[Elecraft] [OT] Strange signal on 17 meter CW

2013-03-09 Thread Oliver Johns
Hi,

This afternoon, Saturday 9 March 2013 at about 5pm PST (approx 10 March 01:10Z 
UTC), I heard a strange USB signal in the CW portion of 17 meters.  The 
frequency was 18.07415 MHz.  A recorded female human voice was reciting a 
string of five-number codes -- in Spanish.  Like 94514 65443 98713 ... .  This 
went on for some minutes (I don't know how long it had been going when I first 
heard it).  Then it stopped and was replaced by some sort of multi-tone signal. 
 Then that stopped, and the transmission ended.

Did anyone hear this?  Is this something that is well known?  I ask here since 
this list is full of attentive CW operators one of whom might have heard it.

73,

Oliver
W6ODJ
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Re: [Elecraft] The P3 Effect

2013-03-09 Thread Bill Frantz
I use the P3 to find an open spot. My best use was during the 
NAQP RTTY contest when I discovered that a station from the my 
last-uncontacted state (N1NK) was always beating me to the top 
of the pileups. He Was tuning up, so I found a spot with the P3 
just above where we were working and started calling CQ. He 
called me and I have LotW and a card confirmations. Thanks N1NK.



I would like to hear what digital DXpedition operators think 
about how to work pileups and how to behave in pileups. Some CW 
operators have just said they use a wide bandwidth, and it seems 
from looking at my P3 that CW callers tend to spread out, so an 
operator can use the pitch of the CW to separate stations in his 
or her head. Frequently you can hear several SSB signals on top 
of each other, and hopefully tease out at least a part of a call 
sign and ask for it.


With digital, if several stations are transmitting on top of 
each other nobody's transmissions will decode. Is there anything 
we as callers can do to raise the QSO rate of the DX, which is 
to everyone's advantage? TX5K's digital QSO numbers for are a 
lot lower than for CW and SSB, and I don't think it is only that 
they spent more hours on the air in CW and SSB than in digital. 
It seemed when I was monitoring them their QSO rate was lower in 
digital. Would PSK31 do better with it's narrower bandwidth than 
and more room to spread out than RTTY? There is no end to the questions.


Cheers - Bill, AE6JV

On 3/9/13 at 9:30 AM, mike.flow...@gmail.com (Mike Flowers) wrote:


Yes, that was my experience on Conway Reef last year.   I could only work a
given RX frequency for a couple of Qs before having to hunt for a clearer
call and start again.   I began to notice that the weaker signals that I
could copy tended to be on clearer frequencies, so they would be my guide to
where to start again.It seemed to work pretty well as I did a fellow who
said he was running 1W on 20M SSB.   I think he was from the level of
excitement in his voice.

I've had really good luck working DX by calling at the upper edge of the
pileup.As the DX op I would often just go 'up' to the upper edge to find
a clear call, and I think a lot of other DX ops do the same when the pileups
become a roaring wall of noise.

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Re: [Elecraft] TX5K

2013-03-09 Thread Bill Frantz
I managed to work them on 10 meter CW @ 5 watts at a much faster 
rate (30 wpm) than my best rate (about 10 WPM) thanks to the CW 
decode and CW memories built into the K3. I entered my call and 
the exchange into the K3 at my sending rate and then turned the 
speed up to keep up with their QSO rate. Seeing my call come up 
on their very useful web site confirmed that it all worked.


I did have to read their CW by ear because the decode was spotty 
and slower than their QSO rate. It helped, but using it still 
seems like cheating.


I also worked them on SSB at 12 watts from California.

Both QSOs were a blast.

Cheers - Bill, AE6JV

On 3/9/13 at 1:00 AM, w7...@cox.net (Dyarnes) wrote:

...
The real kick in the pants is working them on RTTY without a 
computer!  That feature in the K3 (and the KX3) is so 
cool!  This time around I just loaded a couple of memories with 
the ID info and the report info.  I've done it with direct 
paddle input in the past, but using the memories makes it a 
snap on DX stuff.  ...


The TX5K website is pretty slick!  You can see confirmation of 
your QSO within just a minute or two.  These DXpeditions get 
fancier all the time with this logging info.


Anyway, I had fun.  Hope a lot of other folks did too.

Dave W7AQK


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[Elecraft] ERR DSE while xmit CW from K3 through xv144 @15w

2013-03-09 Thread KD7YZ Bob
Howdy K3' people:

Was just siting here calling CQ (CW) on 144 with the transverter..

All of a sudden I wasn't calling CQ and the screen said :
E046068
ERR DSE or D5E, can't tell what the middle character is.

I had to power-reset to get back to calling CQ.

what's it mean?

-- 
73
KD7YZ Bob

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Re: [Elecraft] K3 - K3/0 Installation

2013-03-09 Thread M Cresap
    My experience is that the K3/0 makes the remote station completely 
transparent. It is just like being in front of the rig. I have the K3 plus a 
SoftRock/soundcard on the IF output using the SpectrumLab client server 
application to provide a realtime waterfall display. The complete system runs 
about 900 kbit per second the way I have it configured - the remote end of the 
link has a 1 Mbit capacity, the local end about 40 Mbit/sec. 
    What you will notice are dropped and delayed packets on both the audio and 
data side of the radio. If  the internet providers on either end of the link 
are having a bad day, you will notice it (for my carriers, it doesn't happen 
very often). 
    Installation was easy - follow the instructions. It is best to set up the 
K3, K3/0, and the remoterigs  in the same room the first time you do the 
configuration - builds your confidence that it is really working. I have had 
problems with older stock routers that have a limited number of port forwarding 
slots, I have had good success with the WRT-54 using DD-WRT. 
    I have operated several VHF and 10 meter contests using the K3/0. At 25 wpm 
CW, it works fine, either running or S&P. I haven't tried it any faster. 
Typical tracert and pings on my system show 12 or 13 hops and times of16 to 23 
milliseconds. If you had to use a satellite link with their much larger delays, 
your results could be significantly different.
 
73, Mike, W3IP

--- On Sat, 3/9/13, Roger Huntley  wrote:


From: Roger Huntley 
Subject: [Elecraft] K3 - K3/0 Installation
To: elecraft@mailman.qth.net
Date: Saturday, March 9, 2013, 6:43 PM


Due to local CC&R's I am thinking of doing a remote station installation and
was wondering what the experience has been using the K3 and K3/0 in a remote
station application?  What was your opinion of the installation and was it
suitable for contest operating?  Would a normal DSL internet service be
sufficient?

Thanks,

Roger, W7VV

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Re: [Elecraft] Need Help with K3 FSK-D

2013-03-09 Thread eric norris
Thanks to everybody who replied.  This list is a great resource.  It was 
indeed:  1) Speed set to 75bps instead of 45bps; 2) Mark-Space tones set wrong. 
 I got it running, but not in time to catch TX5K on RTTY.  I saved a CONFIG 
file and I am ready for the next dxpedition.  

73

Eric WD6DBM
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[Elecraft] Elecraft SSB net announcement

2013-03-09 Thread Phil Shepard

The weekly Elecraft SSB net will meet tomorrow (3/10/13) at 1800Z on 14.303.5 
MHz +/- QRM.  Remember the time change.  The net is one hour later local time.  
I will be the net control from western Oregon.  See you there.

73,

Phil, NS7P

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[Elecraft] Elecraft CW Net Announcement

2013-03-09 Thread kevinr

Good Evening,
   The last few days have been quite nice.  So nice I have had a hard 
time not staying outside all day.  I keep looking at my shovel but I 
know it is far too early to start turning soil. Gardening will just have 
to wait for spring :)  But with a temperature of 50 degrees and no 
clouds in the sky it won't be long.


   Propagation was rather good this week.  Must be all the activity 
from that atoll west of Baja.  The sun has some spots but it looks like 
we are going through another double peak maximum. As long as twenty is 
good I am happy though I have tried thirty and fifteen with good 
results.  If the sun was not calling me outside I would try ten meters.  
However, sitting inside on a perfectly fine day is not my nature :)


  Note the times have changed to Daylight Saving Time.  Local time 
stays the same while Zulu time changes.


Please join us tomorrow afternoon and evening.

1) Hail signs  (first letter or two of the suffix of your call)
2) NCS help  (as well as QSP/QNP  help)

Sunday 2200z (Sunday 3 PM PDT) 14050 kHz
Monday 0100z (Sunday 6 PM PDT)  7045 kHz

   Stay warm,
  Kevin.  KD5ONS

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[Elecraft] Elecraft CW Net Report for March 3rd & 4th, 2013

2013-03-09 Thread kevinr

Good Evening,
   Last week's nets were OK with QSB and QRN from storms.  I expect 
tomorrow's nets will be filled with lightning static from the storms in 
the Midwest.  The same system which is sending all the moisture into 
that area is causing my sunny and dry weather. Never fear, tomorrow the 
rains return to Oregon for the rest of the week.


   I had trouble with a very weak station: V31FA.  I just could not 
figure out the second character.  I knew I was getting a 1 but I kept 
copying the 3 as a J.  Luckily I was able to figure out the call from 
the ancillary information Alan gave me.  Be_ize C_ty was a big clue :)


   On to the lists =>

  On 14050 kHz at 2300z:
NO8V - John - MI - K3 - 820
W0CZ - Ken - ND - K3 - 457
N0TA - John - CO - K3 - 994
K0DTJ - Brian - CA - K3 - 4113
W8OV - Dave - TX - K3 - 3139
W4JBB - Joel - AL - KX3 - 1479

  On 7045 kHz at 0200z:
W0CZ - Ken - ND - K3 - 457
AB9V - Mike - IN - K3 - 398
K0DTJ - Brian - CA - K3 - 4113
W8OV - Dave - TX - K3 - 3139
NO8V - John - MI - K3 - 820
K6PJV - Dale - CA - K3 - 1183
V31FA - Alan - Belize
K9ZTV - Kent - MO - K3/500 - 21

73,
Kevin.  KD5ONS
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Re: [Elecraft] KX3 - KXPD3 Socket, Plug, and Schematic Questions

2013-03-09 Thread Lyle
It is for unspecified possible future use.

73,

Lyle KK7P

> ...Why is source 3V3D connected to Pin 3 of the KXPD3?
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Re: [Elecraft] Zippy LiFePO4 Battery Leads vs. Anderson Power Poles

2013-03-09 Thread Mark Goldberg
I tried on similar wire with 45A APPs with some success, about 50%. It is
very difficult to get the
pins snapped into the housing as the solder adds to the diameter,  and the
wire insulation gets
in the way.

I made adapters and stripped the wire down behind the APP housing, slid
shrink tubing
on the wire, put the pins in, pushed the shrink tubing up and inside the
housing and shrunk it.
I would agree it was not very deluxe. I would get similar wire and build an
adapter first to get
practice before you cut apart the battery. I did not cut apart the battery
as I did not want to
wreck it.

I've been very happy with 4S LiFePO4 A123 packs. They run a long time, a
couple of hours so far,
with 20% SSB operation at 12W and the rest listening, with I and Q outputs
running on the KX3.
They still are about 12.9 V so the KX3 will still do 12W. I worked the
Azores with 12W and a
horizontal loop on 15. OK he had a massive antenna farm, but I still worked
him!.
With NIMH, it dropped down to 9V or so fast and the KX3 will only do 5W.

Good Luck, I would not consider myself an expert, and take my advice with
some
skepticism, as I would not consider things fully successful. Throwing out
half my work
is not what I call great.

