Re: [Elecraft] KPA500

2010-04-19 Thread Ian White GM3SEK

>From: "Vic K2VCO" 
>Obviously I haven't tried it (!) but I suspect that the
>external magnetic field from a
>toroidal transformer is much less extensive than that of the
>usual laminated type.

Tom W8JI wrote:
>Don't bet on it.   :-)
>

Tom and I discussed this on the AMPS reflector, back in 2007.  Flux 
leakage from a toroidal winding at 50/60Hz is MUCH less of a concern 
than it is with toroids at RF.

The specific question on AMPS was whether two toroidal transformers can 
be stacked closely together without magnetic interaction, and the answer 
was: Yes, they can. With two identical toroidal transformers sitting one 
on top of the other, I connected 230V AC to the primary of one and 
measured only a few millivolts on the open-circuit primary of the other.

That isn't quite the same topic as the flux leakage from a single large 
transformer, but it's a good indication that leakage can be very low 
indeed.

Obviously the answer will also depend on the quality of design and 
construction, not only in the transformer but also in the rest of the 
amplifier, because flux leakage is also affected by the external 
connecting wires. For the lowest possible flux leakage, it is important 
to minimize the physical size of the 'coupling loops' created by the 
connecting wires, especially if the stray magnetic fields can also 
interact with a steel chassis.



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Re: [Elecraft] : Re: News from Visalia! (:-))

2010-04-19 Thread Joe Subich, W4TV


> I'm just stating my opinion that, in the big picture, the 
> price point for the KPA500 seems a bit on the high side for 
> what you get.  Now seeing photos, its certainly better 
> looking than my ALS600.  And the build quality is probably 
> better than my Ameritron product, but for that power level, 
> and taking into account the value of my time if I had to 
> build it, the cost is a bit high in my opinion.

Taking this one step further, the KPA-500 may have an updated 
design - after all the ALS-600 is a close copy of Granberg's 
20 year old design (Motorola Engineering Bulletin # 104) - but 
other than the microprocessor control in the KPA-500, the bill 
of materials should be fairly similar for the KPA-500 and 
the ALS-600.  

The FETs in the KPA-500 will be slightly more expensive (2 x $87 
in the KPA-500 vs. 4 x $36 in the ALS-600 for Q=1000) but the 
differences should be offset at least in part by easier assembly 
and calibration.  I would expect the KPA-500 to sell for no more 
than 20% above the street price of the ALS-600 with linear supply. 
Any more than that is difficult to justify ... after all, a watt 
is a watt.  

73, 

  ... Joe Subich, W4TV 




> -Original Message-
> From: elecraft-boun...@mailman.qth.net 
> [mailto:elecraft-boun...@mailman.qth.net] On Behalf Of Luis V. Romero
> Sent: Monday, April 19, 2010 11:51 PM
> To: 'Jim Brown'
> Cc: 'Elecraft'
> Subject: [Elecraft] : Re: News from Visalia! (:-))
> 
> 
> I wrote that statement, Jim:
> 
> I'm just stating my opinion that, in the big picture, the 
> price point for the KPA500 seems a bit on the high side for 
> what you get.  Now seeing photos, its certainly better 
> looking than my ALS600.  And the build quality is probably 
> better than my Ameritron product, but for that power level, 
> and taking into account the value of my time if I had to 
> build it, the cost is a bit high in my opinion.
> 
> I'm not in this to have a pretty shack to impress my friends 
> with lots of lights, gingerbread and ham status symbols.  If 
> I were into that, I would take out a 2nd mortgage and buy a 
> 7800/PW1.  :) 
> 
> Maybe I'm "cheap", maybe not.  After all, I do own a rather 
> well equipped K3.  But with two kids in college and a 
> mortgage payment in today's economy, what I have does an 
> admirable job.  I did have to do "final QC" on my ALS600, and 
> I did have to integrate a band decoder to it to switch bands 
> from the radio, and I did have to install Phil AD5X's 
> marvelous little QSK board, but the K3/ALS600/MFJ998 
> combination I currently operate does exactly what it needs to 
> do with little fuss and surprisingly high reliability at a 
> very reasonable price point.  
> 
> While its true that you get what you pay for, as I used to 
> say when I was in TV and purchased EFP cameras instead of the 
> 5 times more expensive studio versions of the same thing for 
> my station. "Nobody at home can see the difference".
> 
> It would be nice to have a matching amp and panadapter to go 
> with my K3. The Panadapter is well priced for what you get, 
> what it is, and for its computer-less feature set, and I will 
> probably end up with one of those next year.  
> 
> The KPA500, in my personal environment, is not. 
> 
> Again, my opinion, and your mileage will indeed vary.  
> Matching boxes are not high on my priority list because, 
> well, "You cant hear the difference at home".
> 
> -lu-w4lt-
> 
> 
> Date: Mon, 19 Apr 2010 09:59:58 -0700
> From: "Jim Brown" 
> Subject: Re: [Elecraft] News from Visalia! (:-))
> To: "Elecraft" 
> Message-ID: <2010041917.2a58c58...@gw1.nlenet.net>
> Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii"
> 
> On Sun, 18 Apr 2010 16:16:58 -0400, Terry Posey wrote:
> 
> >ALS600 with the Linear Power supply, AD5X Full Break In mod and an 
> >external bandswitching accessory plus an MFJ998 would come in 
> >considerably under the $2,000 price.
> 
> Do I understand that you are equating MFJ with Elecraft?  
> That's quite a 
> stretch! While I have great respect for W8JI's engineering, 
> that does not 
> extend to MFJ's manufacturing, and Ameritron has common 
> ownership with MFJ. 
> :)
> 
> I can also buy at least twenty different models of 100 watt 
> HF transceiver 
> for much less than the cost of a K3. Yet I OWN two K3s. 
> 
> I just returned from Visalia. The exhibit hall included large booths 
> showing Icom and Yaesu rigs. The Elecraft booth was JAMMED 
> from the minute 
> the doors opened until they closed. The Yaesu and Icom booths 
> had only 
> modest traffic, and were oftn next to deserted. 
> 
> 73,
> 
> Jim K9YC
> 


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[Elecraft] News from Visalia! (:-))

2010-04-19 Thread Johnny Siu
Hello Doug,

Can I suppose there is no ATU inside the KPA500?  In other words, should I 
allow extra $ budget for an ATU to work with KPA500?

cheers,

Johnny VR2XMC



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主題: Re: [Elecraft] : Re: News from Visalia! (:-))


  On Mon, 19 Apr 2010 23:51:08 -0400, Luis V. Romero wrote:

  >Maybe I'm "cheap", maybe not. 

Certainly, for some of us, the small size is worth some premium.

Those who are comparing the KPA500 to a ALS-600 should take note that
it's less than 1/3 the volume, and about the same weight as the
ALS-600S.

73, doug
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Re: [Elecraft] P3 Information Page now on Elecraft Web Page

2010-04-19 Thread k6osx

Woohoo!  Has a time line been set for when the P3's assembly manual will be
posted on the website?


k6osx

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Re: [Elecraft] : Re: News from Visalia! (:-))

2010-04-19 Thread Doug Faunt N6TQS +1-510-655-8604

   On Mon, 19 Apr 2010 23:51:08 -0400, Luis V. Romero wrote:

   >Maybe I'm "cheap", maybe not. 

Certainly, for some of us, the small size is worth some premium.

Those who are comparing the KPA500 to a ALS-600 should take note that
it's less than 1/3 the volume, and about the same weight as the
ALS-600S.

73, doug
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Re: [Elecraft] time to order your P3, design details?

2010-04-19 Thread Larry Phipps
That version of PowerSDR is not optimized for panadapter use. Like 
anything, there are a variety of SDR programs around. The latest 
PowerSDR/IF Stage svn from WU2X & W1CEG can fill the screen with just 
the pan display (or waterfall or panafall). You can also add a 
VFO/S-Meter strip and/or Band/Mode buttons. No clutter, huge pan 
display, just the most needed controls. Here are some examples...

http://www.telepostinc.com/psdr35_collapsed_2a.png
http://www.telepostinc.com/DSCN0583f.jpg

73,
Larry N8LP



> Date: Mon, 19 Apr 2010 11:26:09 -0700 (PDT) From: Al Lorona 
>  Subject: Re: [Elecraft] time to order your P3, 
> design details? To: elecraft@mailman.qth.net Message-ID: 
> <990531.32803...@web82607.mail.mud.yahoo.com> Content-Type: 
> text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1
>> >?To get you started, look at ... 
>> > http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=q_Fom1QwNa4&feature=related ?
>> 
>
> That is really pretty, but?my prevailing thought was that perhaps it's just 
> too much eye candy-- which really doesn't?make interpreting the?data any 
> easier. The spectrum readout-- arguably the most important area of the 
> screen-- is difficult to concentrate on with the distraction of the other 
> detail (color, shading, texture, 3D effects, text, labels, buttons, controls) 
> of the skin.
>
> I really believe?simpler is better. Let me illustrate by example. The last 
> time you flew on a Boeing 767 this is what the pilots saw on the flight deck:
> http://www.airliners.net/photo/Continental-Airlines/Boeing-767-424-ER/070/&sid=0444c7e1280e36facb8845d82b29142f??
>  
>
> Many?of you?would perhaps laugh at such a?simplistic 1970s display and would 
> find excuses not to pay money for it in 2010.?But this is certainly a 
> mission-critical application where simpler displays mean quick, efficient 
> interpretation by the pilots in whose hands we place our lives. They gotta be 
> able to glance and read the situation instantly, without having to twiddle or 
> read a lot of controls. 
>
> I know I'm comparing apples and oranges. And I know I'm sounding like an old 
> guy. But the trend in radios-- whether traditional or SDR-- is certainly 
> going towards more and more eye candy. These fancier and fancier GUIs (and 
> front panels) can start to make one dizzy. If it doesn't have at least?four 
> blue LEDs and?two or three?irregular-shaped pink buttons, people won't buy 
> it, I guess!
>
> The display of the P3 shares many characteristics with the 767 display. 
> Without getting into any of the pro-computer/ anti-computer arguments, this 
> is one reason why I like the way the P3 has been laid out.
>
> I kinda like simple and uncluttered. If it's good enough for the captain of a 
> 767, it's good enough for me.
>
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Re: [Elecraft] : Re: News from Visalia! (:-))

2010-04-19 Thread Jim Brown
On Mon, 19 Apr 2010 23:51:08 -0400, Luis V. Romero wrote:

>Maybe I'm "cheap", maybe not. 

Almost all of us have had to get by with what we could afford for 
most, if not all, of our lives, and most of us still do. I've been 
a ham since 1955. The first rig I bought new was a Heath Apache in 
1958 -- two summer's worth of jobs. The secons was a Ten Tec Omni A 
in 1980. The third was a K3 in 2008. I've also owned a few new VHF 
rigs. Every other piece of ham gear I own was used by at least one 
other ham before me. But it's all "good stuff" -- products of top 
quality, well engineered. 

73,

Jim K9YC


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Re: [Elecraft] P3 color selection (was Re: time to order your P3, design details?)

2010-04-19 Thread Jeremy McDermond
On Apr 19, 2010, at 11:56 PM, Kok Chen wrote:
> Most users, unless they read the source code, probably doesn't know that 
> there is some method to the madness of the color scheme.

No, but those of us that have read the code in the process of writing our own 
waterfalls appreciate the careful attention and research, as well as the 
sharing of the code.

> 73
> Chen, W7AY

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Re: [Elecraft] P3 color selection (was Re: time to order your P3, design details?)

2010-04-19 Thread Kok Chen
This web page is intended for web designers, but is useful for designing any 
color based user interface:

http://www.iamcal.com/toys/colors/

It lets a person with "normal" color vision see what people with various color 
deficiencies see.  

For example, when you check the various common anomalies on the web page, you 
can see that a dark blue background with a bright yellow foreground can be 
distinguished by most people.  But a green and red combination could be hard to 
distinguish by someone that has Protanopia or Deutanopia.

Now you know why some digital interfaces' waterfall display are done using the 
blue/yellow color scheme :-)  

cocoaModem's waterfall uses deep blue for very low level signals, transitioning 
to lighter blue and then to progressively brighter yellow as the signal becomes 
stronger, then to orange and finally ending up with bright red when the signal 
gets close to saturating the sound card.  Most users, unless they read the 
source code, probably doesn't know that there is some method to the madness of 
the color scheme.

