Re: [Elecraft] K3 v 3.76 NR Release Notes

2010-01-26 Thread WW2PT
It a beautiful thing. Thanks!

WW2PT

On Jan 25, 2010, at 11:06 PM, Lyle Johnson wrote:


 Were there  other tweeks to NR?  Thanks.  Roy Morris  W4WFB


 You can set it differently for SSB, AM and CW.

 73,

 Lyle KK7P
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Re: [Elecraft] K3: Why can't I use my 1.8kHz filter for SSB TX?

2010-01-26 Thread David Woolley (E.L)
One possibility is that the rig has only been type approval tested in 
that configuration, so anyone wanting to operate it with a different 
filter would require a professional RF spectrum analyzer.

Top posted through policy, not belief.

Brian Machesney wrote:
 reflector. The only authoritative information I found information was this
 from July 2008:
 
 Until further information to the contrary is available from Elecraft, you
 must select the 2.7 or 2.8 filter for SSB, Data and CW transmit. The AM
 transmit filter must be 6 kHz and the FM transmit filter must be 13 kHz. Any
 other settings will result in failure and a ERR TXF (Error TX Filter)
 message.

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[Elecraft] K3 setup for Signalink USB and DM780

2010-01-26 Thread AB3EN

Setting and suggestions for configuring the Signalink USB with the K3 to use
HRD DM780 program would be appreciated. The connections look straight
forward but the optimum setting for the K3 will take some testing I suspect.
I am hoping to be able to switch between SSB and digital modes without a lot
of resetting menus or tweaking settings.

Thanks 
Dan AB3EN 

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[Elecraft] Using 2nd Rx to reduce noise

2010-01-26 Thread Mike Keller
Has anyone found a way to use phase cancel external noise heard in the main Rx 
using the second Rx and a noise antenna

Mike
W1BNC

K2, K3, KPA???
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Re: [Elecraft] NR adjust on sub?

2010-01-26 Thread Jim Miller
Should have mentioned that I was unable to set Sub NR after loading beta
3.76 complete with new DSP FW.

Sub works great otherwise.

jim ab3cv

On Mon, Jan 25, 2010 at 11:07 PM, Jim Miller j...@jtmiller.com wrote:

 I've activated Bset but when I hold the NR button I don't get a Fx-x
 indication for setting the Sub NR.

 Didn't see anything in the manual or scanning throught the Config settings.

 How is this done?

 tnx

 jim ab3cv (sub newbie)

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Re: [Elecraft] Using 2nd Rx to reduce noise

2010-01-26 Thread Bill W4ZV


Mike Keller wrote:
 
 Has anyone found a way to use phase cancel external noise heard in the
 main Rx using the second Rx and a noise antenna
 

Not internally, but you don't need the KRX3 to do that.   You can use an
external device such as the DXE NCC-1, MFJ-1025/1026 or Timewave ANC-4 (in
order of effectiveness based on personal experience with all 3).  Noise
canceling works best if the noise is a point source, although it can
sometimes help reduce noise from a general direction (such as lightning
QRN).

http://www.dxengineering.com/Parts.asp?ID=1227PLID=215SecID=114DeptID=12PartNo=DXE-NCC-1
http://www.mfjenterprises.com/Product.php?productid=MFJ-1025
http://www.timewave.com/support/ANC-4/anc4.html

73,  Bill
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Re: [Elecraft] NR adjust on sub?

2010-01-26 Thread Don Wilhelm
Jim,

In that case it should work.  Is there any chance you are in either DATA 
or FM mode?  Noise Reduction is N/A for those modes.
I don't have the sub here to try it, so perhaps someone who has the sub 
can try it on their K3 with 3.76 beta firmware.

73,
Don W3FPR

Jim Miller wrote:
 Should have mentioned that I was unable to set Sub NR after loading beta
 3.76 complete with new DSP FW.

 Sub works great otherwise.

 jim ab3cv

 On Mon, Jan 25, 2010 at 11:07 PM, Jim Miller j...@jtmiller.com wrote:

   
 I've activated Bset but when I hold the NR button I don't get a Fx-x
 indication for setting the Sub NR.

 Didn't see anything in the manual or scanning throught the Config settings.

 How is this done?

 tnx

 jim ab3cv (sub newbie)

 
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[Elecraft] New K3, no Fast AGC it is same as Slow AGC

2010-01-26 Thread Dean
An issue that I am having with my K3 is that the Fast AGC actual decay time 
is the same as the Slow  AGC actual decay time. If I adjust the menu decay 
time for the Fast AGC it has no effect, but if I adjust the menu decay time for 
the Slow AGC, it effects both the Fast and Slow AGC positions. In effect, I 
have no Fast AGC. 

My K3 came with firmware 3.68 and I upgraded to 3.76 but they both have the 
same problem.

Any ideas?

Thanks!

Dean
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Re: [Elecraft] K3 V3.76 Beta Firmware (Nabble users please read)

2010-01-26 Thread W0FK

Thanks for the heads up, Leigh. I hadn't noticed Wayne's post.

73,

Lou, W0FK


Leigh L. Klotz Jr WA5ZNU wrote:
 
 Nabble users may have missed the announcement of K3 V3.76 Beta firmware
 because it appeared in the middle of an old thread about 3.57.  
 
 http://n2.nabble.com/K3-Beta-Firmware-Rev-3-57-Synchronous-AM-Detection-AM-S-misc-improvements-tp3983997p4457885.html
 
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Re: [Elecraft] K3 V3.76 Beta Firmware (Nabble users please read)

2010-01-26 Thread Leigh L. Klotz Jr WA5ZNU

I hadn't either, hi hi!
Leigh/WA5ZNU
 Thanks for the heads up, Leigh. I hadn't noticed Wayne's post.

 73,

 Lou, W0FK

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Re: [Elecraft] K3: Why can't I use my 1.8kHz filter for SSB TX?

2010-01-26 Thread Doug Faunt N6TQS +1-510-655-8604
Early versions of the firmware did, in fact, allow transmission
through the 2.1kHz filter, and that capability was removed.  I suggest
that speculation is futile, since there are authoritative sources
available.

73, doug

   Date: Tue, 26 Jan 2010 08:41:18 +
   From: David Woolley (E.L) for...@david-woolley.me.uk

   One possibility is that the rig has only been type approval tested in 
   that configuration, so anyone wanting to operate it with a different 
   filter would require a professional RF spectrum analyzer.

   Top posted through policy, not belief.

   Brian Machesney wrote:
reflector. The only authoritative information I found information was 
this
from July 2008:

Until further information to the contrary is available from Elecraft, you
must select the 2.7 or 2.8 filter for SSB, Data and CW transmit. The AM
transmit filter must be 6 kHz and the FM transmit filter must be 13 kHz. 
Any
other settings will result in failure and a ERR TXF (Error TX Filter)
message.
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Re: [Elecraft] NR adjust on sub?

2010-01-26 Thread Ken K3IU
It works. You have to be sure you have the Sub Rx turned ON when you 
attempt to turn NR on or off using b-set
73,
Ken K3IU
K3 #202


On 1/26/2010 8:58 AM, Don Wilhelm wrote:
 Jim,

 In that case it should work.  Is there any chance you are in either DATA
 or FM mode?  Noise Reduction is N/A for those modes.
 I don't have the sub here to try it, so perhaps someone who has the sub
 can try it on their K3 with 3.76 beta firmware.

