[Elecraft] K2 10m sensitivity
I have just received a new old K2 here. It has most of the important mods, AtoB upgrade, and is working as well as it can, as best I am able to determine. The alignment is fine, and it puts out OK on all bands. I have not been able to find any posts about the sensitivity on 15m-12m-10m being not so great. On 40m-80m-160m it is what I would expect. 20m it's just OK with wider filters, but there is plenty of internal noise with the narrower filters. I don't have a microvolt source to get a precise reading. But with a 5 el yagi on 10m, band noise completely covers internal noise on my Yaesu. On the K2, I can hear the band noise, but the internal noise is rather more than I like. Even strong signals don't move the S meter much, and that is after I have tweaked the settings, and adjusted the AGC threshold. I know audio filtering will help with this. I also did the mod to increase the gain of the RF preamp. I wonder if anyone else sees the 10m sensitivity as a problem? Is there perhaps a wider bandwidth transistor to use in place of the 2n5109? NH7O __ Elecraft mailing list Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm Post: mailto:Elecraft@mailman.qth.net This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html
[Elecraft] K3 general coverage RX with KBPF3
how is the sensivity with KBPF3 for RX outside of HAM bands? Is KBPF3 (and KFL3A-6K) a good invest or is a better way to buy a special radio for BCR RX (eg. like Perseus or PMSDR)? __ Elecraft mailing list Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm Post: mailto:Elecraft@mailman.qth.net This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html
[Elecraft] K3 Board Re-seating Guidelines
I'm having a couple of interrmittent K3 problems, both of which have lead to suggestions of reseating the boards. The oldest problem is the VFO A lockup that an early warranty trip back to Elecraft came back with problem not found, probably cured by FedEx jostling on the way. That has occasionally re-appeared, but a new problem (intermittent hum related to mic/headphone connection to MK2R+ interface) has started up. Is there a document or any instructions on disassembly/board reseating? I didn't build the K3, I've Googled and search Elecraft.com. The K3 Assembly Manual doesn't seem to cover it, I've found guides for installing the DSP board and some AF stage upgrade guides that have disassembly instructions for those particular actions but wondering if there is a reseating guide floating around out there somewhere. Thanks, John K3TN -- View this message in context: http://elecraft.365791.n2.nabble.com/K3-Board-Re-seating-Guidelines-tp6444612p6444612.html Sent from the Elecraft mailing list archive at Nabble.com. __ Elecraft mailing list Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm Post: mailto:Elecraft@mailman.qth.net This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html
Re: [Elecraft] KX3 vs. K3 and other rigs?
More to the point, and maybe I'm missing something very obvious, wouldn't having as good a receiver as possible be nothing but good for portable, compromise antenna operation? I mean, wouldn't you want your receiver to do as much with the available radio energy as possible, especially when you have to make compromises on antennas? Also, Can't work 'em if you can't hear 'em eems to apply here. What good is a bigger signal if you can't hear who's hearing you? I, for one, am really looking forward to seeing the KX3. Pedestrian portable is very appealing to me, especially since I can't stick my rig in the car (because I don't have one...a car, I mean). -- Buddy Brannan, KB5ELV - Erie, PA Phone: (814) 860-3194 or 888-75-BUDDY On Jun 6, 2011, at 12:37 AM, Wayne Burdick wrote: John, You can also think of the KX3 as a full-featured (if ultra-compact) desktop radio, with a full 100 W if you add the external amp. Hence the excellent receiver performance :) 73, Wayne N6KR On Jun 5, 2011, at 9:25 PM, juergen wrote: Hi Kristinn What i dont get is why people expect so much performance from a so called portable rig. A rig designed for portable operation generally uses poor antennas and is optimized for weight, size and battery life. While its nice having great receiver specifications, you do have to be realistic about the real world requirements that is placed on the receiver when operating portable. For me battery life, convenience and power output are very important requirements rather than world beating receiver specifications. I would gladly have 30 watts output over ultimate receiver performance. Most military manpacks run 20 to 30 watts for good reasons. 10 watts and a wire in the tree type of operation does not demand a receiver with 100db of IMD dynamic range. If the KX3 does deliver incredible receiver performance for a bargain price I wont say NO, however I can live with lesser receiver performance when operating with marginal antennas. What I would prefer to see is an antenna tuner that will tune a 9 to 13 ft whip on all bands, or alternatively a end fed wire on all bands. A low noise figure receiver is important when using short portable antennas. We all waiting for the KX3 tech specs with baited breath. Time will tell whether we will get a 10,000 dollar contest radio that fits into the palm of your hand! After all my years of operating, I have yet to have my DC receiver overload on 40 meters when operating portable with full size low dipoles. 73 John --- On Sun, 6/5/11, TF3KX kristi...@gmail.com wrote: From: TF3KX kristi...@gmail.com Subject: [Elecraft] KX3 vs. K3 and other rigs? To: elecraft@mailman.qth.net Date: Sunday, June 5, 2011, 8:49 PM I am watching the KX3 evolution with great interest. It appears to bear lots of resemblance to the K3, but it is not clear to me where these two will differ. Or, for that matter, how the KX3 will compare against some of the other rigs around today. Is there any place that shows, or can someone list up, the primary differences between, say, KX3 and K3? Not only in terms of technical specs (IMD, etc.), but also the internal structure (both with similar RF/DSP architecture?), features, etc.? 73 - Kristinn, TF3KX ..proud maker and owner of K2 #6425 -- View this message in context: http://elecraft.365791.n2.nabble.com/KX3-vs-K3-and-other-rigs-tp6443819p6443819.html Sent from the Elecraft mailing list archive at Nabble.com. __ Elecraft mailing list Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm Post: mailto:Elecraft@mailman.qth.net This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html __ Elecraft mailing list Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm Post: mailto:Elecraft@mailman.qth.net This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html __ Elecraft mailing list Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm Post: mailto:Elecraft@mailman.qth.net This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html __ Elecraft mailing list Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm Post: mailto:Elecraft@mailman.qth.net This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html
Re: [Elecraft] KX3 vs. K3 and other rigs?
The KX3 will be just what I need, for my kayak, marine mobile ;-) http://vk4djc.webs.com/apps/photos/album?albumid=11608735 73, Jack VK4JRC On Mon, Jun 6, 2011 at 9:21 PM, Buddy Brannan bu...@brannan.name wrote: More to the point, and maybe I'm missing something very obvious, wouldn't having as good a receiver as possible be nothing but good for portable, compromise antenna operation? I mean, wouldn't you want your receiver to do as much with the available radio energy as possible, especially when you have to make compromises on antennas? Also, Can't work 'em if you can't hear 'em eems to apply here. What good is a bigger signal if you can't hear who's hearing you? I, for one, am really looking forward to seeing the KX3. Pedestrian portable is very appealing to me, especially since I can't stick my rig in the car (because I don't have one...a car, I mean). -- Buddy Brannan, KB5ELV - Erie, PA Phone: (814) 860-3194 or 888-75-BUDDY On Jun 6, 2011, at 12:37 AM, Wayne Burdick wrote: John, You can also think of the KX3 as a full-featured (if ultra-compact) desktop radio, with a full 100 W if you add the external amp. Hence the excellent receiver performance :) 73, Wayne N6KR On Jun 5, 2011, at 9:25 PM, juergen wrote: Hi Kristinn What i dont get is why people expect so much performance from a so called portable rig. A rig designed for portable operation generally uses poor antennas and is optimized for weight, size and battery life. While its nice having great receiver specifications, you do have to be realistic about the real world requirements that is placed on the receiver when operating portable. For me battery life, convenience and power output are very important requirements rather than world beating receiver specifications. I would gladly have 30 watts output over ultimate receiver performance. Most military manpacks run 20 to 30 watts for good reasons. 10 watts and a wire in the tree type of operation does not demand a receiver with 100db of IMD dynamic range. If the KX3 does deliver incredible receiver performance for a bargain price I wont say NO, however I can live with lesser receiver performance when operating with marginal antennas. What I would prefer to see is an antenna tuner that will tune a 9 to 13 ft whip on all bands, or alternatively a end fed wire on all bands. A low noise figure receiver is important when using short portable antennas. We all waiting for the KX3 tech specs with baited breath. Time will tell whether we will get a 10,000 dollar contest radio that fits into the palm of your hand! After all my years of operating, I have yet to have my DC receiver overload on 40 meters when operating portable with full size low dipoles. 73 John --- On Sun, 6/5/11, TF3KX kristi...@gmail.com wrote: From: TF3KX kristi...@gmail.com Subject: [Elecraft] KX3 vs. K3 and other rigs? To: elecraft@mailman.qth.net Date: Sunday, June 5, 2011, 8:49 PM I am watching the KX3 evolution with great interest. It appears to bear lots of resemblance to the K3, but it is not clear to me where these two will differ. Or, for that matter, how the KX3 will compare against some of the other rigs around today. Is there any place that shows, or can someone list up, the primary differences between, say, KX3 and K3? Not only in terms of technical specs (IMD, etc.), but also the internal structure (both with similar RF/DSP architecture?), features, etc.? 73 - Kristinn, TF3KX ..proud maker and owner of K2 #6425 -- View this message in context: http://elecraft.365791.n2.nabble.com/KX3-vs-K3-and-other-rigs-tp6443819p6443819.html Sent from the Elecraft mailing list archive at Nabble.com. __ Elecraft mailing list Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm Post: mailto:Elecraft@mailman.qth.net This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html __ Elecraft mailing list Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm Post: mailto:Elecraft@mailman.qth.net This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html __ Elecraft mailing list Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm Post: mailto:Elecraft@mailman.qth.net This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html __ Elecraft mailing list Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft
[Elecraft] Re K2 10m sensitivity
My K2 has 0.1uV sensitivity for 10 dB signal to noise on 10m with pre-amp on, or 0.16uV with pre-amp off. The K2 has quite low gain compared to many radios and often needs the pre-amp switched in for the higher bands, also have you checked the alignment? There are various tables of measurements on my web site at: http://www.astromag.co.uk/k2/ 73 Dave, G4AON K2 #1892, K3 #80 I have not been able to find any posts about the sensitivity on 15m-12m-10m being not so great. On 40m-80m-160m it is what I would expect. 20m it's just OK with wider filters, but there is plenty of internal noise with the narrower filters. __ Elecraft mailing list Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm Post: mailto:Elecraft@mailman.qth.net This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html
Re: [Elecraft] KX3 vs. K3 and other rigs?
