Re: [Elecraft] IMac pro RFI

[David Ferrington, M0XDF]

As others have said, the iMac is at fault - take it back and ask for a 
replacement unit. At least if that does the same thing, you know it's a design 
fault and you may then have to figure out where the RF is coming from or more 
likley, how it's getting into the Mac.

As with Ron, when I had my old G4 it was (is) fine, but then for a few years, 
then I bought 2 mighty mouse (mice?), both acted in the same way as Ron's and 
acted as if the two side buttons where pressed, causing Expose to fly the 
windows of the side of the screen. Disabling that action on the side buttons 
resolved it.
This was with just a little Power and on SSB or CW. I wasn't happy with the 
workaround, I complained to Apple about it. They had no idea what I was talking 
about, but did agree to exchange them for a Logitech Wireless KB/Mouse combo 
(which I'm very happy with, but they don't manufacture now).

I now have a iMac 2.8 Ghz Intel Core 2 Duo with 24" screen for a couple of 
years, with the Logitech combo and no problems.

There is no excuse for a device failing due to low RFI (3W is low), might be 
excusable for 2kW, but at 3W, there is something wrong with the iMac or 
something getting the RF into it.
Have you removed the Ethernet connection too (assuming your using wired e/net)?

73 de M0XDF, K3 #174, P3 #108

-- 
When work is a pleasure, life is a joy! When work is a duty, life is
slavery. -Maxim Gorky, author (1868-1936)

On 24 Aug 2010, at 01:20, Mike Weir wrote:

> 
> Greetings
> My wife just purchased a new Imac desktop and with my KX1, K2 and K3 I am 
> causing her screen to jump all around. She has a laptop mac along side and it 
> is just fine as well as her Ipad. The antenna I have is a dipole in the attic 
> and the other antenna is the High Sierra sidekick in the backyard. The output 
> can go as low as 3 watts and it still gives her Mac grief. I have removed the 
> mouse and keyboard and it does the same thing. I have also put clamp on 
> chokes on the AC line. It seems that it is the Imac that is giving me the 
> trouble as my desktop in the next bedroom has no trouble what so ever at any 
> power I can deliver to the rigs. Any help would be appreciated. 
> 

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Re: [Elecraft] Elecraft [P3] Shipping Notice

[David Pratt]

I'll send you some with pleasure, David, if you want.  But why don't you 
build your XV144 while you're waiting?

73

David G4DMP/G3KEP
Leeds, UK

In a recent message, Rick Prather  wrote ...
>
>David,
>
>I'm really surprised that you haven't been able to pick up a couple of 
>those nuts locally.   They're pretty generic.
>
>Rick
>K6LE
>
>On 8/23/2010, at 11:29 , David Ferrington, M0XDF wrote:
>
>> That's really good. Since I'm still waiting for the missing nuts for 
>>the BNC connectors, I haven't been able to build my P3 yet. It's been 
>>here 2 weeks now :-(
>>
>> 73 de M0XDF, K3 #174, P3 #108
[...@p snipped]



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Re: [Elecraft] Elecraft [P3] Shipping Notice

[Rick Prather]

David,

I'm really surprised that you haven't been able to pick up a couple of those 
nuts locally.   They're pretty generic.

Rick
K6LE

On 8/23/2010, at 11:29 , David Ferrington, M0XDF wrote:

> That's really good. Since I'm still waiting for the missing nuts for the BNC 
> connectors, I haven't been able to build my P3 yet. It's been here 2 weeks 
> now :-(
> 
> 73 de M0XDF, K3 #174, P3 #108
> -- 
> A child, like your stomach, doesn't need all you can afford to give it.
> -Frank A. Clark, writer (1911- )
> 

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Re: [Elecraft] UK source for K3 headphone socket (was: Elecraft Digest, Vol 76, Issue 42)

[Ian White GM3SEK]

David Woolley (E.L) wrote:
>
>If you have to use a UK source, have you considered Rapid?  They are 
>more consumer purchase friendly than RS/Farnell, and they have not gone 
>the way of Maplin of becoming a high street boys' toys merchant.
>

Further information on a very wide range of UK component and tool 
suppliers is available at:
http://www.ifwtech.co.uk/g3sek/in-prac/components.htm

CPC are also worth a look for this particular item  because they have a 
vast range of stock including audio-visual items down to the component 
level . They used to be 'trade only' but are now a 
mainline consumer outlet advertising on TV, and with much larger stocks 
than Maplin.

(CPC's ready-made connecting leads are very good value and are available 
with a wide range of connectors at either end. I often buy extra-long 
leads at very little extra cost, and cut them in two.)

Farnell have by far the biggest stocks of RF-related parts and are also 
very easy to deal with. Amateurs can register for online shopping using 
the 'other' options on the drop-down lists, and receive the same good 
service as commercial customers 


Although Farnell and CPC are owned by the same company, they are two 
completely different operations, each with its own customer base, 
product range and catalogue. The same group also owns Newark in the USA, 
and the Farnell catalogue offers a pipeline into the Newark inventory as 
well (there is normally a surcharge, but watch out for special offers).

RS, on the other hand, have never been comfortable with private 
customers. It still isn't possible for a private individual to register 
without being forced to tell lies.



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73 from Ian GM3SEK
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Re: [Elecraft] Elecraft [P3] Shipping Notice

[David Ferrington, M0XDF]

That's really good. Since I'm still waiting for the missing nuts for the BNC 
connectors, I haven't been able to build my P3 yet. It's been here 2 weeks now 
:-(

73 de M0XDF, K3 #174, P3 #108
-- 
A child, like your stomach, doesn't need all you can afford to give it.
-Frank A. Clark, writer (1911- )

On 23 Aug 2010, at 23:22, Ken Chandler wrote:

> Hi Gang
> Olivia sent my P3  confirmation on the 19th August, UPS delivered it today 
> 23rd August, at 1800hrs.
> Read the manual, I started Assembly at 21:45 - finished the build  at 22:55.
> serial no: 249 is fully assembled.
> 
> Ken..G0ORH  K2, K3, P3.

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[Elecraft] Elecraft K3 Owners on Oahu, Hawaii

[Anna & Delwyn]

Aloha,

 

Are there any elecraft K3 owners on Oahu that's willing to share with me
your "noise level, hi" that is, let me listen to the radio, especially when
a plasma TV is on nearby.  I'm trying to determine if it will reduce Plasma
TV RFI more than my Icom 7600 does.  The plasma TV sits about 8 feet from my
radio and in tracing this horrible noise on 7.190 MHz, I found it was my TV.
My wife and son watches this TV when the Triple H Net comes on at 9:00 PM
HST (0700 UTC).

 

Mahalo and 73,

 

Delwyn KH6DC

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Re: [Elecraft] UK source for K3 headphone socket (was: Elecraft Digest, Vol 76, Issue 42)

[David Cutter]

You might also consider CPC in Preston

David
G3UNA

> Terry Burbidge wrote:
>>
>> Does anyone please have an RS/Farnell/Maplin part no for a replacement K3
>> front headphone socket?
> 
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Re: [Elecraft] USB - RS232

[WILLIS COOKE]

I purchased a USB Converter with my K3 #1025 also, but it is a Prolific chip 
set 
and will not work with N1MM or XMlog and Win 7 but works well with Elecraft 
software and Win 7 or Vista.
 Willis 'Cookie' Cooke 
K5EWJ 





From: Ken Kopp 
To: Chris Hembree ; elecraft@mailman.qth.net
Sent: Mon, August 23, 2010 10:20:24 PM
Subject: Re: [Elecraft] USB - RS232


Purchased mine from Elecraft with my K3.

73! Ken Kopp - K0PP
      K2 #56 65
      K3 #56
      P3 #56

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Re: [Elecraft] USB - RS232

[WILLIS COOKE]

I bought my FTDI converter from Array Solutions and I bought my PCIe RS232 card 
from Tiger Direct.  It would be great if Elecraft would guarantee a FTDI 
converter.  It is not required for the Elecraft program but sure would be 
helpful for the Visual Basic programs that conflict with the Prolific 
converters.
 Willis 'Cookie' Cooke 
K5EWJ 





From: Chris Hembree 
To: elecraft@mailman.qth.net
Sent: Mon, August 23, 2010 10:16:53 PM
Subject: [Elecraft] USB - RS232

Were are you guys buying your USB - RS232 adapters.

Thanks
Chris



      
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Re: [Elecraft] new P3 with K3 photos

[Craig D. Smith]

I Love the P3, Bob.  And, it will only get much better as the firmware
development continues and new hardware options are introduced.  If you are
getting a K3, go for the P3 for sure.

As far as K3 options, it would help a lot in terms of recommendations if you
can be a little more specific about your interests.  i.e. -  contesting /
DXing / ragchewing /  SWL;  SSB / CW /  digital modes;  your favorite bands.

73   Craig  AC0DS


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Re: [Elecraft] STUPID QUESTION

[WILLIS COOKE]

I don't know if I qualify as a "fat fingers" but Extra Large Gloves are a bit 
small on me.  The only trouble I have with the K3 is that I can't read the red 
print on the buttons in my normal shack lighting.  I upgraded from a TS-850 and 
did not have a lot of trouble.  I am still finding features that I don't know 
how to use, but that is because there are so many adjustments to accommodate 
all 
the preferences.  I certainly do not want the K3 to be bigger or heavier.  I 
like being able to put it in a brief case.  I do have a TS-480SAT on order 
because I can't figure out a good way to mount a K3 in my F-150, but that is a 
different story.
 Willis 'Cookie' Cooke 
K5EWJ 





From: Bob Peters 
To: elecraft 
Sent: Mon, August 23, 2010 6:12:23 PM
Subject: [Elecraft] STUPID QUESTION



In my considering to buy the K-3 I was told that guys with fat fingers have
trouble operating the radio due to its size. Comments from fat fingered
people please.



Very Best 73's

Bob Peters

W1PE



ARRL, QCWA, AM FOREVER



Money is only temporary, Radio is forever

>From The Old Dog


  
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Re: [Elecraft] STUPID QUESTION

[Mike Fatchett]

  No problems here.
W0MU

On 8/23/2010 10:02 PM, W0FK wrote:
> I have "big hands" (sounds better than "fat fingers"). No issues. The radio
> is well designed, with plenty of room to navigate the front panel.
>
> Lou, W0FK
>
>
> Bob Peters wrote:
>>
>>
>> In my considering to buy the K-3 I was told that guys with fat fingers
>> have
>> trouble operating the radio due to its size. Comments from fat fingered
>> people please.
>>
>>
>>
>> Very Best 73's
>>
>> Bob Peters
>>
>> W1PE
>>
>>
>>
>> ARRL, QCWA, AM FOREVER
>>
>>
>>
>> Money is only temporary, Radio is forever
>>
>> > From The Old Dog
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
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Re: [Elecraft] USB - RS232

[Jim Rhodes]

  Last time I bought any it was 2 Edgeports, 1x4 port & 1x8 port. I 
don't have to mess with a bunch of different adapters for different things.

Jim
On 8/23/2010 10:16 PM, Chris Hembree wrote:
> Were are you guys buying your USB - RS232 adapters.
>
> Thanks
> Chris
>
>
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Re: [Elecraft] USB - RS232

[Richard Dowling]

Sealevel, have had very good service, no driver install problems, 
bullet proof operation.

http://www.sealevel.com/store/serial/asynchronous-serial/usb/2105r-usb-to-1-port-rs-232-db9-serial-interface-adapter.html

Richard
KL0DR


At 19 16 2010-08-23, Chris Hembree wrote:
>Were are you guys buying your USB - RS232 adapters.
>
>Thanks
>Chris
>
>
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Re: [Elecraft] STUPID QUESTION

[W0FK]

I have "big hands" (sounds better than "fat fingers"). No issues. The radio
is well designed, with plenty of room to navigate the front panel. 

Lou, W0FK


Bob Peters wrote:
> 
>  
> 
> In my considering to buy the K-3 I was told that guys with fat fingers
> have
> trouble operating the radio due to its size. Comments from fat fingered
> people please.
> 
>  
> 
> Very Best 73's
> 
> Bob Peters
> 
> W1PE
> 
>  
> 
> ARRL, QCWA, AM FOREVER
> 
>  
> 
> Money is only temporary, Radio is forever
> 
>>From The Old Dog
> 
>  
> 
>  
> 
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[Elecraft] P3 problem

[van fair]

I am having a problem with the P3. occasionally after a transmission and the 
PTT or VOX is released,  The P3 screen will remain frozen and look  just as it 
does  during a transmission.  This is not the problem related to the firmware 
that was fixed in version .30. 

