[Elecraft] Elecraft CW Net Announcement
Good Evening, The first snow of the year is starting to melt. It was odd to see so many leaves showing through the snow today. Many of the trees had not yet changed color let alone lost their leaves. What a very strange year for weather. No summer to speak of and then a swift descent into winter. In fifteen years on this mountain I have never seen it snow this early. The first killing frost and the first snow storm coincided. Propagation, on the other hand, has been great. The occasional blast from the sun to raise the noise levels but we are repaid with a recharged ionosphere and better propagation once the noise settles down. It is fun to jump up to ten meters and check out where in the world I can hear. It is funny to listen to a local station work a DX station and have them both at the same signal strength. Please join us tomorrow afternoon and evening. 1) Hail signs (first letter or two of the suffix of your call) 2) NCS help (as well as QSP/QNP help) Sunday 2300z (Sunday 3 PM PST) 14050 kHz Monday 0100z (Sunday 5 PM PST) 7045 kHz Stay well, Kevin. KD5ONS - __ Elecraft mailing list Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm Post: mailto:Elecraft@mailman.qth.net This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html
Re: [Elecraft] US 60 Meter Band Changes Approved by FCC - CW Issues
For those rigs with fixed memory channels on 60 m, it might make sense to use a keyed audio oscillator in SSB mode. Bob, N7XY On Nov 19, 2011, at 2:51 PM, Matthew Pitts wrote: > Don, > > You're right, for transceivers that implement the 60 meter band in the VFO; > not all compatible transceivers do. My FT-817 has 5 memory channels for 60m, > thus not much chance for me ever using the new modes on it; I guess I'll have > to add the 60m module to my K2 for that. > > Matthew Pitts > N8OHU > > Sent from my Wireless Device > > -Original Message- > From: Don Wilhelm > Sender: elecraft-boun...@mailman.qth.net > Date: Sat, 19 Nov 2011 17:44:41 > To: > Reply-To: d...@w3fpr.com > Subject: Re: [Elecraft] US 60 Meter Band Changes Approved by FCC - CW Issues > > Mike, > > Not all transceivers shift the transmit frequency. > > The Elecraft K2 and K3 dial always indicate the carrier frequency, and > what is displayed does not change when changing modes. With Elecraft, > the pitch of signals will change when changing between CW and SSB. > > OTOH, my Yaesu transceivers do shift the displayed frequency when > changing between SSB and CW, but they shift the receiver - the display > will indicate the transmitted carrier frequency. If you were receiving > a signal in SSB mode and shift to CW, the pitch will stay the same. > > With either Elecraft or Yaesu, there is nothing complicated to figure > out - set the displayed frequency to the center channel frequency - but > with the Yaesu, one must do that AFTER setting to CW mode. With the > Elecraft gear, you can set the frequency in whichever mode you choose, > then switch to CW. > > 73, > Don W3FPR > > On 11/19/2011 4:47 PM, Mike Morrow wrote: >> The point to be taken is that most HAM transceivers, when the emission >> mode is changed from USB to CW, shift either the effective receive or >> the transmit frequency by the desired amount of sidetone frequency. >> They don't shift both the effective receive AND the transmit >> frequency. For example, a transceiver tuned to 5357.0 kHz on the dial >> in USB mode will produce a zero Hz AF output when receiving a >> transmitted signal of 5357.0 kHz, and a 1500 Hz AF output when >> receiving a transmitted signal of 5358.5 kHz. When the transceiver is >> shifted to CW mode, the receiver frequency typically remains 5357.0 >> kHz, while the transmitter frequency is shifted up to typically 5357.8 >> kHz (for 800 Hz CW sidetone). But the new FCC rules require that the >> CW transmit frequency be 5358.5 kHz, which will produce an undesirably >> high side tone to any USB/CW mode receiver set to 5357.0 kHz. If you >> are in a USB phone QSO on 5357.0 kHz, anyone sending a CW signal on >> that channel must do that using 5358.5 kHz. The phone boys will hear >> not the typically 800 Hz sidetone, but rather a high 1500 Hz sidetone! > __ > Elecraft mailing list > Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft > Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm > Post: mailto:Elecraft@mailman.qth.net > > This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net > Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html > __ > Elecraft mailing list > Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft > Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm > Post: mailto:Elecraft@mailman.qth.net > > This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net > Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html _ N7XY DX Cluster Node - telnet to n7xy.net, port 7300 __ Elecraft mailing list Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm Post: mailto:Elecraft@mailman.qth.net This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html
Re: [Elecraft] US 60 Meter Band Changes Approved by FCC - CW Issues
When the dust settles on this change, and we have some agreement on how the transceiver should handle it, we'll make any needed changes to both the K3 and KX3 firmware. I'd like to be the first to make a CW QSO on this band! 73, Wayne N6KR __ Elecraft mailing list Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm Post: mailto:Elecraft@mailman.qth.net This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html
Re: [Elecraft] US 60 Meter Band Changes Approved by FCC - CW Issues
As usual with the government and all the "ABC" agencies, there are some bureaucrats who think they "know" but really "Don't" know or have a clue. Too bad it's that way, but unfortunately, we, the end users have to roll with the punches. Hopefully no one screws up and pops the "big bubble" for all. Same thing has been going on concerning the Coast Guard and the "600 meters" allocations to be! It's like a bunch of 3rd graders in a sand box! 73, Sandy W5TVW -Original Message- From: Phil Kane Sent: Saturday, November 19, 2011 5:18 PM To: elecraft@mailman.qth.net Subject: Re: [Elecraft] US 60 Meter Band Changes Approved by FCC - CW Issues On 11/19/2011 12:55 PM, Sandy wrote: > If the FCC engineers want to hear a 1.5 khz tone, that's THEIR > problem, not ours. Maybe there will be some "simple simon" type > doing any monitoring and he will have a "reference" frequency of > 8881500 hz. plus or minus what ever the "tolerances" are in PPM. This anomaly isn't the FCC's doing - it's NTIA's doing. It's their band, their channels, and they are calling the shots. We're lucky to get any 60 meters at all. I'm intimately familiar with how that worked. -- 73 de K2ASP - Phil Kane Elecraft K2/100 s/n 5402 (FCC District Director - Retired) __ Elecraft mailing list Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm Post: mailto:Elecraft@mailman.qth.net This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html - No virus found in this message. Checked by AVG - www.avg.com Version: 2012.0.1872 / Virus Database: 2092/4626 - Release Date: 11/19/11 __ Elecraft mailing list Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm Post: mailto:Elecraft@mailman.qth.net This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html
[Elecraft] Elecraft SSB net CANCELLED this week
The weekly Elecraft SSB net which normally meets on Sundays at 1800Z on 14.3035 MHz is cancelled for this week. The ARRL Sweepstakes Phone Contest has taken over the band. Let's not fight it. Work some DX instead. We will be back next Sunday. Have a great week. 73, Phil, NS7P __ Elecraft mailing list Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm Post: mailto:Elecraft@mailman.qth.net This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html
Re: [Elecraft] US 60 Meter Band Changes Approved by FCC - CW Issues
On 11/19/2011 12:55 PM, Sandy wrote: > If the FCC engineers want to hear a 1.5 khz tone, that's THEIR > problem, not ours. Maybe there will be some "simple simon" type > doing any monitoring and he will have a "reference" frequency of > 8881500 hz. plus or minus what ever the "tolerances" are in PPM. This anomaly isn't the FCC's doing - it's NTIA's doing. It's their band, their channels, and they are calling the shots. We're lucky to get any 60 meters at all. I'm intimately familiar with how that worked. -- 73 de K2ASP - Phil Kane Elecraft K2/100 s/n 5402 (FCC District Director - Retired) __ Elecraft mailing list Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm Post: mailto:Elecraft@mailman.qth.net This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html
Re: [Elecraft] US 60 Meter Band Changes Approved by FCC - CW Issues