73
Chen, W7AY

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[Elecraft] : Re: News from Visalia! (:-))

2010-04-19 Thread Luis V. Romero
I wrote that statement, Jim:

I'm just stating my opinion that, in the big picture, the price point for
the KPA500 seems a bit on the high side for what you get.  Now seeing
photos, its certainly better looking than my ALS600.  And the build quality
is probably better than my Ameritron product, but for that power level, and
taking into account the value of my time if I had to build it, the cost is a
bit high in my opinion.

I'm not in this to have a pretty shack to impress my friends with lots of
lights, gingerbread and ham status symbols.  If I were into that, I would
take out a 2nd mortgage and buy a 7800/PW1.  :) 

Maybe I'm "cheap", maybe not.  After all, I do own a rather well equipped
K3.  But with two kids in college and a mortgage payment in today's economy,
what I have does an admirable job.  I did have to do "final QC" on my
ALS600, and I did have to integrate a band decoder to it to switch bands
from the radio, and I did have to install Phil AD5X's marvelous little QSK
board, but the K3/ALS600/MFJ998 combination I currently operate does exactly
what it needs to do with little fuss and surprisingly high reliability at a
very reasonable price point.  

While its true that you get what you pay for, as I used to say when I was in
TV and purchased EFP cameras instead of the 5 times more expensive studio
versions of the same thing for my station. "Nobody at home can see the
difference".

It would be nice to have a matching amp and panadapter to go with my K3.
The Panadapter is well priced for what you get, what it is, and for its
computer-less feature set, and I will probably end up with one of those next
year.  

The KPA500, in my personal environment, is not. 

Again, my opinion, and your mileage will indeed vary.  Matching boxes are
not high on my priority list because, well, "You cant hear the difference at
home".

-lu-w4lt-


Date: Mon, 19 Apr 2010 09:59:58 -0700
From: "Jim Brown" 
Subject: Re: [Elecraft] News from Visalia! (:-))
To: "Elecraft" 
Message-ID: <2010041917.2a58c58...@gw1.nlenet.net>
Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii"

On Sun, 18 Apr 2010 16:16:58 -0400, Terry Posey wrote:

>ALS600 with the Linear Power supply, AD5X Full Break In mod and an
>external bandswitching accessory plus an MFJ998 would come in considerably
>under the $2,000 price. 

Do I understand that you are equating MFJ with Elecraft?  That's quite a 
stretch! While I have great respect for W8JI's engineering, that does not 
extend to MFJ's manufacturing, and Ameritron has common ownership with MFJ. 
:)

I can also buy at least twenty different models of 100 watt HF transceiver 
for much less than the cost of a K3. Yet I OWN two K3s. 

I just returned from Visalia. The exhibit hall included large booths 
showing Icom and Yaesu rigs. The Elecraft booth was JAMMED from the minute 
the doors opened until they closed. The Yaesu and Icom booths had only 
modest traffic, and were oftn next to deserted. 

73,

Jim K9YC

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Re: [Elecraft] P3 color selection (was Re: time to order your P3, design details?)

2010-04-19 Thread dave . wilburn
Very nicely done. Thanks for sharing the thought that went into it. 

David Wilburn
NM4M 
Sent from my Verizon Wireless BlackBerry

-Original Message-
From: Alan Bloom 
Date: Mon, 19 Apr 2010 19:41:22 
To: 
Cc: Elecraft Reflector
Subject: [Elecraft] P3 color selection (was Re:  time to order your P3,
 design details?)

Hi Fred,

I thought for quite awhile about what to do about vision-impaired users
of the P3.  I couldn't think of any way that a blind or severely
visually-impaired person would be able to get any significant benefit
from a panadapter so I finally decided not to attempt to make it usable
by the blind.

However color blindness is another story.  Many of Elecraft's customers
are older males and, like me, have some degree of color blindness.  I
have tried to take that into account in the color scheme used in the P3.
The following information comes from the Color_blindness page on
Wikipedia.

There are three types of cones (color receptors) in the retina that have
peaks in different parts of the spectrum: blue, green and red. (The
so-called "red" peak is actually more like orange/yellow.) The three
spectral responses overlap considerably. The eye measures the response
of each type of cone and interpolates to figure out what the actual
color must be.

"Color blind" does not necessarily mean "blind to colors" but rather an
inability to perceive differences between some of the colors that others
can distinguish. There are many types of color blindness, but the most
common (affecting about 9% of adult males) are the so-called "red-green"
hereditary (genetic) photoreceptor disorders, all of which make it
difficult to discriminate reds, yellows and greens from one another.
There are other types of color blindness that make it difficult to
distinguish between blue and yellow, but they are less common.

I have tried to make the default colors accommodate people with
red-green color blindness.  That means making sure that markings and
their backgrounds never both come from the red-green end of the
spectrum. It also means avoiding small objects and thin lines with such
colors (even with a blue background) because many color-blind people can
see the problem colors much better if the object has some "mass" to it.
It helps that this is the kind of color blindness that I have, so if it
looks good to me it should look good to others with red-green color
blindness.

In addition, to accommodate people with other types of color blindness
including those with monochromacy (total color blindness) the lines and
text on the spectrum display are all bright colors with a dark
background so they should look good in greyscale.  The waterfall display
is more difficult since the different colors are used to indicate
different signal strengths, but weak signals are represented by dark
colors so there is still some ability to discern variations in signal
strength.

Fortunately colors are trivial to change in firmware, so if we get it
wrong at first it is easy to change later.

Alan N1AL



On Mon, 2010-04-19 at 14:51 -0700, Fred Jensen wrote:
> Al Lorona wrote:
> 
> > That is really pretty, but my prevailing thought was that perhaps
> > it's just too much eye candy-- which really doesn't make interpreting
> > the data any easier. The spectrum readout-- arguably the most
> > important area of the screen-- is difficult to concentrate on with
> > the distraction of the other detail (color, shading, texture, 3D
> > effects, text, labels, buttons, controls) of the skin.
> 
> How much of the P3 display information will I miss?  I have no color vision.
> 
> 73,
> 
> Fred K6DGW
> - Northern California Contest Club
> - CU in the 2010 Cal QSO Party 2-3 Oct 2010
> - www.cqp.org


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Re: [Elecraft] Snap-On Ferrites and RF Noise On 160M

2010-04-19 Thread Bill Coleman

On Apr 19, 2010, at 12:37 PM, Jim Brown wrote:

> On Sun, 18 Apr 2010 19:00:19 -0400, Bill Coleman wrote:
> 
>> I found that putting a snap-on ferrite core around the power cord reduced 
>> the spur to an S5 indication. A similar reduction could be had by placing 
> 
>> snap-on ferrite around the power output leads.
> 
> Study my tutorial on RFI and ferrites. 
> 
> http://audiosystemsgroup.com/RFI-Ham.pdf 
> 
> Most snap-on ferrites are designed for maximum effectiveness in the 150 MHz 
> range. ANY "snap-on" ferrite is next to useless on 160M unless multiple 
> turns are wound around it.

Please read the whole posting. The snap-on ferrite was used as a diagnostic 
tool. It showed a reduction in the unwanted signal on both the AC mains and the 
output power leads. Even if the snap-on ferrite was not the optimal final 
solution, it was useful in identifying where the energy was being radiated from 
the box.

I did not use snap-on ferrites in my eventual solution to reduce the RFI. 

Bill Coleman, AA4LR, PP-ASELMail: aa...@arrl.net
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Re: [Elecraft] Remotable external tuner

2010-04-19 Thread Edward Dickinson, III
Hi Ken.

Do you think it is possible for Elecraft to acquire influence with a not yet
mature autotuner manufacturer and provide guidance in a manner beneficial to
Elecraft enthusiasts?


73,
Dick - KA5KKT




All of the above ("below" actually) for me as well, but please, not just a
500W model.  Way too expensive.  Looking at SGC's website as an example, a
500W remote autotuner costs 3 times as much as a 100W model and twice as
much as a 200W unit.

Maybe you can make power rating an option...with the brains of the tuner on
one board and the brawny, power-rated components on a separate board?  Order
the combination of boards to match your circumstances.  Just a thought.

73,

Ken Alexander
VE3HLS



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Re: [Elecraft] Remotable external tuner

2010-04-19 Thread Ken Alexander
All of the above ("below" actually) for me as well, but please, not just a 500W 
model.  Way too expensive.  Looking at SGC's website as an example, a 500W 
remote autotuner costs 3 times as much as a 100W model and twice as much as a 
200W unit.

Maybe you can make power rating an option...with the brains of the tuner on one 
board and the brawny, power-rated components on a separate board?  Order the 
combination of boards to match your circumstances.  Just a thought.

73,

Ken Alexander
VE3HLS



--- On Tue, 4/20/10, WB5BKL  wrote:

> From: WB5BKL 
> Subject: Re: [Elecraft] Remotable external tuner
> To: elecraft@mailman.qth.net
> Date: Tuesday, April 20, 2010, 2:01 AM
> Yes, please.  
> 
> Remotable, balanced/unbalanced, weatherproof, Elecraft.
> 
> It doesn't have to be 500W for me - but I will take
> whatever Elecraft
> comes up with.
> 
> cln
> WB5BKL
> 
> 
> On Sat, 2010-04-17 at 19:42 -0400, elecraft-requ...@mailman.qth.net
> wrote:
> 
> >               
> ..as it holds out the possibility of an external 500W
> > >   Elecraft tuner!  Make it
> remotable, capable of driving a balanced or
> > >   unbalanced load and
> weatherproof, please  ;>)
> > > 
> > >         73 
>   Craig   AC0DS
> > > 
> 
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Re: [Elecraft] P3 shipping status query

2010-04-19 Thread Bob Cunnings
According to the order page:

http://www.elecraft.com/elecraft_prod_list.htm#k3

they start shipping July 15th.

Bob NW8L

On Mon, Apr 19, 2010 at 8:33 PM, David F. Reed  wrote:
> for those of us who already first day ordered our P3s, when might we
> anticipate their shipping?
> Or, failing that, when might we see the P3 added to th shipping status page?
>
> Not trying to rush things, just being curious.
>
> 73 de Dave, W5SV
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[Elecraft] P3 color selection (was Re: time to order your P3, design details?)

2010-04-19 Thread Alan Bloom
Hi Fred,

I thought for quite awhile about what to do about vision-impaired users
of the P3.  I couldn't think of any way that a blind or severely
visually-impaired person would be able to get any significant benefit
from a panadapter so I finally decided not to attempt to make it usable
by the blind.

However color blindness is another story.  Many of Elecraft's customers
are older males and, like me, have some degree of color blindness.  I
have tried to take that into account in the color scheme used in the P3.
The following information comes from the Color_blindness page on
Wikipedia.

There are three types of cones (color receptors) in the retina that have
peaks in different parts of the spectrum: blue, green and red. (The
so-called "red" peak is actually more like orange/yellow.) The three
spectral responses overlap considerably. The eye measures the response
of each type of cone and interpolates to figure out what the actual
color must be.

"Color blind" does not necessarily mean "blind to colors" but rather an
inability to perceive differences between some of the colors that others
can distinguish. There are many types of color blindness, but the most
common (affecting about 9% of adult males) are the so-called "red-green"
hereditary (genetic) photoreceptor disorders, all of which make it
difficult to discriminate reds, yellows and greens from one another.
There are other types of color blindness that make it difficult to
distinguish between blue and yellow, but they are less common.

I have tried to make the default colors accommodate people with
red-green color blindness.  That means making sure that markings and
their backgrounds never both come from the red-green end of the
spectrum. It also means avoiding small objects and thin lines with such
colors (even with a blue background) because many color-blind people can
see the problem colors much better if the object has some "mass" to it.
It helps that this is the kind of color blindness that I have, so if it
looks good to me it should look good to others with red-green color
blindness.

In addition, to accommodate people with other types of color blindness
including those with monochromacy (total color blindness) the lines and
text on the spectrum display are all bright colors with a dark
background so they should look good in greyscale.  The waterfall display
is more difficult since the different colors are used to indicate
different signal strengths, but weak signals are represented by dark
colors so there is still some ability to discern variations in signal
strength.

