with a few differences.  In my case, I found:
>
> 1. I don't have to actually be in SPLIT mode.
>
> 2. It doesn't seem to depend on the VFO-B frequency.
>
> 3. VOX on/off doesn't seem to matter, manually entering transmit with  
> the XMIT button seems to be the trigger.
>
> 4. It's frequency dependent.
>
> That is, if I tune VFO-A to 3.535 and tap the XMIT button to enter  
> transmit and then tap it again to enter receive, the receiver is  
> dead.  (By "dead", I mean I hear noise but at a very reduced level.)   
> If I tap my paddle, the receiver comes back immediately.  If I do the  
> same thing at 3.530 or 3.540, it doesn't happen (i.e. the receiver  
> always comes back fine.)
>
> Interestingly, I DON'T see this behavior at 3.515.
>
> 73
> --
> Joe KB8AP
>
> On Oct 19, 2009, at 5:03 AM, Mark C. Killmon wrote:
>
>   
>> Hello,
>>
>>
>>
>> Can anyone reproduce this one, or is it just me?
>>
>>
>>
>> 80M, A VFO on 3.515, no sub receiver (I don't have one), B VFO on  
>> 3.518.5.
>> Key the transmitter (PTT via a footswitch or front panel XMIT) and the
>> receiver comes back with vy. low sensitivity. Key it again, receiver  
>> is
>> fine. This effect is totally repeatable, toggling back and forth. No  
>> split,
>> no problem, so it's not the RF path and/or antenna.  If I use the  
>> XIT to
>> accomplish the split, I have the same problem.
>>
>>
>>
>> Here's the real kicker. When the split is less than 3 kHz or greater  
>> than 5
>> kHz, the K3 doesn't  behave this way.
>>
>>
>>
>> If I use VOX, no problem. The same configuration on 40M doesn't  
>> produce this
>> problem.
>>
>>
>>
>> This might be a "If it hurts when you move your arm like this, don't  
>> move
>> your arm like this" situation, but I generally use PTT via a  
>> footswitch and
>> this split is not unusual. I'll run VOX to get around it for now.
>>
>>
>>
>> V. 3.30 FW, 2.26 DSP
>>
>>
>>
>> 73, Mark
>>
>> K3  #2861
>>
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Re: [Elecraft] K3 3.30 FW 80M split-strange behavior

[Joe Planisky]

Confirmed, but with a few differences.  In my case, I found:

1. I don't have to actually be in SPLIT mode.

2. It doesn't seem to depend on the VFO-B frequency.

3. VOX on/off doesn't seem to matter, manually entering transmit with  
the XMIT button seems to be the trigger.

4. It's frequency dependent.

That is, if I tune VFO-A to 3.535 and tap the XMIT button to enter  
transmit and then tap it again to enter receive, the receiver is  
dead.  (By "dead", I mean I hear noise but at a very reduced level.)   
If I tap my paddle, the receiver comes back immediately.  If I do the  
same thing at 3.530 or 3.540, it doesn't happen (i.e. the receiver  
always comes back fine.)

Interestingly, I DON'T see this behavior at 3.515.

73
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On Oct 19, 2009, at 5:03 AM, Mark C. Killmon wrote:

> Hello,
>
>
>
> Can anyone reproduce this one, or is it just me?
>
>
>
> 80M, A VFO on 3.515, no sub receiver (I don't have one), B VFO on  
> 3.518.5.
> Key the transmitter (PTT via a footswitch or front panel XMIT) and the
> receiver comes back with vy. low sensitivity. Key it again, receiver  
> is
> fine. This effect is totally repeatable, toggling back and forth. No  
> split,
> no problem, so it's not the RF path and/or antenna.  If I use the  
> XIT to
> accomplish the split, I have the same problem.
>
>
>
> Here's the real kicker. When the split is less than 3 kHz or greater  
> than 5
> kHz, the K3 doesn't  behave this way.
>
>
>
> If I use VOX, no problem. The same configuration on 40M doesn't  
> produce this
> problem.
>
>
>
> This might be a "If it hurts when you move your arm like this, don't  
> move
> your arm like this" situation, but I generally use PTT via a  
> footswitch and
> this split is not unusual. I'll run VOX to get around it for now.
>
>
>
> V. 3.30 FW, 2.26 DSP
>
>
>
> 73, Mark
>
> K3  #2861
>
> www.k4so.com
>
> www.picasaweb.com/kfourso
>
> kfourso.googlepages.com
>
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[Elecraft] Split

