Re: [Elecraft] KX3 and Rocky 3.7

[Don Wilhelm]

Ken,

Take a look at 
http://us.store.creative.com/Creative-Sound-Blaster-XFi-Surround-5.1/M/B0044DEDCA.htm.
This is only one vendor and I am not endorsing it, just giving you a 
picture of the soundcard I am recommending.


73,
Don W3FPR

On 6/24/2013 10:49 PM, Kenneth A Christiansen wrote:

Thanks Don for your help.

I still need someone to give me a model number for a USB Sound Card that will 
work as I only want to do this once. I have been on the internet but none of 
the sound cards tell me if the mic input is stereo. The Creative X-Fi was too 
generic for me to tell which model to buy so if I had the rest of the model 
information that still might be the answer.

73 and thanks for any information.



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Re: [Elecraft] KX3 and Rocky 3.7

[Nick Garner]

One small correction, iSDR is from Digital Confections not Pignology.

http://digitalconfections.com/index.php?option=com_content&view=article&id=46&Itemid=54

73,
Nick
N3WG
On Jun 24, 2013 9:48 PM, "Don Wilhelm"  wrote:

> If that post (and photo) was from the Elecraft booth at Dayton, the iPad
> was running iSDR from Pignology.
>
> 73,
> Don W3FPR
>
> On 6/24/2013 11:36 PM, Richard Fjeld wrote:
>
>> I remember seeing a post with a link showing a person with a KX3 using an
>> iMic USB sound card. Furthermore, I recall him using an iPad, or similar,
>>  for the pan-adapter.  He demo'd it and as I recall, there was very little
>> latency to be seen.  It was the best I had seen to date. I think the link
>> was for YouTube.(maybe).
>> Dick, n0ce
>>
>> - Original Message -
>> *From:* Kenneth A Christiansen 
>> *To:* d...@w3fpr.com 
>> *Cc:* Elecraft@mailman.qth.net 
>> > >
>> *Sent:* Monday, June 24, 2013 9:49 PM
>> *Subject:* Re: [Elecraft] KX3 and Rocky 3.7
>>
>> Thanks Don for your help.
>>
>> I still need someone to give me a model number for a USB Sound
>> Card that will work as I only want to do this once. I have been on
>> the internet but none of the sound cards tell me if the mic input
>> is stereo. The Creative X-Fi was too generic for me to tell which
>> model to buy so if I had the rest of the model information that
>> still might be the answer.
>>
>> 73 and thanks for any information.
>>
>> Ken W0CZ w...@i29.net 
>>
>> Sent from my iPad
>>
>>
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Re: [Elecraft] KX3 and Rocky 3.7

[Don Wilhelm]

If that post (and photo) was from the Elecraft booth at Dayton, the iPad 
was running iSDR from Pignology.


73,
Don W3FPR

On 6/24/2013 11:36 PM, Richard Fjeld wrote:
I remember seeing a post with a link showing a person with a KX3 using 
an iMic USB sound card. Furthermore, I recall him using an iPad, or 
similar,  for the pan-adapter.  He demo'd it and as I recall, there 
was very little latency to be seen.  It was the best I had seen to 
date. I think the link was for YouTube.(maybe).

Dick, n0ce

- Original Message -
*From:* Kenneth A Christiansen 
*To:* d...@w3fpr.com 
*Cc:* Elecraft@mailman.qth.net 
*Sent:* Monday, June 24, 2013 9:49 PM
*Subject:* Re: [Elecraft] KX3 and Rocky 3.7

Thanks Don for your help.

I still need someone to give me a model number for a USB Sound
Card that will work as I only want to do this once. I have been on
the internet but none of the sound cards tell me if the mic input
is stereo. The Creative X-Fi was too generic for me to tell which
model to buy so if I had the rest of the model information that
still might be the answer.

73 and thanks for any information.

Ken W0CZ w...@i29.net 

Sent from my iPad



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Re: [Elecraft] KX3 and Rocky 3.7

[Richard Fjeld]

Here is the link at YouTube.

Dick, n0ce

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qUHbPZztkiY


  - Original Message - 
  From: Walter Underwood 
  To: Elecraft Discussion List 
  Sent: Monday, June 24, 2013 10:43 PM
  Subject: Re: [Elecraft] KX3 and Rocky 3.7


  Yes, people have reported good results with the Griffin iMic. Mine certainly 
has stereo in, because I've used it to rip stereo LPs.

  wunder
  K6WRU

  On Jun 24, 2013, at 8:36 PM, Richard Fjeld wrote:

  > I remember seeing a post with a link showing a person with a KX3 using an 
iMic USB sound card.  Furthermore, I recall him using an iPad, or similar,  for 
the pan-adapter.  He demo'd it and as I recall, there was very little latency 
to be seen.  It was the best I had seen to date. I think the link was for 
YouTube.(maybe).
  > 
  > Dick, n0ce
  >  - Original Message - 
  >  From: Kenneth A Christiansen 
  >  To: d...@w3fpr.com 
  >  Cc: Elecraft@mailman.qth.net 
  >  Sent: Monday, June 24, 2013 9:49 PM
  >  Subject: Re: [Elecraft] KX3 and Rocky 3.7
  > 
  > 
  >  Thanks Don for your help.
  > 
  >  I still need someone to give me a model number for a USB Sound Card that 
will work as I only want to do this once. I have been on the internet but none 
of the sound cards tell me if the mic input is stereo. The Creative X-Fi was 
too generic for me to tell which model to buy so if I had the rest of the model 
information that still might be the answer.
  > 
  >  73 and thanks for any information.
  > 
  >  Ken W0CZ   w...@i29.net
  > 
  >  Sent from my iPad
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Re: [Elecraft] 2 meter module

[Wayne Burdick]

The 2-meter module is in progress. 

73,
Wayne
N6KR

On Jun 24, 2013, at 7:28 PM, dan  wrote:

> Ok, so there is talk about the 100 watt pa and the K3/0 mini, but what
> happened to the 2 meter module for the KX3? Is it still in the works?
> Any info guys???
> By the way, this last weekend (Field Day Weekend) while at work my
> trusty KX3 and I worked into Ontario Canada from southern Louisiana on
> 10 watts on 6 meters. Wow, now thats an opening! I am in love!
> 
> Dan AD5NW
> Louisiana
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Re: [Elecraft] KX3 and Rocky 3.7

[Walter Underwood]

Yes, people have reported good results with the Griffin iMic. Mine certainly 
has stereo in, because I've used it to rip stereo LPs.

wunder
K6WRU

On Jun 24, 2013, at 8:36 PM, Richard Fjeld wrote:

> I remember seeing a post with a link showing a person with a KX3 using an 
> iMic USB sound card.  Furthermore, I recall him using an iPad, or similar,  
> for the pan-adapter.  He demo'd it and as I recall, there was very little 
> latency to be seen.  It was the best I had seen to date. I think the link was 
> for YouTube.(maybe).
> 
> Dick, n0ce
>  - Original Message - 
>  From: Kenneth A Christiansen 
>  To: d...@w3fpr.com 
>  Cc: Elecraft@mailman.qth.net 
>  Sent: Monday, June 24, 2013 9:49 PM
>  Subject: Re: [Elecraft] KX3 and Rocky 3.7
> 
> 
>  Thanks Don for your help.
> 
>  I still need someone to give me a model number for a USB Sound Card that 
> will work as I only want to do this once. I have been on the internet but 
> none of the sound cards tell me if the mic input is stereo. The Creative X-Fi 
> was too generic for me to tell which model to buy so if I had the rest of the 
> model information that still might be the answer.
> 
>  73 and thanks for any information.
> 
>  Ken W0CZ   w...@i29.net
> 
>  Sent from my iPad
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Re: [Elecraft] KX3 and Rocky 3.7

[Richard Fjeld]

I remember seeing a post with a link showing a person with a KX3 using an iMic 
USB sound card.  Furthermore, I recall him using an iPad, or similar,  for the 
pan-adapter.  He demo'd it and as I recall, there was very little latency to be 
seen.  It was the best I had seen to date. I think the link was for 
YouTube.(maybe).

Dick, n0ce
  - Original Message - 
  From: Kenneth A Christiansen 
  To: d...@w3fpr.com 
  Cc: Elecraft@mailman.qth.net 
  Sent: Monday, June 24, 2013 9:49 PM
  Subject: Re: [Elecraft] KX3 and Rocky 3.7


  Thanks Don for your help.

  I still need someone to give me a model number for a USB Sound Card that will 
work as I only want to do this once. I have been on the internet but none of 
the sound cards tell me if the mic input is stereo. The Creative X-Fi was too 
generic for me to tell which model to buy so if I had the rest of the model 
information that still might be the answer.

  73 and thanks for any information.

  Ken W0CZ   w...@i29.net

  Sent from my iPad

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Re: [Elecraft] OT: 2m beam orientation

[Hop - AC8NS]

- Original Message - 
From: "Jon Kåre Hellan" 

To: "Phil Kane" 
Cc: 
Sent: Sunday, June 23, 2013 3:20 AM
Subject: Re: [Elecraft] OT: 2m beam orientation



But of you do use the cloud, the NSA keeps a backup for you. Very useful.

Jon LA4RT

Den 23. juni 2013 kl. 05:47 skrev Phil Kane :



Very useful for the NSA, not so useful for you. The NSA has massive 
write-only memory. Bits go in, but they do not come back out.


For secure backups use two removable terabyte drives that you rotate to an 
off-site, preferably secret, storage facility at whatever interval is 
comfortable for you.


73
Hop - AC8NS

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Re: [Elecraft] KX3 and Rocky 3.7

[Matt Maguire]

I think he means this one:
http://us.store.creative.com/Creative-Sound-Blaster-XFi-Surround-5.1/M/B0044DEDCA.htm

As Don mentioned, you can add in some decoupling capacitors to make it a
bit quieter (after all, it is powered by the noisy USB).

73, Matt VK2RQ


On Tue, Jun 25, 2013 at 12:49 PM, Kenneth A Christiansen wrote:

> Thanks Don for your help.
>
> I still need someone to give me a model number for a USB Sound Card that
> will work as I only want to do this once. I have been on the internet but
> none of the sound cards tell me if the mic input is stereo. The Creative
> X-Fi was too generic for me to tell which model to buy so if I had the rest
> of the model information that still might be the answer.
>
> 73 and thanks for any information.
>
> Ken W0CZ   w...@i29.net
>
> Sent from my iPad
>
> On Jun 24, 2013, at 9:24 PM, Don Wilhelm  wrote:
>
> > Ken,
> >
> > Since the KX3 I/Q bandwidth is limited to something like 48kHz, you do
> not need an exotic soundcard which will give you a 192 kHz span, most
> external soundcards will do the job just fine.
> >
> > The Creative X-Fi soundcard is available at a modest price, and will do
> a 192 kHz span should you need it, but there may be other less costly
> options that I am not aware of.  The X-Fi can be modified with a couple of
> added capacitors to reduce the noise level - Google for the mod information.
> >
> > The biggest consideration for use with the KX3 RX I/Q output is the
> noise level rather than the bandwidth of the soundcard.
> >
> > 73,
> > Don W3FPR
> >
> > On 6/24/2013 10:11 PM, Kenneth A Christiansen wrote:
> >> Hi Don
> >>
> >> You answered and confirmed my suspicion. I suspect since I have a new
> Elecraft cable and the sound card only has the MIKE input that it is MONO.
> Do you know of a USB sound card that you will work? I would rather by
> something good that I know will work than spend money on something cheap
> that may not. I have got my use out of this sound card on digital ham
> programs.
> >>
> >> Sent from my iPad
> >>
> >> On Jun 24, 2013, at 8:51 PM, Don Wilhelm  wrote:
> >>
> >>> Ken,
> >>>
> >>> Are you getting a signal to the soundcard from both the I and Q
> channels?  What you are seeing is normal of only one channel is fed to the
> soundcard.
> >>>
> >>> In other words, check your cables.  Plug in the left channel only into
> the soundcard and see if you have a signal present, then do the same with
> the right channel.
> >>>
> >>> It may be a cabling problem, or your sound adapter may have only mono
> input.  Many external soundcards have mono input when the mic input is
> selected, but may (or may not) when the Line In is selected - I/Q decoding
> requires stereo soundcard input - if the input is mono, you will see
> exactly the condition you report.
> >>>
> >>> 73,
> >>> Don W3FPR
> >
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Re: [Elecraft] KX3 and Rocky 3.7

[Kenneth A Christiansen]

Thanks Don for your help.

I still need someone to give me a model number for a USB Sound Card that will 
work as I only want to do this once. I have been on the internet but none of 
the sound cards tell me if the mic input is stereo. The Creative X-Fi was too 
generic for me to tell which model to buy so if I had the rest of the model 
information that still might be the answer.