Fortunately colors are trivial to change in firmware, so if we get it
wrong at first it is easy to change later.

Alan N1AL



On Mon, 2010-04-19 at 14:51 -0700, Fred Jensen wrote:
> Al Lorona wrote:
> 
> > That is really pretty, but my prevailing thought was that perhaps
> > it's just too much eye candy-- which really doesn't make interpreting
> > the data any easier. The spectrum readout-- arguably the most
> > important area of the screen-- is difficult to concentrate on with
> > the distraction of the other detail (color, shading, texture, 3D
> > effects, text, labels, buttons, controls) of the skin.
> 
> How much of the P3 display information will I miss?  I have no color vision.
> 
> 73,
> 
> Fred K6DGW
> - Northern California Contest Club
> - CU in the 2010 Cal QSO Party 2-3 Oct 2010
> - www.cqp.org


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[Elecraft] P3 shipping status query

2010-04-19 Thread David F. Reed
for those of us who already first day ordered our P3s, when might we 
anticipate their shipping?
Or, failing that, when might we see the P3 added to th shipping status page?

Not trying to rush things, just being curious.

73 de Dave, W5SV
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Re: [Elecraft] Remotable external tuner

2010-04-19 Thread WB5BKL
Yes, please.  

Remotable, balanced/unbalanced, weatherproof, Elecraft.

It doesn't have to be 500W for me - but I will take whatever Elecraft
comes up with.

cln
WB5BKL


On Sat, 2010-04-17 at 19:42 -0400, elecraft-requ...@mailman.qth.net
wrote:

>..as it holds out the possibility of an external 500W
> >   Elecraft tuner!  Make it remotable, capable of driving a balanced or
> >   unbalanced load and weatherproof, please  ;>)
> > 
> > 73Craig   AC0DS
> > 


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Re: [Elecraft] OT: Identify Transistor

2010-04-19 Thread Paul Meier
In this drawing the dashed line is a dimension line.

Paul K7PM

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[Elecraft] switching from vfo a to b in sync am

2010-04-19 Thread Gary Lee
I noticed the other night while listening to the gran ole opry on the k3, 
that when I pressed the a/b (keypad 1) button to switch to radio havana on 
5970, got a longer beep and nothing happened.

But, when on a ham band, a/b worked fine.

Am I missing something, or is this a bug? 

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Re: [Elecraft] P3 Information Page now on Elecraft Web Page

2010-04-19 Thread Eric Swartz - WA6HHQ, Elecraft
Not at this time.

73, Eric


On 4/19/2010 6:23 PM, Wes Stewart wrote:
> Are the screen colors be user selectable?
>
>
> --- On Mon, 4/19/10, Eric Swartz - WA6HHQ, Elecraft  wrote:
>
>
>> From: Eric Swartz - WA6HHQ, Elecraft
>> Subject: [Elecraft] P3 Information Page now on Elecraft Web Page
>> To: "Elecraft Reflector"
>> Date: Monday, April 19, 2010, 7:08 PM
>> We've now recovered from the Visalia
>> DX convention and have uploaded the
>> P3 Panadapter information page to the Elecraft web page.
>>
>> The direct P3 info page link is:
>>
>> http://www.elecraft.com/P3/p3.htm
>>
>> 73, Eric  WA6HHQ
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Re: [Elecraft] P3 Information Page now on Elecraft Web Page

2010-04-19 Thread Wes Stewart
Are the screen colors be user selectable?


--- On Mon, 4/19/10, Eric Swartz - WA6HHQ, Elecraft  wrote:

> From: Eric Swartz - WA6HHQ, Elecraft 
> Subject: [Elecraft] P3 Information Page now on Elecraft Web Page
> To: "Elecraft Reflector" 
> Date: Monday, April 19, 2010, 7:08 PM
> We've now recovered from the Visalia
> DX convention and have uploaded the 
> P3 Panadapter information page to the Elecraft web page.
> 
> The direct P3 info page link is:
> 
> http://www.elecraft.com/P3/p3.htm
> 
> 73, Eric  WA6HHQ
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Re: [Elecraft] Grounding negative side of power supply?

2010-04-19 Thread Bob McGraw - K4TAX
Refer to the NEC.  It's their rule.

As a side note, a loss of property covered by insurance may be dissallowed 
if they find improper grounding contributed to the damage.  And they 
reference the NEC with regard to "proper".


73
Bob, K4TAX



- Original Message - 
From: "Jim Brown" 
To: "Elecraft List" 
Sent: Monday, April 19, 2010 7:49 PM
Subject: Re: [Elecraft] Grounding negative side of power supply?


> On Mon, 19 Apr 2010 19:36:29 -0500, Bob McGraw - K4TAX wrote:
>
>>Now, with the radio connected between the receiving
>>antenna and the AC mains, the path for the current difference is through 
>>the
>>radio and power supply.
>
> I'm with Tom on this one. Here's why.  First, remember that lightning is 
> NOT
> DC, it is RF, with spectra VERY broadly centered around 1 MH. Second, the
> coax from the antenna MUST be bonded to the building entry panel, and from
> there to all the house grounds. Third, the coax from the RX antenna SHOULD
> have at least one big honker ferrite choke on it at the antenna end, and
> another near the station. In other words, there should be at least several 
> K
> ohms in series with the coax at the frequency of lightning. That causes
> lightning to seek a lower impedance path to earth than one through the 
> house
> (and the shack). Like the ground rod at the antenna.
>
> Bottom line -- I don't see a bond helping lightning safety, and as Tom has
> noted, it sure doesn't help with RX noise.
>
> 73,
>
> Jim K9YC
>
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Re: [Elecraft] KPA500

2010-04-19 Thread Joe Planisky
Hi Tom,

Please expand on your comment.  I had the same thought as Vic.  Why  
wouldn't a toroidal power transformer have less magnetic field  
coupling to external circuits than a conventional E/I core transformer?

73
--
Joe KB8AP

On Apr 19, 2010, at 5:38 PM, Tom W8JI wrote:

> Don't bet on it.   :-)
>
>
> <<
> - Original Message -
> From: "Vic K2VCO" 
> Obviously I haven't tried it (!) but I suspect that the
> external magnetic field from a
> toroidal transformer is much less extensive than that of the
> usual laminated type.
>>>
>

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[Elecraft] k2 power control fault

2010-04-19 Thread luca
Hi friends
today the K2 ATU behaved in crazy way. But that is another problem!
After 2 second tuning (always swr=5) , the k2 switched off.
I switched on again the radio but now the power control does not work.
In qrp mode it give 20 watts , in qro mode give 100 watts. no way to control 
the power output.
the power meter does not work. no dots in tx mode.
Please anyone could give some suggest to fix the problem.
thanks
luca 
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[Elecraft] P3 Information Page now on Elecraft Web Page

2010-04-19 Thread Eric Swartz - WA6HHQ, Elecraft
We've now recovered from the Visalia DX convention and have uploaded the 
P3 Panadapter information page to the Elecraft web page.

The direct P3 info page link is:

http://www.elecraft.com/P3/p3.htm

73, Eric  WA6HHQ

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Re: [Elecraft] Grounding negative side of power supply?

2010-04-19 Thread Jim Brown
On Mon, 19 Apr 2010 19:36:29 -0500, Bob McGraw - K4TAX wrote:

>Now, with the radio connected between the receiving 
>antenna and the AC mains, the path for the current difference is through the 
>radio and power supply. 

I'm with Tom on this one. Here's why.  First, remember that lightning is NOT 
DC, it is RF, with spectra VERY broadly centered around 1 MH. Second, the 
coax from the antenna MUST be bonded to the building entry panel, and from 
there to all the house grounds. Third, the coax from the RX antenna SHOULD 
have at least one big honker ferrite choke on it at the antenna end, and 
another near the station. In other words, there should be at least several K 
ohms in series with the coax at the frequency of lightning. That causes 
lightning to seek a lower impedance path to earth than one through the house 
(and the shack). Like the ground rod at the antenna. 

Bottom line -- I don't see a bond helping lightning safety, and as Tom has 
noted, it sure doesn't help with RX noise. 

73,

Jim K9YC


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Re: [Elecraft] KPA500

2010-04-19 Thread Tom W8JI
Don't bet on it.   :-)


<<
- Original Message - 
From: "Vic K2VCO" 
Obviously I haven't tried it (!) but I suspect that the 
external magnetic field from a
toroidal transformer is much less extensive than that of the 
usual laminated type.
>> 

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Re: [Elecraft] OT: Identify Transistor

2010-04-19 Thread Sam Morgan
Don Rasmussen wrote:
> Help please - in this diagram, the bottom most drawing shows the Source Drain
> and Gate in a triangle configuration.
> 
> http://www.nteinc.com/specs/100to199/pdf/nte133.pdf
> 
> Is the view from top down or looking from below the circle that is the
> transistor case?
> 
just hazarding a guess here Don
generally in mechanical drawings
when looking straight on at something,
it is drawn as solid lines

when it is seen 'through' an item,
it is drawn as dotted lines,
representing hidden or invisible lines

so I'd say the view was from the bottom
-- 
GB & 73
K5OAI
Sam Morgan
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Re: [Elecraft] Grounding negative side of power supply?

2010-04-19 Thread Bob McGraw - K4TAX
To Tom, Bill and all:

I never said anything about a "direct" strike.  Don't bother trying to 
protect for a direct strike.   Nothing will survive a direct strike.

The problem is two ground points, separated by some distance of earth be it 
5 ft, 50 ft or 500 ft.  During a nearby strike the energy from the nearby 
strike is dissipated largely across the surface of the earth up to a depth 
of some 18" to 24".  Due to resistance between the two ground points and the 
energy flowing through the earth there will be a difference in potential 
between the two points.  Now, with the radio connected between the receiving 
antenna and the AC mains, the path for the current difference is through the 
radio and power supply.

It's your radio, it's your choice.  You decide.

73
Bob, K4TAX

- Original Message - 
From: "Tom W8JI" 
To: ; "Bill Coleman" 
Cc: 
Sent: Monday, April 19, 2010 12:03 AM
Subject: Re: [Elecraft] Grounding negative side of power supply?


> This appears to be a question from January 20, 2010, so it
> is a little late, but a person never wants to connect the
> ground rod of the K9AY antenna or any other small or low
> receiving antenna to the mains ground.
>
> First, it would kill the advantage of having the antenna. If
> you are going to do that, don't bother installing the
> antenna. It will hurt the antenna in more than one way.
>
> Second, it is not necessary for safety. It is not a large
> tall structure and is not likely at all to be involved with
> a direct lightning hit, and even if it were hit the ground
> at the cable entrance to the house would provide all the
> required protection.
>
> The shack ground and the antenna entrance ground should be
> bonded to the mains, but the K9AY or any other low noise
> receiving array must have an isolated ground. The cable
> leaving the receiving antenna should be buried, should have
> common mode isolation, and should be grounded at the house
> entrance to a ground that is bonded to the mains ground.
>
> 73 Tom
>
>
> - Original Message - 
> From: "Robert Mcgraw" 
> To: "Bill Coleman" 
> Cc: ; 
> Sent: Sunday, April 18, 2010 10:35 PM
> Subject: Re: [Elecraft] Grounding negative side of power
> supply?
>
>
> Yes, do provide a driven ground for the K9AY receiving
> antenna.  This is
> required for lightning protection.  AND be sure to bond this
> ground to
> the AC mains ground for the house.  Failure to do this will
> produce a
> voltage difference or step voltage between the two ground
> during a nearby
> lightning strike.  The voltage difference can be enough to
> damage or
> destroy the radio connected between the antenna and the AC
> power.  AND,
> bonding of all grounds to a common point is a requirement of
> the NEC.
>
> Remember, lighting has traveled through several thousand
> feet of air.  A
> balun will offer little to no protection in this regard.
> Now placing a
> choke balun or a 1:1 current balun at the feed point will
> reduce common
> mode noise on the coax feed line.
>
> 73
> Bob, K4TAX
>
>
>
>>
>> On Jan 20, 2010, at 11:47 PM, Richard S. Lindzen wrote:
>>
>>> Dear Don,
>>>
>>> This leaves me a bit concerned.  I am planning to put up
>>> a K9AY
>>> receiving antenna in my backyard and it is supposed to be
>>> connected
>>> to a ground rod.  I had never seen it suggested that this
>>> must be
>>> connected to the utility ground stake.  I'm not even sure
>>> where the
>>> utility ground stake is.  I've never noticed one though I
>>> will ask my
>>> electrician.  If there is one, it is likely to be pretty
>>> far from the
>>> K9AY.
>>
>> For the K9AY, your best bet is to make sure the antenna
>> ground and the
>> coax ground are completely isolated. I do this by
>> magnetically coupling
>> the coax with a 9:1 transformer. Otherwise, common-mode
>> noise can move
>> out the shield and be picked up by the antenna.
>>
>> Bill Coleman, AA4LR, PP-ASELMail: aa...@arrl.net
>> Web: http://boringhamradiopart.blogspot.com
>> Quote: "Not within a thousand years will man ever fly!"
>> -- Wilbur Wright, 1901
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[Elecraft] OT: Identify Transistor

2010-04-19 Thread Don Rasmussen
Help please - in this diagram, the bottom most drawing shows the Source Drain 
and Gate in a triangle configuration. 

http://www.nteinc.com/specs/100to199/pdf/nte133.pdf

Is the view from top down or looking from below the circle that is the 
transistor case?

tia...
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[Elecraft] test

2010-04-19 Thread je1trv
sri, this is test message
Atsu, JE1TRV

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Re: [Elecraft] K3 as hand luggage

2010-04-19 Thread Felipe Ceglia - PY1NB
Thank you all for the replies!