 73,
 Don W3FPR

 Jim Miller wrote:

 Should have mentioned that I was unable to set Sub NR after loading beta
 3.76 complete with new DSP FW.

 Sub works great otherwise.

 jim ab3cv

 On Mon, Jan 25, 2010 at 11:07 PM, Jim Millerj...@jtmiller.com  wrote:


  
 I've activated Bset but when I hold the NR button I don't get a Fx-x
 indication for setting the Sub NR.

 Didn't see anything in the manual or scanning throught the Config settings.

 How is this done?

 tnx

 jim ab3cv (sub newbie)



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Re: [Elecraft] K3: ATU but a bigger version

2010-01-26 Thread Bill K9YEQ
Phil,

I have privately requested the same as you suggest. Since there is already a
full market of amps... would love to have the auto tuner to work with my THP
HL-2.5.  The THP auto tuner doesn't quite have what I would like. Even
better, I would like a totally remote Elecraft tuner which works at/near the
antennas.  There are a couple out there, but the cost is amazing for the
complicated wiring to them.  Would be nice to be fully remote.  I did that
with an MFJ 994, which worked ok up to 600 watts, but not legal limit.


73,

Bill
K9YEQ
K2  KX1 (Field tester); K3; W2; mini mods 


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[mailto:elecraft-boun...@mailman.qth.net] On Behalf Of Phil Hystad
Sent: Monday, January 25, 2010 11:03 PM
To: Elecraft Discussion List
Subject: [Elecraft] K3: ATU but a bigger version

I really like the way that the K3 ATU works.  It has that nice push my
button and I will tune for you feel to it.

But, it is so small.  OK, kind of kidding here but it would be nice to have
a big legal limit version of this tuner.  Sure, a separate bigger box
container.  I don't really like some of the auto-tuners that I have seen
that are in automatic mode and retune behind the scenes (so to say).  I like
to have some control over my auto-tuner.

So, is there any hope that Elecraft might someday build a big 1500 watt
capable ATU along the same style as the ATU in the K3?  Knowing Elecraft, it
would be highly configurable with firmware controlled features and options.
And a kit version too of course.

73, phil, K7PEH
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[Elecraft] K3-Delayed Memory Recall in 3.76

2010-01-26 Thread k4cia
Although not specifically mentioned in the release notes, I was very pleased to 
find the delay feature also works for memories 0-99.  The notes in an updated 
version of the operating manual will need to be amended for this config menu 
item.

Good job again, Wayne!
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[Elecraft] OT: Array's QSK Master wanted

2010-01-26 Thread Gary Smith
Apologies to the reflector.

If you have a QSK Master excess to your needs and would like to 
lighten your parts counter, please contact me directly  don't reply 
to the list if you would. As we all do know, OT posts should not be 
recycled on the ongoing mailing list.

73,

Gary
Gary at ka1j.com
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[Elecraft] [K2] RX noise level

2010-01-26 Thread Sergey Dan

Hello
I've measured K2's RX noise level (antenna terminated on 50 ohm, AGC OFF, AF
and RF to max,
DMM connected to P5), when PRE is ON N = 0.055v, PRE is OFF N = 0.013v.
Are those levels OK for K2?

Thanks
Sergey.

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Re: [Elecraft] K3 and W2IHY EQ Plus!

2010-01-26 Thread Lyle Johnson

 My primary goal was to eliminate the high level of background 
 noise from my VHF amplifiers when I operate SSB mode.
 

There are two main approaches to helping mitigate shack noise from Tx 
audio: Noise Gate and Downward Expansion.

A Noise Gate, such as is used in the K3, acts much like an FM squelch 
does on receive.  It looks at Tx audio amplitude and if a signal exceeds 
that amplitude, it opens the audio path for a certain period of time.  
Whenever an audio peak exceeds the threshold, the timer is 
re-triggered.  Thus, continuous speech will keep the gate open.  The 
timer is necessary to allow softer parts of speech to pass without 
distortion.

Thus, the Noise Gate is not a clipper or waveform modifier and 
introduces no crossover or other distortion when it is activated.  In 
this case, the speech overrides the noise source during speech, and the 
timer silences the audio path when there is no speech.  However, if the 
threshold is too high, then leading edge distortion may result.

A Downward Expander changes the gain (slope, or transfer function) of 
the input amplifier for signals below the threshold.  This can result in 
crossover and other distortion for the low-level components of speech.  
On the other hand, it may also result in reduced amplitude of the noise 
source itself even when speech is present due to the slope of the 
downward expansion.  Gating in the form of clipping occurs when the 
downward expansion slope results in zero gain.

The most common misadjustment of the Noise Gate is to set the threshold 
too close to the noise source's level. This can result in the noise 
source triggering the audio, resulting in a scratchy or staccato 
effect.  In most cases, *increasing* the threshold beyond that point 
will result in the desired squelching of the noise source, while still 
allowing speech to pass.

73,

Lyle KK7P



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Re: [Elecraft] Using 2nd Rx to reduce noise

2010-01-26 Thread Vic K2VCO
Bill W4ZV wrote:
 
 Mike Keller wrote:
 Has anyone found a way to use phase cancel external noise heard in the
 main Rx using the second Rx and a noise antenna

 
 Not internally, but you don't need the KRX3 to do that.   You can use an
 external device such as the DXE NCC-1, MFJ-1025/1026 or Timewave ANC-4 (in
 order of effectiveness based on personal experience with all 3).  Noise
 canceling works best if the noise is a point source, although it can
 sometimes help reduce noise from a general direction (such as lightning
 QRN).
 
 http://www.dxengineering.com/Parts.asp?ID=1227PLID=215SecID=114DeptID=12PartNo=DXE-NCC-1
 http://www.mfjenterprises.com/Product.php?productid=MFJ-1025
 http://www.timewave.com/support/ANC-4/anc4.html

If you have the KXV3 (the so-called 'transverter interface' which is much more 
than that) 
you can simply connect the noise canceller between the RX IN and RX OUT. This 
enables you 
to avoid using the kludgy relay in the device for t-r switching.

Bill, is that in order of increasing or decreasing effectiveness?
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Re: [Elecraft] K3: ATU but a bigger version (Bill K9YEQ)

2010-01-26 Thread Petr Ourednik
Hi,

in fact there is no suitable remote legal power limit ATU on the market
provides all required functions and capabilities. I am looking for it
for long years. Even overpriced gears available are just stupid unusable
boxes unfortunately so I agree that something as You are talking about
capable to handle more than 1HP (horse power) is highly wanted.

73 - Petr, OK1RP
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Re: [Elecraft] NR adjust on sub?

2010-01-26 Thread Dr. Werner Furlan
on my K3 with FW 3.76 loaded I can set NR settings with BSET for the 
subreceiver, but it is then changed also for the main receiver. I can use 
NR on the main or sub or for both, but with the same NR settings for the 
same mode. 

73! de Werner OE9FWV


Don Wilhelm schrieb am 26 Jan 2010 um 8:58:

 Jim,
 
 In that case it should work.  Is there any chance you are in either DATA or
 FM mode?  Noise Reduction is N/A for those modes. I don't have the sub here
 to try it, so perhaps someone who has the sub can try it on their K3 with
 3.76 beta firmware.
 
 73,
 Don W3FPR
 
 Jim Miller wrote:
  Should have mentioned that I was unable to set Sub NR after loading beta
  3.76 complete with new DSP FW.
 