You CAN do it that way...BUT.if you doBE careful. If you make a mistake it may be costly to everyone who uses the band. I'm sure they will be doing at least a "sample monitoring" session during the early days after the allocations are final. THESE ARE "CHANNELIZED" frequencies and they have a tendency to be sure you are compliant with their "rules"! They may not be, but why take a chance. It's too easy to be in the wrong place at the wrong time. I'd imagine SOMEONE is gonna be a bit "touchy" the first few weeks after this goes into effect. If you have the memories..USE THEM! No "offense" meant by above remarks! 73, Sandy W5TVW -Original Message- From: Mike Harris Sent: Saturday, November 19, 2011 4:38 PM To: elecraft@mailman.qth.net Subject: Re: [Elecraft] US 60 Meter Band Changes Approved by FCC - CW Issues Maybe I'm missing something but isn't this what the VFO knob is for. Set the dial frequency to 5357kHz for USB, change to CW and set the dial frequency to 5358.5kHz Regards. Mike VP8NO On 19/11/2011 18:47, Mike Morrow wrote: > Sandy wrote: > >> The CW signal must be radiated on the center frequency. This won't make >> ANY >> difference except that you will have two memory settings for the same >> channel. One for SSB and data and RTTY modes, and one for CW mode which >> will simply occupy 10 memory slots. > > The point to be taken is that most HAM transceivers, when the emission > mode is > changed from USB to CW, shift either the effective receive or the transmit > frequency by the desired amount of sidetone frequency. They don't shift > both > the effective receive AND the transmit frequency. For example, a > transceiver > tuned to 5357.0 kHz on the dial in USB mode will produce a zero Hz AF > output > when receiving a transmitted signal of 5357.0 kHz, and a 1500 Hz AF output > when > receiving a transmitted signal of 5358.5 kHz. When the transceiver is > shifted > to CW mode, the receiver frequency typically remains 5357.0 kHz, while the > transmitter frequency is shifted up to typically 5357.8 kHz (for 800 Hz CW > sidetone). But the new FCC rules require that the CW transmit frequency > be > 5358.5 kHz, which will produce an undesirably high side tone to any USB/CW > mode > receiver set to 5357.0 kHz. If you are in a USB phone QSO on 5357.0 kHz, > anyone > sending a CW signal on that channel must do that using 5358.5 kHz. The > phone > boys will hear not the typically 800 Hz sidetone, but rather a high 1500 > Hz > sidetone! > >> If the FCC engineers want to hear a 1.5 khz tone, that's THEIR problem, >> not ours. > > That's got NOTHING to do with the discussion. > > The new 60m rules will mandate that a CW signal be sent 1500 Hz higher > than > the USB carrier frequency on the assigned channel! This is the FIRST > REQUIREMENT of this type in ALL of the history of ham radio. There are NO > ham rigs today that are set to implement this requirement when, while set > to > to 5357.0 kHz, the mode switch is shifted from USB to CW! > > Beyond that, since most hams will not be happy with normal use of a 1500 > Hz > sidetone on 60m, new ham rigs will also need to shift the receiver > frequency > higher than that being used for USB phone mode, in order to produce an 800 > Hz > (or so) sidetone after the mode switch is taken from USB to CW. > > So...nothing in this discussion concerns any FCC desire for a particular > receiver sidetone, but rather, additional issues that must be addressed > by ham rig designers for multi-mode 60m operation that are significantly > different than have ever been encountered. > > Mike / KK5F __ Elecraft mailing list Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm Post: mailto:Elecraft@mailman.qth.net This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html - No virus found in this message. Checked by AVG - www.avg.com Version: 2012.0.1872 / Virus Database: 2092/4626 - Release Date: 11/19/11 __ Elecraft mailing list Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm Post: mailto:Elecraft@mailman.qth.net This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html
Re: [Elecraft] US 60 Meter Band Changes Approved by FCC - CW Issues
Not if CONFIG: CW WGHT 5 is selected Automatic VFO offset SSB/CW. The indicated carrier frequency will vary by the amount of the selected sidetone. Regards, Mike VP8NO On 19/11/2011 19:44, Don Wilhelm wrote: > Mike, > > Not all transceivers shift the transmit frequency. > > The Elecraft K2 and K3 dial always indicate the carrier frequency, and > what is displayed does not change when changing modes. With Elecraft, > the pitch of signals will change when changing between CW and SSB. > > OTOH, my Yaesu transceivers do shift the displayed frequency when > changing between SSB and CW, but they shift the receiver - the display > will indicate the transmitted carrier frequency. If you were receiving > a signal in SSB mode and shift to CW, the pitch will stay the same. > > With either Elecraft or Yaesu, there is nothing complicated to figure > out - set the displayed frequency to the center channel frequency - but > with the Yaesu, one must do that AFTER setting to CW mode. With the > Elecraft gear, you can set the frequency in whichever mode you choose, > then switch to CW. > > 73, > Don W3FPR > > On 11/19/2011 4:47 PM, Mike Morrow wrote: >> The point to be taken is that most HAM transceivers, when the emission >> mode is changed from USB to CW, shift either the effective receive or >> the transmit frequency by the desired amount of sidetone frequency. >> They don't shift both the effective receive AND the transmit >> frequency. For example, a transceiver tuned to 5357.0 kHz on the dial >> in USB mode will produce a zero Hz AF output when receiving a >> transmitted signal of 5357.0 kHz, and a 1500 Hz AF output when >> receiving a transmitted signal of 5358.5 kHz. When the transceiver is >> shifted to CW mode, the receiver frequency typically remains 5357.0 >> kHz, while the transmitter frequency is shifted up to typically 5357.8 >> kHz (for 800 Hz CW sidetone). But the new FCC rules require that the >> CW transmit frequency be 5358.5 kHz, which will produce an undesirably >> high side tone to any USB/CW mode receiver set to 5357.0 kHz. If you >> are in a USB phone QSO on 5357.0 kHz, anyone sending a CW signal on >> that channel must do that using 5358.5 kHz. The phone boys will hear >> not the typically 800 Hz sidetone, but rather a high 1500 Hz sidetone! __ Elecraft mailing list Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm Post: mailto:Elecraft@mailman.qth.net This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html
Re: [Elecraft] US 60 Meter Band Changes Approved by FCC - CW Issues
WHO CARES? he FCC is the entity that controls Amateur operation and they have the last word. 73, Sandy W5TVW -Original Message- From: Matthew Pitts Sent: Saturday, November 19, 2011 4:09 PM To: Elecraft Subject: Re: [Elecraft] US 60 Meter Band Changes Approved by FCC - CW Issues Mike, This new requirement may not be driven entirely by the FCC; isn't 60 meters controlled by the NTIA? Maybe they are the ones that stipulated the shift in frequency; I don't know. Matthew Pitts N8OHU Sent from my Wireless Device -Original Message- From: Mike Morrow Sender: elecraft-boun...@mailman.qth.net Date: Sat, 19 Nov 2011 16:47:34 To: Reply-To: Mike Morrow Subject: Re: [Elecraft] US 60 Meter Band Changes Approved by FCC - CW Issues Sandy wrote: >The CW signal must be radiated on the center frequency. This won't make >ANY >difference except that you will have two memory settings for the same >channel. One for SSB and data and RTTY modes, and one for CW mode which >will simply occupy 10 memory slots. The point to be taken is that most HAM transceivers, when the emission mode is changed from USB to CW, shift either the effective receive or the transmit frequency by the desired amount of sidetone frequency. They don't shift both the effective receive AND the transmit frequency. For example, a transceiver tuned to 5357.0 kHz on the dial in USB mode will produce a zero Hz AF output when receiving a transmitted signal of 5357.0 kHz, and a 1500 Hz AF output when receiving a transmitted signal of 5358.5 kHz. When the transceiver is shifted to CW mode, the receiver frequency typically remains 5357.0 kHz, while the transmitter frequency is shifted up to typically 5357.8 kHz (for 800 Hz CW sidetone). But the new FCC rules require that the CW transmit frequency be 5358.5 kHz, which will produce an undesirably high side tone to any USB/CW mode receiver set to 5357.0 kHz. If you are in a USB phone QSO on 5357.0 kHz, anyone sending a CW signal on that channel must do that using 5358.5 kHz. The phone boys will hear not the typically 800 Hz sidetone, but rather a high 1500 Hz sidetone! > If the FCC engineers want to hear a 1.5 khz tone, that's THEIR problem, > not ours. That's got NOTHING to do with the discussion. The new 60m rules will mandate that a CW signal be sent 1500 Hz higher than the USB carrier frequency on the assigned channel! This is the FIRST REQUIREMENT of this type in ALL of the history of ham radio. There are NO ham rigs today that are set to implement this requirement when, while set to to 5357.0 kHz, the mode switch is shifted from USB to CW! Beyond that, since most hams will not be happy with normal use of a 1500 Hz sidetone on 60m, new ham rigs will also need to shift the receiver frequency higher than that being used for USB phone mode, in order to produce an 800 Hz (or so) sidetone after the mode switch is taken from USB to CW. So...nothing in this discussion concerns any FCC desire for a particular receiver sidetone, but rather, additional issues that must be addressed by ham rig designers for multi-mode 60m operation that are significantly different than have ever been encountered. Mike / KK5F Maybe there will be some "simple >simon" type doing any monitoring and he will have a "reference" frequency >of >1500 hz. plus or minus what ever the "tolerances" are in PPM. As I said >this ISN'T OUR WORRY. > >Will be nice to have a "CW" place to go that will be unmolested by >contesters on weekends! > >When is this supposed to appear in the Federal Register" anybody know? > >73, > >Sandy W5TVW > >-Original Message- >From: Mike Morrow >Sent: Saturday, November 19, 2011 2:13 PM >To: elecraft@mailman.qth.net >Subject: [Elecraft] US 60 Meter Band Changes Approved by FCC - CW Issues > >I wrote: > >>(3) Three emission modes (CW, RTTY, Data) are authorized in addition to >>the >>existing USB mode. > >There's interesting detail about carrier versus center frequency in the >*new* >Section 97.303: > >---QUOTE--- >(h) 60 m band: (1) In the 5330.5-5406.4 kHz band (60 m band), amateur >stations >may transmit only on the five center frequencies specified in the table >below. >In order to meet this requirement, control operators of stations >transmitting >phone, data, and RTTY emissions (emission designators 2K80J3E, 2K80J2D, and >60H0J2B, respectively) may set the carrier frequency 1.5 kHz below the >center >frequency as specified in the table below. For CW emissions (emission >designator >150HA1A), the carrier frequency is set to the center frequency... > > 60M BAND FREQUENCIES (KHZ) > Carrier Center > 5330.55332.0 > 5346.55348.0 > 5357.05358.5 > 5371.55373.0 > 5403.55405.0 >---END QUOTE--- > >Note the *requirement*: "For CW emissions ... the carrier frequency is set >to >the center frequency." > >For example, switching from USB Phone on 5357.0 kHz to CW on the *same* >channel, >the transmitter must transmit on
