Re: [Elecraft] K3 receiver troubleshooting

2014-07-17 Thread Rick Stealey
Guy, thanks for the tip.  I will give it a try.
A relay in the kxv3 rev 2 failed, an Omron part.  It is now obsolete.
Elecraft sells a new rev 3 version of the kxv3 for $88 as an upgrade.  You 
trade in your defective module. 

The failure occurred during the night that we had electrical storms so I 
assumed some solid state part in the rx path had probably gotten zapped.
But we could inject a weak signal after the kxv3 and hear it, but not before 
it.  Of course that sounds like a simple diagnosis, and it is when you are 
reading the final outcome, but not when your rig is spread out on the bench.

 From: k2av@gmail.com
 Date: Wed, 16 Jul 2014 16:06:24 -0400
 Subject: Re: [Elecraft] K3 receiver troubleshooting
 To: rstea...@hotmail.com
 CC: elecraft@mailman.qth.net
 
 On Wed, Jul 16, 2014 at 10:58 AM, Rick Stealey rstea...@hotmail.com wrote:
  Thanks to all who offered helpful suggestions.  They were all via email - 
  you notice there were no helpful postings on the reflector.  Anyway, it's 
  working again and I'm a happy camper.
 
 I note you did not post what the actual solution was. You are the only
 source for that information.
 
 Just a reminder that the Elecraft reflector is not an Elecraft
 technical support email address. While Elecraft employees may post
 here from time to time to answer email on the reflector, there is no
 guarantee that Elecraft employees or Elecraft owners will answer a
 particular question. For Elecraft help from Elecraft employees one
 should use supp...@elecraft.com or k3supp...@elecraft.com with issues.
 These emails are answered during normal business days and hours.
 
 Reflector readers are not under contract to Elecraft to answer posts,
 nor is there a requirement that someone who does answer a reflector
 post must do so on the reflector.
 
 Personally, I rarely offer help across this or any other reflector any
 more, because it is too hard to keep track of helping email threads. I
 set up a new folder with an intelligent name for a corresponder with
 filters to put new mail from him/her in that folder. Not putting that
 help conversation on the reflector also avoids trash talk (both on and
 off reflector) from a certain kind of reflector user which otherwise
 is a real and ugly disincentive. I will sometimes convert to telephone
 conversations if the writing becomes too complex. All that goes on
 without a clue on a reflector I was there.
 
 I would say that it's up to the person who asked for help to post the
 eventual solution on the reflector. This makes the answer compact and
 only relates the answer that actually worked. And it cuts down on
 noise when someone is later searching archives for a solution.
 
 Clearly those who answered you off-reflector saw the post on the
 reflector and so it would seem to me that the Elecraft reflector
 worked well. But email correspondence is no match for a technical
 buddy with test equipment working right there with you on the physical
 equipment. :)
 
 As to the schematics, using the current Adobe Reader to display the
 schematic PDF's, the search function will find all the occurrences of
 a wire label very quickly. I have found Elecraft schematics **very
 easy** to navigate and use with Adobe Reader. I decidedly prefer
 Elecraft schems to the microscopic lines in the paper schematic of my
 FT1000MP, and having to pencil trace a wire as it snakes around the
 page.
 
 To find the KXV3, bring up the June, 2010 version of the K3 schematic
 PDF with a current Adobe Reader. Hit CTRL-F. This will bring up a blue
 find window at the upper right. Type in kxv3 and hit enter. You
 can repeat the search to see every instance of the characters kxv3
 (case insensitive) anywhere in the PDF.
 
 Huge help in chasing stuff in PDF schematics.
 
 73, and glad you found the trouble.
 
 Guy K2AV
  
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Re: [Elecraft] K3 with P4dragon DR-7800

2014-07-17 Thread LA7NO
I found the problem.
Increased the settings of PSK/FSK Level in RMS Express TNC Setup to 600.
Now I've got full power out from the K3.
Guess I'll have to investigate proper MIC setting in order to avoid
flat-topping etc.

P-T






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[Elecraft] K1-4 4 band version gone?

2014-07-17 Thread Bruce Beford
All this talk about the K1 backlight led me to look back at the K1 order
page. There is no option for a 4-band version, nor for the KFL1-4 4-band
filter module itself. Is this an oversight, or has the 4-band board been
discontinued? If so, when and why? Also if so, then the K1 description page
should be edited to remove reference to the new 4 band board... or at
least explain that it is no longer available.

Bruce
N1RX


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Re: [Elecraft] K3 with P4dragon DR-7800

2014-07-17 Thread Don Wilhelm

P-T,

If you follow the instructions frequently given on this reflector, you 
will have proper power control and no flat-topping.
For soundcard Data modes, monitor the audio input level on the ALC 
meter.  You should have 4 bars illuminated with the 5th bar flickering.
The first bars of the ALC meter do not actually indicate ALC - the onset 
of ALC is at the 5th bar, so the lower bars are used like a VU-meter 
to aid in adjusting the audio drive level.\


The closed loop method of power control used by the K3 requires that you 
fully drive the audio and use the power knob to set the desired power 
output.  Attempting to control the power with the audio drive will 
result in power hunting.


73,
Don W3FPR

On 7/17/2014 6:09 AM, LA7NO wrote:

I found the problem.
Increased the settings of PSK/FSK Level in RMS Express TNC Setup to 600.
Now I've got full power out from the K3.
Guess I'll have to investigate proper MIC setting in order to avoid
flat-topping etc.

P-T






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[Elecraft] K3 with P4dragon DR-7800

2014-07-17 Thread Johnny Siu
Hello Gentleman,

In fact, I was annoyed by SCS modem.  I sent Martin of SCS modem emails and 
asked him about the connection between their modem and K3 or KX3.  SCS modem's 
answer was a simply 'no', no information available.  It was a very frustrated 
experience.  Perhaps, SCS modem is more interested in marine radio sector.

My original ideas was that KX3+ Pactor 3 or 4 modem will be a good combination 
for many communication purposes.

73

Johnny VR2XMC
 


 寄件人︰ Don Wilhelm w3...@embarqmail.com
收件人︰ LA7NO p...@ieee.org; elecraft@mailman.qth.net 
傳送日期︰ 2014年07月17日 (週四) 7:20 PM
主題︰ Re: [Elecraft] K3 with P4dragon DR-7800
  

P-T,

If you follow the instructions frequently given on this reflector, you 
will have proper power control and no flat-topping.
For soundcard Data modes, monitor the audio input level on the ALC 
meter.  You should have 4 bars illuminated with the 5th bar flickering.
The first bars of the ALC meter do not actually indicate ALC - the onset 
of ALC is at the 5th bar, so the lower bars are used like a VU-meter 
to aid in adjusting the audio drive level.\

The closed loop method of power control used by the K3 requires that you 
fully drive the audio and use the power knob to set the desired power 
output.  Attempting to control the power with the audio drive will 
result in power hunting.

73,
Don W3FPR

On 7/17/2014 6:09 AM, LA7NO wrote:
 I found the problem.
 Increased the settings of PSK/FSK Level in RMS Express TNC Setup to 600.
 Now I've got full power out from the K3.
 Guess I'll have to investigate proper MIC setting in order to avoid
 flat-topping etc.

 P-T
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Re: [Elecraft] KX3 Receiver Problem

2014-07-17 Thread aknisley
I have the same problem on a new KX3. Did you get it to work?



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Re: [Elecraft] [KX3] Hardware

2014-07-17 Thread Gary W. Hvizdak
On Wednesday January 2nd 2013 at 13:00:22 EST Clint Stark KI6SSN posted ...

Has anyone heard anything about stainless / corrosion [resistant] hardware
for the mighty KX3?

--- - - - ---

Hi Clint,

I am considering offering a stainless steel hardware kit for the KX3 via
http://www.unpcbs.com/ and just found your post in the Reflector archives.
Can you bring me up to speed on the subject?