73 and thanks for any information.

Ken W0CZ   w...@i29.net

Sent from my iPad

On Jun 24, 2013, at 9:24 PM, Don Wilhelm  wrote:

> Ken,
> 
> Since the KX3 I/Q bandwidth is limited to something like 48kHz, you do not 
> need an exotic soundcard which will give you a 192 kHz span, most external 
> soundcards will do the job just fine.
> 
> The Creative X-Fi soundcard is available at a modest price, and will do a 192 
> kHz span should you need it, but there may be other less costly options that 
> I am not aware of.  The X-Fi can be modified with a couple of added 
> capacitors to reduce the noise level - Google for the mod information.
> 
> The biggest consideration for use with the KX3 RX I/Q output is the noise 
> level rather than the bandwidth of the soundcard.
> 
> 73,
> Don W3FPR
> 
> On 6/24/2013 10:11 PM, Kenneth A Christiansen wrote:
>> Hi Don
>> 
>> You answered and confirmed my suspicion. I suspect since I have a new 
>> Elecraft cable and the sound card only has the MIKE input that it is MONO. 
>> Do you know of a USB sound card that you will work? I would rather by 
>> something good that I know will work than spend money on something cheap 
>> that may not. I have got my use out of this sound card on digital ham 
>> programs.
>> 
>> Sent from my iPad
>> 
>> On Jun 24, 2013, at 8:51 PM, Don Wilhelm  wrote:
>> 
>>> Ken,
>>> 
>>> Are you getting a signal to the soundcard from both the I and Q channels?  
>>> What you are seeing is normal of only one channel is fed to the soundcard.
>>> 
>>> In other words, check your cables.  Plug in the left channel only into the 
>>> soundcard and see if you have a signal present, then do the same with the 
>>> right channel.
>>> 
>>> It may be a cabling problem, or your sound adapter may have only mono 
>>> input.  Many external soundcards have mono input when the mic input is 
>>> selected, but may (or may not) when the Line In is selected - I/Q decoding 
>>> requires stereo soundcard input - if the input is mono, you will see 
>>> exactly the condition you report.
>>> 
>>> 73,
>>> Don W3FPR
> 
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[Elecraft] 2 meter module

[dan]

Ok, so there is talk about the 100 watt pa and the K3/0 mini, but what
happened to the 2 meter module for the KX3? Is it still in the works?
Any info guys???
By the way, this last weekend (Field Day Weekend) while at work my
trusty KX3 and I worked into Ontario Canada from southern Louisiana on
10 watts on 6 meters. Wow, now thats an opening! I am in love!

Dan AD5NW
Louisiana
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Re: [Elecraft] KX3 and Rocky 3.7

[Don Wilhelm]

Ken,

Since the KX3 I/Q bandwidth is limited to something like 48kHz, you do 
not need an exotic soundcard which will give you a 192 kHz span, most 
external soundcards will do the job just fine.


The Creative X-Fi soundcard is available at a modest price, and will do 
a 192 kHz span should you need it, but there may be other less costly 
options that I am not aware of.  The X-Fi can be modified with a couple 
of added capacitors to reduce the noise level - Google for the mod 
information.


The biggest consideration for use with the KX3 RX I/Q output is the 
noise level rather than the bandwidth of the soundcard.


73,
Don W3FPR

On 6/24/2013 10:11 PM, Kenneth A Christiansen wrote:

Hi Don

You answered and confirmed my suspicion. I suspect since I have a new Elecraft 
cable and the sound card only has the MIKE input that it is MONO. Do you know 
of a USB sound card that you will work? I would rather by something good that I 
know will work than spend money on something cheap that may not. I have got my 
use out of this sound card on digital ham programs.

Sent from my iPad

On Jun 24, 2013, at 8:51 PM, Don Wilhelm  wrote:


Ken,

Are you getting a signal to the soundcard from both the I and Q channels?  What 
you are seeing is normal of only one channel is fed to the soundcard.

In other words, check your cables.  Plug in the left channel only into the 
soundcard and see if you have a signal present, then do the same with the right 
channel.

It may be a cabling problem, or your sound adapter may have only mono input.  
Many external soundcards have mono input when the mic input is selected, but 
may (or may not) when the Line In is selected - I/Q decoding requires stereo 
soundcard input - if the input is mono, you will see exactly the condition you 
report.

73,
Don W3FPR




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Re: [Elecraft] KX3 and Rocky 3.7

[Mike WA8BXN]

Ken, 
 
Getting the double signals very often is caused by not getting both I and Q
through the sound card into the computer. 
 
Here is a handy sound card oscilloscope program that can be used to see if
you are getting stereo input to a sound card. Get a male to male 1/8 cable.
Plug one end into the sound card. Touch the ring and tip at the other end to
see if you get input on one channel or the other (but not both just touching
ring or tip). 
 
73 - Mike WA8BXN 
 
 
 
 
On 6/24/2013 9:32 PM, Kenneth A Christiansen wrote: 
> I am trying to get Rocky 3.7 to work with my KX3 similar to the display of
the P3 and my K3. I have Rocky 3.7 running on my laptop computer and Windows
8. Rx I/Q is turned on in the menu of the KX3 and the cable supplied by
Elecraft is running to my Creative model SB1100 USB sound adapter. My sound
adapter is several years old so may not be the same as the new ones listed
on the Internet. 
> 
> Rocky Soundcard info 
> INPUT 
> Device 04 SBX-FiGo! 
> wFormatTag WAVE_FORMAT_PCM 
> nChannels 2 
> nSamplesPerSec: 48000 
> nAvgBytesPerSec: 19200 
> nBlockAlign: 4 
> wBitsPerSample: 16 
> cbSize: 0 
> wValidBitsPerSample: 0 
> dwChannelMask: 0 
> SubFormat: (----) 
> 
> I did not include the OUTPUT data as I am not using the transmit part 
> 
> My problem is I get two spikes for every signal. One is the correct one
but an equal sized spike is shown on the opposite side of the screen. I do
not think this is normal as I don't think other hams would want a display
with that problem. 
> 
> I have tried Rocky - View - Settings 
> Left/Right = I/Q 
> Left/Right = Q/I 
> Shift Right Channel Data by 
> -8,-7,-6,-5,-4,-3,-2,-1,0,+1,+2,+3,+4,+5,+6,+7,+8 
> 
> I don't know what else to try and I do wonder if the 
> USB sound card uses stereo for the microphone but I have not been able to
find that information on the Internet. 
> 
> I would appreciate any help. I feel it is so close to working but not
working right. 
> 
> Ken W0CZ w...@i29.net 
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Re: [Elecraft] KX3 and Rocky 3.7

[Kenneth A Christiansen]

Hi Don

You answered and confirmed my suspicion. I suspect since I have a new Elecraft 
cable and the sound card only has the MIKE input that it is MONO. Do you know 
of a USB sound card that you will work? I would rather by something good that I 
know will work than spend money on something cheap that may not. I have got my 
use out of this sound card on digital ham programs.

Sent from my iPad

On Jun 24, 2013, at 8:51 PM, Don Wilhelm  wrote:

> Ken,
> 
> Are you getting a signal to the soundcard from both the I and Q channels?  
> What you are seeing is normal of only one channel is fed to the soundcard.
> 
> In other words, check your cables.  Plug in the left channel only into the 
> soundcard and see if you have a signal present, then do the same with the 
> right channel.
> 
> It may be a cabling problem, or your sound adapter may have only mono input.  
> Many external soundcards have mono input when the mic input is selected, but 
> may (or may not) when the Line In is selected - I/Q decoding requires stereo 
> soundcard input - if the input is mono, you will see exactly the condition 
> you report.
> 
> 73,
> Don W3FPR
> 
> On 6/24/2013 9:32 PM, Kenneth A Christiansen wrote:
>> I am trying to get Rocky 3.7 to work with my KX3 similar to the display of 
>> the P3 and my K3. I have Rocky 3.7 running on my laptop computer and Windows 
>> 8. Rx I/Q is turned on in the menu of the KX3 and the cable supplied by 
>> Elecraft is running to my Creative model SB1100 USB sound adapter. My sound 
>> adapter is several years old so may not be the same as the new ones listed 
>> on the Internet.
>> 
>> Rocky Soundcard info
>> INPUT
>>  Device 04 SBX-FiGo!
>>  wFormatTag WAVE_FORMAT_PCM
>>  nChannels 2
>>  nSamplesPerSec: 48000
>>  nAvgBytesPerSec: 19200
>>  nBlockAlign: 4
>>  wBitsPerSample: 16
>>  cbSize: 0
>>  wValidBitsPerSample: 0
>>  dwChannelMask: 0
>>  SubFormat: (----)
>> 
>> I did not include the OUTPUT data as I am not using the transmit part
>> 
>> My problem is I get two spikes for every signal. One is the correct one but 
>> an equal sized spike is shown on the opposite side of the screen. I do not 
>> think this is normal as I don't think other hams would want a display with 
>> that problem.
>> 
>> I have tried Rocky - View - Settings
>>  Left/Right = I/Q
>>  Left/Right = Q/I
>>  Shift Right Channel Data by
>>  -8,-7,-6,-5,-4,-3,-2,-1,0,+1,+2,+3,+4,+5,+6,+7,+8
>> 
>> I don't know what else to try and I do wonder if the
>> USB sound card uses stereo for the microphone but I have not been able to 
>> find that information on the Internet.
>> 
>> I would appreciate any help. I feel it is so close to working but not 
>> working right.
>> 
>> Ken W0CZ  w...@i29.net
>> 
>> Sent from my iPad
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Re: [Elecraft] KX3 and Rocky 3.7

[Don Wilhelm]

Ken,

Are you getting a signal to the soundcard from both the I and Q 
channels?  What you are seeing is normal of only one channel is fed to 
the soundcard.


In other words, check your cables.  Plug in the left channel only into 
the soundcard and see if you have a signal present, then do the same 
with the right channel.


It may be a cabling problem, or your sound adapter may have only mono 
input.  Many external soundcards have mono input when the mic input is 
selected, but may (or may not) when the Line In is selected - I/Q 
decoding requires stereo soundcard input - if the input is mono, you 
will see exactly the condition you report.


73,
Don W3FPR

On 6/24/2013 9:32 PM, Kenneth A Christiansen wrote:

I am trying to get Rocky 3.7 to work with my KX3 similar to the display of the 
P3 and my K3. I have Rocky 3.7 running on my laptop computer and Windows 8. Rx 
I/Q is turned on in the menu of the KX3 and the cable supplied by Elecraft is 
running to my Creative model SB1100 USB sound adapter. My sound adapter is 
several years old so may not be the same as the new ones listed on the Internet.

Rocky Soundcard info
INPUT
  Device 04 SBX-FiGo!
  wFormatTag WAVE_FORMAT_PCM
  nChannels 2
  nSamplesPerSec: 48000
  nAvgBytesPerSec: 19200
  nBlockAlign: 4
  wBitsPerSample: 16
  cbSize: 0
  wValidBitsPerSample: 0
  dwChannelMask: 0
  SubFormat: (----)

I did not include the OUTPUT data as I am not using the transmit part

My problem is I get two spikes for every signal. One is the correct one but an 
equal sized spike is shown on the opposite side of the screen. I do not think 
this is normal as I don't think other hams would want a display with that 
problem.

I have tried Rocky - View - Settings
  Left/Right = I/Q
  Left/Right = Q/I
  Shift Right Channel Data by
  -8,-7,-6,-5,-4,-3,-2,-1,0,+1,+2,+3,+4,+5,+6,+7,+8

I don't know what else to try and I do wonder if the
USB sound card uses stereo for the microphone but I have not been able to find 
that information on the Internet.

I would appreciate any help. I feel it is so close to working but not working 
right.

Ken W0CZ  w...@i29.net

Sent from my iPad
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[Elecraft] KX3 and Rocky 3.7

[Kenneth A Christiansen]

I am trying to get Rocky 3.7 to work with my KX3 similar to the display of the 
P3 and my K3. I have Rocky 3.7 running on my laptop computer and Windows 8. Rx 
I/Q is turned on in the menu of the KX3 and the cable supplied by Elecraft is 
running to my Creative model SB1100 USB sound adapter. My sound adapter is 
several years old so may not be the same as the new ones listed on the 
Internet. 

Rocky Soundcard info 
INPUT
 Device 04 SBX-FiGo!
 wFormatTag WAVE_FORMAT_PCM
 nChannels 2
 nSamplesPerSec: 48000
 nAvgBytesPerSec: 19200
 nBlockAlign: 4
 wBitsPerSample: 16
 cbSize: 0
 wValidBitsPerSample: 0
 dwChannelMask: 0
 SubFormat: (----)

I did not include the OUTPUT data as I am not using the transmit part

My problem is I get two spikes for every signal. One is the correct one but an 
equal sized spike is shown on the opposite side of the screen. I do not think 
this is normal as I don't think other hams would want a display with that 
problem. 