I think part of the problem when discussing 'good receiver performance' is in the definition. In a trail friendly radio I expect a receiver that is able create a readable signal with a very inefficient antenna. To me a TFR doesn't have to worry so much about blocking locally produced strong signals. I wouldn't expect a TFR to do well as well as a K3 at a multi-transmitter contest site such as Field Day. Mark AD5SS On Mon, Jun 6, 2011 at 6:21 AM, Buddy Brannan bu...@brannan.name wrote: More to the point, and maybe I'm missing something very obvious, wouldn't having as good a receiver as possible be nothing but good for portable, compromise antenna operation? I mean, wouldn't you want your receiver to do as much with the available radio energy as possible, especially when you have to make compromises on antennas? Also, Can't work 'em if you can't hear 'em eems to apply here. What good is a bigger signal if you can't hear who's hearing you? I, for one, am really looking forward to seeing the KX3. Pedestrian portable is very appealing to me, especially since I can't stick my rig in the car (because I don't have one...a car, I mean). -- Buddy Brannan, KB5ELV - Erie, PA Phone: (814) 860-3194 or 888-75-BUDDY On Jun 6, 2011, at 12:37 AM, Wayne Burdick wrote: John, You can also think of the KX3 as a full-featured (if ultra-compact) desktop radio, with a full 100 W if you add the external amp. Hence the excellent receiver performance :) 73, Wayne N6KR On Jun 5, 2011, at 9:25 PM, juergen wrote: Hi Kristinn What i dont get is why people expect so much performance from a so called portable rig. A rig designed for portable operation generally uses poor antennas and is optimized for weight, size and battery life. While its nice having great receiver specifications, you do have to be realistic about the real world requirements that is placed on the receiver when operating portable. For me battery life, convenience and power output are very important requirements rather than world beating receiver specifications. I would gladly have 30 watts output over ultimate receiver performance. Most military manpacks run 20 to 30 watts for good reasons. 10 watts and a wire in the tree type of operation does not demand a receiver with 100db of IMD dynamic range. If the KX3 does deliver incredible receiver performance for a bargain price I wont say NO, however I can live with lesser receiver performance when operating with marginal antennas. What I would prefer to see is an antenna tuner that will tune a 9 to 13 ft whip on all bands, or alternatively a end fed wire on all bands. A low noise figure receiver is important when using short portable antennas. We all waiting for the KX3 tech specs with baited breath. Time will tell whether we will get a 10,000 dollar contest radio that fits into the palm of your hand! After all my years of operating, I have yet to have my DC receiver overload on 40 meters when operating portable with full size low dipoles. 73 John --- On Sun, 6/5/11, TF3KX kristi...@gmail.com wrote: From: TF3KX kristi...@gmail.com Subject: [Elecraft] KX3 vs. K3 and other rigs? To: elecraft@mailman.qth.net Date: Sunday, June 5, 2011, 8:49 PM I am watching the KX3 evolution with great interest. It appears to bear lots of resemblance to the K3, but it is not clear to me where these two will differ. Or, for that matter, how the KX3 will compare against some of the other rigs around today. Is there any place that shows, or can someone list up, the primary differences between, say, KX3 and K3? Not only in terms of technical specs (IMD, etc.), but also the internal structure (both with similar RF/DSP architecture?), features, etc.? 73 - Kristinn, TF3KX ..proud maker and owner of K2 #6425 -- View this message in context: http://elecraft.365791.n2.nabble.com/KX3-vs-K3-and-other-rigs-tp6443819p6443819.html Sent from the Elecraft mailing list archive at Nabble.com. __ Elecraft mailing list Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm Post: mailto:Elecraft@mailman.qth.net This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html __ Elecraft mailing list Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm Post: mailto:Elecraft@mailman.qth.net This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html __ Elecraft mailing list Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm Post: mailto:Elecraft@mailman.qth.net This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net Please help support this email
Re: [Elecraft] K3 general coverage RX with KBPF3
My K3 has around 10 dB worse image rejection when operating outside the ham bands with a KBPF3. Sensitivity is mostly OK except when using the main (TX) antenna socket were the sensitivity drops off below 1 MHz and is about 20 dB less sensitive on 500 KHz. If you use the KXV3 transverter interface the sensitivity isn't reduced. I also have a Perseus, which is really good but of course requires a computer. If you are seriously into broadcast band listening the Perseus offers the neat trick of allowing you to record 1600 KHz chunks of frequency to replay later, which means you can record the whole of long and medium wave overnight and listen the following day. 73 Dave, G4AON -- how is the sensivity with KBPF3 for RX outside of HAM bands? Is KBPF3 (and KFL3A-6K) a good invest or is a better way to buy a special radio for BCR RX (eg. like Perseus or PMSDR)? __ Elecraft mailing list Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm Post: mailto:Elecraft@mailman.qth.net This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html
Re: [Elecraft] K2 10m sensitivity
The 10 meter sensitivity of the K2 is normally quite good. I would suggest checking the tuning of the bandpass filters. When tuning the bandpass filters, remember that they are shared by 2 bands, and you must tune the inductors first, and after that, tune the capacitors. Do 10 meters first, then 12 meters -- do 15 meters first and after than do 17 meters. Set the K2 power to 2 watts, connect a dummy load and adjust the proper bandpass filter element for a peak in the power output. If the power increases dramatically, exit tune and then re-enter to drop the starting power back down to the 2 watt level. After adjusting the bandpass filters to a peak during a transmit (or tune), they are properly tuned for receive too. You will need to buy or borrow a calibrated signal generator to make any definitive measurements of the sensitivity. It is difficult to make a judgement based on antenna noise alone without some instrumentation. The Elecraft XG3 is a great tool to do exactly that - it has controlled output levels and can be used to make MDS measurements, and you can use it to properly set your S-meter. 73, Don W3FPR On 6/6/2011 3:36 AM, Alastair Couper wrote: I have just received a new old K2 here. It has most of the important mods, AtoB upgrade, and is working as well as it can, as best I am able to determine. The alignment is fine, and it puts out OK on all bands. I have not been able to find any posts about the sensitivity on 15m-12m-10m being not so great. On 40m-80m-160m it is what I would expect. 20m it's just OK with wider filters, but there is plenty of internal noise with the narrower filters. I don't have a microvolt source to get a precise reading. But with a 5 el yagi on 10m, band noise completely covers internal noise on my Yaesu. On the K2, I can hear the band noise, but the internal noise is rather more than I like. Even strong signals don't move the S meter much, and that is after I have tweaked the settings, and adjusted the AGC threshold. I know audio filtering will help with this. I also did the mod to increase the gain of the RF preamp. I wonder if anyone else sees the 10m sensitivity as a problem? Is there perhaps a wider bandwidth transistor to use in place of the 2n5109? __ Elecraft mailing list Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm Post: mailto:Elecraft@mailman.qth.net This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html
Re: [Elecraft] K3 Board Re-seating Guidelines
John, There is nothing specific to re-seating. If you use the existing board assembly steps in reverse, then put it back together again, you will have accomplished the re-seating. Normally, you do not have to re-seat all the connectors - just the ones involved in the problem, and it normally involves the DSP and Front Panel boards. The replacement steps for the upgraded DSP board should have all the information needed to do that task. 73, Don W3FPR On 6/6/2011 6:46 AM, John K3TN wrote: I'm having a couple of interrmittent K3 problems, both of which have lead to suggestions of reseating the boards. The oldest problem is the VFO A lockup that an early warranty trip back to Elecraft came back with problem not found, probably cured by FedEx jostling on the way. That has occasionally re-appeared, but a new problem (intermittent hum related to mic/headphone connection to MK2R+ interface) has started up. Is there a document or any instructions on disassembly/board reseating? I didn't build the K3, I've Googled and search Elecraft.com. The K3 Assembly Manual doesn't seem to cover it, I've found guides for installing the DSP board and some AF stage upgrade guides that have disassembly instructions for those particular actions but wondering if there is a reseating guide floating around out there somewhere. __ Elecraft mailing list Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm Post: mailto:Elecraft@mailman.qth.net This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html
Re: [Elecraft] KX3 vs. K3 and other rigs?