73

Mark



On Sat, Mar 9, 2013 at 7:24 PM, Rick Tavan  wrote:

> Has anyone successfully replaced the power output connectors on a Zippy
> LeFePO battery with APPs? I'd like to avoid adapters but the wire they use
> appears to be stranded over a non-metallic core with total size of #10 and
> difficult to work with. Soldering 45A APP pins isn't going to work. I have
> a good, ratchet and die crimper at the other QTH which I'll try next but if
> anyone has good advice, please speak up.
>
> Thanks,
>
> /Rick
>
> --
>
> Rick Tavan N6XI
> Truckee, CA
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[Elecraft] Zippy LiFePO4 Battery Leads vs. Anderson Power Poles

2013-03-09 Thread Rick Tavan
Has anyone successfully replaced the power output connectors on a Zippy
LeFePO battery with APPs? I'd like to avoid adapters but the wire they use
appears to be stranded over a non-metallic core with total size of #10 and
difficult to work with. Soldering 45A APP pins isn't going to work. I have
a good, ratchet and die crimper at the other QTH which I'll try next but if
anyone has good advice, please speak up.

Thanks,

/Rick

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[Elecraft] KX3 - KXPD3 Socket, Plug, and Schematic Questions

2013-03-09 Thread Richard

Hello,
  Why is source 3V3D connected to Pin 3 of the KXPD3?
  I have made (but not yet used) an interface cable to connect external 
paddles to the KXPD3 jack.  The  KXPD3 Schematic shows Pin 3 of the plug 
grounded inside the KXPD3.  However, Page 2 of 8 of the Control Panel 
schematics shows 3.3 Volts (3V3D) connected to pin 3 of the KX3 socket 
through R110.
  Testing by another ham found that connecting Pin 1 (grounded inside 
KX3) to his external key common and the Dit and Dah leads to pins 2 and 
4 worked fb.  The KXPD3 schematic shows Pin 1 not used.
  My KX3 socket pin measurements to chassis:  Pin 1: Grounded,  Pin 2:  
11k,  Pin 3:  2.1k,  Pin 4: 11k
  Is Pin 1 or Pin 3 the common contact terminal inside the KXPD3? Is 
Pin 3 grounded inside the KXPD3?  (I would ring it out, but I don't own 
one.)
  Do nDASHALT and nDOTALT go low (like the side key jack) or high to 
indicate contact closure?

  If the former, why is 3V3D connected to the KXPD3?
  Thanks for any assistance to help me understand.
   73, Richard, AI4SH


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Re: [Elecraft] Thanks Elecraft

2013-03-09 Thread GDanner
Last week (Monday) I left a message for a replacement VFO B knob for my K3 @ 
11:30 AM Eastern time.
The reply from a technician about an hour later was that the order had been 
placed and the knob should be shipped that afternoon. I assume he called to 
confirm that was what I actually needed.
I know the best work vendor I ever had (RCA in the tube equipment days) 
would not have managed that!

So Rich - trust that Elecraft will give you more service that you can 
expect!

73
George
AI4VZ


-Original Message- 
From: Matt Zilmer
Sent: Saturday, March 09, 2013 7:37 PM
To: Richard Fjeld
Cc: w0...@aol.com ; elecraft@mailman.qth.net
Subject: Re: [Elecraft] Thanks Elecraft

Try supp...@elecraft.com.

73,
matt W6NIA

On Sat, 09 Mar 2013 16:50:15 -0600, you wrote:

>I just purchased and installed the SVGA board and now I have spikes on the 
>high side of where I am tuned to at times.  I have noticed if I reach 
>around and wiggle the BNC connector, I can reduce them for awhile.  I'd 
>like to get the replacement cable for a permanent fix.  Who do I contact?
>
>Rich, n0ce
>
>  - Original Message - 
>  From: w0...@aol.com
>  To: elecraft@mailman.qth.net
>  Sent: Thursday, March 07, 2013 5:31 PM
>  Subject: [Elecraft] Thanks Elecraft
>
>
>  Received today the replacement BNC/BNC cable for the P3 just four days
>  after my e-mail request.  The phantom spike is gone.
>
>  You gals and guys are the very best, thank you!
>
>  73 de Bill
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Re: [Elecraft] Thanks Elecraft

2013-03-09 Thread Matt Zilmer
Try supp...@elecraft.com.

73,
matt W6NIA

On Sat, 09 Mar 2013 16:50:15 -0600, you wrote:

>I just purchased and installed the SVGA board and now I have spikes on the 
>high side of where I am tuned to at times.  I have noticed if I reach around 
>and wiggle the BNC connector, I can reduce them for awhile.  I'd like to get 
>the replacement cable for a permanent fix.  Who do I contact?
>
>Rich, n0ce
>
>  - Original Message - 
>  From: w0...@aol.com 
>  To: elecraft@mailman.qth.net 
>  Sent: Thursday, March 07, 2013 5:31 PM
>  Subject: [Elecraft] Thanks Elecraft
>
>
>  Received today the replacement BNC/BNC cable for the P3 just four days  
>  after my e-mail request.  The phantom spike is gone.
>   
>  You gals and guys are the very best, thank you!
>   
>  73 de Bill
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Re: [Elecraft] K3 need help with FSK-D

2013-03-09 Thread Merv Schweigert

FSK  D   is the speed set ?  should say 45 6P5 on the readout when you
are setting FSK D



Dear Gang:

I am trying to chase down a last TX5K contact on RTTY and cannot get FSK-D mode 
to work on my K3.  I followed the steps in the manual, and have been trying 
various THR levels in DECODE, but all I get are random letters even with what 
looks like a strong signal ( peaking 3 bars on each side).  I must be missing 
something simple--any ideas?

Thanks,

Eric WD6DBM
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Re: [Elecraft] Remote operation of the K3 questions

2013-03-09 Thread Eric Swartz WA6HHQ - Elecraft
Hi Dick,

Which address did you write to at support and when were the emails sent? We try 
to respond to --all- support emails. (Though it can take a day or more if we 
are receiving a lot of emails and calls.) Sometimes there is a typo in the 
support address used by the user which can also block it from getting to us. 
Other times we have seen our replies get caught in the customer's spam filter. 

Also, if anyone emails support and does not get a response, please email 
sa...@elecraft.com to let them know. You can also call us on the phone is all 
else fails. We're here to help.
In any case, I'll talk to our support team about this Monday.

Regards,

Eric
elecraft.com
_..._

On Mar 9, 2013, at 8:54 AM, "Dick Diddams"  wrote:

> 
> Twice I've written to K3 Support with no response - hence my assumption, 'my
> application can't be done'.  Also, my questions are most likely "outside"
> the charter of K3 Support and no response was provided.  
> 
> 
> 
> Reply directly to me, please doesn't clutter the Elecraft Digest with
> needless chatter. (dickdiddams at earthlink.net)
> 
> 
> 
> The questions asked K3 Support: 
> 
> "Please recommend articles (manufacturers of hardware performing this
> application) connecting the K3, KPA500, P3 and KAT500 via cable over a
> distance of 200- to 250-ft?  My operation is 95% CW, 4% PSK and 1% SSB." 
> 
> 
> 
> 
> 
> "Recommend Application Note(s) available for operating a remote station
> operation via cable"
> 
> 
> 
> 
> 
> "Usage of a UHF (1296 MHz as example) link is acceptable - but request
> direction where to locate articles."
> 
> 
> 
> 
> 
> "Which is better hardware to use for this application, the K3/0, or a 2nd
> regular K3 operating in 'terminal mode'?"
> 
> 
> 
> 
> 
> The reason for operating remote, is because the antenna will be located
> about 200-ft from the house.  The remote station is in an insulated climate
> controlled room (inside a barn).  The remote operating location has 100-amp
> 240-volt service. 
> 
> 
> 
> As a side note, (from your experience), is it simpler for one to use the
> Internet for this application - - - concern when using the Internet is able
> to have full CW break-in.  My normal operating speed is about 30 WPM and up
> to 40 WPM.  Not sure if there is a limitation on CW speed when operating
> remote.  If there is a limitation, what is the maximum CW speed one can use
> when operating remote?
> 
> 
> 
> My preference is to run a cable (or an UHF link) and not use the Internet
> for the remote operation.
> 
> 
> 
> If the recommendation is a K3/0 as the preferred hardware to use for remote
> operation, are there "used" Remote Internet System readily available and
> what is a reasonable selling price? 70%, 60%, etc. of the original selling
> price?
> 
> 
> 
> When you reply directly to me, and if we haven't had previous
> communications, your email will automatically be placed in a Junk Folder
> until it is retrieved and your address has been added to my Address Book.
> Approximately once each day, the "Junk Folder" will be viewed and your
> address will be added to the Address Book.
> 
> 
> 
> Regards, Dick - W7QHE
> 
> dickdiddams at earthlink.net
> 
> 
> 
> PS - Searching the Internet did not provide answers to my above questions -
> possibly, the questions were not phrased properly!
> 
> 
> 
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Re: [Elecraft] Thanks Elecraft

2013-03-09 Thread Richard Fjeld
I just purchased and installed the SVGA board and now I have spikes on the high 
side of where I am tuned to at times.  I have noticed if I reach around and 
wiggle the BNC connector, I can reduce them for awhile.  I'd like to get the 
replacement cable for a permanent fix.  Who do I contact?

Rich, n0ce

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  To: elecraft@mailman.qth.net 
  Sent: Thursday, March 07, 2013 5:31 PM
  Subject: [Elecraft] Thanks Elecraft


  Received today the replacement BNC/BNC cable for the P3 just four days  
  after my e-mail request.  The phantom spike is gone.
   
  You gals and guys are the very best, thank you!
   
  73 de Bill
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Re: [Elecraft] TX5K

2013-03-09 Thread Dyarnes
Milt,

You’re right!  I had forgotten what bands/modes they were on.  I did work them 
on  both 160 SSB and CW.  I checked their website just now, which is still up 
and running with the QSO logs.  I worked them on 20 band slots—missed a couple 
of the digi bands they ran with only a few contacts.  

That was a very well run DXpedition!  One of the best in my memory.

Dave W7AQK





From: Milt -- N5IA 
Sent: Saturday, March 09, 2013 8:55 AM
To: Dyarnes ; Fred Smith ; elecraft@mailman.qth.net 
Subject: Re: [Elecraft] TX5K

-Original Message- 
From: Dyarnes 
Sent: Saturday, March 09, 2013 6:16 AM 
To: Fred Smith ; elecraft@mailman.qth.net 
Subject: Re: [Elecraft] TX5K 

---SNIP---

I don't think VP6DX brought up anything on 160 SSB, 

---SNIP---

I had tried it, mainly as a lark, on the VP6DX DXpedition.  Surprise!  
Surprise!  They heard me!  

---SNIP---

Dave W7AQK



Dave,

160 SSB was alive and well at VP6DX.

Please see 
http://www.radio-sport.net/vp6dx-n5ia-leads-single-ops-in-cq-160-ssb-cn3a-top-multi-op/
 

I searched my log and you are not among the 1,163 contacts during the contest 
period.

Sorry I missed you.  It was a tremendous opportunity and at the end of both 
nights once the terminator had crossed all of the USA except the Pacific Time 
Zone, there was essentially no competition for the W6-W7 crowd.  I worked folks 
who forced a Watt or two into a 40 Meter dipole at 25’ AGL.  The JA’s have no 
160 M SSB allocation and I had worked all the ZL, VK and other Pacific area 
stations.  Consequently there was a fair amount of open air time for the last 
hour or so before Ducie sunrise.  Again, too bad you didn’t get on.

