Re: [Elecraft] [K3] K3 USB, Serial Drivers, and HRD Connection

2010-03-10 Thread Julian, G4ILO


N8LP wrote:
 
 I have had better luck with adapters that use an FTDI chipset, but the
 answer isn't that simple. It all depends on OS, proper driver for that OS
 and possible conflicts with other devices/programs which create virtual
 serial ports. If you want to try an inexpensive adapter with FTDI chipset,
 look at byterunner.com. They have a number of choices, and list the
 chipset brand for each one. 
 

I'll second that. Also a lot of folks here have recommended Keyspan
adapters. The advantage, I'm told, is that it has the screws to fix on the
back of the K3. Other adapters have nuts, because they are designed to have
a cable plugged in to them.

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[Elecraft] If I hear the C.O.R. clicking, should I disconnect the RX antenna?

2010-03-10 Thread Jon K Hellan
Hi

I'm assuming that if I hear the carrier operated relay clicking, that's a Bad 
Thing (TM), and I should
disconnect the receiving antenna. Is this correct?

73
Jon LA4RT
Trondheim, Norway
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Re: [Elecraft] Any Consideration of a Receive Only K3?

2010-03-10 Thread lstavenhagen

Actually, the K3/10 is far less expensive than its nearest competitors as far
as RX performance from what I can see. Even to get close, you have to spend
5 grand (i.e. for a Flex plus computer, some of the top end rigs from the
big three, etc). In fact, the only RX I've seen that exceeds the K3 on
anything (at least on paper) is the Icom 7800 - and at that it seems to only
have a higher IP3 and falls behind elsewhere. And that rig will blow a
possibly fatal sized hole in your savings/retirement account, etc. 

Er, so I'm a little mystified by the thought that the K3 is expensive or
just has too much stuff in the box and needs to be pared down?

Seems like the highest bang/buck ratio, far far and away, available in
amateur radio already from what I see. Just don't plug in the mike or key hi
hi...

73,
LS
W5QD
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Re: [Elecraft] Serial #4019 is on the air, and I have a few questions...

2010-03-10 Thread Mike
There are two menus in the K3, MAIN and CONFIG, both accessed by 
pressing the same button. You can either TAP (a quick down/up) or HOLD 
(for a second or two) a button.
If you're not finding the CONFIG menu entries, are you sure you're 
turning on the correct menu? When you press the button, does it say 
CONFIG or MAIN? You have to hold the button for a second or two for the 
CONFIG portion. Then you dial thru the items with the B VFO knob. 
They're in alphabetical order.

73, Mike NF4L

MeLikeyTacos wrote:
 Hello everyone,
 I ordered a K3/100 Feb. 22, received it yesterday March 8.  I've been
 messing around with it and now have it on the air in a basic fashion, but I
 have a few questions regarding how to set it up further.

 For starters, I got the Proset K2 headset with it.  I was under the
 impression that I could use the microphone/headphone jacks in the rear, but
 this doesn't seem to be the case.  When trying to use the rear jack, even
 with the mic gain all the way up I can't hear myself in the monitor, and it
 only outputs around 5W on voice peaks when set at 100W.  I've read the
 manual for both the radio and the headset and am using the settings
 specified.  Also in the manual I saw a reference to changing the voice
 transmit gain using the CONFIG: TXG VOICE menu setting, but I can't find
 that setting in the config menu.  I eventually gave up and started using the
 8-pin adapter for the front mic jack, and now it works, but looks ugly.  I
 would much rather use the rear jack.

 Second issue is getting the K3 connected to my Drake L-4B amp, specifically
 the ALC connection.  Since I bought the 6 meter preamp I already have the
 15-pin ACC connector, and I was going to just attach an ALC lead to that
 connector.  It looks like I need to use pins 15 and 12, correct?  

 Also with the ALC function, in the manual on page 27 it says External ALC
 is set up using the CONFIG:EXT ALC menu entry.  However, like with the
 CONFIG: TXG VOICE, for the life of me I cannot find that menu entry in
 either of the menus.  Am I missing something or is it simply not there?

 So those are my two hiccups so far, otherwise I am really enjoying the
 radio.  And if any of you are also using a Drake L-4B with your K3, I'd love
 to hear any tips/advice/settings I should be aware of.

 Thanks!
   


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Re: [Elecraft] Serial #4019 is on the air, and I have a few questions...

2010-03-10 Thread ON4WIX
Maybe the syntax in the manual is a bit confusing if you're not used to 
it...

When the manual says CONFIG:TXG VOICE, it means that you have to look for 
the TXG VOICE entry in the CONFIG memory.
In the same fashion, MAIN: LCD BRT refers to the LCD BRT entry in the 
MAIN menu.

Hope this clears up some of the confusion.

73 and enjoy your new radio!

Glenn ON4WIX
- Original Message - 
From: Mike n...@nf4l.com
To: MeLikeyTacos jose.point...@gmail.com
Cc: elecraft@mailman.qth.net
Sent: Wednesday, March 10, 2010 2:03 PM
Subject: Re: [Elecraft] Serial #4019 is on the air,and I have a few 
questions...


 There are two menus in the K3, MAIN and CONFIG, both accessed by
 pressing the same button. You can either TAP (a quick down/up) or HOLD
 (for a second or two) a button.
 If you're not finding the CONFIG menu entries, are you sure you're
 turning on the correct menu? When you press the button, does it say
 CONFIG or MAIN? You have to hold the button for a second or two for the
 CONFIG portion. Then you dial thru the items with the B VFO knob.
 They're in alphabetical order.

 73, Mike NF4L

 MeLikeyTacos wrote:
 Hello everyone,
 I ordered a K3/100 Feb. 22, received it yesterday March 8.  I've been
 messing around with it and now have it on the air in a basic fashion, but 
 I
 have a few questions regarding how to set it up further.

