Re: [Elecraft] (Elecraft) Laptops/Notebook Suggestions

2013-02-14 Thread zumbruns

I would like to second Tony, KT0NY, regarding ASUS 11.6", Core I3, Win 8 
Laptop.  I purchased one about one month ago at Best Buy for less than $500.  I 
had been shopping for small laptop for some time with Win 8 but did not want to 
spend $1000 for one.  The ASUS fits the bill very nicely and works with the 
K3/KX3 very well.  Would highly recommend.  73, Steve W0SZ
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[Elecraft] KBPF3 General Coverage Receive Option Questions

2013-02-14 Thread Edward R Cole

N1LQ-Dave:

I have the KBPF3 installed in my main receiver.  I needed it to use 
my K3 down on the 600m band (495-510 KHz), so having it in the main 
radio is necessary for transmitting on 600m using the TEST 
mode.  Probably not a very common usage, but I thought to mention this.


I have the 13-KHz FM filter, 2.8-MHz and 400-Hz CW filter installed 
in the main receiver, so only use the 13-KHz filter for VHF-FM or BC 
AM.  Use of the DSP filter makes the 13-KHz filter a good choice as 
roofing filter, since one can tailor bw using the DSP filter.  Audio 
bw is <4-KHz in any case.


73, Ed - KL7UW

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Re: [Elecraft] K3 Reduced BW FSK

2013-02-14 Thread Ken Chandler
Interesting thread on the AFSK DSP width reduction.
Supposing all goes well, will we see a release of new firmware which will  
include the new data!!!

Ken..G0ORH - M3i

Sent from my iPhone 4

CW4EVER 


On 14 Feb 2013, at 00:06, "Mark n2qt"  wrote:

I had missed that this wasn’t discussed on  this reflector, so first a little 
history

At the end of December, on the RTTY reflector, Andy K0SM/2 produced 
measurements showing that the 
use of FSK, which had been the ‘gold standard’ for generating RTTY was actually 
not as spectrally efficient 
as correctly adjusted, shaped AFSK generated RTTY.   This was shown in his 
write-up posted at 

http://www.frontiernet.net/~aflowers/k3rtty/k3rtty.html

Note that this does NOT indicate that there was any sort of problem with the 
K3, just that there was a chance
to be better.  Other manufacturers also have this same chance to improve.

A little later, Ed, W0YK, also known as P49X in many contests, announced that 
he had successfully used
experimental DSP firmware from Elecraft in the BARTG rtty contest.  

“The K3 DSP firmware engineer coded a  wave-shaping filter that narrows the 
transmit bandwidth similar to 
what their AFSK filter provides. The resulting spectrum image looks  like the 
better, i.e., narrowest, of the 
images in K0SM's  recent work.”

Elecraft then allowed Ed to share this firmware with others who were interested 
in trying it, which is how I got it. 

As anyone who was in the WPX RTTY contest this past weekend knows, anything 
that can help reduce the
unnecessary interference from overly wide transmissions is more than welcome.  
It is great that Elecraft has 
reacted so quickly to this opportunity.  (Would we expect anything less from 
these guys??)

Mark N2QT/WE4M

From: Stephen Prior 
Sent: Wednesday, February 13, 2013 3:22 AM
To: Mark 
Cc: elecraft@mailman.qth.net 
Subject: Re: [Elecraft] K3 Reduced BW FSK

Mark,

You will have to enlighten us (well, me anyway) - just what pre-beta software 
are you referring to?

73 Stephen G4SJP



On 13 February 2013 04:10, Mark  wrote:

 Just a report that I used the pre beta low bandwidth fsk software on both k3s 
during the
 WPX RTTY contest.  Made over 1900 low power contacts, with no apparent problems
 (As expected).  As close as some stations felt comfortable operating next to 
me, it looks
 like it helps.

 With the ever increasing popularity of rtty contesting, improvements like this 
helps
 us all.


 Mark. N2QT/WE4M
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Re: [Elecraft] K144XV Problem

2013-02-14 Thread K7MDL
Might double check your xvtr settings in the menus and make sure they look
right.  If you have a recent good config backup of the K3 you can try
restoring it.  

Other things to try:
- Direct setting the frequency via the keypad.
- If you have quick memories assigned to  M1-4 keys to set 2M favorite
frequencies try that.
- Check to see if you can hear a known frequency like packet on 144.390MHz
or a FM repeater. Perhaps the .XXX portion of the dial is accurate as is the
xvrter and the XXX. portion of the display frequency is corrupt.
- Spin the dial either side of 146.0 causes the xverter to switch local LOs.

