Re: [Elecraft] KX3-2M module?

2014-04-09 Thread stew...@g3ysx.org.uk
When driving a transverter presumably you will be running at 0dbm rather than 
at 5W. I wonder if the KX3 still experience thermal drift due to PA heating at 
very low power?

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Re: [Elecraft] KX3-2M module?

2014-04-09 Thread Edward R Cole

OK, there has been a lot speculation but nobody has one yet to test.

I both run JT65 on eme and WSPR on VHF and 600 meters, so I am fairly 
experienced in using these modes.  I plan to rigorously test the KX3 
+ 2M for specs and test running these modes with real eme signals.  I 
can run my K3 + 2m transverter (from another mfr) in parallel to 
compare performance receiving signals.  I will test the frequency 
drift transmitting 3w.


I have a EIP-538 mw frequency counter good to 26-GHz which uses an 
internal TCXO or external 10-MHz reference.  I have a Rubidium 
reference oscillator with short-term stability of +/- 5 E-11 (that is 
0.05 or 0.0005 ppm) to use as reference source.  That will 
definitely measure the frequency accuracy and stability of the KX3 + 
2M combination.


I do not have a set up for measuring phase noise, but the parallel 
test described above will compare sensitivity using my K3 with 
TCXO-3/EXREF using an OCXO reference (be my phase noise 
reference).  The OCXO is +/- 5 E-12 with

Phase noise = -86 dBc/Hz, -118 dBc/Hz (100-Hz), -119 dBc/Hz (1KHz).
I will publish my testing results on my website (I'll post the link 
when this is done).
I also operate microwaves up to 10-GHz: currently have 1296-28, 
3400-144, and 10,368-144 MHz transverters.  All operate with an LO 
frequency about 1100-MHz and multiply to the frequency needed to mix 
with the IF radio.


Example: the 10,368 MHz transverter uses an xtal LO = 189.33 MHz 
which is multiplied to 10,224 MHz and mixes with 144-MHz from the IF 
radio.  the stability of the 189.33 MHz xtal oscillator is multiplied 
x54 and added to that of the 144-MHz radio.  It should be obvious 
that the stability of the transverter LO is way more important since 
it gets multiplied.


More and more PLL LO's are being used for this so the resulting LO 
frequency of 10,224 MHz is  +/- 9-Hz.  At worst case this is added 
to the +/- 10-Hz of the KX3+2M to provide a frequency error of up to 
19-Hz.  Wow!


I think folks need to settle down and wait a bit until we can provide 
some independent testing before judging the merits of the KX3+2M.


73, Ed - KL7UW
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Actually, with extended temp compensation applied, the KX3-2M 
module's long-term frequency stability is typically better than +/- 
0.1 ppm (+/- 10 Hz). But it's the short-term excursions within this 
range that would probably not work with JT65. Again, I haven't tried 
it. These excursions are due to the FLL (frequency-locked-loop) 
algorithm, which obtains data from an EEPROM table having increments 
of about 0.1 degree C (after calibration is complete).


73,
Wayne
N6KR


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[Elecraft] KXPA100 et Smarttuner SG230

2014-04-09 Thread Luc Favre

Hello,

My configuration : KX3, KXPA100 (with KXAT100, not used in normal 
operation), coax line, SG230 (Smartuner), doublet.


My question :
In way to tune the Smarttuner, I must send some RF into the Smartuner 
via the coax line. Before the tuning process begins, the SWR in the coax 
line to the Smartuner may be very high. In this case, the KXPA100 goes 
into Fault Condition (Err Ant) ; no RF more, the tuning process stops.


Roundabouts :
1. PA off (via menu), tuning with KX3 barefoot.
2. KXAT100 on, KXAT100 tuning, Smartuner tuning, KXAT100 off.

Doing so (1. or 2 above), I can get the Smartuner tuned, but it's a bit 
cumbersome.


Any idea ?

73
Luc/F6HJO/HB9ABB
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Re: [Elecraft] KXPA100 et Smarttuner SG230

2014-04-09 Thread Mark Forsyth
I have exactly the same setup except that I use an SGC237. Set tune power to
5W and use the tune button on the radio. Works a treat for me.

Cheers,
Mark F...
VK3ZMF / VK3KW

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 boun...@mailman.qth.net] On Behalf Of Luc Favre
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 Subject: [Elecraft] KXPA100 et Smarttuner SG230
 
 Hello,
 
 My configuration : KX3, KXPA100 (with KXAT100, not used in normal
 operation), coax line, SG230 (Smartuner), doublet.
 
 My question :
 In way to tune the Smarttuner, I must send some RF into the Smartuner via
 the coax line. Before the tuning process begins, the SWR in the coax line
to
 the Smartuner may be very high. In this case, the KXPA100 goes into Fault
 Condition (Err Ant) ; no RF more, the tuning process stops.
 
 Roundabouts :
 1. PA off (via menu), tuning with KX3 barefoot.
 2. KXAT100 on, KXAT100 tuning, Smartuner tuning, KXAT100 off.
 
 Doing so (1. or 2 above), I can get the Smartuner tuned, but it's a bit
 cumbersome.
 
 Any idea ?
 
 73
 Luc/F6HJO/HB9ABB
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[Elecraft] OT: Begali Paddles

2014-04-09 Thread Joel Black
When I upgraded to Extra, I bought myself the Begali Adventure Mono to 
go with my KX3. Needless to say, I have not been on *any* Adventures 
with my KX3 - yet. Mostly just taking it with me to work and using it 
during my lunch break.


I like the Begali paddle I have. Currently, I have it in the shack on 
its magnetic base on a piece of steel I took from an old bent up Bencher 
key. Eventually I'd like to put it with my KX3 *only* instead of moving 
it back and forth.


I'm not a *great* CW operator and I'm definitely *not* QRQ. I putter 
around 15 - 17WPM but I like nice CW tools. I'm looking to spend no more 
than $300 and am wondering about the Begali Simplex (which can be had 
for much less than $300). I have also looked at the N3ZN keys and they 
are very nice too. I actually had a ZN6 at one point, but sold it.


Any thoughts?

Please, in the interest of the list, reply directly to my email address.

73,
Joel - W4JBB
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Re: [Elecraft] KXPA100 et Smarttuner SG230

2014-04-09 Thread Mark Forsyth

I think that you may have misunderstood me. Set the menu item TUN PWR to
10W and then you can just press TUNE (hold XMIT) to output 10W to the SGC.
You don't need to set power to 10W - leave it at 100W or whatever you
prefer.

Cheers,
Mark F...
VK3ZMF / VK3KW


 
 OK and thanks a lot. It's work and I already used it. But I'm looking for
not
 setting down the power to 5 W !
 73
 Luc
 
 Le 09/04/2014 11:21, Mark Forsyth a écrit :
  I have exactly the same setup except that I use an SGC237. Set tune
  power to 5W and use the tune button on the radio. Works a treat for me.
 
  Cheers,
  Mark F...
  VK3ZMF / VK3KW
 
 
  Hello,
 
  My configuration : KX3, KXPA100 (with KXAT100, not used in normal
  operation), coax line, SG230 (Smartuner), doublet.
 
  My question :
  In way to tune the Smarttuner, I must send some RF into the Smartuner
  via the coax line. Before the tuning process begins, the SWR in the
  coax line
  to
  the Smartuner may be very high. In this case, the KXPA100 goes into
  Fault Condition (Err Ant) ; no RF more, the tuning process stops.
 
  Roundabouts :
  1. PA off (via menu), tuning with KX3 barefoot.
  2. KXAT100 on, KXAT100 tuning, Smartuner tuning, KXAT100 off.
 
  Doing so (1. or 2 above), I can get the Smartuner tuned, but it's a
  bit cumbersome.
 
  Any idea ?
 