See also ...

o   http://www.ve7fmn.ca/order/#threads
o   http://www.ve7fmn.ca/faqs/#about_accessories

TNX  73,
Gary  KI4GGX
(webmaster)

Disclaimer ... I do not own a KX3, but I know someone who does!


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Re: [Elecraft] K3 with P4dragon DR-7800

2014-07-17 Thread ejkkjh

Not sure this will help but I have used SCS PTC-II with my K3.
The modem has both hardware and software adjustments for the mic gain, 
suspect this new modem would too?

Emory WM3M

-Original Message- 
From: Johnny Siu

Sent: Thursday, July 17, 2014 8:41 AM
To: LA7NO ; elecraft@mailman.qth.net
Subject: [Elecraft] K3 with P4dragon DR-7800

Hello Gentleman,

In fact, I was annoyed by SCS modem.  I sent Martin of SCS modem emails and 
asked him about the connection between their modem and K3 or KX3.  SCS 
modem's answer was a simply 'no', no information available.  It was a very 
frustrated experience.  Perhaps, SCS modem is more interested in marine 
radio sector.


My original ideas was that KX3+ Pactor 3 or 4 modem will be a good 
combination for many communication purposes.


73

Johnny VR2XMC



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收件人︰ LA7NO p...@ieee.org; elecraft@mailman.qth.net
傳送日期︰ 2014年07月17日 (週四) 7:20 PM
主題︰ Re: [Elecraft] K3 with P4dragon DR-7800


P-T,

If you follow the instructions frequently given on this reflector, you
will have proper power control and no flat-topping.
For soundcard Data modes, monitor the audio input level on the ALC
meter.  You should have 4 bars illuminated with the 5th bar flickering.
The first bars of the ALC meter do not actually indicate ALC - the onset
of ALC is at the 5th bar, so the lower bars are used like a VU-meter
to aid in adjusting the audio drive level.\

The closed loop method of power control used by the K3 requires that you
fully drive the audio and use the power knob to set the desired power
output.  Attempting to control the power with the audio drive will
result in power hunting.

73,
Don W3FPR

On 7/17/2014 6:09 AM, LA7NO wrote:

I found the problem.
Increased the settings of PSK/FSK Level in RMS Express TNC Setup to 600.
Now I've got full power out from the K3.
Guess I'll have to investigate proper MIC setting in order to avoid
flat-topping etc.

P-T

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Re: [Elecraft] K3 with P4dragon DR-7800

2014-07-17 Thread LA7NO
Hi Don,

Thanks for your helpful comments.

I've tried to do this adjustment while attempting to initialize a WL2K
connection via RMS Express. However, I find it difficult to adjust the ALC,
since the meter flickers way too fast.

P-T





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Re: [Elecraft] K3 with P4dragon DR-7800

2014-07-17 Thread LA7NO
Hi Johnny,

Martin of SCS has been quite friendly towards me. He tried to help me even
if he was on vacation. What more can one ask?

However, I'm a bit disappointed over the documentation for the P4. So far
there is only an installation manual. The full manual with command
description etc. is missing. I had to download the manual for another modem
in order to get info on the command set. And I've not so far found any
information of the misc info that can be displayed on the P4 screen.

But I have a lot of patience, and will wait and see. ;-)

P-T





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[Elecraft] K3 Audio: from OK to superior

2014-07-17 Thread Ignacy
I use Yamaha CM500 with K3. It is wearing out so I started looking at
alternatives. Yesterday I connected Bose OE ($100).  The sound quality
changed from OK or a bit harsh to very smooth, like from Chevy to Cadillac.  
A pleasure to listen to.

I thought that headphones are headphones and their main differences are
frequencies characteristics, sensitivity + fit. However, with OE the sound
quality is greatly improved. Any idea why?

Seems choosing $40 headsets with $3k radio is not be the best idea. 

If only they had a headset

Ignacy, NO9E



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Re: [Elecraft] KX3 Receiver Problem

2014-07-17 Thread Phil Wheeler
Folks, please quote enough of the message you 
reply to so we know the context. This is not a 
Yahoo group and I'm not interested in detouring to 
Nabble since often I read messages on my iPhone.


Thanks in advance!

73, Phil W7OX

On 7/17/14, 6:27 AM, aknisley wrote:

I have the same problem on a new KX3. Did you get it to work?



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Re: [Elecraft] K3 Audio: from OK to superior

2014-07-17 Thread Phil Wheeler
Re If only they had a headset: Doesn't Elecraft 
still sell a Heil headset mic?


Phil W7OX

On 7/17/14, 8:19 AM, Ignacy wrote:

I use Yamaha CM500 with K3. It is wearing out so I started looking at
alternatives. Yesterday I connected Bose OE ($100).  The sound quality
changed from OK or a bit harsh to very smooth, like from Chevy to Cadillac.
A pleasure to listen to.

I thought that headphones are headphones and their main differences are
frequencies characteristics, sensitivity + fit. However, with OE the sound
quality is greatly improved. Any idea why?

Seems choosing $40 headsets with $3k radio is not be the best idea.

If only they had a headset

Ignacy, NO9E


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Re: [Elecraft] K3 receiver troubleshooting

2014-07-17 Thread Eric Ross
Just curious.  What does anyone recommend for a signal generator to use
for this kind of diagnostic process.  I am looking for something fairly
low cost as I hope I won't be doing this very often.

Eric
wb7sde

On Thu, Jul 17, 2014, at 02:55 AM, Rick Stealey wrote:
 Guy, thanks for the tip.  I will give it a try.
 A relay in the kxv3 rev 2 failed, an Omron part.  It is now obsolete.
 Elecraft sells a new rev 3 version of the kxv3 for $88 as an upgrade. 
 You trade in your defective module. 
 
 The failure occurred during the night that we had electrical storms so I
 assumed some solid state part in the rx path had probably gotten zapped.
 But we could inject a weak signal after the kxv3 and hear it, but not
 before it.  Of course that sounds like a simple diagnosis, and it is when
 you are reading the final outcome, but not when your rig is spread out on
 the bench.
 
  From: k2av@gmail.com
  Date: Wed, 16 Jul 2014 16:06:24 -0400
  Subject: Re: [Elecraft] K3 receiver troubleshooting
  To: rstea...@hotmail.com
  CC: elecraft@mailman.qth.net
  
  On Wed, Jul 16, 2014 at 10:58 AM, Rick Stealey rstea...@hotmail.com wrote:
   Thanks to all who offered helpful suggestions.  They were all via email - 
   you notice there were no helpful postings on the reflector.  Anyway, it's 
   working again and I'm a happy camper.
  
  I note you did not post what the actual solution was. You are the only
  source for that information.
  
  Just a reminder that the Elecraft reflector is not an Elecraft
  technical support email address. While Elecraft employees may post
  here from time to time to answer email on the reflector, there is no
  guarantee that Elecraft employees or Elecraft owners will answer a
  particular question. For Elecraft help from Elecraft employees one
  should use supp...@elecraft.com or k3supp...@elecraft.com with issues.
  These emails are answered during normal business days and hours.
  
  Reflector readers are not under contract to Elecraft to answer posts,
  nor is there a requirement that someone who does answer a reflector
  post must do so on the reflector.
  
  Personally, I rarely offer help across this or any other reflector any
  more, because it is too hard to keep track of helping email threads. I
  set up a new folder with an intelligent name for a corresponder with
  filters to put new mail from him/her in that folder. Not putting that
  help conversation on the reflector also avoids trash talk (both on and
  off reflector) from a certain kind of reflector user which otherwise
  is a real and ugly disincentive. I will sometimes convert to telephone
  conversations if the writing becomes too complex. All that goes on
  without a clue on a reflector I was there.
  