Here are a couple of additional factors to consider. 1. Increasing the output power to 20 or 30 watts would have an impact on either the weight of the KX3 (more batteries needed to maintain a desired battery life) or the battery life (the existing batteries would not last as long at the higher power level). 2. It is much easier to add an external power amplifier, if desired, than to significantly improve receiver performance at a later date. 73, Dave, KQ3T On 6/6/2011 12:25 AM, juergen wrote: Hi Kristinn What i dont get is why people expect so much performance from a so called portable rig. A rig designed for portable operation generally uses poor antennas and is optimized for weight, size and battery life. While its nice having great receiver specifications, you do have to be realistic about the real world requirements that is placed on the receiver when operating portable. For me battery life, convenience and power output are very important requirements rather than world beating receiver specifications. I would gladly have 30 watts output over ultimate receiver performance. Most military manpacks run 20 to 30 watts for good reasons. 10 watts and a wire in the tree type of operation does not demand a receiver with 100db of IMD dynamic range. If the KX3 does deliver incredible receiver performance for a bargain price I wont say NO, however I can live with lesser receiver performance when operating with marginal antennas. What I would prefer to see is an antenna tuner that will tune a 9 to 13 ft whip on all bands, or alternatively a end fed wire on all bands. A low noise figure receiver is important when using short portable antennas. We all waiting for the KX3 tech specs with baited breath. Time will tell whether we will get a 10,000 dollar contest radio that fits into the palm of your hand! After all my years of operating, I have yet to have my DC receiver overload on 40 meters when operating portable with full size low dipoles. 73 John __ Elecraft mailing list Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm Post: mailto:Elecraft@mailman.qth.net This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html
[Elecraft] P3 Fixed Tune Mode
I think this is a very good idea. My preference of course would be if the window on the P3 would track/scroll as you move the VFO, keeping the VFO frequency centered, a la Icom. I realize that this would mess up the waterfall... So dont allow it when using the waterfall or a split spectrum/waterfall display! Just allow it when the unit displays only the spectrum display. The difficult thing would be to manage the fonts and the graticule... I dont know if there is enough processing power in the P3 MCU to deal with this. I would also like to add my vote for the ability to monitor my transmitted signal (without having to unplug the serial port) on the P3 display. But most of all, I would like to see a factory approved modification that would allow me to place the P3 on the IF output of my KRX3 so that I could monitor another band, say 10 meters, for signals while working a run on, for example, 20 meters. This output could be switchable from the K3 panel (Main RX/Sub RX). An even NEATER trick would be to split the screen to two displays, one the spectrum of the main, the other the spectrum of the sub. I would even accept a 50% screen refresh penalty for this feature, sort of like the spectrum display works on Orion. Knowing when the second band has signals on it without the cluster... *THAT* would really be a terrific thing to me! Lu Romero - W4LT K3 # 3192, (P3 wrapped up as a Fathers Day present from the family). -- Date: Sun, 5 Jun 2011 12:47:13 -0700 (PDT) From: Mike K2MK k...@comcast.net Subject: [Elecraft] P3 Fixed Tune Mode To: elecraft@mailman.qth.net Message-ID: 1307303233287-6443027.p...@n2.nabble.com Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii In my limited use of my P3 I have found that I prefer to use the Fixed Tune Mode. I also prefer to spin the VFO dial to a signal rather than using the markers and the push button. Maybe this will change later. But what I have noticed is that all too often, the signal of interest is at the extreme left or right screen edge. I would prefer if the screen changeover would occur 1 or 2 KHz before the VFO cursor reaches the screen edge. And I would like my VFO cursor to be 1 or 2 KHz away from the edge after the screen refreshes. Is this of interest to anyone else. 73, Mike K2MK __ Elecraft mailing list Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm Post: mailto:Elecraft@mailman.qth.net This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html
Re: [Elecraft] And/Or Options
Wayne, If a VHF option is possible, but would require some substitution, is it possible to have it be an alternative to the internal battery option instead of the ATU? Maybe I'm in the minority, but to me, the internal ATU is much more valuable than the battery option. External power is much less problematic than a good ATU. I'm pretty sure that, if I had to pick between the ATU and a VHF option, I'd drop the VHF idea. I suppose, though, the ATU wouldn't be operational on VHF anyway, so perhaps that is why you suggest it as the alternative option? Dave W7AQK === Email scanned by PC Tools - No viruses or spyware found. (Email Guard: 7.0.0.18, Virus/Spyware Database: 6.17670) http://www.pctools.com/ === __ Elecraft mailing list Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm Post: mailto:Elecraft@mailman.qth.net This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html
[Elecraft] Wanted: MH2 Hand Mic
Ladies Gents: Does anyone have an Elecraft MH2 hand mic that they would like to part with? If so, please contact me directly at blocked::mailto:ingerassocia...@verizon.net ingerassocia...@verizon.net. 73 de K6SBA David in Santa Barbara, CA __ Elecraft mailing list Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm Post: mailto:Elecraft@mailman.qth.net This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html
Re: [Elecraft] P3 Fixed Tune Mode
Lu, Isn't tracking the VFO the way the P3 works when in Tracking mode ? Am I misunderstanding you? BTW, the split screen with inputs from both receivers is a great idea! Rick K6LE On 6/6/2011, at 7:07 , Lu Romero wrote: My preference of course would be if the window on the P3 would track/scroll as you move the VFO, keeping the VFO frequency centered, a la Icom. I realize that this would mess up the waterfall... So dont allow it when using the waterfall or a split spectrum/waterfall display! Just allow it when the unit displays only the spectrum display. The difficult thing would be to manage the fonts and the graticule... I dont know if there is enough processing power in the P3 MCU to deal with this. __ Elecraft mailing list Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm Post: mailto:Elecraft@mailman.qth.net This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html
Re: [Elecraft] KPA500 Kits
Has anyone received a kit or shipping confirmation on kits? The website says they would be shipping last week. __ Elecraft mailing list Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm Post: mailto:Elecraft@mailman.qth.net This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html
Re: [Elecraft] KX3 vs. K3 and other rigs?
I will start by stating that the Texas DX Society has found the Kenwood TS-480 to have a receiver that is adequate for DXpedition and Field Day work. As contest director of TDXS I am in complete agreement with this finding. I know only what has been published on this forum about the KX3 which leads me to believe that the KX3 will probably have a better receiver than the TS-480 and approach that of the K3. The architecture of the KX3 promises to be a good deal more flexible that the TS-480 with a control head and remote transceiver. The TS-480 is not in the picture for a back pack operation. My opinion is that the KX3 will be a great winner if it equals the TS-480 because it is more flexible. If it is as good as the K3, that is even better. If any design team is capable of K3 performance in a flexible package, it is Wayne, Eric, et. al. and I am eager to see how they come out. They are very brave to give us the preliminary peek we now have and I am eager to see the final product, but not so eager that I want them to release it before they are ready. Willis 'Cookie' Cooke K5EWJ Trustee N5BPS, USS Cavalla, USS Stewart __ Elecraft mailing list Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm Post: mailto:Elecraft@mailman.qth.net This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html
Re: [Elecraft] And/Or Options
This is exactly correct! A bad (i.e. incapable) ATU is useless, and for mobile, at least, external power is not a problem. Even using the radio as a BPS (backpacker's special) it is much less problematic to carry a small external battery pack than an external ATU. You can use the battery pack to keep your electric socks warm while waiting for sunspots... John Ragle -- W1ZI On 6/6/2011 10:31 AM, David Yarnes wrote: [snip] ...If a VHF option is possible, but would require some substitution, is it possible to have it be an alternative to the internal battery option instead of the ATU? Maybe I'm in the minority, but to me, the internal ATU is much more valuable than the battery option. External power is much less problematic than a good ATU... __ Elecraft mailing list Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm Post: mailto:Elecraft@mailman.qth.net This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html
Re: [Elecraft] KX3 vs. K3 and other rigs?
Hi Dave The point you make about the added complexity is valid. However from a communications effectiveness point of 20 watts is a much more realistic power level, especially for SSB QSO's. Most of the Mil Manpacks use this output power level. I operate portable using mil HF manpacks with the power varying between 20 and 30 watts. I also have a SGC2020. 95% of the time on the first call I can get through and have the standard cookie cutter qso's and move on. If you try and do the same with 10 watts its very frustrating and much more of a struggle. These are NA Q's not local stuff. 5 to 10 watts is good power level for CW. For SSB 20 watts is far more effective, even with simple whips. Everyone will say its only 3db, however that 3db makes a huge difference when using simple antennas especially on SSB. While the AMP might be the answer, looking at the projected images and size, it will be a huge hassle carrying another box around. If you consider the size of Yaesu FT857, which runs a full 100 watts of output and its design is very neatly integrated into a tiny package, the KX3 with an external amplifier will be awkward by comparison. A FT857 with some AA batteries was carried to the top of Mount Kilimanjaro by HB9BXE. The operator successfully had many qso at 20 watts of output. He probably would not have packed a KX3 and amplifier if it was available then. I dont see why a duplicate of the KX3's PA could mot be offered as a piggy back box with another set of 8 batteries. I would rather follow that option than the 100 watt linear option. It certainly would be a lot smaller and portable than the 100 watt PA. I am sure many homebrewers will explore this option. Anyway time will tell. There is always the hombrew/modification option. The KX3 has a lot of potential and the design is 98% there. 73 John --- On Mon, 6/6/11, Dave KQ3T k...@comcast.net wrote: From: Dave KQ3T k...@comcast.net Subject: Re: [Elecraft] KX3 vs. K3 and other rigs? To: elecraft@mailman.qth.net Date: Monday, June 6, 2011, 6:40 AM Here are a couple of additional factors to consider. 1. Increasing the output power to 20 or 30 watts would have an impact on either the weight of the KX3 (more batteries needed to maintain a desired battery life) or the battery life (the existing batteries would not last as long at the higher power level). 2. It is much easier to add an external power amplifier, if desired, than to significantly improve receiver performance at a later date. 73, Dave, KQ3T On 6/6/2011 12:25 AM, juergen wrote: Hi Kristinn What i dont get is why people expect so much performance from a so called portable rig. A rig designed for portable operation generally uses poor antennas and is optimized for weight, size and battery life. While its nice having great receiver specifications, you do have to be realistic about the real world requirements that is placed on the receiver when operating portable. For me battery life, convenience and power output are very important requirements rather than world beating receiver specifications. I would gladly have 30 watts output over ultimate receiver performance. Most military manpacks run 20 to 30 watts for good reasons. 10 watts and a wire in the tree type of operation does not demand a receiver with 100db of IMD dynamic range. If the KX3 does deliver incredible receiver performance for a bargain price I wont say NO, however I can live with lesser receiver performance when operating with marginal antennas. What I would prefer to see is an antenna tuner that will tune a 9 to 13 ft whip on all bands, or alternatively a end fed wire on all bands. A low noise figure receiver is important when using short portable antennas. We all waiting for the KX3 tech specs with baited breath. Time will tell whether we will get a 10,000 dollar contest radio that fits into the palm of your hand! After all my years of operating, I have yet to have my DC receiver overload on 40 meters when operating portable with full size low dipoles. 73 John __ Elecraft mailing list Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm Post: mailto:Elecraft@mailman.qth.net This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html __ Elecraft mailing list Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm Post: mailto:Elecraft@mailman.qth.net This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html
Re: [Elecraft] KX3 vs. K3 and other rigs?
Back in the late '60's I helped develope and test the first RACAL military SSB Manpack (basically 3-8 Mhz). It used an flexible tape whip approcimately 10ft long. This was end loaded using a permeability tuned circuit internal to the rig. Although it worked well, I don't believe there is enough room in the KX3 for such a circuit. Also, the antenna was mounted directly on the face-plate to minimize losses (Hah!) I'm pretty sure the PCB mounted antenna socket on the KX3 (a guess!) would not be able to take the stress. As for if your can't hear them... etc., my K2 could hear the rare DX but, with my low backyard dipole, most of the time I couldn't work them... but it was still a thrill to be able to hear them. My best qrp SSB dx (to date) with 5W + dipole is Beijing on 20M. Just dumb luck Grin 73 to all. :-) -- Dave G KK7SS DN06ig Richland, WA '59 Morris Minor 1000 '65 Sprite - in process '76 Midget - shared with my #4 son. '06 Honda Civic Hybrid __ Elecraft mailing list Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm Post: mailto:Elecraft@mailman.qth.net This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html
Re: [Elecraft] And/Or Options
The KXAT3 will have the same matching range as the KAT3. The only difference is the power-handling capability, and the use of latching relays so RX-mode current drain is zero when not actually tuning the L- network. 73, Wayne N6KR On Jun 6, 2011, at 7:57 AM, John Ragle wrote: This is exactly correct! A bad (i.e. incapable) ATU is useless, and for mobile, at least, external power is not a problem. Even using the radio as a BPS (backpacker's special) it is much less problematic to carry a small external battery pack than an external ATU. You can use the battery pack to keep your electric socks warm while waiting for sunspots... John Ragle -- W1ZI On 6/6/2011 10:31 AM, David Yarnes wrote: [snip] ...If a VHF option is possible, but would require some substitution, is it possible to have it be an alternative to the internal battery option instead of the ATU? Maybe I'm in the minority, but to me, the internal ATU is much more valuable than the battery option. External power is much less problematic than a good ATU... __ Elecraft mailing list Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm Post: mailto:Elecraft@mailman.qth.net This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html __ Elecraft mailing list Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm Post: mailto:Elecraft@mailman.qth.net This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html
Re: [Elecraft] KX3 vs. K3 and other rigs?