  73
  Luc/F6HJO/HB9ABB

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[Elecraft] K3 TX TEST Mode via Software

2014-04-09 Thread Brian Alsop

I'm using the K3 for measurements and want it to be in the TX TEST mode.

The software uses SWH18.  However, it is a toggle.  So if *hit happens 
and you have to run the data collection software again, it returns the 
K3 to the normal mode.


I've scanned the manual looking for a command which does the same but is 
not a toggle.  NADA.


Any workarounds?

73 de Brian/K3KO



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Re: [Elecraft] Strange RFI question

2014-04-09 Thread Slava Baytalskiy
Hi everyone!
Sorry about the video not showing up.
Not sure why i didn't think of just uploading it to YouTube.
So, here are two links:
This one i took with my iPhone. The audio is very low though - 
http://youtu.be/DOZHHxjDhDI

This one is the original that i took with the screen recorder - 
http://youtu.be/Qhs1G9YS5k0

Please take a peek and see if you could give me some ideas.

As i've said earlier this is very pronounced on 20 meters. The signals in 
question are repeating every 61 kHz throughout the band. So its not just one 
signal. And they don't sound like you normal hum or buzz.

Thanks in advance!
Slava, W2RMS

On Apr 8, 2014, at 9:34 PM, Slava Baytalskiy sla...@nullserv.com wrote:

 Hello everyone!
 I'm not sure if this is the correct forum for this sort of a question but i 
 figured i'd give it a shot.
 I've been going out of my mind with this strange signal pattern i've been 
 seeing on my new panadapter connected to my new K3.
 I first saw it on 20 meters. It seems to be the same signal pattern, spaced 
 evenly, at 61 kHz intervals.
 Something tells me that it could very well be outside of my shack. I've got 
 the street power lines 15 feet in front of my house, with a big transformer 
 on top of a pole.
 I just took a video of the whole thing and you can also hear the sound of it, 
 especially while i tune it up and down.
 Here's a link to the video file in my DropBox: 
 https://dl.dropboxusercontent.com/u/111549/rfi/strange_rfi.wmv
 Sorry for the format. This screen capture program only does Windows Media 
 Video.
 
 I've gone to a point where i've disconnected everything in the shack. 
 Literally. And i could still hear it.
 My Yaesu 857D also hears it, with the same antenna hooked up to it, so that 
 tells me its not my K3 or the panadapter (for that matter).
 I also tried hooking up another antenna (i have a home made fan dipole) and i 
 can still hear it. So its not the antenna (right?).
 
 I'm very open to any suggestions as to what to do? How to narrow it down?
 
 Thanks a bunch in advance!
 
 Slava, W2RMS
 
 P.S. I almost wish i didn't have the panadapter, so i wouldn't even know its 
 there... :-(

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Re: [Elecraft] KXPA100 et Smarttuner SG230

2014-04-09 Thread Dick Dievendorff
We have beta firmware for the KXPA100, now revision 1.28, that causes the 
KXPA100 to be much more tolerant of SWR and reflected power encountered while 
tuning an external tuner.  As others have suggested, set TUN PWR to a low value 
between 5 and 20 watts depending on the needs of your tuner, but normal Tx 
power can be  left at 100 watts.  The KXPA100 won't tolerate without faulting 
really high reflected power (above 50 watts) or long duration reflected power 
above 20 watts or so.

See the KXPA100 firmware page on our website.

73 de Dick, K6KR

 On Apr 9, 2014, at 1:50, Luc Favre luc-fa...@orange.fr wrote:
 
 Hello,
 
 My configuration : KX3, KXPA100 (with KXAT100, not used in normal operation), 
 coax line, SG230 (Smartuner), doublet.
 
 My question :
 In way to tune the Smarttuner, I must send some RF into the Smartuner via the 
 coax line. Before the tuning process begins, the SWR in the coax line to the 
 Smartuner may be very high. In this case, the KXPA100 goes into Fault 
 Condition (Err Ant) ; no RF more, the tuning process stops.
 
 Roundabouts :
 1. PA off (via menu), tuning with KX3 barefoot.
 2. KXAT100 on, KXAT100 tuning, Smartuner tuning, KXAT100 off.
 
 Doing so (1. or 2 above), I can get the Smartuner tuned, but it's a bit 
 cumbersome.
 
 Any idea ?
 
 73
 Luc/F6HJO/HB9ABB
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Re: [Elecraft] K3 TX TEST Mode via Software

2014-04-09 Thread Mike Reublin
Brian -

The IC command will return the status of the TEST setting. In the first byte, 
bit 5 will be 0 if normal, A if in test. See page 13 of the K3  KX3 
Programmers Reference.

73, Mike NF4L

On Apr 9, 2014, at 8:43 AM, Brian Alsop als...@nc.rr.com wrote:

 I'm using the K3 for measurements and want it to be in the TX TEST mode.
 
 The software uses SWH18.  However, it is a toggle.  So if *hit happens and 
 you have to run the data collection software again, it returns the K3 to the 
 normal mode.
 
 I've scanned the manual looking for a command which does the same but is not 
 a toggle.  NADA.
 
 Any workarounds?
 
 73 de Brian/K3KO
 
 
 
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Re: [Elecraft] Anti Static Mats

2014-04-09 Thread ke9uw
Hard to figure out what he is trying to prove. Finally on the antistatic mat
issue, his point was that it doesn't affect measurements made with circuits
lying on the mat. I guess I was thinking that he would show us how the mat
is antistatic, as he did with the bags.


Greetings, all.

Dave Jones, who runs the EEVblog, has a few videos relating to anti-static 
bags and mats. The first one that talks about anti-static bags is worth 
watching. It shows the difference between the common pink anti-static bags 
and the silvery static shielding bags. Those pink bags and the related 
anti-static chip carriers don't do as much to protect your components as 
you might think.

http://www.eevblog.com/2012/02/25/eevblog-247-anti-static-bag-myth-revisted/
http://www.eevblog.com/2012/03/01/eevblog-250-anti-static-mat-myth/
http://www.eevblog.com/2014/03/02/eevblog-585-lab-bench-esd-matting-upgrade-tagarno-hd-microscope/

The first part of the third video (mainly starting around 2.5 minutes in) 
talks about ESD matting that Dave was putting down on his lab benches.

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Re: [Elecraft] Line Out Jack

2014-04-09 Thread Mark Petiford
All,

I was involved on this thread very early in its life because I had remembered 
having a transistor radio that had a mono earphone jack which wouldn't accept a 
modern 3.5mm plug.  At the time, I thought it was a 1/8 in. jack.  The radio 
was from Japan and it was made around 1959.  I suggested that I might be able 
to find one in my junk box.

Well, I went through my entire junk box, as well as a box containing earphones 
dating back to the 1930's, and found one plug (mono) that had a 2.5mm mono plug 
on it.  Everything else was 3.5mm. 

Based on all of my searching, I believe that the old transistor radio actually 
had a 2.5mm jack, and not a .125 inch jack as I thought.  I am also concluding 
that 3.5mm and 1/8in. plugs are the same thing since I have found no evidence 
that a .125 inch diameter plug has ever existed.  If anyone finds one, please 
let us know!