  I would say that it's up to the person who asked for help to post the
  eventual solution on the reflector. This makes the answer compact and
  only relates the answer that actually worked. And it cuts down on
  noise when someone is later searching archives for a solution.
  
  Clearly those who answered you off-reflector saw the post on the
  reflector and so it would seem to me that the Elecraft reflector
  worked well. But email correspondence is no match for a technical
  buddy with test equipment working right there with you on the physical
  equipment. :)
  
  As to the schematics, using the current Adobe Reader to display the
  schematic PDF's, the search function will find all the occurrences of
  a wire label very quickly. I have found Elecraft schematics **very
  easy** to navigate and use with Adobe Reader. I decidedly prefer
  Elecraft schems to the microscopic lines in the paper schematic of my
  FT1000MP, and having to pencil trace a wire as it snakes around the
  page.
  
  To find the KXV3, bring up the June, 2010 version of the K3 schematic
  PDF with a current Adobe Reader. Hit CTRL-F. This will bring up a blue
  find window at the upper right. Type in kxv3 and hit enter. You
  can repeat the search to see every instance of the characters kxv3
  (case insensitive) anywhere in the PDF.
  
  Huge help in chasing stuff in PDF schematics.
  
  73, and glad you found the trouble.
  
  Guy K2AV
 
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Re: [Elecraft] K3 with P4dragon DR-7800

2014-07-17 Thread Joe Subich, W4TV


 Perhaps, SCS modem is more interested in marine radio sector.

Of curse they are - they're in bed with certain ARRL board members to
take over the CW/RTTY bands for that commercial use (RM-11708).

 My original ideas was that KX3+ Pactor 3 or 4 modem will be a good
 combination for many communication purposes.

It may be - but get the KX3 type accepted for maritime service and
use it outside the amateur radio spectrum if you are going to use it
for non-amateur purposes (including maritime e-mail).

73,

   ... Joe, W4TV


On 2014-07-17 8:41 AM, Johnny Siu wrote:

Hello Gentleman,

In fact, I was annoyed by SCS modem.  I sent Martin of SCS modem emails and 
asked him about the connection between their modem and K3 or KX3.  SCS modem's 
answer was a simply 'no', no information available.  It was a very frustrated 
experience.  Perhaps, SCS modem is more interested in marine radio sector.

My original ideas was that KX3+ Pactor 3 or 4 modem will be a good combination 
for many communication purposes.

73

Johnny VR2XMC



  寄件人︰ Don Wilhelm w3...@embarqmail.com
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主題︰ Re: [Elecraft] K3 with P4dragon DR-7800


P-T,

If you follow the instructions frequently given on this reflector, you
will have proper power control and no flat-topping.
For soundcard Data modes, monitor the audio input level on the ALC
meter.  You should have 4 bars illuminated with the 5th bar flickering.
The first bars of the ALC meter do not actually indicate ALC - the onset
of ALC is at the 5th bar, so the lower bars are used like a VU-meter
to aid in adjusting the audio drive level.\

The closed loop method of power control used by the K3 requires that you
fully drive the audio and use the power knob to set the desired power
output.  Attempting to control the power with the audio drive will
result in power hunting.

73,
Don W3FPR

On 7/17/2014 6:09 AM, LA7NO wrote:

I found the problem.
Increased the settings of PSK/FSK Level in RMS Express TNC Setup to 600.
Now I've got full power out from the K3.
Guess I'll have to investigate proper MIC setting in order to avoid
flat-topping etc.

P-T

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Re: [Elecraft] K1-4 4 band version gone?

2014-07-17 Thread Phil Wheeler

Yes, Bruce, it looks like this:


 /T//he K1...A compact, high-performance CW
 rig that _you_ can build./

//

/HF operation is more fun than ever these 
days--five watts is all you need to work worldwide 
DX. That's why we've packed up to four bands into 
our affordable, easy-to-build K1-4 transceiver. 
You can order the K1 as either a four-band radio 
*(K1-4)* or a two-band radio *(K1-2)*.  The new 
four-band K1-4 covers 40, 30, 20, and either 17 or 
15 meters. (All band parts are supplied with the 
kit and 17 or 15M are chosen as the last band at 
build time.) You can also upgrade the K1-2 to a 
K1-4 by purchasing the four-band KFL1-4  module 
and replacing the KFL1-2 in your original K1-2. 
The KFL1-2 two band module covers your choice of 
two bands (80, 40, 30 20, 17 and 15 meters 
available). Combining a K1-4 with an extra KFL1-2 
band module on 80 + (15 or 17M) gives you all six 
bands on your K1! Both module types simply plug in 
to the K1's main board, internally, and you can 
swap either type in at any time./



needs an edit -- unless lack of a 4-band module is 
a temporary situation. Perhaps Elecraft will 
clarify when their day begins soon.


Phil W7OX

On 7/17/14, 4:13 AM, Bruce Beford wrote:

All this talk about the K1 backlight led me to look back at the K1 order
page. There is no option for a 4-band version, nor for the KFL1-4 4-band
filter module itself. Is this an oversight, or has the 4-band board been
discontinued? If so, when and why? Also if so, then the K1 description page
should be edited to remove reference to the new 4 band board... or at
least explain that it is no longer available.

Bruce
N1RX


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Re: [Elecraft] KX3 Receiver Problem

2014-07-17 Thread Scott Manthe
It would also be nice if people signed their messages with a name and 
callsign.


Scott, N9AA



On 7/17/14, 11:41 AM, Phil Wheeler wrote:
Folks, please quote enough of the message you reply to so we know the 
context. This is not a Yahoo group and I'm not interested in detouring 
to Nabble since often I read messages on my iPhone.


Thanks in advance!

73, Phil W7OX

On 7/17/14, 6:27 AM, aknisley wrote:

I have the same problem on a new KX3. Did you get it to work?



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Re: [Elecraft] K1-4 4 band version gone?

2014-07-17 Thread Gil G.
I emailed Elecraft about it and they said the 4-band module is unlikely to come 
back.

http://radiopreppers.com/index.php/topic,824.0.html

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On Jul 17, 2014, at 11:47 AM, Phil Wheeler w...@socal.rr.com wrote:

 needs an edit -- unless lack of a 4-band module is a temporary situation. 
 Perhaps Elecraft will clarify when their day begins soon.

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[Elecraft] Fwd: Re: K1-4 4 band version gone?

2014-07-17 Thread Phil Wheeler


Really? Thought I saw one.  Hmm ... I just took a 
look and it looks like you are right; maybe now 
you have to change out two band modules. If so my 
4-band K1 is now golden.


Perhaps Elecraft is phasing out the K1? Or maybe 
some part no longer available. It's been around a 
while: I built S/N #18 during my K2 process.


Adding the backlight mod this weekend if it 
arrives in time. And I'm going for the bright 
option: 0.006 Amps vs. 0.010 Amps? 4 mA won't 
shorten my operating time on batteries much!


Phil W7OX

On 7/17/14, 4:13 AM, Bruce Beford wrote:

All this talk about the K1 backlight led me to look back at the K1 order
page. There is no option for a 4-band version, nor for the KFL1-4 4-band
filter module itself. Is this an oversight, or has the 4-band board been
discontinued? If so, when and why? Also if so, then the K1 description page
should be edited to remove reference to the new 4 band board... or at
least explain that it is no longer available.

Bruce
N1RX


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Re: [Elecraft] K3 Audio: from OK to superior

2014-07-17 Thread Walter Underwood
If you are OK with open back headphones, the Grado SR-60 ($80) has been the 
best deal in audio for a long time.  You can turn headphones into a headset 
with the ModMic add-on boom mic ($50).

http://www.modmic.com/

wunder
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CM87wj
http://observer.wunderwood.org/

On Jul 17, 2014, at 8:19 AM, Ignacy n...@arrl.net wrote:

 I use Yamaha CM500 with K3. It is wearing out so I started looking at
 alternatives. Yesterday I connected Bose OE ($100).  The sound quality
 changed from OK or a bit harsh to very smooth, like from Chevy to Cadillac.  
 A pleasure to listen to.
 