We have confirmed that the problem is not related to RFI as it occurs when no 
RF is produced in the test mode. It happens on average about 3 to 4 times per 
hour in a long ragchew. The only way to correct it is to reboot. 

If you have seen this happen on your P3 please let me know with details. I am 
working with Allen to try to resolve it.  Thanks Van W4GIW
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Re: [Elecraft] USB - RS232

[Allen Wisbey, W1SBY]

  I am using a 232USB9M-LS device from B&B Electronics 
.
 
It is a locked serial number type device, which means that once set up 
it makes no difference  what USB port you plug it into, it will ALWAYS 
be whatever port number you assigned to it. At $69 plus shipping it is 
more expensive, but it is nice to know that it work the same every time 
and not cause the frustration of trying to figure out what comm port was 
assigned every time you plug in.

73 de Allen, W1SBY


On 8/23/2010 10:16 PM, Chris Hembree wrote:
> Were are you guys buying your USB - RS232 adapters.
>
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Re: [Elecraft] USB - RS232

[Ken Kopp]

Purchased mine from Elecraft with my K3.

73! Ken Kopp - K0PP
   K2 #56 65
   K3 #56
   P3 #56

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[Elecraft] P3 Utility Installed Successfuly

[John E. Reiser]

Hello Elecrafters,

Thanks to all who helped solve my difficulty with installing the P3 Utility.  
The overwhelming consensus was that Norton 360 was being overly protective.  
The solution to my problem was therefore to turn off the so called "SONAR" 
advanced protection temporarily while doing the P3 Utility install.

What had me stumped was that in all the years that I have used Norton, it had 
never gotten in the way of an install, including that of the latest version of 
the K3 Utility.  This was the first time Norton has given me any problems.

The only explanation I can think of for this is that Norton might have recently 
added that troublesome "SONAR" module.  I know that Norton does update itself 
in the background.  From now on, I will know to turn off "SONAR" before doing 
installs, which is easily done.

I had an extremely full schedule today, so I was unable to read your responses 
to my query until now.  Also, I see that Eric has ended this thread, so please 
don't respond to this note.  My purpose in posting it was merely to let you all 
know that the problem is no more.

73,

John, W2GW 
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[Elecraft] USB - RS232

[Chris Hembree]

Were are you guys buying your USB - RS232 adapters.

Thanks
Chris



  
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Re: [Elecraft] IMac pro RFI

[Jim Brown]

>Returning the computer for a refund seems a bit rash to me...the real 
>problem I would think, is that there is some amount of RF at your wife's 
>computing position coming from somewhere, 

NO, it is NOT harsh. She bought a computer, not a radio receiver, and it 
should not act as a radio receiver. If it does, IT IS DEFECTIVE, either in 
construction, or design, or both. Giving a manufacturer a pass for lousy 
RFI design perpetuates the myth that it's somehow "overload." IT IS NOT. 
IT IS POOR DESIGN. Never let a manufacturer make their problem your 
problem. 

BTW -- if you doubt me, check out the FCC website. Their official position 
is that ALL interference experienced by NON-RADIO equipment is the fault 
of the victim equipment. Period. And as Chair of the Technical Committee 
on RFI of the Audio Engineering Society, I can say that that position is 
entirely correct from an engineering point of view. 

My RFI tutorial goes though most of the poor design, and outlines fixes 
for some of them. 

73, Jim Brown K9YC


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Re: [Elecraft] IMac pro RFI

[Ramon Tristani]

I have an iMac and a Macbook, both operating within 6 feet of the K3 which 
drives a 5BTV vertical in my backyard. I run the full 100 watts without any RFI 
to my Macs. Guess you may have a defective iMac that should be returned for 
exchange or refund. My iMac is connected to the same AC circuit as the K3 with 
no special or separate ground for the K3.

73s,
Ramon, KP4GE


On Aug 23, 2010, at 9:19 PM, Jim Brown wrote:

> On Mon, 23 Aug 2010 20:20:27 -0400, Mike Weir wrote:
> 
>> My wife just purchased a new Imac desktop and with my KX1, K2 and K3 I am 
>> causing her screen to jump all around. 
> 
> If just purchased, take it back and tell them to fix it or refund your 
> money. There is NO EXCUSE for RFI to a computer, and at 3 watts from an 
> antenna some distance from the computer it's a REAL RFI DOG!  
> 
> FWIW, RFI TO computers is fairly rare, except for sound cards, nearly all 
> of which have pin 1 problems. 
> 
> There's a detailed RFI tutorial at http://audiosystemsgroup.com/RFI-Ham.pdf
> 
> This forum is not the best place for RFI help -- but there is a very good 
> RFI reflector at contesting.com.
> 
> 73, Jim Brown K9YC
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Re: [Elecraft] IMac pro RFI

[Ron D'Eau Claire]

There's something seriously wrong with that machine's RFI sensitivity..

I've used several computers - desktop and notebook alike - within three feet
of the end of my 130 foot wire with no sign of RFI whatsoever at 100 watts.
The RF voltage is sufficient that I leave a burned out CFL sitting on the
desk that lights up whenever I hit the key. 

These are all Windows machines, but the OS should not be an issue.

Of course the store is likely to try to convince you it's the environment at
home that's at fault. Be sure to point out the other machines that are NOT
affected. No better rebuttal than that. 

73,  

Ron AC7AC

> 
> Greetings
> My wife just purchased a new Imac desktop and with my KX1, K2 and K3 I am
causing her screen to jump all around. She has a laptop mac along side and
it is just fine as well as her Ipad. The antenna I have is a dipole in the
attic and the other antenna is the High Sierra sidekick in the backyard. The
output can go as low as 3 watts and it still gives her Mac grief. I have
removed the mouse and keyboard and it does the same thing. I have also put
clamp on chokes on the AC line. It seems that it is the Imac that is giving
me the trouble as my desktop in the next bedroom has no trouble what so ever
at any power I can deliver to the rigs. Any help would be appreciated. 
> Mike
> VE3WDM

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Re: [Elecraft] IMac pro RFI

[Craig D. Smith]

Make sure you pay attention to any sound system you may have hooked up to
it.  I was causing RFI to my wife's Imac with 100 W with the antennas about
40-50 ft away from it.  No RFI at all on my Dell machine right next to the
rig and 10 ft from the antennas.  Spent considerable time with ferrites, but
got it quiet now.  It's been quite awhile, but as I recall the biggest
contributor was the external speakers and sub-woofer she had attached.  They
were routing RF back into the computer.  Make sure you filter those kinds of
leads as well as the keyboard, modems, etc.  K9YC's site is the place to
look for "how to" info.

Bottom line here was that the Imac was more susceptible than any Windows box
I've had, but still could be quieted down. Too bad, as otherwise it is a
very nice computer.

73   Craig  AC0DS



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[Elecraft] Re. KAT3 auto tuner

[Jack West]

I am so pleased with the KAT3 auto tuner in the K3. It tunes super fast.
It displays just for an instant the starting SWR Ratio and then the tuned
SWR as it fiinishes. It matches a much greater SWR that other auto
tuners. It even works well on Six meters. My Kenwood auto tunrer 
would match SWR up to 3:1 max, but required a lot of hunting to do that. 

I recommend the KAT3 Auto tuner additon to all K3 owners. It is first class!
You will love it. (K3 Ser 4493)
73 de
Jack / W7LD / "Lucky Dog"
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Re: [Elecraft] IMac pro RFI

[David Herring]

Mike,

Anything else connected to the iMac?  You ruled out the keyboard and mouse, 
which is good...I have an iMac had the same problem and discovered it was my 
'mighty mouse' that was the culprit -- seems the mighty mouse is a rather 
effective antenna!  Once I replaced the mouse with a generic mouse, I've never 
had another problem.  My iMac is within 2 feet of the rig and it's cabling.

If you can make her screen dance with as low as 3 watts, I can only guess you 
must have an unsuspecting radiator really close to the iMac?  I needed 40 - 50 
watts to excite my mighty mouse!  Have you traced all wires in proximity to the 
iMac back to see if they come in close to feed lines, ground lines, or the rigs 
themselves?

What kind of balun do you use?  Is it a current balun?  Would help to reduce 
common mode currents on your feed line. 

Returning the computer for a refund seems a bit rash to me...the real problem I 
would think, is that there is some amount of RF at your wife's computing 
position coming from somewhere, so unless you're trying to fry her (hi hi), 
that really does need to be worked out despite there being other computers 
unaffected by it.

Good luck!

73,
Dave
AH6TD


On Aug 23, 2010, at 2:20 PM, Mike Weir wrote:

> 
> Greetings
> My wife just purchased a new Imac desktop and with my KX1, K2 and K3 I am 
> causing her screen to jump all around. She has a laptop mac along side and it 
> is just fine as well as her Ipad. The antenna I have is a dipole in the attic 
> and the other antenna is the High Sierra sidekick in the backyard. The output 
> can go as low as 3 watts and it still gives her Mac grief. I have removed the 
> mouse and keyboard and it does the same thing. I have also put clamp on 
> chokes on the AC line. It seems that it is the Imac that is giving me the 
> trouble as my desktop in the next bedroom has no trouble what so ever at any 
> power I can deliver to the rigs. Any help would be appreciated. 
> Mike
> VE3WDM
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Re: [Elecraft] IMac pro RFI

[Jim Brown]

On Mon, 23 Aug 2010 20:20:27 -0400, Mike Weir wrote:

>My wife just purchased a new Imac desktop and with my KX1, K2 and K3 I am 
>causing her screen to jump all around. 

If just purchased, take it back and tell them to fix it or refund your 
money. There is NO EXCUSE for RFI to a computer, and at 3 watts from an 
antenna some distance from the computer it's a REAL RFI DOG!  

FWIW, RFI TO computers is fairly rare, except for sound cards, nearly all 
of which have pin 1 problems. 

There's a detailed RFI tutorial at http://audiosystemsgroup.com/RFI-Ham.pdf

This forum is not the best place for RFI help -- but there is a very good 
RFI reflector at contesting.com.

73, Jim Brown K9YC


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Re: [Elecraft] Externmal ATU

[Don Wilhelm]

Bill,

I would assume that you have the LDG interface cable for the Icom.  
Unfortunately, LDG does not make a similar cable for the Elecraft K3.

You could go to a lot of trouble and reverse engineer the LDG cables and 
then adapt them to the K3, but for the time and effort involved, it 
might be more economical to just spring for the KAT3 - it depends on how 
much you value your time and effort.  Yes, creating your own custom K3 
to LDG cable may be a fun exercise, it may or may not be economically 
feasible depending on the value you place on your time and effort.

73,
Don W3FPR

Bill Conkling wrote:
> I have a nice new K3/100.  I am not ready to add the ATU yet.  But I have
> both an LDG AT11mp and an ICOM AH-4 (in the car).  Has anyone figured how to
> interface one of these tuners to the K3 so that it works off the ATU button,
> just as they do with my ICOM-706MKiig?
>
>  
>
> Currently I'm using the LDG on the table with the radio, HOLD the TUNE
> button, hit the LDG Tune button and adjust as necessary.  Release the K3
> TUNE button.  It works well enough, but it sure would be nice to just TAP
> the ATU button.  I'm thinking of taking it on a trip this weekend, and would
> like to use the AH4 with my mobile antenna.  The required signals are
> probably on a plug on the RF board, just waiting for a connector and cable.
>
>  
>
> Thanks
>
>  
>
> bc   nr4c
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Re: [Elecraft] IMac pro RFI

[george fritkin]

This kind of problem is either real simple to solve or real difficult there is 
no in between.  I know that is not very technical, but it sometimes it is the 
nature or RFI.
  If you try any fixes, do them one at a time.  This way we will know which one 
works.  It is strange that all three radio do the same thing.  If you have no 
UPS, how about battery powering the K1 or the other radios and see if the 
problem is still there.  Again, we are trying to see if it a radiated or 
conducted problem.   
I am assuming that the radios and the computers do not share the same ac power 
circuit.  If I am wrong separate them
Good Luck  [you are going to need it!!]
George




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From: VE3WDM 
Subject: Re: [Elecraft] IMac pro RFI
To: 
Date: Monday, August 23, 2010, 5:35 PM


Hi George Sorry no ups here but I really should pick one up just in case of
an outage. Any other step. 
 