Mark
KE6BB

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I'm curious about this. If anyone has reference to an actual 1/8 connector, 
please forward off list. I don't recall them ever being anything but 3.5mm. My 
recollection is that 3.5mm and 1/8 have always been used interchangeably. I 
believe (guess) the discrepancy is simply that the plug originated as 3.5mm and 
1/8 is the closest fractional inch (9/64 is unsatisfying).Checking 
specifications from one reputable manufacturer calls out sleeve diameter of 
3.5+/-0.05mm for the plug and 3.6mm for the entrance of the jack. As with so 
many things, I'm sure there's no difficulty finding poorly 
designed/manufactured Asian parts that deviate.There's no such issue with 1/4 
phone connectors. They are called out either as 6.35mm or 6.3mm, which is quite 
accurate because they originated as the fractional inch dimension.73,Josh 
W6XUOn 4/7/2014 7:11 PM, Don Wilhelm wrote: 3.5mm and 1/8 inch are now the 
same thing - one place calls them 3.5mm  while others use the 1/8
 inch designation for the same thing. Yes, it was not always so, but that was 
well before stereo plugs and  jacks came into existence. The big issue now is 
manufacturing tolerances that might mean some  jack and plug combinations are 
tight while other combinations may  appear to be sloppy. 1/4 inch plugs and 
jacks are more tolerant of sloppy tolerances i.e  +/- 0.01 mm compared to 
3.5mm is much greater than +/- 0.01 mm  compared to 7 mm (or is it 
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Re: [Elecraft] KXPA100 et Smarttuner SG230

2014-04-09 Thread Wayne Burdick
Luc,

We recently improved both the KX3 and KXPA100 in situations like this. Please 
load the latest beta firmware releases.

73,
Wayne
N6KR


On Apr 9, 2014, at 1:50 AM, Luc Favre luc-fa...@orange.fr wrote:

 Hello,
 
 My configuration : KX3, KXPA100 (with KXAT100, not used in normal operation), 
 coax line, SG230 (Smartuner), doublet.
 
 My question :
 In way to tune the Smarttuner, I must send some RF into the Smartuner via the 
 coax line. Before the tuning process begins, the SWR in the coax line to the 
 Smartuner may be very high. In this case, the KXPA100 goes into Fault 
 Condition (Err Ant) ; no RF more, the tuning process stops.
 
 Roundabouts :
 1. PA off (via menu), tuning with KX3 barefoot.
 2. KXAT100 on, KXAT100 tuning, Smartuner tuning, KXAT100 off.
 
 Doing so (1. or 2 above), I can get the Smartuner tuned, but it's a bit 
 cumbersome.
 
 Any idea ?
 
 73
 Luc/F6HJO/HB9ABB
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Re: [Elecraft] Strange RFI question

2014-04-09 Thread Mark Petiford
Slava,

I agree with Fred that this is noise from one of the many noise generating 
devices in our houses today.  Square waves are generated by most every piece of 
electronics equipment in the house, and most consumer products make no attempt 
at containing them.  We really haven't defended our spectrum from the local 
noise sources very well.  

The spectrum is actually pretty quiet in your location compared to mine.  After 
about 10 years away from ham radio in the 80's, I came back and was surprised 
how noisy the spectrum had become.  The addition of panadapters visually 
confirms what we hear.  For relief, I occasionally carry one of my homebrew DC 
receivers away from cell phones, computers, etc.  just to listen to the beauty 
of RF signals on a clear cold night.  It is like the difference between fine 
wine, and Ripple!

Mark
KE6BB

From: Slava Baytalskiysla...@nullserv.com
Sent: ‎Wed, ‎Apr‎ ‎9‎, ‎2014 at ‎08‎:‎16‎ ‎AM
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Subject: Re: [Elecraft] Strange RFI question

Hi everyone!Sorry about the video not showing up.Not sure why i didn't think of 
just uploading it to YouTube.So, here are two links:This one i took with my 
iPhone. The audio is very low though - http://youtu.be/DOZHHxjDhDIThis one is 
the original that i took with the screen recorder - 
http://youtu.be/Qhs1G9YS5k0Please take a peek and see if you could give me some 
ideas.As i've said earlier this is very pronounced on 20 meters. The signals in 
question are repeating every 61 kHz throughout the band. So its not just one 
signal. And they don't sound like you normal hum or buzz.Thanks in 
advance!Slava, W2RMSOn Apr 8, 2014, at 9:34 PM, Slava Baytalskiy 
sla...@nullserv.com wrote: Hello everyone! I'm not sure if this is the 
correct forum for this sort of a question but i figured i'd give it a shot. 
I've been going out of my mind with this strange signal pattern i've been 
seeing on my new panadapter connected to my new K3. I first saw it on 20 
meters. It
 seems to be the same signal pattern, spaced evenly, at 61 kHz intervals. 
Something tells me that it could very well be outside of my shack. I've got the 
street power lines 15 feet in front of my house, with a big transformer on top 
of a pole. I just took a video of the whole thing and you can also hear the 
sound of it, especially while i tune it up and down. Here's a link to the 
video file in my DropBox: 
https://dl.dropboxusercontent.com/u/111549/rfi/strange_rfi.wmv Sorry for the 
format. This screen capture program only does Windows Media Video.  I've gone 
to a point where i've disconnected everything in the shack. Literally. And i 
could still hear it. My Yaesu 857D also hears it, with the same antenna hooked 
up to it, so that tells me its not my K3 or the panadapter (for that matter). 
I also tried hooking up another antenna (i have a home made fan dipole) and i 
can still hear it. So its not the antenna (right?).  I'm very open to any
 suggestions as to what to do? How to narrow it down?  Thanks a bunch in 
advance!  Slava, W2RMS  P.S. I almost wish i didn't have the panadapter, so 
i wouldn't even know its there... 
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[Elecraft] SGC 230 etc.

2014-04-09 Thread John Veach


I run an SGC 230 on my motorhome into a 33 foot telescoping antenna. I 
never attempt to tune the Smartuner running 100 watts. I always crank 
the power down to about 5 watts and tune. Then run the power up.  I did 
the same with a KW rig I owned in an antenna restricted neighborhood in 
FL many years ago. I tuned a 25 foot commercial flagpole.  Always low 
power first then crank it up.  I wouldn't risk damage to my K3 even if 
the risk is small by dumping 100 watts into a non resonant antenna now 
matter how fast the smartuner works.

At home, I have a SteppIR vertical and a SteppIR beam. I let the antennas 
tune themselves before ever putting any power out.  Luckily, those 
antennas will change frequency with my VFO or computer or both running 
HRD without any RF involved.

 
John KE4D
Fort Clark Springs, Texas
 
John 
Fort Clark Springs, Texas
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[Elecraft] KX3-2M module FAQ update

2014-04-09 Thread Wayne Burdick
See:

   http://www.elecraft.com/manual/KX3-2M%20FAQ.htm

FAQ entries dealing with frequency stability and high-band transverters have 
been updated based on constructive discussions with Dave, G0DJA.

73,
Wayne
N6KR

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Re: [Elecraft] Fixed and Reproduced - Ham Radio Deluxe + KX3 Issues - Re: KX3 - ATU Disabled Problem

2014-04-09 Thread VaibhaV Sharma
Reported the issue to HRD and they responded saying this has been fixed in
HRD 6.2. No more details of how this was fixed.

-- 
VaibhaV



On Tue, Apr 8, 2014 at 9:38 PM, Don Wilhelm w3...@embarqmail.com wrote:

 I believe you have identified an HRD problem.  When the KXPA100 is
 enabled, the KX3 ATU is disabled.  The solution is to set the PA to OFF,
 but apparently HRD is doing that whether the KXPA100 is pesent or not.

 73,
 Don W3FPR

 On 4/8/2014 9:36 PM, VaibhaV Sharma wrote:

 More info on this -

 Howard @ Elecraft Support promptly sent me the factory default config
 file for the radio that fixed the issue. But later, I was able to reproduce
 the issue and also fix without the factory configuration.

 I have the KX3 hooked up to Ham Radio Deluxe (latest version) with serial
 interface for CAT control. HRD works with the radio for the most part
 except I noticed this in the Radio CAT commands configuration -

 | Advanced: KX3 | RF power (High) | Cmd = PC-04,  Min = 0.00, Max
 = 120.00,  Prefix =,  Suffix =
|
 | Advanced: KX3 | RF power (Low)  | Cmd = PC-04,  Min = 0.00, Max
 = 120.00,  Prefix =,  Suffix =
|

 Notice the Max = 120 part? Those values show up on HRD UI as -

 RF Power Low = 12
 RF Power High = 120

 There are two RF power adjustment bard in HRD UI. The RF Power Low
 slider works OK (has other issues) with the KX3 12 watt limit. But even
 touching the RF Power High slider causes the KX3 to switch RF power value
 to 110+ Watts (Yes, without a KXPA100, I wish).