There were approximately 200 Qs made on 160 SSB a couple of nights before the 
contest.

There were another 200 Qs made on 160 SSB during the 3 nights of operation 
after the contest.

VP6DX made a total of 6,671 Qs on 160 Meters of which 1,574 were with the SSB 
mode.

73 de Milt, N5IA

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Re: [Elecraft] K3 need help with FSK-D

2013-03-09 Thread Doug Turnbull
Eric,
Make sure you are using 45 bps press and hold for 2 seconds the AFX(DATA
MD) button and adjust VFO A knob.   Mark Space is set to 2125 - 170 using
SPOT Button held in for a few seconds.   Threshold is not critical mine is
set to 3 and ON by holding in the Text Decode button for a few seconds.
Back off on the RF gain to get rid of the extraneous noise characters and
fine tune at 1 Hz or 10 Hz maximum.   You should see the signal start to
decode.   I very much like to use the Elecraft Utility Monitor with stored
messages and a good big screen to display plenty of data.   

 I just worked them on 14.089.92.   Good luck.

 73 Doug EI2CN

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[mailto:elecraft-boun...@mailman.qth.net] On Behalf Of eric norris
Sent: 09 March 2013 20:34
To: elecraft@mailman.qth.net
Subject: [Elecraft] K3 need help with FSK-D

Dear Gang:

I am trying to chase down a last TX5K contact on RTTY and cannot get FSK-D
mode to work on my K3.  I followed the steps in the manual, and have been
trying various THR levels in DECODE, but all I get are random letters even
with what looks like a strong signal ( peaking 3 bars on each side).  I must
be missing something simple--any ideas?

Thanks,

Eric WD6DBM   
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Re: [Elecraft] Tech Writer Part-Time Position at Elecraft

2013-03-09 Thread Wayne Burdick
Amen! Ron is and will continue to be the core of our writing team. But  
I do a lot, too, and I need to offload a serious chunk of it.


Wayne
N6KR


On Mar 9, 2013, at 11:08 AM, Ron D'Eau Claire wrote:

My mailbox filled up quickly with long-time Elecraft owners who know  
I write
many of the Elecraft manuals, so forgive me a little bandwidth to  
clarify.


I am not leaving the Elecraft team anytime soon (AFAIK ;-) but the  
writing

workload has steadily grown so it's time to grow the team.

73 Ron AC7AC

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Sent: Friday, March 08, 2013 5:25 PM
To: elecraft@mailman.qth.net
Subject: [Elecraft] Tech Writer Part-Time Position at Elecraft

Elecraft is looking for a part time senior tech writer. We'd prefer  
someone
who is already very familiar with our product line as well as RF  
concepts

and amateur radio in general. The candidate must have a high level of
expertise with Microsoft Word and Excel and be able to organize and
distribute very large documents. Photography and illustration skills  
are

also required in order to document assembly procedures.

Projects will include updating and maintenance of existing  
documents, as
well as creation of manuals for future products. In many cases the  
writer
will be building and testing products as part of the documentation  
process,
in conjunction with our engineering staff, so some tools and test  
gear will

be required.

This is a long-term part-time position with the potential to be full  
time in
the future, with a flexible work schedule. The candidate need not  
relocate;

many members of our engineering staff work from home.

Please submit a resume and several writing samples to:
tech...@elecraft.com

73,
Eric and Wayne
elecraft.com


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[Elecraft] K3 need help with FSK-D

2013-03-09 Thread eric norris
Dear Gang:

I am trying to chase down a last TX5K contact on RTTY and cannot get FSK-D mode 
to work on my K3.  I followed the steps in the manual, and have been trying 
various THR levels in DECODE, but all I get are random letters even with what 
looks like a strong signal ( peaking 3 bars on each side).  I must be missing 
something simple--any ideas?

Thanks,

Eric WD6DBM   
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[Elecraft] Fwd: The P3 Effect

2013-03-09 Thread F5vjc
Good story Bob.

I'm always very interested to hear how the heroes at the sharp end of
DXpeds handle the pileups, strategies etc.
What does it take to get 'in the log' ?
We have the best of equipment, and great software aids, and I've had
reasonable success but there is always, always,  something to learn.

50 years in Amateur radio this year and still magic !

Thanks to Elecraft for rekindling that magic spark... but T9 of course !

73, Deni F5VJC



On 9 March 2013 20:17, Robert Garceau  wrote:

> I agree with working the edge of the pileups.
> I have been to St.Croix, not exactly a dxpedition, over a 4 year period.
> I bring the K3 with me.
> It still amazes me that I work 1,000 plus stations each year, get requests
> for QSL's with GS's and a bunch through the bureau.
> For some people, KP2 (Virgin Islands) must be a new one.
>
> I do work split most of the time, especially on CW and RTTY.
> And if the pileup gets rough, I work the edges.
> I'm not a big phone guy. On SSB, I operate simplex.
>
> Funny story:
> In 2011, on my first day in St.Croix, I was working a pileup and getting
> great reports from Europe and the U.S.
> Later in the day, I found that I was only running 30 watts. Apparently the
> K3 thought I was still hooked up to the KPA500.
> I increased the power to 100 watts and the K3 shut down. I found out that I
> had a bad power supply (PS was in rental shack) and could not exceed 30
> watts.
> With 30 watts and an A3S, I still worked over 1,000 stations. Of course the
> rental (NP2N) is high on a hill and clear signals to EU and US.
> Yes, there's an amp in the shack, but decided not to power it.
>
>
> Bob Garceau, W1EQ
> DXCC Honor Roll
> Triple Play Award #5
> DXCC Challenge 2149 band/countries
> Ex. K1YRP, USA-CA All Counties #342
>
>
>
>
>
>
> -Original Message-
> From: elecraft-boun...@mailman.qth.net
> [mailto:elecraft-boun...@mailman.qth.net] On Behalf Of Mike Flowers
> Sent: Saturday, March 09, 2013 12:30 PM
> To: 'Jay'; a...@twcny.rr.com; elecraft@mailman.qth.net; 'eric norris'
> Subject: Re: [Elecraft] The P3 Effect
>
> Yes, that was my experience on Conway Reef last year.   I could only work a
> given RX frequency for a couple of Qs before having to hunt for a clearer
> call and start again.   I began to notice that the weaker signals that I
> could copy tended to be on clearer frequencies, so they would be my guide
> to
> where to start again.It seemed to work pretty well as I did a fellow
> who
> said he was running 1W on 20M SSB.   I think he was from the level of
> excitement in his voice.
>
> I've had really good luck working DX by calling at the upper edge of the
> pileup.As the DX op I would often just go 'up' to the upper edge to
> find
> a clear call, and I think a lot of other DX ops do the same when the
> pileups
> become a roaring wall of noise.
>
> - 73 de Mike, K6MKF, W6NAG, NCDXC, Conway Reef 2012, K3-P3 Addict, Maui
>
> -Original Message-
> From: elecraft-boun...@mailman.qth.net
> [mailto:elecraft-boun...@mailman.qth.net] On Behalf Of Jay
> Sent: Saturday, March 09, 2013 8:57 AM
> To: a...@twcny.rr.com; elecraft@mailman.qth.net; eric norris
> Subject: Re: [Elecraft] The P3 Effect
>
> Having been " out there a few times" I know I spin the dial usually after
> 1-2 Q's as dual receivers and other tools brings the pileups to who I just
> worked . I will usually jump the edges, then jump the center and repeat
> that
> in odd combinations. Today one cannot listen for the gang on one frequency
> very long...so it's always " keep moving"
>
> Jay
>
> Sent from my iPad=
> - Original Message -
> From: 
> To: ; "eric norris" 
> Sent: Saturday, March 09, 2013 4:52 AM
> Subject: Re: [Elecraft] The P3 Effect
>
>
> > Perhaps this is why DXpeditions seem to play "spin the dial" more; having
> > many stations converge on the last rx frequency probably tends to slow
> > their rate.  I experienced this effect at PZ5RO.  It would be interesting
> > to get feedback from DXpedition ops.
> >
> > 73, Redd - AI2N
> >
> >  eric norris  wrote:
> >> Has anyone else noticed just how many people are now able to pounce on
> >> the last frequency TX5K used? Back in the day you swapped VFOs and
> >> listened for the calling station. After I got my P3 it seemed to be a
> >> real advantage because you could instantly find the calling station (if
> >> you could hear him). Now so many people do this it seems to almost be a
> >> requirement to have a P3 or panadapter of some sort. Of course, I could
> >> be wrong.
> >>
> >> 73 Eric WD6DBM
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[Elecraft] FW: Remote operation of the K3 questions

2013-03-09 Thread Dr. William J. Schmidt, II
At the K9ZC station, we have antennas and feed line that are more than 2,000
feet from the shack.  I used surplus (new) 1 5/8" feed line for the RF and
direct bury fiber optic cable with converters for the control signals.
Works like a charm.


Dr. William J. Schmidt - K9HZ / J68HZ/ 8P6HK/ ZF2HZ

Owner - Operator
Big Signal Ranch
Staunton, Illinois

email:  b...@wjschmidt.com



<<<200 ft is not a long distance at HF. If you're already going to run a
cable from the operating position to near the antenna anyway, why not just
use a low loss feedline? LMR400 or equiv is only around -1.5dB at 10m. If
that's unacceptable, you can find 1/2" hardline for much less than your
proposed solutions.>>>



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Re: [Elecraft] [KX3] Portable Antenna question

2013-03-09 Thread Lyle
Hello Lynn!

Welcome aboard!

73,

Lyle

PS: For those who don't know him, Lynn is another of the early packet radio 
pioneers that seem to be joining the Elecraft family, and whom I've known since 
1982 or so.  Terry WB4JFI is another.

> My new KX3 is due to arrive on Monday -- with the KXAT3 tuner.
> 
> 
> 73 -- Lynn, WB6UUT
> 
> P.S. Hi Lyle
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Re: [Elecraft] The P3 Effect

2013-03-09 Thread Robert Garceau
I agree with working the edge of the pileups.
I have been to St.Croix, not exactly a dxpedition, over a 4 year period.
I bring the K3 with me.
It still amazes me that I work 1,000 plus stations each year, get requests
for QSL's with GS's and a bunch through the bureau.
For some people, KP2 (Virgin Islands) must be a new one.

I do work split most of the time, especially on CW and RTTY. 
And if the pileup gets rough, I work the edges.
I'm not a big phone guy. On SSB, I operate simplex.

Funny story: 
In 2011, on my first day in St.Croix, I was working a pileup and getting
great reports from Europe and the U.S.
Later in the day, I found that I was only running 30 watts. Apparently the
K3 thought I was still hooked up to the KPA500.
I increased the power to 100 watts and the K3 shut down. I found out that I
had a bad power supply (PS was in rental shack) and could not exceed 30
watts.
With 30 watts and an A3S, I still worked over 1,000 stations. Of course the
rental (NP2N) is high on a hill and clear signals to EU and US.
Yes, there's an amp in the shack, but decided not to power it.