[k5nu]

Elecrafters,  

With the latest beta 3.44 I seem to notice something different when toggling 
between split and no split.  I hear a change in the audio on the main rx when 
changing to split and back.  I don't remember hearing that in the past.  It may 
not be significant, but it seems the audio on the main rx is shifting a bit.

73, Mike K5NU
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Re: [Elecraft] [K3] Split operation

[N8LP]

I also like the idea of an initial offset for use with LP-PAN. When turning
on Split, the panadapter would then clearly show both passbands in a
predictable way. With A=B, one is hiding behind the other. With no preset,
one could be off the screen.

73,
Larry N8LP




Ian White GM3SEK wrote:
> 
> 
> 
> "One touch split" from the VFO A frequency is an established menu option 
> on a wide range of transceivers. The K3 requires FIVE distinct 
> operations to set that up, leaving its owner several seconds behind the 
> game.
> 
> I strongly prefer the option of an offset frequency as a starting point 
> for tuning VFO B, because an offset of zero is the DX station's own 
> frequency - the one place we *don't* want to transmit!
> 
> 
> 
> 
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[Elecraft] K3 3.30 FW 80M split-strange behavior

[Mark C. Killmon]

Hello,

 

Can anyone reproduce this one, or is it just me?

 

80M, A VFO on 3.515, no sub receiver (I don't have one), B VFO on 3.518.5.
Key the transmitter (PTT via a footswitch or front panel XMIT) and the
receiver comes back with vy. low sensitivity. Key it again, receiver is
fine. This effect is totally repeatable, toggling back and forth. No split,
no problem, so it's not the RF path and/or antenna.  If I use the XIT to
accomplish the split, I have the same problem.

 

Here's the real kicker. When the split is less than 3 kHz or greater than 5
kHz, the K3 doesn't  behave this way.

 

If I use VOX, no problem. The same configuration on 40M doesn't produce this
problem.

 

This might be a "If it hurts when you move your arm like this, don't move
your arm like this" situation, but I generally use PTT via a footswitch and
this split is not unusual. I'll run VOX to get around it for now.

 

V. 3.30 FW, 2.26 DSP 

 

73, Mark

K3  #2861

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www.picasaweb.com/kfourso

kfourso.googlepages.com

 

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Re: [Elecraft] Elecraft CW Net Announcement

[Julius Fazekas n2wn]

Hi Tom,

You should have listened to what was happening above 7025. Pretty much wall
to wall RTTY and SSB. There were. at least, five contests happening on CW,
SSB and RTTY...

Some of us did stop contesting to ragchew with JOTA and other non-contesters
and I heard one station in the NYQP move on SSB because he was a bit close
to a net.

Frankly on 40 it was kinda tough to even hear K4M with all the tuners and
cops and other assorted ummm people right on top of them. Thankfully all we
had to fight with on 160 was QRN, but it wasn't bad enough to not get 'em in
the log. 20 was just as bad here. Big turnoff for working DXpeditions,
sometimes wish they wouldn't publish frequencies in advance, seems like
there is less QRM then.

Weekends are tough... EVERYONE wants to do their own thing, this past
weekend was insane for sure.

Want to get even more insane? Try hopping between all the modes and contests
;o) Oh, QRP most of the time too! hihi