Re: [Elecraft] US 60 Meter Band Changes Approved by FCC - CW Issues
Don, You're right, for transceivers that implement the 60 meter band in the VFO; not all compatible transceivers do. My FT-817 has 5 memory channels for 60m, thus not much chance for me ever using the new modes on it; I guess I'll have to add the 60m module to my K2 for that. Matthew Pitts N8OHU Sent from my Wireless Device -Original Message- From: Don Wilhelm Sender: elecraft-boun...@mailman.qth.net Date: Sat, 19 Nov 2011 17:44:41 To: Reply-To: d...@w3fpr.com Subject: Re: [Elecraft] US 60 Meter Band Changes Approved by FCC - CW Issues Mike, Not all transceivers shift the transmit frequency. The Elecraft K2 and K3 dial always indicate the carrier frequency, and what is displayed does not change when changing modes. With Elecraft, the pitch of signals will change when changing between CW and SSB. OTOH, my Yaesu transceivers do shift the displayed frequency when changing between SSB and CW, but they shift the receiver - the display will indicate the transmitted carrier frequency. If you were receiving a signal in SSB mode and shift to CW, the pitch will stay the same. With either Elecraft or Yaesu, there is nothing complicated to figure out - set the displayed frequency to the center channel frequency - but with the Yaesu, one must do that AFTER setting to CW mode. With the Elecraft gear, you can set the frequency in whichever mode you choose, then switch to CW. 73, Don W3FPR On 11/19/2011 4:47 PM, Mike Morrow wrote: > The point to be taken is that most HAM transceivers, when the emission > mode is changed from USB to CW, shift either the effective receive or > the transmit frequency by the desired amount of sidetone frequency. > They don't shift both the effective receive AND the transmit > frequency. For example, a transceiver tuned to 5357.0 kHz on the dial > in USB mode will produce a zero Hz AF output when receiving a > transmitted signal of 5357.0 kHz, and a 1500 Hz AF output when > receiving a transmitted signal of 5358.5 kHz. When the transceiver is > shifted to CW mode, the receiver frequency typically remains 5357.0 > kHz, while the transmitter frequency is shifted up to typically 5357.8 > kHz (for 800 Hz CW sidetone). But the new FCC rules require that the > CW transmit frequency be 5358.5 kHz, which will produce an undesirably > high side tone to any USB/CW mode receiver set to 5357.0 kHz. If you > are in a USB phone QSO on 5357.0 kHz, anyone sending a CW signal on > that channel must do that using 5358.5 kHz. The phone boys will hear > not the typically 800 Hz sidetone, but rather a high 1500 Hz sidetone! __ Elecraft mailing list Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm Post: mailto:Elecraft@mailman.qth.net This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html __ Elecraft mailing list Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm Post: mailto:Elecraft@mailman.qth.net This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html
Re: [Elecraft] US 60 Meter Band Changes Approved by FCC - CW Issues
Mike, Not all transceivers shift the transmit frequency. The Elecraft K2 and K3 dial always indicate the carrier frequency, and what is displayed does not change when changing modes. With Elecraft, the pitch of signals will change when changing between CW and SSB. OTOH, my Yaesu transceivers do shift the displayed frequency when changing between SSB and CW, but they shift the receiver - the display will indicate the transmitted carrier frequency. If you were receiving a signal in SSB mode and shift to CW, the pitch will stay the same. With either Elecraft or Yaesu, there is nothing complicated to figure out - set the displayed frequency to the center channel frequency - but with the Yaesu, one must do that AFTER setting to CW mode. With the Elecraft gear, you can set the frequency in whichever mode you choose, then switch to CW. 73, Don W3FPR On 11/19/2011 4:47 PM, Mike Morrow wrote: > The point to be taken is that most HAM transceivers, when the emission > mode is changed from USB to CW, shift either the effective receive or > the transmit frequency by the desired amount of sidetone frequency. > They don't shift both the effective receive AND the transmit > frequency. For example, a transceiver tuned to 5357.0 kHz on the dial > in USB mode will produce a zero Hz AF output when receiving a > transmitted signal of 5357.0 kHz, and a 1500 Hz AF output when > receiving a transmitted signal of 5358.5 kHz. When the transceiver is > shifted to CW mode, the receiver frequency typically remains 5357.0 > kHz, while the transmitter frequency is shifted up to typically 5357.8 > kHz (for 800 Hz CW sidetone). But the new FCC rules require that the > CW transmit frequency be 5358.5 kHz, which will produce an undesirably > high side tone to any USB/CW mode receiver set to 5357.0 kHz. If you > are in a USB phone QSO on 5357.0 kHz, anyone sending a CW signal on > that channel must do that using 5358.5 kHz. The phone boys will hear > not the typically 800 Hz sidetone, but rather a high 1500 Hz sidetone! __ Elecraft mailing list Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm Post: mailto:Elecraft@mailman.qth.net This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html
Re: [Elecraft] US 60 Meter Band Changes Approved by FCC - CW Issues
Maybe I'm missing something but isn't this what the VFO knob is for. Set the dial frequency to 5357kHz for USB, change to CW and set the dial frequency to 5358.5kHz Regards. Mike VP8NO On 19/11/2011 18:47, Mike Morrow wrote: > Sandy wrote: > >> The CW signal must be radiated on the center frequency. This won't make ANY >> difference except that you will have two memory settings for the same >> channel. One for SSB and data and RTTY modes, and one for CW mode which >> will simply occupy 10 memory slots. > > The point to be taken is that most HAM transceivers, when the emission mode is > changed from USB to CW, shift either the effective receive or the transmit > frequency by the desired amount of sidetone frequency. They don't shift both > the effective receive AND the transmit frequency. For example, a transceiver > tuned to 5357.0 kHz on the dial in USB mode will produce a zero Hz AF output > when receiving a transmitted signal of 5357.0 kHz, and a 1500 Hz AF output > when > receiving a transmitted signal of 5358.5 kHz. When the transceiver is shifted > to CW mode, the receiver frequency typically remains 5357.0 kHz, while the > transmitter frequency is shifted up to typically 5357.8 kHz (for 800 Hz CW > sidetone). But the new FCC rules require that the CW transmit frequency be > 5358.5 kHz, which will produce an undesirably high side tone to any USB/CW > mode > receiver set to 5357.0 kHz. If you are in a USB phone QSO on 5357.0 kHz, > anyone > sending a CW signal on that channel must do that using 5358.5 kHz. The phone > boys will hear not the typically 800 Hz sidetone, but rather a high 1500 Hz > sidetone! > >> If the FCC engineers want to hear a 1.5 khz tone, that's THEIR problem, >> not ours. > > That's got NOTHING to do with the discussion. > > The new 60m rules will mandate that a CW signal be sent 1500 Hz higher than > the USB carrier frequency on the assigned channel! This is the FIRST > REQUIREMENT of this type in ALL of the history of ham radio. There are NO > ham rigs today that are set to implement this requirement when, while set to > to 5357.0 kHz, the mode switch is shifted from USB to CW! > > Beyond that, since most hams will not be happy with normal use of a 1500 Hz > sidetone on 60m, new ham rigs will also need to shift the receiver frequency > higher than that being used for USB phone mode, in order to produce an 800 Hz > (or so) sidetone after the mode switch is taken from USB to CW. > > So...nothing in this discussion concerns any FCC desire for a particular > receiver sidetone, but rather, additional issues that must be addressed > by ham rig designers for multi-mode 60m operation that are significantly > different than have ever been encountered. > > Mike / KK5F __ Elecraft mailing list Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm Post: mailto:Elecraft@mailman.qth.net This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html
Re: [Elecraft] US 60 Meter Band Changes Approved by FCC - CW Issues
My FT-990 and my old IC-735 both indicate the "carrier" frequency emitted by the radio. In the "commercial realm" the old SSB channels were designated as to the "suppressed carrier frequency" the channels being upper sideband as given for such operation in the marine and aeronautical assignments. Sometimes "center frequency" assignments were listed but this was a constant source of confusion, so they finally listed "suppressed carrier frequency". The "regulators" is this case the FCC, want CW to use the center frequency. This was an arbitrary decision to keep CW in the center of the channel bandwidth. My YAESU FT-990 and other sets "remember" the mode and selectivity in memory as well as the carrier frequency. Therefore it is necessary to program the CW channels and USB channels as prescribed (center frequency OR carrier frequency) if you want to lesson the confusion for CW and USB assignments. Just programming ONE frequency and shifting between CW and USB modes WILL NOT CUT IT! I strongly recommend those who plan on CW and USB operation both do this! It will keep you out of trouble and keep the peace on the band better. This is one of the "minus points" of "Channelized" operation. 