I have tried Rocky - View - Settings
 Left/Right = I/Q 
 Left/Right = Q/I
 Shift Right Channel Data by 
 -8,-7,-6,-5,-4,-3,-2,-1,0,+1,+2,+3,+4,+5,+6,+7,+8

I don't know what else to try and I do wonder if the 
USB sound card uses stereo for the microphone but I have not been able to find 
that information on the Internet.

I would appreciate any help. I feel it is so close to working but not working 
right.

Ken W0CZ  w...@i29.net

Sent from my iPad
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Re: [Elecraft] KX3 internal batt. questions?

[Don Wilhelm]

Mike,

The KX3 uses 8 AA size batteries.  Access to the batteries is easy - 
loosen the 4 thumbscrews on the corners and separate the 2 halves.


You do not have access directly to the battery terminals.  The KXBC3 
option will keep NiMH batteries charged.  Without that option, the 
batteries must be removed for charging.


It is not like the K2 which uses an SLA (Sealed Lead Acid - aka Gell 
Cell) battery.  Alkaline AA cells can be used as well as NiMH, and 
although they are not rechargeable, they are commonly available in case 
of an emergency.


Yes, there is a series diode for reverse polarity protection.  The 
internal voltage will be about 0.3 volts less than the external supply.


73,
Don W3FPR

On 6/24/2013 11:29 AM, a...@sbcglobal.net wrote:

Dont have a KX3 (yet) but curious about the points below if someone can 
enlighten me?
  
Is access to terminals and exchange of  int. battery for KX3 as inconvenient as it is for the K2?

Is there a series diode on the ext. power connector that will cause forward 
bias voltage drop if powered by external battery?
  



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Re: [Elecraft] KX3 internal batt. questions?

[Mark Petiford]

I don't have a K2, but maybe I can shed some light on it:

<>
Access to the terminals is not really required to change the internal battery.  
You simply loosen the 4 screws that hold the case halves together, pull and 
rotate the case halves apart, remove the 8 cells from the holder, and replace 
them with new ones.

Take a look at the Owner's Manual, Page 23:

http://www.elecraft.com/manual/E740163%20KX3%20Owner%27s%20man%20Rev%20B4.pdf

I went with NiMH rechargeable cells since I don't trust alkaline cells to 
remained sealed.  NiMH can leak as well, but it is far less common and doesn't 
seem to be as destructive.  I have been using them for years, and the only 
leakage I have experienced has been with them sitting in a box completely 
discharged for several years.  The latest generation (Sanyo Eneloop among 
others) may be even better since they have a much lower self-discharge rate.  
That is what I use in my KX3.  Since I also use the KXBC3 charger, I seldom 
open the case.


<>
Yes, but it is on the Control Panel Board Assembly.  It is a CMS04 Schottky 
Barrier Diode, so the drop is only about 0.2 volts during receive, and 0.3 
volts during transmit.

Hope this helps.

Mark
KE6BB
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[Elecraft] K3/100 & P3 for sale

[Scott W2NTV]

K3/100 and P3 up for sale (selling for personal reasons)

K3/100
Sub RX
KATU
KXV3A
KDVR
P3 DSP Panadapter
also has weighted knobs N8BX black (VFO A and VFO B)
rs232/usb cable is included
new from Elecraft website $5129+ $158 (the knobs) = $5287  sell for 
$4600 plus shipping
all factory assembled and from a non smoking  shack.. very very nice 
radio... no marks 9.9/10
will only sell together and USA only... upon request I will send 
photos... please contact w2...@arrl.net ..

**MUST BE A LICENSED AMATEUR RADIO OPERATOR*


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Re: [Elecraft] ARRL Field Day

[Scotty Long]

Also thanks for all the great info I will pass this to our field day 
committee...

72/73/Scotty/NUØS


Scotty Long  wrote:

Thanks Mark have a great one...

72/73/Scotty/NUØS


Mark Pride  wrote:

Yeah, I feel your pain.  This issue is an evolutionary or incremental process 
to resolve the interference issues.

At my home station, I have run 5 stations at 1.5 KW (HF bands) and had to deal 
with problems you only can read about!!  Amazing what happens when you run HP, 
antennas pointed everywhere and all kinds of questionable cable/connector 
issues.

This year, our 3 el. 20 M monobander generated some broadband noise (tested 
before FD began) and it was resolved when we replaced a few rusty screws, etc. 
Hey, its all fun!

Regards,
Mark, K1RX


From: Scotty Long 
To: Mark Pride ; elecraft Post 
Sent: Monday, June 24, 2013 3:10 PM
Subject: Re: [Elecraft] ARRL Field Day



Very cool I told the guys not to point the beam at me but there must have been 
good DX in my direction hi hi... we use band pass filters as well; it was just 
my station with the most interference problems. My 5 watts on 20m with the K1 
did not bother the 100+ watt ssb 20m station... We live in what you folks call 
fly over  country so we have to swing the beam or run a less directional 
antenna like a vertical...I needed more distance from that station field day 
Saturday. Lessons learned for next year...

72/73/Scotty/NUØS


Mark Pride  wrote:


Scotty,

Our club has successfully run 5A for the past 6 years and winning every year.  
We run a CW and SSB station on each band at the same time while keeping within 
the 5A rules.  No issue but we use bandpass filters (to keep the other bands 
out) and separate the stations by a few hundred feet and being from the east 
coast, point our yagis (monoband yagis) West and place the deepest null in the 
pattern toward the station at the other end of the band.  Works well.

I recall a few times of testing, no noise from SSB while listening on the CW 
end of the band -  nice!

Regards,
Mark, K1RX
PCARC FD 2013 K1T




From: Scotty Long 
To: Ray Sills ; elecraft Post 
Sent: Monday, June 24, 2013 2:34 PM
Subject: Re: [Elecraft] ARRL Field Day


Our club was running 5A with SSB and CW stations on 20m at the same time... Bad 
choice...
73/Scotty/NU0SK1-4 #3206K2 I hope to build one as soon as I save up enough 
lunch money...HI HI..

> From: raysil...@verizon.net
> To: n...@hotmail.com
> Subject: Re: [Elecraft] ARRL Field Day
> Date: Mon, 24 Jun 2013 14:27:44 -0400
>
> Hi Scotty:
>
> With two stations you guys should have set rules:  no operating -
> in- the same band at the same time.  One station, say, on 20 and the
> other on 15 during daylight, then one on 80 and one on 20 or 40 at
> night.
>
> In my case, I was solo 1B battery so it didn't matter.  :)
>
> 73 de Ray
> K2ULR
> KX3 #211
>
>
> On Jun 24, 2013, at 12:12 PM, Scotty Long wrote:
>
> > ARRL Field Day...
> > Well I had a good time talking with friends and family that was
> > about it. The heat on Saturday here in Nebraska was terrible the
> > measured temp inside my tent was 104+ F with 90+++% humidity. But
> > hey that's what is says in the course description "Other than
> > favorable conditions". I had the Elecraft K1 all set up and tried to
> > call Polar Bear Kens furry hide WA8REI on 20m CW as he finished a
> > QSO with no joy Gr.  I was all set to run then the front
> > end of K1 was overloaded by our 20m phone station running a beam at
> > about 40 feet. Every time they called CQ field day I just could not
> > do anything.  I switched to my back up rig the Yaesu FT817... The
> > AGC cut the audio on this rig as well but at least I was able to do
> > some quick search and pounce work between the phone stations
> > transmissions.  I think I worked 17 total contacts Wow... Just for
> > information the phone ssb station was running a Drake TR7 100+ watts
> > into a 20m beam 40ft. I had the K1 or FT817 into a Buddipole v
> > ertical antenna at close to maximum separation ARRL field day
> > rules... all station properly grounded... I shut down late afternoon
> > and departed the area for cold air and drink... P.S. we all run band
> > pass filters but we were on the same band...
> > 73/Scotty/NU0S/Field Day K0KKV/Nebraska
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Re: [Elecraft] ARRL Field Day

[Scotty Long]

Thanks Mark have a great one...

72/73/Scotty/NUØS


Mark Pride  wrote:

Yeah, I feel your pain.  This issue is an evolutionary or incremental process 
to resolve the interference issues.

At my home station, I have run 5 stations at 1.5 KW (HF bands) and had to deal 
with problems you only can read about!!  Amazing what happens when you run HP, 
antennas pointed everywhere and all kinds of questionable cable/connector 
issues.

This year, our 3 el. 20 M monobander generated some broadband noise (tested 
before FD began) and it was resolved when we replaced a few rusty screws, etc. 
Hey, its all fun!

Regards,
Mark, K1RX


From: Scotty Long 
To: Mark Pride ; elecraft Post 
Sent: Monday, June 24, 2013 3:10 PM
Subject: Re: [Elecraft] ARRL Field Day



Very cool I told the guys not to point the beam at me but there must have been 
good DX in my direction hi hi... we use band pass filters as well; it was just 
my station with the most interference problems. My 5 watts on 20m with the K1 
did not bother the 100+ watt ssb 20m station... We live in what you folks call 
fly over  country so we have to swing the beam or run a less directional 
antenna like a vertical...I needed more distance from that station field day 
Saturday. Lessons learned for next year...

72/73/Scotty/NUØS


Mark Pride  wrote:


Scotty,

Our club has successfully run 5A for the past 6 years and winning every year.  
We run a CW and SSB station on each band at the same time while keeping within 
the 5A rules.  No issue but we use bandpass filters (to keep the other bands 
out) and separate the stations by a few hundred feet and being from the east 
coast, point our yagis (monoband yagis) West and place the deepest null in the 
pattern toward the station at the other end of the band.  Works well.

I recall a few times of testing, no noise from SSB while listening on the CW 
end of the band -  nice!

Regards,
Mark, K1RX
PCARC FD 2013 K1T




From: Scotty Long 
To: Ray Sills ; elecraft Post 
Sent: Monday, June 24, 2013 2:34 PM
Subject: Re: [Elecraft] ARRL Field Day


Our club was running 5A with SSB and CW stations on 20m at the same time... Bad 
choice...
73/Scotty/NU0SK1-4 #3206K2 I hope to build one as soon as I save up enough 
lunch money...HI HI..

> From: raysil...@verizon.net
> To: n...@hotmail.com
> Subject: Re: [Elecraft] ARRL Field Day
> Date: Mon, 24 Jun 2013 14:27:44 -0400
>
> Hi Scotty:
>
> With two stations you guys should have set rules:  no operating -
> in- the same band at the same time.  One station, say, on 20 and the
> other on 15 during daylight, then one on 80 and one on 20 or 40 at
> night.
>
> In my case, I was solo 1B battery so it didn't matter.  :)
>
> 73 de Ray
> K2ULR
> KX3 #211
>
>
> On Jun 24, 2013, at 12:12 PM, Scotty Long wrote:
>
> > ARRL Field Day...
> > Well I had a good time talking with friends and family that was
> > about it. The heat on Saturday here in Nebraska was terrible the
> > measured temp inside my tent was 104+ F with 90+++% humidity. But
> > hey that's what is says in the course description "Other than
> > favorable conditions". I had the Elecraft K1 all set up and tried to
> > call Polar Bear Kens furry hide WA8REI on 20m CW as he finished a
> > QSO with no joy Gr.  I was all set to run then the front
> > end of K1 was overloaded by our 20m phone station running a beam at
> > about 40 feet. Every time they called CQ field day I just could not
> > do anything.  I switched to my back up rig the Yaesu FT817... The
> > AGC cut the audio on this rig as well but at least I was able to do
> > some quick search and pounce work between the phone stations
> > transmissions.  I think I worked 17 total contacts Wow... Just for
> > information the phone ssb station was running a Drake TR7 100+ watts
> > into a 20m beam 40ft. I had the K1 or FT817 into a Buddipole v
> > ertical antenna at close to maximum separation ARRL field day
> > rules... all station properly grounded... I shut down late afternoon
> > and departed the area for cold air and drink... P.S. we all run band
> > pass filters but we were on the same band...
> > 73/Scotty/NU0S/Field Day K0KKV/Nebraska
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[Elecraft] K2/10 For Sale

[Luther Phillips]

For sale, K2/10 #4118, with following installed options:
KSB2 (with Kenwood hand mic)
K160RX
KAF2
KAT2
KIO2 (with short serial port cable)
KBT2 (with good battery, which is not installed)

Rig is in good to excellent condition. Just back from ARRL FD, N4DD & I
used it to make 736 CW contacts using two dipoles @ 5 watts output. Rig 
performed flawlessly. Filters have been aligned using SpectroGram. The top 
cover has a slight dent along the top right rear edge. Power cord with 
Anderson PP connectors, all manuals & docs. Pictures available. Selling to 
make room & raise funds for a K3. Price is $740 shipped & insured to CONUS 
addresses. PayPal or USPS MO ok, personal check also ok with clearance 
delay. Please reply direct.