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Re: [Elecraft] KXV3A need RXA mod?

[Lyle Johnson]

  The KXV3A needs no modification.

73,

Lyle KK7P
> I tried looking at the schematic to see if the KXV3A had the RXA mod but
> I could not find the appropriate schematic.

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[Elecraft] THANKS ALL

[Bob Peters]

 

Boy did I get answers on the STUPID.Thanks lots of info to digest. You guys
are great to get answers from.

 

Bob W1PE

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Re: [Elecraft] KXV3A need RXA mod?

[Rajiv Dewan, N2RD]

  It does make sense to leave it out.

I tried looking at the schematic to see if the KXV3A had the RXA mod but 
I could not find the appropriate schematic.

Thanks,
Raj, N2RD


On 8/24/2010 12:23 AM, Don Wilhelm wrote:
> Raj,
>
> I don't know why the RXA mod kit is being shipped with the KXV3A.  The 
> website says this mod has been incorporated in all K3s since January 
> 2008.  Yes, I would assume that it is already included with your 
> KXV3A.  You might want to wait for a more authoritative answer, I am 
> only going by the information on the website.
>
> In the absence of explicit instructions to add it, I would leave it out.
>
> 73,
> Don W3FPR
>
> Rajiv Dewan, N2RD wrote:
>>   I have been updating my K3 #170 with the past mods to bring it 
>> uptodate.  I replaced the KXV3 option with newer KXV3A.  In my update 
>> packet, I also received RXA mod kit.  Am I correct in assuming that I 
>> do NOT need this mod kit?
>>
>> Raj
>>
>


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Re: [Elecraft] IMac pro RFI

[VE3WDM]

Hi George Sorry no ups here but I really should pick one up just in case of
an outage. Any other step. 
 
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Re: [Elecraft] IMac pro RFI

[george fritkin]

Mike, all bands, any bands?  SSB and CW?  If you have a UPS, pug IMAC into it 
without plugging UPS into AC.  We have to find out if it is radiated or 
conducted RFI.  
And thanks for the info, we also have macbook pros and ipads here with no 
problems at 1500 watts pep.  I was going to buy a new imac desktop, but I am 
holding off now
73
George


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From: Mike Weir 
Subject: [Elecraft] IMac pro RFI
To:
Date: Monday, August 23, 2010, 5:20 PM


Greetings
My wife just purchased a new Imac desktop and with my KX1, K2 and K3 I am 
causing her screen to jump all around. She has a laptop mac along side and it 
is just fine as well as her Ipad. The antenna I have is a dipole in the attic 
and the other antenna is the High Sierra sidekick in the backyard. The output 
can go as low as 3 watts and it still gives her Mac grief. I have removed the 
mouse and keyboard and it does the same thing. I have also put clamp on chokes 
on the AC line. It seems that it is the Imac that is giving me the trouble as 
my desktop in the next bedroom has no trouble what so ever at any power I can 
deliver to the rigs. Any help would be appreciated. 
Mike
VE3WDM
               
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Re: [Elecraft] KXV3A need RXA mod?

[Don Wilhelm]

Raj,

I don't know why the RXA mod kit is being shipped with the KXV3A.  The 
website says this mod has been incorporated in all K3s since January 
2008.  Yes, I would assume that it is already included with your KXV3A.  
You might want to wait for a more authoritative answer, I am only going 
by the information on the website.

In the absence of explicit instructions to add it, I would leave it out.

73,
Don W3FPR

Rajiv Dewan, N2RD wrote:
>   I have been updating my K3 #170 with the past mods to bring it 
> uptodate.  I replaced the KXV3 option with newer KXV3A.  In my update 
> packet, I also received RXA mod kit.  Am I correct in assuming that I do 
> NOT need this mod kit?
>
> Raj
>
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[Elecraft] IMac pro RFI

[Mike Weir]

Greetings
My wife just purchased a new Imac desktop and with my KX1, K2 and K3 I am 
causing her screen to jump all around. She has a laptop mac along side and it 
is just fine as well as her Ipad. The antenna I have is a dipole in the attic 
and the other antenna is the High Sierra sidekick in the backyard. The output 
can go as low as 3 watts and it still gives her Mac grief. I have removed the 
mouse and keyboard and it does the same thing. I have also put clamp on chokes 
on the AC line. It seems that it is the Imac that is giving me the trouble as 
my desktop in the next bedroom has no trouble what so ever at any power I can 
deliver to the rigs. Any help would be appreciated. 
Mike
VE3WDM
  
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Re: [Elecraft] STUPID QUESTION

[george fritkin]

You want poor ergonomics try the FT-2000.  The FT-2000 has 2 receivers. Main 
VFO is to the LEFT of the sub VFO.  However the concentric AF/RF controls for 
each receiver are oriented as follows.The main RX is to the RIGHT of the 
sub RX
Enjoy your wonderful K3 guys
George, W6GF







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From: Don Wilhelm 
Subject: Re: [Elecraft] STUPID QUESTION
To: "Bob Peters" 
Cc: 
Date: Monday, August 23, 2010, 5:07 PM

Bob,

If the "fat finger" problem is the same as the excuse for typing errors, 
then I agree - it should be interpreted as operator error, and has 
nothing to do with the K3 ergonomics.

The buttons are spaced greater than 9/16 inches apart both horizontally 
and vertically, and that is only 1/16 inch tighter than the standard 
keyboard I am typing on right now.

Fingers would have to be really "FAT" (and flat on the tips) for the K3 
buttons to be a problem.  Many radios use an even closer button spacing 
than the K3.

One of the old "rules of thumb" that I remember from the "good old days" 
when doing homebrew panel layouts is that pushbuttons should be spaced 
at 1/2 inch or greater, and secondary knobs (the small ones) should be 
placed no closer than 1 inch apart  - the K3 button and control spacing 
is greater than those old suggested minimums.

Yes, the K3 front panel is not huge (intentionally so), and some hams 
just like BIG radio panels.  You might want to ask the person who gave 
you that opinion if he ever operated a K3 - I would tend to believe that 
he has not.  We have heard of many converts to the K3 after guest 
operators have actually operated with one.

73,
Don W3FPR

Bob Peters wrote:
>  
>
> In my considering to buy the K-3 I was told that guys with fat fingers have
> trouble operating the radio due to its size. Comments from fat fingered
> people please.
>
>  
>
> Very Best 73's
>
> Bob Peters
>
> W1PE
>   
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[Elecraft] KXV3A need RXA mod?

[Rajiv Dewan, N2RD]

  I have been updating my K3 #170 with the past mods to bring it 
uptodate.  I replaced the KXV3 option with newer KXV3A.  In my update 
packet, I also received RXA mod kit.  Am I correct in assuming that I do 
NOT need this mod kit?

Raj

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Re: [Elecraft] STUPID QUESTION

[Don Wilhelm]

Bob,

If the "fat finger" problem is the same as the excuse for typing errors, 
then I agree - it should be interpreted as operator error, and has 
nothing to do with the K3 ergonomics.

The buttons are spaced greater than 9/16 inches apart both horizontally 
and vertically, and that is only 1/16 inch tighter than the standard 
keyboard I am typing on right now.

Fingers would have to be really "FAT" (and flat on the tips) for the K3 
buttons to be a problem.  Many radios use an even closer button spacing 
than the K3.

One of the old "rules of thumb" that I remember from the "good old days" 
when doing homebrew panel layouts is that pushbuttons should be spaced 
at 1/2 inch or greater, and secondary knobs (the small ones) should be 
placed no closer than 1 inch apart  - the K3 button and control spacing 
is greater than those old suggested minimums.

Yes, the K3 front panel is not huge (intentionally so), and some hams 
just like BIG radio panels.  You might want to ask the person who gave 
you that opinion if he ever operated a K3 - I would tend to believe that 
he has not.  We have heard of many converts to the K3 after guest 
operators have actually operated with one.

73,
Don W3FPR

Bob Peters wrote:
>  
>
> In my considering to buy the K-3 I was told that guys with fat fingers have
> trouble operating the radio due to its size. Comments from fat fingered
> people please.
>
>  
>
> Very Best 73's
>
> Bob Peters
>
> W1PE
>   
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[Elecraft] Fwd: Re: Power supply voltage

[David Gilbert]

I meant since January 2009 ...

Dave   AB7E



 Original Message 
Subject:Re: [Elecraft] Power supply voltage
Date:   Mon, 23 Aug 2010 17:04:29 -0700
From:   David Gilbert 
To: elecraft@mailman.qth.net




The K3 is rated for use up to 15 volts DC, and I regularly run mine at 
14.5 volts for better transmit linearity.  I've had it since January of 
2008 and it has been through several pretty intensive contest operations 
since then without a single glitch.

73,
Dave   AB7E


> On 8/23/2010 7:13 PM, George A. Thornton wrote:
>> I am about to put together a backup power supply system.  I have AGM
>> cell batteries and will be using a West Mountain PowerGate P40s and an
>> Astron RM35 power supply.
>>
>>
>>
>> The West Mountain literature recommends that I boost the power supply
>> voltage to 14.5 volts in order to assure proper battery charging for the
>> AGM batteries.
>>
>>
>>
>> What will 14.5 volts do to the K3?  Am I risking something here, or is
>> there no problem with this setup?
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Re: [Elecraft] Power supply voltage

[David Gilbert]

The K3 is rated for use up to 15 volts DC, and I regularly run mine at 
14.5 volts for better transmit linearity.  I've had it since January of 
2008 and it has been through several pretty intensive contest operations 
since then without a single glitch.

73,
Dave   AB7E


> On 8/23/2010 7:13 PM, George A. Thornton wrote:
>> I am about to put together a backup power supply system.  I have AGM
>> cell batteries and will be using a West Mountain PowerGate P40s and an
>> Astron RM35 power supply.
>>
>>
>>
>> The West Mountain literature recommends that I boost the power supply
>> voltage to 14.5 volts in order to assure proper battery charging for the
>> AGM batteries.
>>
>>
>>
>> What will 14.5 volts do to the K3?  Am I risking something here, or is
>> there no problem with this setup?
>>
>> _
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Re: [Elecraft] Elecraft SSB Net results (8-22-10)

[Phil and Christina]

Sorry Brenden,

For some reason, I thought that you were portable W6.  My apologies.  I
guess that I have gotten too used to poor propagation and filled in the
blank incorrectly.  You had a great signal well off the front of my quad.

73,

Phil, NS7P

-Original Message-
From: elecraft-boun...@mailman.qth.net
[mailto:elecraft-boun...@mailman.qth.net]on Behalf Of Brendan Minish
Sent: Monday, August 23, 2010 4:13 PM
To: Phil and Christina
Cc: Elecraft
Subject: Re: [Elecraft] Elecraft SSB Net results (8-22-10)


On Sun, 2010-08-22 at 16:19 -0700, Phil and Christina wrote:

> EI6IZ Brenden CA  K3  39

West coast of Ireland actually!


--
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Brendan EI6IZ

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Re: [Elecraft] Power supply voltage

[Bob]

Hi George,

  If you are concerned a silicon diode of appropriate 
current rating in the power lead will give a pretty constant .6-.7 volt 
drop and you will be right back to the nominal desired voltage.

73,
Bob
K2TK

On 8/23/2010 7:13 PM, George A. Thornton wrote:
> I am about to put together a backup power supply system.  I have AGM
> cell batteries and will be using a West Mountain PowerGate P40s and an
> Astron RM35 power supply.
>
>
>
> The West Mountain literature recommends that I boost the power supply
> voltage to 14.5 volts in order to assure proper battery charging for the
> AGM batteries.
>
>
>
> What will 14.5 volts do to the K3?  Am I risking something here, or is
> there no problem with this setup?
>
> _
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[Elecraft] Externmal ATU

[Bill Conkling]

I have a nice new K3/100.  I am not ready to add the ATU yet.  But I have
both an LDG AT11mp and an ICOM AH-4 (in the car).  Has anyone figured how to
interface one of these tuners to the K3 so that it works off the ATU button,
just as they do with my ICOM-706MKiig?

 

Currently I'm using the LDG on the table with the radio, HOLD the TUNE
button, hit the LDG Tune button and adjust as necessary.  Release the K3
TUNE button.  It works well enough, but it sure would be nice to just TAP
the ATU button.  I'm thinking of taking it on a trip this weekend, and would
like to use the AH4 with my mobile antenna.  The required signals are
probably on a plug on the RF board, just waiting for a connector and cable.