73, Sandy W5TVW -Original Message- From: Mike Morrow Sent: Saturday, November 19, 2011 3:47 PM To: elecraft@mailman.qth.net Subject: Re: [Elecraft] US 60 Meter Band Changes Approved by FCC - CW Issues Sandy wrote: >The CW signal must be radiated on the center frequency. This won't make >ANY >difference except that you will have two memory settings for the same >channel. One for SSB and data and RTTY modes, and one for CW mode which >will simply occupy 10 memory slots. The point to be taken is that most HAM transceivers, when the emission mode is changed from USB to CW, shift either the effective receive or the transmit frequency by the desired amount of sidetone frequency. They don't shift both the effective receive AND the transmit frequency. For example, a transceiver tuned to 5357.0 kHz on the dial in USB mode will produce a zero Hz AF output when receiving a transmitted signal of 5357.0 kHz, and a 1500 Hz AF output when receiving a transmitted signal of 5358.5 kHz. When the transceiver is shifted to CW mode, the receiver frequency typically remains 5357.0 kHz, while the transmitter frequency is shifted up to typically 5357.8 kHz (for 800 Hz CW sidetone). But the new FCC rules require that the CW transmit frequency be 5358.5 kHz, which will produce an undesirably high side tone to any USB/CW mode receiver set to 5357.0 kHz. If you are in a USB phone QSO on 5357.0 kHz, anyone sending a CW signal on that channel must do that using 5358.5 kHz. The phone boys will hear not the typically 800 Hz sidetone, but rather a high 1500 Hz sidetone! > If the FCC engineers want to hear a 1.5 khz tone, that's THEIR problem, > not ours. That's got NOTHING to do with the discussion. The new 60m rules will mandate that a CW signal be sent 1500 Hz higher than the USB carrier frequency on the assigned channel! This is the FIRST REQUIREMENT of this type in ALL of the history of ham radio. There are NO ham rigs today that are set to implement this requirement when, while set to to 5357.0 kHz, the mode switch is shifted from USB to CW! Beyond that, since most hams will not be happy with normal use of a 1500 Hz sidetone on 60m, new ham rigs will also need to shift the receiver frequency higher than that being used for USB phone mode, in order to produce an 800 Hz (or so) sidetone after the mode switch is taken from USB to CW. So...nothing in this discussion concerns any FCC desire for a particular receiver sidetone, but rather, additional issues that must be addressed by ham rig designers for multi-mode 60m operation that are significantly different than have ever been encountered. Mike / KK5F Maybe there will be some "simple >simon" type doing any monitoring and he will have a "reference" frequency >of >1500 hz. plus or minus what ever the "tolerances" are in PPM. As I said >this ISN'T OUR WORRY. > >Will be nice to have a "CW" place to go that will be unmolested by >contesters on weekends! > >When is this supposed to appear in the Federal Register" anybody know? > >73, > >Sandy W5TVW > >-Original Message- >From: Mike Morrow >Sent: Saturday, November 19, 2011 2:13 PM >To: elecraft@mailman.qth.net >Subject: [Elecraft] US 60 Meter Band Changes Approved by FCC - CW Issues > >I wrote: > >>(3) Three emission modes (CW, RTTY, Data) are authorized in addition to >>the >>existing USB mode. > >There's interesting detail about carrier versus center frequency in the >*new* >Section 97.303: > >---QUOTE--- >(h) 60 m band: (1) In the 5330.5-5406.4 kHz band (60 m band), amateur >stations >may transmit only on the five center frequencies specified in the table >below. >In order to meet this requirement, control operators of stations >transmitting >phone, data, and RTTY emissions (emissi
Re: [Elecraft] US 60 Meter Band Changes Approved by FCC - CW Issues
As to frequency tolerances, I have no idea. The commercial SSB tolerances used to be around 20Hz. I don't know what it is now. There isn't anything specified in the NRPM as to tolerances and I would assume the FCC is accepting whatever the precision of the current bunch of Japanese radios type approved are at present. I would not press this issue as we are likely to end up on the short end of the stick in some technical brawl as to "what" the tolerances "should be", in all probability by "non technical" FCC types! My brain tells me to "Let the sleeping dog lie!" in this case. 73, Sandy W5TVW -Original Message- From: Rick Dettinger Sent: Saturday, November 19, 2011 3:24 PM To: Sandy Cc: Mike Morrow ; elecraft@mailman.qth.net ; TETRODE List ; Old Tube Radios Subject: Re: [Elecraft] US 60 Meter Band Changes Approved by FCC - CW Issues I am wondering what restrictions are placed on frequency accuracy? Would simple QRP rigs like the Sierra or maybe a modified K1 be suitable for operation on the 60 meter band? We are probably talking about less th at 200 Hz. deviation from the specified center frequency. Also, I don't think that the FCC engineers have randomly monitored any ham frequencies for at least two decades. We are now "self policing". 73, Rick Dettinger K7MW On Nov 19, 2011, at 12:55 PM, Sandy wrote: > The CW signal must be radiated on the center frequency. This won't make > ANY > difference except that you will have two memory settings for the same > channel. One for SSB and data and RTTY modes, and one for CW mode which > will simply occupy 10 memory slots. If the FCC engineers want to hear a > 1.5 > khz tone, that's THEIR problem, not ours. Maybe there will be some > "simple > simon" type doing any monitoring and he will have a "reference" frequency > of > 1500 hz. plus or minus what ever the "tolerances" are in PPM. As I said > this ISN'T OUR WORRY. > > Will be nice to have a "CW" place to go that will be unmolested by > contesters on weekends! > > When is this supposed to appear in the Federal Register" anybody know? > > 73, > > Sandy W5TVW - No virus found in this message. Checked by AVG - www.avg.com Version: 2012.0.1872 / Virus Database: 2092/4626 - Release Date: 11/19/11 __ Elecraft mailing list Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm Post: mailto:Elecraft@mailman.qth.net This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html
Re: [Elecraft] US 60 Meter Band Changes Approved by FCC - CW Issues
Mike, This new requirement may not be driven entirely by the FCC; isn't 60 meters controlled by the NTIA? Maybe they are the ones that stipulated the shift in frequency; I don't know. Matthew Pitts N8OHU Sent from my Wireless Device -Original Message- From: Mike Morrow Sender: elecraft-boun...@mailman.qth.net Date: Sat, 19 Nov 2011 16:47:34 To: Reply-To: Mike Morrow Subject: Re: [Elecraft] US 60 Meter Band Changes Approved by FCC - CW Issues Sandy wrote: >The CW signal must be radiated on the center frequency. This won't make ANY >difference except that you will have two memory settings for the same >channel. One for SSB and data and RTTY modes, and one for CW mode which >will simply occupy 10 memory slots. The point to be taken is that most HAM transceivers, when the emission mode is changed from USB to CW, shift either the effective receive or the transmit frequency by the desired amount of sidetone frequency. They don't shift both the effective receive AND the transmit frequency. For example, a transceiver tuned to 5357.0 kHz on the dial in USB mode will produce a zero Hz AF output when receiving a transmitted signal of 5357.0 kHz, and a 1500 Hz AF output when receiving a transmitted signal of 5358.5 kHz. When the transceiver is shifted to CW mode, the receiver frequency typically remains 5357.0 kHz, while the transmitter frequency is shifted up to typically 5357.8 kHz (for 800 Hz CW sidetone). But the new FCC rules require that the CW transmit frequency be 5358.5 kHz, which will produce an undesirably high side tone to any USB/CW mode receiver set to 5357.0 kHz. If you are in a USB phone QSO on 5357.0 kHz, anyone sending a CW signal on that channel must do that using 5358.5 kHz. The phone boys will hear not the typically 800 Hz sidetone, but rather a high 1500 Hz sidetone! > If the FCC engineers want to hear a 1.5 khz tone, that's THEIR problem, > not ours. That's got NOTHING to do with the discussion. The new 60m rules will mandate that a CW signal be sent 1500 Hz higher than the USB carrier frequency on the assigned channel! This is the FIRST REQUIREMENT of this type in ALL of the history of ham radio. There are NO ham rigs today that are set to implement this requirement when, while set to to 5357.0 kHz, the mode switch is shifted from USB to CW! Beyond that, since most hams will not be happy with normal use of a 1500 Hz sidetone on 60m, new ham rigs will also need to shift the receiver frequency higher than that being used for USB phone mode, in order to produce an 800 Hz (or so) sidetone after the mode switch is taken from USB to CW. So...nothing in this discussion concerns any FCC desire for a particular receiver sidetone, but rather, additional issues that must be addressed by ham rig designers for multi-mode 60m operation that are significantly different than have ever been encountered. Mike / KK5F Maybe there will be some "simple >simon" type doing any monitoring and he will have a "reference" frequency of >1500 hz. plus or minus what ever the "tolerances" are in PPM. As I said >this ISN'T OUR WORRY. > >Will be nice to have a "CW" place to go that will be unmolested by >contesters on weekends! > >When is this supposed to appear in the Federal Register" anybody know? > >73, > >Sandy W5TVW > >-Original Message- >From: Mike Morrow >Sent: Saturday, November 19, 2011 2:13 PM >To: elecraft@mailman.qth.net >Subject: [Elecraft] US 60 Meter Band Changes Approved by FCC - CW Issues > >I wrote: > >>(3) Three emission modes (CW, RTTY, Data) are authorized in addition to the >>existing USB mode. > >There's interesting detail about carrier versus center frequency in the >*new* >Section 97.303: > >---QUOTE--- >(h) 60 m band: (1) In the 5330.5-5406.4 kHz band (60 m band), amateur >stations >may transmit only on the five center frequencies specified in the table >below. >In order to meet this requirement, control operators of stations >transmitting >phone, data, and RTTY emissions (emission designators 2K80J3E, 2K80J2D, and >60H0J2B, respectively) may set the carrier frequency 1.5 kHz below the >center >frequency as specified in the table below. For CW emissions (emission >designator >150HA1A), the carrier frequency is set to the center frequency... > > 60M BAND FREQUENCIES (KHZ) > Carrier Center > 5330.55332.0 > 5346.55348.0 > 5357.05358.5 > 5371.55373.0 > 5403.55405.0 >---END QUOTE--- > >Note the *requirement*: "For CW emissions ... the carrier frequency is set >to >the center frequency." > >For example, switching from USB Phone on 5357.0 kHz to CW on the *same* >channel, >the transmitter must transmit on 5358.5 kHz. That will produce a 1500 Hz >tone >in a USB receiver set to 5357.0 kHz. It appears that now a transceiver will >need to shift not only the transmitter's carrier from 5357.0 to 5358.5 kHz, >but also receiver's effective frequency up by the amount needed to produce >the >de