 For starters, I got the Proset K2 headset with it.  I was under the
 impression that I could use the microphone/headphone jacks in the rear, 
 but
 this doesn't seem to be the case.  When trying to use the rear jack, even
 with the mic gain all the way up I can't hear myself in the monitor, and 
 it
 only outputs around 5W on voice peaks when set at 100W.  I've read the
 manual for both the radio and the headset and am using the settings
 specified.  Also in the manual I saw a reference to changing the voice
 transmit gain using the CONFIG: TXG VOICE menu setting, but I can't find
 that setting in the config menu.  I eventually gave up and started using 
 the
 8-pin adapter for the front mic jack, and now it works, but looks ugly. 
 I
 would much rather use the rear jack.

 Second issue is getting the K3 connected to my Drake L-4B amp, 
 specifically
 the ALC connection.  Since I bought the 6 meter preamp I already have the
 15-pin ACC connector, and I was going to just attach an ALC lead to 
 that
 connector.  It looks like I need to use pins 15 and 12, correct?

 Also with the ALC function, in the manual on page 27 it says External 
 ALC
 is set up using the CONFIG:EXT ALC menu entry.  However, like with the
 CONFIG: TXG VOICE, for the life of me I cannot find that menu entry in
 either of the menus.  Am I missing something or is it simply not there?

 So those are my two hiccups so far, otherwise I am really enjoying the
 radio.  And if any of you are also using a Drake L-4B with your K3, I'd 
 love
 to hear any tips/advice/settings I should be aware of.

 Thanks!



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Re: [Elecraft] Any Consideration of a Receive Only K3?

2010-03-10 Thread drewko
Instead of removing circuitry from the K3 for SWL use, why not add
some... 

For SWLing the best thing that could happen to the K3 would be to add
an internal mains power supply (for receive use only). Then the K3
would be a self-contained receiver instead of having to be tethered to
an external supply. An external supply is an acceptable limitation for
a transmitter but very unsuitable for a light, portable receiver. 

I suppose a 1-amp wall wart having a power-pole plug would do the
job, as long as you are careful not to transmit. Still, I'm not too
crazy about wall wart supplies-- got a whole drawer full of them. It
would be great if the K3 had a standard IEC power cord socket so it
could be used as a grab and go receiver. 

Also, for SWLing the K3 could use a better scanner, and frequency
memory management.

73,
Drew
AF2Z



On Tue, 09 Mar 2010 11:17:40 -0800, Dave Rickmers wrote:

A version minus the 12 Watt exciter would be very easy to implement, 
would it not?  The SWL BCBDXer community is interested.  The DSP 
synchronous detector will be a major attraction for shortwave listeners.

Dave Rickmers
KD6IL
K3 #3842
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Re: [Elecraft] [K3] K3 USB, Serial Drivers, and HRD Connection

2010-03-10 Thread David Fleming
Actually the Keyspan adapters do not attach directly to the K3. They require a 
9-pin m/f serial cable to run from the Keyspan device to the K3. I've found the 
Keyspan devices (and drivers) to be the best solution for OS X. I've also had 
good success with the FTDI adapters. I believe the higher reliability of these 
adapters is directed related to the quality of the drivers rather than the 
hardware itself.
 
David, W4SMT

- 
 
Julian, G4ILO wrote:
 
I'll second that. Also a lot of folks here have recommended Keyspan
adapters. The advantage, I'm told, is that it has the screws to fix on the
back of the K3. Other adapters have nuts, because they are designed to have
a cable plugged in to them.

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Re: [Elecraft] If I hear the C.O.R. clicking, should I disconnect the RX antenna?

2010-03-10 Thread Don Wilhelm
Jon,

Yes, that is correct - you may reduce power, disconnect the receive 
antenna or physically separate the receive antenna from the transmit 
antenna.  Any one or all may work to cure the condition.

73,
Don W3FPR

Jon K Hellan wrote:
 I'm assuming that if I hear the carrier operated relay clicking, that's a Bad 
 Thing (TM), and I should
 disconnect the receiving antenna. Is this correct?
   

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Re: [Elecraft] K3 SO2R Question

2010-03-10 Thread K5WA
Jim,

 

As a follow up to my post about coax stubs yesterday, Dick, K6KR sent me the
Inrad link below in case you want to buy a book to help you through SO2R
interference.  I also did some Googling and found a VERY good and concise
description of the coax stub filters and their implementation in an
automated environment at Top Ten Devices.  You could take the filter
information and build coax stubs for a manual implementation if you didn't
want to use the automation components.  Both sources are from W2VJN, George
Cutsogeorge, and should help you get to where you want to be with your SO2R
station so you don't blow out the front end of your K3s.

 

http://www.qth.com/topten/apnote2.htm

 

http://www.inrad.net/product.php?productid=248
http://www.inrad.net/product.php?productid=248cat=148page=1
cat=148page=1

 

73,

Bob K5WA

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[Elecraft] usb to serial

2010-03-10 Thread Gary Lee
I have had great luck with a thing called an edgeport

made by insideout networks.
Not sure if it exists anymore.  They offered 4, 8, and 16 port versions that 
I know of.
Gets power from the usb port, and serials can be defined as rs232 or 422. 
Supports all the hardware handshake lines.
All my k3 connections are through this device under windows xp, and never 
had a problem.
Hope this helps someone. 

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Re: [Elecraft] [K3] K3 USB, Serial Drivers, and HRD Connection

2010-03-10 Thread Guy Olinger K2AV
I would second the notion on the drivers.

It has not been mentioned in this thread, but I was having troubles
with the Prolific USB/serial adapter (bought from Elecraft) on my new
Win 7 64 bit computer.  There finally (last 3 4 weeks) was a new
driver set out there with a much later build date (Dec 02 2009) than I
had seen before, and specifically marked for Win 7 on the page.  It
bumped up their version number from 1.0.6.26 to 1.1.0.