73,
Julius


Radio Amateur N5GE wrote:
> 
> On Sun, 18 Oct 2009 14:19:06 -0700, "Ron D'Eau Claire" 
> wrote:
> 
>>Kevin is demonstrating the art and pleasure of "rag chewing". Comments
like
>>his are the essence of a great contact on the air that makes Ham radio so
>>enjoyable for a lot of us. 
>>
>>Your observations about wherever you live and comments about what's
>>important and interesting to you each day are instructive and interesting
to
>>others.
>>
>>73, 
>>
>>Ron AC7AC
>>
> According to QST and the ARRL, ham radio is all about "Radio Sport",
> not rag chewing ;o)
> 
> You are right Ron.  All of this started happening around 1980 or so.
> Now it's completely out of hand.  Saturday night I was trying to work
> a rare one when a station in the NY QSO party landed right on top of
> him.  What was so bad was that he was below 7.025 in the DX window.
> 
> Sorry about the OT Bytes.
> 
> Tom, N5GE
> 
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> XV144, XV432, KRC2,
> W1 and other small kits.
> 
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Re: [Elecraft] Latest FW 3.44 and the NR/WIDTH

[Luis V. Romero]

All:

I don't hear a "POP", but I do sense that what is going on is that the DSP
settings are being "flushed" between settings when you tweak the controls.
There is a short "mute" when the settings are changed, then the audio comes
back up.  It also mutes when you press the encoders to change from HI/LO to
Shift/Width.  

Change the AGC from slow to fast and turn the BW encoders and you will see
what I mean.  The audio "mutes" and then ramps back up after the settings
change.

Its changed the controls from an "analog" feel to a "digital" feel.  From a
"infinitely variable" feel to a "discrete step" feel.  The analog radio feel
guys may not like it.  The digital radio feel folks will just take it in
stride as a digital artifact  :)

The positive result of this change is a good thing, however.  Now, it takes
less time for a setting to "adapt" when it is changed than it used to.
Before, when you tweaked the encoders, it took a couple of seconds for the
new setting to settle in and take effect.  Now, after the "step" to the new
setting, the new DSP setting is immediately applied.

While I don't really like the muting action and the "digital step" feeling,
I like the more immediate setting change as far as its use operationally.  I
can live with the muting action if I have to because the operational
advantages outweigh the new "stepped" feel of the controls, but it would be
nice if the audio didn't mute when the controls were adjusted from my
perspective.

On another subject, I completely agree with Ralph 'ZZI 3000% about the
default mode of the B>A function defaulting to match modes on both VFO's!
PLEASE, PLEASE, PLEASE make that change!

-lu-w4lt-
K3 #3192

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Message: 11
Date: Sun, 18 Oct 2009 18:24:21 +
From: Brian Alsop 
Subject: Re: [Elecraft] Latest FW 3.44 and the NR/WIDTH
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I tried looking hard for this in both SSB and CW.

The only pop I hear is when width moves to a new filter.

Is there some other mode that this shows up in?

(Listening in earphones, with AFX off.)

73 de Brian/K3KO


Elliott Lawrence wrote:
> Thanks HectorGlad it isn't just me being too picky!!!
> 
> I don't want to reload 3.3 to see the difference. Maybe somewho who hasn't

> upgraded can check that out.
> 
> 73
> Elliott WA6TLA

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[Elecraft] K3 plus transverter

[Vic Goncharsky]

Dear friends,I wonder if someone had luck to connect the VHF/UHF transverter 
with random IF (in my case it's high IP3 Paul Drexler's WB3JYO transverter 
http://lkk.do.am/load/0-0-0-2-20 with 24 MHz IF) to K3, using the KXV3 option? 
. 
I have both KIO3 and KXV3 installed and K3 is open to transmit 1-30 MHz by the 
software supplied by Elecraft. Sensitivity on 24 MHz is about 10 dB down since 
I've no wideband filter option but it's easily compensated by the posmixer 
amplifier in the transverter.
Yesterday I once again found how wonderful radio K3 is, while trying to work 
K4M on 40 in the middle of the day. Without an outstanding K3 receiver the QSO 
would have never been possible.73 Vic



  
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Re: [Elecraft] Clean 600hz signal >> dsp cycles

[pd0psb]

Hello Julian,

In november 2008 CPU was hitting just over 50%.
http://w7brs.com/k3/wkshop/
I don't think the additions over the last year used the other 50%.

If so, there may be room for economizing the code, it's quite common to do
that after new developments,additions & tests. (Which have been put out in
large numbers lately!)
 
Time for users to economize on requests for the time being ;-)

73'
Paul
PD0PSB



Whether the DSP has enough "cycles" left for this to ever be more than a
dream is another matter...


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