Bob Garceau, W1EQ
DXCC Honor Roll
Triple Play Award #5
DXCC Challenge 2149 band/countries
Ex. K1YRP, USA-CA All Counties #342






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[mailto:elecraft-boun...@mailman.qth.net] On Behalf Of Mike Flowers
Sent: Saturday, March 09, 2013 12:30 PM
To: 'Jay'; a...@twcny.rr.com; elecraft@mailman.qth.net; 'eric norris'
Subject: Re: [Elecraft] The P3 Effect

Yes, that was my experience on Conway Reef last year.   I could only work a
given RX frequency for a couple of Qs before having to hunt for a clearer
call and start again.   I began to notice that the weaker signals that I
could copy tended to be on clearer frequencies, so they would be my guide to
where to start again.It seemed to work pretty well as I did a fellow who
said he was running 1W on 20M SSB.   I think he was from the level of
excitement in his voice.

I've had really good luck working DX by calling at the upper edge of the
pileup.As the DX op I would often just go 'up' to the upper edge to find
a clear call, and I think a lot of other DX ops do the same when the pileups
become a roaring wall of noise.

- 73 de Mike, K6MKF, W6NAG, NCDXC, Conway Reef 2012, K3-P3 Addict, Maui

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From: elecraft-boun...@mailman.qth.net
[mailto:elecraft-boun...@mailman.qth.net] On Behalf Of Jay
Sent: Saturday, March 09, 2013 8:57 AM
To: a...@twcny.rr.com; elecraft@mailman.qth.net; eric norris
Subject: Re: [Elecraft] The P3 Effect

Having been " out there a few times" I know I spin the dial usually after
1-2 Q's as dual receivers and other tools brings the pileups to who I just
worked . I will usually jump the edges, then jump the center and repeat that
in odd combinations. Today one cannot listen for the gang on one frequency
very long...so it's always " keep moving"

Jay

Sent from my iPad=
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From: 
To: ; "eric norris" 
Sent: Saturday, March 09, 2013 4:52 AM
Subject: Re: [Elecraft] The P3 Effect


> Perhaps this is why DXpeditions seem to play "spin the dial" more; having 
> many stations converge on the last rx frequency probably tends to slow 
> their rate.  I experienced this effect at PZ5RO.  It would be interesting 
> to get feedback from DXpedition ops.
>
> 73, Redd - AI2N
>
>  eric norris  wrote:
>> Has anyone else noticed just how many people are now able to pounce on 
>> the last frequency TX5K used? Back in the day you swapped VFOs and 
>> listened for the calling station. After I got my P3 it seemed to be a 
>> real advantage because you could instantly find the calling station (if 
>> you could hear him). Now so many people do this it seems to almost be a 
>> requirement to have a P3 or panadapter of some sort. Of course, I could 
>> be wrong.
>>
>> 73 Eric WD6DBM
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Re: [Elecraft] Tech Writer Part-Time Position at Elecraft

2013-03-09 Thread Ron D'Eau Claire
My mailbox filled up quickly with long-time Elecraft owners who know I write
many of the Elecraft manuals, so forgive me a little bandwidth to clarify.

I am not leaving the Elecraft team anytime soon (AFAIK ;-) but the writing
workload has steadily grown so it's time to grow the team. 

73 Ron AC7AC

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Sent: Friday, March 08, 2013 5:25 PM
To: elecraft@mailman.qth.net
Subject: [Elecraft] Tech Writer Part-Time Position at Elecraft

Elecraft is looking for a part time senior tech writer. We'd prefer someone
who is already very familiar with our product line as well as RF concepts
and amateur radio in general. The candidate must have a high level of
expertise with Microsoft Word and Excel and be able to organize and
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[Elecraft] K3 - K3/0 Installation

2013-03-09 Thread Roger Huntley
Due to local CC&R's I am thinking of doing a remote station installation and
was wondering what the experience has been using the K3 and K3/0 in a remote
station application?  What was your opinion of the installation and was it
suitable for contest operating?  Would a normal DSL internet service be
sufficient?

Thanks,

Roger, W7VV

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Re: [Elecraft] KAT500: Miracle on 160m

2013-03-09 Thread W5RDW
I also had similar results. After working TX5K on 80 M CW two days before, I
thought I would see if I could hear them on 160 M CW. I had previously tuned
my 80 M dipole (resonant at 3.505 MHz) with the newly purchased KAT500 to a
low VSWR on the CW band of 160, so I thought it might work. Using the KPA500
at around 400 watts, I made contact with only 2 calls! Surprised the heck
out of me!



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Re: [Elecraft] [KX3] Portable Antenna question

2013-03-09 Thread Lynn W. Taylor, WB6UUT

Thanks everyone!

I was hoping for some good practical "getting started" experience, and 
you gave me some great suggestions.


Several mentioned Wireman #534 -- a uniformed deliveryperson will bring 
100' of that today.


Sadly, my KX3 is sitting at UPS just a few miles away, safely locked up 
for the weekend.


I found fiberglass windsock poles that look very encouraging.

 and I keep looking at the trees outside my apartment window. :-)

73 -- Lynn
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Re: [Elecraft] Remote operation of the K3 questions

2013-03-09 Thread Walter Underwood
That was my thought. Put the amplifier at the remote spot, run coax to it, and 
use an RS-232 extender for the control lines, if needed.

wunder
K6WRU

On Mar 9, 2013, at 9:27 AM, Josh Fiden wrote:

> Hi Dick,
> 
> 200 ft is not a long distance at HF. If you're already going to run a cable 
> from the operating position to near the antenna anyway, why not just use a 
> low loss feedline? LMR400 or equiv is only around -1.5dB at 10m. If that's 
> unacceptable, you can find 1/2" hardline for much less than your proposed 
> solutions.
> 
> 73,
> Josh W6XU
> 
> On 3/9/2013 8:54 AM, Dick Diddams wrote:
>>  
>> Twice I've written to K3 Support with no response - hence my assumption, 'my
>> application can't be done'.  Also, my questions are most likely "outside"
>> the charter of K3 Support and no response was provided.
>> 
>>  
>> Reply directly to me, please doesn't clutter the Elecraft Digest with
>> needless chatter. (dickdiddams at earthlink.net)
>> 
>>  
>> The questions asked K3 Support:
>> 
>> "Please recommend articles (manufacturers of hardware performing this
>> application) connecting the K3, KPA500, P3 and KAT500 via cable over a
>> distance of 200- to 250-ft?  My operation is 95% CW, 4% PSK and 1% SSB."
>> 
>>  
>>  
>> "Recommend Application Note(s) available for operating a remote station
>> operation via cable"
>> 
>>  
>>  
>> "Usage of a UHF (1296 MHz as example) link is acceptable - but request
>> direction where to locate articles."
>> 
>>  
>>  
>> "Which is better hardware to use for this application, the K3/0, or a 2nd
>> regular K3 operating in 'terminal mode'?"
>> 
>>  
>>  
>> The reason for operating remote, is because the antenna will be located
>> about 200-ft from the house.  The remote station is in an insulated climate
>> controlled room (inside a barn).  The remote operating location has 100-amp
>> 240-volt service.
>> 
>>  
>> As a side note, (from your experience), is it simpler for one to use the
>> Internet for this application - - - concern when using the Internet is able
>> to have full CW break-in.  My normal operating speed is about 30 WPM and up
>> to 40 WPM.  Not sure if there is a limitation on CW speed when operating
>> remote.  If there is a limitation, what is the maximum CW speed one can use
>> when operating remote?
>> 
>>  
>> My preference is to run a cable (or an UHF link) and not use the Internet
>> for the remote operation.
>> 
>>  
>> If the recommendation is a K3/0 as the preferred hardware to use for remote
>> operation, are there "used" Remote Internet System readily available and
>> what is a reasonable selling price? 70%, 60%, etc. of the original selling
>> price?
>> 
>>  
>> When you reply directly to me, and if we haven't had previous
>> communications, your email will automatically be placed in a Junk Folder
>> until it is retrieved and your address has been added to my Address Book.
>> Approximately once each day, the "Junk Folder" will be viewed and your
>> address will be added to the Address Book.
>> 
>>  
>> Regards, Dick - W7QHE
>> 
>> dickdiddams at earthlink.net
>> 
>>  
>> PS - Searching the Internet did not provide answers to my above questions -
>> possibly, the questions were not phrased properly!
>> 
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Re: [Elecraft] Remote operation of the K3 questions

2013-03-09 Thread Joe Subich, W4TV



PS - Searching the Internet did not provide answers to my above

> questions - possibly, the questions were not phrased properly!

The internet did not provide any answers to the above questions
because the configuration proposed is not feasible.  The P3
requires access via RS-232 to the K3 CAT commands and access via
the KXV3 or KXV3A to the receiver IF.  This means the P3 must be
collocated with the K3.  However, the display (and controls) is not 
"remoteable" nor is there a "slave" P3/0 equivalent to a K3/0.


There are, to the best of my knowledge, no off the shelf internet
remote operating systems that support the P3.

The standard solution for your needs - used my many many amateurs -
is to locate the equipment at the control point and use a large
diameter (7/8" or 1 5/8") hardline with a remote antenna switch
(generally with N+1 control lines where N=number of antenna ports).

73,

   ... Joe, W4TV


On 3/9/2013 11:54 AM, Dick Diddams wrote:



Twice I've written to K3 Support with no response - hence my assumption, 'my
application can't be done'.  Also, my questions are most likely "outside"
the charter of K3 Support and no response was provided.



Reply directly to me, please doesn't clutter the Elecraft Digest with
needless chatter. (dickdiddams at earthlink.net)



The questions asked K3 Support:

"Please recommend articles (manufacturers of hardware performing this
application) connecting the K3, KPA500, P3 and KAT500 via cable over a
distance of 200- to 250-ft?  My operation is 95% CW, 4% PSK and 1% SSB."





"Recommend Application Note(s) available for operating a remote station
operation via cable"





"Usage of a UHF (1296 MHz as example) link is acceptable - but request
direction where to locate articles."





"Which is better hardware to use for this application, the K3/0, or a 2nd
regular K3 operating in 'terminal mode'?"





The reason for operating remote, is because the antenna will be located
about 200-ft from the house.  The remote station is in an insulated climate
controlled room (inside a barn).  The remote operating location has 100-amp
240-volt service.



As a side note, (from your experience), is it simpler for one to use the
Internet for this application - - - concern when using the Internet is able
to have full CW break-in.  My normal operating speed is about 30 WPM and up
to 40 WPM.  Not sure if there is a limitation on CW speed when operating
remote.  If there is a limitation, what is the maximum CW speed one can use
when operating remote?



My preference is to run a cable (or an UHF link) and not use the Internet
for the remote operation.



If the recommendation is a K3/0 as the preferred hardware to use for remote
operation, are there "used" Remote Internet System readily available and
what is a reasonable selling price? 70%, 60%, etc. of the original selling
price?



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communications, your email will automatically be placed in a Junk Folder
until it is retrieved and your address has been added to my Address Book.
Approximately once each day, the "Junk Folder" will be viewed and your
address will be added to the Address Book.



Regards, Dick - W7QHE

dickdiddams at earthlink.net



PS - Searching the Internet did not provide answers to my above questions -
possibly, the questions were not phrased properly!



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Re: [Elecraft] The P3 Effect

2013-03-09 Thread Mike Flowers
Yes, that was my experience on Conway Reef last year.   I could only work a
given RX frequency for a couple of Qs before having to hunt for a clearer
call and start again.   I began to notice that the weaker signals that I
could copy tended to be on clearer frequencies, so they would be my guide to
where to start again.It seemed to work pretty well as I did a fellow who
said he was running 1W on 20M SSB.   I think he was from the level of
excitement in his voice.

I've had really good luck working DX by calling at the upper edge of the
pileup.As the DX op I would often just go 'up' to the upper edge to find
a clear call, and I think a lot of other DX ops do the same when the pileups
become a roaring wall of noise.