 

Thanks

 

bc   nr4c

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Re: [Elecraft] STUPID QUESTION

[David Gilbert]

I've never understood that criticism of the K3 as it simply doesn't hold 
up to the facts.   I have my old 756Pro and my K3 both sitting on the 
desk in front of me as I write this and I can assure you that the 
buttons (and half of the knobs) on the Icom are smaller and spaced more 
closely together than those on the K3.   It isn't even close. Make your 
own scale printouts of the front panel pictures of the two rigs and 
you'll see what I mean.

Whoever told you that did so out of ignorance.

Dave   AB7E




On 8/23/2010 4:12 PM, Bob Peters wrote:
>
>
> In my considering to buy the K-3 I was told that guys with fat fingers have
> trouble operating the radio due to its size. Comments from fat fingered
> people please.
>
>
>
> Very Best 73's
>
> Bob Peters
>
> W1PE
>
>
>
> ARRL, QCWA, AM FOREVER
>
>
>
> Money is only temporary, Radio is forever
>
> > From The Old Dog
>
>
>
>
>
>
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[Elecraft] Power supply voltage

[George A. Thornton]

I am about to put together a backup power supply system.  I have AGM
cell batteries and will be using a West Mountain PowerGate P40s and an
Astron RM35 power supply.

 

The West Mountain literature recommends that I boost the power supply
voltage to 14.5 volts in order to assure proper battery charging for the
AGM batteries.  

 

What will 14.5 volts do to the K3?  Am I risking something here, or is
there no problem with this setup?

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Re: [Elecraft] Elecraft SSB Net results (8-22-10)

[Brendan Minish]

On Sun, 2010-08-22 at 16:19 -0700, Phil and Christina wrote:

> EI6IZ Brenden CA  K3  39

West coast of Ireland actually!


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Brendan EI6IZ 

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[Elecraft] STUPID QUESTION

[Bob Peters]

 

In my considering to buy the K-3 I was told that guys with fat fingers have
trouble operating the radio due to its size. Comments from fat fingered
people please.

 

Very Best 73's

Bob Peters

W1PE

 

ARRL, QCWA, AM FOREVER

 

Money is only temporary, Radio is forever

>From The Old Dog

 

 

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Re: [Elecraft] Strange behaviour of K144XV :-((

[Olli]

One addition:
The s-meter also shows S5-6 level without a signal source (in all cases: no 
antenna, dummyload or antenna connected), while all other bands are okay with 
no 
s-meter movement without a signal.


- Original Message - 
From: "Oliver "Olli" Dröse" 
To: 
Sent: Tuesday, August 24, 2010 1:00 AM
Subject: Strange behaviour of K144XV :-((


> Hi guys,
>
> after getting the missing cables today (thanks Elecraft) I immediately 
> started 
> installing the K144XV into my K3. Everything went together smoothly, no 
> problems, at least hardware-wise.
>
> But, I have hundreds of birdies throughout the whole 2 m band. :-(( It does 
> not matter if antenna connected or not, or connected to a dummyload, so I 
> suspect these are internally and some of them are really annoying. Already 
> checked all the TMP cable connections, everything seems okay.
>
> Furthermore when switching down to 28 MHz I now have strange noise when 
> tuning 
> the VFO between 28.002 and 28.007 sounding like synthesizer noise which was 
> definitely not there before. :-((
>
> Any ideas what the reasons are and how to solve the problem(s)?
>
> As I do not have the KRX3 module I tried to put the 12 V wire going to the 
> other side of the mainboard to power the K144XV like shown in the manual but 
> as the wire is so long it is laying on the mainboard. Could that be the 
> reason, some pickup there?
>
> Thanks in advance!
>
> 73, Olli - DH8BQA
>
>
>
> 

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[Elecraft] Strange behaviour of K144XV :-((

[Olli]

Hi guys,

after getting the missing cables today (thanks Elecraft) I immediately started 
installing the K144XV into my K3. Everything went together smoothly, no 
problems, at least hardware-wise.

But, I have hundreds of birdies throughout the whole 2 m band. :-(( It does not 
matter if antenna connected or not, or connected to a dummyload, so I suspect 
these are internally and some of them are really annoying. Already checked all 
the TMP cable connections, everything seems okay.

Furthermore when switching down to 28 MHz I now have strange noise when tuning 
the VFO between 28.002 and 28.007 sounding like synthesizer noise which was 
definitely not there before. :-((

Any ideas what the reasons are and how to solve the problem(s)?

As I do not have the KRX3 module I tried to put the 12 V wire going to the 
other 
side of the mainboard to power the K144XV like shown in the manual but as the 
wire is so long it is laying on the mainboard. Could that be the reason, some 
pickup there?

Thanks in advance!

73, Olli - DH8BQA




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Re: [Elecraft] Elecraft [P3] Shipping Notice

[Ken Chandler]

Hi Gang
Olivia sent my P3  confirmation on the 19th August, UPS delivered it today 23rd 
August, at 1800hrs.
Read the manual, I started Assembly at 21:45 - finished the build  at 22:55.
serial no: 249 is fully assembled.

Ken..G0ORH  K2, K3, P3.

Sent from my iPhone

 


On 23 Aug 2010, at 21:42, K4SC  wrote:

> 
> I received my P3 Order Confirmation today.  My order date was 7/17.  Says it
> should ship in 7 to 10 business days.  Yippee Skippee 
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[Elecraft] UK source for K3 headphone socket (was: Elecraft Digest, Vol 76, Issue 42)

[David Woolley (E.L)]

Terry Burbidge wrote:
> 
> Does anyone please have an RS/Farnell/Maplin part no for a replacement K3
> front headphone socket?

Maplin will only have one choice that is even vaguely like it, so 
getting the Maplin number for the only candidate should be easy.

Have you asked Elecraft to quote?  They may well come out cheaper when 
you consider the small order charges for Farnell and RS.  I imagine they 
will send something like that, in a small jiffy bag, using the normal 
postal service.

If you have to use a UK source, have you considered Rapid?  They are 
more consumer purchase friendly than RS/Farnell, and they have not gone 
the way of Maplin of becoming a high street boys' toys merchant.

By the way, you have replied to the digest as a whole, and you have used 
a reply to start a new thread.


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[Elecraft] MFJ 949E

[W2bpi1]

I have received the info I needed. Thanks Gary for all the  pictures.   
Geo/W2BPI
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Re: [Elecraft] (P3) Feature request Span frequency display

[Brett Howard]

This is also on the list to be implemented... Stay tuned...

~Brett (N7MG)

On Mon, Aug 23, 2010 at 12:52 PM, Jim Brown  wrote:
> On Sun, 22 Aug 2010 11:42 +0100 (BST), Trevor Smithers wrote:
>
>>Would it be possible to include an option under Span to display the actual
>>frequency of the upper and lower offsets rather than -30 +30 or whatever
>>has been set.
>
> This is also on my wish list.
>
> Another wish that might be tougher -- I'd like to set limits of the display
> in terms of frequency and have the RX window move across the screen rather
> than stay fixed. Now, I realize this isn't easy, but it would be QUITE
> useful.
>
> 73, Jim K9YC
>
>
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[Elecraft] CORRECTION: Elecraft [P3] Shipping Notice

[K4SC]

My order date may have been June 2nd.  There are two different dates on the
invoice I was sent.  I really don't remember when I ordered it, but June
does sound right.  Hope I didn't get too many orderees overly excited.
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Re: [Elecraft] Elecraft [P3] Shipping Notice

[K4SC]

I received my P3 Order Confirmation today.  My order date was 7/17.  Says it
should ship in 7 to 10 business days.  Yippee Skippee 
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[Elecraft] [K3] TX Gate Feature request

[Lu Romero]

Hello all:

I am now using a Yamaha CM-500 headset in my station,
replacing a Heil ProSet DX4.  The Heil was a very close
talking mic, where the Yamaha likes to be operated at some
distance from my mouth for good response (it has a
pronounced bass enhancing proximity effect and "breath pops"
easily).

Unfortunately, I have a very noisy shack environment, being
in the garage with a rather loud window air conditioner
about four feet from my operating position.  

While this was not an issue with the Heil, it is with the
Yamaha.  It has a very pronounced bass proximity effect and
I have to place it farther away from my mouth to not sound
muddy.  Therefore, I have to run the mic gain higher for the
same levels.  The A/C makes a white noise like sound which
is noticeable when the PTT is engaged and since the mic has
a very omnidirectional pattern, it picks up a lot of
extaneous noise from the A/C fan.  

To "fix" things like this in the past, I used a Behringer
audio compressor/limiter (MDX-2600) and set its downward
expander to gate the audio between spaces in my speech.  I
have also used a RDL GCA2 AGC which also features a gate. 
Both of these units "soft cut" the gate in.  The audio chain
in the K3 is so good, I have found that I dont need the
external gear, and have dismantled the rack that contained
these devices and gained some room.

I had to replace the A/C unit, and the new one is much
stronger than the old one, but its louder too.  So, in order
to mitigate this, I tried to employ the TX Gate feature.

As it is currently implemented, The TX Gate has some issues
that need to be addressed.  I find it almost unuseable
because of the following two issues.

First, there is a noticeable "leakage crackle" right at the
mute threshold.  Its really annoying, sounds like a bad
cable!  Turning the threshold up simply clips more of my
voice, so that is not a solution (I run TX Gate at 15 to 18
now).  Second, the Gate's muting takes effect *immediately*,
harshly clipping the audio out in silent spaces.  It sounds
rather unnatural and harsh, again, especially with the white
noise generated by the A/C.

Would it be possible to include an adjustable "soft mute"
decay curve in the gate?  What I mean is, have a control
that ramps the muting in at an adjustable rate, fading the
muting effect in instead of cutting it on and off.  This
would be for the "decay" part of the gate only... The Attack
part is just fine!

The adjustability would allow for different sound
environments, such as background noise in a Mult Multi, wall
reberberations and things like fan noise.  A "soft mute"
effect would also probably mitigate the crackle at the same
time (or hide it).  

TX Gate is a great built in feature... Adding this
adjustment would go far in enhancing the capabilities of the
already excellent audio chain inside the K3 (now that I
figured out how not to punch audio holes in the processor!).

Thanks for the consideration of my suggestion.  If anybody
has figured out how to deal with my issue in the existing
software implementation, I would love to hear your
technique.  If you want to hear my problem youself, I can
send you a MP3 sample.

Lu Romero - W4LT
K3 # 3192

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Re: [Elecraft] [P3] screen freeze.

[Jim Brown]

On Sun, 22 Aug 2010 08:49:35 -0400, Larry - K2GN wrote:

>Well, it's still doing the freeze.

I had this problem and fixed it (I think) by bonding the chassis of the 
computer to the chassis of the K3 with a short length of #10 copper. I 
suspect a Pin 1 Problem at one of the RS232 connectors involved (there 
are four -- computer, P3, P3, and K3). 

73, Jim K9YC



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Re: [Elecraft] (P3) Feature request Span frequency display

[Jim Brown]

On Sun, 22 Aug 2010 11:42 +0100 (BST), Trevor Smithers wrote:

>Would it be possible to include an option under Span to display the actual 
>frequency of the upper and lower offsets rather than -30 +30 or whatever 
>has been set.

This is also on my wish list. 

Another wish that might be tougher -- I'd like to set limits of the display 
in terms of frequency and have the RX window move across the screen rather 
than stay fixed. Now, I realize this isn't easy, but it would be QUITE 
useful.

73, Jim K9YC



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[Elecraft] MFJ 949E tuner

[W2bpi1]

If you have one of these tuners contact me off list. I need some info for  
the one I am repairing. You will need to remove the cover to get the  info. 
Tnx Geo/W2BPI
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Re: [Elecraft] using K3 with THP Hl-1.5KFX amp

[Tad Williamson]

Bob, I'm using a K3 with a THP 1.5Khx and it works great.  I believe you select 
Yaesu but I'm not at home to verify.  I bought the amp second hand and it 
already had an interface cable for the K3 and I plugged it up and it's been 
auto band-switching ever since.
Email me direct if you ahve any further questions.
73, Tad, WF4W ironbutt...@yahoo.com


 

"What a long, strange trip it's been"
 
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Truckin'
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Re: [Elecraft] Softrock/LP-Pan or similar wanted.

[Stephen Prior]

Many thanks to all who have replied, the various offers and the good advice.

I have done a lot of thinking and soul searching and I have decided that
since I would probably end up with a P3 someday anyway, I might just as well
go for it now!