  Sub works great otherwise.
 
  jim ab3cv
 
  On Mon, Jan 25, 2010 at 11:07 PM, Jim Miller j...@jtmiller.com wrote:
 

  I've activated Bset but when I hold the NR button I don't get a Fx-x
  indication for setting the Sub NR.
 
  Didn't see anything in the manual or scanning throught the Config
  settings.
 
  How is this done?
 
  tnx
 
  jim ab3cv (sub newbie)
 
  
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Re: [Elecraft] Using 2nd Rx to reduce noise

2010-01-26 Thread Bill Tippett
 On Tue, Jan 26, 2010 at 12:09 PM, Vic K2VCO v...@rakefet.com wrote:

 Bill W4ZV wrote:

 Mike Keller wrote:

 Has anyone found a way to use phase cancel external noise heard in the
 main Rx using the second Rx and a noise antenna


 Not internally, but you don't need the KRX3 to do that.   You can use an
 external device such as the DXE NCC-1, MFJ-1025/1026 or Timewave ANC-4 (in
 order of effectiveness based on personal experience with all 3).  Noise
 canceling works best if the noise is a point source, although it can
 sometimes help reduce noise from a general direction (such as lightning
 QRN).

 http://www.dxengineering.com/Parts.asp?ID=1227PLID=215SecID=114DeptID=12PartNo=DXE-NCC-1
 http://www.mfjenterprises.com/Product.php?productid=MFJ-1025
 http://www.timewave.com/support/ANC-4/anc4.html

 If you have the KXV3 (the so-called 'transverter interface' which is much 
 more than that) you can simply connect the noise canceller between the RX IN 
 and RX OUT. This enables you to avoid using the kludgy relay in the device 
 for t-r switching.


 The KXV3 does make it easier to connect the main antenna, but you may
still need to protect the noise antenna input which is not routed
through the KXV3.


 Bill, is that in order of increasing or decreasing effectiveness?


Most effective is the DXE NCC-1 (also MUCH more expensive).  The
MFJ-1025 works reasonably well, especially if you do W8JI's mods
below,

http://www.w8ji.com/mfj-1025_1026.htm

 ...but it's more critical to adjust, has a higher internal noise
floor and less robust front end.  Some have had good luck with the
ANC-4 but I personally did not.

To do noise canceling internally to the K3, you would need a
convenient way to adjust both amplitude and phase.  Although amplitude
can be done with RF Gain and ATT/PRE, there is presently no adjustment
for phase.  For ease of use both amplitude and phase adjustments
should be large knobs which the K3's ergonomics preclude.  For example
the easiest to use NCC-1 is nearly the same size as a K3 itself!
(4.25 X 9.5 X 9.5)

73,  Bill  W4ZV
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Re: [Elecraft] [K2] RX noise level

2010-01-26 Thread Don Wilhelm
Sergey,

I would believe they likely are OK - those numbers indicate that you 
have 12.95 dB gain for your Preamp, and that is near enough to 14 dB 
expected value shown on the schematic.  Note that .013 V = -33.74 dBm 
and .055 V = -21.21 dBm - simply subtract the two.  You should make some 
allowance for measurement error and round up to 13 dB.

If you are concerned about the absolute value of the receiver noise 
energy, a measurement of that nature is not valid.  Measure the MDS of 
the receiver and that will tell you how the receiver noise will affect 
your reception.

73,
Don W3FPR

Sergey Dan wrote:
 Hello
 I've measured K2's RX noise level (antenna terminated on 50 ohm, AGC OFF, AF
 and RF to max,
 DMM connected to P5), when PRE is ON N = 0.055v, PRE is OFF N = 0.013v.
 Are those levels OK for K2?

 Thanks
 Sergey.
   

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Re: [Elecraft] Using 2nd Rx to reduce noise

2010-01-26 Thread Bill Tippett
On Tue, Jan 26, 2010 at 12:09 PM, Vic K2VCO v...@rakefet.com wrote:

 Bill W4ZV wrote:


 Mike Keller wrote:

 Has anyone found a way to use phase cancel external noise heard in the
 main Rx using the second Rx and a noise antenna


 Not internally, but you don't need the KRX3 to do that.   You can use an
 external device such as the DXE NCC-1, MFJ-1025/1026 or Timewave ANC-4 (in
 order of effectiveness based on personal experience with all 3).  Noise
 canceling works best if the noise is a point source, although it can
 sometimes help reduce noise from a general direction (such as lightning
 QRN).


 http://www.dxengineering.com/Parts.asp?ID=1227PLID=215SecID=114DeptID=12PartNo=DXE-NCC-1
 http://www.mfjenterprises.com/Product.php?productid=MFJ-1025
 http://www.timewave.com/support/ANC-4/anc4.html


 If you have the KXV3 (the so-called 'transverter interface' which is much
 more than that) you can simply connect the noise canceller between the RX IN
 and RX OUT. This enables you to avoid using the kludgy relay in the device
 for t-r switching.


The KXV3 does make it easier to connect the main antenna, but you may still
need to protect the noise antenna input which is not routed through the
KXV3.


 Bill, is that in order of increasing or decreasing effectiveness?


Most effective is the DXE NCC-1 (also MUCH more expensive).  The MFJ-1025
works reasonably well, especially if you do W8JI's mods below,

http://www.w8ji.com/mfj-1025_1026.htm

...but it's more critical to adjust, has a higher internal noise floor and
less robust front end.  Some have had good luck with the ANC-4 but I
personally did not.

To do noise canceling internally to the K3, you would need a convenient way
to adjust both amplitude and phase.  Although amplitude can be done with RF
Gain and ATT/PRE, there is presently no adjustment for phase.  For ease of
use both amplitude and phase adjustments should be large knobs which the
K3's ergonomics preclude.  For example the easiest to use NCC-1 is nearly
the same size as a K3 itself! (4.25 X 9.5 X 9.5)

73,  Bill  W4ZV
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[Elecraft] K3: Howto install Beta firmware?

2010-01-26 Thread Ruben Navarro Huedo
I am new with the K3.
How do i install a Beta firmware?

Thank's a lot.


-- 
Rubén Navarro Huedo - EA5BZ
http://www.palotes.com
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[Elecraft] My problem with K2

2010-01-26 Thread Vincenzo Calandra


Hi all,

I have build KX1 and K1 with no problem but with my (sn. 6871) K2 i'm in
trouble.

No problem with control board and front panel.

I've performed the test of part II:

4 Mhz Oscillator calibration is ok.

PLL reference oscillator range test is ok (Fup = 12099 Mhz - Fdown =
12086 Mhz - range 13 kHz)

VCO test = 7834 Mhz (???)

VCO alignment = no 6V at left of R30! Only 0.018V... and non change
adjusting L30. :-(

I rewind T5 and verified RP3 (PLL upgrade kit) with non change.

Any one can suggest anything?

Many tanks in advance for al reply!




Vincenzo Calandra (vcalan...@libero.it) - IZ5GVP


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Re: [Elecraft] K3: ATU but a bigger version (Bill K9YEQ)

2010-01-26 Thread Phil Hystad
Petr,

Even though I am the one who started this thread with my question, I need to 
find out your opinion about the new Palstar Auto Tuner.  It is pretty good from 
what I read and if you read the reviews they are mostly very good.  Apparently 
there had been a few new product type quirks that were overcome by new firmware 
updates.

