Re: [Elecraft] [K3] autotuner for K3 with AL-811 amp (KAT500 or other) / random wire antenna

2014-11-06 Thread Rick Bates, WA6NHC
Same thing here except my doublet is a stealthy Extended Double Zepp cut for 80 
meters (340' long).  Works on all bands (6 countries on 160; 200+ countries on 
the other bands)... 100' of 450 ohm line, 4:1 common mode choke, some coax and 
the K line is happy.  I just wish the oaks were taller, 30' above dirt just 
isn't enough height.

Rick, WA6NHC

iPad = small keypad = typos = sorry ;-)

> On Nov 6, 2014, at 7:29 PM, James Bennett  wrote:
> 
> John, 
> 
> Don's suggestion is for sure the way to go. My K3, KPA500, and KAT500 sit 
> next to each other on my desk. I run about ten feet of RG-8 to the outside 
> where I have my 4:1 balun, and then 110 feet of 450-ohm ladder line to my 
> doublet at the other end of my property.
> 
> Jim / W6JHB
> 
> Jim Bennett / W6JHB
> Folsom, CA
> 
>> On Nov 6, 2014, at 11:32 AM, Don Wilhelm  wrote:
>> 
>> John,
>> 
>> Use the 15' coax, but make sure it is low loss RG-8 size coax and all should 
>> be well.
>> At HF, there will be little loss in that 15' run.
>> 
>> 73,
>> Don W3FPR
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Re: [Elecraft] [K3] autotuner for K3 with AL-811 amp (KAT500 or other) / random wire antenna

2014-11-06 Thread James Bennett
John, 

Don's suggestion is for sure the way to go. My K3, KPA500, and KAT500 sit next 
to each other on my desk. I run about ten feet of RG-8 to the outside where I 
have my 4:1 balun, and then 110 feet of 450-ohm ladder line to my doublet at 
the other end of my property.

Jim / W6JHB

Jim Bennett / W6JHB
Folsom, CA

> On Nov 6, 2014, at 11:32 AM, Don Wilhelm  wrote:
> 
> John,
> 
> Use the 15' coax, but make sure it is low loss RG-8 size coax and all should 
> be well.
> At HF, there will be little loss in that 15' run.
> 
> 73,
> Don W3FPR
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Re: [Elecraft] [K3] autotuner for K3 with AL-811 amp (KAT500 or other) / random wire antenna

2014-11-06 Thread wa9fvp
I just built my kpa500 and installed it today.  I use a hamemade "true
balanced" tuner and feed it with 450 ohm latter line all the way to the
shack.  So far on 40 meters I had no problems.  The kpa500 is next to my K3.



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Re: [Elecraft] KXUSB with Linux

2014-11-06 Thread Phil Wheeler

Google ia32-libs. You may find some ideas.

Phil W7OX

On 11/6/14 12:42 PM, Darren Long wrote:

Unfortunately the ia32-libs package is not available in Ubuntu 14.04 on arch
x86_64.

This is a bit of a problem for me with my desktop linux computer.  I can still
use an older version of Ubuntu x86_64 on my laptop with kx3util but that version
of Ubuntu is unsupported now and will have to be updated to something more
modern very soon.

When will a 64-bit release be provided for kx3util? It really is needed now.

There's not much point releasing firmware upgrades for radios if you don't
update the tools to run with modern OS releases and 32-bit is so 20th century :P

Cheers,

Darren, G0HWW

On 06/11/14 20:23, David Shoaf wrote:

Hi Lyn,

Nate is on the right track.

Here is a list of the required Linux libraries and facilities that must be
present and enabled for Elecraft Utilities to operate successfully on that
platform.