Any of these methods might get you back were you belong. 

- Mike



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[Elecraft] K3XREF Question

2013-02-14 Thread Edward R Cole

KD7YZ Bob:

Not your original question, but most are not aware that the common 
J-pole is a vertical polarized Zepp.  I built a dual-band J-pole for 
6m/10m and use a coax relay to switch feed selection for either 
band.  No tuner required for the band segment I desired.  Full description at:

http://www.kl7uw.com/J-Pole.htm

73, Ed - KL7UW

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Re: [Elecraft] Laptops & Notebooks

2013-02-14 Thread Robert Biamonte

Hi Steve,
I just used my three year old Macbook Pro to do the firmware upgrade  
on my K3 and it worked perfectly. The USB cable which I got from  
Elecraft worked as advertised, the Mac knew it was there and the  
upgrade transferred in a reasonable time.
You might want to point your Safari to the refurb department at the  
Apple Store, which I have done for friends, and gotten great deals on  
reliable stuff.  :)

73
Rob WB2OMW



I'm a mac guy and have a 27" iMac which has MacLoggerDeluxe on it.  
After using a couple of different programs over the last year, I'm  
thinking that it might be more useful to have a notebook or laptop  
(small) that will fit into my small space with my radio (a K2).  
Seems like logging software on the mac side is limited in terms of  
functionality.


I'm thinking I want to run N1MM logger, but am up to suggestions.  
I do run the occasional contest or two, but I'm not what you would  
call a contester per se.


73
Steve
W1SFR



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[Elecraft] [K2] KAT2 Question

2013-02-14 Thread Brian Handy
Hey all,

I've been working on the KAT2 module for my K2.  Mostly making progress but 
stumped in the bridge null adjustment.

I was having problems with C55, and getting silly readings on U4 Pin1, so after 
staring at my board for a while, I went to the web for a while and read about 
other folks' problems and figured out I had wired J7 backwards on the control 
board.  I fixed that, which brings us to my problem...

I set ATU CALn in the menu, exit, hit 'TUNE' like I did before, and instead of 
getting the mV reading like I was before, I just get a power reading - e.g. "P 
4.5".  I can't seem to get back to what I was looking at before.

I went back and checked the other tests again ... I have everything in ATU mode 
in the menu, I can make the relays go clicky-click when I run through that set 
of options in the ATU menu, but I can't get this null mode to work.  I was able 
to get it to work when I had the RF cable J7 wired up wrong.

Ideas?

Thanks,

Brian Handy
AE7JW
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Re: [Elecraft] [K2] KAT2 Question

2013-02-14 Thread Don Wilhelm

Brian,

Are you certain you had the J7 connector backwards?  The coax shield 
should be toward the right side panel.
The results you are now getting indicate that you have something wrong 
with what you changed.
That power reading is likely coming from the K2 RF board RF output 
detector rather than from the KAT2.  If that is the case, the KAT2 is 
not being recognized - check the connector to the Control Board.


An inability to achieve a null on C55 is usually an indication of a 
problem with T1.  Check that it is wound in the same direction as shown 
in the manual.  Check that the proper color leads are in the right 
holes.  Look at the solder side of T1 - there should be no rings in the 
solder around the leads - that is an indication that the leads were not 
well stripped and tinned.
I would suggest removing T1 and re-winding it.  It MUST look just like 
the diagram in the manual or it will not function properly.


73,
Don W3FPR

On 2/14/2013 9:18 AM, Brian Handy wrote:

Hey all,

I've been working on the KAT2 module for my K2.  Mostly making progress but 
stumped in the bridge null adjustment.

I was having problems with C55, and getting silly readings on U4 Pin1, so after 
staring at my board for a while, I went to the web for a while and read about 
other folks' problems and figured out I had wired J7 backwards on the control 
board.  I fixed that, which brings us to my problem...

I set ATU CALn in the menu, exit, hit 'TUNE' like I did before, and instead of getting 
the mV reading like I was before, I just get a power reading - e.g. "P 4.5".  I 
can't seem to get back to what I was looking at before.

I went back and checked the other tests again ... I have everything in ATU mode 
in the menu, I can make the relays go clicky-click when I run through that set 
of options in the ATU menu, but I can't get this null mode to work.  I was able 
to get it to work when I had the RF cable J7 wired up wrong.




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[Elecraft] K3 with 2m module K144XV

2013-02-14 Thread Lance Collister, W7GJ
I need some guidance.  I have a K3 with the optional high stability reference 
oscillator option.  I have been very pleased with the frequency stability of the unit 
up through 6m.  Next month I am interested in ordering the K144XV so I can also use 
the rig for 2m EME with JT65B mode.