I am using it now and odd problems seem to have gone away, including
some BSOD issues. I cannot say if any of the blizzard of Win 7 changes
had anything to do with it.

73, Guy.

On Wed, Mar 10, 2010 at 9:34 AM, David Fleming df...@yahoo.com wrote:
 Actually the Keyspan adapters do not attach directly to the K3. They require 
 a 9-pin m/f serial cable to run from the Keyspan device to the K3. I've found 
 the Keyspan devices (and drivers) to be the best solution for OS X. I've also 
 had good success with the FTDI adapters. I believe the higher reliability of 
 these adapters is directed related to the quality of the drivers rather than 
 the hardware itself.

 David, W4SMT

 -

 Julian, G4ILO wrote:

 I'll second that. Also a lot of folks here have recommended Keyspan
 adapters. The advantage, I'm told, is that it has the screws to fix on the
 back of the K3. Other adapters have nuts, because they are designed to have
 a cable plugged in to them.

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Re: [Elecraft] usb to serial

2010-03-10 Thread Wes Stewart
I have a four-port Edgeport and it works great for everything *except* the K3 
utility.  But then I have no end of trouble with the utility anyway.

Once I finally got it sort of working, opening the utility finds the K3 and 
reports status.  However, if I try to test communications or refresh port 
list the program simply closes.

I resort to a Quatech USB-Serial for any firmware installs and keep my fingers 
crossed.

Wes  N7WS

--- On Wed, 3/10/10, Gary Lee kb9...@arrl.net wrote:

 From: Gary Lee kb9...@arrl.net
 Subject: [Elecraft] usb to serial
 To: Elecraft Reflector elecraft@mailman.qth.net
 Date: Wednesday, March 10, 2010, 8:25 AM
 I have had great luck with a thing
 called an edgeport
 
 made by insideout networks.
 Not sure if it exists anymore.  They offered 4, 8, and
 16 port versions that 
 I know of.
 Gets power from the usb port, and serials can be defined as
 rs232 or 422. 
 Supports all the hardware handshake lines.
 All my k3 connections are through this device under windows
 xp, and never 
 had a problem.
 Hope this helps someone. 
 
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Re: [Elecraft] [K3] K3 USB, Serial Drivers, and HRD Connection

2010-03-10 Thread WILLIS COOKE
Guy, have you used the new driver with N1MM, XMlog or other Visual Basic built 
program?  I tried the Prolific USB/Serial with my Win 7 machine with the 
November driver.  It worked great with the Elecraft program, but would not 
control my K3 with N1MM or XMlog.  Have you tried keying with DTR with the 
adapter?
 Willis 'Cookie' Cooke 
K5EWJ 





From: Guy Olinger K2AV olin...@bellsouth.net
To: df...@yahoo.com
Cc: elecraft@mailman.qth.net; G4ILOJulian julian.g4...@gmail.com
Sent: Wed, March 10, 2010 9:53:59 AM
Subject: Re: [Elecraft] [K3] K3 USB, Serial Drivers, and HRD Connection

I would second the notion on the drivers.

It has not been mentioned in this thread, but I was having troubles
with the Prolific USB/serial adapter (bought from Elecraft) on my new
Win 7 64 bit computer.  There finally (last 3 4 weeks) was a new
driver set out there with a much later build date (Dec 02 2009) than I
had seen before, and specifically marked for Win 7 on the page.  It
bumped up their version number from 1.0.6.26 to 1.1.0.

I am using it now and odd problems seem to have gone away, including
some BSOD issues. I cannot say if any of the blizzard of Win 7 changes
had anything to do with it.

73, Guy.



  
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Re: [Elecraft] [K3] K3 USB, Serial Drivers, and HRD Connection

2010-03-10 Thread Phil Hystad
I went to grab the latest Prolific driver (2009/12/2) and loaded that I was 
able to get a connection.  The Prolific COM5 port did not show up on the HRD 
until I set the com port driver properties speed to 34K.  That part of this I 
do not understand but I will live with it.  However, in spite of that 
properties setting of the speed, the HRD program would not successfully connect 
(and, read frequency) until I set the port speed to 4800 on the HRD connection 
dialog.

I need to read more on my K3 to see if it has auto-detect speed or if it is set 
to 4800.

73, phil, K7PEH


On Mar 9, 2010, at 8:19 PM, Phil Hystad wrote:

 Dave,
 
 Thanks for your comments and suggestions but I should not need to change the 
 com port number.  I have been scanning the Internet and finding that there is 
 no lack of problems with the prolific drivers and I am thinking I might just 
 go buy some other interface.
 
 I am willing to go out and buy another serial/USB interface cable if someone 
 suggests one that will work both with the K3 Utility as well as HRD (I do not 
 need this to run simultaneously though).
 
 73, phil, K7PEH
 
 
 On Mar 9, 2010, at 7:54 PM, David Herring, K6DCH wrote:
 
 There may be a way to tell you prolific drivers to be something else other 
 than com5...say maybe com3?
 
 I have a similar setup but with different serial interface and hence 
 different drivers. I had to set the driver to be, in my case, com2 in order 
 for HRD to use it.
 
 73,
 Dave. K6DCH
 
 Sent from my iPhone
 
 On Mar 9, 2010, at 5:44 PM, Phil Hystad k7...@comcast.net wrote:
 
 I rarely dip into my Windows laptop but I wanted to check out something 
 with HRD (Ham Radio Deluxe) so I thought I would hook it up to my K3 (I had 
 it configured to work with my Icom 756 Pro III already).  So, I chose to do 
 a new connection setup for the K3 after I had setup the serial interface 
 (using the serial/USB cable from Elecraft).  I had already run the K3 USB 
 so I figured this should work with HRD.
 