1) 32 bit vs 64 bit Distributions

The Elecraft Utilities for Linux are 32-bit and will not run on 64-bit
distros. There are 32-bit compatibility libraries are available that will
allow 32-bit apps to run. To install the 32-bit compatibility libraries from
a terminal:

sudo apt-get install ia32-libs

2) FTP must be installed on your Linux
  
You will have to install cURL if it is not pre-installed. Most distros have

it pre-installed, but not all. It is easy to install from a terminal:

sudo apt-get install curl

3) Ensure our DialOut groups are set up properly
  
Most users, other than root and members of the dialout group, do not have

read/write permissions on the serial port device files. The Utilities cannot
access the serial ports if the user does not have r/w permissions. An easy
way to set the permissions is to add the user to the dialout group:
  
sudo adduser << your username>> dialout
  
Cheers,


David


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Re: [Elecraft] [K2] C22 has no effect

2014-11-06 Thread Steve Kavanagh
Thanks for setting me straight, Don and Mike.  I think have the hang of it 
now...calibration is much better now - though I still may want to refine it a 
bit.  Though, I didn't seem to be able to make the N6KR method work on WWV at 
20 MHz - couldn't get a frequency match.  But it's ok at 15 MHz.  

73,
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Re: [Elecraft] KXUSB with Linux

2014-11-06 Thread Jon Kåre Hellan

On 06. nov. 2014 21:42, Darren Long wrote:

Unfortunately the ia32-libs package is not available in Ubuntu 14.04 on arch
x86_64.


It is now called libc6-i386. So the command to install it is

sudo apt-get install libc6-i386

Jon LA4RT




This is a bit of a problem for me with my desktop linux computer.  I can still
use an older version of Ubuntu x86_64 on my laptop with kx3util but that version
of Ubuntu is unsupported now and will have to be updated to something more
modern very soon.

When will a 64-bit release be provided for kx3util? It really is needed now.

There's not much point releasing firmware upgrades for radios if you don't
update the tools to run with modern OS releases and 32-bit is so 20th century :P

Cheers,

Darren, G0HWW

On 06/11/14 20:23, David Shoaf wrote:

Hi Lyn,

Nate is on the right track.

Here is a list of the required Linux libraries and facilities that must be
present and enabled for Elecraft Utilities to operate successfully on that
platform.

1) 32 bit vs 64 bit Distributions

The Elecraft Utilities for Linux are 32-bit and will not run on 64-bit
distros. There are 32-bit compatibility libraries are available that will
allow 32-bit apps to run. To install the 32-bit compatibility libraries from
a terminal:

sudo apt-get install ia32-libs

2) FTP must be installed on your Linux

You will have to install cURL if it is not pre-installed. Most distros have
it pre-installed, but not all. It is easy to install from a terminal:

sudo apt-get install curl

3) Ensure our DialOut groups are set up properly

Most users, other than root and members of the dialout group, do not have
read/write permissions on the serial port device files. The Utilities cannot
access the serial ports if the user does not have r/w permissions. An easy
way to set the permissions is to add the user to the dialout group:

sudo adduser << your username>> dialout

Cheers,

David


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Re: [Elecraft] KXUSB with Linux

2014-11-06 Thread Darren Long
Thanks for the link.

Darren, G0HWW

On 06/11/14 21:35, John Nogatch wrote:
>> ... instructions for using the 32-bit kx3util
>> with Ubuntu 14.04 x86_64 ...
> 
> 
> "Re: [Elecraft] How to run linux utilities (K3, KPA etc.) on 64 bit
> Ubuntu 14.04"
> 
> https://www.mail-archive.com/elecraft@mailman.qth.net/msg169946.html
> 
> That is probably the procedure that I followed.
> 
> -John AC6SL
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Re: [Elecraft] PA HOT

2014-11-06 Thread Don Wilhelm

Ed,

The most common reason for CAL TPA going to 255 is that the K2 was 
powered on when the heatsink temperature was below 0 degC.  Since the 
DAC values do not go negative, in the 8 bit world, the next number lower 
than zero is 255.