We could offer a KXPA30 amplifier to deal with the need for more power in a much smaller size. But not anytime soon 73, Wayne N6KR On Jun 6, 2011, at 8:10 AM, juergen wrote: Hi Dave The point you make about the added complexity is valid. However from a communications effectiveness point of 20 watts is a much more realistic power level, especially for SSB QSO's. Most of the Mil Manpacks use this output power level. I operate portable using mil HF manpacks with the power varying between 20 and 30 watts. I also have a SGC2020. 95% of the time on the first call I can get through and have the standard cookie cutter qso's and move on. If you try and do the same with 10 watts its very frustrating and much more of a struggle. These are NA Q's not local stuff. 5 to 10 watts is good power level for CW. For SSB 20 watts is far more effective, even with simple whips. Everyone will say its only 3db, however that 3db makes a huge difference when using simple antennas especially on SSB. While the AMP might be the answer, looking at the projected images and size, it will be a huge hassle carrying another box around. If you consider the size of Yaesu FT857, which runs a full 100 watts of output and its design is very neatly integrated into a tiny package, the KX3 with an external amplifier will be awkward by comparison. A FT857 with some AA batteries was carried to the top of Mount Kilimanjaro by HB9BXE. The operator successfully had many qso at 20 watts of output. He probably would not have packed a KX3 and amplifier if it was available then. I dont see why a duplicate of the KX3's PA could mot be offered as a piggy back box with another set of 8 batteries. I would rather follow that option than the 100 watt linear option. It certainly would be a lot smaller and portable than the 100 watt PA. I am sure many homebrewers will explore this option. Anyway time will tell. There is always the hombrew/modification option. The KX3 has a lot of potential and the design is 98% there. 73 John --- On Mon, 6/6/11, Dave KQ3T k...@comcast.net wrote: From: Dave KQ3T k...@comcast.net Subject: Re: [Elecraft] KX3 vs. K3 and other rigs? To: elecraft@mailman.qth.net Date: Monday, June 6, 2011, 6:40 AM Here are a couple of additional factors to consider. 1. Increasing the output power to 20 or 30 watts would have an impact on either the weight of the KX3 (more batteries needed to maintain a desired battery life) or the battery life (the existing batteries would not last as long at the higher power level). 2. It is much easier to add an external power amplifier, if desired, than to significantly improve receiver performance at a later date. 73, Dave, KQ3T On 6/6/2011 12:25 AM, juergen wrote: Hi Kristinn What i dont get is why people expect so much performance from a so called portable rig. A rig designed for portable operation generally uses poor antennas and is optimized for weight, size and battery life. While its nice having great receiver specifications, you do have to be realistic about the real world requirements that is placed on the receiver when operating portable. For me battery life, convenience and power output are very important requirements rather than world beating receiver specifications. I would gladly have 30 watts output over ultimate receiver performance. Most military manpacks run 20 to 30 watts for good reasons. 10 watts and a wire in the tree type of operation does not demand a receiver with 100db of IMD dynamic range. If the KX3 does deliver incredible receiver performance for a bargain price I wont say NO, however I can live with lesser receiver performance when operating with marginal antennas. What I would prefer to see is an antenna tuner that will tune a 9 to 13 ft whip on all bands, or alternatively a end fed wire on all bands. A low noise figure receiver is important when using short portable antennas. We all waiting for the KX3 tech specs with baited breath. Time will tell whether we will get a 10,000 dollar contest radio that fits into the palm of your hand! After all my years of operating, I have yet to have my DC receiver overload on 40 meters when operating portable with full size low dipoles. 73 John __ Elecraft mailing list Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm Post: mailto:Elecraft@mailman.qth.net This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html __ Elecraft mailing list Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm Post: mailto:Elecraft@mailman.qth.net This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net Please help support this email list:
Re: [Elecraft] KPA500 Kits
I don't think anyone has received a kit or even shipping confirmation. I really wish Elecraft would give a realistic ship date instead of stringing us along. I don't mind waiting, I waited 5 months for my K3, just tell me a realistic date. I ordered my kit early the first day that they were offered and no word yet. Eric, just throw mine in your bag and bring it to Hamcom, I'll meet you at the Elecraft booth on Friday. :) Rob NV5E Date: Mon, 6 Jun 2011 08:38:18 -0600 From: w...@w0mu.com To: elecraft@mailman.qth.net Subject: Re: [Elecraft] KPA500 Kits Has anyone received a kit or shipping confirmation on kits? The website says they would be shipping last week. __ Elecraft mailing list Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm Post: mailto:Elecraft@mailman.qth.net This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html __ Elecraft mailing list Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm Post: mailto:Elecraft@mailman.qth.net This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html
[Elecraft] KX3 - power output?
If my 5W isn't quite up to the job, then I switch in my Version 1 HF Packer Amp (~35W max). It's small (3x3x6), simple and the extra 'kick' usually helps. Of course, the boost in power out needs a proportional boost in power supply! -- Dave G KK7SS DN06ig Richland, WA '59 Morris Minor 1000 '65 Sprite - in process '76 Midget - shared with my #4 son. '06 Honda Civic Hybrid __ Elecraft mailing list Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm Post: mailto:Elecraft@mailman.qth.net This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html
Re: [Elecraft] KX3 vs. K3 and other rigs?
Wayne, Don't forget the KXPA200 for the car! 73, Stephen G4SJP On 6 June 2011 16:26, Wayne Burdick n...@elecraft.com wrote: We could offer a KXPA30 amplifier to deal with the need for more power in a much smaller size. But not anytime soon 73, Wayne N6KR On Jun 6, 2011, at 8:10 AM, juergen wrote: Hi Dave The point you make about the added complexity is valid. However from a communications effectiveness point of 20 watts is a much more realistic power level, especially for SSB QSO's. Most of the Mil Manpacks use this output power level. I operate portable using mil HF manpacks with the power varying between 20 and 30 watts. I also have a SGC2020. 95% of the time on the first call I can get through and have the standard cookie cutter qso's and move on. If you try and do the same with 10 watts its very frustrating and much more of a struggle. These are NA Q's not local stuff. 5 to 10 watts is good power level for CW. For SSB 20 watts is far more effective, even with simple whips. Everyone will say its only 3db, however that 3db makes a huge difference when using simple antennas especially on SSB. While the AMP might be the answer, looking at the projected images and size, it will be a huge hassle carrying another box around. If you consider the size of Yaesu FT857, which runs a full 100 watts of output and its design is very neatly integrated into a tiny package, the KX3 with an external amplifier will be awkward by comparison. A FT857 with some AA batteries was carried to the top of Mount Kilimanjaro by HB9BXE. The operator successfully had many qso at 20 watts of output. He probably would not have packed a KX3 and amplifier if it was available then. I dont see why a duplicate of the KX3's PA could mot be offered as a piggy back box with another set of 8 batteries. I would rather follow that option than the 100 watt linear option. It certainly would be a lot smaller and portable than the 100 watt PA. I am sure many homebrewers will explore this option. Anyway time will tell. There is always the hombrew/modification option. The KX3 has a lot of potential and the design is 98% there. 73 John --- On Mon, 6/6/11, Dave KQ3T k...@comcast.net wrote: From: Dave KQ3T k...@comcast.net Subject: Re: [Elecraft] KX3 vs. K3 and other rigs? To: elecraft@mailman.qth.net Date: Monday, June 6, 2011, 6:40 AM Here are a couple of additional factors to consider. 1. Increasing the output power to 20 or 30 watts would have an impact on either the weight of the KX3 (more batteries needed to maintain a desired battery life) or the battery life (the existing batteries would not last as long at the higher power level). 2. It is much easier to add an external power amplifier, if desired, than to significantly improve receiver performance at a later date. 73, Dave, KQ3T On 6/6/2011 12:25 AM, juergen wrote: Hi Kristinn What i dont get is why people expect so much performance from a so called portable rig. A rig designed for portable operation generally uses poor antennas and is optimized for weight, size and battery life. While its nice having great receiver specifications, you do have to be realistic about the real world requirements that is placed on the receiver when operating portable. For me battery life, convenience and power output are very important requirements rather than world beating receiver specifications. I would gladly have 30 watts output over ultimate receiver performance. Most military manpacks run 20 to 30 watts for good reasons. 10 watts and a wire in the tree type of operation does not demand a receiver with 100db of IMD dynamic range. If the KX3 does deliver incredible receiver performance for a bargain price I wont say NO, however I can live with lesser receiver performance when operating with marginal antennas. What I would prefer to see is an antenna tuner that will tune a 9 to 13 ft whip on all bands, or alternatively a end fed wire on all bands. A low noise figure receiver is important when using short portable antennas. We all waiting for the KX3 tech specs with baited breath. Time will tell whether we will get a 10,000 dollar contest radio that fits into the palm of your hand! After all my years of operating, I have yet to have my DC receiver overload on 40 meters when operating portable with full size low dipoles. 73 John __ Elecraft mailing list Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm Post: mailto:Elecraft@mailman.qth.net This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html __ Elecraft mailing list
Re: [Elecraft] KX3 vs. K3 and other rigs?
On Mon, 2011-06-06 at 07:28 -0500, Mark Bayern wrote: ...a trail friendly radio ... doesn't have to worry so much about blocking locally produced strong signals. I wouldn't expect a TFR to do well as well as a K3 at a multi-transmitter contest site such as Field Day. But I think Field Day would be a prime application for the KX3. A bullet-proof front end and a low-phase-noise transmitter are essential when you have antennas spaced close together like on a FD site. Also, I suspect a lot of people are going to use the KX3 for their fixed station as well. It would make a great starter rig for a new ham or as a second rig for an old timer. Alan N1AL __ Elecraft mailing list Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm Post: mailto:Elecraft@mailman.qth.net This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html
[Elecraft] KX3 - 5Mhz question
Will the KX3 5Mhz operation be tuneable or channelised (to allow for the vagaries of the FCC!) If channelised I assume (yes, I know what it means!) it will be software controlled and thus upgradeable if amateur priviledges are changed g Dave G. KK7SS DN06ijRichland, WA __ Elecraft mailing list Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm Post: mailto:Elecraft@mailman.qth.net This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html
Re: [Elecraft] KX3 vs. K3 and other rigs?