 But, problems.  I am wondering if HRD can use the driver setup for this 
 serial interface?  I first ran HRD and when I did the new connection I had 
 COM3  available but nothing else.  I tried with COM3, no good.  So, I 
 shutdown HRD and started up K3 USB utility.  It listed COM5 (not COM3).  I 
 did the connection and port test and all seems to work.  I shutdown the K3 
 USB utility.  Started up HRD and no COM5 is available.
 
 So, it seems like HRD does not see the ports created by the driver 
 installed (Prolific drivers) for the Elecraft Serial/USB interface.
 
 Before I start debugging this problem maybe there is an obvious answer from 
 those who have already done this?  Is there something that I am missing?  
 Does anyone successfully use HRD with the Prolific drivers and the Elecraft 
 supplied serial/USB cable?
 
 73, phil, K7PEH
 
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Re: [Elecraft] Any Consideration of a Receive Only K3?

2010-03-10 Thread Alan Bloom
This sounds like a wonderful business opportunity for someone.  Buy
K3/10 kits from Elecraft.  Build them up and add an AC power supply in
the space where the 100-watt PA normally goes.  Market them to the SWL
crowd at a modest profit.

Al N1AL


On Wed, 2010-03-10 at 08:36 -0500, drewko wrote:
 Instead of removing circuitry from the K3 for SWL use, why not add
 some... 
 
 For SWLing the best thing that could happen to the K3 would be to add
 an internal mains power supply (for receive use only). Then the K3
 would be a self-contained receiver instead of having to be tethered to
 an external supply. An external supply is an acceptable limitation for
 a transmitter but very unsuitable for a light, portable receiver. 
 
 I suppose a 1-amp wall wart having a power-pole plug would do the
 job, as long as you are careful not to transmit. Still, I'm not too
 crazy about wall wart supplies-- got a whole drawer full of them. It
 would be great if the K3 had a standard IEC power cord socket so it
 could be used as a grab and go receiver. 
 
 Also, for SWLing the K3 could use a better scanner, and frequency
 memory management.
 
 73,
 Drew
 AF2Z


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Re: [Elecraft] EQP (Elecraft QSO Party) this weekend -- rules updated

2010-03-10 Thread Wes Stewart
Regarding the CC award.

Since the award doesn't appear to require the actual exchange of S/Ns (although 
that may be the unspoken intent) and an increasing number of DXpeditions are 
using K3s, we may have many contacts that would apply to this award if only we 
knew the S/N.

Is there any plan to make known the ownership/usage of K3s by S/N in some 
repository?

Wes  N7WS

--- On Tue, 3/9/10, Wayne Burdick n...@elecraft.com wrote:

 
 You can also work toward an Elecraft WAS or CC award:
 
      http://www.elecraft.com/elecraft_awards.htm


  
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Re: [Elecraft] EQP (Elecraft QSO Party) this weekend -- rules updated

2010-03-10 Thread Eric Swartz - WA6HHQ, Elecraft
Hi Wes,

We can't release that info for privacy reasons. But I do believe there 
is an on-line voluntary registry.

73, Eric  WA6HHQ
===

On 3/10/2010 9:11 AM, Wes Stewart wrote:
 Regarding the CC award.

 Since the award doesn't appear to require the actual exchange of S/Ns 
 (although that may be the unspoken intent) and an increasing number of 
 DXpeditions are using K3s, we may have many contacts that would apply to this 
 award if only we knew the S/N.

 Is there any plan to make known the ownership/usage of K3s by S/N in some 
 repository?

 Wes  N7WS
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Re: [Elecraft] EQP (Elecraft QSO Party) this weekend -- rules updated

2010-03-10 Thread Wes Stewart


--- On Wed, 3/10/10, Eric Swartz - WA6HHQ, Elecraft e...@elecraft.com wrote:

 But I do
 believe there 
 is an on-line voluntary registry.


That's what I was looking for.


  
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Re: [Elecraft] EQP (Elecraft QSO Party) this weekend -- rules updated

2010-03-10 Thread Dick Dievendorff
http://www.zerobeat.net/mediawiki/index.php/K3_Serial_Numbers

It's very out of date.

Dick, K6KR


-Original Message-
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[mailto:elecraft-boun...@mailman.qth.net] On Behalf Of Wes Stewart
Sent: Wednesday, March 10, 2010 10:00 AM
To: ElecraftEric Swartz - WA6HHQ
Cc: Elecraft Reflector; Wayne Burdick
Subject: Re: [Elecraft] EQP (Elecraft QSO Party) this weekend -- rules
updated



--- On Wed, 3/10/10, Eric Swartz - WA6HHQ, Elecraft e...@elecraft.com
wrote:

 But I do
 believe there 
 is an on-line voluntary registry.


That's what I was looking for.


  
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[Elecraft] FS: K3 500 Hz filter

2010-03-10 Thread Robert Charlotte Higgins
Never installed.  -.80 off set.  $90 shipped in US

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Re: [Elecraft] [K3] K3 USB, Serial Drivers, and HRD Connection

2010-03-10 Thread Lyle Johnson


 I need to read more on my K3 to see if it has auto-detect speed or if it is 
 set to 4800.

It set in a menu, and defaults to 4800. It does not auto-detect.

73,

Lyle KK7P
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Re: [Elecraft] Serial #4019 is on the air, and I have a few questions...

2010-03-10 Thread MeLikeyTacos

Thanks for all the replies.  I've found the menu items I was looking for.  I
played around with it last night, hooked it up to my amp, and I think I've
just about got everything set how I like it.  It's a fantastic little radio
and I'm still surprised that something like this is a product of the USA! 
For the money, I really don't think you can get any better from
'Yaesucomwood'.  

Now if only the Sun would cooperate.  It figures, we've had good spots and
activity so far this year...then I buy a new radio, and BAM no activity.  I
must've jinxed it, haha.


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Re: [Elecraft] Any Consideration of a Receive Only K3?