Tnx & 73,
Luther N4UW 


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Re: [Elecraft] RS-232 over WiFi

[ab2tc]

Hi,

Hi.

I haven't reported here for a while so an update may be in order. My KAT500
installation using a Lantronics wifi adapter (I think they have only one
model) is still going strong, now enduring 90F heat. Fortunately the "cage"
is in almost total shade. In the winter I had no problems down to below
-20F. I wasn't aware that there were so may choices available for the wi-fi
adapter. The Lantronics is rather pricy so if any of these other sources
have a good return policy, it might be worth a try.

The Lantronics is very well made I have no doubt that it is reliable as many
have reported. But it isn't perfect. It's another example of an excellent
piece of hardware whose performance is marred by poorly written firmware
and/or PC drivers. E.g. the baud rate and likely other serial settings will
not change from the default which was set up using their web interface. A
B&B Ethernet adapter I was using previously did not have this flaw but I
changed it out in favor of the wi-fi because of problems with Ethernet
birdies.

AB2TC - Knut


Poul Erik Karlshøj (PKA)-2 wrote
> I am considering to place the KAT-500 outdoor near the antenna like Knut
> AB2TC has done (and reported to this group).
> Having looked on the internet for RS-232 to WiFi adapters I can find them
> in the price range from as low as 40 USD to as much as 350 USD.
> I wasn't aware of the variety!
> I wonder if someone in this group has any experience (good or bad) with
> RS-232 to WiFi units from:
> USConverters
> Nordfield
> USBGear
> ATC
> Lantronix
> Moxa
> Digi
> USR IOT
> 
> 73 de OZ4UN
> Poul-Erik
> 





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Re: [Elecraft] Elecraft and Ten-Tec

[Bill]

The best method is to find a local K3 and sit down with owner and let 
him show you the rig and how it operates.


Check with Elecraft - they can put you in contact with local owners. I 
did this and when I returned home, I placed my K3 order.


Bill W2BLC
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Re: [Elecraft] RS-232 over WiFi

[Igor Sokolov]

I have set up KAT500 near the antenna and have about 40 meters run of CAT5 
ethernet cable from the shack. Pleased to report that it works well even in 
presence of 1KW RF going through the tuner into the antenna. 13.8 V DC power 
supplied to KAT500 through the same cable.


73, Igor UA9CDC

- Original Message - 
From: "Poul Erik Karlshøj (PKA)" 

To: 
Sent: Monday, June 24, 2013 8:40 PM
Subject: [Elecraft] RS-232 over WiFi


I am considering to place the KAT-500 outdoor near the antenna like Knut 
AB2TC has done (and reported to this group).
Having looked on the internet for RS-232 to WiFi adapters I can find them 
in the price range from as low as 40 USD to as much as 350 USD.

I wasn't aware of the variety!
I wonder if someone in this group has any experience (good or bad) with 
RS-232 to WiFi units from:

USConverters
Nordfield
USBGear
ATC
Lantronix
Moxa
Digi
USR IOT

73 de OZ4UN
Poul-Erik
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Re: [Elecraft] ARRL Field Day

[Scotty Long]

Very cool I told the guys not to point the beam at me but there must have been 
good DX in my direction hi hi... we use band pass filters as well; it was just 
my station with the most interference problems. My 5 watts on 20m with the K1 
did not bother the 100+ watt ssb 20m station... We live in what you folks call 
fly over  country so we have to swing the beam or run a less directional 
antenna like a vertical...I needed more distance from that station field day 
Saturday. Lessons learned for next year...

72/73/Scotty/NUØS


Mark Pride  wrote:

Scotty,

Our club has successfully run 5A for the past 6 years and winning every year.  
We run a CW and SSB station on each band at the same time while keeping within 
the 5A rules.  No issue but we use bandpass filters (to keep the other bands 
out) and separate the stations by a few hundred feet and being from the east 
coast, point our yagis (monoband yagis) West and place the deepest null in the 
pattern toward the station at the other end of the band.  Works well.

I recall a few times of testing, no noise from SSB while listening on the CW 
end of the band -  nice!

Regards,
Mark, K1RX
PCARC FD 2013 K1T




From: Scotty Long 
To: Ray Sills ; elecraft Post 
Sent: Monday, June 24, 2013 2:34 PM
Subject: Re: [Elecraft] ARRL Field Day


Our club was running 5A with SSB and CW stations on 20m at the same time... Bad 
choice...
73/Scotty/NU0SK1-4 #3206K2 I hope to build one as soon as I save up enough 
lunch money...HI HI..

> From: raysil...@verizon.net
> To: n...@hotmail.com
> Subject: Re: [Elecraft] ARRL Field Day
> Date: Mon, 24 Jun 2013 14:27:44 -0400
>
> Hi Scotty:
>
> With two stations you guys should have set rules:  no operating -
> in- the same band at the same time.  One station, say, on 20 and the
> other on 15 during daylight, then one on 80 and one on 20 or 40 at
> night.
>
> In my case, I was solo 1B battery so it didn't matter.  :)
>
> 73 de Ray
> K2ULR
> KX3 #211
>
>
> On Jun 24, 2013, at 12:12 PM, Scotty Long wrote:
>
> > ARRL Field Day...
> > Well I had a good time talking with friends and family that was
> > about it. The heat on Saturday here in Nebraska was terrible the
> > measured temp inside my tent was 104+ F with 90+++% humidity. But
> > hey that's what is says in the course description "Other than
> > favorable conditions". I had the Elecraft K1 all set up and tried to
> > call Polar Bear Kens furry hide WA8REI on 20m CW as he finished a
> > QSO with no joy Gr.  I was all set to run then the front
> > end of K1 was overloaded by our 20m phone station running a beam at
> > about 40 feet. Every time they called CQ field day I just could not
> > do anything.  I switched to my back up rig the Yaesu FT817... The
> > AGC cut the audio on this rig as well but at least I was able to do
> > some quick search and pounce work between the phone stations
> > transmissions.  I think I worked 17 total contacts Wow... Just for
> > information the phone ssb station was running a Drake TR7 100+ watts
> > into a 20m beam 40ft. I had the K1 or FT817 into a Buddipole v
> > ertical antenna at close to maximum separation ARRL field day
> > rules... all station properly grounded... I shut down late afternoon
> > and departed the area for cold air and drink... P.S. we all run band
> > pass filters but we were on the same band...
> > 73/Scotty/NU0S/Field Day K0KKV/Nebraska
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Re: [Elecraft] Anderson Connector

[G8DX]

Thanks for all replies both on and off list.

I will take a look tomorrow and see if I
can improve it.

--
73 de G8DX/A

On 24 Jun 2013, at 13:42, Don Wilhelm  wrote:

> Jack,
> 
> The most common cause for that condition is that the connector blades have 
> not been inserted into the APP body far enough.
> Look at the end of the connector assembly - if you can see the tip of the 
> spring finger under the contact blade, then the blade has not been fully 
> seated - give it a push with a small screwdriver and it should snap into 
> place.
> 
> A properly constructed APP connector takes about 10 pounds of force to remove 
> it.
> 
> 73,
> Don W3FPR
> 
> On 6/24/2013 8:26 AM, G8DX wrote:
>> Hi
>> 
>> Just finished building the basic K3 (sub rx and 100w PA awaiting 
>> installation).
>> 
>> Total build time was about 10 leisurely hours spread over a week. Throughout 
>> the entire build I have only found one small issue which I find remarkable! 
>> Hats off to Elecraft.
>> 
>> Anyway, my issue is the Anderson power connector doesn't firmly latch onto 
>> the connector on the rig. It fits on and powers the rig but pulls off very 
>> easily. Have I installed it incorrectly maybe?
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Re: [Elecraft] ARRL Field Day

[Scotty Long]

Our club was running 5A with SSB and CW stations on 20m at the same time... Bad 
choice...
73/Scotty/NU0SK1-4 #3206K2 I hope to build one as soon as I save up enough 
lunch money...HI HI.. 

> From: raysil...@verizon.net
> To: n...@hotmail.com
> Subject: Re: [Elecraft] ARRL Field Day
> Date: Mon, 24 Jun 2013 14:27:44 -0400
> 
> Hi Scotty:
> 
> With two stations you guys should have set rules:  no operating - 
> in- the same band at the same time.  One station, say, on 20 and the  
> other on 15 during daylight, then one on 80 and one on 20 or 40 at  
> night.
> 
> In my case, I was solo 1B battery so it didn't matter.  :)
> 
> 73 de Ray
> K2ULR
> KX3 #211
> 
> 
> On Jun 24, 2013, at 12:12 PM, Scotty Long wrote:
> 
> > ARRL Field Day...
> > Well I had a good time talking with friends and family that was  
> > about it. The heat on Saturday here in Nebraska was terrible the  
> > measured temp inside my tent was 104+ F with 90+++% humidity. But  
> > hey that's what is says in the course description "Other than  
> > favorable conditions". I had the Elecraft K1 all set up and tried to  
> > call Polar Bear Kens furry hide WA8REI on 20m CW as he finished a  
> > QSO with no joy Gr.  I was all set to run then the front  
> > end of K1 was overloaded by our 20m phone station running a beam at  
> > about 40 feet. Every time they called CQ field day I just could not  
> > do anything.  I switched to my back up rig the Yaesu FT817... The  
> > AGC cut the audio on this rig as well but at least I was able to do  
> > some quick search and pounce work between the phone stations  
> > transmissions.  I think I worked 17 total contacts Wow... Just for  
> > information the phone ssb station was running a Drake TR7 100+ watts  
> > into a 20m beam 40ft. I had the K1 or FT817 into a Buddipole v
> > ertical antenna at close to maximum separation ARRL field day  
> > rules... all station properly grounded... I shut down late afternoon  
> > and departed the area for cold air and drink... P.S. we all run band  
> > pass filters but we were on the same band...
> > 73/Scotty/NU0S/Field Day K0KKV/Nebraska 
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Re: [Elecraft] P3 Strange behavior during sailboat Field Day

[Eduardo González]

Hi Bob, P3 behave as you described if serial connection is broken.
Check serial cable integrity, probably bad contact on connectors.

Edu YY4GMJ

On Mon, Jun 24, 2013 at 9:06 AM, Robert Sands  wrote:
> Awoke at 5 AM to make coffee and begin my final fun for Feild Day Sunday
> morning. Cool and damp in boat saloon. Turned on K3/P3 and noticed change
> in screen. P3 showed, for the first time, my signal on transmit but nothing
> on receive. Over the next 20 minutes this changed back to normal. It was
> nice to see my own signal. Also the "green passband" was missing. It is
> fine now. Cold? Dampness? Can I reproduce seeing my own signal without
> putting the P3 on ice?.
>
> K3 worked great. Got many comments like "strongest signal on band" with 100
> watts and 2 el vertical beams on 15 and 20 over saltwater.700 contacts and
> 7 hours of sleep. The K3 processor is the best ever! Set at 20-25 for
> contest.
> Bob
> K7VO
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Re: [Elecraft] ARRL Field Day

[Ariel Jacala]

The Field Day Operations for WM4AA and NY4G was up on Mt Pisgah in a campground 
near the Blue Ridge Parkway in NC at an elevation of approximately 5000 ft 
(give or take a few feet).  The rigs were a couple of KX3's running on external 
SLAs.  It was also our first opportunity to use the pneumatic tennis ball 
antenna launcher I built and 70 ft high trees were a "piece of cake".  The 
weather was wonderful - temps in the low 70s in the middle of the day and below 
60 at night on Saturday and the views were spectacular.  The antennas were a 
full size twin lead fed dipole (a modified G5RV) - tuned by the KX3's without 
even blinking from 80m through 10m, a 10-20-40 ParEndFedZ and a 15m monopole.  
I took advantage of the IQ output of the KX3 and it was S&P all the way on the 
NaP3 panadapter.  WM4AA employed about 85% S&P and 15% calling CQ.  We had a 
20w solar panel to help keep the batteries fresh.  There were absolutely no 
problems with the rigs and the KX3's performed marvelously. 
  It was our first Field Day with KX3s.  WM4AA's was brand new - just received 
a few days before - SN ~4500 and mine was built after last years FD in August 
2012 (SN 1211) and FD 2012 was done with a couple of K2's.  Kudos to Elecraft 
for engineering such a fine rig for QRP Field Days.  
Ariel NY4G


  
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Re: [Elecraft] Elecraft and Ten-Tec

[Dyarnes]

Hi All,

I like Jim Brown's comments best.  He gets right to the heart of a lot of 
it.