 I thought that headphones are headphones and their main differences are
 frequencies characteristics, sensitivity + fit. However, with OE the sound
 quality is greatly improved. Any idea why?
 
 Seems choosing $40 headsets with $3k radio is not be the best idea. 
 
 If only they had a headset
 
 Ignacy, NO9E
 
 
 
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Re: [Elecraft] K3 Audio: from OK to superior

2014-07-17 Thread Bill W2BLC

Where for $80?

Bill W2BLC K-Line

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Re: [Elecraft] K3 Audio: from OK to superior

2014-07-17 Thread Walter Underwood
On Jul 17, 2014, at 9:36 AM, Bill W2BLC w2...@nycap.rr.com wrote:

 Where for $80?
 Bill W2BLC K-Line

I presume this is a question about the Grado SR-60. The SR-60e model was just 
introduced and is out of stock in many places. The list price is $79. I have 
the original SR-60 model, which was $60 about 15 years ago. I’m on my third set 
of foam ear pads.

http://www.gradolabs.com/headphones/prestige-series/item/2-sr60e
http://www.headphone.com/products/grado-sr-60e

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Re: [Elecraft] K3 Audio: from OK to superior

2014-07-17 Thread Eric Ross
If you are going to spend that much, you might as well get the Proset
K2.  Great listening, comfortable, and constantly great audio reports
from others.

http://www.elecraft.com/MD2/proset.htm

Eric
wb7sde

On Thu, Jul 17, 2014, at 09:09 AM, Walter Underwood wrote:
 If you are OK with open back headphones, the Grado SR-60 ($80) has been
 the best deal in audio for a long time.  You can turn headphones into a
 headset with the ModMic add-on boom mic ($50).
 
 http://www.modmic.com/
 
 wunder
 K6WRU
 CM87wj
 http://observer.wunderwood.org/
 
 On Jul 17, 2014, at 8:19 AM, Ignacy n...@arrl.net wrote:
 
  I use Yamaha CM500 with K3. It is wearing out so I started looking at
  alternatives. Yesterday I connected Bose OE ($100).  The sound quality
  changed from OK or a bit harsh to very smooth, like from Chevy to Cadillac. 
   
  A pleasure to listen to.
  
  I thought that headphones are headphones and their main differences are
  frequencies characteristics, sensitivity + fit. However, with OE the sound
  quality is greatly improved. Any idea why?
  
  Seems choosing $40 headsets with $3k radio is not be the best idea. 
  
  If only they had a headset
  
  Ignacy, NO9E
  
  
  
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Re: [Elecraft] K1-4 4 band version gone?

2014-07-17 Thread Bruce Beford
This is sad news indeed. I have built a few K1s, and repaired a few for
others. The 4 band board made for a very capable rig, without the swapping
that the 2 band version requires. A redesign/reintroduction would be nice,
but I imagine it's primarily a business decision, rather than strictly an
engineering one.
-Bruce/ N1RX

 I emailed Elecraft about it and they said the 4-band module is unlikely to
 come back.
 http://radiopreppers.com/index.php/topic,824.0.html
Gil.



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Re: [Elecraft] K3 receiver troubleshooting

2014-07-17 Thread Eric Ross
The answer was obvious and I was dense. 

Thank you,
Eric, wb7sde

On Thu, Jul 17, 2014, at 10:29 AM, Nr4c wrote:
 How about the XG3?  
 
 Sent from my iPhone
 ...nr4c. bill
 
 
  On Jul 17, 2014, at 11:43 AM, Eric Ross e...@evross.com wrote:
  
  Just curious.  What does anyone recommend for a signal generator to use
  for this kind of diagnostic process.  I am looking for something fairly
  low cost as I hope I won't be doing this very often.
  
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Re: [Elecraft] K1-4 4 band version gone?

2014-07-17 Thread Phil Wheeler
Bummer -- and Lisa's exact words from that link 
were more definite and final:


/The 4-band board was discontinued due to a part 
availability issue that was crucial to the 
functionality of the KF1-4. So no, it will not be 
coming back sorry to say./


The 4-band K1 is a really nice, small QRP radio -- 
with 5 Watts. Definitely a better CW receiver than 
the KX1 (4-pole filter, plenty of audio, etc.) and 
a more capable transmitter. Of course, not the 
freq coverage of the KX1 and not as tiny or trail 
friendly, but a very nice rig.


If I had to sell my KX1 or my K1 it would be the 
KX1. My K1 would make a capable 40-30-20-15 qrp CW 
based station, particularly after adding one of my 
audio filters.  KX3 is, of course, a far better 
option and I have one; but it is larger and much 
more expensive -- plus it's not a melt solder and 
wind toroid kit.


73, Phil

On 7/17/14, 8:55 AM, Gil G. wrote:

I emailed Elecraft about it and they said the 4-band module is unlikely to come 
back.

http://radiopreppers.com/index.php/topic,824.0.html

Gil.


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[Elecraft] K2 Serial 3885 I now have a working K2, thanks to you guys

2014-07-17 Thread Gareth - M5KVK
I couple of weeks ago I came on here about a VCO problem I was experiencing 
when testing the VCO on my K2. The solution was a hard resent of the K2. Since 
then, it’s been plain sailing. The only piece I “lost” after the 11 years this 
has sat in a box waiting to be built was the 20m bandpass filter trimmer 
capacitor.

I now have a working CW only K2 and the next task is to build the KSB2 and 
other options.

73, M5KVK Gareth
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[Elecraft] WTB: Elecraft KFL1-4 K1 band board

2014-07-17 Thread Bruce Beford
Looking for a 4-band filter board for an Elecraft K1. Working or
non-working. Please contact me off-list with details and asking price
w/shipping.

Thanks in advance,

Bruce/N1RX

Newport NH

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Re: [Elecraft] K1-4 4 band version gone?

2014-07-17 Thread Phil Hystad
And, here I was planning to get a 4-band K1 this fall.  Yes, real Bummer.

So, I figure that I could do one of the following:

 (1)Buy THREE 2-band K1 radios (saves on interchanging other bands).

 (2)Buy the Two band option board and get along with 4 bands.

 (3)Stick with just a 2-band K1.

I am going with the obvious, option (1).  OK, just kidding.  Option (2)  But at 
first I am starting just with Option (1).  I wonder if there is a science 
behind the logic in which two bands to choose to go together.

73, phil, K7PEH


On Jul 17, 2014, at 10:46 AM, Phil Wheeler w...@socal.rr.com wrote:

 Bummer -- and Lisa's exact words from that link were more definite and final:
 
 /The 4-band board was discontinued due to a part availability issue that was 
 crucial to the functionality of the KF1-4. So no, it will not be coming back 
 sorry to say./
 
 The 4-band K1 is a really nice, small QRP radio -- with 5 Watts. Definitely a 
 better CW receiver than the KX1 (4-pole filter, plenty of audio, etc.) and a 
 more capable transmitter. Of course, not the freq coverage of the KX1 and not 
 as tiny or trail friendly, but a very nice rig.
 
 If I had to sell my KX1 or my K1 it would be the KX1. My K1 would make a 
 capable 40-30-20-15 qrp CW based station, particularly after adding one of my 
 audio filters.  KX3 is, of course, a far better option and I have one; but it 
 is larger and much more expensive -- plus it's not a melt solder and wind 
 toroid kit.
 