Is there anyone out there currently using such a setup successfully on 2m EME?   Is 
it stable enough as-is, or will I need to also add the K3EXREF and some additional 
outboard frequency standard?  I would like to avoid involvement with the K3EXREF 
unless it is required.   I do not plan to use the K3 2m as an IF for microwave 
transverters, so I hope it will be stable enough on 2m without it.   I look forward 
to your experience! MNI TNX and VY 73, Lance**


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[Elecraft] Morse in the Hair

2013-02-14 Thread Ron D'Eau Claire
For all of you CW buffs who haven't noticed, Bobak Ferdowski, the "Mohawk
Guy" mission controller on the Curioisity project, has added JPL cut into
his hair in Morse on the left side of his head. Of course JPL is the
initials of the NASA's Jet Propulsion Lab in Pasadena, CA.

http://l2.yimg.com/bt/api/res/1.2/EpfrbiJg2gi4_gOCCWTM3Q--/YXBwaWQ9eW5ld3M7Z
mk9aW5zZXQ7aD0zMjM7cT03OTt3PTU3NQ--/http://media.zenfs.com/en_US/News/SPACE.
com/NASA%27s_%27Mohawk_Guy%27_to_Sit-c1429c55a5d39f22e3b37c135a5b589f


I don't know if he owns any Elecraft gear so I'll leave it there. 

73, Ron AC7AC



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Re: [Elecraft] OT: G5RV's and variants

2013-02-14 Thread Barry LaZar

Ron,
I've modeled my antennas using EZNEC. What I've found is that the 
horizontal pattern  is more sensitive to conductor length on dipoles. 
Electrical height determines vertical angle of arrival. For NVIS work on 
40 30' high is good; double that for 80. However,as you get higher than 
1/4 wave the lobes start to lay down. there is an exception to this and 
that is a null that is created at the horizon that can occur when you 
get to certain heights between 1-2 wavelengths above ground. It's part 
of an interference pattern.


The Carolina Windoms are really interesting affairs. they are 
designed to have radiation from a part of the feed near the dipole. I've 
chosen to use an18' radiation length on my 66 footer. This allows a 
little better radiation at the horizon on the lower frequencies with a 
small impact on ten. However, at 22' things got crazy, so, 18' became 
the magic number.


Using these configurations for a fair number of years I find that 
this seems to work. I do reach out and touch people when band conditions 
are in good shape, and in the present iteration, the antenna is at about 
40' on one end and about 30 feet on the other. This is not by design but 
rather by aim and the slope of the ground. I do run both QRP, ~5 Watts 
and QRO, 100 Watts.


What I do and what I say about antennas are NOT absolute. These are 
good guides that can be tailored for specific locations. The only 
important thing to remember, IMHO, is antenna tuners take care of many 
bad estimates and low loss feed lines mask many mistakes.


73,
Barry
K3NDM



On 2/14/2013 1:29 AM, Ron D'Eau Claire wrote:

If you like to use it for chasing DX on 10 meters, you'll get better results
with a slightly shorter radiator - something about 42 feet overall. That's
because a longer antenna generates a big lobe pointing straight up on 10
meters  - not very helpful for DX-ing on that band. At 42 feet the main
lobes are still down near the horizon on 10 meters.

At 42 feet, the efficiency is excellent down as low as 40 meters.

73, Ron AC7AC

-Original Message-
From: elecraft-boun...@mailman.qth.net
[mailto:elecraft-boun...@mailman.qth.net] On Behalf Of k3...@comcast.net
Sent: Wednesday, February 13, 2013 5:37 PM
To: Ken G Kopp
Cc: elecraft@mailman.qth.net
Subject: Re: [Elecraft] OT: G5RV's and variants

>From my experience, hams misunderstand antennas more than anything else
they have as a part of their station. What I've been able to discover for
the popularity of the G5RV is that you have an "all band antenna" in just
102'. The other issues have to do with the concept of resonance in an
antenna system and the need for it.

I guess I'm just not smart enough to worry about all of the issues. My
approach has been to just hang up 132' or 66' of wire fed in the center with
open wire to a 4:1 balun near the house. My transition into the house is
either something like LMR-240 or LMR-400 to my tuner. I can use this
configuration either 80-10 or 40-10. Resonance? I really don't worry about
it too much as my tuner can address the issue for me thereby making my
transmitter happy. I don't worry about losses either. With low loss feeds,
there is little loss, even at 10 meters, with SWRs as high as 10:1.
Simplicity is key here.