If nothing is forthcoming from Elecraft as far as news of a product, I will 
probably buy the Palstar.

73, phil, K7PEH


On Jan 26, 2010, at 9:22 AM, Petr Ourednik wrote:

 Hi,
 
 in fact there is no suitable remote legal power limit ATU on the market
 provides all required functions and capabilities. I am looking for it
 for long years. Even overpriced gears available are just stupid unusable
 boxes unfortunately so I agree that something as You are talking about
 capable to handle more than 1HP (horse power) is highly wanted.
 
 73 - Petr, OK1RP
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Re: [Elecraft] K3: Howto install Beta firmware?

2010-01-26 Thread Lyle Johnson

 How do i install a Beta firmware?

Please see  
URL:http://www.elecraft.com/K3/k3_beta_release_instructions.htm 

73,

Lyle KK7P
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Re: [Elecraft] K3 and W2IHY EQ Plus!

2010-01-26 Thread Bill K9YEQ
Lyle, given all that, would it be your recommendation to reduce the gain in
unwanted bands using the equalizer, or would it be better to increase the
gain of the wanted bands, or both to be centered on flat response?


73,

Bill
K9YEQ
K2  KX1 (Field tester); K3; W2; mini mods 


-Original Message-
From: elecraft-boun...@mailman.qth.net
[mailto:elecraft-boun...@mailman.qth.net] On Behalf Of Lyle Johnson
Sent: Tuesday, January 26, 2010 11:02 AM
To: Elecraft List
Subject: Re: [Elecraft] K3 and W2IHY EQ Plus!


 My primary goal was to eliminate the high level of background 
 noise from my VHF amplifiers when I operate SSB mode.
 

There are two main approaches to helping mitigate shack noise from Tx 
audio: Noise Gate and Downward Expansion.

A Noise Gate, such as is used in the K3, acts much like an FM squelch 
does on receive.  It looks at Tx audio amplitude and if a signal exceeds 
that amplitude, it opens the audio path for a certain period of time.  
Whenever an audio peak exceeds the threshold, the timer is 
re-triggered.  Thus, continuous speech will keep the gate open.  The 
timer is necessary to allow softer parts of speech to pass without 
distortion.

Thus, the Noise Gate is not a clipper or waveform modifier and 
introduces no crossover or other distortion when it is activated.  In 
this case, the speech overrides the noise source during speech, and the 
timer silences the audio path when there is no speech.  However, if the 
threshold is too high, then leading edge distortion may result.

A Downward Expander changes the gain (slope, or transfer function) of 
the input amplifier for signals below the threshold.  This can result in 
crossover and other distortion for the low-level components of speech.  
On the other hand, it may also result in reduced amplitude of the noise 
source itself even when speech is present due to the slope of the 
downward expansion.  Gating in the form of clipping occurs when the 
downward expansion slope results in zero gain.

The most common misadjustment of the Noise Gate is to set the threshold 
too close to the noise source's level. This can result in the noise 
source triggering the audio, resulting in a scratchy or staccato 
effect.  In most cases, *increasing* the threshold beyond that point 
will result in the desired squelching of the noise source, while still 
allowing speech to pass.

73,

Lyle KK7P



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Re: [Elecraft] NR adjust on sub?

2010-01-26 Thread Ken K3IU
With Sub Rx ON, I can toggle NR ON/OFF in Sub Rx using bset. This does 
not affect the ON/OFF status of the Main Rx. However, when I change the 
NR setting (press/hold NR) of the SubRx, that changes both the SubRx and 
Main Rx setting... just as Werner reports below.
73,
Ken K3IU
~
On 1/26/2010 12:52 PM, Dr. Werner Furlan wrote:
 on my K3 with FW 3.76 loaded I can set NR settings with BSET for the
 subreceiver, but it is then changed also for the main receiver. I can use
 NR on the main or sub or for both, but with the same NR settings for the
 same mode.

 73! de Werner OE9FWV


 Don Wilhelm schrieb am 26 Jan 2010 um 8:58:


 Jim,

 In that case it should work.  Is there any chance you are in either DATA or
 FM mode?  Noise Reduction is N/A for those modes. I don't have the sub here
 to try it, so perhaps someone who has the sub can try it on their K3 with
 3.76 beta firmware.

 73,
 Don W3FPR

 Jim Miller wrote:
  
 Should have mentioned that I was unable to set Sub NR after loading beta
 3.76 complete with new DSP FW.

 Sub works great otherwise.

 jim ab3cv

 On Mon, Jan 25, 2010 at 11:07 PM, Jim Millerj...@jtmiller.com  wrote:



 I've activated Bset but when I hold the NR button I don't get a Fx-x
 indication for setting the Sub NR.

 Didn't see anything in the manual or scanning throught the Config
 settings.

 How is this done?

 tnx

 jim ab3cv (sub newbie)


  
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Re: [Elecraft] K3: ATU but a bigger version

2010-01-26 Thread Reinaldo Leandro
I understand that the announced 2K-FA amplifier from SPE will have the
option for remote ATU and antenna switch.
Here is the link for the English brochure:

http://www.radio-ham.eu/download/Leaflet%20Expert%202K-FA%20inglese.pdf 
 
73

Reinaldo, YV5AMH 

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[mailto:elecraft-boun...@mailman.qth.net] On Behalf Of Bill K9YEQ
Sent: Tuesday, January 26, 2010 11:57
To: 'Phil Hystad'; 'Elecraft Discussion List'
Subject: Re: [Elecraft] K3: ATU but a bigger version

Phil,

I have privately requested the same as you suggest. Since there is already a
full market of amps... would love to have the auto tuner to work with my THP
HL-2.5.  The THP auto tuner doesn't quite have what I would like. Even
better, I would like a totally remote Elecraft tuner which works at/near the
antennas.  There are a couple out there, but the cost is amazing for the
complicated wiring to them.  Would be nice to be fully remote.  I did that
with an MFJ 994, which worked ok up to 600 watts, but not legal limit.


73,

Bill
K9YEQ
K2  KX1 (Field tester); K3; W2; mini mods 


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[mailto:elecraft-boun...@mailman.qth.net] On Behalf Of Phil Hystad
Sent: Monday, January 25, 2010 11:03 PM
To: Elecraft Discussion List
Subject: [Elecraft] K3: ATU but a bigger version

I really like the way that the K3 ATU works.  It has that nice push my
button and I will tune for you feel to it.

But, it is so small.  OK, kind of kidding here but it would be nice to have
a big legal limit version of this tuner.  Sure, a separate bigger box
container.  I don't really like some of the auto-tuners that I have seen
that are in automatic mode and retune behind the scenes (so to say).  I like
to have some control over my auto-tuner.

So, is there any hope that Elecraft might someday build a big 1500 watt
capable ATU along the same style as the ATU in the K3?  Knowing Elecraft, it
would be highly configurable with firmware controlled features and options.
And a kit version too of course.

73, phil, K7PEH
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[Elecraft] OT: Palstar

2010-01-26 Thread Ken Kopp
While it's not the Palstar autotuner, I do have the BT1500A for 
balanced line and it works well.  The construction is OUTSTANDING!!

73! Ken
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Re: [Elecraft] K3: ATU but a bigger version

2010-01-26 Thread Bill K9YEQ
Oh, but the ~$10k. It is a bit much for me.  The 2.5k was already a huge
bite on top of the loaded K3 I have. 