 73, Phil
 
 On 7/17/14, 8:55 AM, Gil G. wrote:
 I emailed Elecraft about it and they said the 4-band module is unlikely to 
 come back.
 
 http://radiopreppers.com/index.php/topic,824.0.html
 
 Gil.
 
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Re: [Elecraft] K2 Serial 3885 I now have a working K2, thanks to you guys

2014-07-17 Thread Phil Wheeler
Good for you, Gareth. Building my K2/100 #380 over 
about a four year period as elements became 
available may have been the most fun I've had in 
60 years of ham radio. I'm still updating it 
(pretty much done with that, now) and adding 
things (like the MAB) for more functionality.


Have fun!

Phil W7OX

On 7/17/14, 11:06 AM, Gareth - M5KVK wrote:

I couple of weeks ago I came on here about a VCO problem I was experiencing 
when testing the VCO on my K2. The solution was a hard resent of the K2. Since 
then, it’s been plain sailing. The only piece I “lost” after the 11 years this 
has sat in a box waiting to be built was the 20m bandpass filter trimmer 
capacitor.

I now have a working CW only K2 and the next task is to build the KSB2 and 
other options.

73, M5KVK Gareth


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[Elecraft] K3 weak rx audio when AFX is NOT active?

2014-07-17 Thread Sam Morgan

I just added a different set of stereo amplified speakers to my K3 #4123.

Yesterday all was ok, if I switched from AFX active to OFF,
my volume levels remained the same, just the sound changed.

Today I was listening with the AFX BIN active (my normal setting)
and then I switched the AFX OFF, and my volume level dropped way down.

If I listen through my headphones, the volume level stays the same.

Have I killed my audio out?

Why would volume still be ok on both speakers and headphones when the 
AFX is active if it the dreaded 'killed my speaker amp IC chip' problem?

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Re: [Elecraft] K1-4 4 band version gone?

2014-07-17 Thread EricJ

Bad news...for those who don't have one.

The K1-4 was my introduction to both Elecraft and purpose-built QRP 
rigs. It's easily in the top 3 favorite radios I have owned in half a 
century. I think Gil called it a cute mini K2 in the link below, and 
that's a pretty good description. It's big enough to operate like a 
real radio in the shack. It's small enough to take anywhere. It tunes 
smoothly and sounds exceptionally good. It has everything you need for 
CW and nothing you don't.


The KX1 isn't a good substitute for the K1, in my opinion. It's a very 
specialized rig with lots of compromises for those who need minimum size 
and weight. After the initial fun of a new rig, my KX1 has been sitting 
on a shelf with very little use. Whenever I grab it to go camping, I 
pack the K1 as well just in case. Then I end up using the K1 the 
entire trip. If I was a backpacker, the roles would probably be 
reversed, though.


Anyway, re: K1-4. I got mine, and I'm KEEPING it. (hi)

Eric
KE6US







On 7/17/2014 8:55 AM, Gil G. wrote:

I emailed Elecraft about it and they said the 4-band module is unlikely to come 
back.

http://radiopreppers.com/index.php/topic,824.0.html

Gil.
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On Jul 17, 2014, at 11:47 AM, Phil Wheeler w...@socal.rr.com wrote:


needs an edit -- unless lack of a 4-band module is a temporary situation. 
Perhaps Elecraft will clarify when their day begins soon.

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[Elecraft] KX3 seems pretty issue free :-]

2014-07-17 Thread dw
I think Eric and Wayne are pretty much genius's when it comes to
designing radios.
So thrilled for what they've done with Elecraft!!

I've been watching the list since the KX3's went to production, and I
see very few if any user troubles posted.
Good times for ham radio!!
N1BBR :-]
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Re: [Elecraft] K1-4 4 band version gone?

2014-07-17 Thread Don Wilhelm
The part that has become unavailable is the blue trimmer capacitors that 
are used for tuning the bandpass filters.  That does *not* spell demise 
of the K1, but only the 4 band board.


Yes, sorry that it is gone, but the K1 with a 2 band board and an extra 
2 band board will give you 4 band capability - and you can mix and match 
the 4 bands in any combination of 2 bands that you want. In other words, 
the choices are more flexible than with the 4 band board.


73,
Don W3FPR

On 7/17/2014 1:46 PM, Phil Wheeler wrote:
Bummer -- and Lisa's exact words from that link were more definite and 
final:


/The 4-band board was discontinued due to a part availability issue 
that was crucial to the functionality of the KF1-4. So no, it will not 
be coming back sorry to say./




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Re: [Elecraft] K1-4 4 band version gone?

2014-07-17 Thread Wayne Burdick
Hi Bruce,

The 4-band module requires extremely low-temperature-coefficient trimmer 
capacitors because of its narrow-band pre-mix and RF band-pass filters. The 
last source for these exotic trimmers dried up recently. A redesign using 
higher-TC trimmers might be possible, but the filters would end up being 
triple-tuned, which would force the use of SMD components throughout, and 
tuning the filters would then be very difficult without a spectrum analyzer. 

Sales volume for the K1 has decreased in recent years due to the KX1 (which is 
smaller and has a DDS VFO), and the KX3 (which covers all bands, all modes, 
with up to 12 W output and has a much more capable auto tuner, nicer user 
interface, etc.). So the cost of a redesign wouldn't be recovered.

That said, for the time being we're continuing to offer the two-band version 
and the other options (KAT1 ATU, KBT1 battery pack, etc.). The K1 is one of our 
full kits, and has a bit of a fan club of its own.

We'll update the website to reflect the change in option availability.

73,
Wayne
N6KR


On Jul 17, 2014, at 4:13 AM, Bruce Beford bef...@myfairpoint.net wrote:

 All this talk about the K1 backlight led me to look back at the K1 order
 page. There is no option for a 4-band version, nor for the KFL1-4 4-band
 filter module itself. Is this an oversight, or has the 4-band board been
 discontinued? If so, when and why? Also if so, then the K1 description page
 should be edited to remove reference to the new 4 band board... or at
 least explain that it is no longer available.
 
 Bruce
 N1RX



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Re: [Elecraft] K1-4 4 band version gone?

2014-07-17 Thread John Cooper
What is the crucial part that caused this? Inquiring minds wanna know.

WT5Y


Sent from my Cricket smartphone

 Original message 
From: EricJ eric_c...@hotmail.com 
Date: 07/17/2014  13:32  (GMT-06:00) 
To: elecraft@mailman.qth.net 
Subject: Re: [Elecraft] K1-4 4 band version gone? 
 
Bad news...for those who don't have one.

The K1-4 was my introduction to both Elecraft and purpose-built QRP 
rigs. It's easily in the top 3 favorite radios I have owned in half a 
century. I think Gil called it a cute mini K2 in the link below, and 
that's a pretty good description. It's big enough to operate like a 
real radio in the shack. It's small enough to take anywhere. It tunes 
smoothly and sounds exceptionally good. It has everything you need for 
CW and nothing you don't.

The KX1 isn't a good substitute for the K1, in my opinion. It's a very 
specialized rig with lots of compromises for those who need minimum size 
and weight. After the initial fun of a new rig, my KX1 has been sitting 
on a shelf with very little use. Whenever I grab it to go camping, I 
pack the K1 as well just in case. Then I end up using the K1 the 
entire trip. If I was a backpacker, the roles would probably be 
reversed, though.

Anyway, re: K1-4. I got mine, and I'm KEEPING it. (hi)

Eric
KE6US







On 7/17/2014 8:55 AM, Gil G. wrote:
 I emailed Elecraft about it and they said the 4-band module is unlikely to 
 come back.

 http://radiopreppers.com/index.php/topic,824.0.html

 Gil.
 --
 PGP Key: http://keskydee.com/gil.asc

 On Jul 17, 2014, at 11:47 AM, Phil Wheeler w...@socal.rr.com wrote:

 needs an edit -- unless lack of a 4-band module is a temporary situation. 
 Perhaps Elecraft will clarify when their day begins soon.
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Re: [Elecraft] K1-4 4 band version gone?