- 73 de Mike, K6MKF, W6NAG, NCDXC, Conway Reef 2012, K3-P3 Addict, Maui

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Subject: Re: [Elecraft] The P3 Effect

Having been " out there a few times" I know I spin the dial usually after
1-2 Q's as dual receivers and other tools brings the pileups to who I just
worked . I will usually jump the edges, then jump the center and repeat that
in odd combinations. Today one cannot listen for the gang on one frequency
very long...so it's always " keep moving"

Jay

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To: ; "eric norris" 
Sent: Saturday, March 09, 2013 4:52 AM
Subject: Re: [Elecraft] The P3 Effect


> Perhaps this is why DXpeditions seem to play "spin the dial" more; having 
> many stations converge on the last rx frequency probably tends to slow 
> their rate.  I experienced this effect at PZ5RO.  It would be interesting 
> to get feedback from DXpedition ops.
>
> 73, Redd - AI2N
>
>  eric norris  wrote:
>> Has anyone else noticed just how many people are now able to pounce on 
>> the last frequency TX5K used? Back in the day you swapped VFOs and 
>> listened for the calling station. After I got my P3 it seemed to be a 
>> real advantage because you could instantly find the calling station (if 
>> you could hear him). Now so many people do this it seems to almost be a 
>> requirement to have a P3 or panadapter of some sort. Of course, I could 
>> be wrong.
>>
>> 73 Eric WD6DBM
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Re: [Elecraft] Remote operation of the K3 questions

2013-03-09 Thread Josh Fiden

Hi Dick,

200 ft is not a long distance at HF. If you're already going to run a 
cable from the operating position to near the antenna anyway, why not 
just use a low loss feedline? LMR400 or equiv is only around -1.5dB at 
10m. If that's unacceptable, you can find 1/2" hardline for much less 
than your proposed solutions.


73,
Josh W6XU

On 3/9/2013 8:54 AM, Dick Diddams wrote:
  


Twice I've written to K3 Support with no response - hence my assumption, 'my
application can't be done'.  Also, my questions are most likely "outside"
the charter of K3 Support and no response was provided.

  


Reply directly to me, please doesn't clutter the Elecraft Digest with
needless chatter. (dickdiddams at earthlink.net)

  


The questions asked K3 Support:

"Please recommend articles (manufacturers of hardware performing this
application) connecting the K3, KPA500, P3 and KAT500 via cable over a
distance of 200- to 250-ft?  My operation is 95% CW, 4% PSK and 1% SSB."

  

  


"Recommend Application Note(s) available for operating a remote station
operation via cable"

  

  


"Usage of a UHF (1296 MHz as example) link is acceptable - but request
direction where to locate articles."

  

  


"Which is better hardware to use for this application, the K3/0, or a 2nd
regular K3 operating in 'terminal mode'?"

  

  


The reason for operating remote, is because the antenna will be located
about 200-ft from the house.  The remote station is in an insulated climate
controlled room (inside a barn).  The remote operating location has 100-amp
240-volt service.

  


As a side note, (from your experience), is it simpler for one to use the
Internet for this application - - - concern when using the Internet is able
to have full CW break-in.  My normal operating speed is about 30 WPM and up
to 40 WPM.  Not sure if there is a limitation on CW speed when operating
remote.  If there is a limitation, what is the maximum CW speed one can use
when operating remote?

  


My preference is to run a cable (or an UHF link) and not use the Internet
for the remote operation.

  


If the recommendation is a K3/0 as the preferred hardware to use for remote
operation, are there "used" Remote Internet System readily available and
what is a reasonable selling price? 70%, 60%, etc. of the original selling
price?

  


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communications, your email will automatically be placed in a Junk Folder
until it is retrieved and your address has been added to my Address Book.
Approximately once each day, the "Junk Folder" will be viewed and your
address will be added to the Address Book.

  


Regards, Dick - W7QHE

dickdiddams at earthlink.net

  


PS - Searching the Internet did not provide answers to my above questions -
possibly, the questions were not phrased properly!

  


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Re: [Elecraft] The P3 Effect

2013-03-09 Thread Barry
I agree.  Also, too many years of using VFO B and a wide filter to track the
DX station's listening pattern.
Barry W2UP


Deni F5VJC wrote
> I can not say I find the P3 is at all useful in chasing DX, NOT the fault
> of the P3 of course, it's the abysmal operating procedures of those
> continuously calling or replying to the DX when it's clear he is calling
> or
> working another station. All the P3 sees is a mass of simultaneously
> calling stations and it's impossible to see and pick out (most times ) who
> is actually working the DX.
> The 2nd Rx is indispensible in my opinion and I'd rather have that than my
> P3 any day.
> Of course the P3 has other uses but for finding the Dx listening QRG?
> 
> 73 F5VJC





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Re: [Elecraft] The P3 Effect

2013-03-09 Thread Jay
Having been " out there a few times" I know I spin the dial usually after 
1-2 Q's as dual receivers and other tools brings the pileups to who I just 
worked . I will usually jump the edges, then jump the center and repeat that 
in odd combinations. Today one cannot listen for the gang on one frequency 
very long...so it's always " keep moving"


Jay

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From: 

To: ; "eric norris" 
Sent: Saturday, March 09, 2013 4:52 AM
Subject: Re: [Elecraft] The P3 Effect


Perhaps this is why DXpeditions seem to play "spin the dial" more; having 
many stations converge on the last rx frequency probably tends to slow 
their rate.  I experienced this effect at PZ5RO.  It would be interesting 
to get feedback from DXpedition ops.


73, Redd - AI2N

 eric norris  wrote:
Has anyone else noticed just how many people are now able to pounce on 
the last frequency TX5K used? Back in the day you swapped VFOs and 
listened for the calling station. After I got my P3 it seemed to be a 
real advantage because you could instantly find the calling station (if 
you could hear him). Now so many people do this it seems to almost be a 
requirement to have a P3 or panadapter of some sort. Of course, I could 
be wrong.


73 Eric WD6DBM
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[Elecraft] Remote operation of the K3 questions

2013-03-09 Thread Dick Diddams
 

Twice I've written to K3 Support with no response - hence my assumption, 'my
application can't be done'.  Also, my questions are most likely "outside"
the charter of K3 Support and no response was provided.  

 

Reply directly to me, please doesn't clutter the Elecraft Digest with
needless chatter. (dickdiddams at earthlink.net)

 

The questions asked K3 Support: 

"Please recommend articles (manufacturers of hardware performing this
application) connecting the K3, KPA500, P3 and KAT500 via cable over a
distance of 200- to 250-ft?  My operation is 95% CW, 4% PSK and 1% SSB." 

 

 

"Recommend Application Note(s) available for operating a remote station
operation via cable"

 

 

"Usage of a UHF (1296 MHz as example) link is acceptable - but request
direction where to locate articles."

 

 

"Which is better hardware to use for this application, the K3/0, or a 2nd
regular K3 operating in 'terminal mode'?"

 

 

The reason for operating remote, is because the antenna will be located
about 200-ft from the house.  The remote station is in an insulated climate
controlled room (inside a barn).  The remote operating location has 100-amp
240-volt service. 

 

As a side note, (from your experience), is it simpler for one to use the
Internet for this application - - - concern when using the Internet is able
to have full CW break-in.  My normal operating speed is about 30 WPM and up
to 40 WPM.  Not sure if there is a limitation on CW speed when operating
remote.  If there is a limitation, what is the maximum CW speed one can use
when operating remote?

 

My preference is to run a cable (or an UHF link) and not use the Internet
for the remote operation.

 

If the recommendation is a K3/0 as the preferred hardware to use for remote
operation, are there "used" Remote Internet System readily available and
what is a reasonable selling price? 70%, 60%, etc. of the original selling
price?

 

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communications, your email will automatically be placed in a Junk Folder
until it is retrieved and your address has been added to my Address Book.
Approximately once each day, the "Junk Folder" will be viewed and your
address will be added to the Address Book.

 

Regards, Dick - W7QHE

dickdiddams at earthlink.net

 

PS - Searching the Internet did not provide answers to my above questions -
possibly, the questions were not phrased properly!

 

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Re: [Elecraft] The P3 Effect

2013-03-09 Thread Mark Stennett
I prefer to operate CW with the receiver bandwidth very wide, AGC off and ride 
the RF gain manually. With the receiver set up like this I can hear many 
stations  spread out and pick them off up and down the passband without having 
to do much tuning. On Swains Island this technique worked quite well at NH8S.


73 de na6m


On Mar 9, 2013, at 6:52,  wrote:

> Perhaps this is why DXpeditions seem to play "spin the dial" more; having 
> many stations converge on the last rx frequency probably tends to slow their 
> rate.  I experienced this effect at PZ5RO.  It would be interesting to get 
> feedback from DXpedition ops.
> 
> 73, Redd - AI2N
> 
>  eric norris  wrote: 
>> Has anyone else noticed just how many people are now able to pounce on the 
>> last frequency TX5K used?  Back in the day you swapped VFOs and listened for 
>> the calling station.  After I got my P3 it seemed to be a real advantage 
>> because you could instantly find the calling station (if you could hear 
>> him).  Now so many people do this it seems to almost be a requirement to 
>> have a P3 or panadapter of some sort.  Of course, I could be wrong.  
>> 
>> 73 Eric WD6DBM
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Re: [Elecraft] TX5K

2013-03-09 Thread Milt -- N5IA
-Original Message- 
From: Dyarnes 
Sent: Saturday, March 09, 2013 6:16 AM 
To: Fred Smith ; elecraft@mailman.qth.net 
Subject: Re: [Elecraft] TX5K 

---SNIP---

I don't think VP6DX brought up anything on 160 SSB, 

---SNIP---

I had tried it, mainly as a lark, on the VP6DX DXpedition.  Surprise!  
Surprise!  They heard me!  

---SNIP---

Dave W7AQK



Dave,

160 SSB was alive and well at VP6DX.

Please see 
http://www.radio-sport.net/vp6dx-n5ia-leads-single-ops-in-cq-160-ssb-cn3a-top-multi-op/
 

I searched my log and you are not among the 1,163 contacts during the contest 
period.

Sorry I missed you.  It was a tremendous opportunity and at the end of both 
nights once the terminator had crossed all of the USA except the Pacific Time 
Zone, there was essentially no competition for the W6-W7 crowd.  I worked folks 
who forced a Watt or two into a 40 Meter dipole at 25’ AGL.  The JA’s have no 
160 M SSB allocation and I had worked all the ZL, VK and other Pacific area 
stations.  Consequently there was a fair amount of open air time for the last 
hour or so before Ducie sunrise.  Again, too bad you didn’t get on.

There were approximately 200 Qs made on 160 SSB a couple of nights before the 
contest.

There were another 200 Qs made on 160 SSB during the 3 nights of operation 
after the contest.

VP6DX made a total of 6,671 Qs on 160 Meters of which 1,574 were with the SSB 
mode.

73 de Milt, N5IA



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Re: [Elecraft] The P3 Effect

2013-03-09 Thread Fred Smith
It's still a major point of contention with some.