2010-03-10 Thread Bill W4ZV


lstavenhagen wrote:
 
 Actually, the K3/10 is far less expensive than its nearest competitors as
 far as RX performance from what I can see.
 

I disagree.  Perseus is $1199 in the US and is the current hot ticket for
SWLers.  Why?  Because it can receive the entire MW band for recording and
analysis later.  RX performance is comparable to a K3 (maybe better) and
Perseus can receive the entire 10 kHz - 30 MHz range as is (the K3 cannot). 

http://www.ssbusa.com/perseus.html

73,  Bill
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[Elecraft] K3 Diversity and mode changes

2010-03-10 Thread Graham Kimbell (G3TCT)
I'm playing with diversity operation and find that when I change modes say from 
usb to cw, the main rx changes frequency slightly to keep the received tone the 
same (as expected), but the sub rx doesn't change frequency.  
This is not a big deal because I can tap A-B to force the frequencies equal, 
but does anyone know if this is usual or if I have something set wrong?

f/w 3.77

TIA
Graham
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Re: [Elecraft] Audio dropouts while tuning in K3 SubRX

2010-03-10 Thread Rich - K1HTV
Hi Cookie. Which version of K3 firmware are you using? It's odd that the click
is heard only on the sub and not the main. Oh, BTW, I forgot to mention that the
problem occurred when running the two receivers independently with the VFOs not
locked and not in the DIVERSITY mode. Is that the way you tested your K3?
 
73,
Rich - K1HTV

  _  

From: WILLIS COOKE [mailto:wrco...@yahoo.com] 
Sent: Tuesday, March 09, 2010 23:20 PM
To: Rich - K1HTV; elecraft@mailman.qth.net
Subject: Re: [Elecraft] Audio dropouts while tuning in K3 SubRX


I checked my K3 and it does not seem to have that problem
 
Willis 'Cookie' Cooke 
K5EWJ 


  _  

From: Rich - K1HTV k1...@comcast.net
To: elecraft@mailman.qth.net
Sent: Tue, March 9, 2010 9:14:58 PM
Subject: Re: [Elecraft] Audio dropouts while tuning in K3 SubRX

I noticed the same short audio dropout on the SubRx only (not the main) while
operating the CQ160 SB contest at home and the ARRL DX Phone contest at W3LPL. I
don't recall seeing this problem being reported until Brett mentioned it.  I
noticed the clicks occurring on 160M at the frequency transitions every 5 KHz:
1816.449 to .450
1821.449   
1826.449   
1831.449  
When tuning some freqs above 1900 KHz the spacing changed to 6 KHz:
1937.449 to .450
1943.449  
1949.449  
1955.449  
1961.449  

It's not a severe problem but certainly was annoying hearing the clicks when
certain freqs were passed while hunting the 160 Meter band for mults.
I was using the new Beta firmware. Will check out the previous version when I
get a chance to see if it was there and not previously noticed.

73,
Rich - K1HTV

= = =

Date: Sat, 6 Mar 2010 02:24:32 -0800
From: Brett Howard br...@livecomputers.com
Subject: [Elecraft] Audio dropouts while tuning in SubRX
To: elecraft elecraft@mailman.qth.net
Message-ID:
fb5179b41003060224o5e45597bi171ffcf084855...@mail.gmail.com
Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1

What is the story behind the audio breaks when tuning in the sub rx...
Right now I get a break anytime I tune from and to the following
frequencies:

7.060.99 - 7.061
7.069.99 - 7.070
7.078.99 - 7.079
7.085.99 - 7.086
7.086.99 - 7.087

There are more but thats an example of them...  Its just a short blank pause in
audio whenever I make those transitions (in either direction I hear the pause).

~Brett (KC7OTG)

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Re: [Elecraft] [K3] K3 USB, Serial Drivers, and HRD Connection

2010-03-10 Thread Guy Olinger K2AV
Appears to be working across the board.  YMMV, but giving the
improvements I saw, and the strange stuff going on, worth giving it a
try for sure.

On Wed, Mar 10, 2010 at 11:04 AM, WILLIS COOKE wrco...@yahoo.com wrote:
 Guy, have you used the new driver with N1MM, XMlog or other Visual Basic
 built program?  I tried the Prolific USB/Serial with my Win 7 machine with
 the November driver.  It worked great with the Elecraft program, but would
 not control my K3 with N1MM or XMlog.  Have you tried keying with DTR with
 the adapter?

 Willis 'Cookie' Cooke
 K5EWJ

 
 From: Guy Olinger K2AV olin...@bellsouth.net
 To: df...@yahoo.com
 Cc: elecraft@mailman.qth.net; G4ILOJulian julian.g4...@gmail.com
 Sent: Wed, March 10, 2010 9:53:59 AM
 Subject: Re: [Elecraft] [K3] K3 USB, Serial Drivers, and HRD Connection

 I would second the notion on the drivers.

 It has not been mentioned in this thread, but I was having troubles
 with the Prolific USB/serial adapter (bought from Elecraft) on my new
 Win 7 64 bit computer.  There finally (last 3 4 weeks) was a new
 driver set out there with a much later build date (Dec 02 2009) than I
 had seen before, and specifically marked for Win 7 on the page.  It
 bumped up their version number from 1.0.6.26 to 1.1.0.

 I am using it now and odd problems seem to have gone away, including
 some BSOD issues. I cannot say if any of the blizzard of Win 7 changes
 had anything to do with it.

 73, Guy.


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Re: [Elecraft] Any Consideration of a Receive Only K3?

2010-03-10 Thread Geoffrey Mackenzie-Kennedy
I agree with Bill's comments about Perseus, I bought one last year to use 
primarily as a backup spectrum analyser.  Not only is Perseus' performance 
as a receiver good in all modes, but it also does a fine job as a spectrum 
analyser and/or a panadapter, which would be useful to a SWL should she/he 
become licensed.

The software version I use provides coverage up to 40 MHz.