73,


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Re: [Elecraft] News from Visalia!

2010-04-19 Thread Richard Thorne
Yes, good questions.

If a tuner is in the works please have the amp automatically bypassed 
when a tuning cycle takes place.

Rich - N5ZC

On 4/19/2010 5:48 PM, David and Dianne on Comcast wrote:
> Hi Eric,
>
> Might you add to our better understanding of the ATU button appearing on
> the KPA 500 in some of the jpegs from Visalia?
>
> Are you planning to offer an outboard companion tuner with the amp or
> planning to support one of another vendor such a LDG?
>
> Thanks in advance for any insight.
>
> de N1LQ-Dave
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[Elecraft] News from Visalia!

2010-04-19 Thread David and Dianne on Comcast
Hi Eric,

Might you add to our better understanding of the ATU button appearing on 
the KPA 500 in some of the jpegs from Visalia?

Are you planning to offer an outboard companion tuner with the amp or 
planning to support one of another vendor such a LDG?

Thanks in advance for any insight.

de N1LQ-Dave
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Re: [Elecraft] Good photos of KPA500

2010-04-19 Thread lstavenhagen

Nice looking amp! I'm curious about what the display is reading? And yes I
also see the ATU button in this photo, which I suppose may or may not be for
real...

73,
LS
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Re: [Elecraft] time to order your P3, design details?

2010-04-19 Thread Fred Jensen
Al Lorona wrote:

> That is really pretty, but my prevailing thought was that perhaps
> it's just too much eye candy-- which really doesn't make interpreting
> the data any easier. The spectrum readout-- arguably the most
> important area of the screen-- is difficult to concentrate on with
> the distraction of the other detail (color, shading, texture, 3D
> effects, text, labels, buttons, controls) of the skin.

How much of the P3 display information will I miss?  I have no color vision.

73,

Fred K6DGW
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- CU in the 2010 Cal QSO Party 2-3 Oct 2010
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[Elecraft] 300w HF amp/kit

2010-04-19 Thread Edward Cole
Thanks for the informative discourse on the FCC.  My intent in my 
original posting was to merely test the waters - see if the idea had 
any interest or merit.  I am building one of the CCI kits 
(EB-27A).  So this is not a new design approach.  I wondered if there 
might be interest being able to purchase them assembled.  One writer 
suggested just offering to assemble them.  Probably the easiest 
approach.  I will not make any decision until I build "my" amp.  If 
it tests good then I may entertain commercial ideas.

I am not a multi-millionaire industrialist, just a retired 
engineer/technician/ham with the interest and ability to build 
things.  I am QRV 500-KHz to 10-GHz.  EME on 144, 432, and 1296.  I 
keep an eye toward ham business opportunities and this looked promising.

In Free America, it is too bad that a government entity punishes one 
segment of society for the gov'ts inability to regulate another 
segment.  But I can continue to live on SSA and Medicare living below 
the poverty level and lobby my congress-person for more handouts 
instead of doing free-enterprise.  My little rant.  Of course that is 
not my attitude, and I will not let this stop me.

This probably exhausts this topic so no further replies are required.

Loving my new K3!  I will post my progress with the CCI kit on:
http://www.kl7uw.com/HF.htm

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Date: Mon, 19 Apr 2010 10:50:36 -0400
From: "Paul Christensen" 
Subject: Re: [Elecraft] News from Visalia!
To: "Elecraft Reflector" 
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Content-Type: text/plain; format=flowed; charset="iso-8859-1";
 reply-type=original

The 15 dB gain limitation made more sense when Part 97.317 included a
companion restriction of requiring not less than 50-watts drive power to
attain the amp's rated output power.  If a Part 95 user had the wherewithal
to somehow modify a recently manufactured QRP-input type amp, 15 dB still
places a 4W Part 95 transceiver at roughly 140-watts AM, 400W SSB (Part
95.410).  Part 97.317(a)(3) already states: "no amplification (0 dB gain)
between 26 MHz and 28 MHz."

I believe the gain restriction could be dispensed with, and the remaining
sections of 97.317 kept intact -- and little detriment would occur.

As to HF amp kits requiring certification, I see no dispositive section in
the CFR that affirmatively compels certification of a kit for use in Part 97
service.  Section 97.315 clearly discusses "manufactured and imported"
amplifiers -- kits are not specifically included in the rule.  However,
there may be relevant case law on the matter that backs up the CFR -- and
the FCC may have invoked internal policy decisions in the past, but someone
could create an argument that if the FCC had wanted to compel certification
of HF amp kits, they could have easily done so and that requirement should
have been implemented as a matter of procedure under the APA.

The argument can be further bolstered under Part 97.315(a)(1) which states
amplifier certification is not required if:  "...the amplifier is
constructed or modified by an amateur radio operator for use at an amateur
station."  Does the term "construction" mean home-brew only with parts
secured on-hand and through multiple vendors?  Or, does construction also
mean "in kit form," where the parts are consolidated for sale?  The question
is then: how does one interpret the exact rule of law?

The "in kit form" term could have been easily defined and included in
Sections 97.315 and 2.815, but it isn't.  If the government intends to
prohibit something that's simple to read and interpret, they need to codify
it in a rule and not leave it to guess work. Other means to get the FCC's
position on the matter can take the form of form of a Declaratory Ruling or
Advisory Opinion.

Paul, W9AC


73, Ed - KL7UW, WD2XSH/45
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Re: [Elecraft] K3 birdies

2010-04-19 Thread Mike K2MK

Hi Eugeni:

You can reduce and sometimes remove birdies just by moving the black
shielded cables around inside the radio. Remove the top cover, turn on the
power, tune the radio to a birdie, move the cables. I used some tape to hold
the longer cables in position once I found a good spot.

I personally do not like the software solution that was also suggested. It
leaves holes in the audio as you tune across the band. 

73,
Mike K2MK



Eugeni - EA3QP wrote:
> 
> I'm hearing birdies in the following frequencies:
> 
> 28.443
> 21.273,1
> 14.186.6 (the most important one with s3)
> 7.068.5
> 3.583,2/3.786.0
> 
> Also I've done the VCO calibration but the birdies in main and 
> sub.receiver remains.
> 
> S/N: 38xx.
> 
> Anybody has the same birdies, any advice to fix it?.
> 
> Advanced thanks
> 
> Eugeni - EA3QP
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Re: [Elecraft] K3 birdies

2010-04-19 Thread Wes Stewart
I have:

28.443 - (S3)
21.273 - (S4)
7.0685 +/- (S7)
3.580 +  (S4)

Wes  N7WS

--- On Mon, 4/19/10, Eugeni - EA3QP  wrote:

> From: Eugeni - EA3QP 
> Subject: [Elecraft] K3 birdies
> To: elecraft@mailman.qth.net
> Date: Monday, April 19, 2010, 12:19 PM
> I'm hearing birdies in the following
> frequencies:
> 
> 28.443
> 21.273,1
> 14.186.6 (the most important one with s3)
> 7.068.5
> 3.583,2/3.786.0
> 
> Also I've done the VCO calibration but the birdies in main
> and 
> sub.receiver remains.
> 
> S/N: 38xx.
> 
> Anybody has the same birdies, any advice to fix it?.
> 
> Advanced thanks
> 
> Eugeni - EA3QP
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Re: [Elecraft] News from Visalia!

2010-04-19 Thread n...@cableone.net

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Re: [Elecraft] Dayton Contest Dinner

2010-04-19 Thread Julius Fazekas n2wn

Thanks for the interest, the seat has been spoken for...

Julius Fazekas

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Elecraft K2 #4455

Elecraft K3/100 #366

Elecraft K3/100 #1875

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To: "Julius Fazekas n2wn" 
Date: Monday, April 19, 2010, 12:26 PM



The seat has been spoken for...


Thanks!Julius Fazekas

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Re: [Elecraft] K3 button problem question

2010-04-19 Thread Paul Ferguson
Thanks to Harry, WE1X, for letting me know of a similar button problem he had. 
It is most likely my problem is not caused by the components I suspected, but 
rather by the failure of the switch inside the encoder for Speed/Mic. 

I was thinking only of the rubber-covered buttons, which cannot result in a 
ground out. However the four encoders containing push switches can fail by 
putting a ground out to a scan line. There were a few failures on early 
encoders, and Elecraft now uses encoders from a different source. I sent my 
front panel board back for repair.

73,
Paul
K5ESW


> Seven of my front panel buttons do not function on K3 #757. I also used the 
> Switch Test to see that they give no scan codes. All other buttons work OK.
> 
> Looking at the the schematic for the "Front Panel - Switches" I see these
> seven 
> buttons are all connected to the SCANADC0 line into U3. I took off the front
> panel and put an ohmmeter from ground to the SCANADC0 line, and it gives a few
> ohms. The other lines (SCANADC1-7) show as open.
> 
> I looks like either U3, C30, or R27 is bad. Does anyone see any other 
> possibilities?
> 
> I don't relish replacing U3 since it is a 16-pin IC. Maybe some Chip-Quik or
> tiny cutters to snip the leads would ease the job.
> 
> 73,
> Paul
> K5ESW

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Re: [Elecraft] time to order your P3, design details?

2010-04-19 Thread sfbonk


The P3 controls sure don't look simple to me. Then again, this may be the Ten 
Tec version since it has Orion on it.

http://www.shutterpoint.com/Photos-ViewPhoto.cfm?id=668020

W3OU, Steve






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To: elecraft@mailman.qth.net
Sent: Mon, Apr 19, 2010 2:26 pm
Subject: Re: [Elecraft] time to order your P3, design details?



 To get you started, look at ... 
 http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=q_Fom1QwNa4&feature=related  
That is really pretty, but my prevailing thought was that perhaps it's just too 
uch eye candy-- which really doesn't make interpreting the data any easier. The 
pectrum readout-- arguably the most important area of the screen-- is difficult 
o concentrate on with the distraction of the other detail (color, shading, 
exture, 3D effects, text, labels, buttons, controls) of the skin.
I really believe simpler is better. Let me illustrate by example. The last time 
ou flew on a Boeing 767 this is what the pilots saw on the flight deck:
ttp://www.airliners.net/photo/Continental-Airlines/Boeing-767-424-ER/070/&sid=0444c7e1280e36facb8845d82b29142f
   

any of you would perhaps laugh at such a simplistic 1970s display and would 
ind excuses not to pay money for it in 2010. But this is certainly a 
ission-critical application where simpler displays mean quick, efficient 
nterpretation by the pilots in whose hands we place our lives. They gotta be 
ble to glance and read the situation instantly, without having to twiddle or 
ead a lot of controls. 
I know I'm comparing apples and oranges. And I know I'm sounding like an old 
uy. But the trend in radios-- whether traditional or SDR-- is certainly going 
owards more and more eye candy. These fancier and fancier GUIs (and front 
anels) can start to make one dizzy. If it doesn't have at least four blue LEDs 
nd two or three irregular-shaped pink buttons, people won't buy it, I guess!
The display of the P3 shares many characteristics with the 767 display. Without 
etting into any of the pro-computer/ anti-computer arguments, this is one 
eason why I like the way the P3 has been laid out.
I kinda like simple and uncluttered. If it's good enough for the captain of a 
67, it's good enough for me.
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Re: [Elecraft] News from Visalia!