On Mon, 2011-06-06 at 08:10 -0700, juergen wrote: However from a communications effectiveness point of 20 watts is a much more realistic power level, especially for SSB QSO's. The difference between 10 and 20 watts is only 3 dB, half an S-unit. Compared to the 20-30 dB of QSB you often find on the HF bands, you would hardly even notice such a small difference. I think it is quite rare that 3 dB would be the difference between making a contact or not. Alan N1AL __ Elecraft mailing list Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm Post: mailto:Elecraft@mailman.qth.net This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html
Re: [Elecraft] KX3 - 5Mhz question
Fully configurable in software. Wayne N6KR On Jun 6, 2011, at 8:56 AM, Dave KK7SS wrote: Will the KX3 5Mhz operation be tuneable or channelised (to allow for the vagaries of the FCC!) If channelised I assume (yes, I know what it means!) it will be software controlled and thus upgradeable if amateur priviledges are changed g Dave G. KK7SS DN06ijRichland, WA __ Elecraft mailing list Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm Post: mailto:Elecraft@mailman.qth.net This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html __ Elecraft mailing list Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm Post: mailto:Elecraft@mailman.qth.net This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html
Re: [Elecraft] KPA500 Kits
Great idea, Rob! (Hamcom delivery) If this is possible, count me in, too. (order confirmed 4-8) 73, Bob K5SM On 6/6/2011 10:27 AM, Rob May wrote: I don't think anyone has received a kit or even shipping confirmation. I really wish Elecraft would give a realistic ship date instead of stringing us along. I don't mind waiting, I waited 5 months for my K3, just tell me a realistic date. I ordered my kit early the first day that they were offered and no word yet. Eric, just throw mine in your bag and bring it to Hamcom, I'll meet you at the Elecraft booth on Friday. :) Rob NV5E Date: Mon, 6 Jun 2011 08:38:18 -0600 From: w...@w0mu.com To: elecraft@mailman.qth.net Subject: Re: [Elecraft] KPA500 Kits Has anyone received a kit or shipping confirmation on kits? The website says they would be shipping last week. __ Elecraft mailing list Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm Post: mailto:Elecraft@mailman.qth.net This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html __ Elecraft mailing list Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm Post: mailto:Elecraft@mailman.qth.net This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html __ Elecraft mailing list Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm Post: mailto:Elecraft@mailman.qth.net This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html
Re: [Elecraft] KPA500 Kits
My order was confirmed about 6 minutes after the order book opened and I have heard nothing yet, so don't get your hopes up.:-) 73, Ken K3IU On 6/6/2011 12:14 PM, Robert Redmon wrote: Great idea, Rob! (Hamcom delivery) If this is possible, count me in, too. (order confirmed 4-8) 73, Bob K5SM On 6/6/2011 10:27 AM, Rob May wrote: I don't think anyone has received a kit or even shipping confirmation. I really wish Elecraft would give a realistic ship date instead of stringing us along. I don't mind waiting, I waited 5 months for my K3, just tell me a realistic date. I ordered my kit early the first day that they were offered and no word yet. Eric, just throw mine in your bag and bring it to Hamcom, I'll meet you at the Elecraft booth on Friday. :) Rob NV5E Date: Mon, 6 Jun 2011 08:38:18 -0600 From: w...@w0mu.com To: elecraft@mailman.qth.net Subject: Re: [Elecraft] KPA500 Kits Has anyone received a kit or shipping confirmation on kits? The website says they would be shipping last week. __ Elecraft mailing list Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm Post: mailto:Elecraft@mailman.qth.net This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html __ Elecraft mailing list Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm Post: mailto:Elecraft@mailman.qth.net This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html __ Elecraft mailing list Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm Post: mailto:Elecraft@mailman.qth.net This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html __ Elecraft mailing list Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm Post: mailto:Elecraft@mailman.qth.net This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html
Re: [Elecraft] KPA500 Kits
I suspect the delay is the printing of the assembly manual. When you see the word PRELIMINARY removed from the manual at the link below you will start seeing them ship. That's just my opinion, I could be wrong. http://www.elecraft.com/manual/Prelim%20KPA500%20Kit%20Assembly%20Manual.pdf 73, Tom Amateur Radio Operator N5GE On Mon, 6 Jun 2011 10:27:53 -0500, Rob May roblitesp...@hotmail.com wrote: I don't think anyone has received a kit or even shipping confirmation. I really wish Elecraft would give a realistic ship date instead of stringing us along. I don't mind waiting, I waited 5 months for my K3, just tell me a realistic date. I ordered my kit early the first day that they were offered and no word yet. Eric, just throw mine in your bag and bring it to Hamcom, I'll meet you at the Elecraft booth on Friday. :) Rob NV5E [snip] __ Elecraft mailing list Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm Post: mailto:Elecraft@mailman.qth.net This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html
Re: [Elecraft] Elecraft Digest, Vol 86, Issue 14
Yay! Make it bolt to the underside of the KX3 with a cavity for a skookum battery of our choice and you've got an instant winner for tactical SSB. An effective ATU would need to be part of the design; something that would tune a modest-size whip. I still maintain that 10W - even with speech compression - is not enough for SSB. Part of the problem is that many 'home base' stations suffer from high manmade noise levels. Operating portable in the bush with a hot receiver it may seem like they should be able to copy us because their 100W signal is S9, but if their noise is S8 and the bush radio is only 10W ... Practical tests communicating between bush camp and home consistently proved that 10W CW was clear copy every night, but SSB was hit and miss. 25 watts would have made all the difference. I would have been totally happy with cw, except the other hams in my family are morse-challenged. Nathon VE7ETS --- We could offer a KXPA30 amplifier to deal with the need for more power in a much smaller size. But not anytime soon 73, Wayne N6KR --- __ Elecraft mailing list Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm Post: mailto:Elecraft@mailman.qth.net This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html
Re: [Elecraft] KPA500 Kits
The first kits went out to field testers last week (or so). They're now providing feedback on the assembly-from-kit experience (we saw W0YK's report). One might speculate that the final manual printing is awaiting incorporation of that feedback. or perhaps they'll just include errata with the kits that ship to the rest of us... ~iain / N6ML On Mon, Jun 6, 2011 at 9:31 AM, n...@n5ge.com wrote: I suspect the delay is the printing of the assembly manual. When you see the word PRELIMINARY removed from the manual at the link below you will start seeing them ship. That's just my opinion, I could be wrong. http://www.elecraft.com/manual/Prelim%20KPA500%20Kit%20Assembly%20Manual.pdf 73, Tom Amateur Radio Operator N5GE On Mon, 6 Jun 2011 10:27:53 -0500, Rob May roblitesp...@hotmail.com wrote: I don't think anyone has received a kit or even shipping confirmation. I really wish Elecraft would give a realistic ship date instead of stringing us along. I don't mind waiting, I waited 5 months for my K3, just tell me a realistic date. I ordered my kit early the first day that they were offered and no word yet. Eric, just throw mine in your bag and bring it to Hamcom, I'll meet you at the Elecraft booth on Friday. :) Rob NV5E [snip] __ Elecraft mailing list Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm Post: mailto:Elecraft@mailman.qth.net This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html __ Elecraft mailing list Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm Post: mailto:Elecraft@mailman.qth.net This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html
Re: [Elecraft] KX3 vs. K3 and other rigs?
All, The improvement in communications effectiveness of 20 watts verses 10 watts is valid - much more than the 3 dB increase in power would seem to suggest. I have seen the same results as with my SG-2020 as was mentioned below. Part of the effectiveness of that particular radio is the VOGAD speech processor as well. A similar algorithm for the KX3 speech process might be something to consider later. A small 30W PA with antenna tuner that would mount to the back of the KX3 would be simply amazing. Include a larger rechargeable battery pack and it probably couldn't get much better - IMHO 73 Gene K1NR K2 6Kxx On Mon, 6 Jun 2011 08:26:14 -0700 Wayne Burdick n...@elecraft.com wrote: We could offer a KXPA30 amplifier to deal with the need for more power in a much smaller size. But not anytime soon 73, Wayne N6KR On Jun 6, 2011, at 8:10 AM, juergen wrote: Hi Dave The point you make about the added complexity is valid. However from a communications effectiveness point of 20 watts is a much more realistic power level, especially for SSB QSO's. Most of the Mil Manpacks use this output power level. I operate portable using mil HF manpacks with the power varying between 20 and 30 watts. I also have a SGC2020. 95% of the time on the first call I can get through and have the standard cookie cutter qso's and move on. If you try and do the same with 10 watts its very frustrating and much more of a struggle. These are NA Q's not local stuff. 5 to 10 watts is good power level for CW. For SSB 20 watts is far more effective, even with simple whips. Everyone will say its only 3db, however that 3db makes a huge difference when using simple antennas especially on SSB. While the AMP might be the answer, looking at the projected images and size, it will be a huge hassle carrying another box around. If you consider the size of Yaesu FT857, which runs a full 100 watts of output and its design is very neatly integrated into a tiny package, the KX3 with an external amplifier will be awkward by comparison. A FT857 with some AA batteries was carried to the top of Mount Kilimanjaro by HB9BXE. The operator successfully had many qso at 20 watts of output. He probably would not have packed a KX3 and amplifier if it was available then. I dont see why a duplicate of the KX3's PA could mot be offered as a piggy back box with another set of 8 batteries. I would rather follow that option than the 100 watt linear option. It certainly would be a lot smaller and portable than the 100 watt PA. I am sure many homebrewers will explore this option. Anyway time will tell. There is always the hombrew/modification option. The KX3 has a lot of potential and the design is 98% there. 73 John --- On Mon, 6/6/11, Dave KQ3T k...@comcast.net wrote: From: Dave KQ3T k...@comcast.net Subject: Re: [Elecraft] KX3 vs. K3 and other rigs? To: elecraft@mailman.qth.net Date: Monday, June 6, 2011, 6:40 AM Here are a couple of additional factors to consider. 1. Increasing the output power to 20 or 30 watts would have an impact on either the weight of the KX3 (more batteries needed to maintain a desired battery life) or the battery life (the existing batteries would not last as long at the higher power level). 2. It is much easier to add an external power amplifier, if desired, than to significantly improve receiver performance at a later date. 73, Dave, KQ3T On 6/6/2011 12:25 AM, juergen wrote: Hi Kristinn What i dont get is why people expect so much performance from a so called portable rig. A rig designed for portable operation generally uses poor antennas and is optimized for weight, size and battery life. While its nice having great receiver specifications, you do have to be realistic about the real world requirements that is placed on the receiver when operating portable. For me battery life, convenience and power output are very important requirements rather than world beating receiver specifications. I would gladly have 30 watts output over ultimate receiver performance. Most military manpacks run 20 to 30 watts for good reasons. 10 watts and a wire in the tree type of operation does not demand a receiver with 100db of IMD dynamic range. If the KX3 does deliver incredible receiver performance for a bargain price I wont say NO, however I can live with lesser receiver performance when operating with marginal antennas. What I would prefer to see is an antenna tuner that will tune a 9 to 13 ft whip on all bands, or alternatively a end fed wire on all bands. A low noise figure receiver is important when using short portable antennas. We all waiting for the KX3 tech specs with baited breath. Time will tell whether we will get a
Re: [Elecraft] Elecraft Digest, Vol 86, Issue 14
Practical tests communicating between bush camp and home consistently proved that 10W CW was clear copy every night, but SSB was hit and miss. 25 watts would have made all the difference. I would have been totally happy with cw, except the other hams in my family are morse- challenged. My QTH has many disadvantages (noise, low antenna, wrong part of the country, etc.). But I still make lots of contacts at 10 W. I think we have to draw a distinction between guaranteed communications and adequate, sometimes edgy communications. The KX3 represents a compromise between portability and output power, putting it into the latter category. Yes, you may have to move to slightly higher ground or call three times rather than once, but IMHO this is part of the fun. 73, Wayne N6KR __ Elecraft mailing list Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm Post: mailto:Elecraft@mailman.qth.net This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html
Re: [Elecraft] KX3 vs. K3 and other rigs?