 Once that happens, the ATU disengages and the radio refuses to transmit.

 The easy way to fix this is to touch the RF Power Low slider and the
 radio switches back to under 12W and everything goes back to normal.
 Shouldn't the KX3 itself handle this gracefully without tripping over the
 ATU with bunch of errors?

 I am a brand new HRD user and still getting used to the UI. I reported a
 major security issue to them a few days ago and will report this issue to
 HRD team as well.

 Comments / other ideas welcome.

 Thanks,

 --
 VaibhaV Sharma
 W7VAI




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Re: [Elecraft] KXPA100 et Smarttuner SG230

2014-04-09 Thread Barry LaZar

Luc/Wayne,
Yes. It does work fine. I have an SGC-230 connected to one of my 
antennas, also. The only suggestion that I can make is to make sure that 
the tune power is above the minimum required for the '230. If the SWR is 
very high before the system is tuned, the '230 doesn't quite make it all 
the way if you don't start above minimum required power. The sensitivity 
is primarily at the lower frequencies. Otherwise, no problems.


73,
Barry
K3NDM



On 4/9/2014 11:41 AM, Wayne Burdick wrote:

Luc,

We recently improved both the KX3 and KXPA100 in situations like this. Please 
load the latest beta firmware releases.

73,
Wayne
N6KR


On Apr 9, 2014, at 1:50 AM, Luc Favre luc-fa...@orange.fr wrote:


Hello,

My configuration : KX3, KXPA100 (with KXAT100, not used in normal operation), 
coax line, SG230 (Smartuner), doublet.

My question :
In way to tune the Smarttuner, I must send some RF into the Smartuner via the coax line. 
Before the tuning process begins, the SWR in the coax line to the Smartuner may be very 
high. In this case, the KXPA100 goes into Fault Condition (Err Ant) ; no RF 
more, the tuning process stops.

Roundabouts :
1. PA off (via menu), tuning with KX3 barefoot.
2. KXAT100 on, KXAT100 tuning, Smartuner tuning, KXAT100 off.

Doing so (1. or 2 above), I can get the Smartuner tuned, but it's a bit 
cumbersome.

Any idea ?

73
Luc/F6HJO/HB9ABB
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Re: [Elecraft] KXPA100 et Smarttuner SG230

2014-04-09 Thread Wayne Burdick
I'm also going to change the limit on the KX3's TUN PWR menu entry so you can 
specify QRO power levels ( 10 W) with the TUNE switch.

Wayne
N6KR


On Apr 9, 2014, at 10:35 AM, Barry LaZar k3...@comcast.net wrote:

 Luc/Wayne,
Yes. It does work fine. I have an SGC-230 connected to one of my antennas, 
 also. The only suggestion that I can make is to make sure that the tune power 
 is above the minimum required for the '230. If the SWR is very high before 
 the system is tuned, the '230 doesn't quite make it all the way if you don't 
 start above minimum required power. The sensitivity is primarily at the lower 
 frequencies. Otherwise, no problems.
 
 73,
 Barry
 K3NDM
 
 
 
 On 4/9/2014 11:41 AM, Wayne Burdick wrote:
 Luc,
 
 We recently improved both the KX3 and KXPA100 in situations like this. 
 Please load the latest beta firmware releases.
 
 73,
 Wayne
 N6KR
 
 
 On Apr 9, 2014, at 1:50 AM, Luc Favre luc-fa...@orange.fr wrote:
 
 Hello,
 
 My configuration : KX3, KXPA100 (with KXAT100, not used in normal 
 operation), coax line, SG230 (Smartuner), doublet.
 
 My question :
 In way to tune the Smarttuner, I must send some RF into the Smartuner via 
 the coax line. Before the tuning process begins, the SWR in the coax line 
 to the Smartuner may be very high. In this case, the KXPA100 goes into 
 Fault Condition (Err Ant) ; no RF more, the tuning process stops.
 
 Roundabouts :
 1. PA off (via menu), tuning with KX3 barefoot.
 2. KXAT100 on, KXAT100 tuning, Smartuner tuning, KXAT100 off.
 
 Doing so (1. or 2 above), I can get the Smartuner tuned, but it's a bit 
 cumbersome.
 
 Any idea ?
 
 73
 Luc/F6HJO/HB9ABB
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Re: [Elecraft] KX3-2M module?

2014-04-09 Thread David Anderson
I wouldn't be doing that for a couple reasons Stewart. I was advised not to by 
Elecraft in previous discussions.

1.Wideband transmitted Noise. Under driving the radio PA stageswhile they still 
have the same gain means that the S/N of the transmitted signal is reduced 
considerably, a bad thing especially if a high power amplifier is planned on 
the VHF and above bands where band noise is low and transmitter wideband noise 
will be heard over a wide area.

2. There are some gotchas with the KX3 and setting the output to a low value in 
the transverter menus. I have mentioned these before, but the ATU Tune button 
is dangerous as it will put out a lot more power than what is set in the 
transverter power setting in the settings! Danger Will Robinson! 

So, the only sensible and safe way to wire into an external transverter is to 
use normal HF power output and attenuate with a power attenuator it before the 
input of the transverter, wasteful in power and heat, but...

So aftermarket KX3 PA heatsink and copper heatspreader for SI570 and extra 
calibration for VFO temperature may be essential for the highest frequency 
stability.

73

David Anderson GM4JJJ



 On 9 Apr 2014, at 08:24, stew...@g3ysx.org.uk stew...@g3ysx.org.uk wrote:
 
 When driving a transverter presumably you will be running at 0dbm rather than 
 at 5W. I wonder if the KX3 still experience thermal drift due to PA heating 
 at very low power?
 
 Stewart/G3YSX
 Sent from my iPad
 
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[Elecraft] Split transmit/receive option for KX3

2014-04-09 Thread David Anderson
Would it possible to design a small interface board that could fit in the same 
place as the forthcoming KX3 144 internal transverter, that would split the 
receive and transmit lines for external transverter use? 

Bringing a receive only line to an a SMA would probably work best, as then 
there is no danger of transmitting into the receive mixer of the transverter. 

73

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[Elecraft] [OT] Microsoft Outlook Email Spam-Filter False-Positives Bug -- 1 of 2 Test Messages

2014-04-09 Thread Gary W. Hvizdak
All,

In the past 24 hours Microsoft distributed more than a dozen security
updates, and even though none of them had Outlook in the title, it appears
that Microsoft has resolved their recently introduced false positive
spam-filter bug, which had been plaguing my callsign as well as many others.

Keep in mind that this fix will only work for you, if the recipient of
your emails has installed these latest updates.

--- - - - ---

Hey!  I just got an idea!  I'm going to submit this post twice, once
signing with my callsign spelled using a phonetic alphabet and a second time
with just my callsign.  If you only receive one copy of this message, then
your spam filter is misidentifying my callsign as spam!

73,
Gary  Kilo India Four Golf Golf X-ray


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[Elecraft] [OT] Microsoft Outlook Email Spam-Filter False-Positives Bug -- 2 of 2 Test Messages

2014-04-09 Thread Gary W. Hvizdak
All,

In the past 24 hours Microsoft distributed more than a dozen security
updates, and even though none of them had Outlook in the title, it appears
that Microsoft has resolved their recently introduced false positive
spam-filter bug, which had been plaguing my callsign as well as many others.

Keep in mind that this fix will only work for you, if the recipient of
your emails has installed these latest updates.

--- - - - ---

Hey!  I just got an idea!  I'm going to submit this post twice, once
signing with my callsign spelled using a phonetic alphabet and a second time
with just my callsign.  If you only receive one copy of this message, then
your spam filter is misidentifying my callsign as spam!