2010-04-19 Thread Eric Swartz - WA6HHQ, Elecraft
Yup - I read the same section again this morning. My discussions with 
them have indicated that they now consider 'amplifier', as referred to 
on their rules, to encompass any amplifier - kit or built.

We'll be offering the KPA-500 both ways. (FCC Certified.)

73, Eric  WA6HHQ



On 4/19/2010 11:00 AM, Paul Christensen wrote:
> Eric:
>
> The term "kit" has indeed been omitted from the rule.  I had to take another
> look at the rule and track the changes of the CFR.  Before mid-2006, Section
> 2.815(b) had read:
>
> "(b) After April 27, 1978, no person shall manufacture, sell or lease, offer
> for sale or lease (including advertising for sale or
> lease), or import, ship, or distribute for the purpose of selling or leasing
> or offering for sale or lease, any external radio frequency
> power amplifier or amplifier *kit* capable of operation on any frequency or
> frequencies between 24 and 35 MHz."
> Then, in 2006, in addition to other changes affecting the rule, the word
> "kit" was omitted and as of today, Section 2.815(b) reads:"(b) No person
> shall manufacture, sell or lease, offer for sale or lease
> including advertising for sale or lease) or import, ship or distribute for
> the  purpose  of selling or leasing or offering for sale or lease, any
> external  radio  frequency power amplifier capable of operation on any
> frequency or frequencies below 144 MHz unless the amplifier has received a
> grant of certification in accordance with subpart J of this part and other
> relevant parts of this chapter..."That said, want to start offering the
> KPA500 as a kit?.  Paul, W9AC
> - Original Message - From: "Eric Swartz - WA6HHQ, Elecraft"
> 
> To: "Paul Christensen"
> Cc: "Elecraft Reflector"
> Sent: Monday, April 19, 2010 12:44 PM
> Subject: Re: [Elecraft] News from Visalia!
>
>
>
>> Kits for sale by are specifically -included- in the FCC certification
>> requirements.
>>
>> 73,  Eric   WA6HHQ
>> 
>>
>>
>> On 4/19/2010 7:50 AM, Paul Christensen wrote:
>>  
>>> As to HF amp kits requiring certification, I see no dispositive section
>>> in
>>> the CFR that affirmatively compels certification of a kit for use in Part
>>> 97
>>> service.
>>>
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Re: [Elecraft] "ea3qp at yahoo.es " -- was "any advice to fix it?"

2010-04-19 Thread Gary Hvizdak
Sorry about the cut & paste error which resulted in the wrong subject line.

-Original Message-
From: Gary Hvizdak [mailto:garyhviz...@cfl.rr.com] 
Sent: Monday 19 April 2010 1434
To: 'ea...@yahoo.es'
Cc: 'elecraft@mailman.qth.net'
Subject: RE: any advice to fix it?

On Mon Apr 19 2010 at 1419 EDT, Eugeni (EA3QP) wrote ...

"I'm hearing birdies in the following frequencies ... any advice to fix it?"

--

Eugeni,

You can use the "SIG RMV [T]" (tech mode) config menu command to remove
birdies from just your main receiver.  See page 58 in the latest K3
Operator's Manual for full details.

73,
Gary  KI4GGX
K3 #2724


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Re: [Elecraft] any advice to fix it?

2010-04-19 Thread Gary Hvizdak
On Mon Apr 19 2010 at 1419 EDT, Eugeni (EA3QP) wrote ...

"I'm hearing birdies in the following frequencies ... any advice to fix it?"

--

Eugeni,

You can use the "SIG RMV [T]" (tech mode) config menu command to remove
birdies from just your main receiver.  See page 58 in the latest K3
Operator's Manual for full details.

73,
Gary  KI4GGX
K3 #2724


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Re: [Elecraft] time to order your P3, design details?

2010-04-19 Thread Al Lorona

> To get you started, look at ... 
> http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=q_Fom1QwNa4&feature=related  

That is really pretty, but my prevailing thought was that perhaps it's just too 
much eye candy-- which really doesn't make interpreting the data any easier. 
The spectrum readout-- arguably the most important area of the screen-- is 
difficult to concentrate on with the distraction of the other detail (color, 
shading, texture, 3D effects, text, labels, buttons, controls) of the skin.

I really believe simpler is better. Let me illustrate by example. The last time 
you flew on a Boeing 767 this is what the pilots saw on the flight deck:
http://www.airliners.net/photo/Continental-Airlines/Boeing-767-424-ER/070/&sid=0444c7e1280e36facb8845d82b29142f  
 

Many of you would perhaps laugh at such a simplistic 1970s display and would 
find excuses not to pay money for it in 2010. But this is certainly a 
mission-critical application where simpler displays mean quick, efficient 
interpretation by the pilots in whose hands we place our lives. They gotta be 
able to glance and read the situation instantly, without having to twiddle or 
read a lot of controls. 

I know I'm comparing apples and oranges. And I know I'm sounding like an old 
guy. But the trend in radios-- whether traditional or SDR-- is certainly going 
towards more and more eye candy. These fancier and fancier GUIs (and front 
panels) can start to make one dizzy. If it doesn't have at least four blue LEDs 
and two or three irregular-shaped pink buttons, people won't buy it, I guess!

The display of the P3 shares many characteristics with the 767 display. Without 
getting into any of the pro-computer/ anti-computer arguments, this is one 
reason why I like the way the P3 has been laid out.

I kinda like simple and uncluttered. If it's good enough for the captain of a 
767, it's good enough for me.
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[Elecraft] K3 birdies

2010-04-19 Thread Eugeni - EA3QP
I'm hearing birdies in the following frequencies:

28.443
21.273,1
14.186.6 (the most important one with s3)
7.068.5
3.583,2/3.786.0

Also I've done the VCO calibration but the birdies in main and 
sub.receiver remains.

S/N: 38xx.

Anybody has the same birdies, any advice to fix it?.

Advanced thanks

Eugeni - EA3QP
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Re: [Elecraft] P3 and KPA500 Photos

2010-04-19 Thread Gary Gregory
Dick,

IF the "Remote Tuner" becomes a reality, I wonder if it will handle Balanced
AND Unbalanced feedline?

I would be VERY hopeful that it would.

For my type of operation it would be "Heaven Sent"

Oh well, back to dreaming of the futureand setting aside some more
"Pennies" into my E - account..(Grin)

73's
Gary

On Tue, Apr 20, 2010 at 4:10 AM, Edward Dickinson, III <
softb...@windstream.net> wrote:

> Ooops...make that ATU, not Tune.
>
>
> 
> 
>
> A button for TUNE and a Hold for ANT might suggest a post KPA500 Tuner with
> Antenna Switching.
>
>
> 73,
> Dick - KA5KKT
>
>
> 
> 
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Re: [Elecraft] P3 and KPA500 Photos

2010-04-19 Thread Edward Dickinson, III
Ooops...make that ATU, not Tune.




A button for TUNE and a Hold for ANT might suggest a post KPA500 Tuner with
Antenna Switching.


73,
Dick - KA5KKT





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Re: [Elecraft] P3 and KPA500 Photos

2010-04-19 Thread Edward Dickinson, III
A button for TUNE and a Hold for ANT might suggest a post KPA500 Tuner with
Antenna Switching.


73,
Dick - KA5KKT




Here are a few Visalia 2010 photos of the P3 and KPA500 taken by Bo
N7BK:
http://pbckt.com/sQ.dJyP

73 and enjoy
Tony VE3QF

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Re: [Elecraft] KPA500 AMP Frequency Coverage

2010-04-19 Thread Gary Gregory
Band switching - Now that is a great feature.

Gary
vk4fd

On Tue, Apr 20, 2010 at 3:41 AM,  wrote:

> On Apr 19, 2010, at 8:34 AM, Vic K2VCO wrote:
>
> Yes, it covers 1.8 - 54 MHz.
> 
>
> AND if you press the band button on the KPA500, it will also switch the
> band on the K3.
>
> 73 - Steve WB6RSE
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Re: [Elecraft] News from Visalia!

2010-04-19 Thread Paul Christensen
Eric:

The term "kit" has indeed been omitted from the rule.  I had to take another 
look at the rule and track the changes of the CFR.  Before mid-2006, Section 
2.815(b) had read:

"(b) After April 27, 1978, no person shall manufacture, sell or lease, offer 
for sale or lease (including advertising for sale or
lease), or import, ship, or distribute for the purpose of selling or leasing 
or offering for sale or lease, any external radio frequency
power amplifier or amplifier *kit* capable of operation on any frequency or 
frequencies between 24 and 35 MHz."
Then, in 2006, in addition to other changes affecting the rule, the word 
"kit" was omitted and as of today, Section 2.815(b) reads:"(b) No person 
shall manufacture, sell or lease, offer for sale or lease
including advertising for sale or lease) or import, ship or distribute for
the  purpose  of selling or leasing or offering for sale or lease, any
external  radio  frequency power amplifier capable of operation on any
frequency or frequencies below 144 MHz unless the amplifier has received a
grant of certification in accordance with subpart J of this part and other
relevant parts of this chapter..."That said, want to start offering the 
KPA500 as a kit? .  Paul, W9AC
- Original Message - From: "Eric Swartz - WA6HHQ, Elecraft" 

To: "Paul Christensen" 
Cc: "Elecraft Reflector" 
Sent: Monday, April 19, 2010 12:44 PM
Subject: Re: [Elecraft] News from Visalia!


> Kits for sale by are specifically -included- in the FCC certification 
> requirements.
>
> 73,  Eric   WA6HHQ
> 
>
>
> On 4/19/2010 7:50 AM, Paul Christensen wrote:
>> As to HF amp kits requiring certification, I see no dispositive section 
>> in
>> the CFR that affirmatively compels certification of a kit for use in Part 
>> 97
>> service. 

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Re: [Elecraft] News from Visalia! (:-))

2010-04-19 Thread Gary Gregory
Jim Brown wrote

I just returned from Visalia. The exhibit hall included large booths
showing Icom and Yaesu rigs. The Elecraft booth was JAMMED from the minute
the doors opened until they closed. The Yaesu and Icom booths had only
modest traffic, and were oftn next to deserted.

Now THAT is interesting..brought on a chuckle Jim.

Wonder if Eric noticed

73's
Gary

On Tue, Apr 20, 2010 at 2:59 AM, Jim Brown wrote:

> On Sun, 18 Apr 2010 16:16:58 -0400, Terry Posey wrote:
>
> >ALS600 with the Linear Power supply, AD5X Full Break In mod and an
> >external bandswitching accessory plus an MFJ998 would come in considerably
> >under the $2,000 price.
>
> Do I understand that you are equating MFJ with Elecraft?  That's quite a
> stretch! While I have great respect for W8JI's engineering, that does not
> extend to MFJ's manufacturing, and Ameritron has common ownership with MFJ.
> :)
>
> I can also buy at least twenty different models of 100 watt HF transceiver
> for much less than the cost of a K3. Yet I OWN two K3s.
>
> I just returned from Visalia. The exhibit hall included large booths
> showing Icom and Yaesu rigs. The Elecraft booth was JAMMED from the minute
> the doors opened until they closed. The Yaesu and Icom booths had only
> modest traffic, and were oftn next to deserted.
>
> 73,
>
> Jim K9YC
>
>
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Re: [Elecraft] KPA500 AMP Frequency Coverage

2010-04-19 Thread wb6rse1
On Apr 19, 2010, at 8:34 AM, Vic K2VCO wrote:

Yes, it covers 1.8 - 54 MHz.


AND if you press the band button on the KPA500, it will also switch the band on 
the K3.