Fred/N0AZZ

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[mailto:elecraft-boun...@mailman.qth.net] On Behalf Of Scott Dunlavey
Sent: Saturday, March 09, 2013 7:23 AM
To: turnb...@net1.ie
Cc: elecraft; gliderboy1...@yahoo.com
Subject: Re: [Elecraft] The P3 Effect

that is how I have been using the P3 as well... with great success I must say...
I wonder if they had the same conversation when the DX Cluster was first 
introduced... just wondering Scott w2ntv


On Sat, Mar 9, 2013 at 8:02 AM, Doug Turnbull wrote:

> Eric,
> This seldom works for me as so many are constantly calling a DX 
> station
> that determining who is supposed to be there is difficult.   I have to 
> tune
> and listen with the K3 and sometimes this is not so easy when so many 
> stations call continuously.  I tend to use the P3 to find a relatively 
> free
> frequency to make my call from.   Maybe this is a problem in Europe 
> only but
> I doubt it.
>
>  The P3 remains a powerful tool which I would not like to be 
> without!
>
> 73 Doug EI2CN
>
> -Original Message-
> From: elecraft-boun...@mailman.qth.net 
> [mailto:elecraft-boun...@mailman.qth.net] On Behalf Of eric norris
> Sent: 09 March 2013 10:39
> To: elecraft@mailman.qth.net
> Subject: [Elecraft] The P3 Effect
>
> Has anyone else noticed just how many people are now able to pounce on 
> the last frequency TX5K used?  Back in the day you swapped VFOs and 
> listened for the calling station.  After I got my P3 it seemed to be a 
> real advantage because you could instantly find the calling station 
> (if you could hear him).  Now so many people do this it seems to 
> almost be a requirement to have a P3 or panadapter of some sort.  Of 
> course, I could be wrong.
>
> 73 Eric WD6DBM
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Re: [Elecraft] TX5K

2013-03-09 Thread Fred Smith
Dave

You did really well with a 100w my hats off to you and on the low bands
also. I was sick that morning that they were on 160m SSB it was fluke as
they were only to be on CW there. Oh well you can't have them all I was not
using my second K3/100 very few options that night in my SO2R it is all
Elecraft radio/amp/tuner for 80m. I was using my main K3/100 a fully loaded
one using a Palstar HF-Auto tuner and a Alpha 87A amp with a Alpha DAS. For
that contact I was using a Hy Gain AV-18HT with 24 1/4 wave length radials
for 80m. It works OK for the high bands 10-20m but is really an excellent
low band antenna 30-160m (have the top mounted 160m kit) must use tuner for
30/60m.

Yes and makes me almost ashamed to admit that I used legal limit for my
first contact but hey I wanted in early.

I use external tuners for about all HF gear except for my KX3 and the tuner
in it is amazing to say the least. One of these days I hope to receive a new
tuner I ordered last July a pre-order as such to get on a waiting list for
the Alpha 4040 auto tuner.

73,
Fred/N0AZZ
-Original Message-
From: Dyarnes [mailto:w7...@cox.net] 
Sent: Saturday, March 09, 2013 7:16 AM
To: Fred Smith; elecraft@mailman.qth.net
Subject: Re: [Elecraft] TX5K

Yep, I worked them on 160 SSB on the 8th, which was apparently about the
last day for that band.  I worked them on 160 CW a few days earlier.  Not
sure why the antenna for 160 and 80 came down so early--maybe it blew
down???  It seems like after they crossed the 100K QSO mark, their activity
started to fall off.  Perhaps that was their goal, and after that they
wanted to enjoy a little R & R?  Or, maybe the sand crabs got to them!  Hi.

Like you, I wasn't sure 160 SSB was on their agenda.  I don't think VP6DX
brought up anything on 160 SSB, so maybe that's not considered to be a
particularly productive band/mode combination.  In any event, the TX5K
website had a neat feature that showed, at any point in time, just what
bands and modes were active.  At this moment they are still only operating
on 40 SSB.  It's odd to only see one position light on.  Usually there were
at least 4 or 5, and as many as 7 or 8.

As I mentioned previously, my working them on 80 and 160 is still sort of
amazing--to me anyway.  I say that because I've tried various "goofy" 
antennas on 160 before with almost no luck whatsoever.  An R8 vertical isn't
supposed to work on 80, let alone 160.  I had tried it, mainly as a lark, on
the VP6DX DXpedition.  Surprise!  Surprise!  They heard me!  You know my ERP
had to be just one step up from a dummy load.  It's proof positive that just
about anything will radiate something, and further provided whoever is at
the other end has a decent antenna to hear you with!  The R8 actually shows
a half-way decent SWR even without the tuner.  160 is more problematic, but
the KAT500 (or just the K3 internal ATU when running barefoot) will bring it
down to close to 1:1 on both bands.  That certainly substantiates some of
the performance claims by Elecraft.  If you just don't get greedy, and run
very much power, everything behaves nicely.

By the way, it was interesting to see them often on the same band with more
than one mode.  Not all DXpeditions do that--at least not as much.  I think
at least part of the credit for being able to do that is the Elecraft
equipment.

Dave, AA7EE posted a link to a very interesting historical summary of
Clipperton Island on the QRP-L reflector.  I've added the link below for
those who may be interested.  I found it fascinating!

The other historical thing I am reminded of is that, back around the time I
first got my license, there was a DXpedition to Clipperton Island by the
YASME group--mainly Lloyd Colvin (W6KG?).  It was all over the cover of CQ
Magazine.  Maybe that was the first DXpedition to Clipperton???  Do I also
remember that later there was some sort of "flap" about YASME?

Here's the link on Clipperton's history.

http://www.damninteresting.com/the-tyrant-clipperton-island/

Dave W7AQK

-Original Message-
From: Fred Smith
Sent: Saturday, March 09, 2013 3:13 AM
To: 'Dyarnes' ; elecraft@mailman.qth.net
Subject: RE: [Elecraft] TX5K

Did you work them on 160m phone (they weren't going to work 160 phone
according to them) I missed them on that and 12m SSB. Most all the early
info shows them shutting down today, haven't looked at their web site.

Good job to you! I hope we can work them as well on their next big
DXpedition (deep breath) I think a lot of people need it. These guys did a
great job and I liked the log as well as any I have ever seen.

BTW I tried for 20 mins the other morning after I had worked them QRO on 80m
SSB (1st call lucky) with my KX3 I was never heard. The noise floor was
rather high but I thought with their superior equipment 8>) that they might
hear me but no joy it was a poor band/mode choice, but I tried you never
know.

Fred/N0AZZ





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Re: [Elecraft] The P3 Effect

2013-03-09 Thread Jim Miller
I use both the P3 and the KRX3. P3 gives me a look at where the alligators
are so I can quickly disregard them and the few remaining pips I can
quickly check for real QSO activity. Sight and sound.

Alligators are very annoying, they also seem to be largely those with huge
signals (either they're all my neighbors or they have full gallons) and
huge skirts/clicks. Seems to be a pattern there...


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Re: [Elecraft] The P3 Effect

2013-03-09 Thread F5vjc
I can not say I find the P3 is at all useful in chasing DX, NOT the fault
of the P3 of course, it's the abysmal operating procedures of those
continuously calling or replying to the DX when it's clear he is calling or
working another station. All the P3 sees is a mass of simultaneously
calling stations and it's impossible to see and pick out (most times ) who
is actually working the DX.
The 2nd Rx is indispensible in my opinion and I'd rather have that than my
P3 any day.
Of course the P3 has other uses but for finding the Dx listening QRG?

73 F5VJC

On 9 March 2013 11:38, eric norris  wrote:

> Has anyone else noticed just how many people are now able to pounce on the
> last frequency TX5K used?  Back in the day you swapped VFOs and listened
> for the calling station.  After I got my P3 it seemed to be a real
> advantage because you could instantly find the calling station (if you
> could hear him).  Now so many people do this it seems to almost be a
> requirement to have a P3 or panadapter of some sort.  Of course, I could be
> wrong.
>
> 73 Eric WD6DBM
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Re: [Elecraft] The P3 Effect

2013-03-09 Thread Joe Subich, W4TV



Now so many people do this it seems to almost be a requirement to
have a P3 or panadapter of some sort.


I think the concentration of the pile-up on the last worked station
is due as much to CW Skimmer which highlights "5NN" as it is to the
P3 and other panadapters.  Given the skimmer behavior, the panadapter
seems to be an even greater advantage as it allows one to identify a
"hole" near the last worked station ...

I certainly feel "blind" when using a rig on the workbench without
the P3!

73,

   ... Joe, W4TV


On 3/9/2013 5:38 AM, eric norris wrote:

Has anyone else noticed just how many people are now able to pounce
on the last frequency TX5K used?  Back in the day you swapped VFOs
and listened for the calling station.  After I got my P3 it seemed to
be a real advantage because you could instantly find the calling
station (if you could hear him).  Now so many people do this it seems
to almost be a requirement to have a P3 or panadapter of some sort.
Of course, I could be wrong.

73 Eric WD6DBM
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Re: [Elecraft] [K2] Power supply for KAT100-1

2013-03-09 Thread Don Wilhelm
One safety thing I should point out is that a power supply will 
typically fold back if the current is greater than the current rating of 
the supply, but all power cables that are of a smaller gauge than the 
current handling capability of the supply should be fused at the power 
supply end with a fuse.  The fuse current rating should be matched to 
the wire gauge.
If you do not know the current handling of a particular wire gauge, 
consult a copper wire table.


Be safe.

73,
Don W3FPR
On 3/9/2013 8:41 AM, K1FFX wrote:

Mike and Don -

Thanks for your replies.   I use either an Astron 20 or the MFJ-4125 (about
22 amp
switching supply) with the K2/100, usually running at the 100 watt output
level.
Sure would be great if one or both supplies would be adequate for running
both the rig
and the KAT100.  Your thoughts?



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Re: [Elecraft] [K2] Power supply for KAT100-1

2013-03-09 Thread Don Wilhelm

Bruce,

The KAT100 draws very little current after it has tuned, so it will not 
add much of a load for normal operation.
The KPA100 sets the tuning power at 20 watts, so there is plenty of 
current left over for the KAT100 tune cycle.
The nominal draw of the KPA100 is about 17 Amps at 100 watts, so your 20 
amp supply should be sufficient for both.


73,
Don W3FPR

On 3/9/2013 8:41 AM, K1FFX wrote:

Mike and Don -

Thanks for your replies.   I use either an Astron 20 or the MFJ-4125 (about
22 amp
switching supply) with the K2/100, usually running at the 100 watt output
level.
Sure would be great if one or both supplies would be adequate for running
both the rig
and the KAT100.  Your thoughts?




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Re: [Elecraft] [K2] Power supply for KAT100-1

2013-03-09 Thread K1FFX
Mike and Don -

Thanks for your replies.   I use either an Astron 20 or the MFJ-4125 (about
22 amp
switching supply) with the K2/100, usually running at the 100 watt output
level.
Sure would be great if one or both supplies would be adequate for running
both the rig
and the KAT100.  Your thoughts?

Thanks again!

Bruce K1FFX




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Re: [Elecraft] The P3 Effect

2013-03-09 Thread N4OI - Ken
Doug Turnbull wrote
> [... as so many are constantly calling a DX station that determining who
> is supposed to be there is difficult.   [...] I tend to use the P3 to find
> a relatively free frequency to make my call from.   [...] The P3
> remains a powerful tool which I would not like to be without!

This has also been my experience.  In a pileup where the DX is listening up,
I can see on the P3 that many strong stations just keep on sending while the
DX is making an exchange.  What is with these operators?  Is it because they
do not have QSK amps and cannot hear the DX while they keep sending?  