If your email client is Microsoft Outlook and you received this (2nd)
copy, then your spam filter is up to date.

73,
Gary  KI4GGX


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Re: [Elecraft] [OT] Microsoft Outlook Email Spam-Filter False-Positives Bug -- 2 of 2 Test Messages

2014-04-09 Thread KQ8M
Don't know what to tell you. I did the updates and yet I got both of your 
emails in outlook. No problem.

73,
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-Original Message-
From: elecraft-boun...@mailman.qth.net 
[mailto:elecraft-boun...@mailman.qth.net] On Behalf Of Gary W. Hvizdak
Sent: Wednesday, April 09, 2014 2:49 PM
To: elecraft@mailman.qth.net
Subject: [Elecraft] [OT] Microsoft Outlook Email Spam-Filter False-Positives 
Bug -- 2 of 2 Test Messages

All,

In the past 24 hours Microsoft distributed more than a dozen security 
updates, and even though none of them had Outlook in the
title, it appears that Microsoft has resolved their recently introduced false 
positive
spam-filter bug, which had been plaguing my callsign as well as many others.

Keep in mind that this fix will only work for you, if the recipient of your 
emails has installed these latest updates.

--- - - - ---

Hey!  I just got an idea!  I'm going to submit this post twice, once 
signing with my callsign spelled using a phonetic alphabet
and a second time with just my callsign.  If you only receive one copy of this 
message, then your spam filter is misidentifying my
callsign as spam!

If your email client is Microsoft Outlook and you received this (2nd) copy, 
then your spam filter is up to date.

73,
Gary  KI4GGX


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Re: [Elecraft] KX3-2M module?

2014-04-09 Thread Edward R Cole

Stewart,

That's a good question.  Certainly lower RF output will generate less 
heat.  One issue that would need to be determined is whether the 2M 
module has any operating mode which would result in a full output 
spike which would likely destroy 0 dBm input circuit 
components.  This has been documented for many non-Elecraft radios.


But let's assume you can turn power to 0.1w at minimum (that is 
currently indicated on the KX3 PWR control).  That would be 100mw or 
+20 dBm level.  That can be attenuated to 0 dBm using a chip 50-ohm 
load or 20-dB attenuator (which I would be sure was rated for 3w - 
just in case).  Design of transverter IF connections could either be 
common Rx/Tx or separate (preferred).  If common, the transverter 
will have some sort of IF T/R control so load/atten. could be 
inserted on the Tx side.  Inserting 20-dB attenuation on receive 
would affect receive sensitivity and possibly system NF.  The circuit 
using a 50-ohm load would couple low power via a 10pF capacitor.  You 
might need to have an adjustable drive level pot following this (make 
it an L-pad).


With operation at this level frequency drift characteristics will 
likely by the same for Rx and Tx.  I can test this concept when I get 
the 2M module for testing on my bench.


73, Ed - KL7UW

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Date: Wed, 9 Apr 2014 08:24:57 +0100
From: stew...@g3ysx.org.uk stew...@g3ysx.org.uk
To: Dave d...@g0dja.co.uk
Cc: elecraft@mailman.qth.net elecraft@mailman.qth.net
Subject: Re: [Elecraft] KX3-2M module?
Message-ID: 967726d0-0801-494f-9816-88c484d22...@g3ysx.org.uk
Content-Type: text/plain;   charset=us-ascii

When driving a transverter presumably you will be running at 0dbm 
rather than at 5W. I wonder if the KX3 still experience thermal drift 
due to PA heating at very low power?


Stewart/G3YSX
Sent from my iPad


73, Ed - KL7UW
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Re: [Elecraft] [OT] Microsoft Outlook Email Spam-Filter False-Positives Bug -- 2 of 2 Test Messages

2014-04-09 Thread Gary W. Hvizdak
A moment ago I posted ...

If your email client is Microsoft Outlook and you received this (2nd)
copy, then your spam filter is up to date.

To which KQ8M replied ...

Don't know what to tell you. I did the updates and yet I got both of
your emails in outlook. No problem.

--

You should have gotten both of them Tim.  (That was the whole point of
the test.)

73,
Gary


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Re: [Elecraft] [OT] Microsoft Outlook Email Spam-Filter False-Positives Bug -- 2 of 2 Test Messages

2014-04-09 Thread KQ8M
Ok I was under the impression you were getting one email sent to the spam file 
due to content.

73,
Tim Herrick, KQ8M
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-Original Message-
From: elecraft-boun...@mailman.qth.net 
[mailto:elecraft-boun...@mailman.qth.net] On Behalf Of Gary W. Hvizdak
Sent: Wednesday, April 09, 2014 3:13 PM
To: elecraft@mailman.qth.net
Subject: Re: [Elecraft] [OT] Microsoft Outlook Email Spam-Filter 
False-Positives Bug -- 2 of 2 Test Messages

A moment ago I posted ...

If your email client is Microsoft Outlook and you received this (2nd) 
copy, then your spam filter is up to date.

To which KQ8M replied ...

Don't know what to tell you. I did the updates and yet I got both of your 
emails in outlook. No problem.

--

You should have gotten both of them Tim.  (That was the whole point of the 
test.)

73,
Gary


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Re: [Elecraft] Strange RFI question

2014-04-09 Thread ab2tc
Hi,

Noise spaced 61kHz apart to me means it's from an Ethernet LAN. Look at
these files:

http://ab2tc.com/ethernoise.png
http://ab2tc.com/ethernoise.mp3

There is one at the center and one just above the frequency of the
cross-hair cursor about 61kHz higher. The mp3 file is a recording from the
K3 in USB mode tuned to the center frequency. They are not all from my own
LAN but mostly from my neighbors. I used to have much worse interference
from my LAN but a combination of ferrites and largely switching to wireless,
my house is now almost clean of this type of noise.

Yes, the panadapter is an eye opener for sure.

AB2TC - Knut


W2RMS wrote
 Hello everyone!
 I'm not sure if this is the correct forum for this sort of a question but
 i figured i'd give it a shot.
 I've been going out of my mind with this strange signal pattern i've been
 seeing on my new panadapter connected to my new K3.
 I first saw it on 20 meters. It seems to be the same signal pattern,
 spaced evenly, at 61 kHz intervals.
 Something tells me that it could very well be outside of my shack. I've
 got the street power lines 15 feet in front of my house, with a big
 transformer on top of a pole.
 I just took a video of the whole thing and you can also hear the sound of
 it, especially while i tune it up and down.
 Here's a link to the video file in my DropBox:
 https://dl.dropboxusercontent.com/u/111549/rfi/strange_rfi.wmv
 Sorry for the format. This screen capture program only does Windows Media
 Video.
 
 I've gone to a point where i've disconnected everything in the shack.
 Literally. And i could still hear it.
 My Yaesu 857D also hears it, with the same antenna hooked up to it, so
 that tells me its not my K3 or the panadapter (for that matter).
 I also tried hooking up another antenna (i have a home made fan dipole)
 and i can still hear it. So its not the antenna (right?).
 
 I'm very open to any suggestions as to what to do? How to narrow it down?
 
 Thanks a bunch in advance!
 
 Slava, W2RMS
 
 P.S. I almost wish i didn't have the panadapter, so i wouldn't even know
 its there... :-(
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[Elecraft] K2ssb receiver sensitivity

2014-04-09 Thread John Cooper
Just installed k2ssb in k2.  Op1 filters sound great however the next three 
filters can still hear but its much quiter in all modes usb lsb cw.

WT5Y


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[Elecraft] K3 Utility and 1mW Calibration

2014-04-09 Thread Jim Rogers
K3 says I got the 2M module installed etc., status LED flashes normal, 
but when I try to run the K3 Utility 1mW calibration it is all greyed 
out. I have missed something somewhere


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Re: [Elecraft] K3 Utility and 1mW Calibration

2014-04-09 Thread Dick Dievendorff
The utility disables the dialog pages when it cannot communicate with the
K3.  Try the port tab, test communications.