The antenna that I now have up is roughly equivalent to a 40 meter Carolina
Windom, modified. My thinking on this gets a little convoluted, but it
works. For a new installation with the room, I would suggest the center fed
dipole with low loss feeds into a good tuner. And, oh yes, get it up as high
as possible.

73,
Barry
K3NDM

- Original Message -
From: "Ken G Kopp" 
To: elecraft@mailman.qth.net
Sent: Wednesday, February 13, 2013 6:06:25 PM
Subject: [Elecraft] OT: G5RV's and variants

It's already been pointed out that the original article by G5RV indicated
that the antenna was for 20M only.
I have the original article in my files.

I've always wondered why builders of the antenna simply don't make an
open-wire fed Zepp and stop there.
Why add a "magic" length of coax ... without any kind of impedance matching
... to what would otherwise be a Zepp? Yes, the length of the coax portion
of the feeder acts as an impedance transformer ... on 20M.
On other bands, all bets are off. (:-)

The antenna requires an antenna tuner to operate on bands other than 20M.
Many tuners contain a balun so one has the option of either coax or balanced
line feeders. Why not avoid the coax-to-balanced line splice with it's
almost certain mismatch losses and connect the balanced line portion of the
G5RV's feeder directly to the tuner? If the tuner as no internal balun, one
can be made or purchased.

I once knew a local who actually coiled the coax portion of his G5RV's feed
"system" behind his desk and then connected it to his tuner. The end of the
balanced portion was within inches of his tuner's balanced line connections.


The G5RV certainly qualifies as a "cult" antenna.

73!

Ken Kopp - K0PP
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[Elecraft] K3 with 2m module K144XV

2013-02-14 Thread Edward R Cole

Lance,

As you know I am active on 2m-eme.  I can't give any opinion on the 
K144XV but have a couple comments on frequency stability requirements 
for JT65B.


Many stations use the "Freeze" function to reduce the decode spectrum 
to 20-Hz.  Mainly this is in a crowded band with many stations 
calling.  Therefore, I would say one needs overall frequency to stay 
within 20-Hz.  My DEMI 144-28 transverter drifts upward 5-Hz after 
running JT65 30-minutes at 50w.  My K3 adds about 2-Hz to that 
keeping the total drift easily within a 20-Hz target.


I have the K3EXREF installed with a surplus OCXO from e-bay (approx. 
$45) as 10-MHz standard.  That keeps the K3 at 28-MHz within +/- 2-Hz 
(or 0.1ppm).  Without the K3EXEF the K3 runs about 14-18 Hz off freq. 
which is close to the TCXO3-1 spec of 0.5ppm.  The transverter runs a 
PTC heated xtal oscillator on 116-MHz.


Actual drift on 28-MHz has not been measured on the K3 so it may be 
less.  You may be happy running the k3 without the K3EXREF.  It would 
all depend on the additional drift of the K144XV (so maybe some who 
have this will comment).


73, ED - KL7UW
PS: I have another DEMI 144-28 transverter with a VHF PLL and it is < 
+/- 1Hz.  I installed the PLL to have two LO freq. (116 $ 118 MHz) 
and for use with mw transverters.

-
Date: Thu, 14 Feb 2013 14:56:47 +
From: "Lance Collister, W7GJ" 
To: Elecraft Mailing List 
Subject: [Elecraft] K3 with 2m module K144XV
Message-ID: <511cfb2f.3060...@q.com>
Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed

I need some guidance.  I have a K3 with the optional high stability reference
oscillator option.  I have been very pleased with the frequency 
stability of the unit
up through 6m.  Next month I am interested in ordering the K144XV so 
I can also use

the rig for 2m EME with JT65B mode.

Is there anyone out there currently using such a setup successfully 
on 2m EME?   Is
it stable enough as-is, or will I need to also add the K3EXREF and 
some additional
outboard frequency standard?  I would like to avoid involvement with 
the K3EXREF

unless it is required.   I do not plan to use the K3 2m as an IF for microwave
transverters, so I hope it will be stable enough on 2m without 
it.   I look forward

to your experience! MNI TNX and VY 73, Lance**

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Re: [Elecraft] Morse in the Hair

2013-02-14 Thread Carey Magee
Hi Ron:

I believe that is also what is "printed" in the Mars ground when the rover
wheels roll around.  I think one of the wheels is cut to print JPL in the
Mars dust as it rolls exactly as it looks in the gentleman's haircut.
 Really cool stuff, indeed.