73,

Bill
K9YEQ
K2  KX1 (Field tester); K3; W2; mini mods 


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[mailto:elecraft-boun...@mailman.qth.net] On Behalf Of Reinaldo Leandro
Sent: Tuesday, January 26, 2010 12:39 PM
To: 'Elecraft Discussion List'
Subject: Re: [Elecraft] K3: ATU but a bigger version

I understand that the announced 2K-FA amplifier from SPE will have the
option for remote ATU and antenna switch.
Here is the link for the English brochure:

http://www.radio-ham.eu/download/Leaflet%20Expert%202K-FA%20inglese.pdf 
 
73

Reinaldo, YV5AMH 

-Original Message-
From: elecraft-boun...@mailman.qth.net
[mailto:elecraft-boun...@mailman.qth.net] On Behalf Of Bill K9YEQ
Sent: Tuesday, January 26, 2010 11:57
To: 'Phil Hystad'; 'Elecraft Discussion List'
Subject: Re: [Elecraft] K3: ATU but a bigger version

Phil,

I have privately requested the same as you suggest. Since there is already a
full market of amps... would love to have the auto tuner to work with my THP
HL-2.5.  The THP auto tuner doesn't quite have what I would like. Even
better, I would like a totally remote Elecraft tuner which works at/near the
antennas.  There are a couple out there, but the cost is amazing for the
complicated wiring to them.  Would be nice to be fully remote.  I did that
with an MFJ 994, which worked ok up to 600 watts, but not legal limit.


73,

Bill
K9YEQ
K2  KX1 (Field tester); K3; W2; mini mods 


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[mailto:elecraft-boun...@mailman.qth.net] On Behalf Of Phil Hystad
Sent: Monday, January 25, 2010 11:03 PM
To: Elecraft Discussion List
Subject: [Elecraft] K3: ATU but a bigger version

I really like the way that the K3 ATU works.  It has that nice push my
button and I will tune for you feel to it.

But, it is so small.  OK, kind of kidding here but it would be nice to have
a big legal limit version of this tuner.  Sure, a separate bigger box
container.  I don't really like some of the auto-tuners that I have seen
that are in automatic mode and retune behind the scenes (so to say).  I like
to have some control over my auto-tuner.

So, is there any hope that Elecraft might someday build a big 1500 watt
capable ATU along the same style as the ATU in the K3?  Knowing Elecraft, it
would be highly configurable with firmware controlled features and options.
And a kit version too of course.

73, phil, K7PEH
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Re: [Elecraft] K3 and W2IHY EQ Plus!

2010-01-26 Thread Lyle Johnson

 Lyle, given all that, would it be your recommendation to reduce the gain in
 unwanted bands using the equalizer, or would it be better to increase the
 gain of the wanted bands, or both to be centered on flat response?

In general, I suggest using cuts rather than boosts to shape the 
passband, unless the range of the cuts are insufficient to achieve the 
shaping you desire.  I apply this approach to Rx as well as Tx EQ.

73,

Lyle KK7P
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Re: [Elecraft] K3: Why can't I use my 1.8kHz filter for SSB TX?

2010-01-26 Thread Jan Erik Holm
Yes but those sources doesn´t speak.

/ Jim

On 2010-01-26 17:16, Doug Faunt N6TQS +1-510-655-8604 wrote:
 Early versions of the firmware did, in fact, allow transmission
 through the 2.1kHz filter, and that capability was removed.  I suggest
 that speculation is futile, since there are authoritative sources
 available.

 73, doug

 Date: Tue, 26 Jan 2010 08:41:18 +
 From: David Woolley (E.L)for...@david-woolley.me.uk

 One possibility is that the rig has only been type approval tested in
 that configuration, so anyone wanting to operate it with a different
 filter would require a professional RF spectrum analyzer.

 Top posted through policy, not belief.

 Brian Machesney wrote:
   reflector. The only authoritative information I found information 
 was this
   from July 2008:
 
   Until further information to the contrary is available from Elecraft, 
 you
   must select the 2.7 or 2.8 filter for SSB, Data and CW transmit. The AM
   transmit filter must be 6 kHz and the FM transmit filter must be 13 
 kHz. Any
   other settings will result in failure and a ERR TXF (Error TX Filter)
   message.
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Re: [Elecraft] OT: Palstar

2010-01-26 Thread Phil LaMarche

I owned the auto tuner and felt it was a fine piece of equipment.  However,
I didn't think the features over the manual tuner was worth the extra
600.00.  Sold it and bought the AT2K which is the best manual tuner I have
ever owned and the quality is tops.

Phil


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Subject: [Elecraft] OT: Palstar

While it's not the Palstar autotuner, I do have the BT1500A for balanced
line and it works well.  The construction is OUTSTANDING!!

73! Ken
 elecraftcov...@rfwave.net
 http://tinyurl.com/7lm3m5
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[Elecraft] FW: Re: K3: ATU but a bigger version

2010-01-26 Thread Edward Dickinson, III
Thanks for bringing the notion up, Phil.

It seems there is a fair amount of interest in a high power 'remote' ATU as
well.

If Elecraft takes up the idea of a high power (I'd enjoy a mid-power remote
unit at present) ATU, it would 'seem' that the core components could be
kitted in two variations.  Desktop/Shack version and a Remote version.
KATU-800/1500F and KATU-800/1500R...  The choice of a remote or fixed ATU
outside of the linears adds flexibility the the line.  A lower price for an
amp without an internal tuner might sell more amps as well.

I keep thinking about that 'maybe box the size/style of a K3' mention... 


73,

Dick - KA5KKT

PS  It would be interesting to know the demographics of Elecraft users as it
relates to operating goals.

---

...is there any hope that Elecraft might someday build a big 1500 watt
capable ATU along the same style as the ATU in the K3?  Knowing Elecraft, it
would be highly configurable with firmware controlled features and options.
And a kit version too of course. - Phil, K7PEH 

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Re: [Elecraft] NR adjust on sub?

2010-01-26 Thread Wayne Burdick
NR settings are per-mode, but they'll be the same for a given mode on  
each receiver. I.e., you can't (at present) have different NR settings  
for CW on main vs. CW on sub.

NR on/off is per-band/per-receiver.

This will be clarified in the next K3 manual (and before that, in the  
errata).

73,
Wayne
N6KR


 With Sub Rx ON, I can toggle NR ON/OFF in Sub Rx using bset. This does
 not affect the ON/OFF status of the Main Rx. However, when I change  
 the
 NR setting (press/hold NR) of the SubRx, that changes both the SubRx  
 and
 Main Rx setting... just as Werner reports below.
 73,
 Ken K3IU


 ~
 On 1/26/2010 12:52 PM, Dr. Werner Furlan wrote:
  on my K3 with FW 3.76 loaded I can set NR settings with BSET for the
  subreceiver, but it is then changed also for the main receiver. I  
 can use
  NR on the main or sub or for both, but with the same NR settings  
 for the
  same mode.
 
  73! de Werner OE9FWV
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Re: [Elecraft] K3 and W2IHY EQ Plus!