Effective speech processing will be a given. A 30-W PA is purely hypothetical at this point. Just to save a lot more postings on this subject: The KX3 will be limited to 10 watts PEP in its basic form. 73, Wayne N6KR On Jun 6, 2011, at 9:42 AM, Eugene Balinski wrote: All, The improvement in communications effectiveness of 20 watts verses 10 watts is valid - much more than the 3 dB increase in power would seem to suggest. I have seen the same results as with my SG-2020 as was mentioned below. Part of the effectiveness of that particular radio is the VOGAD speech processor as well. A similar algorithm for the KX3 speech process might be something to consider later. A small 30W PA with antenna tuner that would mount to the back of the KX3 would be simply amazing. Include a larger rechargeable battery pack and it probably couldn't get much better - IMHO 73 Gene K1NR K2 6Kxx On Mon, 6 Jun 2011 08:26:14 -0700 Wayne Burdick n...@elecraft.com wrote: We could offer a KXPA30 amplifier to deal with the need for more power in a much smaller size. But not anytime soon 73, Wayne N6KR On Jun 6, 2011, at 8:10 AM, juergen wrote: Hi Dave The point you make about the added complexity is valid. However from a communications effectiveness point of 20 watts is a much more realistic power level, especially for SSB QSO's. Most of the Mil Manpacks use this output power level. I operate portable using mil HF manpacks with the power varying between 20 and 30 watts. I also have a SGC2020. 95% of the time on the first call I can get through and have the standard cookie cutter qso's and move on. If you try and do the same with 10 watts its very frustrating and much more of a struggle. These are NA Q's not local stuff. 5 to 10 watts is good power level for CW. For SSB 20 watts is far more effective, even with simple whips. Everyone will say its only 3db, however that 3db makes a huge difference when using simple antennas especially on SSB. While the AMP might be the answer, looking at the projected images and size, it will be a huge hassle carrying another box around. If you consider the size of Yaesu FT857, which runs a full 100 watts of output and its design is very neatly integrated into a tiny package, the KX3 with an external amplifier will be awkward by comparison. A FT857 with some AA batteries was carried to the top of Mount Kilimanjaro by HB9BXE. The operator successfully had many qso at 20 watts of output. He probably would not have packed a KX3 and amplifier if it was available then. I dont see why a duplicate of the KX3's PA could mot be offered as a piggy back box with another set of 8 batteries. I would rather follow that option than the 100 watt linear option. It certainly would be a lot smaller and portable than the 100 watt PA. I am sure many homebrewers will explore this option. Anyway time will tell. There is always the hombrew/modification option. The KX3 has a lot of potential and the design is 98% there. 73 John --- On Mon, 6/6/11, Dave KQ3T k...@comcast.net wrote: From: Dave KQ3T k...@comcast.net Subject: Re: [Elecraft] KX3 vs. K3 and other rigs? To: elecraft@mailman.qth.net Date: Monday, June 6, 2011, 6:40 AM Here are a couple of additional factors to consider. 1. Increasing the output power to 20 or 30 watts would have an impact on either the weight of the KX3 (more batteries needed to maintain a desired battery life) or the battery life (the existing batteries would not last as long at the higher power level). 2. It is much easier to add an external power amplifier, if desired, than to significantly improve receiver performance at a later date. 73, Dave, KQ3T On 6/6/2011 12:25 AM, juergen wrote: Hi Kristinn What i dont get is why people expect so much performance from a so called portable rig. A rig designed for portable operation generally uses poor antennas and is optimized for weight, size and battery life. While its nice having great receiver specifications, you do have to be realistic about the real world requirements that is placed on the receiver when operating portable. For me battery life, convenience and power output are very important requirements rather than world beating receiver specifications. I would gladly have 30 watts output over ultimate receiver performance. Most military manpacks run 20 to 30 watts for good reasons. 10 watts and a wire in the tree type of operation does not demand a receiver with 100db of IMD dynamic range. If the KX3 does deliver incredible receiver performance for a bargain price I wont say NO, however I can live with lesser receiver performance when operating with marginal antennas. What I would prefer to see is an antenna tuner that will tune a 9 to 13 ft whip on all bands, or alternatively a end fed wire on all bands. A low noise figure receiver is important when
Re: [Elecraft] KPA500 Kits
On 6/6/2011 8:27 AM, Rob May wrote: I don't think anyone has received a kit or even shipping confirmation. I really wish Elecraft would give a realistic ship date instead of stringing us along. Elecraft is a small company -- they are my neighbors, including some of their employees. They have always had the top priority of doing it right. From what I can see by watching this reflector, they're currently making sure that the building instructions make sense by having a few folks close to them build a kit from the instructions and re-writing as needed. I'm waiting for a kit, and I'm happy to know that it will be right when I get it. 73, Jim K9YC __ Elecraft mailing list Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm Post: mailto:Elecraft@mailman.qth.net This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html
[Elecraft] K3: defective ant.relay?
My K3 (ser.no. 2994) has suddenly started behaving strangely: When CW-keyed by N1MM (and sometime also by Logger 32's CW-machine, but not as often!) the TX goes br (TX interrupted 100 times/second). Now lately, the RX seems to go dead (no signal in) until I activate the key. Do I have dirty ant-relay contacts? Must the relay be changed? Rick OZ5RM __ Elecraft mailing list Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm Post: mailto:Elecraft@mailman.qth.net This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html
Re: [Elecraft] KX3 vs. K3 and other rigs?
I know many a contest station that would and have spent $1000's for an extra 3db. There must to a reason. Keith, K5ENS -- View this message in context: http://elecraft.365791.n2.nabble.com/KX3-vs-K3-and-other-rigs-tp6443819p6446308.html Sent from the Elecraft mailing list archive at Nabble.com. __ Elecraft mailing list Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm Post: mailto:Elecraft@mailman.qth.net This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html
Re: [Elecraft] KPA500 Kits
Jim, I agree with you, I'd rather have it right than right now. But it's easy to put an update on the shipping status page saying that delivery is delayed. It could be a supplier issue or correcting the manual or just being overwhelmed with orders. No problem at all, like I said, I waited 5 months for the K3. It's not the delay, it's not the not knowing that I mind. Rob NV5E Date: Mon, 6 Jun 2011 10:41:25 -0700 From: j...@audiosystemsgroup.com To: elecraft@mailman.qth.net Subject: Re: [Elecraft] KPA500 Kits On 6/6/2011 8:27 AM, Rob May wrote: I don't think anyone has received a kit or even shipping confirmation. I really wish Elecraft would give a realistic ship date instead of stringing us along. Elecraft is a small company -- they are my neighbors, including some of their employees. They have always had the top priority of doing it right. From what I can see by watching this reflector, they're currently making sure that the building instructions make sense by having a few folks close to them build a kit from the instructions and re-writing as needed. I'm waiting for a kit, and I'm happy to know that it will be right when I get it. 73, Jim K9YC __ Elecraft mailing list Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm Post: mailto:Elecraft@mailman.qth.net This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html __ Elecraft mailing list Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm Post: mailto:Elecraft@mailman.qth.net This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html
Re: [Elecraft] KPA500 Kits
I was sent an email after my last inquiry that kits would be shipping last week. They didn't say they were just going out to field testers though. I also don't mind waiting for them to make sure everything is right. A bit more communication in the way of shipping updates would be helpful. On 6/6/2011 12:35 PM, Rob May wrote: Jim, I agree with you, I'd rather have it right than right now. But it's easy to put an update on the shipping status page saying that delivery is delayed. It could be a supplier issue or correcting the manual or just being overwhelmed with orders. No problem at all, like I said, I waited 5 months for the K3. It's not the delay, it's not the not knowing that I mind. Rob NV5E Date: Mon, 6 Jun 2011 10:41:25 -0700 From: j...@audiosystemsgroup.com To: elecraft@mailman.qth.net Subject: Re: [Elecraft] KPA500 Kits On 6/6/2011 8:27 AM, Rob May wrote: I don't think anyone has received a kit or even shipping confirmation. I really wish Elecraft would give a realistic ship date instead of stringing us along. Elecraft is a small company -- they are my neighbors, including some of their employees. They have always had the top priority of doing it right. From what I can see by watching this reflector, they're currently making sure that the building instructions make sense by having a few folks close to them build a kit from the instructions and re-writing as needed. I'm waiting for a kit, and I'm happy to know that it will be right when I get it. 73, Jim K9YC __ Elecraft mailing list Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm Post: mailto:Elecraft@mailman.qth.net This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html __ Elecraft mailing list Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm Post: mailto:Elecraft@mailman.qth.net This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html __ Elecraft mailing list Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm Post: mailto:Elecraft@mailman.qth.net This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html
[Elecraft] K2/GATO
To anyone interested plug my call WT5Y into QRZ.COM scroll to the bottom and check out the Elecraft K2/GATO aboard the Cavalla. __ Elecraft mailing list Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm Post: mailto:Elecraft@mailman.qth.net This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html
Re: [Elecraft] KX3 LO injection
On 2011-06-02 1:25 AM, Julian, G4ILO wrote: Dave KK7SS wrote: Just thought I'd ask, as there are two common ways to do it: One is to shift the filter passband and the other is to adjust the LO injection frequency. My IC7200 had the 'hiss' problem. Using IF shift would reduce it but would also tend to muffle the audio. Didn't like that. :( But shifting the LO injection frequency would worsen the carrier suppression. I used to spend a lot of time fiddling with analog rigs trying to do the same thing. Got it sounding nice, then noticed that when I keyed the mic the output meter was showing a reading even though there was no modulation. :( I run my K3 in SSB with the filter centered on 1.4kHz and it sounds great to me. - Julian, G4ILO. K2 #392 K3 #222. I suspect the KX3 will use the equivalent of the so-called phasing method of SSB generation (but digitally, in DSP software). I don't think there will be a xtal filter like in the older analog radios, so the carrier suppression shouldn't change. All of the filtering (except perhaps for the baseband roofing filter) will probably be via DSP. Eventually, the Elecraft guys will give us more details of the radio design so we can eliminate the guesswork. Keep clam, Terry N6RY __ Elecraft mailing list Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm Post: mailto:Elecraft@mailman.qth.net This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html
Re: [Elecraft] KPA500 Kits
All, I would rather not hear anything than have them telling me once a week it will be next week and repeating that each week. It's better to be silent than give out bad information. 73, Tom Amateur Radio Operator N5GE On Mon, 6 Jun 2011 13:35:28 -0500, Rob May roblitesp...@hotmail.com wrote: Jim, I agree with you, I'd rather have it right than right now. But it's easy to put an update on the shipping status page saying that delivery is delayed. It could be a supplier issue or correcting the manual or just being overwhelmed with orders. No problem at all, like I said, I waited 5 months for the K3. It's not the delay, it's not the not knowing that I mind. Rob NV5E [snip] __ Elecraft mailing list Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm Post: mailto:Elecraft@mailman.qth.net This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html
Re: [Elecraft] And/Or Options
I second that. I wish KX3 has both 2m and ATU. I would rather use external batteries then give up ATU. Choosing between ATU and 2m option is going to be pretty difficult. 73, Igor UA9CDC - Original Message - From: David Yarnes w7...@cox.net To: elecraft@mailman.qth.net Sent: Monday, June 06, 2011 8:31 PM Subject: Re: [Elecraft] And/Or Options Wayne, If a VHF option is possible, but would require some substitution, is it possible to have it be an alternative to the internal battery option instead of the ATU? Maybe I'm in the minority, but to me, the internal ATU is much more valuable than the battery option. External power is much less problematic than a good ATU. I'm pretty sure that, if I had to pick between the ATU and a VHF option, I'd drop the VHF idea. I suppose, though, the ATU wouldn't be operational on VHF anyway, so perhaps that is why you suggest it as the alternative option? Dave W7AQK === Email scanned by PC Tools - No viruses or spyware found. (Email Guard: 7.0.0.18, Virus/Spyware Database: 6.17670) http://www.pctools.com/ === __ Elecraft mailing list Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm Post: mailto:Elecraft@mailman.qth.net This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html __ Elecraft mailing list Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm Post: mailto:Elecraft@mailman.qth.net This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html
Re: [Elecraft] KX3 vs. K3 and other rigs?