Also the milliwatt calibration dialog items are disabled if your KXV3 has
not been enabled in the K3 CONFIG:KXV3 menu.

73 de Dick, K6KR


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Subject: [Elecraft] K3 Utility and 1mW Calibration

K3 says I got the 2M module installed etc., status LED flashes normal, but
when I try to run the K3 Utility 1mW calibration it is all greyed out. I
have missed something somewhere

Jim, W4ATK

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[Elecraft] CW Skimmer/Soundcard Connection

2014-04-09 Thread pastormg2
Good Evening, I have just hooked up the Line Out on the back of the K3 to the 
Input of my Soundblaster USB Card. In the K3 Manual it talks about the Config. 
Line Out to set the level. What number should I be setting mine at? Also, I 
assume that if I use my filters that it will limit the number of signals that 
CW Skimmer will hear. Any help would be greatly apprreciated. Mark Griffin, KB3Z
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[Elecraft] Rotten Signals

2014-04-09 Thread Gary Ferdinand
Dear Elecraft,

We are in critical need of a device that will allow us to monitor our *actual* 
transmitted signal.  There are so many rotten signals out there it’s pathetic.  
 Since it would appear the offshore manufacturers are clueless as to the need 
for clean signals, perhaps pressure can be put upon them to clean up their acts 
by having increasing numbers of transmit signal monitors in the field.  In any 
case I’d like to know that my signal is clean.  The CWops contest last week was 
the last straw for rotten signals for me.

For some time I’ve been using my P3 to analyze others’ signals.  If I had a 
device that is similar in capability to the P3 to monitor my transmitted signal 
that might suffice.  Here I’m thinking CW (spurs, clicks, synth noise…), but 
something that assists the op with transmitted SSB signals would also be of 
use. Likewise RTTY, etc.   I don’t operate enough phone/RTTY  right now to 
judge whether the P3 is sufficient to analyze one’s transmitted SSB signal.

How about it, Elecraft?  It seems the P3 has much of the needed function.  
You’d need some sort of coupler that was fast enough to capture high speed 
signals, while not passing a harmful amount of signal to the “P3T”  
(transmission monitor P3).  Of course the P3T should easily handle 1500 W, not 
merely 500 W, to appeal to a broader market.

Thanks for listening (I hope).  

73,

Gary W2CS



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[Elecraft] Configuring: KX3 -- KPA500 -- KAT500

2014-04-09 Thread Phil Hystad
I am planning on configuring my KX3 to use the KPA500 and the KAT500.  Has 
anyone done this and what did you need to do?  I already know how to hook up 
the KX3 to the KPA500 but would like to hear from someone using all three 
together.  In particular, connections between KPA500 and KAT500.

Also, follow up question -- if you have a configuration where you switch KX3 
and K3 driving the KPA500+KAT500 do you disconnect any K3 involved AUX cables?  
I presume you would run with the K3 powered off if you are driving with a KX3.

Thanks,

73, phil, K7PEH

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Re: [Elecraft] Rotten Signals

2014-04-09 Thread Gary Gregory
Gary,

The Sensor: input on the rear of th P3 is there for that
purposehowever, the device has not been announced by Elecraft to date
despite repeated requests.

I too really do want to be able to monitor my TX signal, one of the
disadvantages I have is that I operate Portable from my Motorhome 24/7
and as you can imagine, this constant changing of the station setup leads
to mistakes or oopsies when setting up..:-)

I also beg Elecraft to listen to our pleas

73

Gary


On 10 April 2014 09:19, Gary Ferdinand alapa...@taconic.net wrote:

 Dear Elecraft,

 We are in critical need of a device that will allow us to monitor our
 *actual* transmitted signal.  There are so many rotten signals out there
 it's pathetic.   Since it would appear the offshore manufacturers are
 clueless as to the need for clean signals, perhaps pressure can be put upon
 them to clean up their acts by having increasing numbers of transmit signal
 monitors in the field.  In any case I'd like to know that my signal is
 clean.  The CWops contest last week was the last straw for rotten signals
 for me.

 For some time I've been using my P3 to analyze others' signals.  If I had
 a device that is similar in capability to the P3 to monitor my transmitted
 signal that might suffice.  Here I'm thinking CW (spurs, clicks, synth
 noise...), but something that assists the op with transmitted SSB signals
 would also be of use. Likewise RTTY, etc.   I don't operate enough
 phone/RTTY  right now to judge whether the P3 is sufficient to analyze
 one's transmitted SSB signal.

 How about it, Elecraft?  It seems the P3 has much of the needed function.
  You'd need some sort of coupler that was fast enough to capture high speed
 signals, while not passing a harmful amount of signal to the P3T
  (transmission monitor P3).  Of course the P3T should easily handle 1500 W,
 not merely 500 W, to appeal to a broader market.

 Thanks for listening (I hope).

 73,

 Gary W2CS



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Re: [Elecraft] Configuring: KX3 -- KPA500 -- KAT500

2014-04-09 Thread Wayne Burdick
Phil,

This should work well. You'll want to install the latest firmware on all units 
(use the beta if it's more recent than production).

In particular, we recently updated the KXPA100 to be more tolerant of SWR 
swings when driving into an antenna tuner. 

73,
Wayne
N6KR

On Apr 9, 2014, at 4:23 PM, Phil Hystad phys...@mac.com wrote:

 I am planning on configuring my KX3 to use the KPA500 and the KAT500.  Has 
 anyone done this and what did you need to do?  I already know how to hook up 
 the KX3 to the KPA500 but would like to hear from someone using all three 
 together.  In particular, connections between KPA500 and KAT500.
 
 Also, follow up question -- if you have a configuration where you switch KX3 
 and K3 driving the KPA500+KAT500 do you disconnect any K3 involved AUX 
 cables?  I presume you would run with the K3 powered off if you are driving 
 with a KX3.
 
 Thanks,
 
 73, phil, K7PEH
 
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Re: [Elecraft] Rotten Signals

2014-04-09 Thread Mark Petiford
Ok, great idea, guys.  So, Elecraft, will the recently announced PX3 have 
provisions to add this capability like the P3 does?If so, I want one!

It is less than a week old and we already want more!!! ;-)    

Mark
KE6BB

From: Gary Gregoryvk1zzg...@gmail.com
Sent: ‎Wed, ‎Apr‎ ‎9‎, ‎2014 at ‎04‎:‎53‎ ‎PM
To: Gary Ferdinand alapa...@taconic.net
CC: elecraft elecraft@mailman.qth.net
Subject: Re: [Elecraft] Rotten Signals

Gary,The Sensor: input on the rear of th P3 is there for 
thatpurposehowever, the device has not been announced by Elecraft to 
datedespite repeated requests.I too really do want to be able to monitor my 
TX signal, one of thedisadvantages I have is that I operate Portable from my 
Motorhome 24/7and as you can imagine, this constant changing of the station 
setup leadsto mistakes or oopsies when setting up..:-)I also beg Elecraft to 
listen to our pleas73GaryOn 10 April 2014 09:19, Gary Ferdinand 
alapa...@taconic.net wrote: Dear Elecraft, We are in critical need of a 
device that will allow us to monitor our *actual* transmitted signal.  There 
are so many rotten signals out there it's pathetic.   Since it would appear 
the offshore manufacturers are clueless as to the need for clean signals, 
perhaps pressure can be put upon them to clean up their acts by having 
increasing numbers of transmit signal monitors in the field.  In any case
 I'd like to know that my signal is clean.  The CWops contest last week was 
the last straw for rotten signals for me. For some time I've been using my 
P3 to analyze others' signals.  If I had a device that is similar in 
capability to the P3 to monitor my transmitted signal that might suffice.  
Here I'm thinking CW (spurs, clicks, synth noise...), but something that 
assists the op with transmitted SSB signals would also be of use. Likewise 
RTTY, etc.   I don't operate enough phone/RTTY  right now to judge whether the 
P3 is sufficient to analyze one's transmitted SSB signal. How about it, 
Elecraft?  It seems the P3 has much of the needed function.  You'd need some 
sort of coupler that was fast enough to capture high speed signals, while not 
passing a harmful amount of signal to the P3T  (transmission monitor P3).  
Of course the P3T should easily handle 1500 W, not merely 500 W, to appeal to 
a broader market. Thanks for
 listening (I hope). 73, Gary W2CS 
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Re: [Elecraft] Rotten Signals

2014-04-09 Thread riese-k3djc
  If I had a 
 device that is similar in capability to the P3 to monitor my 
 transmitted signal that might suffice. 