73 - Steve WB6RSE

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[Elecraft] P3 and KPA500 Photos

2010-04-19 Thread Tony Fegan VE3QF
Here are a few Visalia 2010 photos of the P3 and KPA500 taken by Bo 
N7BK:
http://pbckt.com/sQ.dJyP

73 and enjoy
Tony VE3QF
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Re: [Elecraft] Snap-On Ferrites and RF Noise On 160M

2010-04-19 Thread Merv Schweigert
Another solution is to take the "zip" cord and pull it apart,  chuck two 
ends
in a variable speed drill and turn slowly,  it will make a very nice 
twisted
pair out of any guage.   Just be sure to use a length longer than what 
you need
as it looses length as it is twisted of course. 
To keep it in a tight twist I use small pieces of heat shrink spaced 
along the
wires at intervals.  I suppose one could use a piece of heat shrink over 
the
entire wire if you wanted. YMMV
73 Merv KH7C
> It is not jacketed, but submersible water pump wire is often twisted 
> and in sizes as large as one could reasonably wish.  Here is one 
> example:
>
> http://www.deanbennett.com/submersible-pump-wire.htm
>
> David K0LUM
>
> At 9:37 AM -0700 4/19/10, Jim Brown wrote:
>   
>> Another point. It has LONG been known that twisted pair wiring minimizes
>> the radiation and pickup of noise, yet we use parallel wire cable ("zip
>> cord") for power wiring in our ham shacks. That's plain stupid if we care
>> about noise and RF pickup! The problem is finding twisted pair cables of
>> suitable size. 
>>
>> 
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Re: [Elecraft] Good photos of KPA500

2010-04-19 Thread Wes Stewart
Wow.  After looking at all those photos I think I'm going to go on a diet.  (I 
can't do a thing about the being old part).

Wes  N7WS

--- On Mon, 4/19/10, Doug Faunt N6TQS +1-510-655-8604  wrote:

> From: Doug Faunt N6TQS +1-510-655-8604 
> Subject: [Elecraft] Good photos of KPA500
> To: Elecraft@mailman.qth.net
> Date: Monday, April 19, 2010, 10:02 AM
> Thanks to Bob, N6TV, there are some
> good quality photos of the KPA500
> available here and ff.
> http://picasaweb.google.com/lh/sredir?uname=rawilson&target=PHOTO&id=5461795475230448002&aid=5461794434122956513&authkey=Gv1sRgCIb8gL7YncDB2gE&feat=email
> 
> 73, doug



  
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Re: [Elecraft] My feelings

2010-04-19 Thread Eric Swartz - WA6HHQ, Elecraft
Folks - PLEASE, no more postings on this subject.

73, Eric
Elecraft List Moderator - really!
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Re: [Elecraft] My feelings [END of Thread]

2010-04-19 Thread Eric Swartz - WA6HHQ, Elecraft
Don will be back shortly. :-)   We all have 'bad hair days' and 
occasionally hit 'send' too quickly.

Folks, As just posted, this thread is now ended.

(Mus be the lack of sunspots that has people going a little crazy..   ;-)

73, Eric
Elecraft List moderator


On 4/19/2010 9:52 AM, Mark - W5EZY wrote:
> I sold most of my ham gear, including my K2/100 and KAT100 in EC2 case, 2+
> years ago to take up motorcycling.  Now, I've gotten back into ham radio and
> purchased another K2/100.  Started back reading the Reflector and enjoying
> the most-helpful posts of Don Wilhelm.  Now, this mess happens; I can't
> believe the nit-pickyness and short-sightedness of some people.  We have all
> lost a good resource help and friend to this forum.  Don has helped me in my
> first two K2 builds and I have learned a lot from him, just reading his
> responses to many others.  He'll be greatly missed, all because of a couple
> of jerks that just had to make a mountain out of a mole hill; totally
> unnecessary.  I, too, hope he reconsiders letting these malcontents run him
> off.  Of course, all this is JMHO.
>
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Re: [Elecraft] My feelings [Edd of thread]

2010-04-19 Thread Eric Swartz - WA6HHQ, Elecraft
Guys - Let's end this thread and all related ones now.

73, Eric
Elecraft List Moderator
(I go out of town for a show and the list goes crazy! ;-)


On 4/19/2010 9:37 AM, The Smiths wrote:
>
> Okay, enough is enough.. This has become SO out of control for no reason!
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Re: [Elecraft] My feelings

2010-04-19 Thread n0jrn
As if it's your duty to do that 

NOT

I didn't realize your name was ERIC

NOT

So it wasn't up to you to point anything out !Was it ?

IF there is a lesson to be learned here,  open your eyes and realize it's 
you that should be learning.

73   JerryN0JRN

On 4/19/2010 11:37:05 AM, The Smiths (notforc...@hotmail.com) wrote:
> Okay, enough is enough.. This has become SO out of control for no reason!
>
> Why do you feel that
> it's necessary to send this out to the group No one said that there 
> was anything wrong with Don or how helpful he his.  Don made a simple 
> mistake of "outing" someone's
> call sign and name on the group, as do many other people here. Not
> thinking about what
> they're doing or what affects it may have on a person that wishes to 
> remain anonymous.
>
> No one has said he was a "bad" person. No one has questioned his 
> helpfulness or dedication to this group!  I was simply making mention of 
> an action so that he, or others on this group wouldn't
> consider doing again when someone tries to remain anonymous. Nothing 
> more..
> There's no reason to come to anyone's defense here people.   Enough of
> this already!  Please.
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
> > Date: Mon, 19 Apr 2010 04:18:33 -0700
> > From: ad4c2...@yahoo.com
> > To: w1...@arrl.net
> > CC: elecraft@mailman.qth.net
> > Subject: Re: [Elecraft] My feelings
> >
> > I will back you up 300% Alan.
> > Don is a clear example of a gentleman,he is not only the most trustable
> source of 

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Re: [Elecraft] My feelings

2010-04-19 Thread Joe Planisky
G!  This is driving me nuts.  Don did NOT "out" someones call!!!   
The person in question put his callsign in the subject line of the  
message.  Foxjazz did that himself.  Don didn't do it.  All Don did  
was look up the call on QRZ.com to associate a name with the call.

I WILL continue to come to the defense of someone here when they're  
accused of doing something they clearly did not do.

--
Joe KB8AP


On Apr 19, 2010, at 9:37 AM, The Smiths wrote:

> Don made a simple mistake of "outing" someone's call sign and name  
> on the group, as do many other people here.
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Re: [Elecraft] Snap-On Ferrites and RF Noise On 160M

2010-04-19 Thread David Christ
It is not jacketed, but submersible water pump wire is often twisted 
and in sizes as large as one could reasonably wish.  Here is one 
example:

http://www.deanbennett.com/submersible-pump-wire.htm

David K0LUM

At 9:37 AM -0700 4/19/10, Jim Brown wrote:
>
>Another point. It has LONG been known that twisted pair wiring minimizes
>the radiation and pickup of noise, yet we use parallel wire cable ("zip
>cord") for power wiring in our ham shacks. That's plain stupid if we care
>about noise and RF pickup! The problem is finding twisted pair cables of
>suitable size. 
>
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Re: [Elecraft] News from Visalia! (:-))

2010-04-19 Thread Jim Brown
On Sun, 18 Apr 2010 16:16:58 -0400, Terry Posey wrote:

>ALS600 with the Linear Power supply, AD5X Full Break In mod and an
>external bandswitching accessory plus an MFJ998 would come in considerably
>under the $2,000 price. 

Do I understand that you are equating MFJ with Elecraft?  That's quite a 
stretch! While I have great respect for W8JI's engineering, that does not 
extend to MFJ's manufacturing, and Ameritron has common ownership with MFJ. 
:)

I can also buy at least twenty different models of 100 watt HF transceiver 
for much less than the cost of a K3. Yet I OWN two K3s. 

I just returned from Visalia. The exhibit hall included large booths 
showing Icom and Yaesu rigs. The Elecraft booth was JAMMED from the minute 
the doors opened until they closed. The Yaesu and Icom booths had only 
modest traffic, and were oftn next to deserted. 

73,

Jim K9YC


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Re: [Elecraft] My feelings

2010-04-19 Thread Mark - W5EZY

I sold most of my ham gear, including my K2/100 and KAT100 in EC2 case, 2+
years ago to take up motorcycling.  Now, I've gotten back into ham radio and
purchased another K2/100.  Started back reading the Reflector and enjoying
the most-helpful posts of Don Wilhelm.  Now, this mess happens; I can't
believe the nit-pickyness and short-sightedness of some people.  We have all
lost a good resource help and friend to this forum.  Don has helped me in my
first two K2 builds and I have learned a lot from him, just reading his
responses to many others.  He'll be greatly missed, all because of a couple
of jerks that just had to make a mountain out of a mole hill; totally
unnecessary.  I, too, hope he reconsiders letting these malcontents run him
off.  Of course, all this is JMHO. 
-- 
View this message in context: 
http://n2.nabble.com/My-feelings-tp4924471p4926478.html
Sent from the Elecraft mailing list archive at Nabble.com.
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Re: [Elecraft] News from Visalia!

2010-04-19 Thread Eric Swartz - WA6HHQ, Elecraft
Kits for sale by are specifically -included- in the FCC certification 
requirements.

73,  Eric   WA6HHQ



On 4/19/2010 7:50 AM, Paul Christensen wrote:
> As to HF amp kits requiring certification, I see no dispositive section in
> the CFR that affirmatively compels certification of a kit for use in Part 97
> service.
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[Elecraft] Snap-On Ferrites and RF Noise On 160M

2010-04-19 Thread Jim Brown
On Sun, 18 Apr 2010 19:00:19 -0400, Bill Coleman wrote:

>I found that putting a snap-on ferrite core around the power cord reduced 
>the spur to an S5 indication. A similar reduction could be had by placing 

>snap-on ferrite around the power output leads.

Study my tutorial on RFI and ferrites. 

http://audiosystemsgroup.com/RFI-Ham.pdf 

Most snap-on ferrites are designed for maximum effectiveness in the 150 MHz 
range. ANY "snap-on" ferrite is next to useless on 160M unless multiple 
turns are wound around it. If the wiring in question is radiating the trash 
as a common mode signal, you need enough turns around a ferrite core to 
place the very low-Q resonance of the ferrite choke near the frequency of 
the noise. This takes AT LEAST 10 turns through a relatively large #31 
ferrite core. 

I've successfully used some moderately horrific cheap switchers in my ham 
shack by putting good chokes on both input and output cables, and by adding 
RF capacitors across both the AC line and the DC line. You can also 
suppress differential noise from SMALL levels of DC current with a choke on 
only one conductor. High levels of DC current will saturate a choke on only 
one conductor, but most of us don't worry a lot about RX noise when we're 
transmitting. :)  

Another point. It has LONG been known that twisted pair wiring minimizes 
the radiation and pickup of noise, yet we use parallel wire cable ("zip 
cord") for power wiring in our ham shacks. That's plain stupid if we care 
about noise and RF pickup! The problem is finding twisted pair cables of 
suitable size.  

73,

Jim K9YC


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Re: [Elecraft] My feelings

2010-04-19 Thread The Smiths


Okay, enough is enough.. This has become SO out of control for no reason!

Why do you feel that it's necessary to send this out to the group No one 
said that there was anything wrong with Don or how helpful he his.  Don made a 
simple mistake of "outing" someone's call sign and name on the group, as do 
many other people here. Not thinking about what they're doing or what affects 
it may have on a person that wishes to remain anonymous.  

No one has said he was a "bad" person. No one has questioned his helpfulness or 
dedication to this group!  I was simply making mention of an action so that he, 
or others on this group wouldn't consider doing again when someone tries to 
remain anonymous. Nothing more.. There's no reason to come to anyone's defense 
here people.   Enough of this already!  Please.