Re: [Elecraft] US 60 Meter Band Changes Approved by FCC - CW Issues
Sandy wrote: >The CW signal must be radiated on the center frequency. This won't make ANY >difference except that you will have two memory settings for the same >channel. One for SSB and data and RTTY modes, and one for CW mode which >will simply occupy 10 memory slots. The point to be taken is that most HAM transceivers, when the emission mode is changed from USB to CW, shift either the effective receive or the transmit frequency by the desired amount of sidetone frequency. They don't shift both the effective receive AND the transmit frequency. For example, a transceiver tuned to 5357.0 kHz on the dial in USB mode will produce a zero Hz AF output when receiving a transmitted signal of 5357.0 kHz, and a 1500 Hz AF output when receiving a transmitted signal of 5358.5 kHz. When the transceiver is shifted to CW mode, the receiver frequency typically remains 5357.0 kHz, while the transmitter frequency is shifted up to typically 5357.8 kHz (for 800 Hz CW sidetone). But the new FCC rules require that the CW transmit frequency be 5358.5 kHz, which will produce an undesirably high side tone to any USB/CW mode receiver set to 5357.0 kHz. If you are in a USB phone QSO on 5357.0 kHz, anyone sending a CW signal on that channel must do that using 5358.5 kHz. The phone boys will hear not the typically 800 Hz sidetone, but rather a high 1500 Hz sidetone! > If the FCC engineers want to hear a 1.5 khz tone, that's THEIR problem, > not ours. That's got NOTHING to do with the discussion. The new 60m rules will mandate that a CW signal be sent 1500 Hz higher than the USB carrier frequency on the assigned channel! This is the FIRST REQUIREMENT of this type in ALL of the history of ham radio. There are NO ham rigs today that are set to implement this requirement when, while set to to 5357.0 kHz, the mode switch is shifted from USB to CW! Beyond that, since most hams will not be happy with normal use of a 1500 Hz sidetone on 60m, new ham rigs will also need to shift the receiver frequency higher than that being used for USB phone mode, in order to produce an 800 Hz (or so) sidetone after the mode switch is taken from USB to CW. So...nothing in this discussion concerns any FCC desire for a particular receiver sidetone, but rather, additional issues that must be addressed by ham rig designers for multi-mode 60m operation that are significantly different than have ever been encountered. Mike / KK5F Maybe there will be some "simple >simon" type doing any monitoring and he will have a "reference" frequency of >1500 hz. plus or minus what ever the "tolerances" are in PPM. As I said >this ISN'T OUR WORRY. > >Will be nice to have a "CW" place to go that will be unmolested by >contesters on weekends! > >When is this supposed to appear in the Federal Register" anybody know? > >73, > >Sandy W5TVW > >-Original Message- >From: Mike Morrow >Sent: Saturday, November 19, 2011 2:13 PM >To: elecraft@mailman.qth.net >Subject: [Elecraft] US 60 Meter Band Changes Approved by FCC - CW Issues > >I wrote: > >>(3) Three emission modes (CW, RTTY, Data) are authorized in addition to the >>existing USB mode. > >There's interesting detail about carrier versus center frequency in the >*new* >Section 97.303: > >---QUOTE--- >(h) 60 m band: (1) In the 5330.5-5406.4 kHz band (60 m band), amateur >stations >may transmit only on the five center frequencies specified in the table >below. >In order to meet this requirement, control operators of stations >transmitting >phone, data, and RTTY emissions (emission designators 2K80J3E, 2K80J2D, and >60H0J2B, respectively) may set the carrier frequency 1.5 kHz below the >center >frequency as specified in the table below. For CW emissions (emission >designator >150HA1A), the carrier frequency is set to the center frequency... > > 60M BAND FREQUENCIES (KHZ) > Carrier Center > 5330.55332.0 > 5346.55348.0 > 5357.05358.5 > 5371.55373.0 > 5403.55405.0 >---END QUOTE--- > >Note the *requirement*: "For CW emissions ... the carrier frequency is set >to >the center frequency." > >For example, switching from USB Phone on 5357.0 kHz to CW on the *same* >channel, >the transmitter must transmit on 5358.5 kHz. That will produce a 1500 Hz >tone >in a USB receiver set to 5357.0 kHz. It appears that now a transceiver will >need to shift not only the transmitter's carrier from 5357.0 to 5358.5 kHz, >but also receiver's effective frequency up by the amount needed to produce >the >desired sidetone when tuned to a 5358.5 kHz CW signal. The wording in the >new >rule seems to introduce an unfortunate and valueless complexity for CW >operation. > >Mike / KK5F > __ Elecraft mailing list Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm Post: mailto:Elecraft@mailman.qth.net This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net Please help support this e
Re: [Elecraft] US 60 Meter Band Changes Approved by FCC - CW Issues
I am wondering what restrictions are placed on frequency accuracy? Would simple QRP rigs like the Sierra or maybe a modified K1 be suitable for operation on the 60 meter band? We are probably talking about less that 200 Hz. deviation from the specified center frequency. Also, I don't think that the FCC engineers have randomly monitored any ham frequencies for at least two decades. We are now "self policing". 73, Rick Dettinger K7MW On Nov 19, 2011, at 12:55 PM, Sandy wrote: > The CW signal must be radiated on the center frequency. This won't > make ANY > difference except that you will have two memory settings for the same > channel. One for SSB and data and RTTY modes, and one for CW mode > which > will simply occupy 10 memory slots. If the FCC engineers want to > hear a 1.5 > khz tone, that's THEIR problem, not ours. Maybe there will be some > "simple > simon" type doing any monitoring and he will have a "reference" > frequency of > 1500 hz. plus or minus what ever the "tolerances" are in PPM. As I > said > this ISN'T OUR WORRY. > > Will be nice to have a "CW" place to go that will be unmolested by > contesters on weekends! > > When is this supposed to appear in the Federal Register" anybody know? > > 73, > > Sandy W5TVW __ Elecraft mailing list Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm Post: mailto:Elecraft@mailman.qth.net This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html
Re: [Elecraft] US 60 Meter Band Changes Approved by FCC - CW Issues
The CW signal must be radiated on the center frequency. This won't make ANY difference except that you will have two memory settings for the same channel. One for SSB and data and RTTY modes, and one for CW mode which will simply occupy 10 memory slots. If the FCC engineers want to hear a 1.5 khz tone, that's THEIR problem, not ours. Maybe there will be some "simple simon" type doing any monitoring and he will have a "reference" frequency of 1500 hz. plus or minus what ever the "tolerances" are in PPM. As I said this ISN'T OUR WORRY. Will be nice to have a "CW" place to go that will be unmolested by contesters on weekends! When is this supposed to appear in the Federal Register" anybody know? 73, Sandy W5TVW -Original Message- From: Mike Morrow Sent: Saturday, November 19, 2011 2:13 PM To: elecraft@mailman.qth.net Subject: [Elecraft] US 60 Meter Band Changes Approved by FCC - CW Issues I wrote: >(3) Three emission modes (CW, RTTY, Data) are authorized in addition to the >existing USB mode. There's interesting detail about carrier versus center frequency in the *new* Section 97.303: ---QUOTE--- (h) 60 m band: (1) In the 5330.5-5406.4 kHz band (60 m band), amateur stations may transmit only on the five center frequencies specified in the table below. In order to meet this requirement, control operators of stations transmitting phone, data, and RTTY emissions (emission designators 2K80J3E, 2K80J2D, and 60H0J2B, respectively) may set the carrier frequency 1.5 kHz below the center frequency as specified in the table below. For CW emissions (emission designator 150HA1A), the carrier frequency is set to the center frequency... 60M BAND FREQUENCIES (KHZ) Carrier Center 5330.55332.0 5346.55348.0 5357.05358.5 5371.55373.0 5403.55405.0 ---END QUOTE--- Note the *requirement*: "For CW emissions ... the carrier frequency is set to the center frequency." For example, switching from USB Phone on 5357.0 kHz to CW on the *same* channel, the transmitter must transmit on 5358.5 kHz. That will produce a 1500 Hz tone in a USB receiver set to 5357.0 kHz. It appears that now a transceiver will need to shift not only the transmitter's carrier from 5357.0 to 5358.5 kHz, but also receiver's effective frequency up by the amount needed to produce the desired sidetone when tuned to a 5358.5 kHz CW signal. The wording in the new rule seems to introduce an unfortunate and valueless complexity for CW operation. Mike / KK5F __ Elecraft mailing list Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm Post: mailto:Elecraft@mailman.qth.net This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html
[Elecraft] FW: SignaLink Wiring