73,
Carey, K2RNY
Rochester New York
Grid: FN13ef


On Thu, Feb 14, 2013 at 12:27 PM, Ron D'Eau Claire  wrote:

> For all of you CW buffs who haven't noticed, Bobak Ferdowski, the "Mohawk
> Guy" mission controller on the Curioisity project, has added JPL cut into
> his hair in Morse on the left side of his head. Of course JPL is the
> initials of the NASA's Jet Propulsion Lab in Pasadena, CA.
>
>
> http://l2.yimg.com/bt/api/res/1.2/EpfrbiJg2gi4_gOCCWTM3Q--/YXBwaWQ9eW5ld3M7Z
> mk9aW5zZXQ7aD0zMjM7cT03OTt3PTU3NQ--/
> http://media.zenfs.com/en_US/News/SPACE.
> com/NASA%27s_%27Mohawk_Guy%27_to_Sit-c1429c55a5d39f22e3b37c135a5b589f
>
>
> I don't know if he owns any Elecraft gear so I'll leave it there.
>
> 73, Ron AC7AC
>
>
>
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[Elecraft] K2 Micro Manual Available in Apple App Store

2013-02-14 Thread Michael Downs
Attention K2 users:

I have a new app in the Apple App Store that provides the complete K2 Owner's 
Manual, plus most K2 Option Manuals, in an application you can download to your 
iPhone or iPod Touch. Very convenient way to have the Owner's Manual with you 
when you operate portable or mobile. Check the following link for details on 
the application:  
https://itunes.apple.com/WebObjects/MZStore.woa/wa/viewSoftware?id=591230037&mt=8

* K2 Micro Manual is a handy reference to the Elecraft K2 Owner's Manual.
* The application includes the entire text of the Owner's Manual related to 
operation of the K2.
* The application also includes most of the K2 Option Manuals, plus the K2 
Programmer's Reference.
* There hyperlinks on page numbers listed in the text of the Owner's Manual. 
Tap the page number hyperlink and the application will jump to the appropriate 
location in the text.
* A search tool is provided to allow full text search of each chapter of the K2 
Owner's Manual, K2 Option Manuals and Programmer's Reference.
* Finally the application includes a User Information window that allows the 
user to store and retrieve personal information for easy retrieval in the field 
such as K2 serial number, FISTS number, NAQCC number, date first licensed, 
first callsign, etc.

The application is available in the App Store for $0.99. Your feedback is 
always welcome. Enjoy.

73,
Mike ks7d
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Re: [Elecraft] OT: G5RV's and variants

2013-02-14 Thread Terry Schieler
Interesting observation, Ken.  After seeing a upsurge of interest in G5RV 
antennas discussed on various ham radio reflectors (and noting that the 
interest seems most enthusiastic among newly-minted hams), I honestly feel that 
the recommendations from one new ham to the next seems to be based on 
trumped-up theory that the G5RV is an all-band antenna.  Almost every new ham 
would like an inexpensive, easy-to-build, low profile antenna for "all bands".  
While we know that the G5RV *can* be made to work OK on several bands with a 
tuner, I feel that this new found G5RV interest is a self perpetuating rumor 
spreading like a bad cold among newcomers.  No one seems to want to explore the 
technical issues at hand.

Nice to know that someone has saved the original article.

73,

Terry, W0FM




-Original Message-
From: Ken G Kopp [mailto:kengk...@gmail.com] 
Sent: Wednesday, February 13, 2013 5:06 PM
To: elecraft@mailman.qth.net
Subject: [Elecraft] OT: G5RV's and variants

It's already been pointed out that the original article by G5RV indicated that 
the antenna was for 20M only.
I have the original article in my files.

I've always wondered why builders of the antenna simply don't make an open-wire 
fed Zepp and stop there.
Why add a "magic" length of coax ... without any kind of impedance matching ... 
to what would otherwise be a Zepp?  Yes, the length of the coax portion of the 
feeder acts as an impedance transformer ... on 20M.
On other bands, all bets are off. (:-)

The antenna requires an antenna tuner to operate on bands other than 20M.  Many 
tuners contain a balun so one has the option of either coax or balanced line 
feeders.  Why not avoid the coax-to-balanced line splice with it's almost 
certain mismatch losses and connect the balanced line portion of the G5RV's 
feeder directly to the tuner?  If the tuner as no internal balun, one can be 
made or purchased.

I once knew a local who actually coiled the coax portion of his G5RV's feed 
"system" behind his desk and then connected it to his tuner.  The end of the 
balanced portion was within inches of his tuner's balanced line connections.

The G5RV certainly qualifies as a "cult" antenna.

73!