Off to the order page!

Thanks again!

73 Stephen G4SJP




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[Elecraft] KX-1 Performance

[stan levandowski]

I consider myself "average" in all respects, so I'll bet I'm not the 
only KX-1 owner who has fallen into the trap of underestimating the 
capabilities of this little jewel.

Until a couple nights ago, I used my KX-1 like my other QRP rigs, both 
commercial and homebrew.  I kept my expectations rather "reasonable" (in 
other words, "low") and concentrated on working the louder signals on 
the bands.  Did quite well, I might add...

On Saturday, I heard a VERY weak "CQ", really down in the noise.  The 
great filtering helped out a lot.  I answered K3HX just for the heck of 
it and got a 559 report.

I normally use my KX-1 at home, with a Jetstream power supply for 3+ 
watts out, and a 40 meter full-sized dipole.  This was the case on 
Saturday night... or so I thought...

Seems I forgot to turn on the power supply.  A quick check with the 
inline wattmeter showed about 400 milliwatts going out.  The six "AA" 
batteries were pretty well run down and had been in the rig since I 
built it.

Just wanted to share this for the benefit of any other readers with the 
tendency to underestimate the KX-1.

I bought a K2 at the same time I bought the KX1.  I'm having so much fun 
with the KX1 that I haven't started building the K2 yet!  It's like 
being a new ham again!

Stan WB2LQF

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Re: [Elecraft] Overvoltage Protector Update

[John Huggins, kx4o]

Nice circuit.  Since this is meant to help protect the K3 from faulty
power supplies, this begs the question of what abuse can the K3 (or K2)
take from the power bus.

As an automotive power bus is a terrible awful place, will the K3 design
tolerate these typical values found on a vehicle power rail:

- Steady State Voltage between 12.5 to 15 Vdc,
- Upper and lower ripple of +/- 1 Vpeak riding on the Steady State values,
- Surge values between 9 and 20 Vdc for 600 ms,
- Spikes of +/- 125 Volts peaking for 70 uS falling to steady state levels
after 1 ms,

?

> I've updated the drawing to include construction notes and a mechanical
> sketch:
>
> http://www.ssec.wisc.edu/~scotte/hr/OVP.pdf
>
>
> The large heat sink, I know, will seem to some like overkill.  To me, an
> extra 20 bucks seems like cheap insurance.  See the notes.
>
> As W8JI notes, a simpler circuit just uses a zener diode to drive the SCR.
>  I chose the more complex version to allow the trip point to be set close
> to the operating voltage.  The K3, for example, has a maximum rating of
> 15.0 V, too close to 13.8 for the simpler circuit.
>
> At the moment, all the parts are available from Digi-Key.
>
> Scott  K9MA
>
>
>
>
> On Aug 20, 2010, at 3:00 PM, Scott Ellington wrote:
>
>> Some power supplies, like the Samlex SEC 1235, have no built-in

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Re: [Elecraft] Norton... [END of Thread]

[Eric Swartz - WA6HHQ, Elecraft]

  End of the OT Norton part of this thread.

73, Eric
Elecraft List Moderator

On 8/23/2010 7:29 AM, John Ragle wrote:
>Perhaps this is not as off-topic as it appears! I would like to
> add my viewpoint to those who condemn Norton's various utilities...I
> concur in their assessment whole-heartedly. The various Norton AV
> programs are known to steal as much as 25% in the way of clock cycles,
> as well as being inflexible and obdurate to a fault. I believe they
> should be avoided at all costs, particularly when one is using the
> computer in real-time radio control applications. I have used Zone Alarm
> and AVG for many years without problem. When new computers are delivered
> to me running Norton, it is the first to go. [My computer experience
> extends back to IBM-650 days and forward to WIN 7 (64 bit) days.]
>
> John Ragle -- W1ZI
>
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Re: [Elecraft] NEW TO THE LIST

[Eric Swartz - WA6HHQ, Elecraft]

  Its also important to note that the P3 explicitly provides an IF 
output to down-converter boxes like LP-PAN and the softrock board. This 
in turn sirectly supports directly supports any PC-Based s/w like 
skimmer etc.

73, Eric

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Re: [Elecraft] P3 Utility (Windows Version 1.3.7.22)

[Ian Maude]

By the way, to get rid of Norton, you will need the Norton Removal Tool of
the Symantec site.  Doing it manually (unless you really know what you are
doing) is just not viable.

73 Ian
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Member RSGB, GQRP 9838, FISTS 14077 | K3 #455
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On 23 August 2010 18:46, Ian Maude  wrote:

> I totally agree with this!  Norton is a pain!
>
> 73 Ian
> --
> Ian J Maude, G0VGS
> SysOp GB7MBC & HB9DRV-9 DX Clusters
> Member RSGB, GQRP 9838, FISTS 14077 | K3 #455
> http://www.amateurradiotraining.org
>
>
>
> On 23 August 2010 15:18, Oliver Bross  wrote:
>
>> This is my first contribution to this list, however I have been long time
>> "silent" reader of all the posts. This time I decided to reply as an IT
>> Professional I have developed strong " allergy " against Norton product
>> line.
>>
>> I do run my own successful business here, providing professional IT
>> business services to a lot of different companies. One, very unpleasant
>> thing I have to always deal with is "Norton". We have setup a rule here -
>> not to help anybody if they run any kind of Norton antivirus software on
>> their computers. We actually consider Norton as one of the biggest viruses
>> out there.
>>
>> I have to defend Elecraft position here by saying that there is nothing
>> wrong with their P3 Utility, but there is everything wrong with Norton! And
>> yes, before you start to "hammer" me here, I do know lots of happy Norton
>> users, but I also know many of them which are now even happier with
>> different product.
>>
>> John, if you want to do something good to your PC, get rid of your Norton,
>> you will be surprised with the extra speed released from your computer and
>> you will also get much better protection than Norton can give you with
>> different software.
>>
>> Elecraft software products are rock solid, and yes, I do use them on PC,
>> Mac as well as Linux.
>>
>> Good luck.
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>> Oliver, MW0JRX
>>
>> Oliver Bross MBA, MBCS CITP , MACS
>> MCITP : Ent Admin, MCTS , MCSE , MCSA
>> MW0JRX and OM0ARX
>>
>> "The successful organism is the organism that adapts"
>>
>>
>>
>> From: "John E. Reiser " < reiserj @ optonline .net>
>> To: " Elecraft Reflector" < elecraft @mailman. qth .net>
>> Sent: Monday, 23 August, 2010 1:51:35 PM
>> Subject: [ Elecraft ] P3 Utility (Windows Version 1.3.7.22)
>>
>> Hello Elecrafters ,
>>
>> I have been trying unsuccessfully to install the P3 Utility (Windows
>> Version 1.3.7.22). My virus protection program, Norton 360, will not allow
>> it. Norton pops up a message that a serious security breach has occurred.
>> Then I'm asked to restart my computer.
>>
>> I tried the install a couple of times on each of two different computers,
>> one running Windows XP , and the other running Vista. The results were
>> exactly the same.
>>
>> I know, I know, turn off the Norton 360. But hold on a minute, Norton 360
>> is just doing its job Something is wrong with the way the latest P3 Utility
>> is coded. Norton 360 has never before objected to any program installations
>> on these computers, including several versions of the K3 Utility.
>>
>> I am hoping that the programmer of the P3 Utility reads this and fixes the
>> problem with the code.
>>
>> I have received notification that my P3 is about to be shipped, so I need
>> the Utility to be working on my computer soon.
>>
>> Many thanks and 73,
>>
>> John, W2GW
>>
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Re: [Elecraft] P3 Utility (Windows Version 1.3.7.22)

[Ian Maude]

I totally agree with this!  Norton is a pain!

73 Ian
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SysOp GB7MBC & HB9DRV-9 DX Clusters
Member RSGB, GQRP 9838, FISTS 14077 | K3 #455
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On 23 August 2010 15:18, Oliver Bross  wrote:

> This is my first contribution to this list, however I have been long time
> "silent" reader of all the posts. This time I decided to reply as an IT
> Professional I have developed strong " allergy " against Norton product
> line.
>
> I do run my own successful business here, providing professional IT
> business services to a lot of different companies. One, very unpleasant
> thing I have to always deal with is "Norton". We have setup a rule here -
> not to help anybody if they run any kind of Norton antivirus software on
> their computers. We actually consider Norton as one of the biggest viruses
> out there.
>
> I have to defend Elecraft position here by saying that there is nothing
> wrong with their P3 Utility, but there is everything wrong with Norton! And
> yes, before you start to "hammer" me here, I do know lots of happy Norton
> users, but I also know many of them which are now even happier with
> different product.
>
> John, if you want to do something good to your PC, get rid of your Norton,
> you will be surprised with the extra speed released from your computer and
> you will also get much better protection than Norton can give you with
> different software.
>
> Elecraft software products are rock solid, and yes, I do use them on PC,
> Mac as well as Linux.
>
> Good luck.
>
>
>
>
>
>
> Oliver, MW0JRX
>
> Oliver Bross MBA, MBCS CITP , MACS
> MCITP : Ent Admin, MCTS , MCSE , MCSA
> MW0JRX and OM0ARX
>
> "The successful organism is the organism that adapts"
>
>
>
> From: "John E. Reiser " < reiserj @ optonline .net>
> To: " Elecraft Reflector" < elecraft @mailman. qth .net>
> Sent: Monday, 23 August, 2010 1:51:35 PM
> Subject: [ Elecraft ] P3 Utility (Windows Version 1.3.7.22)
>
> Hello Elecrafters ,
>
> I have been trying unsuccessfully to install the P3 Utility (Windows
> Version 1.3.7.22). My virus protection program, Norton 360, will not allow
> it. Norton pops up a message that a serious security breach has occurred.
> Then I'm asked to restart my computer.
>
> I tried the install a couple of times on each of two different computers,
> one running Windows XP , and the other running Vista. The results were
> exactly the same.
>
> I know, I know, turn off the Norton 360. But hold on a minute, Norton 360
> is just doing its job Something is wrong with the way the latest P3 Utility
> is coded. Norton 360 has never before objected to any program installations
> on these computers, including several versions of the K3 Utility.
>
> I am hoping that the programmer of the P3 Utility reads this and fixes the
> problem with the code.
>
> I have received notification that my P3 is about to be shipped, so I need
> the Utility to be working on my computer soon.
>
> Many thanks and 73,
>
> John, W2GW
>
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Re: [Elecraft] using K3 with THP Hl-1.5KFX amp

[Don Ehrlich]

Bob,

Others have mentioned that the cable can be purchased from Array Solutions. 
I think that is where I got mine and the cost was about $35.

I have an early K3/100, S/N 195, which I have had more than two and a half 
years.  I bought the tuner, KIO3, and general coverage modules.  The filters 
are stock 2.8 KHz for SSB, 200 Hz for CW, and 8KHz for AM.  I do not have 
the sub receiver and have not yet found a need for it sufficient to justify 
the cost but I might yet decide to get one some day.

I am primarily a CW operator and have no interest in dx or contesting.  I 
just ragchew with friends and so, for me, I rarely need to use the K3 to its 
full capabilities.  That said .. I very much value quality and like to have 
the latest and the best.  The K3 certainly satisfies that requirement.

I am not getting the P3.  I already have the LP-Pan receiver playing into a 
Creative 0202 USB sound card interface to the computer.  I run PowerSDR/IF 
software to provide a huge beautiful panadapter display as well as providing 
'point-and-shoot' radio tuning and other radio control.  Maybe some day 
Elecraft will have added capabilities to the P3 that are attractive enough 
to make me want one but that has not happened yet.  However, the LP-Pan (or 
Softrock) approach to panadapter function is somthing that only the 
technically inclined should attempt.  It is relatively complex, involves the 
need to build special cables, and requires considerable software setup.

A caution about your THP 1.5 amps:  The Tokyo manual shows where the little 
dc-dc converter is inside the amp and where the pots are that control fan 
speed.  Be careful when/if adjusting those pots because they vary the fan 
voltage from zero all the way up to 50 volts and THE FAN IS RATED ONLY FOR 
24 VOLTS!   I destroyed two fans in the amp before discovering that problem.

I have never missed a fancy color display.  I sure have not missed the need 
to PAY for one.  Those big 'fancy' radios with huge color displays (and 
panadapters) have a lot of the cost (and size and weight) of the radio 
invested in the display and built-in computer needed to drive it ... and the 
rest of the radio (the IMPORTANT part) is usually highly compromised to 
compensate.  When I look at the simple monochrome display of the K3 I see a 
radio where no expense was spared on the important parts and none wasted on 
the frills.  You should look at it that way too.