World-class contest stations are a different animal. If the extra 3 dB adds an extra 0.1% to the contact total, that could easily be the difference between winning and coming in number 2. But for the average ham a 0.1% increase in your total contacts is such a small difference that you would never even notice it. Alan N1AL On Mon, 2011-06-06 at 11:14 -0700, Keith-K5ENS wrote: I know many a contest station that would and have spent $1000's for an extra 3db. There must to a reason. Keith, K5ENS -- View this message in context: http://elecraft.365791.n2.nabble.com/KX3-vs-K3-and-other-rigs-tp6443819p6446308.html Sent from the Elecraft mailing list archive at Nabble.com. __ Elecraft mailing list Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm Post: mailto:Elecraft@mailman.qth.net This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html __ Elecraft mailing list Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm Post: mailto:Elecraft@mailman.qth.net This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html
Re: [Elecraft] KX3 vs. K3 and other rigs?
Agreed. And at that level of competition, operator skill makes a much bigger difference in score than 3 dB of power. Sadly, many who try to compete at that level just don't seem to understand this. Bruce, N1RX World-class contest stations are a different animal. If the extra 3 dB adds an extra 0.1% to the contact total, that could easily be the difference between winning and coming in number 2. But for the average ham a 0.1% increase in your total contacts is such a small difference that you would never even notice it. Alan N1AL On Mon, 2011-06-06 at 11:14 -0700, Keith-K5ENS wrote: I know many a contest station that would and have spent $1000's for an extra 3db. There must to a reason. Keith, K5ENS __ Elecraft mailing list Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm Post: mailto:Elecraft@mailman.qth.net This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html
Re: [Elecraft] KX3 vs. K3 and other rigs?
The KX3 (K3 Extremely Portable is how I think of it) does have 3db of additional power compared to the intended market: 5w QRP portable. The portable QRP market is where Elecrafts' roots lie, after all, so it should be no surprise that the KX3 is aimed at that target. Having an optional external 100w amplifier makes it practical for field day and other mobile operations, too, and perhaps some really constrained home stations where even a small K3 will not fit. On Mon, Jun 6, 2011 at 11:14 AM, Keith-K5ENS ke...@nelasat.com wrote: I know many a contest station that would and have spent $1000's for an extra 3db. There must to a reason. 73, Byron N6NUL - Northern California Contest Club - CU in the 2011 Cal QSO Party 1-2 Oct 2011 - www.cqp.org __ Elecraft mailing list Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm Post: mailto:Elecraft@mailman.qth.net This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html
Re: [Elecraft] KPA500 Kits
Yes, great idea, indeed! Eric, see you at Friedrichshafen! :) Robert Redmon wrote: Great idea, Rob! (Hamcom delivery) If this is possible, count me in, too. (order confirmed 4-8) 73, Bob K5SM On 6/6/2011 10:27 AM, Rob May wrote: Eric, just throw mine in your bag and bring it to Hamcom, I'll meet you at the Elecraft booth on Friday. :) - Richard - HB9ANM -- View this message in context: http://elecraft.365791.n2.nabble.com/KPA500-Kits-Is-today-the-day-tp6425254p6446980.html Sent from the Elecraft mailing list archive at Nabble.com. __ Elecraft mailing list Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm Post: mailto:Elecraft@mailman.qth.net This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html
Re: [Elecraft] KPA500 Kits
Ok, While we're tossing out inducements... Eric or Wayne, Bring my KPA-500 kit to Lobstercon in Brunswick, ME next month. I'll throw in two Maine lobsters and plenty of whatever favorite beverages you prefer... Bruce, N1RX __ Elecraft mailing list Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm Post: mailto:Elecraft@mailman.qth.net This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html
Re: [Elecraft] KPA500 Kits
Me too - same time, same place, more lobster, more beverage - saves travel! Ok, While we're tossing out inducements... Eric or Wayne, Bring my KPA-500 kit to Lobstercon in Brunswick, ME next month. I'll throw in two Maine lobsters and plenty of whatever favorite beverages you prefer... John VE3NFK (going down to Maine) -- View this message in context: http://elecraft.365791.n2.nabble.com/KPA500-Kits-Is-today-the-day-tp6425254p6447189.html Sent from the Elecraft mailing list archive at Nabble.com. __ Elecraft mailing list Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm Post: mailto:Elecraft@mailman.qth.net This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html
Re: [Elecraft] KPA500 Kits
... I'd rather have it right than right now... Absolutely!!! But you 6m types will have to put up with my 100w from 3500' in the ARRL VHF instead of 500+ watts, so listen a little harder. Next year, eh? Ralph, VE7XF __ Elecraft mailing list Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm Post: mailto:Elecraft@mailman.qth.net This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html
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For a while, I have been trying to add to my library a book on DSP that was mid-way between cookbook and pure theory. Thinking someone else might like to have the reference to a book that I recently found, I am using Elecraft bandwidth to send it: The Scientist and Engineer's Guide to Digital Signal Processing -- ISBN 0-9660176-3-3 -- By Steven W. Smith, Ph.D. The book is available free on the following web site: http://www.dspguide.com/If it interests you, you might want to look at the Chapter headings contained there. Many of the routines (e.g. convolution, sinc, windowed-sinc, deconvolution, etc.) are described in a /pseudo/-BASIC language form, but I have found that they can more easily be worked out in a language like Mathcad, etc. (This observation is probably not worth much for those who have spent big bucks for the signal processing add-ins for the latter.) John Ragle -- W1ZI __ Elecraft mailing list Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm Post: mailto:Elecraft@mailman.qth.net This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html
Re: [Elecraft] (no subject)
Very cool, John, thanks! Tony KT0NY On Mon, Jun 6, 2011 at 5:36 PM, John Ragle tpcj1...@crocker.com wrote: For a while, I have been trying to add to my library a book on DSP that was mid-way between cookbook and pure theory. Thinking someone else might like to have the reference to a book that I recently found, I am using Elecraft bandwidth to send it: The Scientist and Engineer's Guide to Digital Signal Processing -- ISBN 0-9660176-3-3 -- By Steven W. Smith, Ph.D. The book is available free on the following web site: http://www.dspguide.com/If it interests you, you might want to look at the Chapter headings contained there. Many of the routines (e.g. convolution, sinc, windowed-sinc, deconvolution, etc.) are described in a /pseudo/-BASIC language form, but I have found that they can more easily be worked out in a language like Mathcad, etc. (This observation is probably not worth much for those who have spent big bucks for the signal processing add-ins for the latter.) John Ragle -- W1ZI __ Elecraft mailing list Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm Post: mailto:Elecraft@mailman.qth.net This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html -- We don't want every single college grad with mathematical aptitude to become a derivatives trader. -- Barack Obama __ Elecraft mailing list Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm Post: mailto:Elecraft@mailman.qth.net This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html
Re: [Elecraft] And/Or Options
Toting around a T1 not sufficient? ./Ben On Mon, Jun 6, 2011 at 1:18 PM, Igor Sokolov ua9...@gmail.com wrote: I second that. I wish KX3 has both 2m and ATU. I would rather use external batteries then give up ATU. Choosing between ATU and 2m option is going to be pretty difficult. 73, Igor UA9CDC - Original Message - From: David Yarnes w7...@cox.net To: elecraft@mailman.qth.net Sent: Monday, June 06, 2011 8:31 PM Subject: Re: [Elecraft] And/Or Options Wayne, If a VHF option is possible, but would require some substitution, is it possible to have it be an alternative to the internal battery option instead of the ATU? Maybe I'm in the minority, but to me, the internal ATU is much more valuable than the battery option. External power is much less problematic than a good ATU. I'm pretty sure that, if I had to pick between the ATU and a VHF option, I'd drop the VHF idea. I suppose, though, the ATU wouldn't be operational on VHF anyway, so perhaps that is why you suggest it as the alternative option? Dave W7AQK === Email scanned by PC Tools - No viruses or spyware found. (Email Guard: 7.0.0.18, Virus/Spyware Database: 6.17670) http://www.pctools.com/ === __ Elecraft mailing list Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm Post: mailto:Elecraft@mailman.qth.net This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html __ Elecraft mailing list Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm Post: mailto:Elecraft@mailman.qth.net This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html __ Elecraft mailing list Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm Post: mailto:Elecraft@mailman.qth.net This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html
Re: [Elecraft] (no subject)