The usual disclaimers apply.

73,
Geoff
GM4ESD


Bill W4ZV wrote on Wednesday, March 10, 2010 at 7:05 PM

 I disagree.  Perseus is $1199 in the US and is the current hot ticket for
 SWLers.  Why?  Because it can receive the entire MW band for recording and
 analysis later.  RX performance is comparable to a K3 (maybe better) and
 Perseus can receive the entire 10 kHz - 30 MHz range as is (the K3 
 cannot).



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[Elecraft] KX1 and BuddiPole Antenna System

2010-03-10 Thread G. Jude Miller
Does anyone have any experience using a BuddiPole antenna with their
KX1.  Any words of wisdom you can offer a CW  KX1 newbie would be
appreciated.

Jude  KB5FSG
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Re: [Elecraft] KX1 and BuddiPole Antenna System

2010-03-10 Thread Art - W6KY
I have used the BuddiStick with a K1-4... 
Works very well with QSO's all over Asia
and South America (+USA) with just
5 watts.. I like the way the BuddiStack
packs away in its own case. 
H  The KX1 might fit in there too..
73, Art  W6KY


 .
WHAT DO YOU DO WHEN YOU SEE AN 
ENDANGERED ANIMAL EATING 
ENDANGERED PLANTS ?



- Original Message 
From: G. Jude Miller g.jude.mil...@gmail.com
To: elecraft@mailman.qth.net
Sent: Wed, March 10, 2010 1:42:54 PM
Subject: [Elecraft] KX1 and BuddiPole Antenna System

Does anyone have any experience using a BuddiPole antenna with their
KX1.  Any words of wisdom you can offer a CW  KX1 newbie would be
appreciated.

Jude  KB5FSG
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Re: [Elecraft] KX1 and BuddiPole Antenna System

2010-03-10 Thread W2bpi1
I do not have a KX1 but I have used the Buddipole with  many small qrp rigs 
( SW40, Sw30, SW20 and others)  and it works very  well.  72 Geo?W2BPI



Does anyone have any experience using a BuddiPole  antenna with their
KX1.  Any words of wisdom you can offer a CW   KX1 newbie would be
appreciated.

Jude   KB5FSG
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[Elecraft] SL USB Tigertronics

2010-03-10 Thread Ken Chandler
Hi
If anyone is hooked up with USB tigertronics with the k3, can they  
mail me off reflector please!

Ken..G0ORH

Sent from my iPhone



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[Elecraft] USB/Serial Question

2010-03-10 Thread Charles Teeter
Hello:

My computer is an iMac, so I¹m wondering if a serial/USB cable from BestBuy,
WalMart, or wherever will work, or if I should spend the extra money and buy
the one from Elecraft?  I¹m hoping down the road to use the Mac also for
logging and possibly even controlling the K3. I haven¹t ordered the K3 yet
because I want to do only one order.  I¹ve read most of the current threat
on USB, but I still wanted to ask this specific question.  Thanks.

73,

Chuck KE9CE
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Re: [Elecraft] SL USB Tigertronics

2010-03-10 Thread WILLIS COOKE
I don't think Tigertronics builds their stuff, so check what you are getting 
from them.  I bought a PCIe RS-232 Card but it was drop shipped 
from StarTech.com.  It works great and I recommend it, but it does use a slot 
in the mother board.
 Willis 'Cookie' Cooke 
K5EWJ 





From: Ken Chandler g0...@sky.com
To: elecraft@mailman.qth.net
Sent: Wed, March 10, 2010 4:28:29 PM
Subject: [Elecraft] SL USB Tigertronics

Hi
If anyone is hooked up with USB tigertronics with the k3, can they  
mail me off reflector please!

Ken..G0ORH

Sent from my iPhone



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Re: [Elecraft] USB/Serial Question

2010-03-10 Thread Charles Teeter

OopsI meant threadnot threat.

chuck

On 3/10/10 4:33 PM, Charles Teeter c.tee...@att.net wrote:

 Hello:
 
 My computer is an iMac, so I¹m wondering if a serial/USB cable from BestBuy,
 WalMart, or wherever will work, or if I should spend the extra money and buy
 the one from Elecraft?  I¹m hoping down the road to use the Mac also for
 logging and possibly even controlling the K3. I haven¹t ordered the K3 yet
 because I want to do only one order.  I¹ve read most of the current threat
 on USB, but I still wanted to ask this specific question.  Thanks.
 
 73,
 
 Chuck KE9CE
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Re: [Elecraft] USB/Serial Question

2010-03-10 Thread WILLIS COOKE
It doesn't matter Chuck.  Elecraft does not make the converter either.  I 
bought Elecraft and it works great with the Elecraft software buy not with N1MM 
or XMlog.  There is nothing you can do except get the latest best driver that 
you can and try it.  
 Willis 'Cookie' Cooke 
K5EWJ 





From: Charles Teeter c.tee...@att.net
To: elecraft@mailman.qth.net
Sent: Wed, March 10, 2010 4:33:40 PM
Subject: [Elecraft] USB/Serial Question

Hello:

My computer is an iMac, so I¹m wondering if a serial/USB cable from BestBuy,
WalMart, or wherever will work, or if I should spend the extra money and buy
the one from Elecraft?  I¹m hoping down the road to use the Mac also for
logging and possibly even controlling the K3. I haven¹t ordered the K3 yet
because I want to do only one order.  I¹ve read most of the current threat
on USB, but I still wanted to ask this specific question.  Thanks.