Good photos of the K3 and amp are difficult for me because of how the shack 
is arranged.  I'll try to get a photo or two of the setup tonight when it is 
dark outside (no sunlight pouring in the windows) but I am not sure I will 
be able to get the gear framed in the picture the way I will want it.


Don K7FJ


> Don,
> Thank you so much for getting back to me so quickly. Yes, once you find 
> the source and price of the special interface cable, please e-mail me with 
> the information.
>
> I don't have a K3 at the moment, but I have been thinking about getting 
> one sometime soon. I would get most if not all of the options factory 
> assembled. What options do you recommend?
>
> How long have you had your K3? Currently, I use two THP HL-1.5KFX amps, 
> one with an IC-7800, the other with an IC-756PROII; the third rig is a 
> Kenwood TS-870S running barefoot always. I also use a Palstar AT-AUTO and 
> a Palstar AT1KM antenna tuner.
>
> Can you send some photos to me via e-mail of your K3 and THP amp. Are you 
> getting the new P3 also?
>
> All of the rigs work well and the RX's seem to be OK, but I have heard a 
> lot of neat/good things about the K3 RX etc. I wish they had a color 
> display like some of the other HF rigs, hi!
>
> My antenna system is a Mosley TA-63N, Mosley MY-144-5 for 2 meter SSB, 
> Arrow J-pole for 2/440 and an inverted-V for 80/40 and 30 at 40 ft. on a 
> Rohn 45G tower.
>
> I use to own a K2 and K1 QRP versions. The K3 is a much nicer radio IMHO. 
> I have never used one, but I have a friend nearby who has one. I need to 
> go over to listen to the RX.
>
> Thanks again. Take care.
>
> Bob Wilderman, K3SRO

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[Elecraft] Overvoltage Protector Update

[Scott Ellington]

I've updated the drawing to include construction notes and a mechanical sketch:

http://www.ssec.wisc.edu/~scotte/hr/OVP.pdf


The large heat sink, I know, will seem to some like overkill.  To me, an extra 
20 bucks seems like cheap insurance.  See the notes.

As W8JI notes, a simpler circuit just uses a zener diode to drive the SCR.  I 
chose the more complex version to allow the trip point to be set close to the 
operating voltage.  The K3, for example, has a maximum rating of 15.0 V, too 
close to 13.8 for the simpler circuit.

At the moment, all the parts are available from Digi-Key.

Scott  K9MA




On Aug 20, 2010, at 3:00 PM, Scott Ellington wrote:

> Some power supplies, like the Samlex SEC 1235, have no built-in overvoltage 
> protection.  All regulated power supplies are capable of producing much more 
> than their normal output voltage if any one of a number of things fails.  
> Linear supplies are particularly susceptible, since the pass transistor can 
> short.  
> 
> While Elecraft assures me that the K3 can survive an overvoltage with minimal 
> damage, I prefer to be on the safe side.   So I designed a crowbar circuit, 
> which can be used with any 12 V power supply up to 30A.  If the voltage 
> exceeds the trip point (14-16 V), it will short the power supply output and, 
> if necessary, blow a fuse.
> 
> http://www.ssec.wisc.edu/~scotte/hr/OVP.pdf
> 
> I haven't built this one yet, but a very similar one I built in 1984 worked 
> fine.
> 
> 73,
> 
> Scott  K9MA
> 
> 
> 

Scott Ellington
Madison, Wisconsin
USA



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Re: [Elecraft] Loose Handle on K3

[Mike Fatchett]

  Nylock nuts are a possible solution as well.  Maybe not in the K3 but 
I use them more and more especially on antennas where there are 
vibrations etc.

Mike W0MU

On 8/23/2010 9:55 AM, Ron D'Eau Claire wrote:
> Sometimes a locking compound is simply the most practical solution. Most of
> the electronics equipment used in WWII had either locking compound on the
> screws, safety wires in the nuts, or both. Any OT who has pulled apart a
> WWII ARC-5 was greeted with a sea of little red spots on every fastener
> inside!
>
> There are times when the extra margin of safety is worth the effort. A dab
> of nail polish is a benign and effective way to add that extra protection
> that easily crumbles and falls off when the screw is removed. OTOH, I avoid
> locking compounds such as Loc-Tite. That stuff slowly dissolves many
> plastics, entirely destroying whatever it touches over a period of weeks and
> months.
>
> I've not had a K3 handle screw come loose, but the design is such that you
> do *not* want to over-tighten the hardware. That will compress the handle
> covers so they squeeze against the handle strap and prevent it from moving
> to lie flat against the side of the K3 when it's not in use.
>
> Ron AC7AC
>
> -Original Message-
> I hope not. The world would fall apart as we know it.
>
> Locking compounds are never necessary to lock with the correct hardware and
> materials. That's why wheel lug nuts stay tight even when threads are
> greased, and why oil soaked engine and transmission bolts stay tight even
> when spun, stressed, and vibrated.
>
> When a small screw comes loose it is because of a material problem (like
> selection of the wrong locking hardware) or tightening error. Locking
> compounds make up for other mistakes or shortfalls like too tight or too
> loose or bad hardware. If we can't fix the real problem, then we should use
> them.
>
> 73 Tom
>
>
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[Elecraft] Elecraft SSB Net results (8-22-10)

[Edward R. Cole]

I was too late for the net but found Roger, K7SJ on 14.314 Sunday 
morning and had a nice chat.  After that John, N6JW/6 and I had an 
even longer QSO.  I am running my K3/10 with 14w to a triband yagi at 
50-feet.  Near QRP did quite nicely.  Eventually, we will have 
250-300w using a CCI kit amp, and 1500w with a HB-8877 in a couple 
years when my project list dwindles a bit.


73, Ed - KL7UW, WD2XSH/45
==
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EME: 144-QRT*, 432-100w, 1296-QRT*, 3400-fall 2010
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Re: [Elecraft] P3 Utility (Windows Version 1.3.7.22)

[Edward R. Cole]

Many years ago I ran Norton AV on one of my computers and had a devil 
of a time uninstalling it when it became a problem.  We now run 
AVG9.0 on all four of our faster computers and nothing on the win95 
p100 and p90 which are not connected to the Internet (one is shelved 
and the other runs two dedicated programs: CWKEY and Packet).

AVG asks if I want to connect or download when using the K3 
utility.  Simple to give it permission.


73, Ed - KL7UW, WD2XSH/45
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[Elecraft] K3 request?

[ussv dharma]

Aloha Elecraft:
 Thanks again for fantastic piece of equipment.  Best ever.

Since the K3 is basically an SDR, with knobs, would it be possible to add DRM 
to the Modes?  Lots of us do listen as SWL's.  DRM would be a great 
additionand I may be wrong, But I think it would be only software.

Susan


If you don't change direction you WILL arrive exactly where you're 
headed!! Susan Meckley, Skipper W7KFI-mm  AFA9SM USSV 
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[Elecraft] K3THP2 Cable for K3

[Michael Raskin]

K3THP2 Cable for K3 ALC & Band Data to THP-2.5KFX.  Brought 6 months ago 
from Array Solutions for $35.  It is brand new, never unwrapped.  Yours for 
$18 which includes free shipping USA.

Mike, W4UM 

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Re: [Elecraft] P3 Utility (Windows Version 1.3.7.22)

[Don Wilhelm]

John,

I would suggest you ditch the Norton AV - it used to be a good AV 
program, but has fallen way behind others that are available, many for free.
I have been using Microsoft Security Essentials with great success, and 
used the free AVG anti-virus before that, no problem with either one, 
but I believe the MS Security Essentials is actually better, and less 
intrusive about doing updates.

73,
Don W3FPR

John E. Reiser wrote:
> Hello Elecrafters,
>
> I have been trying unsuccessfully to install the P3 Utility (Windows Version 
> 1.3.7.22).   My virus protection program, Norton 360, will not allow it.  
> Norton pops up a message that a serious security breach has occurred.  Then 
> I'm asked to restart my computer.
>
> I tried the install a couple of times on each of two different computers, one 
> running Windows XP, and the other running Vista.  The results were exactly 
> the same.
>
> I know, I know, turn off the Norton 360.  But hold on a minute,  Norton 360 
> is just doing its job  Something is wrong with the way the latest P3 Utility 
> is coded.  Norton 360 has never before objected to any program installations 
> on these computers, including several versions of the K3 Utility.
>
> I am hoping that the programmer of the P3 Utility reads this and fixes the 
> problem with the code.
>
>   
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[Elecraft] using K3 with THP Hl-1.5KFX amp

[Ken Kopp]

I have the HL-1.5KFX from Array Solutions that's
mated with My K3 with cabling from AS. Works
fine.

73! Ken Kopp - K0PP


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Re: [Elecraft] [K3] Screen Viewing Angle

[Joe Word]

Thanks for all the responses, I made some adjustments and it is very good now.

73,

Joe  N9VX

On Mon, Aug 23, 2010 at 11:21 AM, Joe Word  wrote:
> I have a friends K3 borrowed (evaluating to possible purchase one) and
> find with the bale up and the K3 setting on by desk the screen's
> contract fades way down when I sit back in by chair.  For best viewing
> I have to stand up and look down at it. If I look straight into it the
> contrast is poor. The serial number is in the 1300 range, has there
> been improvements with latter S/N versions?
>
> Joe  N9VX
>
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Re: [Elecraft] Norton...

[Ken Kopp]

I've had no problems with Norton 360 on three XP computers.

73! Ken Kopp - K0PP

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Re: [Elecraft] using K3 with THP Hl-1.5KFX amp

[w5ov]

Array Solutions has the cables for connecting the K3 to either the
HL-2.5KFX or HL-1.5KFX.

> If you check the archives I believe this topic is covered specifically for
> that amp. I use the 2.5KFX and it provides auto bandswitching from the K3.
> I use a W2 watt meter to protect the 2.5KFX in the event of poor antenna
> selection or mistune.  The cable for the AMP was purchased from DX
> Engineering as I recall.  Any vendor who sells the amp will sell you the
> proper cable.
>
> Bill
> K9YEQ
> K2 and KX1 field tester, K3 and modules
>
> -Original Message-
> From: elecraft-boun...@mailman.qth.net
> [mailto:elecraft-boun...@mailman.qth.net] On Behalf Of Linda and Bob
> Sent: Monday, August 23, 2010 10:37 AM
> To: elecraft@mailman.qth.net
> Subject: [Elecraft] using K3 with THP Hl-1.5KFX amp
>
> Has anyone used a THP HL- 1.5KFX amp with the K3? Can you use the amp and
> K3
> with auto band changing data? If so, does the K3 emulate either the ICOM,
> Kenwood or Yaesu band tracking data? Otherwise, I would have to change the
> bands manually.
>
> Bob Wilderman, K3SRO
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Re: [Elecraft] using K3 with THP Hl-1.5KFX amp

[Don Ehrlich]

I have that setup and the K3 works great with the Tokyo HL-1.5KFX.  You will 
need a special interface cable that connects the Yaesu port of the amplifier 
to the aux connector of the K3.  You can build the cable yourself or, as I 
did, buy one.I forgot where I got my cable but will look it up if no one 
else mentions the source (a Tokyo HyPower dealer).

Let me know direct if you need that info or other operating info for the 
Tokyo HyPower HL-1.5KFX amp.

Don K7FJ


- Original Message - 
From: "Linda and Bob" 
To: 
Sent: Monday, August 23, 2010 08:37
Subject: [Elecraft] using K3 with THP Hl-1.5KFX amp


> Has anyone used a THP HL- 1.5KFX amp with the K3? Can you use the amp and 
> K3 with auto band changing data? If so, does the K3 emulate either the 
> ICOM, Kenwood or Yaesu band tracking data? Otherwise, I would have to 
> change the bands manually.
>
> Bob Wilderman, K3SRO
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Re: [Elecraft] using K3 with THP Hl-1.5KFX amp

[Bill K9YEQ]

If you check the archives I believe this topic is covered specifically for
that amp. I use the 2.5KFX and it provides auto bandswitching from the K3.
I use a W2 watt meter to protect the 2.5KFX in the event of poor antenna
selection or mistune.  The cable for the AMP was purchased from DX
Engineering as I recall.  Any vendor who sells the amp will sell you the
proper cable.