2014-07-17 Thread Don Wilhelm
The K1 can remember the frequency offset settings for 6 bands, so having 
3 2-band boards is quite practical.  You get to choose which 2 bands go 
together on one board for most of your operating pleasure.


73,
Don W3FPR

On 7/17/2014 2:14 PM, Phil Hystad wrote:

And, here I was planning to get a 4-band K1 this fall.  Yes, real Bummer.

So, I figure that I could do one of the following:

  (1)Buy THREE 2-band K1 radios (saves on interchanging other bands).

  (2)Buy the Two band option board and get along with 4 bands.

  (3)Stick with just a 2-band K1.

I am going with the obvious, option (1).  OK, just kidding.  Option (2)  But at 
first I am starting just with Option (1).  I wonder if there is a science 
behind the logic in which two bands to choose to go together.




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Re: [Elecraft] K3 weak rx audio when AFX is NOT active?

2014-07-17 Thread Don Wilhelm

Sam,

Try re-positioning your speakers a bit.  I suspect what you may be 
hearing is acoustical cancellation of the output from the speakers. You 
may not hear that the same in the headphones.


73,
Don W3FPR

On 7/17/2014 2:16 PM, Sam Morgan wrote:

I just added a different set of stereo amplified speakers to my K3 #4123.

Yesterday all was ok, if I switched from AFX active to OFF,
my volume levels remained the same, just the sound changed.

Today I was listening with the AFX BIN active (my normal setting)
and then I switched the AFX OFF, and my volume level dropped way down.

If I listen through my headphones, the volume level stays the same.

Have I killed my audio out?

Why would volume still be ok on both speakers and headphones when the 
AFX is active if it the dreaded 'killed my speaker amp IC chip' problem?


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Re: [Elecraft] K1-4 4 band version gone?

2014-07-17 Thread Bruce Beford
Thanks for taking the time to reply with the details, Wayne. It's a shame. I
(and many others) feel the K1 has some advantages over the KX1, such as the
analog VFO, higher output power, and 4-pole filtering. It's internal antenna
matching unit also offers more tuning range than the KX1. I have also built
a 160m/80m 2 band board for mine. 

I have built and own all the Elecraft rigs, and each has provided great
enjoyment, each has it's strong points.

Time marches own, it would be wonderful if a 4-band redesign solution could
be found, using modern components. Perhaps a pre-built, pre-tuned SMD based
board. But, I imagine the potential sales volume would not justify the
costs. Too bad.

Bruce/N1RX

-Original Message-
From: Wayne Burdick [mailto:n...@elecraft.com] 
Sent: Thursday, July 17, 2014 2:43 PM
To: Bruce Beford
Cc: elecraft@mailman.qth.net
Subject: Re: K1-4 4 band version gone?

Hi Bruce,

The 4-band module requires extremely low-temperature-coefficient trimmer
capacitors because of its narrow-band pre-mix and RF band-pass filters. The
last source for these exotic trimmers dried up recently. A redesign using
higher-TC trimmers might be possible, but the filters would end up being
triple-tuned, which would force the use of SMD components throughout, and
tuning the filters would then be very difficult without a spectrum analyzer.


Sales volume for the K1 has decreased in recent years due to the KX1 (which
is smaller and has a DDS VFO), and the KX3 (which covers all bands, all
modes, with up to 12 W output and has a much more capable auto tuner, nicer
user interface, etc.). So the cost of a redesign wouldn't be recovered.

That said, for the time being we're continuing to offer the two-band version
and the other options (KAT1 ATU, KBT1 battery pack, etc.). The K1 is one of
our full kits, and has a bit of a fan club of its own.

We'll update the website to reflect the change in option availability.

73,
Wayne
N6KR


On Jul 17, 2014, at 4:13 AM, Bruce Beford bef...@myfairpoint.net wrote:

 All this talk about the K1 backlight led me to look back at the K1 order
 page. There is no option for a 4-band version, nor for the KFL1-4 4-band
 filter module itself. Is this an oversight, or has the 4-band board been
 discontinued? If so, when and why? Also if so, then the K1 description
page
 should be edited to remove reference to the new 4 band board... or at
 least explain that it is no longer available.
 
 Bruce
 N1RX






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Re: [Elecraft] K1-4 4 band version gone?

2014-07-17 Thread Mike Morrow
Wayne wrote:

 The 4-band module requires extremely low-temperature-coefficient
 trimmer capacitors because of its narrow-band pre-mix and RF band-pass
 filters. The last source for these exotic trimmers dried up recently.

If all the other parts of the KFL1-4 were still stocked, perhaps those
original white ceramic trimmer capacitors could be used again.  I used
my KFL1-4 for two years with those because I did not want to pull and
rebuild the KFL1-4 I built in 2001 after the blue trimmers were made
available.  Yes, I did need to re-align my KFL1-4 about every six months
when the original white capacitors were still in place.

This would be an unfortunate compromise, but I'd rather have even the
original KFL1-4 with those problematic trimmers than use two KFL1-2
filters to get four bands.  I used two KFL1-2 boards (40/20m and 30/15m)
prior to the availability of the KFL1-4.

 Sales volume for the K1 has decreased in recent years due to the KX1
 (which is smaller and has a DDS VFO)...

I greatly prefer the performance and physical form of the K1 over that
of the KX1.  I never bought the BS that some KX1 owners slung around
after KX1 introduction that the KX1 replaced the K1.  Did it??  Try
using that KX1 on 15 or 17 meters.  Even for backpacking, the K1 is a
far better radio to cart along if ham CW band RF performance is valued.
The K1 is also less quirky to build than a 80/40/30/20m full-house KX1.

 ...and the KX3...

I believe that there are a number of advantages of the K1 over the KX3
when the extreme sophistication of the KX3 is not required.  The K1 is
much lighter, less bulky, much lower power consumption, and is incredibly
easier to fully master than the KX3 is at even the neophyte level.

I purchased the K1 after seeing its introduction at Dayton 2000, and then
waited the six months for delivery of #175 in November 2000.  After almost
14 years it remains my favorite and most utilized HF ham rig owned in 46
years as a ham.  It is a very very good radio, and I greatly admire Wayne's
design for this classic QRP rig.  Thanks, Wayne.

 So the cost of a redesign wouldn't be recovered.

I've always thought that the K1-line would be the first to be discontinued.
I am pleasantly surprised that the *start* of that is happening *only* now.
It was a very good run for a great QRP radio...those 14 years!  If you don't
have one, get one with a KFL1-2 is still available.

73,
Mike / KK5F
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[Elecraft] KX1 Receiver issue

2014-07-17 Thread Len
I have had my KX1 for close to ten years now, and it has been a great traveling 
companion with lots of fun QSO’s.  Two nights ago, I got the rig all hooked up 
and discovered that no audio was emanating from the headphones. The AF gain 
control, filter pot, and RF gain control made no difference.  I hooked up the 
paddle and found that the TX is working fine, and I could hear the side tone 
through the headphones.

To see if a loud signal had any effect on the KX1 receiver, I put a dummy load 
on my K3 and sent some test tones, none of which were being received at close 
proximity.  This problem occurs across all 3 bands.  The antenna tuner is 
working, and my SWR meter show a perfect match.

Any suggestions as to where I should start troubleshooting?  Tnx.  Len, K6LEN
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Re: [Elecraft] K3 Audio: from OK to superior

2014-07-17 Thread Jim Brown

On 7/17/2014 8:19 AM, Ignacy wrote:

I thought that headphones are headphones and their main differences are
frequencies characteristics, sensitivity + fit. However, with OE the sound
quality is greatly improved. Any idea why?


Several possibilities.