Seriously though, we see this kind of question a lot, and it's really 
difficult to give definitive answers, especially when we are talking about 
equipment from two highly regarded companies known for quality products.  A 
big problem, however, is really knowing exactly what is important, and what 
is not so important, to the person asking the question.  Rarely do we see 
"full disclosure" in this regard.


I will say this--in the past I have owned several Ten-Tec rigs.  They all 
performed well, and I thought Ten-Tec supported them well--exceptionally 
well in fact.  However, I am now pretty much totally equipped with Elecraft 
products.  I have my reasons for that--good reasons I think--but they may 
not be the same reasons someone else might have.  I would also say that 
Elecraft support is as good as it gets!


Here's what I think someone faced with this kind of decision should really 
do.  Download both manuals.  Read them thoroughly to get, not only a feel 
for what the rig can do, but how you make it do it.  See if you really think 
one or the other is too complex or convoluted for your personal pleasure. 
Next I would re-read each manual with a view towards picturing yourself 
operating that particular radio.  Think of the things you do normally when 
operating, and how each radio allows you to perform those tasks.  Do this 
carefully and thoroughly, though, because it is easy to gloss over certain 
things if you don't really give each item your full attention.  I know this 
sounds "painful", but how else are you really going to get some sort of feel 
for the radio, unless you actually have the opportunity to try it our first 
hand--that's obviously always preferable.


Anyway, this may lead to some very specific questions which can be more 
appropriately answered in a forum like this.  There well may be steps or 
procedures that aren't readily understood.  Those are specifics, and not 
necessarily judgmental questions.  Those are the kinds of questions that are 
apt to receive the most accurate response.


Of course, you should also check out the equipment reviews that appear in 
the better magazines.  You tend to get some pretty good performance info 
from these, and in some sort of comparable form.  These tend to be more 
technically oriented, but they often culminate in some subjective 
conclusions that may, or may not be totally useful--it depends on the 
reviewer!


I will say that I fully agree with Jim Brown's conclusion about the Elecraft 
menus.  Yes, they are extensive, and perhaps complex is an appropriate 
description, but they are for the most part what you need to "suffer 
through" in order to set the radio up initially.  Remember, these are very 
sophisticated pieces of gear.  Once you do that part, it's usually a "set it 
and forget it" situation.  The controls you then need most often are right 
there on the front panel.


Ten-Tec is not so easy for day to day operating in my view.  Too many 
adjustment I make normally and often require entry into the menu system, or 
at least excessive button pushing.  That's probably my biggest gripe with 
Ten-Tec these days, but again, that may not be a big deal for others.


Dave W7AQK


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Re: [Elecraft] Elecraft and Ten Tec

[Ron D'Eau Claire]

I would add to Dick's comments that the K3 "kit" is really just a mechanical
assembly, installing pc boards in the enclosure. No soldering, calibration
or alignment work need be done such as are common when assembling a kit from
discrete components. All the boards are tested and any calibration needed is
done at the factory. 

Assembling the K3 kit does acquaint you with the construction that makes
adding options easier since you know what's inside the radio.

You can buy the unit equipped with what you know you want and then easily
add other options - filters, ATU, etc. - later if you decide you want them. 

73 Ron AC7AC 

-Original Message-
From: elecraft-boun...@mailman.qth.net
[mailto:elecraft-boun...@mailman.qth.net] On Behalf Of Richard Fjeld
Sent: Monday, June 24, 2013 8:18 AM
To: Rip R; elecraft@mailman.qth.net
Subject: Re: [Elecraft] Elecraft and Ten Tec

Roger,

I went through the same decision process as you a few years ago.  I had a
Ten-Tec at the time. I bought my K3 kit sight unseen.

As for the radio, I can't imagine anything better that my ears would notice.
(I use a CM500 headset/boom mike.)  I bought the 8-pole filters to give it
the steepest skirts.  I bought a few extras, but I did not stuff it full.  I
find the K3 QSK is excellent if you are wondering.  Pretty much, everything
about CW is user tailored.  The CWT feature is great. 

I find operating conveniences are excellent. The chassis size has been fine
for me.

As for the menu question, it gives me no trouble, and using a menu is seldom
needed. IMHO, the menu system is easy to use, and affords versatility to the
radio.

Your decision should include the future possibility of adding a P3 pan
adapter.  It adds flexibility and control to operating. Even if you only
ragchew, it will show interference on the band and is a valuable aid for
trouble shooting. 

All things are relative. I recommend you consider your vision if your plans
are to build a kit.

Dick, n0ce

  - Original Message -
  From: Rip R
  To: elecraft@mailman.qth.net
  Sent: Saturday, June 22, 2013 6:30 PM
  Subject: [Elecraft] Elecraft and Ten Tec


  It is time for a new rig; actually my first "new" rig in many years since
I
  typically buy a used rig from someone.
  I own both Elecraft and Ten Tec; K-1 and Omni 6 among others. The choice I
  am working on now is that of
  either the K-3 or the Eagle. The K-3 with one filter for CW will be more
  expensive than the Eagle with one filter (not by much)
  and of course the Eagle is not a kit. I operate mostly CW for rag chew,
  occasional contest, and DX. I do not
  think that I need all the options shown on the Elecraft website order
form.
  I have never seen a K-3 up close,
  but I am concerned about the menu that some say takes a lot of getting
used
  to. So several questions: is the menu
  concern not really an issue (?) or is it ; do I need anything else in the
  way of options (I have a good ATU) (?); and does
  the physical size of the control face pose a problem in your opinion.
  Please feel free to reply directly offline since
  I am sure the list has heard these questions many times. I would like to
  hear from you. 73s Roger  W7RIP
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Re: [Elecraft] ARRL Field Day

[bill conkling]

The Williamsburg Area ARC ran two K3s on a pair of 40, 20, 10 meter fan-dipoles 
at about 50-60 feet and mostly on same band.  We had no noticeable interference 
either way at 100 watts.  We used only the filtering built in the radio.  CW 
radio used a 200 hertz filter and the phone station used the 2.8 and DSP.

On 80 meters the phone station used 1/4 wave wire vertical (top at around 80 
ft)  with two 1/4 wave elevated radials and CW used a full wave horizontal loop 
at about 40 ft.  Again no noticeable interference on same band.

K3 RULES!

...bill nr4c

Sent from my Verizon Wireless 4G LTE DROID

Scotty Long  wrote:

>ARRL Field Day...
>Well I had a good time talking with friends and family that was about it. The 
>heat on Saturday here in Nebraska was terrible the measured temp inside my 
>tent was 104+ F with 90+++% humidity. But hey that's what is says in the 
>course description "Other than favorable conditions". I had the Elecraft K1 
>all set up and tried to call Polar Bear Kens furry hide WA8REI on 20m CW as he 
>finished a QSO with no joy Gr.  I was all set to run then the 
>front end of K1 was overloaded by our 20m phone station running a beam at 
>about 40 feet. Every time they called CQ field day I just could not do 
>anything.  I switched to my back up rig the Yaesu FT817... The AGC cut the 
>audio on this rig as well but at least I was able to do some quick search and 
>pounce work between the phone stations transmissions.  I think I worked 17 
>total contacts Wow... Just for information the phone ssb station was running a 
>Drake TR7 100+ watts into a 20m beam 40ft. I had the K1 or FT817 into a 
>Buddipole 
 v
> ertical antenna at close to maximum separation ARRL field day rules... all 
> station properly grounded... I shut down late afternoon and departed the area 
> for cold air and drink... P.S. we all run band pass filters but we were on 
> the same band... 
>73/Scotty/NU0S/Field Day K0KKV/Nebraska
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[Elecraft] ARRL Field Day

[Scotty Long]

ARRL Field Day...
Well I had a good time talking with friends and family that was about it. The 
heat on Saturday here in Nebraska was terrible the measured temp inside my tent 
was 104+ F with 90+++% humidity. But hey that's what is says in the course 
description "Other than favorable conditions". I had the Elecraft K1 all set up 
and tried to call Polar Bear Kens furry hide WA8REI on 20m CW as he finished a 
QSO with no joy Gr.  I was all set to run then the front end of K1 
was overloaded by our 20m phone station running a beam at about 40 feet. Every 
time they called CQ field day I just could not do anything.  I switched to my 
back up rig the Yaesu FT817... The AGC cut the audio on this rig as well but at 
least I was able to do some quick search and pounce work between the phone 
stations transmissions.  I think I worked 17 total contacts Wow... Just for 
information the phone ssb station was running a Drake TR7 100+ watts into a 20m 
beam 40ft. I had the K1 or FT817 into a Buddipole v
 ertical antenna at close to maximum separation ARRL field day rules... all 
station properly grounded... I shut down late afternoon and departed the area 
for cold air and drink... P.S. we all run band pass filters but we were on the 
same band... 
73/Scotty/NU0S/Field Day K0KKV/Nebraska 
  
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Re: [Elecraft] Elecraft and Ten Tec

[Jim Brown]

On 6/24/2013 8:18 AM, Richard Fjeld wrote:

As for the radio, I can't imagine anything better that my ears would notice. (I 
use a CM500 headset/boom mike.)  I bought the 8-pole filters to give it the 
steepest skirts.  I bought a few extras, but I did not stuff it full.  I find 
the K3 QSK is excellent if you are wondering.  Pretty much, everything about CW 
is user tailored.  The CWT feature is great.


Agreed on all counts.


I find operating conveniences are excellent. The chassis size has been fine for 
me.


Yes


As for the menu question, it gives me no trouble, and using a menu is seldom 
needed. IMHO, the menu system is easy to use, and affords versatility to the 
radio.


Yes. The menu system is needed ONLY for changing the setup of the radio. 
Everything you need on a day to day basis is on the front panel.  There 
are two levels of menus. The top level, the simplest, does adjustments 
like VOX level.  We used two K3s on FD, and as far as I know, never 
touched the menus while putting 1,002 QSOs in the log running QRP.



Your decision should include the future possibility of adding a P3 pan adapter. 
 It adds flexibility and control to operating. Even if you only ragchew, it 
will show interference on the band and is a valuable aid for trouble shooting.


Yes, quite nice. But you can make that decision later -- just call up 
and order it.



I recommend you consider your vision if your plans are to build a kit.


The K3 series of kits are essentially "screw together" kits of 
pre-tested boards and chassis parts, mostly with 4-40 screws.  The only 
tricky part with respect to vision is mating the front panel board to 
the main board at the end of the process.  My 71-year old eyes aren't 
great, but I've done two of them with no difficulty.


A thought with respect to filters.  The filters are ROOFING filters, not 
IF filters.  All the IF filtering that in the old days were done with 
crystal filters are done in DSP in the K3. The primary function of a 
roofing filter is to protect the DSP from getting blown away by VERY 
strong signals. The stock K3 comes with a 2.7 kHz 5-pole roofing filter 
that is also used for TX.


I suggest that you buy the K3 without an additional filter and use it 
for a while before spending the bucks on another filter. You are 
unlikely to need it for ragchewing or DXing, and even for casual 
contesting.  And it is VERY easy to add later if you should decide that 
you need it.


I've long been a Ten Tec fan, have owned two of their transceivers, and 
still own four of their power amps. I know nothing about the Eagle, but 
the differences between the two companies are night and day. Both are 
good US companies, but Elecraft is FAR more in touch with their 
customers, who are, in general, a lot smarter and far more demanding.   
That has a lot to do why their products are so "right" for hams.


73, Jim K9YC
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[Elecraft] KX3 internal batt. questions?

[ac5p]

Dont have a KX3 (yet) but curious about the points below if someone can 
enlighten me?
 
Is access to terminals and exchange of  int. battery for KX3 as inconvenient as 
it is for the K2?  
Is there a series diode on the ext. power connector that will cause forward 
bias voltage drop if powered by external battery?
 
thanks,
Mike/ac5p
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Re: [Elecraft] My first Field Day...Wow... what a rush!

[Jim Miller]

Coming soon - Catch "13 Colonies" the week of July 4th, 13 colony stations
plus one extra station - get the certificate.  Then work "Route 66 On The
Air" September 7 - 15 all modes and bands, 5 "endorsements", work 'em all
for a clean sweep, get the certificate.  See W6P on QRZ for details and
links.  We worked 4825 contacts from the St Louis area last year and the
event made over 36000 contacts overall.  9 days, lots of fun.