73,

Chuck KE9CE
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[Elecraft] Fwd: K3R

2010-03-10 Thread Karl Marderian


Sent from my iPhone

Begin forwarded message:

 From: Karl Marderian karl...@sbcglobal.net
 Date: March 10, 2010 2:41:55 PM PST
 To: Gary Hvizdak garyhviz...@cfl.rr.com
 Cc: Elecraft@mailman.qth.net
 Subject: Re: [Elecraft] K3R


 Gary,
 Ten Tec makes receivers. They did not stop making Ham gear. Fun is  
 having the toys you want. Is there a market? All part of game. I  
 have a K3/100 and a General.
 Years ago I just wanted to buy a Kenwood reciever, R5000 (?). I had  
 no FCC lic..I only wanted to hear, be heard. Well the salesman told  
 me the transceiver modle was on sale and better buy, look what it  
 did to me. But I still love SWL.
  Karl. N6XVT


 Sent from my iPhone

 On Mar 9, 2010, at 8:26 PM, Gary Hvizdak garyhviz...@cfl.rr.com  
 wrote:

 Karl,



 Why not just buy a K3 configured “however” just like  
 everyone else?



 Or would you prefer that Elecraft abandon the ham market in  
 favor of the SWL market?



 73,
 Gary  KI4GGX

 K3 #2724





 Karl Marderian
 Tue Mar 9 23:17:00 EST 2010



 Hi folks,
 Just had a brain storm. To off set the price of a K3/10. No amp., but
 include all the boards to make it a general reciever. Also include  
 the
 6Kz 8 pole in place of the 2.7Kz 5 pole. The K3/10 is more Hams then
 SWL.
 N6XVT.  Karl

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Re: [Elecraft] USB/Serial Question

2010-03-10 Thread Jack Brindle
I would answer that with a pair of questions. What kind of iMac is it,  
and OS are you running?

The Elecraft USB serial adapter uses the Prolific chip set. This  
manufacturer has not updated the driver for this chip set to run under  
Mac OS X 10.6 with the 64 bit kernel enabled. So, if you are running  
an Intel-based Mac with Snow Leopard, you may not want the Elecraft  
device.

I use FTDI-based USB-Serial adapters from FTDI themselves. They are  
available from Mouser Electronics for $18.50 each. The current FTDI  
drivers are known good under all versions of Mac OS X, with both 32  
and 64-bit kernels enabled. If anyone is interested, the Mouser part  
number is 895-UC232R-10.

Now, having said this, there are many users who have been happy with  
the Elecraft adapter with the Mac using older versions of Mac OS X.

No matter which USB serial adapter you get, though, be ready to update  
the driver directly from the chip provider. Every new version of an OS  
sees changes, and USB is an area that is prominent for change. That  
almost always requires new drivers...

Jack Brindle, W6FB


On Mar 10, 2010, at 2:33 PM, Charles Teeter wrote:

 Hello:

 My computer is an iMac, so I’m wondering if a serial/USB cable from  
 BestBuy,
 WalMart, or wherever will work, or if I should spend the extra money  
 and buy
 the one from Elecraft?  I’m hoping down the road to use the Mac also  
 for
 logging and possibly even controlling the K3. I haven’t ordered the  
 K3 yet
 because I want to do only one order.  I’ve read most of the current  
 threat
 on USB, but I still wanted to ask this specific question.  Thanks.

 73,

 Chuck KE9CE
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[Elecraft] USB/Serial Question

2010-03-10 Thread Charles Teeter
Jack,

My iMac is from late 2006, but it has all the upgrades, including that to
Snow Leopard.  Steve WB6RSE mentioned also that now the Elecraft one works
FB with 10.6.  I¹ll look at that as well as the one from Mouser Electronics.
Thanks, guys.

73,
Chuck KE9CE
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Re: [Elecraft] K3 Diversity and mode changes

2010-03-10 Thread Don Wilhelm
Graham,

When in diversity receive, VFO A is the VFO for *both* the main and the 
sub.  While in diversity, VFO B only serves as the transmit VFO if SPLIT 
is active.  Tapping AB is really a no-op step in diversity (unless 
SPLIT is on and you want to move the TX frequency to the RX frequency.  
See page 37 of the K3 manual.

73,
Don W3FPR

Graham Kimbell (G3TCT) wrote:
 I'm playing with diversity operation and find that when I change modes say 
 from usb to cw, the main rx changes frequency slightly to keep the received 
 tone the same (as expected), but the sub rx doesn't change frequency.  
 This is not a big deal because I can tap A-B to force the frequencies equal, 
 but does anyone know if this is usual or if I have something set wrong?

 f/w 3.77
   

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Re: [Elecraft] USB/Serial Question

2010-03-10 Thread Lew Phelps K6LMP
I'm also a Mac user. Some months ago, I specifically asked the folks at 
Elecraft if there is any reason to prefer their USB-Serial dongle over others 
that are commercially available. They said no, there's nothing that special 
about their device. 

The real issue, especially for Mac users, is whether the manufacturer of the 
chipset used in the device provides good support to the Mac community in terms 
of updating drivers.  The chipset maker who seem to have the best history with 
this is FTDI. It's not just a question of whether there is a driver currently 
available for OS X 10.6, but whether the chipset maker is known to be able to 
bring out updated drivers that function whenever Apple updates its OS.  It 
seems as if every update requires updated drivers. Keyspan has been good about 
Mac support in the past, but when I upgraded to 10.6, my Keyspan dongle lost 
functionality, so I quit using it and switched to a product that uses FTDI 
chips. 

I would NOT buy a cheap USB -serial dongle from Walmart or elsewhere unless you 
can confirm that it's got an FTDI chipset. 


Lew K6LMP



 
On Mar 10, 2010, at 5:11 PM, Charles Teeter wrote:

 Jack,
 
 My iMac is from late 2006, but it has all the upgrades, including that to
 Snow Leopard.  Steve WB6RSE mentioned also that now the Elecraft one works
 FB with 10.6.  I’ll look at that as well as the one from Mouser Electronics.
 Thanks, guys.
 