Sorry this was late, I thought I sent it to the list a few days ago, but it only went to Byron when I hit reply. Rick NHC > Joel, > > I did not rewire the jumpers for the K3, but left them set for my Kenwood > so I could switch back and forth, if needed by attaching the appropriate > cable. > > The jumpers for the Kenwood are straight across, 1, 2, 3, 6, 7, 8. If you > move the internal jumpers, base the wiring on the NON-RJ45 side. > > 1 is Speaker, line OUT > 2 is MIC, line IN > 3 is PTT (which I connected to CW Key) > 4; 5 not used > 6-8 are ground (all the same, and NOT chassis) > > I hope this helps. > > Rick WA6NHC > > > -Original Message- > From: Byron Servies > > Hi Joel, > > At the top of this page: > > http://www.tigertronics.com/sl_wirebm.htm#Elecraft > > they show how SignaLink numbers the RJ45 pins. So, if you match the > wiring in the table for the K3 to the numbering scheme for their > RJ45's you should be fine. > > 73, Byron N6NUL > > On Fri, Nov 18, 2011 at 3:44 PM, Joel Black wrote: > > If anyone is using the SignaLink USB, can someone tell me the wiring to > > the K3? > > > > I think I have rolled Line In and Line Out. > > > > Here's what I have: > > > > From the SignaLink RJ-45: > > > > Pin 1 -> SPKR goes to LINE IN (mono) on the K3 > > Pin 2 -> GND > > Pin 3 -> MIC goes to LINE OUT (stereo connection with tip and gnd only) > > on the K3 > > Pin 4 -> GND > > Pin 5 -> PTT goes to PTT IN on the K3 > > Pin 6 -> GND > > > > Please don't get into the argument about how I can just use the LINE > > IN/LINE OUT and connect to my computer's soundcard. I am aware of > > that. I have very specific and very good reasons for using the > > SignaLink. I just need some help with the wiring. > > > > Thanks, > > Joel - W4JBB __ Elecraft mailing list Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm Post: mailto:Elecraft@mailman.qth.net This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html
[Elecraft] US 60 Meter Band Changes Approved by FCC - CW Issues
I wrote: >(3) Three emission modes (CW, RTTY, Data) are authorized in addition to the >existing USB mode. There's interesting detail about carrier versus center frequency in the *new* Section 97.303: ---QUOTE--- (h) 60 m band: (1) In the 5330.5-5406.4 kHz band (60 m band), amateur stations may transmit only on the five center frequencies specified in the table below. In order to meet this requirement, control operators of stations transmitting phone, data, and RTTY emissions (emission designators 2K80J3E, 2K80J2D, and 60H0J2B, respectively) may set the carrier frequency 1.5 kHz below the center frequency as specified in the table below. For CW emissions (emission designator 150HA1A), the carrier frequency is set to the center frequency... 60M BAND FREQUENCIES (KHZ) Carrier Center 5330.55332.0 5346.55348.0 5357.05358.5 5371.55373.0 5403.55405.0 ---END QUOTE--- Note the *requirement*: "For CW emissions ... the carrier frequency is set to the center frequency." For example, switching from USB Phone on 5357.0 kHz to CW on the *same* channel, the transmitter must transmit on 5358.5 kHz. That will produce a 1500 Hz tone in a USB receiver set to 5357.0 kHz. It appears that now a transceiver will need to shift not only the transmitter's carrier from 5357.0 to 5358.5 kHz, but also receiver's effective frequency up by the amount needed to produce the desired sidetone when tuned to a 5358.5 kHz CW signal. The wording in the new rule seems to introduce an unfortunate and valueless complexity for CW operation. Mike / KK5F __ Elecraft mailing list Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm Post: mailto:Elecraft@mailman.qth.net This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html
Re: [Elecraft] [K3] K3 preamp sufficient for K9AY?
Try unplugging and replugging the antenna from the receiver, if you notice an increase in noise you do not need to further amplify the signal. A further amplification worsens the dynamic of the receiver. Only if you're lucky and live in a little noisy QTH you need a preamplifier at K9AY antenna or if you have a high lossy coax between the antenna and the receiver. 73, Fausto IK4NMF - Original Message - From: "Jim Miller" To: "Elecraft Reflector" Sent: Friday, November 18, 2011 2:29 AM Subject: [Elecraft] [K3] K3 preamp sufficient for K9AY? > I'm considering adding a K9AY antenna for 160m and 80m. For those of you > who are using one with the K3 do you find the K3 preamp sufficient or is > another preamp required? > > My K9AY would be no more than 100ft of coax away so I wouldn't expect a > lot > of additional loss. > > Thanks > > Jim ab3cv > __ > Elecraft mailing list > Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft > Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm > Post: mailto:Elecraft@mailman.qth.net > > This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net > Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html > > > - > Nessun virus nel messaggio. > Controllato da AVG - www.avg.com > Versione: 2012.0.1872 / Database dei virus: 2092/4626 - Data di rilascio: > 19/11/2011 > __ Elecraft mailing list Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm Post: mailto:Elecraft@mailman.qth.net This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html
Re: [Elecraft] US 60 Meter Band Changes Approved by FCC
Yay!!! -Original Message- From: Mike Morrow [mailto:k...@earthlink.net] Sent: Saturday, November 19, 2011 14:37 To: elecraft@mailman.qth.net Subject: [Elecraft] US 60 Meter Band Changes Approved by FCC Yesterday (18 November 2011), the FCC published its approval of changes to the US 60 meter band. (3) Three emission modes (CW, RTTY, Data) are authorized in addition to the existing USB mode. __ Elecraft mailing list Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm Post: mailto:Elecraft@mailman.qth.net This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html
[Elecraft] K3 Cover and Face plate
I would like to just share with the group a couple of experiences I had with 2 of the outside manufacturers on Elecraft's Other Mfg. Products page. First let me say I had never met these people before and therefore am giving an objective opinion. I ordered a dust cover for my K3 from Rose Kopp, N7KHW. After several emails back and forth, Rose created the exact cover I was looking for. She embroidered the cover the way I wanted it and in the color I wanted. She sent me a picture of the embroidery to show me how it looked and asked if it was ok. At that point, I think if I would have said no and told her something else she would have scraped that and made another with no extra charge. She completed the work and had it to me within a week. I was very impressed and am very proud to cover my K3 with her product. I also ordered an engraved LCD cover plate from Ken, WB2ART. As with Rose, Ken and I exchanged a few e-mails back and forth. I asked him to match the color of the HOLD printing on the face of my K3 and he matched it very well. I ordered 2 and he also had them finished and to me within a week. I am sure some of you are thinking "So What!" Well, this is the first NEW rig I have ever owned in my 40+ years of ham radio. I was finally able to afford a good rig and the K3 was my only choice. I have used several different high end radios at the contest station of Tom, K8AZ. For the money I was very impressed with the K3. So being it is my first new rig I want to show it off the best way I can. hi hi 73's Tim Herrick, KQ8M k...@kq8m.com __ Elecraft mailing list Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm Post: mailto:Elecraft@mailman.qth.net This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html
[Elecraft] US 60 Meter Band Changes Approved by FCC
Yesterday (18 November 2011), the FCC published its approval of changes to the US 60 meter band. http://transition.fcc.gov/Daily_Releases/Daily_Business/2011/db1118/FCC-11-171A1.pdf Summary: (1) Use of the existing 5366.5 kHz (carrier) is removed, replaced by 5357.0 kHz (carrier). (2) Maximum ERP raised from 50 to 100 watts PEP. (3) Three emission modes (CW, RTTY, Data) are authorized in addition to the existing USB mode. Effective 30 days after publication in the Federal Register. Mike / KK5F __ Elecraft mailing list Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm Post: mailto:Elecraft@mailman.qth.net This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html
Re: [Elecraft] SLUSB and K3
Another thing to check is the internal SLUSB audio level settings for RX and TX. I had to set the pin for boosting the RX audio level to get it working between my K3 and my iMac. I use Cocoa Modem on the iMac. Other then standard settings you need to do for K3, this was the only "experiment" I had to do before I got it to work. This is documented in the SLUSB user manual under the section "Special Jumpers". 73, phil, K7PEH On Nov 19, 2011, at 11:04 AM, David Herring wrote: > Hey Joel, > > Since you have used the SLUSB with the Yaesu, have you cross-referenced the > jumpers across the jumper block inside the SLUSB with the K3 cable to make > sure that the jumpers are putting the signals out on the right pins for said > K3 cable? > > I have never used a Yaesu cable or a commercial K3 cable with the SLUSB (I > made my own cable using a cat-5 ethernet cable), so this may be a moot > suggestion, but then on the other hand, it would not be the first time that > cables from the same manufacturer required a different pin out... > > 73 & Aloha, > Dave, AH6TD > > > On Nov 19, 2011, at 8:54 AM, Joel Black wrote: > >> Sorry, I failed to mention that I am familiar with setting up the >> SLUSB. I used it with my FT-857. That was my oversight for not >> mentioning it. I'm just trying to get it working with the K3. I'm just >> missing something. >> >> The E-MU 0204 is working FB right now with the K3 so I know the audio >> I/O works on the back with a soundcard. It's just going to take me >> getting the right combination. However, the 0204 is going to be my >> panadapter input so I will need to figure out the SLUSB. >> >> I appreciate all the helpful suggestions. >> >> Again, my apologies for cross-posting. >> >> 73, >> Joel - W4JBB >> __ >> Elecraft mailing list >> Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft >> Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm >> Post: mailto:Elecraft@mailman.qth.net >> >> This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net >> Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html > > __ > Elecraft mailing list > Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft > Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm > Post: mailto:Elecraft@mailman.qth.net > > This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net > Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html __ Elecraft mailing list Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm Post: mailto:Elecraft@mailman.qth.net This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html