73, Jim KG0KP - W6P

-Original Message-
From: elecraft-boun...@mailman.qth.net
[mailto:elecraft-boun...@mailman.qth.net] On Behalf Of Bill W4ZV
Sent: Monday, June 24, 2013 4:58 AM
To: elecraft@mailman.qth.net
Subject: Re: [Elecraft] My first Field Day...Wow... what a rush!

Rick Prather-2 wrote
> Your post makes me wish I didn't have to wait a year to get out and do 
> it again!

You don't need to wait.  Discover Summits On The Air (SOTA) and you can do
it any time you like!

http://www.sota.org.uk/

73,  Bill  W4ZV




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Re: [Elecraft] My first Field Day...Wow... what a rush!

[Glen Johnstone]

...and let's not forget that excellent 6 meter opening Sunday morning.  Worked 
everything from SFL to NTX including Guadeloupe from EPA with the KX3!

Glen, NK1N
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Re: [Elecraft] Elecraft and Ten Tec

[W4SK]

Anyone else noticed that TenTec has ceased advertising in QST?

-W4SK


-Original Message-
From: elecraft-boun...@mailman.qth.net
[mailto:elecraft-boun...@mailman.qth.net] On Behalf Of Richard Fjeld
Sent: Monday, June 24, 2013 10:18 AM
To: Rip R; elecraft@mailman.qth.net
Subject: Re: [Elecraft] Elecraft and Ten Tec

Roger,

I went through the same decision process as you a few years ago.  I had a
Ten-Tec at the time. I bought my K3 kit sight unseen.

As for the radio, I can't imagine anything better that my ears would notice.
(I use a CM500 headset/boom mike.)  I bought the 8-pole filters to give it
the steepest skirts.  I bought a few extras, but I did not stuff it full.  I
find the K3 QSK is excellent if you are wondering.  Pretty much, everything
about CW is user tailored.  The CWT feature is great. 

I find operating conveniences are excellent. The chassis size has been fine
for me.

As for the menu question, it gives me no trouble, and using a menu is seldom
needed. IMHO, the menu system is easy to use, and affords versatility to the
radio.

Your decision should include the future possibility of adding a P3 pan
adapter.  It adds flexibility and control to operating. Even if you only
ragchew, it will show interference on the band and is a valuable aid for
trouble shooting. 

All things are relative. I recommend you consider your vision if your plans
are to build a kit.

Dick, n0ce

  - Original Message -
  From: Rip R
  To: elecraft@mailman.qth.net
  Sent: Saturday, June 22, 2013 6:30 PM
  Subject: [Elecraft] Elecraft and Ten Tec


  It is time for a new rig; actually my first "new" rig in many years since
I
  typically buy a used rig from someone.
  I own both Elecraft and Ten Tec; K-1 and Omni 6 among others. The choice I
  am working on now is that of
  either the K-3 or the Eagle. The K-3 with one filter for CW will be more
  expensive than the Eagle with one filter (not by much)
  and of course the Eagle is not a kit. I operate mostly CW for rag chew,
  occasional contest, and DX. I do not
  think that I need all the options shown on the Elecraft website order
form.
  I have never seen a K-3 up close,
  but I am concerned about the menu that some say takes a lot of getting
used
  to. So several questions: is the menu
  concern not really an issue (?) or is it ; do I need anything else in the
  way of options (I have a good ATU) (?); and does
  the physical size of the control face pose a problem in your opinion.
  Please feel free to reply directly offline since
  I am sure the list has heard these questions many times. I would like to
  hear from you. 73s Roger  W7RIP
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Re: [Elecraft] Elecraft and Ten Tec

[Richard Fjeld]

Roger,

I went through the same decision process as you a few years ago.  I had a 
Ten-Tec at the time. I bought my K3 kit sight unseen.

As for the radio, I can't imagine anything better that my ears would notice. (I 
use a CM500 headset/boom mike.)  I bought the 8-pole filters to give it the 
steepest skirts.  I bought a few extras, but I did not stuff it full.  I find 
the K3 QSK is excellent if you are wondering.  Pretty much, everything about CW 
is user tailored.  The CWT feature is great. 

I find operating conveniences are excellent. The chassis size has been fine for 
me.

As for the menu question, it gives me no trouble, and using a menu is seldom 
needed. IMHO, the menu system is easy to use, and affords versatility to the 
radio.

Your decision should include the future possibility of adding a P3 pan adapter. 
 It adds flexibility and control to operating. Even if you only ragchew, it 
will show interference on the band and is a valuable aid for trouble shooting. 

All things are relative. I recommend you consider your vision if your plans are 
to build a kit.

Dick, n0ce

  - Original Message - 
  From: Rip R 
  To: elecraft@mailman.qth.net 
  Sent: Saturday, June 22, 2013 6:30 PM
  Subject: [Elecraft] Elecraft and Ten Tec


  It is time for a new rig; actually my first "new" rig in many years since I
  typically buy a used rig from someone.
  I own both Elecraft and Ten Tec; K-1 and Omni 6 among others. The choice I
  am working on now is that of
  either the K-3 or the Eagle. The K-3 with one filter for CW will be more
  expensive than the Eagle with one filter (not by much)
  and of course the Eagle is not a kit. I operate mostly CW for rag chew,
  occasional contest, and DX. I do not
  think that I need all the options shown on the Elecraft website order form.
  I have never seen a K-3 up close,
  but I am concerned about the menu that some say takes a lot of getting used
  to. So several questions: is the menu
  concern not really an issue (?) or is it ; do I need anything else in the
  way of options (I have a good ATU) (?); and does
  the physical size of the control face pose a problem in your opinion.
  Please feel free to reply directly offline since
  I am sure the list has heard these questions many times. I would like to
  hear from you. 73s Roger  W7RIP
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Re: [Elecraft] RS-232 over WiFi

[David Christ]

I don't have specific experience with Lantronix wireless units, but before 
retiring I was using tons of Lantronix terminal servers in mission critical 
zero down time applications.  They never let me down.  Top notch stuff.  
Probably not the cheapest but the units I used were highly reliable.

I have no financial interests in Lantronix.

David K0LUM


On Jun 24, 2013, at 9:53 AM,  wrote:

> I used B&B's ES1N.  Be careful with most of the Serial-WiFi adapters.  Their 
> packet size may be VERY small, so there is a lot of overhead and there may be 
> stuttering using Terminal Mode with the utility.  The data goes through, no 
> problem, but the packet transfer timing is up to the adapter.
> 
> Lantronix products are fine too.  I know a couple of the US leads, and they 
> used some type of adaptive algorithm to differentiate between bursty and 
> streaming data on the fly.
> 
> 73,
> Matt Zilmer, W6NIA
> 
> 
> 
> -Original Message-
> From: elecraft-boun...@mailman.qth.net 
> [mailto:elecraft-boun...@mailman.qth.net] On Behalf Of Poul Erik Karlshøj 
> (PKA)
> Sent: Monday, June 24, 2013 7:40 AM
> To: elecraft@mailman.qth.net
> Subject: [Elecraft] RS-232 over WiFi
> 
> I am considering to place the KAT-500 outdoor near the antenna like Knut 
> AB2TC has done (and reported to this group).
> Having looked on the internet for RS-232 to WiFi adapters I can find them in 
> the price range from as low as 40 USD to as much as 350 USD.
> I wasn't aware of the variety!
> I wonder if someone in this group has any experience (good or bad) with 
> RS-232 to WiFi units from:
> USConverters
> Nordfield
> USBGear
> ATC
> Lantronix
> Moxa
> Digi
> USR IOT
> 
> 73 de OZ4UN
> Poul-Erik
> 

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[Elecraft] RS-232 over WiFi

[PKA]

I am considering to place the KAT-500 outdoor near the antenna like Knut AB2TC 
has done (and reported to this group).
Having looked on the internet for RS-232 to WiFi adapters I can find them in 
the price range from as low as 40 USD to as much as 350 USD.
I wasn't aware of the variety!
I wonder if someone in this group has any experience (good or bad) with RS-232 
to WiFi units from:
USConverters
Nordfield
USBGear
ATC
Lantronix
Moxa
Digi
USR IOT

73 de OZ4UN
Poul-Erik
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Re: [Elecraft] KPA500

[Irwin Darack]

I would be interested if Elecraft has any recommendations on their
experience. I have used the KPA500 in one RTTY Contest at around 350w. When
in a Run Mode (CQ'ing) the amp heats up pretty fast and the fan runs at a
high speed continuously.

Thanks, Irwin KD3TB

On Sunday, June 23, 2013, wrote:

> On Sun, 23 Jun 2013 11:33:53 +0200, Arie Kleingeld PA3A wrote:
>
> > Running 330W output in RTTY, 50% duty cycle.
> > SWR is OK: 1 : 1.1 or so.
> > Ambiant temp = 25C
> >
> > Fan runs at speed 4, occasionally 5
> > PA TMP hovers between 65 and 70 C
>
> I'm guessing would be fairly normal.  I sure wouldn't run it that heavy on
> a 50%
> duty-cycle operation (even if the factory says you can).  I just don't like
> running things hot.  Mine hits full 747 turbine mode pretty easily.
>
> Gary
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Re: [Elecraft] RS-232 over WiFi

[mzilmer]

I used B&B's ES1N.  Be careful with most of the Serial-WiFi adapters.  Their 
packet size may be VERY small, so there is a lot of overhead and there may be 
stuttering using Terminal Mode with the utility.  The data goes through, no 
problem, but the packet transfer timing is up to the adapter.

Lantronix products are fine too.  I know a couple of the US leads, and they 
used some type of adaptive algorithm to differentiate between bursty and 
streaming data on the fly.

73,
Matt Zilmer, W6NIA



-Original Message-
From: elecraft-boun...@mailman.qth.net 
[mailto:elecraft-boun...@mailman.qth.net] On Behalf Of Poul Erik Karlshøj (PKA)
Sent: Monday, June 24, 2013 7:40 AM
To: elecraft@mailman.qth.net
Subject: [Elecraft] RS-232 over WiFi

I am considering to place the KAT-500 outdoor near the antenna like Knut AB2TC 
has done (and reported to this group).
Having looked on the internet for RS-232 to WiFi adapters I can find them in 
the price range from as low as 40 USD to as much as 350 USD.
I wasn't aware of the variety!
I wonder if someone in this group has any experience (good or bad) with RS-232 
to WiFi units from:
USConverters
Nordfield
USBGear
ATC
Lantronix
Moxa
Digi
USR IOT

73 de OZ4UN
Poul-Erik
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Re: [Elecraft] KPA500

[Fred Smith]

Oh yes and I worked about all of them with my all Elecraft gear 8>). Wish
all DXpedition's use K3's/KPA500's at least would have a lot more confirmed
here for sure.


73,
Fred/N0AZZ
K3 Ser # 6730--KX3 # 2573--K2/100 # 6470-KAT100
P3/SVGA--KPA500--KAT500--W2



-Original Message-
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[mailto:elecraft-boun...@mailman.qth.net] On Behalf Of Gregg W6IZT
Sent: Monday, June 24, 2013 9:02 AM
To: 'Arie Kleingeld PA3A'; donehrl...@q.com; elecraft@mailman.qth.net
Subject: Re: [Elecraft] KPA500

We ran 8 KPA500s on Malpelo last year at full rated power with no heat
related issues.

Gregg
W6IZT

-Original Message-
From: elecraft-boun...@mailman.qth.net
[mailto:elecraft-boun...@mailman.qth.net] On Behalf Of Arie Kleingeld PA3A
Sent: Monday, June 24, 2013 5:23 AM
To: donehrl...@q.com; elecraft@mailman.qth.net
Subject: Re: [Elecraft] KPA500

Don,

That sounds interesting!
Could you share those mods? I'm taking the KPA500 on a DXpedition to hot
Africa in September and proper cooling will be an issue then.

Arie PA3A


Op 23-6-2013 19:11, donehrl...@q.com schreef:
> Sounds about right to me.  It varies a lot with the band in use .. 
> mine runs hotter on higher frequency bands.  I installed (reversible) 
> modifications in my KPA500 to improve cooling just to keep the fan 
> noise down.
>
> Don K7FJ
>

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Re: [Elecraft] KPA500

[Gregg W6IZT]

We ran 8 KPA500s on Malpelo last year at full rated power with no heat
related issues.

Gregg
W6IZT

-Original Message-
From: elecraft-boun...@mailman.qth.net
[mailto:elecraft-boun...@mailman.qth.net] On Behalf Of Arie Kleingeld PA3A
Sent: Monday, June 24, 2013 5:23 AM
To: donehrl...@q.com; elecraft@mailman.qth.net
Subject: Re: [Elecraft] KPA500

Don,

That sounds interesting!
Could you share those mods? I'm taking the KPA500 on a DXpedition to hot
Africa in September and proper cooling will be an issue then.