 

 

 


 
> Date: Mon, 19 Apr 2010 04:18:33 -0700
> From: ad4c2...@yahoo.com
> To: w1...@arrl.net
> CC: elecraft@mailman.qth.net
> Subject: Re: [Elecraft] My feelings
> 
> I will back you up 300% Alan.  
> Don is a clear example of a gentleman,he is not only the most trustable 
> source of information on Elecraft radios but also a decent business man,I had 
> the chance once in the past to let him tune my K2 and he did a great job in a 
> short time and with a decent affordable service  fees.
> He also has my home doors for lunch or dinner opened at any time.
>  
> Hector
> AD4C
>  
> 
> 
> "For a refined ham it is compulsory to own a k3"
> 
> --- On Mon, 4/19/10, Alan Price  wrote:
> 
> 
> From: Alan Price 
> Subject: [Elecraft] My feelings
> To: "Elecraft" 
> Date: Monday, April 19, 2010, 10:28 AM
> 
> 
> 
> Fellow Elecrafters:
> 
> 
> 
> Normally I don't enter into conversations like this one.  In this case I feel 
> obligated.
> 
> 
> 
> I have known Don, through the reflector for many years.  He is probably the 
> largest source of Elecraft knowledge on the reflector.  He is also a 
> gentleman.  In the many years I have corresponded with him, he has be 
> courteous, honest and more than helpful.  He is welcome in my home here in 
> California for dinner on a moments notice.  I have nothing but respect for 
> him.
> 
> 
> 
> 73
> 
> Alan
> 
> W1HYV
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Re: [Elecraft] KPA500

2010-04-19 Thread Joe Planisky
I don't understand the "too quiet" comment, if it's intended to be  
serious.

As for the "unwanted modulations", that's probably why they've chosen  
a toroidal power transformer.

73
--
Joe KB8AP

On Apr 19, 2010, at 9:05 AM, Jerry T. Dowell wrote:

> And too quiet!
>
> It would not be advisable to operate a linear supply in close  
> proximity to
> the K3 or the K2. The resulting unwanted modulations have been  
> discussed
> previously.
>
> Jerry  AI6L
>
> -Original Message-
> From: Bob McGraw - K4TAX [mailto:rmcg...@blomand.net]
> Sent: Sunday, April 18, 2010 3:02 PM
> To: Doug Faunt N6TQS +1-510-655-8604
> Cc: elecraft@mailman.qth.net; m0...@alphadene.co.uk; d...@w3fpr.com
> Subject: Re: [Elecraft] KPA500
>
> I'll pass on linear supplies.  Too heavy, too inefficient.
>
> 73
> Bob, K4TAX

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Re: [Elecraft] Dayton Contest Dinner

2010-04-19 Thread Julius Fazekas n2wn

The seat has been spoken for...

Thanks!

-
Julius Fazekas
N2WN

Tennessee Contest Group
http://www.k4ro.net/tcg/index.html

Tennessee QSO Party
http://www.tnqp.org/

Elecraft K2/100 #4455
Elecraft K3/100 #366
Elecraft K3#1875
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Re: [Elecraft] KPA500

2010-04-19 Thread Vic K2VCO
On 4/19/2010 9:05 AM, Jerry T. Dowell wrote:
> And too quiet!
>
> It would not be advisable to operate a linear supply in close proximity to
> the K3 or the K2. The resulting unwanted modulations have been discussed
> previously.

Obviously I haven't tried it (!) but I suspect that the external magnetic field 
from a 
toroidal transformer is much less extensive than that of the usual laminated 
type.
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[Elecraft] Power Outlets for Ham Shacks

2010-04-19 Thread Jim Brown
On Sun, 18 Apr 2010 19:00:26 -0400, Bill Coleman wrote:

>There are hair dryers that draw more current than this. At 1500 watt draw is
>not unreasonable from a 120v outlet.

Yes and no. The current drawn by power supplies is NOT sinusoidal, it is a 
series of pulses at the positive and negative peaks of the 60 Hz sine wave to 
recharge the input filter capacitor. This causes the voltage drop in the 
wiring between the breaker panel and the outlet to be greater than would be 
predicted by Ohm's Law for a sine wave. This is true regardless of whether 
the power supply is a linear supply or a switching supply. 

In today's world, it makes good sense to over-size the conductors that feed 
ANY outlet, especially one that is likely to be heavily loaded. NEC (US 
electrical code) requires AT LEAST AWG #14 for a 15A outlet and #12 for a 20A 
outlet (and larger if the run to the outlet is long). Most of the cost of 
installing an outlet is labor. If you're going to add an outlet to your ham 
shack, I'd run #10 conductors (to reduce the voltage drop) and install a 20A 
breaker. 

Another point. Common neutrals should be avoided. That is, it is always best 
to run individual phase (hot) and neutral conductors to each outlet. 

You can read more about pulsed currents and the problems they cause in the 
Power and Grounding White Paper that's on my website. 

http://audiosystemsgroup.com/publish.htm 

73,

Jim Brown K9YC


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Re: [Elecraft] KPA500

2010-04-19 Thread Jerry T. Dowell
And too quiet!

It would not be advisable to operate a linear supply in close proximity to
the K3 or the K2. The resulting unwanted modulations have been discussed
previously. 

Jerry  AI6L

-Original Message-
From: Bob McGraw - K4TAX [mailto:rmcg...@blomand.net] 
Sent: Sunday, April 18, 2010 3:02 PM
To: Doug Faunt N6TQS +1-510-655-8604
Cc: elecraft@mailman.qth.net; m0...@alphadene.co.uk; d...@w3fpr.com
Subject: Re: [Elecraft] KPA500

I'll pass on linear supplies.  Too heavy, too inefficient.

73
Bob, K4TAX



- Original Message - 
From: "Doug Faunt N6TQS +1-510-655-8604" 
To: 
Cc: ; ; 
Sent: Sunday, April 18, 2010 4:56 PM
Subject: Re: [Elecraft] KPA500


> It's not a switcher.  As is common for linear power supplies (and not
> uncommon for switchers), there's an input voltage selector as part of
> the input power connector/fuse/switch combo.
>
> Since the power transformer is 15 of the 22 pounds weight, one of my
> thoughts was to ship that part (or an extra) ahead when traveling, and
> when I asked was told that currently it takes about 15 minutes to
> install, but that time might be cut.
>
> 73, doug
>
>   From: "Bob McGraw - K4TAX" 
>   Date: Sun, 18 Apr 2010 16:24:43 -0500
>
>   Any switching supply today and one that's  "worth it's salt" should 
> operate
>   satisfactorily from 100 VAC to 250 VAC.   So 120 VAC or 230VAC should 
> not be
>   of conern.
>
>   73
>   Bob, K4TAX
>
>
>   - Original Message - 
>   From: "Don Wilhelm" 
>   To: "David Ferrington, M0XDF" 
>   Cc: 
>   Sent: Friday, April 16, 2010 3:40 PM
>   Subject: Re: [Elecraft] KPA500
>
>   > David,
>   >
>   > Because not all have hamshacks that are wired for 220 volts.  If the
>   > space was not wired specifically for hamshack use, there is likely to 
> be
>   > only 120 volt receptacles available.   Up to 1000 watts draw (500 
> watts
>   > with 50% efficiency) on a normal 120 volt 15 amp circuit is practical,
>   > but attempting to run more than becomes marginal.
>   >
>   > 73,
>   > Don W3FPR
>   >
>   > David Ferrington, M0XDF wrote:
>   >> I'm intrigued, obviously we'd look for 220v over here, but why not 
> 120v
>   >> in US?
>   >> 73 de M0XDF, K3 #174
> 




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[Elecraft] Good photos of KPA500

2010-04-19 Thread Doug Faunt N6TQS +1-510-655-8604
Thanks to Bob, N6TV, there are some good quality photos of the KPA500
available here and ff.
http://picasaweb.google.com/lh/sredir?uname=rawilson&target=PHOTO&id=5461795475230448002&aid=5461794434122956513&authkey=Gv1sRgCIb8gL7YncDB2gE&feat=email

73, doug
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[Elecraft] SCAF-1

2010-04-19 Thread palindrome3993
Hi Don from Mike WB9GZL (K2 #4206). I don't always have the time to read the 
Elecraft email reflector each day, and I just stumbled across your 
week-old-or-so post looking to sell your SCAF-1. I would be interested if you 
still have it. Thanks Don, and thanks too for your contributions to the 
reflector. 73, Mike
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Re: [Elecraft] K3 as hand luggage

2010-04-19 Thread Andrew Faber
My experience with the K3 as hand luggage has been good.  I have been taking 
my K3 to and from Aruba for 2 1/2 years.  At SFO, about half the time I have 
to take it out of the backpack for it to be checked.  They then swab it 
briefly for explosives and usually run it through the x-ray machine again. 
This has never been a problem, other than causing a slight delay.  On Aruba, 
it's just gone through both their local search and the separate TSA search 
without causing any comment. I never take it out of the backpack to put in a 
separate bin.
73, andy, ae6y


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Re: [Elecraft] KPA500 AMP Frequency Coverage

2010-04-19 Thread Vic K2VCO
On 4/19/2010 7:46 AM, w3...@aol.com wrote:
> Hello all:
>
>   Perhaps I missed it in earlier discussions but can  anyone tell me
> what bands the KPA500 will cover?  I assume 160 is the low  end but will it
> cover 6 meters as well?  Thanks.  Chris Patterson  W3CMP

Yes, it covers 1.8 - 54 MHz.
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Re: [Elecraft] K3 as hand luggage

2010-04-19 Thread Lew Phelps K6LMP
I believe that TSA requires laptops, digital movie cameras, and "other large 
electronics items" to be removed from their carrying cases and placed in a 
separate bin to go through xray.  practices vary a little from airport to 
airport, but it certainly does not hurt to at least inform TSA what's in your 
hand luggage and ask them if it should be removed.  

No matter what, you can count on having the bag and radio take aside to be 
wiped down and tested for explosives. that has happened to me every time I have 
carried any ham radio through security, even a little 2-meter mobile unit.  if 
you check the radio, inform TSA what's in the bag when you hand it over to 
them.  This is not required but reduces hassles.

if you have any problems with an inspector, ask them to call a supervisor.


lew k6lmp


On Apr 19, 2010, at 5:42 AM, N2TK, Tony wrote:

> I have a wheeled carrier for my K3 and laptop. Take both out for the x-ray
> machine. No problems to date.
> Tony
> 
> -Original Message-
> From: elecraft-boun...@mailman.qth.net
> [mailto:elecraft-boun...@mailman.qth.net] On Behalf Of Felipe Ceglia - PY1NB
> Sent: Monday, April 19, 2010 8:25 AM
> To: elecraft@mailman.qth.net
> Subject: [Elecraft] K3 as hand luggage
> 
> Hi,
> 
> Is it ok to have a K3 inside hand luggage on US flights? Or can one have
> problems with TSA?
> 
> 73 TU,
> 
> Felipe - PY1NB
> 
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[Elecraft] KPA500 AMP Frequency Coverage

2010-04-19 Thread W3cmp
Hello all:
 
 Perhaps I missed it in earlier discussions but can  anyone tell me 
what bands the KPA500 will cover?  I assume 160 is the low  end but will it 
cover 6 meters as well?  Thanks.  Chris Patterson  W3CMP
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Re: [Elecraft] News from Visalia!

2010-04-19 Thread Paul Christensen
The 15 dB gain limitation made more sense when Part 97.317 included a 
companion restriction of requiring not less than 50-watts drive power to 
attain the amp's rated output power.  If a Part 95 user had the wherewithal 
to somehow modify a recently manufactured QRP-input type amp, 15 dB still 
places a 4W Part 95 transceiver at roughly 140-watts AM, 400W SSB (Part 
95.410).  Part 97.317(a)(3) already states: "no amplification (0 dB gain) 
between 26 MHz and 28 MHz."

I believe the gain restriction could be dispensed with, and the remaining 
sections of 97.317 kept intact -- and little detriment would occur.

As to HF amp kits requiring certification, I see no dispositive section in 
the CFR that affirmatively compels certification of a kit for use in Part 97 
service.  Section 97.315 clearly discusses "manufactured and imported" 
amplifiers -- kits are not specifically included in the rule.  However, 
there may be relevant case law on the matter that backs up the CFR -- and 
the FCC may have invoked internal policy decisions in the past, but someone 
could create an argument that if the FCC had wanted to compel certification 
of HF amp kits, they could have easily done so and that requirement should 
have been implemented as a matter of procedure under the APA.

The argument can be further bolstered under Part 97.315(a)(1) which states 
amplifier certification is not required if:  "...the amplifier is 
constructed or modified by an amateur radio operator for use at an amateur 
station."  Does the term "construction" mean home-brew only with parts 
secured on-hand and through multiple vendors?  Or, does construction also 
mean "in kit form," where the parts are consolidated for sale?  The question 
is then: how does one interpret the exact rule of law?