Bill
K9YEQ
K2 and KX1 field tester, K3 and modules

-Original Message-
From: elecraft-boun...@mailman.qth.net
[mailto:elecraft-boun...@mailman.qth.net] On Behalf Of Linda and Bob
Sent: Monday, August 23, 2010 10:37 AM
To: elecraft@mailman.qth.net
Subject: [Elecraft] using K3 with THP Hl-1.5KFX amp

Has anyone used a THP HL- 1.5KFX amp with the K3? Can you use the amp and K3
with auto band changing data? If so, does the K3 emulate either the ICOM,
Kenwood or Yaesu band tracking data? Otherwise, I would have to change the
bands manually.

Bob Wilderman, K3SRO
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Re: [Elecraft] NEW TO THE LIST [P3 vs. LP-Pan]

[Jim Brown]

On Sat, 21 Aug 2010 15:57:12 -0700, Wayne Burdick wrote:

>The LP-Pan uses a PC for its display.

I've owned and used an LP-Pan for a while. I liked it,  the software 
associated with LP-Pan burns a lot of computer resources, and so does my 
contest logging software. With both running, there's not much left for 
the computer to send voice messages, etc. And, I had to reorganize my 
operating desk to find room for a computer monitor for the display. The 
existing computer screen (a laptop) was already full to overflowing with 
my contest logging software. 

When the P3 was introduced, I immediately ordered two, one for each of my 
K3s that work in an SO2R (single-operator-two-radio) contesting setup. 

Why did I do that? For the reasons noted above, and because the combined 
cost of a computer, LP-Pan, and high quality, broadband audio sound card 
comes pretty close to the cost of a P3 (in kit form). And I would have 
two extra computer monitors to find room for on my operating desk, which 
is already full to overflowing. 

I received the P3s a week or so ago, and am pleased. Took less than an 
hour to build each of them. I'm also working on a short list of software 
suggestions for the design team. :) 

73, Jim K9YC



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Re: [Elecraft] [K3] Screen Viewing Angle

[Bill K9YEQ]

Perhaps adjusting the contrast is what is needed.  Check the manual for a
how-to-do

Bill
K9YEQ

-Original Message-
From: elecraft-boun...@mailman.qth.net
[mailto:elecraft-boun...@mailman.qth.net] On Behalf Of Joe Word
Sent: Monday, August 23, 2010 10:22 AM
To: elecraft@mailman.qth.net
Subject: [Elecraft] [K3] Screen Viewing Angle

I have a friends K3 borrowed (evaluating to possible purchase one) and find
with the bale up and the K3 setting on by desk the screen's contract fades
way down when I sit back in by chair.  For best viewing I have to stand up
and look down at it. If I look straight into it the contrast is poor. The
serial number is in the 1300 range, has there been improvements with latter
S/N versions?

Joe  N9VX
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Re: [Elecraft] Loose Handle on K3

[Ron D'Eau Claire]

Sometimes a locking compound is simply the most practical solution. Most of
the electronics equipment used in WWII had either locking compound on the
screws, safety wires in the nuts, or both. Any OT who has pulled apart a
WWII ARC-5 was greeted with a sea of little red spots on every fastener
inside!

There are times when the extra margin of safety is worth the effort. A dab
of nail polish is a benign and effective way to add that extra protection
that easily crumbles and falls off when the screw is removed. OTOH, I avoid
locking compounds such as Loc-Tite. That stuff slowly dissolves many
plastics, entirely destroying whatever it touches over a period of weeks and
months.

I've not had a K3 handle screw come loose, but the design is such that you
do *not* want to over-tighten the hardware. That will compress the handle
covers so they squeeze against the handle strap and prevent it from moving
to lie flat against the side of the K3 when it's not in use. 

Ron AC7AC

-Original Message-
I hope not. The world would fall apart as we know it.

Locking compounds are never necessary to lock with the correct hardware and 
materials. That's why wheel lug nuts stay tight even when threads are 
greased, and why oil soaked engine and transmission bolts stay tight even 
when spun, stressed, and vibrated.

When a small screw comes loose it is because of a material problem (like 
selection of the wrong locking hardware) or tightening error. Locking 
compounds make up for other mistakes or shortfalls like too tight or too 
loose or bad hardware. If we can't fix the real problem, then we should use 
them.

73 Tom 


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[Elecraft] help

[Ricardo A. Rodrigues]

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Re: [Elecraft] Handle replacement on K3

[Dan]

Although, properly designed and tightened fasteners should not come apart
when you don't want them to, in practice any screw can come loose at any
time. Whenever I put together any screw or bolt that I do not expect to take
apart routinely, I use Loctite or fingernail polish to 'lock' it in place.
When I built the K3 (#4515), I used that on a few screws/nuts, specifically,
the handle, the feet, the support bail and the ANT1 and ANT2 hold down
screws/nuts. I wouldn't go out of my way to use the stuff, but if you have
any problem, just use that. I did not use them on any connector that needed
good electrical connections or that I expect to take apart from time to
time, e.g. covers, side panels, stand-offs.
 
Best way is to put a drop on the threads INSIDE the nut and then attach it
and tighten it, then place a drop on the exposed screw/bolt threads. If you
are concerned about electrical connection, then only place it on the exposed
screw/bolt threads after tightening it. For the handle, feet and bail,
electrical connectivity are not a concern and you will never expect to need
to remove these items. IF you DO need to remove them, they can be removed
with only a moderate amount of extra effort and it does NOT destroy the
threads.
 
To be thorough, there are two different types of Loctite. The usual is
designed as described above and is essentially fingernail polish. The other
type is a much stronger type for where a near permenant bond is required.
This may destroy the nut/bolt if removed, altho some (epoxy) types are
designed to be removeable after heating to 400 degrees.
 
Dan NM3A

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Re: [Elecraft] Norton...

[Jim McDonald]

Believe it or not, the 2010 version of Norton Internet Security, is the
top-rated "pay security site" by Consumers Reports.  The CU score is 67
versus 51 for AVG Antivirus Free Edition 9.0.

>From the reviews I've read Norton is much improved in the last couple of
years.  I'm using it and had no problem with the K3 Utility program on my XP
computer or my current Windows 7/64 Professional Edition one.

Jim N7US



-Original Message-

  Perhaps this is not as off-topic as it appears! I would like to 
add my viewpoint to those who condemn Norton's various utilities...I 
concur in their assessment whole-heartedly. The various Norton AV 
programs are known to steal as much as 25% in the way of clock cycles, 
as well as being inflexible and obdurate to a fault. I believe they 
should be avoided at all costs, particularly when one is using the 
computer in real-time radio control applications. I have used Zone Alarm 
and AVG for many years without problem. When new computers are delivered 
to me running Norton, it is the first to go. [My computer experience 
extends back to IBM-650 days and forward to WIN 7 (64 bit) days.]

John Ragle -- W1ZI


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Re: [Elecraft] [K3] Screen Viewing Angle

[David Ferrington, M0XDF]

Contrast is adjustable, as per manual...
LCD ADJ
LCD viewing angle and contrast. Use higher settings if the radio is used at or 
above eye level. If adjusted incorrectly, bar graphs will be too light or heavy 
during keying.

One of the best displays I've seen of it's type.

73 de M0XDF, K3 #174, P3 #108
-- 
Those who walk bravely through life, unafraid of loss or failure,
find that they very rarely lose or fail.



On 23 Aug 2010, at 16:21, Joe Word wrote:

> I have a friends K3 borrowed (evaluating to possible purchase one) and
> find with the bale up and the K3 setting on by desk the screen's
> contract fades way down when I sit back in by chair.  For best viewing
> I have to stand up and look down at it. If I look straight into it the
> contrast is poor. The serial number is in the 1300 range, has there
> been improvements with latter S/N versions?

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[Elecraft] using K3 with THP Hl-1.5KFX amp

[Linda and Bob]

Has anyone used a THP HL- 1.5KFX amp with the K3? Can you use the amp and K3 
with auto band changing data? If so, does the K3 emulate either the ICOM, 
Kenwood or Yaesu band tracking data? Otherwise, I would have to change the 
bands manually.

Bob Wilderman, K3SRO
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[Elecraft] new P3 with K3 photos

[Linda and Bob]

If you have the new P3 with the K3, please post some close-up photos of your 
gear for all of us to view. Let us know how you like your new P3. What options 
would you recommend if buying a factory assembled K3?

Thanks,
Bob Wilderman, K3SRO
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Re: [Elecraft] K1 Question Please?

[Vic K2VCO]

The job of replacing a bad soldered-in chip is easy, does not require any 
special 
equipment, and does not threaten the board it's mounted on. Even a klutz like 
me has done 
it many times successfully.

All you need is a small pair of cutters. Cut all the legs of the bad chip near 
the body 
and remove the bad chip.

Then if you feel like it you can unsolder each of the legs one at a time, clean 
the holes 
with solder wick and replace the chip. If you don't want to risk even that or 
don't have 
access to the bottom of the board, just solder the new chip to the old legs.

On 8/22/2010 11:10 PM, Alexey Kats wrote:
> I wholeheartedly agree that I did not consider this topic from the
> perspective of warranty repairs (never needed it in the past since I
> do always do it myself).
>
> But I had been in a situation in a different country where the cost of
> a single IC (even though it is very cheap here in US) was close to my
> TWO MONTH INCOME. And with the high chances of getting a fried chip at
> the bazaar back then the trouble of installing a socket for almost
> everything was definitely not sophomoric, amateurish, silly, stupid,
> or unnecessary - it was a compromise to bring the cost of highly
> likely repairs down (the cost of trashing entire board due to
> re-soldering same IC over and over was unacceptable).
>
> Can it be installed? Yes. Can it work? Yes. Will it cause problems
> mechanically for further assembly process? No. Will it be as reliable
> as soldering? No. Will it be accepted for warranty repairs? No. Will
> it decrease the chance of breaking the board trying to unsolder the
> fried or mis-installed IC by an inexperienced builder? Yes. Will it
> increase the chance of mis-installing IC? Yes. Will it be worth it?
> Depends on your personal preference.
>
> Did I miss anything?


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[Elecraft] [K3] Screen Viewing Angle

[Joe Word]

I have a friends K3 borrowed (evaluating to possible purchase one) and
find with the bale up and the K3 setting on by desk the screen's
contract fades way down when I sit back in by chair.  For best viewing
I have to stand up and look down at it. If I look straight into it the
contrast is poor. The serial number is in the 1300 range, has there
been improvements with latter S/N versions?

Joe  N9VX
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[Elecraft] Norton...

[John Ragle]

  Perhaps this is not as off-topic as it appears! I would like to 
add my viewpoint to those who condemn Norton's various utilities...I 
concur in their assessment whole-heartedly. The various Norton AV 
programs are known to steal as much as 25% in the way of clock cycles, 
as well as being inflexible and obdurate to a fault. I believe they 
should be avoided at all costs, particularly when one is using the 
computer in real-time radio control applications. I have used Zone Alarm 
and AVG for many years without problem. When new computers are delivered 
to me running Norton, it is the first to go. [My computer experience 
extends back to IBM-650 days and forward to WIN 7 (64 bit) days.]

John Ragle -- W1ZI
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Re: [Elecraft] P3 Utility (Windows Version 1.3.7.22)

[Jeff Herr]

As a 20 year veteran IT Director it is my opinion that the Norton product is
source of the fault.


-Original Message-
From: elecraft-boun...@mailman.qth.net
[mailto:elecraft-boun...@mailman.qth.net] On Behalf Of Phil LaMarche
Sent: Monday, August 23, 2010 7:13 AM
To: 'Oliver Bross'; 'Elecraft Reflector'
Subject: Re: [Elecraft] P3 Utility (Windows Version 1.3.7.22)


I have used AVG Professional on my 3 computers for over 12 years and have
never had a virus problem.  AVG stops everything cold.  There are others
just as good but why switch if it's not broken.  Agree on Norton as that's
what I came from before AVG.  Nothing but problems.

Phil 


Philip LaMarche
 
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[mailto:elecraft-boun...@mailman.qth.net] On Behalf Of Oliver Bross
Sent: Monday, August 23, 2010 10:18 AM
To: Elecraft Reflector
Subject: Re: [Elecraft] P3 Utility (Windows Version 1.3.7.22)

This is my first contribution to this list, however I have been long time
"silent" reader of all the posts. This time I decided to reply as an IT
Professional I have developed strong " allergy " against Norton product
line. 