Re: [Elecraft] SLUSB and K3
Hey Joel, Since you have used the SLUSB with the Yaesu, have you cross-referenced the jumpers across the jumper block inside the SLUSB with the K3 cable to make sure that the jumpers are putting the signals out on the right pins for said K3 cable? I have never used a Yaesu cable or a commercial K3 cable with the SLUSB (I made my own cable using a cat-5 ethernet cable), so this may be a moot suggestion, but then on the other hand, it would not be the first time that cables from the same manufacturer required a different pin out... 73 & Aloha, Dave, AH6TD On Nov 19, 2011, at 8:54 AM, Joel Black wrote: > Sorry, I failed to mention that I am familiar with setting up the > SLUSB. I used it with my FT-857. That was my oversight for not > mentioning it. I'm just trying to get it working with the K3. I'm just > missing something. > > The E-MU 0204 is working FB right now with the K3 so I know the audio > I/O works on the back with a soundcard. It's just going to take me > getting the right combination. However, the 0204 is going to be my > panadapter input so I will need to figure out the SLUSB. > > I appreciate all the helpful suggestions. > > Again, my apologies for cross-posting. > > 73, > Joel - W4JBB > __ > Elecraft mailing list > Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft > Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm > Post: mailto:Elecraft@mailman.qth.net > > This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net > Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html __ Elecraft mailing list Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm Post: mailto:Elecraft@mailman.qth.net This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html
[Elecraft] SLUSB and K3
Sorry, I failed to mention that I am familiar with setting up the SLUSB. I used it with my FT-857. That was my oversight for not mentioning it. I'm just trying to get it working with the K3. I'm just missing something. The E-MU 0204 is working FB right now with the K3 so I know the audio I/O works on the back with a soundcard. It's just going to take me getting the right combination. However, the 0204 is going to be my panadapter input so I will need to figure out the SLUSB. I appreciate all the helpful suggestions. Again, my apologies for cross-posting. 73, Joel - W4JBB __ Elecraft mailing list Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm Post: mailto:Elecraft@mailman.qth.net This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html
Re: [Elecraft] Possible AC Line noise
A KX1 works really well for me with the hot wire fences around here. I use a Buddipole whip sticking out of the pocket in my cargo shorts, and just start walking. I collapse the whip as I get close to lower the signal, sometimes just disconnecting it altogether. I've always found it, weeds growing up or some place where the stock bent the wire into the fence or a tree. I made a deal with all the neighbors that I'd just fix it and not bother them. Never takes more than a minute or two. 30m seems best. If you're going to fix it hot, remember: "Ground end first, then connect to wire." :-)) 73, Fred K6DGW - Northern California Contest Club - CU in the 2012 Cal QSO Party 6-7 Oct 2012 - www.cqp.org On 11/19/2011 10:10 AM, Fred Atchley wrote: > Gary at Elecraft ALSO suggested using a portable AM/FN radio set to > maximum of the interference and doing a walkthrough. Keep the antenna > horizontal and rotate the direction to find "hot" spots. It works! Good luck > and 73, Fred, AE6IC __ Elecraft mailing list Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm Post: mailto:Elecraft@mailman.qth.net This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html
Re: [Elecraft] (OT) EFHW Vertical Antenna
Stan and group, Just finished building my vertical antenna, and wanted to say it works as advertised. I built it on a 31' Jackite Flag pole that I had, I built my own UNUN with core from Palomar, and using 25' of RG-58 and the antenna mounted on my patio it tunes up on 40-10 meters using my MFJ auto tuner 929. I like the idea of no radials the most, and while it's not as good as my indoor doublet in the garage, on 40 and 30 meters, on 20 and above, it is better. So, with both my antennas now, I can operate and have fun. Thanks again for posting this Stan. 73, Bill, k6mgo -- View this message in context: http://elecraft.365791.n2.nabble.com/OT-EFHW-Vertical-Antenna-tp6980239p7011802.html Sent from the Elecraft mailing list archive at Nabble.com. __ Elecraft mailing list Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm Post: mailto:Elecraft@mailman.qth.net This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html
Re: [Elecraft] Possible AC Line noise
Mark, I had a noise problem too. I just new it was the next door neighbor's solar panel! With the P3 set to visualize the noise, I went around the house unplugging stuff. As it turned out, the noise was being generated by a cheap replacement laptop power supply! It's the old story of out of sight, out of mind. Gary at Elecraft ALSO suggested using a portable AM/FN radio set to maximum of the interference and doing a walkthrough. Keep the antenna horizontal and rotate the direction to find "hot" spots. It works! Good luck and 73, Fred, AE6IC __ Elecraft mailing list Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm Post: mailto:Elecraft@mailman.qth.net This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html
Re: [Elecraft] SignaLink Wiring
May I suggest temporary put the SLUSB aside and connect to computer sound card and get things working. This will give u a chance to get familiar with the connections required and then introduce the SLUSB. I used a SLUSB with my Kenwood and ot was quite easy to set up. I have not found it necessary to use it with K3. ...bill nr4c Sent from my Verizon Wireless 4GLTE Phone -Original message- From: Joel Black To: elecraft@mailman.qth.net Sent: Sat, Nov 19, 2011 12:42:29 GMT+00:00 Subject: Re: [Elecraft] SignaLink Wiring Well, I appreciate the help, but I cannot get the SignaLink working. I can use my computer soundcard, but not the SLUSB. I was even able to make a WINMOR connection (with the PC soundcard); however, my transmit to receive turnaround time is slow. I read about making the radio use the same tx and rx filters. I'll try that. Regarding the SLUSB, I may not be hooking it up correctly on the back of the radio, but I'm not sure where else I'd hook it up without turning off something on the front. I'm using LINE IN and LINE OUT for audio, but nothing seems to make it to the software (any software). I'm new to this K3 and I know I'll eventually figure it out. I will admit, I have not completely read the manual - I have been focusing on the DATA section. Thanks again. 73, Joel - W4JBB On 11/18/2011 5:44 PM, Joel Black wrote: > If anyone is using the SignaLink USB, can someone tell me the wiring to > the K3? > > I think I have rolled Line In and Line Out. > > Here's what I have: > > From the SignaLink RJ-45: > > Pin 1 -> SPKR goes to LINE IN (mono) on the K3 > Pin 2 -> GND > Pin 3 -> MIC goes to LINE OUT (stereo connection with tip and gnd only) > on the K3 > Pin 4 -> GND > Pin 5 -> PTT goes to PTT IN on the K3 > Pin 6 -> GND > > Please don't get into the argument about how I can just use the LINE > IN/LINE OUT and connect to my computer's soundcard. I am aware of > that. I have very specific and very good reasons for using the > SignaLink. I just need some help with the wiring. > > Thanks, > Joel - W4JBB __ Elecraft mailing list Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm Post: mailto:Elecraft@mailman.qth.net This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html __ Elecraft mailing list Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm Post: mailto:Elecraft@mailman.qth.net This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html
[Elecraft] P3 upgade
I recently bought a kit K3/100 and P3, and am most impressed with it, but could do with a large screen display for the P3. I understand one is rumoured to be nearly available for general distribution. Any information on when the upgrade to the P3 will be available to include external SVGA output? Chris Plummer G8APB __ Elecraft mailing list Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm Post: mailto:Elecraft@mailman.qth.net This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html
Re: [Elecraft] Possible AC Line noise
Have you tried turning off breakers to see if it's coming from somewhere in the house? GL & 73, Tim - N3XX - Original Message - From: To: Sent: Saturday, November 19, 2011 9:18 AM Subject: [Elecraft] Possible AC Line noise > Yesterday, I entered excessive band noise. But this morning the band > noise was gone as of 7:00. But now the S-Meter go from 0 up to 7 in > spikes. This is on 12 meters. Could this be AC Line noise from the > powerpole? I put in a problem request with my local power company and > they were very receptive to coming out and check for any problems on the > pole. I hope I did the correct thing! Mark KB3Z __ Elecraft mailing list Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm Post: mailto:Elecraft@mailman.qth.net This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html
Re: [Elecraft] SignaLink Wiring
I use a SignaLink USB routinely on my K3/P3 combo, my K3 before that, and on my K2 before it. I am using it with FLDIGI 3.21.26 at the moment, and with a Dell XPS 420 and the WIN 7 sound system, but I have also used it with Airlink Express/DigiPan, with a Flex 3000, and with an ICOM 910H, also on a netbook with DigiPan and WIN XP. There was never any sort of installation problem, and I would be glad to share my settings off-server. It is a great little box. John Ragle -- W1ZI = On 11/19/2011 8:52 AM, tomb18 wrote: > I ordered one just last week but since I was out of town for business, it's > at my office. I might pick it up this weekend and try the install. I did > buy the cable for the K3, > I do know that there are some settings in the K3 config menu, to set mic in > and audio out to the back panel of the K3. Did you set these? > I'll be at it soon, maybe today or tomorrow. > > > -- > View this message in context: > http://elecraft.365791.n2.nabble.com/SignaLink-Wiring-tp7010167p7011378.html > Sent from the Elecraft mailing list archive at Nabble.com. > __ > Elecraft mailing list > Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft > Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm > Post: mailto:Elecraft@mailman.qth.net > > This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net > Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html > > > -- Sent from my lovely old Dell XPS 420 __ Elecraft mailing list Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm Post: mailto:Elecraft@mailman.qth.net This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html