 73,
 Chuck KE9CE
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Re: [Elecraft] USB/Serial Question

2010-03-10 Thread David Herring, K6DCH
Chuck,

I have an iMac with Snow Leopard and I use a Keyspan USB/serial  
device. It is about a year old and has performed flawlessly with my K3  
and every different program I've tinkered with, which includes fldigi,  
mac logger dx, the elecraft utility, HRD running in vmware/windows xp,  
and a few others.

As with everything, ymmv.

73,
Dave K6DCH

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On Mar 10, 2010, at 1:11 PM, Charles Teeter c.tee...@att.net wrote:

 Jack,

 My iMac is from late 2006, but it has all the upgrades, including  
 that to
 Snow Leopard.  Steve WB6RSE mentioned also that now the Elecraft one  
 works
 FB with 10.6.  I’ll look at that as well as the one from Mouser Elec 
 tronics.
 Thanks, guys.

 73,
 Chuck KE9CE
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[Elecraft] Dual Serial Port PCI Card instead of USB adapter

2010-03-10 Thread Howard Ashcraft
I just read posts on USB drivers and have another option someone may prefer.

I have an extra two port PCI serial card made by SGII (major brand).  They
publish drivers for a wide variety of operating systems (I am using XP Home
and Professional, SP3), but you can check their website for Mac, Linux and
other Windows operating systems.  If you don't want to deal with USB-serial
converters, this gives you a good way to connect the K3 and another device.
 I was using this before I came across an 8 port serial card (I actually
have 5 devices connected...don't ask why)  The upshot is that you can have
my SGII card for $10 plus whatever it costs to mail it to you.

Howard
W1WF
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[Elecraft] K3 and N1MM -- Macros to key K3 DVR

2010-03-10 Thread DBellW6AQ
I asked on this reflector a couple of weeks ago if anyone knew of  macros 
for N1MM to key the K3 DVR and some kind soul answered me with a link to  go 
to.   Alas, I lost that email and link and would like to get it  again.  
This time I'll be more careful.  
 
Thanks in advance and 73, Dave
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[Elecraft] K3 - K3 For Sale

2010-03-10 Thread Bob Dorchuck
I have one of my K3's for sale.  Serial 1590, built from a kit in excellent
condition.  All updates applied except the new DSP board swap.  Firmware
version 3.76  Non smoker.  Options included:
  K3/100Basic Radio
  KRX3  Second Receiver
  KTCXO3-1  High Stability TCXO
  KVX-3 RX antenna-IF out
  2.8 Khz 8 Pole filters in both main and sub receivers
  6.0 Khz 8 Pole filter in main receiver
  KDVR  Digital Voice Recorder - included but not installed

Price is $2450 plus shipping (US only).  Local pickup welcome too.
Please contact me off list if you are interested.
Thanks - Bob  W6VY
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Re: [Elecraft] K3 and N1MM -- Macros to key K3 DVR

2010-03-10 Thread Jim McDonald
Dave,

Was it this?  http://www.dseven.org/ar/n1mm-kdvr3 

Jim N7US




-Original Message-


I asked on this reflector a couple of weeks ago if anyone knew of  macros 
for N1MM to key the K3 DVR and some kind soul answered me with a link to  go

to.   Alas, I lost that email and link and would like to get it  again.  
This time I'll be more careful.  
 
Thanks in advance and 73, Dave


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Re: [Elecraft] usb to serial

2010-03-10 Thread Guy Olinger K2AV
Getting power from a USB port is problematic unless the draw is very
light. More than one serial port driven from a USB is driving on the
edge unless you know the circuit details behind the USB port.
Sometimes even one serial port is an issue given the circuit details
of what is reading the serial signals.

It is very clear with various experiences with USB ports, that there
are USB ports, and there are USB ports. The U in universal serial
port ain't so U as it's cracked up to be.  YMMV, all the way.

73, Guy.

On Wed, Mar 10, 2010 at 11:03 AM, Wes Stewart n...@yahoo.com wrote:
 I have a four-port Edgeport and it works great for everything *except* the K3 
 utility.  But then I have no end of trouble with the utility anyway.

 Once I finally got it sort of working, opening the utility finds the K3 and 
 reports status.  However, if I try to test communications or refresh port 
 list the program simply closes.

 I resort to a Quatech USB-Serial for any firmware installs and keep my 
 fingers crossed.

 Wes  N7WS

 --- On Wed, 3/10/10, Gary Lee kb9...@arrl.net wrote:

 From: Gary Lee kb9...@arrl.net
 Subject: [Elecraft] usb to serial
 To: Elecraft Reflector elecraft@mailman.qth.net
 Date: Wednesday, March 10, 2010, 8:25 AM
 I have had great luck with a thing
 called an edgeport

 made by insideout networks.
 Not sure if it exists anymore.  They offered 4, 8, and
 16 port versions that
 I know of.
 Gets power from the usb port, and serials can be defined as
 rs232 or 422.
 Supports all the hardware handshake lines.
 All my k3 connections are through this device under windows
 xp, and never
 had a problem.
 Hope this helps someone.

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Re: [Elecraft] KX1 and BuddiPole Antenna System

2010-03-10 Thread Sean Cavanaugh
On 10-03-10 3:42 PM, G. Jude Miller wrote:
 Does anyone have any experience using a BuddiPole antenna with their
 KX1.  Any words of wisdom you can offer a CW  KX1 newbie would be
 appreciated.

 Jude  KB5FSG

I've used this combination and have been very happy with it. Everything 
fits in the buddipole carrying case making a nice grab and go HF station.

I'd recommend getting an antenna analyzer to use with the buddipole, 
makes setting it up a lot easier. Alternately you could make a card with 
all the settings for coil taps and whip extension and use that, but I 
found that the settings are somewhat dependent on ground conditions and 
any nearby objects. I keep an MFJ-259B with the buddipole just to make 
life easier.

Other than that, get on the air. Have fun. Best way to get good at CW is 
to use it often. I'm still learning, but I've found the process to be a 
blast!

73,

Sean - VA5LF
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