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Re: [Elecraft] TX5K

2013-03-09 Thread Keith Heimbold
I was a little bummed to not have a chance to work them on 160/80 this week as 
I was out on business travel until Thursday night and I didn't see them on the 
cluster in those bands friday or yesterday morning pacific time. I did get to 
work them on five bands in about 35 minutes over two days. 

The K3 did a nice job of picking them up on my inverted V on 40m and lower than 
optimal height mounted three element SteppIR on a couple higher bands.

Keith
AK6ZZ

Sent from my iPhone please excuse typos

On Mar 9, 2013, at 5:16 AM, "Dyarnes"  wrote:

> Yep, I worked them on 160 SSB on the 8th, which was apparently about the last 
> day for that band.  I worked them on 160 CW a few days earlier.  Not sure why 
> the antenna for 160 and 80 came down so early--maybe it blew down???  It 
> seems like after they crossed the 100K QSO mark, their activity started to 
> fall off.  Perhaps that was their goal, and after that they wanted to enjoy a 
> little R & R?  Or, maybe the sand crabs got to them!  Hi.
> 
> Like you, I wasn't sure 160 SSB was on their agenda.  I don't think VP6DX 
> brought up anything on 160 SSB, so maybe that's not considered to be a 
> particularly productive band/mode combination.  In any event, the TX5K 
> website had a neat feature that showed, at any point in time, just what bands 
> and modes were active.  At this moment they are still only operating on 40 
> SSB.  It's odd to only see one position light on.  Usually there were at 
> least 4 or 5, and as many as 7 or 8.
> 
> As I mentioned previously, my working them on 80 and 160 is still sort of 
> amazing--to me anyway.  I say that because I've tried various "goofy" 
> antennas on 160 before with almost no luck whatsoever.  An R8 vertical isn't 
> supposed to work on 80, let alone 160.  I had tried it, mainly as a lark, on 
> the VP6DX DXpedition.  Surprise!  Surprise!  They heard me!  You know my ERP 
> had to be just one step up from a dummy load.  It's proof positive that just 
> about anything will radiate something, and further provided whoever is at the 
> other end has a decent antenna to hear you with!  The R8 actually shows a 
> half-way decent SWR even without the tuner.  160 is more problematic, but the 
> KAT500 (or just the K3 internal ATU when running barefoot) will bring it down 
> to close to 1:1 on both bands.  That certainly substantiates some of the 
> performance claims by Elecraft.  If you just don't get greedy, and run very 
> much power, everything behaves nicely.
> 
> By the way, it was interesting to see them often on the same band with more 
> than one mode.  Not all DXpeditions do that--at least not as much.  I think 
> at least part of the credit for being able to do that is the Elecraft 
> equipment.
> 
> Dave, AA7EE posted a link to a very interesting historical summary of 
> Clipperton Island on the QRP-L reflector.  I've added the link below for 
> those who may be interested.  I found it fascinating!
> 
> The other historical thing I am reminded of is that, back around the time I 
> first got my license, there was a DXpedition to Clipperton Island by the 
> YASME group--mainly Lloyd Colvin (W6KG?).  It was all over the cover of CQ 
> Magazine.  Maybe that was the first DXpedition to Clipperton???  Do I also 
> remember that later there was some sort of "flap" about YASME?
> 
> Here's the link on Clipperton's history.
> 
> http://www.damninteresting.com/the-tyrant-clipperton-island/
> 
> Dave W7AQK
> 
> -Original Message- From: Fred Smith
> Sent: Saturday, March 09, 2013 3:13 AM
> To: 'Dyarnes' ; elecraft@mailman.qth.net
> Subject: RE: [Elecraft] TX5K
> 
> Did you work them on 160m phone (they weren't going to work 160 phone
> according to them) I missed them on that and 12m SSB. Most all the early
> info shows them shutting down today, haven't looked at their web site.
> 
> Good job to you! I hope we can work them as well on their next big
> DXpedition (deep breath) I think a lot of people need it. These guys did a
> great job and I liked the log as well as any I have ever seen.
> 
> BTW I tried for 20 mins the other morning after I had worked them QRO on 80m
> SSB (1st call lucky) with my KX3 I was never heard. The noise floor was
> rather high but I thought with their superior equipment 8>) that they might
> hear me but no joy it was a poor band/mode choice, but I tried you never
> know.
> 
> Fred/N0AZZ
> 
> 
> 
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Re: [Elecraft] [KX3] Portable Antenna question

2013-03-09 Thread Michael Babineau
Lynn :

If you are looking for an end-fed wire length that is easy to match from 80m 
through 10m 
I would suggest you try something in the 84 to 86 ft range.  This can be small 
gauge wire
(i.e. 22 to 26 AWG) and plastic camping clothesline reels work well to store 
this length. 

The Wire Man sells something called "Invisible Toughcoat Slinky" ( #534)
that is perfect for this type of antenna.   

http://thewireman.com/antennap.html

You can work this against a few ground radials (I suggest 4+, about 1/8 
wavelength long at your 
lowest operating frequency).  Another option is to use an elevated 16 ft wire 
for the other half
of the antenna (Google W3EDP).

This 84 to 86 ft length is one of the "magical lengths" that is not close to a 
half wave multiple 
on any of the amateur bands (with perhaps the exception of 10m) so it presents 
a reasonable
impedance to your tuner across the HF spectrum. 

If you don't care about 80 and want to go with something shorter try a 28 ft 
wire. It should 
easily match on 40m through 20m without any issues. 

Best of luck 

Michael VE3WMB 

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Re: [Elecraft] The P3 Effect

2013-03-09 Thread Scott Dunlavey
that is how I have been using the P3 as well... with great success I 
must say...
I wonder if they had the same conversation when the DX Cluster was first 
introduced... just wondering

Scott
w2ntv


On Sat, Mar 9, 2013 at 8:02 AM, Doug Turnbull wrote:


Eric,
This seldom works for me as so many are constantly calling a DX 
station
that determining who is supposed to be there is difficult.   I have to 
tune

and listen with the K3 and sometimes this is not so easy when so many
stations call continuously.  I tend to use the P3 to find a relatively 
free
frequency to make my call from.   Maybe this is a problem in Europe 
only but

I doubt it.

 The P3 remains a powerful tool which I would not like to be 
without!


73 Doug EI2CN

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[mailto:elecraft-boun...@mailman.qth.net] On Behalf Of eric norris
Sent: 09 March 2013 10:39
To: elecraft@mailman.qth.net
Subject: [Elecraft] The P3 Effect

Has anyone else noticed just how many people are now able to pounce on 
the
last frequency TX5K used?  Back in the day you swapped VFOs and 
listened for
the calling station.  After I got my P3 it seemed to be a real 
advantage
because you could instantly find the calling station (if you could 
hear
him).  Now so many people do this it seems to almost be a requirement 
to

have a P3 or panadapter of some sort.  Of course, I could be wrong.  

73 Eric WD6DBM
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Re: [Elecraft] TX5K

2013-03-09 Thread Dyarnes
Yep, I worked them on 160 SSB on the 8th, which was apparently about the 
last day for that band.  I worked them on 160 CW a few days earlier.  Not 
sure why the antenna for 160 and 80 came down so early--maybe it blew 
down???  It seems like after they crossed the 100K QSO mark, their activity 
started to fall off.  Perhaps that was their goal, and after that they 
wanted to enjoy a little R & R?  Or, maybe the sand crabs got to them!  Hi.


Like you, I wasn't sure 160 SSB was on their agenda.  I don't think VP6DX 
brought up anything on 160 SSB, so maybe that's not considered to be a 
particularly productive band/mode combination.  In any event, the TX5K 
website had a neat feature that showed, at any point in time, just what 
bands and modes were active.  At this moment they are still only operating 
on 40 SSB.  It's odd to only see one position light on.  Usually there were 
at least 4 or 5, and as many as 7 or 8.


As I mentioned previously, my working them on 80 and 160 is still sort of 
amazing--to me anyway.  I say that because I've tried various "goofy" 
antennas on 160 before with almost no luck whatsoever.  An R8 vertical isn't 
supposed to work on 80, let alone 160.  I had tried it, mainly as a lark, on 
the VP6DX DXpedition.  Surprise!  Surprise!  They heard me!  You know my ERP 
had to be just one step up from a dummy load.  It's proof positive that just 
about anything will radiate something, and further provided whoever is at 
the other end has a decent antenna to hear you with!  The R8 actually shows 
a half-way decent SWR even without the tuner.  160 is more problematic, but 
the KAT500 (or just the K3 internal ATU when running barefoot) will bring it 
down to close to 1:1 on both bands.  That certainly substantiates some of 
the performance claims by Elecraft.  If you just don't get greedy, and run 
very much power, everything behaves nicely.


By the way, it was interesting to see them often on the same band with more 
than one mode.  Not all DXpeditions do that--at least not as much.  I think 
at least part of the credit for being able to do that is the Elecraft 
equipment.


Dave, AA7EE posted a link to a very interesting historical summary of 
Clipperton Island on the QRP-L reflector.  I've added the link below for 
those who may be interested.  I found it fascinating!


The other historical thing I am reminded of is that, back around the time I 
first got my license, there was a DXpedition to Clipperton Island by the 
YASME group--mainly Lloyd Colvin (W6KG?).  It was all over the cover of CQ 
Magazine.  Maybe that was the first DXpedition to Clipperton???  Do I also 
remember that later there was some sort of "flap" about YASME?


Here's the link on Clipperton's history.

http://www.damninteresting.com/the-tyrant-clipperton-island/

Dave W7AQK

-Original Message- 
From: Fred Smith

Sent: Saturday, March 09, 2013 3:13 AM
To: 'Dyarnes' ; elecraft@mailman.qth.net
Subject: RE: [Elecraft] TX5K

Did you work them on 160m phone (they weren't going to work 160 phone
according to them) I missed them on that and 12m SSB. Most all the early
info shows them shutting down today, haven't looked at their web site.

Good job to you! I hope we can work them as well on their next big
DXpedition (deep breath) I think a lot of people need it. These guys did a
great job and I liked the log as well as any I have ever seen.

BTW I tried for 20 mins the other morning after I had worked them QRO on 80m
SSB (1st call lucky) with my KX3 I was never heard. The noise floor was
rather high but I thought with their superior equipment 8>) that they might
hear me but no joy it was a poor band/mode choice, but I tried you never
know.

Fred/N0AZZ



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Re: [Elecraft] The P3 Effect

2013-03-09 Thread Brian Alsop
It's called "progress".  It doesn't have to be a P3.  Look at the ire 
the use of SKIMMER has generated.


Now guys have to figure out how to intelligently use the new gadgetry. 
Working DX will still be an developing skill. Those without the 
technology will moan and complain about it being unfair of course.


Which brings up another technology.  Remote operating.  The advantage 
there could be huge.  But in the future, many will have no choice.  So 
how do we judge remotes?


73 de Brian/K3KO


On 3/9/2013 12:52, a...@twcny.rr.com wrote:

Perhaps this is why DXpeditions seem to play "spin the dial" more;
having many stations converge on the last rx frequency probably tends
to slow their rate.  I experienced this effect at PZ5RO.  It would be
interesting to get feedback from DXpedition ops.

73, Redd - AI2N

 eric norris  wrote:

Has anyone else noticed just how many people are now able to pounce
on the last frequency TX5K used?  Back in the day you swapped VFOs
and listened for the calling station.  After I got my P3 it seemed
to be a real advantage because you could instantly find the calling
station (if you could hear him).  Now so many people do this it
seems to almost be a requirement to have a P3 or panadapter of some
sort.  Of course, I could be wrong.