2010-01-26 Thread pd0psb

Still, the adjustment is a bit tricky.
A higher threshhold also has loss of softer speech as a side effect.
When room-noise and speech approach the same level the gate has a rough
time, a common situation in contests/fielddays with people and fan-cooled
equipment packed closely together :-)

Somehow I still feel a small modification to the open/close slopes could
help the gate.
A slightly less steep slope at the opening of the gate might prevent
over-sensitivity to small spikes or self-modulation by room noise/ LF
noises.
A gentler slope at closing of the gate will prevent the switching effect you
hear. A smooth slope (soft tail-out) would be much less noticable.

As it is programmed now I can imagine people think they hear cross-over
distortion, a bit similar to SSB with class C amplification.

73'
Paul
PD0PSB





Thus, the Noise Gate is not a clipper or waveform modifier and 
introduces no crossover or other distortion when it is activated.  In 
this case, the speech overrides the noise source during speech, and the 
timer silences the audio path when there is no speech.  However, if the 
threshold is too high, then leading edge distortion may result. 
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Re: [Elecraft] OT: Palstar

2010-01-26 Thread Petr Ourednik
Hi Ken,

thank You for reply and the tip for the tuner.

Unfortunately in case of AT-AUTO 1500 ... 

- inductor tended to squeal on some units
- calibration problems in many cases
- antenna mismatches although SWR 1 reported by the logic unit
- jamming the inductor coil during an attempted tune-up
- some of units does not work even new arrived from factory
- memories troubles on some units
- stepper motors and crossneedle meter are not suitable for -30C/iced wx
- more antennas switch (4-8) not presented

... it is too many reported issues for so overpriced unit.

I though about this ATU year ago but I am not able to spend so huge
amount
for some unreliable gear.

Thank You Ken for info. Congrats to Your BT1500A manual tuner which
sounds very good.

73 - Petr, OK1RP

On Tue, 26 Jan 2010 18:29:55 -, Ken Kopp
elecraftcov...@rfwave.net said:
 While it's not the Palstar autotuner, I do have the BT1500A for 
 balanced line and it's very nice.  The construction is OUTSTANDING!!
 
 73! Ken
  elecraftcov...@rfwave.net
  http://tinyurl.com/7lm3m5
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Re: [Elecraft] New K3, no Fast AGC it is same as Slow AGC

2010-01-26 Thread KU4AF

I noticed the same thing and found a note about it in the archives (TNX Don,
W3FPR). Enabling CW Text Decode forces slow AGC. The Rev B1 Owner's Manual
contained this note under Advanced Operating Features on page 31:
The K3 uses slow AGC during CW text decode, overriding the selected AGC
setting.

I don't see the note in the Rev D5 manual but I may have missed it.

John, KU4AF
Pittsboro, NC
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Re: [Elecraft] K3: ATU but a bigger version (Bill K9YEQ)

2010-01-26 Thread Petr Ourednik
Dean,

thank You very much for Your nice tip. 
Unfortunately this unit is able to handle 600W key down and mainly 
the most important antenna's switch is not presented at all. So if 
will decide for an investment into the remote controlled ATU then 
definitely I need to serve more than single antenna.

Best regards,

73 - Petr, OK1RP  

On Tue, 26 Jan 2010 09:58:10 -0800, Dean Cookson
dean.cook...@gmail.com said:
 This: http://www.hamware.de/hardware/tuner615U/at615u-d.htm looks
 somewhat promising...
 
 (Google translate does a good-enough job with the German)
 
 73,
 Dean - W6GS
 
 On Tue, Jan 26, 2010 at 9:22 AM, Petr Ourednik indi...@xsmail.com
 wrote:
  Hi,
 
  in fact there is no suitable remote legal power limit ATU on the market
  provides all required functions and capabilities. I am looking for it
  for long years. Even overpriced gears available are just stupid unusable
  boxes unfortunately so I agree that something as You are talking about
  capable to handle more than 1HP (horse power) is highly wanted.
 
  73 - Petr, OK1RP
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[Elecraft] Palstar AT-Auto

2010-01-26 Thread w7nmd
I am using an AT-Auto with my K3 3779 and is works flawlessly.
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Re: [Elecraft] K3: ATU but a bigger version

2010-01-26 Thread Don Nesbitt
Oh yes!  I find the K3 ATU just amazing and have often thought how terrific it 
would be to yank it out of the box and put it outside - and - how REALLY nice 
it would be to have it scaled up to handle at least 600 watts or even the legal 
limit - and - work seamlessly with the K3 - and - perhaps a KPA800/1500 (not to 
start up the we want our amplifiers thread - again!). - Actually, I'd settle 
for a KPA500 but that's another story!

Put me in coach, I want a Big Boy K3 ATU!  '73 es gud dxing -- Don N4HH K3/100 
#83, etc!

--- On Tue, 1/26/10, Phil Hystad k7...@comcast.net wrote:

 From: Phil Hystad k7...@comcast.net
SNIP I really like the way that the K3 ATU
 works.  It has that nice push my button and I will
 tune for you feel to it.
SNIP


  
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[Elecraft] K3 and Computer Video

2010-01-26 Thread John Huffman
I enjoy using computer programs with my K3.  For, me it adds to the 
enjoyment.

I've put a video on YouTube showing my setup, if anyone is interested.  
I find the ability of several pieces of software to operate together to 
be fascinating.

You can see the video at - http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cefcFcvbmh8

73 de K1ESE
John
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[Elecraft] TEST PSE IGNORE

2010-01-26 Thread Ken
TEST  PSE IGNORE
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[Elecraft] Palstar AT Auto

2010-01-26 Thread Greg Buhyoff
I have owned a Palstar AT Auto for 18 months with heavy use and it has been
flawless. No problems like those cited above. Certainly the best auto tuner
I have owned.  It has been an exceptional piece of equipment, like my K3.
Also, like Phil, I own a Palstar AT2K -- the best modern day manual tuner I
have owned.  YMMV.

Greg K2UM
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Re: [Elecraft] K3: ATU but a bigger version (Bill K9YEQ)

2010-01-26 Thread Phil Debbie Salas
I've been using a MFJ-998 with my K3/ALS-600 for almost two years now. 
Works great.  I also used it with an ALS-1300 that I had here for about two 
months, and the MFJ-998 easily handled the higher power of the ALS-1300. 
The MFJ-998 is primarily used with my 43-foot vertical on all bands.  I do 
have base matching on 160/80 meters, but just the unun interface on 40-10 
meters.

Phil - AD5X 

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Re: [Elecraft] My problem with K2

2010-01-26 Thread Don Wilhelm
Vincenzo,

Do you have the 'rework eliminators' installed?  If so, you changed C71 
to 120 pF, and you must also change the secondary menu entry for D19 to 
Y.  If you do not have the rework eliminators and you have not 
attempted to put in the capacitor change for C71 associated with the 
K60XV option, then check the value of C71 - it should be 82 pF.

What frequency was indicated in the K2 display when you measured the VFO 
frequency at 7834 kHz?

73,
Don W3FPR

Vincenzo Calandra wrote:
 Hi all,

 I have build KX1 and K1 with no problem but with my (sn. 6871) K2 i'm in
 trouble.

 No problem with control board and front panel.

 I've performed the test of part II:

 4 Mhz Oscillator calibration is ok.

 PLL reference oscillator range test is ok (Fup = 12099 Mhz - Fdown =
 12086 Mhz - range 13 kHz)

 VCO test = 7834 Mhz (???)

 VCO alignment = no 6V at left of R30! Only 0.018V... and non change
 adjusting L30. :-(

 I rewind T5 and verified RP3 (PLL upgrade kit) with non change.