Arie PA3A


Op 23-6-2013 19:11, donehrl...@q.com schreef:
> Sounds about right to me.  It varies a lot with the band in use .. 
> mine runs hotter on higher frequency bands.  I installed (reversible) 
> modifications in my KPA500 to improve cooling just to keep the fan 
> noise down.
>
> Don K7FJ
>

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[Elecraft] P3 Strange behavior during sailboat Field Day

[Robert Sands]

Awoke at 5 AM to make coffee and begin my final fun for Feild Day Sunday
morning. Cool and damp in boat saloon. Turned on K3/P3 and noticed change
in screen. P3 showed, for the first time, my signal on transmit but nothing
on receive. Over the next 20 minutes this changed back to normal. It was
nice to see my own signal. Also the "green passband" was missing. It is
fine now. Cold? Dampness? Can I reproduce seeing my own signal without
putting the P3 on ice?.

K3 worked great. Got many comments like "strongest signal on band" with 100
watts and 2 el vertical beams on 15 and 20 over saltwater.700 contacts and
7 hours of sleep. The K3 processor is the best ever! Set at 20-25 for
contest.
Bob
K7VO
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Re: [Elecraft] OT: 2m beam orientation

[Richard Fjeld]

When I built my tower computer about a decade ago, I phoned in the order to one 
of the familiar parts places.  To verify my credit card info, the guy started 
asking me questions about my personal property, etc.  He knew the type of 
vehicle, year, even the color of it, as well as other information about me. 
That woke me up.

Dick, n0ce

  - Original Message - 
  From: Jeff Herr 
  To: d...@w3fpr.com ; elecraft@mailman.qth.net 
  Sent: Saturday, June 22, 2013 11:24 PM
  Subject: Re: [Elecraft] OT: 2m beam orientation


  you are doing it every day.
  Verisign, the banks, they ARE the "cloud".
  They have all your info .now.



  -Original Message-
  From: elecraft-boun...@mailman.qth.net
  [mailto:elecraft-boun...@mailman.qth.net] On Behalf Of Don Wilhelm
  Sent: Saturday, June 22, 2013 9:11 PM
  To: elecraft@mailman.qth.net
  Subject: Re: [Elecraft] OT: 2m beam orientation

  Phil,

  IMHO, that is a wise decision.  While "the cloud" is supposed to be secure,
  I have my doubts.  The only thing I would consider committing to the cloud
  would possibly be encrypted off-site backup data, but for now, my RAID file
  server serves that purpose quite nicely, although it does not offer me
  off-site backup storage in case of a major disaster.  I can write my backup
  data periodically to DVDs and keep them at a different location should I
  deem that necessary.  I do not have anything that is classified, so am most
  concerned about data recovery in case a disaster totally destroys the drives
  on my file server.

  73,
  Don W3FPR

  On 6/22/2013 11:47 PM, Phil Kane wrote:
  > Our servers are our property and under our control. The cloud is under 
  > who-knows-whose control who-knows-where. We made a conscious decision 
  > that we will not put our sensitive client or company data - some 
  > classified - on such a system. 73 de K2ASP - Phil Kane

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Re: [Elecraft] Failure of RS-232 Comms to K3 - when cold?

[Don Wilhelm]

Roger,

I have never seen a similar failure reported here on this reflector, and 
I recommend that you try the K3 on another serial port (a real RS-232 
port if possible) to determine whether it is a problem in the K3 or a 
problem with the USB to RS-232 adapter in the Navigator.


73,
Don W3FPR

On 6/24/2013 8:29 AM, Roger Dixon wrote:

My set up is using the US-Navigator as a USB to RS232 interface to
communicate with the K3.

I have noticed over the years that I do not always achieve RS232
communication when the K3 is first switched on.  There is normally a delay
from minimal up to a "few minutes".

On two recent occasions I have failed to achieve communication when out
portable.  The only difference here is the temperature - much colder!

Has anyone else noticed similar behaviour?  Currently I do not have another
USB/RS232 convertor so I cannot definitely state whether it is a K3 or a
Navigator "feature".



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Re: [Elecraft] KRC2ACC with K3 and Navigator an P3

[Bruce Beford]

One option for dealing with the different baud rate speeds of the P3 vs. the
KRC2 is a baud rate converter, such as seen here:

http://serialgadget.com/

One could also roll one's own, with the appropriate skills.

Also, if you are going to monitor the remote system via webcam, proper
antenna switching could be indicated using LEDs driven by the outputs of the
KRC2, rather than the audio output of the KRC2ACC. The lights would stay on,
the CW readout is fleeting...

GL,
Bruce
N1RX

> Note that the P3 and the K3 communication wants the RS-232 rate set to 
> 38400 baud - the KRC2 limit is 19200 baud, so that may give some 
> difficulty in the K3 to P3 communications path.  The controller IC in 
> the KRC2 is the limiting factor and significant re-design (different 
> controller) would be required to boost the rate to 38400.




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Re: [Elecraft] Anderson Connector

[Don Wilhelm]

Jack,

The most common cause for that condition is that the connector blades 
have not been inserted into the APP body far enough.
Look at the end of the connector assembly - if you can see the tip of 
the spring finger under the contact blade, then the blade has not been 
fully seated - give it a push with a small screwdriver and it should 
snap into place.


A properly constructed APP connector takes about 10 pounds of force to 
remove it.


73,
Don W3FPR

On 6/24/2013 8:26 AM, G8DX wrote:

Hi

Just finished building the basic K3 (sub rx and 100w PA awaiting installation).

Total build time was about 10 leisurely hours spread over a week. Throughout 
the entire build I have only found one small issue which I find remarkable! 
Hats off to Elecraft.

Anyway, my issue is the Anderson power connector doesn't firmly latch onto the 
connector on the rig. It fits on and powers the rig but pulls off very easily. 
Have I installed it incorrectly maybe?




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Re: [Elecraft] KRC2ACC with K3 and Navigator an P3

[Brian F. Wruble]

Thanks again for your excellent and comprehensive response.

Brian



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On Mon, Jun 24, 2013 at 8:36 AM, Don Wilhelm  wrote:

> Brian,
>
> Yes, the Y-cable supplied by Elecraft will work.  The KPAK3AUX cable set
> contains that Y-cable.  They are also available from other sources with all
> 15 pins wired straight through - the more commonly available VGA Y-cables
> will NOT work.
> I think the instructions for the KPAK3ACC reveal a lot of information
> about that cable set.  See http://www.elecraft.com/**
> manual/E740160%20KPAK3AUX%**20Cable%20Set%20Instructions%**20Rev1c.pdf
>
> I have not used the Navigator, but from my perusal of the webpage, it
> connects only to the ACC connector, but if it lives up to its advertizing,
> it should co-exist with the KRC2 on the ACC connector (using the Y-cable).
>
> The P3 uses the RS-232 connection, and but not the ACC connector, so no
> conflict there.
> I can't answer for any potential conflicts between RemoteRig and the
> Navigator.
>
> Changing from KRC2ACC to KRC2 firmware will modify the behavior of the
> buttons on the KRC2, and there will be no audible responses from the KRC2.
>  Whether that is suitable for your proposed operation is your decision -
> each operators goals are different.
>
> Note that the P3 and the K3 communication wants the RS-232 rate set to
> 38400 baud - the KRC2 limit is 19200 baud, so that may give some difficulty
> in the K3 to P3 communications path.  The controller IC in the KRC2 is the
> limiting factor and significant re-design (different controller) would be
> required to boost the rate to 38400.
>
> 73,
> Don W3FPR
>
>
>
>
> On 6/24/2013 7:45 AM, Brian F. Wruble wrote:
>
>> Don, does the "Y" connector Elecraft sells work for this?  I have on order
>> a KAT500 and a KPA500.  I can't quite figure out what the KPAK3AUX does,
>> but will that address the problem?
>>
>> Here is the long-term plan.  I want to operate this station (in Maryland)
>> remotely from our home in Key West.  I will get a K3/0  when the mini
>> comes
>> out, and the RemoteRig gear.  I will not need the P3 hooked up for that,
>> so
>> maybe that frees up the needed pathway.  But while I am in MD, I do need
>> the P3.  I want the KRC2 only for antenna switching.  However, the audible
>> feedback was the way I was going to be sure the antennas actually switched
>> --- by monitoring the station remotely (including the readout of the
>> rotor)
>> using a webcam and mike.  .  If that is the only reason to keep a PC
>> running, I can give that up.  Of course, I can probably give up the
>> Navigator (only when operating remotely) if I am getting audio in/out
>> using
>> RemoteRig.
>>
>> So my questions are:
>>
>> Other than the audible cues, what do I give up by loading the KRC2
>> firmware
>> vice the KRCACC firmware?  I really only must have antenna switching.
>>
>> Will the Y cable from Elecraft work with a KRC2 (not ACC) and a P3 and a
>> Navigator?
>>
>> What does the KPAK3AUX do for my eventual station (full remotely
>> controlled
>> K-Line)?  Does the Y cable that comes with that fit my needs?
>>
>> Thanks so much for your help.
>>
>> 73 de Brian W3BW
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>> *Brian F. Wruble, C.F.A.
>>
>> *70 is the new 40.*
>> *
>> Mail: 1107 Key Plaza, PMB 447 Key West, FL 33040-4077
>> Summers: P.O.Box 57, 7400 Augustine Herman Highway, Georgetown, MD 21930
>> eFax  305.768.0278
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>> On Mon, Jun 24, 2013 at 12:01 AM, Don Wilhelm 
>> wrote:
>>
>>  Brian,
>>>
>>> The recommended K3 to KRC2 communication is to use the AUXBUS signalling
>>> for band signalling.  The AUXBUS signal is on pin 2 of the K3 ACC
>>> connector
>>> with the return path at pin 5 (ground).  You can get a "Y" connector to
>>> bring the ACC signals out to both the Navigator and the KRC2ACC.  Make
>>> certain the "Y" cable has all pins connected and no pins connected
>>> together
>>> - a VGA "Y" cable will NOT work.
>>>
>>> Please not that the solution above will only provide band selection in
>>> the
>>> KRC2ACC - other functions will not work.
>>>
>>> One cannot use a "Y" connector on the RS-232 signals unless one device
>>> only listens to the RS-232 data traffic.  Both the P3 and the KRC2ACC
>>> have
>>> drivers on the RS-232 connection and that will cause much chaos and
>>> failure
>>> of communications for both the KRC2ACC and the P3.
>>>
>>> In other words, I do not have a workable solution for you.  Perhaps Jack
>>> Brindle can make some suggestions, but from my knowledge of the RS-232
>>> signalling, they will not work together.
>>>
>>> My suggestion is to load the KRC2 firmware and forget about the ACC
>>> option, then you can use the KRC2 for control of your antenna rel

Re: [Elecraft] KRC2ACC with K3 and Navigator an P3

[Don Wilhelm]

Brian,

Yes, the Y-cable supplied by Elecraft will work.  The KPAK3AUX cable set 
contains that Y-cable.  They are also available from other sources with 
all 15 pins wired straight through - the more commonly available VGA 
Y-cables will NOT work.
I think the instructions for the KPAK3ACC reveal a lot of information 
about that cable set.  See 
http://www.elecraft.com/manual/E740160%20KPAK3AUX%20Cable%20Set%20Instructions%20Rev1c.pdf


I have not used the Navigator, but from my perusal of the webpage, it 
connects only to the ACC connector, but if it lives up to its 
advertizing, it should co-exist with the KRC2 on the ACC connector 
(using the Y-cable).


The P3 uses the RS-232 connection, and but not the ACC connector, so no 
conflict there.
I can't answer for any potential conflicts between RemoteRig and the 
Navigator.


Changing from KRC2ACC to KRC2 firmware will modify the behavior of the 
buttons on the KRC2, and there will be no audible responses from the 
KRC2.  Whether that is suitable for your proposed operation is your 
decision - each operators goals are different.


Note that the P3 and the K3 communication wants the RS-232 rate set to 
38400 baud - the KRC2 limit is 19200 baud, so that may give some 
difficulty in the K3 to P3 communications path.  The controller IC in 
the KRC2 is the limiting factor and significant re-design (different 
controller) would be required to boost the rate to 38400.


73,
Don W3FPR



On 6/24/2013 7:45 AM, Brian F. Wruble wrote:

Don, does the "Y" connector Elecraft sells work for this?  I have on order
a KAT500 and a KPA500.  I can't quite figure out what the KPAK3AUX does,
but will that address the problem?