[Elecraft] FS: KPA100 and KAT100 in EC2 case
I have a KPA100 amp and KAT100 tuner mounted in an EC2 case. Units were built by me. Works fine, small scratches on rear of side panels (very minor). Reason for selling - have K3/100, don't need the power for the K2. $450, I ship CONUS. Thanks and 73, Mike, W1USN __ Elecraft mailing list Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm Post: mailto:Elecraft@mailman.qth.net This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html
[Elecraft] Possible AC Line noise
Yesterday, I entered excessive band noise. But this morning the band noise was gone as of 7:00. But now the S-Meter go from 0 up to 7 in spikes. This is on 12 meters. Could this be AC Line noise from the powerpole? I put in a problem request with my local power company and they were very receptive to coming out and check for any problems on the pole. I hope I did the correct thing! Mark KB3Z __ Elecraft mailing list Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm Post: mailto:Elecraft@mailman.qth.net This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html
Re: [Elecraft] PTT Non-Issue
Whoops, should have looked at the next message before replying! On Friday, 18 November 2011, Brian Moran wrote: > Sorry folks for the wasted bandwidth -- having never seen that message before, didn't realize the dial was outside the band; the K3 was smarter than I was and not letting me key the radio! > > Sorry for the Bart Simpson (Doh!) moment... > Brian N9ADG > __ > Elecraft mailing list > Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft > Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm > Post: mailto:Elecraft@mailman.qth.net > > This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net > Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html > -- Sent from Gmail Mobile __ Elecraft mailing list Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm Post: mailto:Elecraft@mailman.qth.net This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html
Re: [Elecraft] PTT issue K3
Are you in split mode and vfo b is out of a ham band? 73 Stephen G4SJP On Friday, 18 November 2011, Brian Moran wrote: > Hi Folks -- has anyone encountered an issue where when the PTT is pressed, instead of the radio keying "BAND END" is displayed on the display? This occurs regardless of whether the microphone does it, or the PTT jack in the back is used to key the radio. > > I am about to reset the radio (downloading the manual now), but wondered if anyone else has seen this? > > PS - Elecraft -- the "lower resolution" manual link is the same as the high resolution manual link on the web site, at 12.9MB > > Thanks, > Brian N9ADG > __ > Elecraft mailing list > Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft > Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm > Post: mailto:Elecraft@mailman.qth.net > > This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net > Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html > -- Sent from Gmail Mobile __ Elecraft mailing list Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm Post: mailto:Elecraft@mailman.qth.net This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html
Re: [Elecraft] SignaLink Wiring
I ordered one just last week but since I was out of town for business, it's at my office. I might pick it up this weekend and try the install. I did buy the cable for the K3, I do know that there are some settings in the K3 config menu, to set mic in and audio out to the back panel of the K3. Did you set these? I'll be at it soon, maybe today or tomorrow. -- View this message in context: http://elecraft.365791.n2.nabble.com/SignaLink-Wiring-tp7010167p7011378.html Sent from the Elecraft mailing list archive at Nabble.com. __ Elecraft mailing list Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm Post: mailto:Elecraft@mailman.qth.net This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html
Re: [Elecraft] SignaLink Wiring
Well, I appreciate the help, but I cannot get the SignaLink working. I can use my computer soundcard, but not the SLUSB. I was even able to make a WINMOR connection (with the PC soundcard); however, my transmit to receive turnaround time is slow. I read about making the radio use the same tx and rx filters. I'll try that. Regarding the SLUSB, I may not be hooking it up correctly on the back of the radio, but I'm not sure where else I'd hook it up without turning off something on the front. I'm using LINE IN and LINE OUT for audio, but nothing seems to make it to the software (any software). I'm new to this K3 and I know I'll eventually figure it out. I will admit, I have not completely read the manual - I have been focusing on the DATA section. Thanks again. 73, Joel - W4JBB On 11/18/2011 5:44 PM, Joel Black wrote: > If anyone is using the SignaLink USB, can someone tell me the wiring to > the K3? > > I think I have rolled Line In and Line Out. > > Here's what I have: > > From the SignaLink RJ-45: > > Pin 1 -> SPKR goes to LINE IN (mono) on the K3 > Pin 2 -> GND > Pin 3 -> MIC goes to LINE OUT (stereo connection with tip and gnd only) > on the K3 > Pin 4 -> GND > Pin 5 -> PTT goes to PTT IN on the K3 > Pin 6 -> GND > > Please don't get into the argument about how I can just use the LINE > IN/LINE OUT and connect to my computer's soundcard. I am aware of > that. I have very specific and very good reasons for using the > SignaLink. I just need some help with the wiring. > > Thanks, > Joel - W4JBB __ Elecraft mailing list Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm Post: mailto:Elecraft@mailman.qth.net This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html
[Elecraft] WTB: K3
Before I order a new one, if anyone is contemplating selling their K3 please contact me off list @ n...@woh.rr.com and give me the details. Thanks Tim NZ8J __ Elecraft mailing list Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm Post: mailto:Elecraft@mailman.qth.net This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html
[Elecraft] N2CQ QRP Contest Calendar: Nov 10 - Dec 19, 2011
~ N2CQ QRP CONTEST CALENDAR November 19 to December 19, 2011 ~ LZ DX CONTEST (CW/SSB) ... QRP Category Nov 19, 1200z to Nov 20, 1200z Rules: http://lzdx.bfra.org/rulesen.html ~ Feld Hell Club Sprint (Feld Hell) ... QRP Category Nov 19, 1600z to 1800z Rules: http://sites.google.com/site/feldhellclub/Home ~ ARRL Sweepstakes (Phone) ... QRP Category Nov 19, 2100z to Nov 21, 0259z Rules: http://www.arrl.org/sweepstakes ~ NA Collegiate ARC Championship (Phone) .. QRP Category Nov 19, 2100z to Nov 21, 0259z Rules: http://www.collegiatechampionship.org/rules/ ~ European PSK Club - PSK63 QSO Party ... 100W. Max Nov 20, z to 2359z Rules: http://www.eu.srars.org/ ~ Homebrew & OldTime (HOT) Equipment Party ... QRP Category Nov 20, 1300z to 1700z Rules: http://www.qrpcc.de/contestrules/hotr.html ~ RUN FOR THE BACON (CW) *** QRP CONTEST *** EST: Nov 20, 9 PM to 11 PM UTC: Nov 21, 0200z to 0400z Rules: http://fpqrp.org/ ~ UBA Foxhunt (CW/PSK31/SSB) *** QRP Contest *** Nov 21, 1930z to 2030z Rules: http://www.on5ex.be/foxhunt/foxhunt.html ~ SKCC Sprint (Straight Key CW) ... QRP Awards Nov 23, z to 0200z Rules: http://www.skccgroup.com/sprint/sks/ ~ 80 METER FOXHUNT (CW) *** QRP Contest *** Nov 23, 0200z to 0329z Info: http://www.qrpfoxhunt.org/ ~ CWops Mini-CWT Test (CW) ... QRP Category Nov 23, 1300z to 1400z and Nov 23, 1900z to 2000z and Nov 24, 0300z to 0400z Rules: http://www.cwops.org/onair.html ~ 40 METER FOXHUNT (CW) *** QRP Contest *** Nov 25, 0200z to 0329z Info: http://www.qrpfoxhunt.org/ ~ CQ World Wide DX Contest (CW) ... QRP Category! Nov 26, z to Nov 27, 2359z Rules: http://www.cqww.com/rules.php ~ UBA Foxhunt (CW/PSK31/SSB) *** QRP Contest *** Nov 28, 1930z to 2030z Rules: http://www.on5ex.be/foxhunt/foxhunt.html ~ 80 METER FOXHUNT (CW) *** QRP Contest *** Nov 30, 0200z to 0329z Info: http://www.qrpfoxhunt.org/ ~ QRP ARCI Topband CW & SSB Sprint *** QRP CONTEST *** Dec 1, z to 0600z Rules: http://www.qrparci.org/content/view/5267/118/ ~ 40 METER FOXHUNT (CW) *** QRP Contest *** Dec 2, 0200z to 0329z Info: http://www.qrpfoxhunt.org/ ~ ARRL 160 meter Contest (CW) ... QRP Category Dec 2, 2200z to Dec 4, 1600z Rules: http://www.arrl.org/160-meter ~ TARA RTTY Mêlée ... 150W category Dec 3, z to 2400z Rules: http://www.n2ty.org/seasons/tara_melee_rules.html ~ Wake-Up! QRP Sprint (CW) *** QRP Contest *** Dec 3, 0600z to 0800z Rules: http://qrp.ru/modules/sections/index.php?op=viewarticle&artid=7&page=1 ~ TOPS Activity 80 Meter Contest (80M CW) ... QRP Category Dec 3, 1600z to Dec 4, 1759z Rules: http://procwclub.yo6ex.ro/TOP%20OF%20OPERATORS%20ACTIVITY%20CONTEST.pdf ~ Adventure Radio Spartan Sprint (CW) *** QRP Contest *** Dec 6, 0200z to 0400z Rules: http://adventure-radio.org/wiki/index.php?title=Spartan_Sprints ~ 80 METER FOXHUNT (CW) *** QRP Contest *** Dec 7, 0200z to 0329z Info: http://www.qrpfoxhunt.org/ ~ 40 METER FOXHUNT (CW) *** QRP Contest *** Dec 9, 0200z to 0329z Info: http://www.qrpfoxhunt.org/ ~ ARRL 10 Meter Contest (CW/SSB) ... QRP Category Dec 10, z to Dec 11, 2359z Rules: http://www.arrl.org/10-meter ~ CWops Mini-CWT Test (CW) ... QRP Category Dec 10, 1300z to 1400z and Dec 10, 1900z to 2000z and Dec 11, 0300z to 0400z Rules: http://www.cwops.org/onair.html ~ UBA Low Band Winter Contest (CW/SSB/RTTY/PSK) .. QRP Category D
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