 Any one can suggest anything?

 Many tanks in advance for al reply!




 Vincenzo Calandra (vcalan...@libero.it) - IZ5GVP



   
 

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Re: [Elecraft] K3 and W2IHY EQ Plus!

2010-01-26 Thread Jim Brown
On Tue, 26 Jan 2010 10:59:23 -0800, Lyle Johnson wrote:

In general, I suggest using cuts rather than boosts to shape the 
passband, unless the range of the cuts are insufficient to achieve the 
shaping you desire.  I apply this approach to Rx as well as Tx EQ.

Yes. In general, it is good audio practice to get rid of as much as 
possible of the frequency spectrum that is not part of what you're 
trying to use. In this case, that means maximum cut of at least the two 
lowest octave bands. Depending on the response of the microphone, it's 
possible that the third and even the fourth bands should be cut. 

The best way to home in on settings is to have a good listener tune you 
in on a receiver set for wide RX bandwidth (at least 2.7kHz), make those 
cuts, and tell you when you have gone too far. What settings are 
right, particularly in the higher octave bands, should be made in this 
way. And when you're deciding, remember that transmit speech below about 
400 Hz burns transmit power while making almost no contribution to 
speech intelligibilty. The octaves between 100 Hz and 400 Hz add body 
to your voice, but that's all. If you're ragchewing, you may want that. 
If you're chasing DX, contesting, or running QRP, you don't. 

73,

Jim Brown K9YC 


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Re: [Elecraft] NR adjust on sub?

2010-01-26 Thread Jim Miller
Operator error: didn't have the Sub turned on when doing the Bset.

Working now.

tnx
jim ab3cv
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Re: [Elecraft] K3 and Computer Video

2010-01-26 Thread Greg Buhyoff
Hi, John,

Excellent job on the video.  It answered some questions I had about both Power 
SDR and N4PY software.  It is one of the best amateur radio videos I have 
watched on Youtube.com.   Heck, if you want another career, I think Hollywood 
is calling.  Seriously, great job and very informative.  Thanks so much.

73. Greg K2UM
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[Elecraft] K3 and Computer Video

2010-01-26 Thread David and Dianne on Comcast
Hi John,

I enjoyed your video very much!

Excellent  job and very enjoyable.

73 de N1LQ-Dave
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[Elecraft] the new guy in town

2010-01-26 Thread k6rb
Well, I finally did it - bought a K3/100 kit. I have a K2/100 that I
bought from Trey (N5KO) some years ago, and which I take on trips
sometimes, but I have really, really wanted to get a K3 for a long time.
My problem has been that I use a pair of FT-1000s (one D and one non-D) in
SO2R and those two radios just keep on going like the energizer bunny. So,
having just gotten a well-deserved bonus, I earmarked a portion of it for
the K3.

I was going to just leave the boxes unopened in my shack until I got back
from Barcelona in mid-February. But, on Sunday morning I decided to open
them up. Then, I did a quick inventory. Next thing I knew I was sitting
there with an anti-static wristband dumping out the hardware in a white
plastic dish.

To cut the chase, last night (Monday) I came home from work and finished
the kit. And, it worked first time. I think the kit is well conceived.
There were only a couple of times I was cussing because I needed to put a
4-40 1/4 screw with lock washer in a place too small to fit my fingers. I
felt like a brain surgeon trying to insert the screws with a long-nose
pliers and dropping the screw or washer or both numerous times. But,
persistence paid off, and it sure is a neat little radio.

I have one question (suggestion?) though. After following the directions
where you first button it all up without the KPA3, do the LP config and
calibration, then pull off the top and bottom covers and install the KPA3,
why not just finish the installation of the KPA3, first, then doing the LP
and HP stuff, after. Since the KPA3 is not configured by default, you
should be able to do the same config and calibration setups with it in
place. Then, afterward, configure the KPA3 on and nor and do the HP
power calibration. It would safe the hassle of first buttoning it all up,
then having to remove the top and lower bottom covers, and then having to
reinstall them all again, afterward. Not a big thing - maybe an extra 10
or 15 minutes? Over all, though, a very well engineered product and kit.
Kudos to Eric and Wayne.

Rob K6RB

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Re: [Elecraft] the new guy in town

2010-01-26 Thread Don Wilhelm
Rob,

You apparently have a good deal of confidence in your building and 
assembly skills - that is great, but not all have the same confidence 
level, and the checks at the Low power level are important to those who 
do not also have that confidence level.  The manual speaks to the 
lowest common denominator so those who need verification that the low 
power stages work properly will have that validation.  The result is an 
orderly process - the basic K3 works, and if the KPA3 causes problems, 
one should look to the KPA3 or the steps that were done during the 
installation of the KPA3.

For those who have great confidence levels (and good troubleshooting 
skills), you are free to do it any way that works for you.  For the 
average K3 builder, the situation is not the same.  Consider the K2 
situation - I have confidence that I can find any problem in a complete 
K2, so if I build one for a client, I skip the intermediate test and 
alignment parts, and wait until the assembly is complete before 
beginning alignment and test.  That approach usually saves me time, but 
at times it causes me to dig into the K2 to find what is the problem 
source.  Yes, my experience level allows me to do that efficiently, but 
new builders do not have that experience level - hence the instructions 
are geared to test the configuration that has been assembled before 
moving to the next step.

73,
Don W3FPR

k...@baymoon.com wrote:
 Well, I finally did it - bought a K3/100 kit. I have a K2/100 that I
 bought from Trey (N5KO) some years ago, and which I take on trips
 sometimes, but I have really, really wanted to get a K3 for a long time.
 My problem has been that I use a pair of FT-1000s (one D and one non-D) in
 SO2R and those two radios just keep on going like the energizer bunny. So,
 having just gotten a well-deserved bonus, I earmarked a portion of it for
 the K3.

 I was going to just leave the boxes unopened in my shack until I got back
 from Barcelona in mid-February. But, on Sunday morning I decided to open
 them up. Then, I did a quick inventory. Next thing I knew I was sitting
 there with an anti-static wristband dumping out the hardware in a white
 plastic dish.

 To cut the chase, last night (Monday) I came home from work and finished
 the kit. And, it worked first time. I think the kit is well conceived.
 There were only a couple of times I was cussing because I needed to put a
 4-40 1/4 screw with lock washer in a place too small to fit my fingers. I
 felt like a brain surgeon trying to insert the screws with a long-nose
 pliers and dropping the screw or washer or both numerous times. But,
 persistence paid off, and it sure is a neat little radio.

 I have one question (suggestion?) though. After following the directions
 where you first button it all up without the KPA3, do the LP config and
 calibration, then pull off the top and bottom covers and install the KPA3,
 why not just finish the installation of the KPA3, first, then doing the LP
 and HP stuff, after. Since the KPA3 is not configured by default, you
 should be able to do the same config and calibration setups with it in
 place. Then, afterward, configure the KPA3 on and nor and do the HP
 power calibration. It would safe the hassle of first buttoning it all up,
 then having to remove the top and lower bottom covers, and then having to
 reinstall them all again, afterward. Not a big thing - maybe an extra 10
 or 15 minutes? Over all, though, a very well engineered product and kit.
 Kudos to Eric and Wayne.