Here is the long-term plan.  I want to operate this station (in Maryland)
remotely from our home in Key West.  I will get a K3/0  when the mini comes
out, and the RemoteRig gear.  I will not need the P3 hooked up for that, so
maybe that frees up the needed pathway.  But while I am in MD, I do need
the P3.  I want the KRC2 only for antenna switching.  However, the audible
feedback was the way I was going to be sure the antennas actually switched
--- by monitoring the station remotely (including the readout of the rotor)
using a webcam and mike.  .  If that is the only reason to keep a PC
running, I can give that up.  Of course, I can probably give up the
Navigator (only when operating remotely) if I am getting audio in/out using
RemoteRig.

So my questions are:

Other than the audible cues, what do I give up by loading the KRC2 firmware
vice the KRCACC firmware?  I really only must have antenna switching.

Will the Y cable from Elecraft work with a KRC2 (not ACC) and a P3 and a
Navigator?

What does the KPAK3AUX do for my eventual station (full remotely controlled
K-Line)?  Does the Y cable that comes with that fit my needs?

Thanks so much for your help.

73 de Brian W3BW










*Brian F. Wruble, C.F.A.

*70 is the new 40.*
*
Mail: 1107 Key Plaza, PMB 447 Key West, FL 33040-4077
Summers: P.O.Box 57, 7400 Augustine Herman Highway, Georgetown, MD 21930
eFax  305.768.0278







On Mon, Jun 24, 2013 at 12:01 AM, Don Wilhelm  wrote:


Brian,

The recommended K3 to KRC2 communication is to use the AUXBUS signalling
for band signalling.  The AUXBUS signal is on pin 2 of the K3 ACC connector
with the return path at pin 5 (ground).  You can get a "Y" connector to
bring the ACC signals out to both the Navigator and the KRC2ACC.  Make
certain the "Y" cable has all pins connected and no pins connected together
- a VGA "Y" cable will NOT work.

Please not that the solution above will only provide band selection in the
KRC2ACC - other functions will not work.

One cannot use a "Y" connector on the RS-232 signals unless one device
only listens to the RS-232 data traffic.  Both the P3 and the KRC2ACC have
drivers on the RS-232 connection and that will cause much chaos and failure
of communications for both the KRC2ACC and the P3.

In other words, I do not have a workable solution for you.  Perhaps Jack
Brindle can make some suggestions, but from my knowledge of the RS-232
signalling, they will not work together.

My suggestion is to load the KRC2 firmware and forget about the ACC
option, then you can use the KRC2 for control of your antenna relays with
the connection to the K3 ACC connector (with the "Y" cable).

73,
Don W3FPR


On 6/23/2013 4:44 PM, Brian F. Wruble wrote:


Hi all,

OK, I have built my KRC2ACC, and it passes all the tests. I have built the
special cable for use with my K3.  Now  am stumped again, so I am hoping
someone can "baby-talk" me through this.

I use a Navigator interface for digital modes.  That occupies the ACC jack
of the K3.  I use a P3 Panadaptor, and that occupies the serial (RS232)
port of the K3.  The Navigator uses the RS232 port of the P3.  There is no
place left to connect the KRC2ACC.

The manual makes reference to "daisy-chaining", but always in connection
with the K2, not the K3.  So I am stuck again.

Where do I plug it in, a

[Elecraft] Failure of RS-232 Comms to K3 - when cold?

[Roger Dixon]

My set up is using the US-Navigator as a USB to RS232 interface to
communicate with the K3.

I have noticed over the years that I do not always achieve RS232
communication when the K3 is first switched on.  There is normally a delay
from minimal up to a "few minutes".

On two recent occasions I have failed to achieve communication when out
portable.  The only difference here is the temperature - much colder!

Has anyone else noticed similar behaviour?  Currently I do not have another
USB/RS232 convertor so I cannot definitely state whether it is a K3 or a
Navigator "feature".

Roger - G4BVY 

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[Elecraft] Anderson Connector

[G8DX]

Hi

Just finished building the basic K3 (sub rx and 100w PA awaiting installation). 

Total build time was about 10 leisurely hours spread over a week. Throughout 
the entire build I have only found one small issue which I find remarkable! 
Hats off to Elecraft.

Anyway, my issue is the Anderson power connector doesn't firmly latch onto the 
connector on the rig. It fits on and powers the rig but pulls off very easily. 
Have I installed it incorrectly maybe?


Tnx

Jack


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Re: [Elecraft] K1 Relays Not Working

[Richard Crispi]

Hi Don,
Thanks for your reply.  It is much appreciated.  The problem was a couple
of unsoldered points.  My tired old eyes didn't see them at 2am when I sent
the call for help out.  After several hours sleep and a good breakfast the
bad connections appeared like magic HI HI!  Finished the K1 yesterday
afternoon and it seems to be working well.  Now on to building the antenna
tuner.
Thanks to all for your help.  You guys are great.
73,
Rich K1YRW


On Mon, Jun 24, 2013 at 12:14 AM, Don Wilhelm  wrote:

> Rich,
>
> I assume this is a 2 band filter board.
>
> Either the KFL1-2 board firmware (U1) is not working, or the 6R/AUX signal
> is not getting the the filter board U1 pin 13, or there is a problem with
> the relay switching paths.
>
> First check the resistance across each relay coil (pins 1 and 10) of each
> relay.  Each relay should be about the same.
> Then check the soldering on the header for RF Board J7 - re-flow the
> solder with a hot (750 degF) iron.
> Be certain the filter board R1 is 100 ohms and well soldered.
>
> 73,
> Don W3FPR
>
>
> On 6/22/2013 7:40 AM, Richard Crispi wrote:
>
>> Hi,
>> I'm in the process of building K1 #3224 and all was going well until this
>> evening.  I'm at the point in Chap. 7 Alignment and Test, Part 1
>> "Band-Pass
>> Filter Alignment" (pg. 40).  I was able to align B1 (40 meters) but when I
>> attempted to start B2 (30 meters) I realized that the relays were not
>> switching and I could still hear the 40 meter signals although the
>> frequency display showed the 30 meter frequency.  Everything else up to
>> this point seems to be working fine but no relays are switching; not on
>> power up or when I try to change bands.
>>
>>
>
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Re: [Elecraft] KRC2ACC with K3 and Navigator an P3

[Brian F. Wruble]

Don, does the "Y" connector Elecraft sells work for this?  I have on order
a KAT500 and a KPA500.  I can't quite figure out what the KPAK3AUX does,
but will that address the problem?

Here is the long-term plan.  I want to operate this station (in Maryland)
remotely from our home in Key West.  I will get a K3/0  when the mini comes
out, and the RemoteRig gear.  I will not need the P3 hooked up for that, so
maybe that frees up the needed pathway.  But while I am in MD, I do need
the P3.  I want the KRC2 only for antenna switching.  However, the audible
feedback was the way I was going to be sure the antennas actually switched
--- by monitoring the station remotely (including the readout of the rotor)
using a webcam and mike.  .  If that is the only reason to keep a PC
running, I can give that up.  Of course, I can probably give up the
Navigator (only when operating remotely) if I am getting audio in/out using
RemoteRig.

So my questions are:

Other than the audible cues, what do I give up by loading the KRC2 firmware
vice the KRCACC firmware?  I really only must have antenna switching.

Will the Y cable from Elecraft work with a KRC2 (not ACC) and a P3 and a
Navigator?

What does the KPAK3AUX do for my eventual station (full remotely controlled
K-Line)?  Does the Y cable that comes with that fit my needs?

Thanks so much for your help.

73 de Brian W3BW










*Brian F. Wruble, C.F.A.

*70 is the new 40.*
*
Mail: 1107 Key Plaza, PMB 447 Key West, FL 33040-4077
Summers: P.O.Box 57, 7400 Augustine Herman Highway, Georgetown, MD 21930
eFax  305.768.0278







On Mon, Jun 24, 2013 at 12:01 AM, Don Wilhelm  wrote:

> Brian,
>
> The recommended K3 to KRC2 communication is to use the AUXBUS signalling
> for band signalling.  The AUXBUS signal is on pin 2 of the K3 ACC connector
> with the return path at pin 5 (ground).  You can get a "Y" connector to
> bring the ACC signals out to both the Navigator and the KRC2ACC.  Make
> certain the "Y" cable has all pins connected and no pins connected together
> - a VGA "Y" cable will NOT work.
>
> Please not that the solution above will only provide band selection in the
> KRC2ACC - other functions will not work.
>
> One cannot use a "Y" connector on the RS-232 signals unless one device
> only listens to the RS-232 data traffic.  Both the P3 and the KRC2ACC have
> drivers on the RS-232 connection and that will cause much chaos and failure
> of communications for both the KRC2ACC and the P3.
>
> In other words, I do not have a workable solution for you.  Perhaps Jack
> Brindle can make some suggestions, but from my knowledge of the RS-232
> signalling, they will not work together.
>
> My suggestion is to load the KRC2 firmware and forget about the ACC
> option, then you can use the KRC2 for control of your antenna relays with
> the connection to the K3 ACC connector (with the "Y" cable).
>
> 73,
> Don W3FPR
>
>
> On 6/23/2013 4:44 PM, Brian F. Wruble wrote:
>
>> Hi all,
>>
>> OK, I have built my KRC2ACC, and it passes all the tests. I have built the
>> special cable for use with my K3.  Now  am stumped again, so I am hoping
>> someone can "baby-talk" me through this.
>>
>> I use a Navigator interface for digital modes.  That occupies the ACC jack
>> of the K3.  I use a P3 Panadaptor, and that occupies the serial (RS232)
>> port of the K3.  The Navigator uses the RS232 port of the P3.  There is no
>> place left to connect the KRC2ACC.
>>
>> The manual makes reference to "daisy-chaining", but always in connection
>> with the K2, not the K3.  So I am stuck again.
>>
>> Where do I plug it in, and what jumpers do I set?
>>
>> Thanks in advance,
>>
>> Brian W3BW
>>
>>
>>
>>
>> *Brian F. Wruble, C.F.A.
>>
>> *70 is the new 40.*
>> *
>> Mail: 1107 Key Plaza, PMB 447 Key West, FL 33040-4077
>> Summers: P.O.Box 57, 7400 Augustine Herman Highway, Georgetown, MD 21930
>> eFax  305.768.0278
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Re: [Elecraft] P3- Center Freq - a zero

[Bruce Beford]

Jim- a few thoughts on this.

1. You only stated you have power and IF into the P3. You did not mention
whether or not you have the RS232 cable connected between the K3 and the P3.
This is essential for getting the freq info from the K3.

2. In the P3 menu XCVR SEL: is it set to K3?

3. Make sure the K3 RS232 speed is set to 38400 baud.

GL,
Bruce
N1RX

> I received P3 s/n 2716 this past week and have just hooked it up.
> I read the manual several times and have noticed in the photos and in 
> the text that VFO A  frequency should be at the center of the display. 
> It is not, instead  -a zero- is there.
> K3 f/w 4.39 P3 f/w 1.26. I have the IF out of the K3 and IF IN to P3 and 
> 12vdc power. Any help would be appreciated.
> 73,
> Jim AC0E K3/5674
>



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[Elecraft] Test

[Fred Smith]

Test

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Re: [Elecraft] K3 frequency loss

[Kurt Pawlikowski]

Hum...

Maybe Elecraft is encouraging a "frequency diet" a trend for other 
types of "diets" Amateurs might be thinking about... Just think what 
would happen if the frequencies were *reversed*! Now *that* would be a 
*true* conspiracy!~


Regards,

kurtt

Kurt Pawlikowski, AKA WB9FMC
The Pinrod Corporation
ku...@pinrod.com
(773) 284-9500
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On 6/22/2013 16:08, Don Putnick wrote:

I noticed something very suspicious. The older K3 marketing photog shows VCOs 
A/B as 14.195.000/14.200.00 and the newer photog shows 14.175.30/14.180.30. 
Enquiring minds want to know why! Where did the 20 kHz go?

Don NA6Z K3/KPA500/KAT500
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Re: [Elecraft] My first Field Day...Wow... what a rush!

[Bill W4ZV]

Rick Prather-2 wrote
> Your post makes me wish I didn't have to wait a year to get out and do it
> again!

You don't need to wait.  Discover Summits On The Air (SOTA) and you can do
it any time you like!

http://www.sota.org.uk/

73,  Bill  W4ZV




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Re: [Elecraft] KPA500

[Arie Kleingeld PA3A]

Don,

That sounds interesting!
Could you share those mods? I'm taking the KPA500 on a DXpedition to hot 
Africa in September and proper cooling will be an issue then.


Arie PA3A


Op 23-6-2013 19:11, donehrl...@q.com schreef:
Sounds about right to me.  It varies a lot with the band in use .. 
mine runs hotter on higher frequency bands.  I installed (reversible) 
modifications in my KPA500 to improve cooling just to keep the fan 
noise down.


Don K7FJ



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