73 Eric WD6DBM



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[Elecraft] WTB: K3 400Hz CW Filter

2013-03-09 Thread Bill - W4RM
Want to Buy :

 

K3 400Hz CW Filter 

 

I'm looking for a K3 KFL3A-400, 8 pole CW Filter. Let me know what you have,
condition and price shipped to VA.

 

 

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Re: [Elecraft] The P3 Effect

2013-03-09 Thread Doug Turnbull
Eric,
This seldom works for me as so many are constantly calling a DX station
that determining who is supposed to be there is difficult.   I have to tune
and listen with the K3 and sometimes this is not so easy when so many
stations call continuously.  I tend to use the P3 to find a relatively free
frequency to make my call from.   Maybe this is a problem in Europe only but
I doubt it.

 The P3 remains a powerful tool which I would not like to be without!

73 Doug EI2CN

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[mailto:elecraft-boun...@mailman.qth.net] On Behalf Of eric norris
Sent: 09 March 2013 10:39
To: elecraft@mailman.qth.net
Subject: [Elecraft] The P3 Effect

Has anyone else noticed just how many people are now able to pounce on the
last frequency TX5K used?  Back in the day you swapped VFOs and listened for
the calling station.  After I got my P3 it seemed to be a real advantage
because you could instantly find the calling station (if you could hear
him).  Now so many people do this it seems to almost be a requirement to
have a P3 or panadapter of some sort.  Of course, I could be wrong.  

73 Eric WD6DBM
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Re: [Elecraft] The P3 Effect

2013-03-09 Thread ai2n
Perhaps this is why DXpeditions seem to play "spin the dial" more; having many 
stations converge on the last rx frequency probably tends to slow their rate.  
I experienced this effect at PZ5RO.  It would be interesting to get feedback 
from DXpedition ops.

73, Redd - AI2N

 eric norris  wrote: 
> Has anyone else noticed just how many people are now able to pounce on the 
> last frequency TX5K used?  Back in the day you swapped VFOs and listened for 
> the calling station.  After I got my P3 it seemed to be a real advantage 
> because you could instantly find the calling station (if you could hear him). 
>  Now so many people do this it seems to almost be a requirement to have a P3 
> or panadapter of some sort.  Of course, I could be wrong.  
> 
> 73 Eric WD6DBM
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[Elecraft] Elecraft K3 Build ­ Unboxing ­ Page 4

2013-03-09 Thread Nick Palomba
In the continuing saga of the Elecraft K3 Build the package arrived last
night but due to some other factors in the house I waited until first thing
in the morning. One of the factors was I wanted to get my cameras out and
setup for the unpacking of the radio. As many of you ­ my wife and daughters
find it a little strange at times that I¹m doing video production in the
breakfast nook but we are short on space and I love to write my blog so I
normally do these things in the morning when I¹m up before the rosters.

http://nicktoday.com/elecraft-k3-build-unboxing-page-4/


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[Elecraft] The P3 Effect

2013-03-09 Thread eric norris
Has anyone else noticed just how many people are now able to pounce on the last 
frequency TX5K used?  Back in the day you swapped VFOs and listened for the 
calling station.  After I got my P3 it seemed to be a real advantage because 
you could instantly find the calling station (if you could hear him).  Now so 
many people do this it seems to almost be a requirement to have a P3 or 
panadapter of some sort.  Of course, I could be wrong.  

73 Eric WD6DBM
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Re: [Elecraft] TX5K

2013-03-09 Thread Fred Smith
Did you work them on 160m phone (they weren't going to work 160 phone
according to them) I missed them on that and 12m SSB. Most all the early
info shows them shutting down today, haven't looked at their web site.

Good job to you! I hope we can work them as well on their next big
DXpedition (deep breath) I think a lot of people need it. These guys did a
great job and I liked the log as well as any I have ever seen.

BTW I tried for 20 mins the other morning after I had worked them QRO on 80m
SSB (1st call lucky) with my KX3 I was never heard. The noise floor was
rather high but I thought with their superior equipment 8>) that they might
hear me but no joy it was a poor band/mode choice, but I tried you never
know.

Fred/N0AZZ



-Original Message-
From: elecraft-boun...@mailman.qth.net
[mailto:elecraft-boun...@mailman.qth.net] On Behalf Of Dyarnes
Sent: Saturday, March 09, 2013 3:01 AM
To: elecraft@mailman.qth.net
Subject: [Elecraft] TX5K

Hi All,

Apparently they are starting to shut things down--a bit early it seems!  My
DX cluster had a note that the 160/80 antennas are down now!  Nothing on
their blog about that.  Supposedly they still have almost 2 days to go.  At
this moment they only have 40 SSB  up and running!

I guess I've worked them everywhere I can.  I have them on all CW bands
(except 6 meters, of course), and all SSB bands except 80 meters (and 6
meters).  Also on 3 digi bands--30, 20, and 17.  19 band slots in all.  It
has been fun snagging them, and the Elecraft stuff here all performed just
great!  I'm particularly please with how much easier things are now that I
have the KAT500.  With my antenna situation here it really makes a big
difference.  Clipperton isn't so far away that it is a big deal to work
them, except the competition is ferocious.  The folks who worked them
running QRP have much bigger bragging rights.  Well done!

The real kick in the pants is working them on RTTY without a computer!  That
feature in the K3 (and the KX3) is so cool!  This time around I just
loaded a couple of memories with the ID info and the report info.  I've done
it with direct paddle input in the past, but using the memories makes it a
snap on DX stuff.  I wanted to try it with the KX3, but the competition was
so heavy, and my antenna so inadequate, I had to go to the K3 with a bit
more power.

Working them on 160 SSB, but not 80 SSB was something of a surprise.  I bet
I'm in just the wrong spot propagation wise for 80 meters.  I could even
hear some of the Europeans working them.  Guess I should have started trying
a lot earlier!

The TX5K website is pretty slick!  You can see confirmation of your QSO
within just a minute or two.  These DXpeditions get fancier all the time
with this logging info.

Anyway, I had fun.  Hope a lot of other folks did too.

Dave W7AQK












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Re: [Elecraft] [KX3] Portable Antenna question

2013-03-09 Thread Fred Smith
Lynn

I posted this same question here and to a QRP Club I belong to sometime back
and received well over a 100 emails both on and off both reflectors. Many
ideas and some of my own derived from other designs that I adapted I will
give you 3 offhand in just a moment.

You spoke of a possible install in your car, if I might tell you what a
friend in CA. found after 3 mo of trying to get his KX3 and a 300w mobile
amp of some kind he had at the same time to go with it. He bought a mobile
mount ran all the wiring installed a Screwdriver antenna. After all that
work was and numerous calls to Elecraft and the radio sent for a mod of some
kind then a month of trying to get it to work still no joy. He sent it back
to Elecraft to have the mod removed and a new LCD display cover installed
because the other was scratched during all the in and outs. When returned he
sold it as he's not a QRP op that's a shame.

Antennas the one piece of equipment that I use for about everything as I'm
not a hiker and have limited mobility I drive to where I operate. But that
piece of gear is light weight it's a 31' fiberglass telescoping windsock
pole that has an eyelet on the top about 3 1/2" in dia. by 4' when collapsed
and weighs about 6#?? I have several other items that I use with this 2 5
gal plastic buckets like oil comes in to support the pole one can be filled
with rocks etc for weight the other is filled with concrete with a 4" ID
pipe in the center of it both will need a couple of guys on windy days. The
other is a steel plate that I can pull one tire on with a 4" ID pipe 30"
tall that hold the pole and lets the SUV serve as somewhat of a ground
plane.

I use a Par end fed 10/20/40 for one of them my second is a 31' vertical
with several counterpoise's that I have on rolls 6 of them 33' each.

The last one (s) are simple but the most effective single band made from
300ohm twin lead I have 5 of them cut and rolled 10/15/17/20/40m. These can
be setup as an Inverted V or a flattop dipole if you have other supports I
have a few small insulators and Dacron rope for guying and the supports.
These are the most effective with my KX3 because they allow all the power of
the radio to the antenna using the duel binding post BNC adapter. They don't
take up much room and are in the bottom of my Pelican case with all I carry.
it is a med size one for the KX3 plus I have a 250' roll of 18ga wire that I
take along just in case I need some.

I have not used all of these away from the house but have used them in the
back yard and they work well and all tune easily with the KX3's tuner. I had
always thought that my Icom 703+ had a good internal in it till Elecraft
came along, as with other things.

Get ready to have a lot of fun with your KX3 BTW I am now using mine for SWL
a lot of the time where I was using my K3 before.

73,
Fred/N0AZZ



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[mailto:elecraft-boun...@mailman.qth.net] On Behalf Of Lynn W. Taylor,
WB6UUT
Sent: Friday, March 08, 2013 10:52 PM
To: elecraft@mailman.qth.net
Subject: Re: [Elecraft] [KX3] Portable Antenna question

Of course -- and experimenting is half the fun.  I expect to go through a
lot of wire playing.

I'm pretty good with the theory -- and as everyone has said, it makes sense
to avoid feeding the end of a half-wave wire.

I haven't yet found the impedance range for the tuner in the manuals.  
I'm still reading.

I also moved not too long ago, and a lot of things (like my antenna
book) are in a box somewhere.  I'm still searching.  I think my Par
EF-20 is in one of those boxes, as is a nice chunk of coax with a BNC on one
end, and a PL-259 on the other.  I did find my straight key, but I haven't
been on CW this millenium.

... and I've got 100' of Wireman #534 due to arrive tomorrow.  I can always
buy more.

-- Lynn

On 3/8/2013 8:29 PM, Jim Brown wrote:
> The message here is the the KX3 is a radio, and the antennas that work 
> well with it are the same that work with any radio.

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[Elecraft] TX5K

2013-03-09 Thread Dyarnes

Hi All,

Apparently they are starting to shut things down--a bit early it seems!  My 
DX cluster had a note that the 160/80 antennas are down now!  Nothing on 
their blog about that.  Supposedly they still have almost 2 days to go.  At 
this moment they only have 40 SSB  up and running!


I guess I've worked them everywhere I can.  I have them on all CW bands 
(except 6 meters, of course), and all SSB bands except 80 meters (and 6 
meters).  Also on 3 digi bands--30, 20, and 17.  19 band slots in all.  It 
has been fun snagging them, and the Elecraft stuff here all performed just 
great!  I'm particularly please with how much easier things are now that I 
have the KAT500.  With my antenna situation here it really makes a big 
difference.  Clipperton isn't so far away that it is a big deal to work 
them, except the competition is ferocious.  The folks who worked them 
running QRP have much bigger bragging rights.  Well done!


The real kick in the pants is working them on RTTY without a computer!  That 
feature in the K3 (and the KX3) is so cool!  This time around I just 
loaded a couple of memories with the ID info and the report info.  I've done 
it with direct paddle input in the past, but using the memories makes it a 
snap on DX stuff.  I wanted to try it with the KX3, but the competition was 
so heavy, and my antenna so inadequate, I had to go to the K3 with a bit 
more power.


Working them on 160 SSB, but not 80 SSB was something of a surprise.  I bet 
I'm in just the wrong spot propagation wise for 80 meters.  I could even 
hear some of the Europeans working them.  Guess I should have started trying 
a lot earlier!


The TX5K website is pretty slick!  You can see confirmation of your QSO 
within just a minute or two.  These DXpeditions get fancier all the time 
with this logging info.


Anyway, I had fun.  Hope a lot of other folks did too.

Dave W7AQK












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