 Rob K6RB
   

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[Elecraft] Robert Friess's 100watt amp

2010-01-26 Thread dw
Hey Gang,
Is anyone using the 100 watt amp shown on the Elecraft Hands-On page?


Tnx,
N1BBR
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[Elecraft] N2CQ QRP Contest Calendar: Jan 27 - Feb 26, 2010

2010-01-26 Thread Ken Newman

~
N2CQ QRP CALENDAR
Jan 27 to Feb 26, 2010  
~
80 METER FOXHUNT (CW) *** QRP Contest ***
Each Tuesday Thru Mar 16, 2010
9 PM to 10:29 PM Eastern Time USA
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[Elecraft] K3 DRAKE R4C Emulation

2010-01-26 Thread Don Rasmussen
K3BSR v7.1

http://www.zerobeat.net/mediawiki/index.php/K3_DRAKE_R4C_Emulation
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[Elecraft] Any help with concepts about BFO and TX offset alignment?

2010-01-26 Thread Dr John H Farmer
Hello all,

I'm progressing on my build of K1 #2822 and I've hit a conceptual block in my 
understanding of an aspect of the alignment process.  I apologise if this has 
been discussed  before on this list.  I've read through the archives and can't 
find a very clear explanation. I'm hoping someone can help out.

It relates to what I'm actually doing when adjusting the Tx offset with C13.

This is what I understand to be true:

I've chosen 600hz as my sidetone and the audio tone  I want to hear receiving 
CW.  I need to adjust the BFO frequency to be 600hz above the carrier frequency 
of the received signal, in order to hear that 600hz beat tone.  If the BFO 
offset is set 600hz above the received carrier, then when I hear the 600hz tone 
on receive,  I know that I'm zero beat with that station and that the 
frequency indicated on the K1 display will be that station's carrier frequency 
and also MY transmit frequency, key down.  I adjust this BFO offset as 
described in the manual,  using C20 and the K1's generated 600hz sidetone as 
the reference audio signal.  This sets the BFO frequency at 600hz above the 
carrier.  I've got a good musical ear, so doing that is not a challenge for me.

What I don't understand is what I'm actually doing in the next step -  
adjusting Transmit offset, with C13?  I think I understand the concept of the 
BFO offset, but I don't  know why I also need to alter my transmitted carrier 
frequency.  I see that C13 is pulling up/down the crystal oscillator frequency 
@ the Tx mixer.  

In the end, when properly configured,  I want the frequency displayed on the K1 
to indicate the carrier frequency of my transmitted signal.  I want to hear 
600hz audio when I'm tuned to the carrier frequency of a station I'm receiving. 

So, why is it necessary to adjust my Transmit/carrier frequency with C13?  

Sorry if this is a naive question, but I'm new to all this and have never had 
to think it through before.  

Many thanks to all,

John
VK7JB 




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[Elecraft] K3 control software linux wine

2010-01-26 Thread rrkrr
Has anyone had any luck running with control software for the K3 running
under Linux?
In particular, if anyone has run the N4PY software under the wine
emulator, I would like to hear your opinions about it.

Bob K4ERR
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Re: [Elecraft] Any help with concepts about BFO and TX offset alignment?

2010-01-26 Thread Don Wilhelm
John,

Spectrogram helps, so go to www.n0ss.net and read the details.
Do the following steps in order:
1) set the BFO frequency to position the center of the FL3 passband at 
your chosen sidetone pitch (600 Hz in your case)/
2)Then with Spectrogran still active, set the switch on the bottom of 
the K1 to the TEST position and adjust C13 to produce a peak response at 
your chosen sidetone pitch (600 Hz).
That is all there is to  aligning the TX offet to your chosen sidetone 
pitch.  Set the switch on the bottom of the K1 RF board to OPER and go 
on with the other alignment procedures.

If you choose not to use Spectrogram, then follow the instructions in 
the manual - both will produce the correct results - Spectrogram does 
provide a visual display that many find easy to use.

After those alignments, you should do the CAL OPF on each band to make 
the received frequency correct on the K1 display.  The order of these 
adjustments is important, attempting to do the CAL OPF before aligning 
the BFO passband and adjusting the TX offset will lead to frustration.

73,
Don W3FPR



Dr John H Farmer wrote:
 Hello all,

 I'm progressing on my build of K1 #2822 and I've hit a conceptual block in my 
 understanding of an aspect of the alignment process.  I apologise if this has 
 been discussed  before on this list.  I've read through the archives and 
 can't find a very clear explanation. I'm hoping someone can help out.

 It relates to what I'm actually doing when adjusting the Tx offset with C13.

 This is what I understand to be true:

 I've chosen 600hz as my sidetone and the audio tone  I want to hear receiving 
 CW.  I need to adjust the BFO frequency to be 600hz above the carrier 
 frequency of the received signal, in order to hear that 600hz beat tone.  If 
 the BFO offset is set 600hz above the received carrier, then when I hear the 
 600hz tone on receive,  I know that I'm zero beat with that station and 
 that the frequency indicated on the K1 display will be that station's carrier 
 frequency and also MY transmit frequency, key down.  I adjust this BFO offset 
 as described in the manual,  using C20 and the K1's generated 600hz sidetone 
 as the reference audio signal.  This sets the BFO frequency at 600hz above 
 the carrier.  I've got a good musical ear, so doing that is not a challenge 
 for me.

 What I don't understand is what I'm actually doing in the next step -  
 adjusting Transmit offset, with C13?  I think I understand the concept of the 
 BFO offset, but I don't  know why I also need to alter my transmitted carrier 
 frequency.  I see that C13 is pulling up/down the crystal oscillator 
 frequency @ the Tx mixer.  

 In the end, when properly configured,  I want the frequency displayed on the 
 K1 to indicate the carrier frequency of my transmitted signal.  I want to 
 hear 600hz audio when I'm tuned to the carrier frequency of a station I'm 
 receiving. 

 So, why is it necessary to adjust my Transmit/carrier frequency with C13?  

 Sorry if this is a naive question, but I'm new to all this and have never had 
 to think it through before.  

 Many thanks to all,

 John
 VK7JB 
   
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Re: [Elecraft] New K3, no Fast AGC it is same as Slow AGC

2010-01-26 Thread Dean44

Turning off the text decode solved the problem, I now have a fast and a slow
AGC.

Thanks!

(And thanks to Elecraft for the great customer service!)
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Re: [Elecraft] K3 DRAKE R4C Emulation

2010-01-26 Thread Richard S. Lindzen
Dear Don,

That's great.  I really miss my old R4C.

73,

Dick, KA1SA

At 09:51 PM 1/26/2010, Don Rasmussen wrote:
K3BSR v7.1

http://www.zerobeat.net/mediawiki/index.php/K3_DRAKE_R4C_Emulation
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Re: [Elecraft] K3 DRAKE R4C Emulation

2010-01-26 Thread Jessie Oberreuter

  Wow!  Makes me want to build a physical R-4C shell with a serial 
interface on the back that's just a front end for a variety of modern 
rigs :).  There might even be a market for the micro-controller kit!



On Tue, 26 Jan 2010, Richard S. Lindzen wrote:

 Dear Don,

 That's great.  I really miss my old R4C.

 73,

 Dick, KA1SA

 At 09:51 PM 1/26/2010, Don Rasmussen wrote:
 K3BSR v7.1

 http://www.zerobeat.net/mediawiki/index.php/K3_DRAKE_R4C_Emulation
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