Just get rid of ESSB on 75 meters

Har

Bob
K3DJC

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[Elecraft] OT: application of directional Quad in UHF

2014-04-09 Thread Johnny Siu
Thank you for all your replies to my email below. I have already summerised 
your input (of course, with credit and copy right to you) and passed to local 
ham societies for their reference.

This is a great mail listing and I have been benefited from the learnt radio 
professions.

Thanks a lot.

73

Johnny VR2XMC
 


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收件人︰ Elecraft elecraft@mailman.qth.net 
傳送日期︰ 2014年04月4日 (週五) 11:05 AM
主題︰ OT: application of directional Quad in UHF
  


Hello Elecrafters,

It is off-topic and you can press 'DEL' now.

Hong Kong is quite a hilly place in the rural areas. Local ham societies are 
often providing radio communication support services to charity organisations 
having fun raising sports activities in these areas.  We have to set up UHF 
repeaters at the hill tops.  Purely from the radio text books, a 3 element quad 
gives better performance than a 3 element yagi.  However, I seldom see using 
directional Quad in the UHF repeaters.

Apart from performance, are there any disdvantages (or advantages) of using 
directional quad instead of yagi in UHF repeaters?  Could you share with me 
your experience in US?

Thanks for your help in advance and please reply off-the-list to reduce the 
traffic in the mail listing (oh, yes, not forum!!)

73

Johnny VR2XMC
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Re: [Elecraft] Rotten Signals

2014-04-09 Thread Gary Gregory
Just hope that ESSB goes away along with Roger Beeps and after market audio
products would help clean up a few rubbish signals on all bands...:-)

gary


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   If I had a
  device that is similar in capability to the P3 to monitor my
  transmitted signal that might suffice.

 Just get rid of ESSB on 75 meters

 Har

 Bob
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Re: [Elecraft] Rotten Signals

2014-04-09 Thread Milverton M. Swire
Gary, what are you going to do about all the over active ALC, sprinkled with 
copious amount of Compression and marinated with an excessive amount of mic 
gain on any given contest weekend? 
These by far out numbered the ESSBer we are so quick to mentioned! 
Just wondering?

73 Milverton. 

How good and pleasant it would be, before God and Man, to see the unification 
of all Mankind.

 On Apr 9, 2014, at 20:43, Gary Gregory vk1zzg...@gmail.com wrote:
 
 Just hope that ESSB goes away along with Roger Beeps and after market audio
 products would help clean up a few rubbish signals on all bands...:-)
 
 gary
 
 
 On 10 April 2014 11:22, riese-k3...@juno.com wrote:
 
  If I had a
 device that is similar in capability to the P3 to monitor my
 transmitted signal that might suffice.
 
 Just get rid of ESSB on 75 meters
 
 Har
 
 Bob
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Re: [Elecraft] Configuring: KX3 -- KPA500 -- KAT500

2014-04-09 Thread Jim Bennett
phil,

I'm doing exactly that - I have a KX3 and a K3 that share a KPA500, KAT500, and 
several antennas. I went by the diagram in Fred Kady's book on the KX3. Works 
like a charm. I can get up to 250 watts out with the KX3 driving the amp at 12 
watts. And, no, I do not disconnect anything when I want to use the KX3 with 
the amp and tuner. Just make sure that (1) the K3 is powered off if you are 
using the KX3, and (2) your coax switch connecting the two radios to the amp 
has very good isolation. I'm using a two position Daiwa coax switch at the 
moment.

Let me know if you need more info. I've been using this configuration for a few 
months now.

Jim / W6JHB


On   Wednesday, Apr 9, 2014, at  Wednesday, 4:23 PM, Phil Hystad wrote:

 I am planning on configuring my KX3 to use the KPA500 and the KAT500.  Has 
 anyone done this and what did you need to do?  I already know how to hook up 
 the KX3 to the KPA500 but would like to hear from someone using all three 
 together.  In particular, connections between KPA500 and KAT500.
 
 Also, follow up question -- if you have a configuration where you switch KX3 
 and K3 driving the KPA500+KAT500 do you disconnect any K3 involved AUX 
 cables?  I presume you would run with the K3 powered off if you are driving 
 with a KX3.
 
 Thanks,
 
 73, phil, K7PEH
 
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Re: [Elecraft] Configuring: KX3 -- KPA500 -- KAT500

2014-04-09 Thread Phil Hystad
Jim,

I think you mentioned the Cady KX3 book to me on a previous similar message.  
If not, it was someone else.  But, at that time, I searched for the diagram and 
could not find it.  Upon the message below I searched again, page by page.  
Finally found it.  Now, I looked in the table-of-contents but for some strange 
reason I never saw that section on the KX3 and KPA500.

I do have a Diamond CX-210 two-position switch.  I have a bunch of those in my 
shack, also one 3 position.

73, phil, K7PEH


On Apr 9, 2014, at 7:29 PM, Jim Bennett w6...@mac.com wrote:

 phil,
 
 I'm doing exactly that - I have a KX3 and a K3 that share a KPA500, KAT500, 
 and several antennas. I went by the diagram in Fred Kady's book on the KX3. 
 Works like a charm. I can get up to 250 watts out with the KX3 driving the 
 amp at 12 watts. And, no, I do not disconnect anything when I want to use the 
 KX3 with the amp and tuner. Just make sure that (1) the K3 is powered off if 
 you are using the KX3, and (2) your coax switch connecting the two radios to 
 the amp has very good isolation. I'm using a two position Daiwa coax switch 
 at the moment.
 
 Let me know if you need more info. I've been using this configuration for a 
 few months now.
 
 Jim / W6JHB
 
 
 On   Wednesday, Apr 9, 2014, at  Wednesday, 4:23 PM, Phil Hystad wrote:
 
 I am planning on configuring my KX3 to use the KPA500 and the KAT500.  Has 
 anyone done this and what did you need to do?  I already know how to hook up 
 the KX3 to the KPA500 but would like to hear from someone using all three 
 together.  In particular, connections between KPA500 and KAT500.
 
 Also, follow up question -- if you have a configuration where you switch KX3 
 and K3 driving the KPA500+KAT500 do you disconnect any K3 involved AUX 
 cables?  I presume you would run with the K3 powered off if you are driving 
 with a KX3.
 
 Thanks,
 
 73, phil, K7PEH
 
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Re: [Elecraft] Configuring: KX3 -- KPA500 -- KAT500

2014-04-09 Thread Phil Wheeler
Surprising, because I couldn't find any mention of 
the KPA500 in his K3 book by searching the pdf 
version. Maybe I did a typo.


73, Phil W7OX

On 4/9/14, 8:55 PM, Phil Hystad wrote:

Jim,

I think you mentioned the Cady KX3 book to me on a previous similar message.  
If not, it was someone else.  But, at that time, I searched for the diagram and 
could not find it.  Upon the message below I searched again, page by page.  
Finally found it.  Now, I looked in the table-of-contents but for some strange 
reason I never saw that section on the KX3 and KPA500.

I do have a Diamond CX-210 two-position switch.  I have a bunch of those in my 
shack, also one 3 position.