Ken Kopp - K0PP


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Re: [Elecraft] K2 Micro Manual Available in Apple App Store

2013-02-14 Thread Gil G.
On Thu, 2013-02-14 at 14:34 -0500, Michael Downs wrote:
> Attention K2 users:
> 
> I have a new app in the Apple App Store that provides the complete K2 Owner's 
> Manual, 

I have a K2 manual if anyone wants it. I sold my K2 and couldn't find
the manual at the time. It has checks and build notes in it.
$5 through Paypal.

Gil.

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Re: [Elecraft] OT: G5RV's and variants

2013-02-14 Thread Elecraft K3
There is a reason that the G5RV is a good beginner's first antenna, IMO.  It is 
relatively easy to install.

Of course the same size antenna performs better as a doublet fed with balanced 
line, but I had a lot of trouble with balanced line when I was starting out.  I 
didn't know enough to get usable matches.  Feedline length, routing and balun 
issues, while simple for me to solve now, were just too much for me to solve in 
the beginning.

The G5RV got me on 10, 12, 15, 17, 20, 40, 60 and 80 all at once.  Admittedly 
not very well on all, but I made contacts on all those bands.

Another country heard from,

73 de Eric, KG6MZS 

> 
> I've always wondered why builders of the antenna simply don't make an 
> open-wire fed Zepp and stop there.

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Re: [Elecraft] OT: G5RV's and variants

2013-02-14 Thread hawley, charles j jr
Yes sure...
Kurt N. Sterba who once wrote an article in World Radio about how he connected 
two shopping carts to the end of his coax and worked the world.
So working this or that is very unimpressive. Have you ever been he a QSO and 
turned the power down from a 100 watts to 1 watt and were still Q5?

Sent from my iPad
Chuck, KE9UW 
(Jack for BMW motorcycles)

On Feb 14, 2013, at 2:38 PM, "Elecraft K3"  wrote:

> There is a reason that the G5RV is a good beginner's first antenna, IMO.  It 
> is relatively easy to install.
> 
> Of course the same size antenna performs better as a doublet fed with 
> balanced line, but I had a lot of trouble with balanced line when I was 
> starting out.  I didn't know enough to get usable matches.  Feedline length, 
> routing and balun issues, while simple for me to solve now, were just too 
> much for me to solve in the beginning.
> 
> The G5RV got me on 10, 12, 15, 17, 20, 40, 60 and 80 all at once.  Admittedly 
> not very well on all, but I made contacts on all those bands.
> 
> Another country heard from,
> 
> 73 de Eric, KG6MZS 
> 
>> 
>> I've always wondered why builders of the antenna simply don't make an 
>> open-wire fed Zepp and stop there.
> 
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[Elecraft] KE7X K3 book

2013-02-14 Thread Cady, Fred
Lulu seems to have a 20% discount until the end of February. Try
FEBBOOKS13.
Cheers and 73,
Fred KE7X

Fred Cady
"The Elecraft K3: Design, Configuration and Operation 2nd Edition"
www.ke7x.com
fcady at ieee dot org 

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Re: [Elecraft] OT: G5RV's and variants

2013-02-14 Thread Eric Swartz - WA6HHQ, Elecraft
Let's wrap up the G5RV OT discussion by the end of today in the interest 
of keeping list volume under control for others.


73,

Eric
List modulator
elecraft.com


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Re: [Elecraft] KX3 Two Meter Module (All Mode?)

2013-02-14 Thread Eric Swartz - WA6HHQ, Elecraft

Of course :-)
73,

Eric
elecraft.com

On 2/13/2013 10:42 PM, Ken Schillinger wrote:

Can we expect the 2 meter module to be of the "all mode" variety?

73 Ken




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Re: [Elecraft] OT: G5RV's and variants

2013-02-14 Thread Don Wilhelm
I have always been amused by the antenna adverts that say things like "I 
worked 100 countries in 6 hours" or some such nonsense.
Those type ads never give radiation patterns or any other meaningful 
data that can be used to compare with other antennas.


That does not mean that the ads were mis-leading, but the fact that 
however many contacts were made is really meaningless.


The fact is that any antenna will radiate and can make contacts unless 
it is rolled up and sitting on a shelf in the basement.


73,
Don W3FPR

On 2/14/2013 4:03 PM, hawley, charles j jr wrote:

Yes sure...
Kurt N. Sterba who once wrote an article in World Radio about how he connected 
two shopping carts to the end of his coax and worked the world.
So working this or that is very unimpressive. Have you ever been he a QSO and 
turned the power down from a 100 watts to 1 watt and were still Q5?