I do run my own successful business here, providing professional IT business
services to a lot of different companies. One, very unpleasant thing I have
to always deal with is "Norton". We have setup a rule here - not to help
anybody if they run any kind of Norton antivirus software on their
computers. We actually consider Norton as one of the biggest viruses out
there. 

I have to defend Elecraft position here by saying that there is nothing
wrong with their P3 Utility, but there is everything wrong with Norton! And
yes, before you start to "hammer" me here, I do know lots of happy Norton
users, but I also know many of them which are now even happier with
different product. 

John, if you want to do something good to your PC, get rid of your Norton,
you will be surprised with the extra speed released from your computer and
you will also get much better protection than Norton can give you with
different software. 

Elecraft software products are rock solid, and yes, I do use them on PC, Mac
as well as Linux. 

Good luck. 






Oliver, MW0JRX 

Oliver Bross MBA, MBCS CITP , MACS
MCITP : Ent Admin, MCTS , MCSE , MCSA
MW0JRX and OM0ARX 

"The successful organism is the organism that adapts" 



From: "John E. Reiser " < reiserj @ optonline .net>
To: " Elecraft Reflector" < elecraft @mailman. qth .net>
Sent: Monday, 23 August, 2010 1:51:35 PM
Subject: [ Elecraft ] P3 Utility (Windows Version 1.3.7.22) 

Hello Elecrafters , 

I have been trying unsuccessfully to install the P3 Utility (Windows Version
1.3.7.22). My virus protection program, Norton 360, will not allow it.
Norton pops up a message that a serious security breach has occurred. Then
I'm asked to restart my computer. 

I tried the install a couple of times on each of two different computers,
one running Windows XP , and the other running Vista. The results were
exactly the same. 

I know, I know, turn off the Norton 360. But hold on a minute, Norton 360 is
just doing its job Something is wrong with the way the latest P3 Utility is
coded. Norton 360 has never before objected to any program installations on
these computers, including several versions of the K3 Utility. 

I am hoping that the programmer of the P3 Utility reads this and fixes the
problem with the code. 

I have received notification that my P3 is about to be shipped, so I need
the Utility to be working on my computer soon. 

Many thanks and 73, 

John, W2GW 

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Re: [Elecraft] P3 Utility (Windows Version 1.3.7.22)

[Dick]

  I bought a new laptop that came with Norton's and when the one year 
free trial was over it took a lot of pain and suffering to get rid of 
Norton. Have been with AVG every since and couldn't be happier.

-- 
73,

Dick / KC9GSM
Sebastian, FL
K-3 - #4019
FISTS #12648
SKCC #6955





On 8/23/2010 10:12 AM, Phil LaMarche wrote:
> I have used AVG Professional on my 3 computers for over 12 years and have
> never had a virus problem.  AVG stops everything cold.  There are others
> just as good but why switch if it's not broken.  Agree on Norton as that's
> what I came from before AVG.  Nothing but problems.
>
> Phil
>
>
> Philip LaMarche
>
> LaMarche Enterprises, Inc
> p...@lamarcheenterprises.com
> www.LaMarcheEnterprises.com
>
> 727-944-3226
> 727-937-8834 Fax
> 727-510-5038 Cell
>
> www.w9dvm.com
>
> K3 #1605
>
> CCA 98-00827
> CRA 1701
> W9DVM

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Re: [Elecraft] P3 Utility (Windows Version 1.3.7.22)

[Phil LaMarche]

I have used AVG Professional on my 3 computers for over 12 years and have
never had a virus problem.  AVG stops everything cold.  There are others
just as good but why switch if it's not broken.  Agree on Norton as that's
what I came from before AVG.  Nothing but problems.

Phil 


Philip LaMarche
 
LaMarche Enterprises, Inc
p...@lamarcheenterprises.com
www.LaMarcheEnterprises.com 
 
727-944-3226
727-937-8834 Fax
727-510-5038 Cell 
 
www.w9dvm.com
 
K3 #1605
 
CCA 98-00827
CRA 1701
W9DVM
 

-Original Message-
From: elecraft-boun...@mailman.qth.net
[mailto:elecraft-boun...@mailman.qth.net] On Behalf Of Oliver Bross
Sent: Monday, August 23, 2010 10:18 AM
To: Elecraft Reflector
Subject: Re: [Elecraft] P3 Utility (Windows Version 1.3.7.22)

This is my first contribution to this list, however I have been long time
"silent" reader of all the posts. This time I decided to reply as an IT
Professional I have developed strong " allergy " against Norton product
line. 

I do run my own successful business here, providing professional IT business
services to a lot of different companies. One, very unpleasant thing I have
to always deal with is "Norton". We have setup a rule here - not to help
anybody if they run any kind of Norton antivirus software on their
computers. We actually consider Norton as one of the biggest viruses out
there. 

I have to defend Elecraft position here by saying that there is nothing
wrong with their P3 Utility, but there is everything wrong with Norton! And
yes, before you start to "hammer" me here, I do know lots of happy Norton
users, but I also know many of them which are now even happier with
different product. 

John, if you want to do something good to your PC, get rid of your Norton,
you will be surprised with the extra speed released from your computer and
you will also get much better protection than Norton can give you with
different software. 

Elecraft software products are rock solid, and yes, I do use them on PC, Mac
as well as Linux. 

Good luck. 






Oliver, MW0JRX 

Oliver Bross MBA, MBCS CITP , MACS
MCITP : Ent Admin, MCTS , MCSE , MCSA
MW0JRX and OM0ARX 

"The successful organism is the organism that adapts" 



From: "John E. Reiser " < reiserj @ optonline .net>
To: " Elecraft Reflector" < elecraft @mailman. qth .net>
Sent: Monday, 23 August, 2010 1:51:35 PM
Subject: [ Elecraft ] P3 Utility (Windows Version 1.3.7.22) 

Hello Elecrafters , 

I have been trying unsuccessfully to install the P3 Utility (Windows Version
1.3.7.22). My virus protection program, Norton 360, will not allow it.
Norton pops up a message that a serious security breach has occurred. Then
I'm asked to restart my computer. 

I tried the install a couple of times on each of two different computers,
one running Windows XP , and the other running Vista. The results were
exactly the same. 

I know, I know, turn off the Norton 360. But hold on a minute, Norton 360 is
just doing its job Something is wrong with the way the latest P3 Utility is
coded. Norton 360 has never before objected to any program installations on
these computers, including several versions of the K3 Utility. 

I am hoping that the programmer of the P3 Utility reads this and fixes the
problem with the code. 

I have received notification that my P3 is about to be shipped, so I need
the Utility to be working on my computer soon. 

Many thanks and 73, 

John, W2GW 

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Re: [Elecraft] P3 Utility (Windows Version 1.3.7.22)

[Oliver Bross]

This is my first contribution to this list, however I have been long time 
"silent" reader of all the posts. This time I decided to reply as an IT 
Professional I have developed strong " allergy " against Norton product line. 

I do run my own successful business here, providing professional IT business 
services to a lot of different companies. One, very unpleasant thing I have to 
always deal with is "Norton". We have setup a rule here - not to help anybody 
if they run any kind of Norton antivirus software on their computers. We 
actually consider Norton as one of the biggest viruses out there. 

I have to defend Elecraft position here by saying that there is nothing wrong 
with their P3 Utility, but there is everything wrong with Norton! And yes, 
before you start to "hammer" me here, I do know lots of happy Norton users, but 
I also know many of them which are now even happier with different product. 

John, if you want to do something good to your PC, get rid of your Norton, you 
will be surprised with the extra speed released from your computer and you will 
also get much better protection than Norton can give you with different 
software. 

Elecraft software products are rock solid, and yes, I do use them on PC, Mac as 
well as Linux. 

Good luck. 






Oliver, MW0JRX 

Oliver Bross MBA, MBCS CITP , MACS 
MCITP : Ent Admin, MCTS , MCSE , MCSA 
MW0JRX and OM0ARX 

"The successful organism is the organism that adapts" 



From: "John E. Reiser " < reiserj @ optonline .net> 
To: " Elecraft Reflector" < elecraft @mailman. qth .net> 
Sent: Monday, 23 August, 2010 1:51:35 PM 
Subject: [ Elecraft ] P3 Utility (Windows Version 1.3.7.22) 

Hello Elecrafters , 

I have been trying unsuccessfully to install the P3 Utility (Windows Version 
1.3.7.22). My virus protection program, Norton 360, will not allow it. Norton 
pops up a message that a serious security breach has occurred. Then I'm asked 
to restart my computer. 

I tried the install a couple of times on each of two different computers, one 
running Windows XP , and the other running Vista. The results were exactly the 
same. 

I know, I know, turn off the Norton 360. But hold on a minute, Norton 360 is 
just doing its job Something is wrong with the way the latest P3 Utility is 
coded. Norton 360 has never before objected to any program installations on 
these computers, including several versions of the K3 Utility. 

I am hoping that the programmer of the P3 Utility reads this and fixes the 
problem with the code. 

I have received notification that my P3 is about to be shipped, so I need the 
Utility to be working on my computer soon. 

Many thanks and 73, 

John, W2GW 

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Re: [Elecraft] P3 Utility (Windows Version 1.3.7.22)

[Steve Ellington]

Norton AV is worse than a virus. Just try getting rid of it!

Steve

- Original Message - 
From: "John E. Reiser" 
To: "Elecraft Reflector" 
Sent: Monday, August 23, 2010 8:51 AM
Subject: [Elecraft] P3 Utility (Windows Version 1.3.7.22)


> Hello Elecrafters,
>
> I have been trying unsuccessfully to install the P3 Utility (Windows 
> Version 1.3.7.22).   My virus protection program, Norton 360, will not 
> allow it.  Norton pops up a message that a serious security breach has 
> occurred.  Then I'm asked to restart my computer.
>
> I tried the install a couple of times on each of two different computers, 
> one running Windows XP, and the other running Vista.  The results were 
> exactly the same.
>
> I know, I know, turn off the Norton 360.  But hold on a minute,  Norton 
> 360 is just doing its job  Something is wrong with the way the latest P3 
> Utility is coded.  Norton 360 has never before objected to any program 
> installations on these computers, including several versions of the K3 
> Utility.
>
> I am hoping that the programmer of the P3 Utility reads this and fixes the 
> problem with the code.
>
> I have received notification that my P3 is about to be shipped, so I need 
> the Utility to be working on my computer soon.
>
> Many thanks and 73,
>
> John, W2GW
>
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Re: [Elecraft] P3 Utility (Windows Version 1.3.7.22)

[Dick Dievendorff]

I'm the programmer of the Windows P3 Utility. It was virus scanned before it 
was offered on the Elecraft web site. Yours is the first report of any virus 
report.  Assuming you got the P3 Utility from the Elecraft FTP site or Elecraft 
web site then you are trying to install what I wrote. 

I don't have Norton Antivirus (earlier experiences led me away from it) but 
there are web sites that will scan a suspicious executable with a good number 
of virus detection tools. Perhaps one of those would help you decide who to 
trust here. I could find one, but from a trust standpoint it would be better 
for you to find it yourself or from someone else. 

I don't know what i could change to satisfy your Norton software. 

I can tell you that the P3 Utility includes an FTP client, and in order to do 
its intended function, it must be allowed to contact the Elecraft FTP site in 
order to copy P3 firmware from Elecraft's FTP server to your computer. All the 
Elecraft Utilities (K3, W2, K144XV and P3) include thus function. 

Dick, K6KR


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On Aug 23, 2010, at 5:51 AM, "John E. Reiser"  wrote:

> Hello Elecrafters,
> 
> I have been trying unsuccessfully to install the P3 Utility (Windows Version 
> 1.3.7.22).   My virus protection program, Norton 360, will not allow it.  
> Norton pops up a message that a serious security breach has occurred.  Then 
> I'm asked to restart my computer.
> 
> I tried the install a couple of times on each of two different computers, one 
> running Windows XP, and the other running Vista.  The results were exactly 
> the same.
> 
> I know, I know, turn off the Norton 360.  But hold on a minute,  Norton 360 
> is just doing its job  Something is wrong with the way the latest P3 Utility 
> is coded.  Norton 360 has never before objected to any program installations 
> on these computers, including several versions of the K3 Utility.
> 
> I am hoping that the programmer of the P3 Utility reads this and fixes the 
> problem with the code.
> 
> I have received notification that my P3 is about to be shipped, so I need the 
> Utility to be working on my computer soon.
> 
> Many thanks and 73,
> 
> John, W2GW
> 
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