The "in kit form" term could have been easily defined and included in 
Sections 97.315 and 2.815, but it isn't.  If the government intends to 
prohibit something that's simple to read and interpret, they need to codify 
it in a rule and not leave it to guess work. Other means to get the FCC's 
position on the matter can take the form of form of a Declaratory Ruling or 
Advisory Opinion.

Paul, W9AC

- Original Message - 
From: "Jim Miller" 
To: "Elecraft Reflector" 
Sent: Monday, April 19, 2010 9:52 AM
Subject: Re: [Elecraft] News from Visalia!


> Is there some obvious reason why the FCC chose 15dB as the gain limit?
>
> 73
>
> jim ab3cv
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[Elecraft] OT: Don / Unidentified list posters

2010-04-19 Thread Chuck Guenther
Ken Kopp wrote:

"I've 'stewed' about the issue most 
of the night."

Me too, Ken.  Don helped me a lot when I was assembling my KX1 and K2.

The impatient K2 builder says he doesn't care at all about feelings; yet he 
also claims
to have an EET degree.  I taught for many years in a community college EET 
program.  
I fought many battles over curriculum issues in order to help ensure that 
students 
received more than just a technical education, and that we conferred degrees 
upon well
rounded individuals.  

This reflector, when all is said and done, is more about feelings than anything 
else.

73,
Chuck  NI0C 

  


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[Elecraft] OT: Need Help with Transistor Substitution ;-)

2010-04-19 Thread Don Rasmussen
2SC372Y and 2SK19GR
OR
NTE85 and NTE133 (same pair cross referenced to NTE

Into a common part that I could get at RF Parts?

These are old FT101 FET's and they might be common under some
newer name.

Thanks,
Don

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Re: [Elecraft] K1 LED backlight anode annotation

2010-04-19 Thread ki4bbl

Don,

You are indeed correct...thanks for enlightening me! 
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Re: [Elecraft] News from Visalia!

2010-04-19 Thread Monty Shultes
Jim -

I believe it was to make CB amps illegal and unprofitable.  Also,  Ham amps 
were not permitted to operate on 10 meters for the same reason - to make 
them unattractive to CB operators.
Monty  K2DLJ

> Is there some obvious reason why the FCC chose 15dB as the gain limit?
>
> 73
>
> jim ab3cv
 

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Re: [Elecraft] News from Visalia!

2010-04-19 Thread K5WA
While I don't have any desire for a KPA500, I am EXTREMELY happy that it is
in the pipeline because I can continue holding out hope that Elecraft's R&D
continues on a KPA1500...which is the one I can't wait to buy.  My pair of
Alpha 76CAs are getting long in the tooth and if the KPA500 sells like
hotcakes it will generate enough cash flow to fund completion of the KPA1500
project (I hope).

 

Bob K5WA

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Re: [Elecraft] News from Visalia!

2010-04-19 Thread Jim Miller
Is there some obvious reason why the FCC chose 15dB as the gain limit?

73

jim ab3cv
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Re: [Elecraft] News from Visalia!

2010-04-19 Thread Tom W8JI
I am building up such a linear amp 12w --> 200w on 2-30 MHz. 
If it
tests out well, I am thinking their may be a market for 
this.  I
understand that the FCC has to accept the unit, but I wonder 
if it is
only available as a kit if that applies?  This is a 28-volt
transistor so a 28 volt 20A supply is needed>>>

Kits and parts kits, even when incomplete, have to be 
certified. For some reason the FCC has allowed the CCI kits 
to slip by but even at Heathkit, once type acceptance came 
into play, things had to go past the FCC.

It's a big deal to do a certification filing. Just follow 
the rules outlined by the FCC. Gain limit is 15 dB, there 
are harmonic and spurious specs, and no amplification or 
easy modification for operation between 26-28 MHz.
 

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[Elecraft] OT: Don / Unidentified list posters

2010-04-19 Thread Ken Kopp
What a sad and angering situation to find when Rose and 
I checked into a motel on the way home from Visalia and 
logged on for our e-mail. I've "stewed" about the issue most 
of the night.

A post from Don, regardless of subject, was a -must- read.
There's almost always "learning" to be gleaned and I'm
envious of his knowledge.

There are several list posters who hide their identity unless
one goes to the message header, but I've never read them. 
They're deleted.  Don appears to have addressed the issue, 
as I've wanted to do, but never have.

This seems to be the proverbial case of "biting the hand 
that feeds", and now the food source is gone.  We're -all- 
the worse for it.

73! Ken Kopp - K0PP
 
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[Elecraft] Dayton Contest Dinner

2010-04-19 Thread Julius Fazekas n2wn

We have one seat left open at our table, so far we have: W5MX and wife,
WB8JUI, AB4GG, W4KRY, WF7T, UA3AGW, NP3D and N2WN... 

This happens Saturday night. If anyone would like to join us, please contact
me off list.

Hope to see a bunch of fellow Elecrafter's there, and think we'll be adding
one too!

73,
Julius
n2wn

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http://www.tnqp.org/

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Elecraft K3/100 #366
Elecraft K3#1875
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Re: [Elecraft] P3

2010-04-19 Thread lstavenhagen

So did anyone get any video or more info on the P3 over the weekend? 

Tnx es 73,
LS
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Re: [Elecraft] K3 as hand luggage

2010-04-19 Thread N2TK, Tony
I have a wheeled carrier for my K3 and laptop. Take both out for the x-ray
machine. No problems to date.
Tony

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To: elecraft@mailman.qth.net
Subject: [Elecraft] K3 as hand luggage

Hi,

Is it ok to have a K3 inside hand luggage on US flights? Or can one have
problems with TSA?

73 TU,

Felipe - PY1NB

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[Elecraft] K3 as hand luggage

2010-04-19 Thread Felipe Ceglia - PY1NB
Hi,

Is it ok to have a K3 inside hand luggage on US flights? Or can one have
problems with TSA?

73 TU,

Felipe - PY1NB

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Re: [Elecraft] Grounding negative side of power supply?

2010-04-19 Thread briana
I did a calculation of how many feet of heavy gauge wire would be 
required to do this grounding.
Glad it isn't necessary. 
For some stations one would be talking thousands of  feet of wire to tie 
all the RX antenna grounds to the mains ground.
One wants to keep the RX antennas well away from TX antennas

The cost of the wire would greatly exceed the cost of the equipment one 
is trying to protect..
It seems highly unlikely such lengths would keep all grounds at equal 
potential for a nearby lightning strike transient anyhow.

73 de Brian/K3KO


Tom W8JI wrote:

>This appears to be a question from January 20, 2010, so it 
>is a little late, but a person never wants to connect the 
>ground rod of the K9AY antenna or any other small or low 
>receiving antenna to the mains ground.
>
>First, it would kill the advantage of having the antenna. If 
>you are going to do that, don't bother installing the 
>antenna. It will hurt the antenna in more than one way.
>
>Second, it is not necessary for safety. It is not a large 
>tall structure and is not likely at all to be involved with 
>a direct lightning hit, and even if it were hit the ground 
>at the cable entrance to the house would provide all the 
>required protection.
>
>The shack ground and the antenna entrance ground should be 
>bonded to the mains, but the K9AY or any other low noise 
>receiving array must have an isolated ground. The cable 
>leaving the receiving antenna should be buried, should have 
>common mode isolation, and should be grounded at the house 
>entrance to a ground that is bonded to the mains ground.
>
>73 Tom
>
>
>- Original Message - 
>From: "Robert Mcgraw" 
>To: "Bill Coleman" 
>Cc: ; 
>Sent: Sunday, April 18, 2010 10:35 PM
>Subject: Re: [Elecraft] Grounding negative side of power 
>supply?
>
>
>Yes, do provide a driven ground for the K9AY receiving 
>antenna.  This is
>required for lightning protection.  AND be sure to bond this 
>ground to
>the AC mains ground for the house.  Failure to do this will 
>produce a
>voltage difference or step voltage between the two ground 
>during a nearby
>lightning strike.  The voltage difference can be enough to 
>damage or
>destroy the radio connected between the antenna and the AC 
>power.  AND,
>bonding of all grounds to a common point is a requirement of 
>the NEC.
>
>Remember, lighting has traveled through several thousand 
>feet of air.  A
>balun will offer little to no protection in this regard. 
>Now placing a
>choke balun or a 1:1 current balun at the feed point will 
>reduce common
>mode noise on the coax feed line.
>
>73
>Bob, K4TAX
>
>
>
>  
>
>>On Jan 20, 2010, at 11:47 PM, Richard S. Lindzen wrote:
>>
>>
>>
>>>Dear Don,
>>>
>>>This leaves me a bit concerned.  I am planning to put up 
>>>a K9AY
>>>receiving antenna in my backyard and it is supposed to be 
>>>connected
>>>to a ground rod.  I had never seen it suggested that this 
>>>must be
>>>connected to the utility ground stake.  I'm not even sure 
>>>where the
>>>utility ground stake is.  I've never noticed one though I 
>>>will ask my
>>>electrician.  If there is one, it is likely to be pretty 
>>>far from the
>>>K9AY.
>>>  
>>>
>>For the K9AY, your best bet is to make sure the antenna 
>>ground and the
>>coax ground are completely isolated. I do this by 
>>magnetically coupling
>>the coax with a 9:1 transformer. Otherwise, common-mode 
>>noise can move
>>out the shield and be picked up by the antenna.
>>
>>Bill Coleman, AA4LR, PP-ASELMail: aa...@arrl.net
>>Web: http://boringhamradiopart.blogspot.com
>>Quote: "Not within a thousand years will man ever fly!"
>>-- Wilbur Wright, 1901
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[Elecraft] K1-Something interesting about the inventory

2010-04-19 Thread ki4bbl

Ok, I can finally get to the site to comment...I did my inventory on the K1
when it arrived, but missed the filter board.  Elecraft promptly sent me a
new one (yea)  While waiting, I built part of the front panel but got to the
point in the build (lcd backlight) where I need to hook up to the filter
board, so I have to stop.  When I get the filter board, I go to start and
notice that I never received the filter bag.  Now, I would have inventoried
the filter bag, but I have no inventory for the filter bag in my manual in
Appendix A.  AArrrgghh, what am I missing...do they assemble the manuals
when they gather all the supplies and just left out the filter bag
inventory?  Anyways, I hope to get the filter bag and inventory sheet soon
this week.  I feel like an idiot with all of this nonsense.  

Thanks
Greg
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Re: [Elecraft] My feelings

2010-04-19 Thread Hector Padron
I will back you up 300% Alan.  
Don is a clear example of a gentleman,he is not only the most trustable source 
of information on Elecraft radios but also a decent business man,I had the 
chance once in the past to let him tune my K2 and he did a great job in a short 
time and with a decent affordable service  fees.
He also has my home doors for lunch or dinner opened at any time.
 
Hector
AD4C
 


"For a refined ham it is compulsory to own a k3"

--- On Mon, 4/19/10, Alan Price  wrote:


From: Alan Price 
Subject: [Elecraft] My feelings
To: "Elecraft" 
Date: Monday, April 19, 2010, 10:28 AM



Fellow Elecrafters:



Normally I don't enter into conversations like this one.  In this case I feel 
obligated.



I have known Don, through the reflector for many years.  He is probably the 
largest source of Elecraft knowledge on the reflector.  He is also a 
gentleman.  In the many years I have corresponded with him, he has be 
courteous, honest and more than helpful.  He is welcome in my home here in 
California for dinner on a moments notice.  I have nothing but respect for him.



73

Alan

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Re: [Elecraft] KPA500

2010-04-19 Thread Matt Palmer
Switching supply can do much better than 50% efficiency, I've designed
several for use in PA's that are close to 95% efficient. The
dominating inefficiency is usually in the PA


Matt
W8ESE
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[Elecraft] My feelings

2010-04-19 Thread Alan Price

Fellow Elecrafters:

 

Normally I don't enter into conversations like this one.  In this case I feel 
obligated.

 

I have known Don, through the reflector for many years.  He is probably the 
largest source of Elecraft knowledge on the reflector.  He is also a gentleman. 
 In the many years I have corresponded with him, he has be courteous, honest 
and more than helpful.  He is welcome in my home here in California for dinner 
on a moments notice.  I have nothing but respect for him.

 

73

Alan

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