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Re: [Elecraft] KE7X K3 book

2013-02-14 Thread Fred Smith
Hi Fred

Are you going to write a book on the KX3?

73,
Fred/N0AZZ

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To: elecraft@mailman.qth.net
Subject: [Elecraft] KE7X K3 book

Lulu seems to have a 20% discount until the end of February. Try FEBBOOKS13.
Cheers and 73,
Fred KE7X

Fred Cady
"The Elecraft K3: Design, Configuration and Operation 2nd Edition"
www.ke7x.com
fcady at ieee dot org 

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Re: [Elecraft] K3 with 2m module K144XV

2013-02-14 Thread WW2R Elecraft
Lance

Having tried the K3 with the high spec oscillator and with the external
locking I found I needed the external locking for my 144 digimode qsos.
However my eme shack varies between around 37F and 110F (outdoor garage) so
it is expecting a lot of the internal reference

External locking of the K3 also helped when using the internal transverter
to drive external transverters at 144MHz for 1296, 2304 and 3400 digital EME
qsos

If you lock the k3 reference and the 144 xverter inside the K3 it is vital
to do the mod at
http://www.elecraft.com/K3/mods/K3EXREF%20freq%20shift%20fix.pdf Not sure if
the "Production phase-in is pending." Mentioned on the web site has happened
yet

Dave

WW2R



From: "Lance Collister, W7GJ" 
To: Elecraft Mailing List 
Subject: [Elecraft] K3 with 2m module K144XV
Message-ID: <511cfb2f.3060...@q.com>
Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed

I need some guidance.  I have a K3 with the optional high stability
reference 
oscillator option.  I have been very pleased with the frequency stability of
the unit 
up through 6m.  Next month I am interested in ordering the K144XV so I can
also use 
the rig for 2m EME with JT65B mode.

Is there anyone out there currently using such a setup successfully on 2m
EME?   Is 
it stable enough as-is, or will I need to also add the K3EXREF and some
additional 
outboard frequency standard?  I would like to avoid involvement with the
K3EXREF 
unless it is required.   I do not plan to use the K3 2m as an IF for
microwave 
transverters, so I hope it will be stable enough on 2m without it.   I look
forward 
to your experience! MNI TNX and VY 73, Lance**

-- 
Lance Collister, W7GJ

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[Elecraft] K2 - Win-Test LUA scripts. Anyone?

2013-02-14 Thread Andreas Hofmann
Hi,

I would like to fine tune my interoperability of the K2 with Win-Test.  Does 
anyone have already a library? Looking specifically (at least) for some simple 
way to move the RIT up and down by key strokes...  I have seen the scripts for 
the K3, and I am not sure if they can be used as is. Does anyone know?

Thanks
Andy,
KU7T

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Re: [Elecraft] KX3 Two Meter Module (All Mode?)

2013-02-14 Thread Phil Hystad
Sounds tasty -- Two Meter Ala Mode!


On Feb 14, 2013, at 2:44 PM, "Eric Swartz - WA6HHQ, Elecraft" 
 wrote:

> Of course :-)
> 73,
> 
> Eric
> elecraft.com
> 
> On 2/13/2013 10:42 PM, Ken Schillinger wrote:
>> Can we expect the 2 meter module to be of the "all mode" variety?
>> 
>> 73 Ken
>> 
>> 
> 
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Re: [Elecraft] OT: G5RV's and variants

2013-02-14 Thread David Cutter
A 66ft off-centre-fed dipole works better than the 105ft G5RV worked on 
multiple bands.


Remember, however, that when Louis Varney designed his antenna (aerial in 
those days, probably) we all had valve (tube) transmitters which could cope 
with the wide variation in impedance.  My only matching unit was for top 
band.  I didn't use a matching unit for the other bands until I had a 
transistor rig.


David
G3UNA



There is a reason that the G5RV is a good beginner's first antenna, IMO. 
It is relatively easy to install.


Of course the same size antenna performs better as a doublet fed with 
balanced line, but I had a lot of trouble with balanced line when I was 
starting out.  I didn't know enough to get usable matches.  Feedline 
length, routing and balun issues, while simple for me to solve now, were 
just too much for me to solve in the beginning.


The G5RV got me on 10, 12, 15, 17, 20, 40, 60 and 80 all at once. 
Admittedly not very well on all, but I made contacts on all those bands.


Another country heard from,

73 de Eric, KG6MZS



I've always wondered why builders of the antenna simply don't make an 
open-wire fed Zepp and stop there.