How old are you? How much hearing sensitivity have you lost due to 
exposure to loud radios, loud music, noise at work, use of firearms? The 
audio output stages in Elecraft radios are not designed to produce the 
very high levels needed to overcome a lot of hearing loss, and may run 
into distortion when asked to do so. Wayne designs them this way to 
minimize current drain -- all of his radios are designed to be good 
back-packing radios too.


I worked in pro audio for a lot of years, so I have hearing loss both 
from that and from my years in ham radio. The output stages in my 
Elecraft radios are good enough for my hearing loss, and my expectations 
of what a ham rig should do, but they may not be good enough for everyone.


All headphones are not created equal, even good ones. Their load 
impedance and voltage sensitivity can vary over a wide range. The Bose 
headphones may have greater voltage sensitivity, so the Elecraft output 
stage doesn't have to work as hard.


One thing that all of us can easily do is use RXEQ to get rid of low end 
noise that is of no use for communications, but burns some audio 
headroom. I have RXEQ in my KX3 set to max cut on the three lowest 
bands. Cutting the two or three lowest bands on a K3 would probably help 
headroom by about 2 dB.


73, Jim K9YC
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Re: [Elecraft] K3 weak rx audio when AFX is NOT active?

2014-07-17 Thread Jim Brown

On 7/17/2014 11:16 AM, Sam Morgan wrote:
Why would volume still be ok on both speakers and headphones when the 
AFX is active if it the dreaded 'killed my speaker amp IC chip' problem? 


Sam,

Is it possible that the plug is not wired correctly?

73, Jim K9YC
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Re: [Elecraft] K1-4 4 band version gone?

2014-07-17 Thread Jessie Oberreuter


 Here's another thought that perhaps one of us could put together: 
give up the internal battery space for a considerably larger filter board 
that could be used to allow room for additional 2 band style filters 
that don't share components (and, thus, don't need high-tolerance parts). 
No new parts would be needed; the existing 2-band parts kits, and the 
controller from the 4-band board would serve.
 This would also open the door for selecting a completely arbitrary 
set of four bands (eg 15/20/40/80) as the filters would, again, be 
completely independent of each other.
 I'll have to give mine a close look for mechanical feasibility when I 
get home.  -kb7psg




On Thu, 17 Jul 2014, Wayne Burdick wrote:

The 4-band module requires extremely low-temperature-coefficient trimmer 
capacitors because of its narrow-band pre-mix and RF band-pass filters. 
The last source for these exotic trimmers dried up recently. A redesign 
using higher-TC trimmers might be possible, but the filters would end up 
being triple-tuned, which would force the use of SMD components 
throughout, and tuning the filters would then be very difficult without 
a spectrum analyzer.


Sales volume for the K1 has decreased in recent years due to the KX1 
(which is smaller and has a DDS VFO), and the KX3 (which covers all 
bands, all modes, with up to 12 W output and has a much more capable 
auto tuner, nicer user interface, etc.). So the cost of a redesign 
wouldn't be recovered.


That said, for the time being we're continuing to offer the two-band 
version and the other options (KAT1 ATU, KBT1 battery pack, etc.). The 
K1 is one of our full kits, and has a bit of a fan club of its own.


We'll update the website to reflect the change in option availability.

73,
Wayne
N6KR

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Re: [Elecraft] K3 weak rx audio when AFX is NOT active?

2014-07-17 Thread Sam Morgan

Problem solved!

it seems a brand new 4' long 3.5 male to 3.5 male cable was the culprit, 
when I removed it from the mix, the problem went away. Some how Murphy 
managed to mess with the cable, and my feeble mind. It went from out of 
the box working one day, to weird failures the next day, all in only 8 
hours, sigh.


With the recent 'I blew up my audio chip' thread fresh in my mind, 
paranoia took over, and I feared the worse, due to the loud pop I hear 
when I turn on/off the new amplified M-Audio AV40 speakers, so figured I 
had killed something.


It's still very weird that it would change/fail only with the AFX on/off 
setting?


I will be purchasing/installing the K3AUDPROTMDKT in the near future!

http://www.elecraft.com/order_form_parts.htm#K3%20Parts

quote
Even though the K3’s audio output I.C. has internal protection, a small 
number have failed under extreme conditions such as a dead short across 
the speaker output. This modification adds a 1-ohm resistance to each 
speaker output that tests show prevents failure even under these 
conditions. Some soldering of leaded parts is required to make this 
modification.


Included with all new K3s shipped after mid May 2013.
/quote

$9.95 seems like a very cheap price to pay for the piece of mind that a 
bit more insurance against a potential Audio IC failure. My K3 is of 
2009 vintage, so it doesn't have it installed as of yet.


--
GB  73
K5OAI
Sam Morgan

On 7/17/2014 1:49 PM, Don Wilhelm wrote:

Sam,

Try re-positioning your speakers a bit.  I suspect what you may be
hearing is acoustical cancellation of the output from the speakers. You
may not hear that the same in the headphones.

73,
Don W3FPR



On 7/17/2014 2:16 PM, Sam Morgan wrote:

I just added a different set of stereo amplified speakers to my K3 #4123.

Yesterday all was ok, if I switched from AFX active to OFF,
my volume levels remained the same, just the sound changed.

Today I was listening with the AFX BIN active (my normal setting)
and then I switched the AFX OFF, and my volume level dropped way down.

If I listen through my headphones, the volume level stays the same.

Have I killed my audio out?

Why would volume still be ok on both speakers and headphones when the
AFX is active if it the dreaded 'killed my speaker amp IC chip' problem?


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Re: [Elecraft] K1-4 4 band version gone?

2014-07-17 Thread Mike Morrow
Don wrote:

The K1 can remember the frequency offset settings for 6 bands...

The K1 remembers the frequency display calibration settings (OFS)
for all *nine* HF bands between 160m and 10m (60m is excluded),
and automatically uses the one previously stored for a particular
band when that band gets assigned to a filter board's b1 or b2.  

 ...so having 3 2-band boards is quite practical.  You get to
 choose which 2 bands go together on one board for most of your
 operating pleasure.

It is worth noting that a small problem will arise if multiple
KFL1-2 boards are built that duplicate one of the bands...such
as a board for 40/20 and a board for 40/15, both for the same K1.
The K1 MCU can remember only *one* frequency display calibration
setting per band.  In the example I use above, one of those two
boards will have some calibration error on 40m unless the 40m
heterodyne crystal frequencies of both filter boards are very
nearly the same frequency.  They'll likely be close enough.

Mike / KK5F
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Re: [Elecraft] K1-4 4 band version gone?

2014-07-17 Thread Mike Morrow
Jessie wrote:

 I'll have to give mine a close look for mechanical feasibility when I 
 get home.

It is not feasible.

Mike / KK5F
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Re: [Elecraft] KX1 Receiver issue

2014-07-17 Thread Don Wilhelm

Len,

If you can hear sidetone, the audio amplifier is working, that means you 
can start with the Product detector and/or the muting transistors.
Check the voltage on the gate of Q2 and Q3 - if it is zero (or very 
low), then check U1 pin 6  (the /MUTE signal) - If that pin is also low, 
you may have a bad output from the firmware IC - best check is to 
substitute another firmware IC.


If the /MUTE line is OK, then try tapping on pin 1 of U5 - do you hear 
any clicks in the headphone?  If so, the product detector is working.  
If you have something to measure RF voltage, measure the RF voltage at 
U5 pin 6 - you should have at least 200 mV peak to peak or 40 mV rms (as 
read by an RF Probe).


The next place to check is U6 pin 4 - the output of the Rcv Mixer. If 
you have nothing there, the only components between there and the 
product detector input is Q8 and the Xtal IF filter.