Another (possibly cheaper) mathematical computation system for doing signal processing is Mathematica by Wolfram. Mathematica is used quite a bit in the academic world for a very wide variety of computational problems. With regarding to signal processing there is support for various types of DSP implementations supporting image processing, sound processing, and RF signal processing. But, a professional version of Mathematica is about $2500 these days. At least, that is what we pay for it at work. I do have my own copy at home, actually two copies, for the At Home edition which costs only $295. Everything I can do on the professional version at work I can do with the At Home edition. There are only a few limitations of the Home Edition of Mathematica and so far I have not run into any of them. The license limits you to one Home edition per computer so I have purchased one copy for my Apple Mac laptop and one copy for my desktop iMac-24. Yes, I use both systems even to do Mathematica stuff. By the way, I also have the professional (or, commercial) license to Matlab which I have used for some contract work a few years ago. I still play around with it from time to time but my first love is Mathematica. I have also played around with Mathcad which although is nice and has some cute features for documentation, it is not anywhere close to the capability of Mathematica. So, at $295, the Mathematica Home Edition is quite a good buy. So, if you want to experiment with Mathematica you might consider the Wolfram Alpha web site at http://www.wolframalpha.com. The command entry window on Alpha will accept most (if not all) Mathematica commands that you can type in. For example, to integrate the six(x) function, just go to Wolfram Alpha and type in: Integrate[Sin[x],x] In the command above, capital letters are important and the use of square brackets [] is important. If you want to play around with some of Wolfram Alpha features, start by typing in your name, just your first name like Phil, Roger, Dick or whatever. 73, phil, K7PEH On Jun 6, 2011, at 3:36 PM, John Ragle wrote: For a while, I have been trying to add to my library a book on DSP that was mid-way between cookbook and pure theory. Thinking someone else might like to have the reference to a book that I recently found, I am using Elecraft bandwidth to send it: The Scientist and Engineer's Guide to Digital Signal Processing -- ISBN 0-9660176-3-3 -- By Steven W. Smith, Ph.D. The book is available free on the following web site: http://www.dspguide.com/If it interests you, you might want to look at the Chapter headings contained there. Many of the routines (e.g. convolution, sinc, windowed-sinc, deconvolution, etc.) are described in a /pseudo/-BASIC language form, but I have found that they can more easily be worked out in a language like Mathcad, etc. (This observation is probably not worth much for those who have spent big bucks for the signal processing add-ins for the latter.) John Ragle -- W1ZI __ Elecraft mailing list Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm Post: mailto:Elecraft@mailman.qth.net This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html __ Elecraft mailing list Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm Post: mailto:Elecraft@mailman.qth.net This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html
Re: [Elecraft] Private sales of used Elecraft Rigs
On 6/3/2011 3:06 PM, Jim Lowman wrote: Recently I ordered a Tablet PC from Amazon, and was surprised that they shipped it via USPS. What I can't figure out is the reason that it's scheduled to take until next Wednesday to get here from the Seattle area. When Amazon has shipped books from Seattle previously, they took two business days to arrive, whether via USPS or UPS. Some shippers are now using a hybrid method where UPS sends the shipment to a regional USPS distribution center and you then get it via USPS. (Forgot the nickname of the service.) The absurd situation that I experienced was that using the UPS Tracking site I tracked a shipment sent on a Union Pacific RR Z-train (hotshot UPS container train) from Los Angeles right through Portland (OR) on the way to the Regional Center in Kent, WA - across the state near Seattle - and then the USPS brought it back to Portland for delivery. Added three days to the shipment versus off-loading the container at UPS Portland and out for delivery the next morning along with all the other UPS stuff destined for Portland on that train. --- 73 de K2ASP - Phil Kane Elecraft K2/100 s/n 5402 From a Clearing in the Silicon Forest Beaverton (Washington County) Oregon __ Elecraft mailing list Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm Post: mailto:Elecraft@mailman.qth.net This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html
[Elecraft] K3: Kit Resistance Value Question
I am building a new K3 kit and doing resistance checks, the book states the resistance value on U12 to ground should be more than 500 ohms, mine checks 349 ohms, is this a problem? U13 to ground is 378 ohms, books states should be greater than 125 ohms, so OK. Joe N9VX __ Elecraft mailing list Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm Post: mailto:Elecraft@mailman.qth.net This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html
Re: [Elecraft] K3: Kit Resistance Value Question
Just heard back from tech support (thought they were closed for the day), the value is OK. Joe N9VX On Mon, Jun 6, 2011 at 9:22 PM, Joe Word joe.n...@gmail.com wrote: I am building a new K3 kit and doing resistance checks, the book states the resistance value on U12 to ground should be more than 500 ohms, mine checks 349 ohms, is this a problem? U13 to ground is 378 ohms, books states should be greater than 125 ohms, so OK. Joe N9VX __ Elecraft mailing list Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm Post: mailto:Elecraft@mailman.qth.net This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html
[Elecraft] Digital Signal Processing, was (no subject)
I hearily endorse Phil's recommendation of Mathematica and MatLab. Both are excellent. Yet another is Maple, but all these are somewhat expensive to purchase, even for home use. If cost is a real consideration (and when is it not?), one can always go with Liberty BASIC or its free version, or PowerBasic, or even Microsoft Visual C++. I have used all of these, but my purpose was not to tout a programming environment, but to recommend the book I mentioned in my first post: http://www.dspguide.com/ You can't beat free...I wish I had had this book in the 70's when I was active in the lab...Oh, for a time machine! John Ragle -- W1ZI = On 6/6/2011 8:45 PM, Phil Hystad wrote: Another (possibly cheaper) mathematical computation system for doing signal processing is Mathematica...I also have the professional (or, commercial) license to Matlab __ Elecraft mailing list Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm Post: mailto:Elecraft@mailman.qth.net This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html
Re: [Elecraft] (no subject)
Octave is an open source alternative to Mathematica. I have found DSP packages for it. The command structure is much like MatLab so those of you fresh from academe will find it familiar. 73, Kevin. KD5ONS On Mon, 06 Jun 2011 17:45:50 -0700, Phil Hystad phys...@mac.com wrote: Another (possibly cheaper) mathematical computation system for doing signal processing is Mathematica by Wolfram. Mathematica is used quite a bit in the academic world for a very wide variety of computational problems. With regarding to signal processing there is support for various types of DSP implementations supporting image processing, sound processing, and RF signal processing. ... 73, phil, K7PEH __ Elecraft mailing list Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm Post: mailto:Elecraft@mailman.qth.net This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html
Re: [Elecraft] Digital Signal Processing, was (no subject)
Wayne has firmly denied any desire to build a TARDIS into any future Elecraft product. I am unsure why. Kevin. KD5ONS On Mon, 06 Jun 2011 18:52:13 -0700, John Ragle tpcj1...@crocker.com wrote: ... http://www.dspguide.com/ You can't beat free...I wish I had had this book in the 70's when I was active in the lab...Oh, for a time machine! John Ragle -- W1ZI __ Elecraft mailing list Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm Post: mailto:Elecraft@mailman.qth.net This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html
Re: [Elecraft] Digital Signal Processing, was (no subject)
Octave is a free nearly equivalent of matlib in terms of programming syntax. 73 - Mike WA8BXN __ Elecraft mailing list Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm Post: mailto:Elecraft@mailman.qth.net This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html
Re: [Elecraft] Digital Signal Processing, was (no subject)
Octave: http://octave.sourceforge.net/ John Ragle -- W1ZI = On 6/6/2011 10:10 PM, Mike WA8BXN wrote: Octave is a free nearly equivalent of matlib in terms of programming syntax. __ Elecraft mailing list Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm Post: mailto:Elecraft@mailman.qth.net This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html
Re: [Elecraft] And/Or Options
Not quite... I see myself taking KX3 with me everywhere (business trips, vacations etc). Carring second box (even that small) is not appealing to me. Level of integration is not the same as with the internal ATU. Besides KX3 will easily pass for general coverage RX at the customs while T1 will require a lot of explanations. 73, Igor UA9CDC Toting around a T1 not sufficient? ./Ben On Mon, Jun 6, 2011 at 1:18 PM, Igor Sokolov ua9...@gmail.com wrote: I second that. I wish KX3 has both 2m and ATU. I would rather use external batteries then give up ATU. Choosing between ATU and 2m option is going to be pretty difficult. 73, Igor UA9CDC __ Elecraft mailing list Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm Post: mailto:Elecraft@mailman.qth.net This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html
Re: [Elecraft] K3: defective ant.relay?
Rick, This usually happens when the cable between the computer and K3 gets some HF. Have you tried some turns on a ferrite ring or a clamp? 73 Val LZ1VB My K3 (ser.no. 2994) has suddenly started behaving strangely: When CW-keyed by N1MM (and sometime also by Logger 32's CW-machine, but not as often!) the TX goes br (TX interrupted 100 times/second). Now lately, the RX seems to go dead (no signal in) until I activate the key. Do I have dirty ant-relay contacts? Must the relay be changed? Rick OZ5RM __ Elecraft mailing list Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm Post: mailto:Elecraft@mailman.qth.net This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html
[Elecraft] Elecraft [K3] Macro Mess
I've read the K3 Programmer's Reference and the K3 Utility (V1.4.4.25) Help. Perhaps a programmer can understand it, but it offers me no step-by-step guide as to how to construct a Macro. So I suppose I'll limit myself to Macros others have written - but I based on the following experience, I have no confidence that I can assign them to a M-Key. I tried to implement a simple Audio Mixer Command, !bed3, that was listed in an October 2009 posting. I edited Macro 1, gave it a name, and wrote it to the K3. I entered the CONFIG Menu and selected Macro. I pressed 1, and the then the M3 key to assign it to the M3 Key. When I pressed the M3 Key, the name I'd assigned to the Macro was displayed, but the Macro did not execute. I could execute it from the K3 Utility, but not from the M3 Key. A subsequent READ MACROS FROM K3 showed that !bed3 was assigned to the Name I'd used for MACRO 1 I know the Audio Mixer functionality is now on the CONFIG Menu and this exercise was unnecessary, but I wanted to try something that was simple. I'd sure like to know what I did wrong? I doubt my ability to assign ANY Macro to an M-Key. Further, I have no DVR and tapping any of the M1-4 buttons returns NO DVR. The K3 Utility Help says to restore standard memory recording functions to tap the REC Key followed by the M-Key to be restored. The only way I could restore my M3 Key to returning a NO DVR Message was to send Blank Macro named NO DVR and then assigning that to the M3 Key. I would expect the restoration procedure to have done this. I have little confidence that getting the message to coincide with the other M-Keys makes that Key behave as the others. Also, several times after I'd written the Macro to the K3, the K3 MAIN Audio was muted. The S-Meter read full scale, and there was no audio. Cycling power restored operation but it was an unpleasant occurrence. 73 * Dave, W9ZRX __ Elecraft mailing list Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm Post: mailto:Elecraft@mailman.qth.net This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html