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Re: [Elecraft] OT: G5RV's and variants

2013-02-14 Thread Dale Putnam
. Have you ever been he a QSO and turned the power down from a 100 watts to 1 
watt and were still Q5?
> As a matter of fact, YES! emphatically, most of the time actually... and even 
> more of the time I start at 5 and then turn it downon 40-30-20 
> especially, and on 160 and 80, I find that happening less.. but it does 
> happen. And the antennae here are all wire.just wire, and nothing but the 
> wiare..
Have a great day, 
 
 
--...   ...--
Dale - WC7S in Wy
 
 

  
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[Elecraft] K3XREF Question

2013-02-14 Thread Chuck Smallhouse

Hi Don and All

IMHO using a GPS disciplined 10 MHz (Trimble etc.) or a Rubidium 
standards are unnecessary , expensive and overly complicated 
approaches, to be used as the K3XREF 10 MHz external source.


There are extremely stable (as high as 10 x-12th) Double Oven 
Controlled Xtal Oscillators (OCXOs) available on the Off Shore 
surplus market, for under $50 delivered.  These are pulls from US 
built surplus equipment, and are guaranteed and tested .   I have 
bought several, and the latest one has been bench tested for several 
months, and after initial adjustment has not varied a single cycle on 
my GPS locked counter.  Even this stability, is an overkill, when 
used as an external reference for the "frequency", not "phase" locked K3.


These OCXOs are less than 2" cube in size and available on e-Bay from 
several dealers.  Check e-Bay under the subject OCXO.


Chuck,  W7CS

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Re: [Elecraft] K3XREF Question

2013-02-14 Thread hawley, charles j jr
Yes. I have had the GPS system and also the Rubidium and other than seeing my 
HP counter with the oven controlled oscillator agree with them from time to 
time, I have to say it was pretty boring. Eventually both the standards broke 
and the HP is still with me.

Chuck, KE9UW
Lionel Trains, TCA, LCCA, LRRC
aka Jack, BMW Motorcycles BMWMOA #224


From: elecraft-boun...@mailman.qth.net [elecraft-boun...@mailman.qth.net] on 
behalf of Chuck Smallhouse [w...@theriver.com]
Sent: Thursday, February 14, 2013 6:18 PM
To: Elecraft@mailman.qth.net
Subject: [Elecraft] K3XREF Question

Hi Don and All

IMHO using a GPS disciplined 10 MHz (Trimble etc.) or a Rubidium
standards are unnecessary , expensive and overly complicated
approaches, to be used as the K3XREF 10 MHz external source.

There are extremely stable (as high as 10 x-12th) Double Oven
Controlled Xtal Oscillators (OCXOs) available on the Off Shore
surplus market, for under $50 delivered.  These are pulls from US
built surplus equipment, and are guaranteed and tested .   I have
bought several, and the latest one has been bench tested for several
months, and after initial adjustment has not varied a single cycle on
my GPS locked counter.  Even this stability, is an overkill, when
used as an external reference for the "frequency", not "phase" locked K3.

These OCXOs are less than 2" cube in size and available on e-Bay from
several dealers.  Check e-Bay under the subject OCXO.

Chuck,  W7CS

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Re: [Elecraft] OT: G5RV's and variants

2013-02-14 Thread EMD
My 2 cents,

As a relatively new ham lacking any real world skills with regards to making
antenna's, the G5RV has worked for me.  I am very limited in time, I am not
normally home more than 10 days a month so my spare time is limited.   But I
still have some time to enjoy the hobby and personally I would rather spend
what time I have getting on the air.  That being said the G5RV has done what
it promised, I have made contacts on 80 through 10 meters and I always am
able to tune any band with less than 1.5 SWR using the K2's internal tuner. 
I am only running 10 watts and have made contacts as far away as the Ukraine
from my east coast QTH so it seems to getting out.  I'm sure there are
better antenna's and some day I would like to have something more than the
G5RV but for now it works for me.  Anyhow I don't really understand why the
G5RV is so controversial.  

Respectfully submitted,

73's
Ed K3ENV



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[Elecraft] DIGOUT1

2013-02-14 Thread Richard Thorpe
Can I use DIGOUT1 ( pin 11 ACC connector) to key an external 2 meter amp ( 
ground on transmit) connected to ANT 3.  When I PTT I want to key the 2 meter 
amp without keying the 160-10 amp connected to ANT1.  Thank you

K6CG
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Re: [Elecraft] K3 with 2m module K144XV

2013-02-14 Thread K7MDL
I think it is more important to look at using the K144RFLK than the K3EXREF
for 2M+ stability.  I also chose the hi spec KTCXO03-1 for the K3.  This
combo has worked well enough for me. 

- Mike



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