All OK so far, tap on U6 pin 1 (input to the RX Mixer).  If you have 
noise there, all but the front end if the RX is OK.  You can check the 
RF voltage level at pin 6 - like U5 pin 6, you should have at least 40 
mV rms or 200 mV peak to peak.


Still all well to that point - there is a possibility that Q7 is either 
shorted or conducting during receive.  Check the DC voltage on the base 
- it should be zero volts.
If you suspect Q7, it can be removed for receive (but not transmit).  If 
taking it out of the circuit restores receive, replace it.


Good luck,
73,
Don W3FPR

On 7/17/2014 3:55 PM, Len wrote:

I have had my KX1 for close to ten years now, and it has been a great traveling 
companion with lots of fun QSO’s.  Two nights ago, I got the rig all hooked up 
and discovered that no audio was emanating from the headphones. The AF gain 
control, filter pot, and RF gain control made no difference.  I hooked up the 
paddle and found that the TX is working fine, and I could hear the side tone 
through the headphones.

To see if a loud signal had any effect on the KX1 receiver, I put a dummy load 
on my K3 and sent some test tones, none of which were being received at close 
proximity.  This problem occurs across all 3 bands.  The antenna tuner is 
working, and my SWR meter show a perfect match.

Any suggestions as to where I should start troubleshooting?  Tnx.  Len, K6LEN



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Re: [Elecraft] K1-4 4band version gone?

2014-07-17 Thread Joe W2KJ
Howdy Fellow Elecrafters:

OK...it's so obvious even I figured it out.

Notice that we have a KX1 and a KX3??

What happened to the KX2??  Well, read on.

I predict the next new transceiver from Elecraft will render obsolete the K1-4 
and KX1 obsolete...it will be called, obviously,  the KX2.

It will be a CW only all band 160M-6M DDS VFO controlled Direct Conversion SDR 
ala the KX3 but much smaller.

Perfect for field use it will become the new rage of the SOTA and IOTA crowd as 
well as the QRP community in general that likes to take their rigs out for 
portable OPS.

OK Waynesorry I let the cat out of the bag but at times I am just so darn 
prescient it surprises me.

So, when can we expect the new KX2 to be available for order??

OK...OK...All of the above said with tongue firmly placed inside of 
cheek.but it is just too nice to think about.

I really wonder why the KX2 nomenclature has been skipped???

Am I on to something???  (large grin).

73, Joe W2KJ
I QRP, therefore I am


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Re: [Elecraft] K1-4 4band version gone?

2014-07-17 Thread Wayne Burdick
Hi Joe,

Nice try, but...not :)  The KX3 *is* our SOTA/IOTA/FD rig, and we're all busy 
getting the new options out the door (PX3, KX3-2M/4M) and associated new 
firmware.

Wayne
N6KR


On Jul 17, 2014, at 1:50 PM, Joe W2KJ w...@bellsouth.net wrote:

 Howdy Fellow Elecrafters:
 
 OK...it's so obvious even I figured it out.
 
 Notice that we have a KX1 and a KX3??
 
 What happened to the KX2??  Well, read on.
 
 I predict the next new transceiver from Elecraft will render obsolete the 
 K1-4 and KX1 obsolete...it will be called, obviously,  the KX2.
 
 It will be a CW only all band 160M-6M DDS VFO controlled Direct Conversion 
 SDR ala the KX3 but much smaller.
 
 Perfect for field use it will become the new rage of the SOTA and IOTA crowd 
 as well as the QRP community in general that likes to take their rigs out for 
 portable OPS.
 
 OK Waynesorry I let the cat out of the bag but at times I am just so darn 
 prescient it surprises me.
 
 So, when can we expect the new KX2 to be available for order??
 
 OK...OK...All of the above said with tongue firmly placed inside of 
 cheek.but it is just too nice to think about.
 
 I really wonder why the KX2 nomenclature has been skipped???
 
 Am I on to something???  (large grin).
 
   73, Joe W2KJ
   I QRP, therefore I am


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Re: [Elecraft] K1-4 4band version gone?

2014-07-17 Thread Phil Hystad
Besides,

I would really be surprised if Elecraft to get a price point for the so-called 
KX2 to justify it.  I am thinking that it would be priced too close to the KX3. 
 I already have a KX1 for those times when my KX3 is not my travel choice.  
And, I don't need all those bands because my portable operations favor shorter 
wavelengths.

I would really like to see a 2-meter solid-state amp come out of Elecraft.

73, phil, K7PEH



On Jul 17, 2014, at 1:54 PM, Wayne Burdick n...@elecraft.com wrote:

 Hi Joe,
 
 Nice try, but...not :)  The KX3 *is* our SOTA/IOTA/FD rig, and we're all busy 
 getting the new options out the door (PX3, KX3-2M/4M) and associated new 
 firmware.
 
 Wayne
 N6KR
 
 
 On Jul 17, 2014, at 1:50 PM, Joe W2KJ w...@bellsouth.net wrote:
 
 Howdy Fellow Elecrafters:
 
 OK...it's so obvious even I figured it out.
 
 Notice that we have a KX1 and a KX3??
 
 What happened to the KX2??  Well, read on.
 
 I predict the next new transceiver from Elecraft will render obsolete the 
 K1-4 and KX1 obsolete...it will be called, obviously,  the KX2.
 
 It will be a CW only all band 160M-6M DDS VFO controlled Direct Conversion 
 SDR ala the KX3 but much smaller.
 
 Perfect for field use it will become the new rage of the SOTA and IOTA crowd 
 as well as the QRP community in general that likes to take their rigs out 
 for portable OPS.
 
 OK Waynesorry I let the cat out of the bag but at times I am just so 
 darn prescient it surprises me.
 
 So, when can we expect the new KX2 to be available for order??
 
 OK...OK...All of the above said with tongue firmly placed inside of 
 cheek.but it is just too nice to think about.
 
 I really wonder why the KX2 nomenclature has been skipped???
 
 Am I on to something???  (large grin).
 
  73, Joe W2KJ
  I QRP, therefore I am
 
 
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Re: [Elecraft] [KX3] Hardware

2014-07-17 Thread Wayne Burdick
Hi Clint,

Nearly all of the KX3's hardware is already stainless steel. We knew the rig 
would get a lot of outdoor use in places with salt air and Mai-Tai's, both 
equally corrosive.

The thumbscrews are the only exception; they're steel-zinc, but plated, and we 
used them on earlier products with good results. Even these would go to 
stainless steel if it ever became an issue.

73,
Wayne
N6KR


 On Wednesday January 2nd 2013 at 13:00:22 EST Clint Stark KI6SSN posted ...
 
 Has anyone heard anything about stainless / corrosion [resistant] hardware
 for the mighty KX3?



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Re: [Elecraft] K1-4 4 band version gone?

2014-07-17 Thread Wayne Burdick
Hi Mike,

I appreciate your thoughts on the K1. You're right -- it has a much simpler 
user interface than the KX3, and lower receive-mode current drain.

But, regarding size and weight:  The KX3 weighs only slightly more than the K1 
(1.5 vs. 1.4 lbs), and the KX3 is roughly 30% smaller than the K1 (1.7 x 3.4 x 
7.4 vs. 2.2 x 5.2 x 5.6). New technology and all that

73,
Wayne
N6KR


On Jul 17, 2014, at 12:54 PM, Mike Morrow k...@earthlink.net wrote:

 ...The K1 is much lighter, less bulky, much lower power consumption, and is 
 incredibly
 easier to fully master than the KX3 is at even the neophyte level.




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Re: [Elecraft] K1-4 4 band version gone?

2014-07-17 Thread Gil G.
On Thu, 2014-07-17 at 11:14 -0700, Phil Hystad wrote:
 And, here I was planning to get a 4-band K1 this fall.  Yes, real Bummer.

I was about to buy one, sold my first, what a mistake!
I vote for a redesign as well!

Gil.

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