73, phil, K7PEH


On Apr 9, 2014, at 7:29 PM, Jim Bennett w6...@mac.com wrote:


phil,

I'm doing exactly that - I have a KX3 and a K3 that share a KPA500, KAT500, and 
several antennas. I went by the diagram in Fred Cady's book on the KX3. Works 
like a charm. I can get up to 250 watts out with the KX3 driving the amp at 12 
watts. And, no, I do not disconnect anything when I want to use the KX3 with 
the amp and tuner. Just make sure that (1) the K3 is powered off if you are 
using the KX3, and (2) your coax switch connecting the two radios to the amp 
has very good isolation. I'm using a two position Daiwa coax switch at the 
moment.

Let me know if you need more info. I've been using this configuration for a few 
months now.

Jim / W6JHB


On   Wednesday, Apr 9, 2014, at  Wednesday, 4:23 PM, Phil Hystad wrote:


I am planning on configuring my KX3 to use the KPA500 and the KAT500.  Has 
anyone done this and what did you need to do?  I already know how to hook up 
the KX3 to the KPA500 but would like to hear from someone using all three 
together.  In particular, connections between KPA500 and KAT500.

Also, follow up question -- if you have a configuration where you switch KX3 
and K3 driving the KPA500+KAT500 do you disconnect any K3 involved AUX cables?  
I presume you would run with the K3 powered off if you are driving with a KX3.

Thanks,

73, phil, K7PEH


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Re: [Elecraft] Configuring: KX3 -- KPA500 -- KAT500

2014-04-09 Thread Jim Bennett
It be on page 147 in my book. Figure 9.17 shows a complete K3--KPA500--KAT500 
setup. This is exactly how I've got mine set up. Nothing in the index, but it 
is in the TOC in the front. :-)

Jim / W6JHB


On   Wednesday, Apr 9, 2014, at  Wednesday, 9:25 PM, Phil Wheeler wrote:

 Surprising, because I couldn't find any mention of the KPA500 in his K3 book 
 by searching the pdf version. Maybe I did a typo.
 
 73, Phil W7OX
 
 On 4/9/14, 8:55 PM, Phil Hystad wrote:
 Jim,
 
 I think you mentioned the Cady KX3 book to me on a previous similar message. 
  If not, it was someone else.  But, at that time, I searched for the diagram 
 and could not find it.  Upon the message below I searched again, page by 
 page.  Finally found it.  Now, I looked in the table-of-contents but for 
 some strange reason I never saw that section on the KX3 and KPA500.
 
 I do have a Diamond CX-210 two-position switch.  I have a bunch of those in 
 my shack, also one 3 position.
 
 73, phil, K7PEH
 
 
 On Apr 9, 2014, at 7:29 PM, Jim Bennett w6...@mac.com wrote:
 
 phil,
 
 I'm doing exactly that - I have a KX3 and a K3 that share a KPA500, KAT500, 
 and several antennas. I went by the diagram in Fred Cady's book on the KX3. 
 Works like a charm. I can get up to 250 watts out with the KX3 driving the 
 amp at 12 watts. And, no, I do not disconnect anything when I want to use 
 the KX3 with the amp and tuner. Just make sure that (1) the K3 is powered 
 off if you are using the KX3, and (2) your coax switch connecting the two 
 radios to the amp has very good isolation. I'm using a two position Daiwa 
 coax switch at the moment.
 
 Let me know if you need more info. I've been using this configuration for a 
 few months now.
 
 Jim / W6JHB
 
 
 On   Wednesday, Apr 9, 2014, at  Wednesday, 4:23 PM, Phil Hystad wrote:
 
 I am planning on configuring my KX3 to use the KPA500 and the KAT500.  Has 
 anyone done this and what did you need to do?  I already know how to hook 
 up the KX3 to the KPA500 but would like to hear from someone using all 
 three together.  In particular, connections between KPA500 and KAT500.
 
 Also, follow up question -- if you have a configuration where you switch 
 KX3 and K3 driving the KPA500+KAT500 do you disconnect any K3 involved AUX 
 cables?  I presume you would run with the K3 powered off if you are 
 driving with a KX3.
 
 Thanks,
 
 73, phil, K7PEH
 

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[Elecraft] OT: MS Update (recent)

2014-04-09 Thread Edward R Cole
I was surprised to see the updates, 32 of them, from MS Update since 
April 8 had passed.  Well, maybe they put it out on April 8.  I had 
successfully downloaded and saved the professional SP3 files, IE8, 
malware updates, etc. and ran then auto update for my computer.  I 
was surprised to get a very large update for winXP.


Then this second large update.  I can't say I can discern any change 
in performance.


Re: Outlook update, I do not use it as my mail client.

So I can only surmise that MS support is not altogether gone.
**no need to reply**  just FYI

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Re: [Elecraft] Rotten Signals

2014-04-09 Thread Jim Brown

On 4/9/2014 6:56 PM, Milverton M. Swire wrote:

all the over active ALC, sprinkled with copious amount of Compression and 
marinated with an excessive amount of mic gain on any given contest weekend?


I put about 24 hours into WPX SSB a week or so ago, and the number of 
AWFUL signals nearly outnumbered the number of clean ones. At least two 
dozen times, I had to tell callers their audio was so bad that I 
couldn't copy them. In every case, mic gain was turned up FAR, FAR too 
high, and so was compression. There were dozens of stations calling CQ 
with audio so bad that I couldn't copy their calls, let alone try to 
make an exchange.


This is PURELY a matter of STUPIDITY on the part of the operator (and 
perhaps an unsportsmanly intent to produce splatter to keep other 
stations away from their sidebands), and there's no excuse for it. Most 
modern rigs have a monitor function lets the operator listen to his 
transmitted audio, and I'd bet that many of those who sound the worst 
have another rig that the COULD use to listen to their own RF signal.


73, Jim K9YC


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Re: [Elecraft] Rotten Signals

2014-04-09 Thread W0MU Mike Fatchett
I like the CQ messages with a different voice that comes back to you.  
Usually the CQ message from a certain area is really bad sounding but 
the real ops sound much better.


Sadly I believe many intentionally distort their audio to make their 
signals wider.


Mike W0MU

On 4/9/2014 11:09 PM, Jim Brown wrote:

On 4/9/2014 6:56 PM, Milverton M. Swire wrote:
all the over active ALC, sprinkled with copious amount of Compression 
and marinated with an excessive amount of mic gain on any given 
contest weekend?


I put about 24 hours into WPX SSB a week or so ago, and the number of 
AWFUL signals nearly outnumbered the number of clean ones. At least 
two dozen times, I had to tell callers their audio was so bad that I 
couldn't copy them. In every case, mic gain was turned up FAR, FAR too 
high, and so was compression. There were dozens of stations calling CQ 
with audio so bad that I couldn't copy their calls, let alone try to 
make an exchange.


This is PURELY a matter of STUPIDITY on the part of the operator (and 
perhaps an unsportsmanly intent to produce splatter to keep other 
stations away from their sidebands), and there's no excuse for it. 
Most modern rigs have a monitor function lets the operator listen to 
his transmitted audio, and I'd bet that many of those who sound the 
worst have another rig that the COULD use to listen to their own RF 
signal.


73, Jim K9YC


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[Elecraft] Audio interface issue.

2014-04-09 Thread Dick Frey
I have blown up computer motherboard audio line inputs on three computers
and two USB audio adapter dongles trying to run RTTY or PSK.

The Line Out is set at nor 15. There was a direct connection from Line
out to the rear sound line in.There is a large ferrite 51 mix choke on the
cable. There was a ~20dB pad in line going to the mic input on the
dongles. The antennas are 150' away 75' up, and I am running 500W.

The line output is transformer-coupled, right? It appears there is some
sort of transient that's killing the input to the audio codecs.

Does anyone have experience with this problem?

-- 
Dick - N7XU
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