73,
Don W3FPR

On 11/6/2014 4:14 PM, Eddy via Elecraft wrote:

I've seen this error before. My K2 (S/N 3500+ with latest firmware updates) had 
been off, no 12vdc to rig for about 2 months. When I applied DC to the rig and 
ATU and tried running the auto-tuner I got PA HOT error on the display, this 
after about 1 minute of warm up!

So, went to the KPA100 manual to check tPA calibration, I discovered it was set 
two 255 celius, a bit warm for my shackLOL. Using the Fahrenheit to Celsius 
formula in the manual, tPA should have read 18 Celsius. So, I adjusted the 
KPA100 to room temperature and KPA100 has been working FB now.

So, any suggestions why tPA would lose its calibration? By-the-way, CAL CUR is 
set to 3.5 amps per the manaul.




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Re: [Elecraft] KXUSB with Linux

2014-11-06 Thread Darren Long
I figured it out.  I had to run these commands to install some i836 stuff ...

sudo apt-get install libgtk2.0-0:i386
sudo apt-get install libcanberra-gtk0:i386


It seems to work now.  Hopefully this info will be useful for those trying to
use Ubuntu 14.04 LTS on arch x86_64.

Darren, G0HWW

On 06/11/14 21:14, Darren Long wrote:
> It fails for me with the response:
> 
> Failed to find/load Framework library
> libgtk-x11-2.0.so.0: cannot open shared object file: No such file or directory
> 
> I've not figured out how to get a 32 bit version of that package installed.  
> It
> would be nice if David could provide instructions for using the 32-bit kx3util
> with Ubuntu 14.04 x86_64 if it is actually expected to work.
> 
> 
> Darren, G0HWW
> 
> On 06/11/14 21:01, John Nogatch wrote:
>> On Thu, Nov 6, 2014 at 12:42 PM, Darren Long  wrote:
>>> Unfortunately the ia32-libs package is not available in Ubuntu 14.04 on arch
>>> x86_64.
>>
>> I am running Ubuntu 14.04 64b, & k3util works OK without ia32-libs:
>>
>> jtn@ac6sl11:~/REF/Elecraft/k3util_1_13_8_27$ lsb_release -a
>> No LSB modules are available.
>> Distributor ID: Ubuntu
>> Description: Ubuntu 14.04.1 LTS
>> Release: 14.04
>> Codename: trusty
>>
>> jtn@ac6sl11:~/REF/Elecraft/k3util_1_13_8_27$ uname -a
>> Linux ac6sl11 3.13.0-39-generic #66-Ubuntu SMP Tue Oct 28 13:30:27 UTC
>> 2014 x86_64 x86_64 x86_64 GNU/Linux
>>
>> jtn@ac6sl11:~/REF/Elecraft/k3util_1_13_8_27$ file k3util
>> k3util: ELF 32-bit LSB  executable, Intel 80386, version 1 (SYSV),
>> dynamically linked (uses shared libs), for GNU/Linux 2.6.0, stripped
>>
>> jtn@ac6sl11:~/REF/Elecraft/k3util_1_13_8_27$ ldd k3util
>> linux-gate.so.1 =>  (0xf76eb000)
>> libdl.so.2 => /lib/i386-linux-gnu/libdl.so.2 (0xf76ba000)
>> libpthread.so.0 => /lib/i386-linux-gnu/libpthread.so.0 (0xf769e000)
>> libstdc++.so.6 => /usr/lib/i386-linux-gnu/libstdc++.so.6 (0xf75b4000)
>> libm.so.6 => /lib/i386-linux-gnu/libm.so.6 (0xf756e000)
>> libgcc_s.so.1 => /lib/i386-linux-gnu/libgcc_s.so.1 (0xf7551000)
>> libc.so.6 => /lib/i386-linux-gnu/libc.so.6 (0xf73a1000)
>> /lib/ld-linux.so.2 (0xf76ec000)
>> jtn@ac6sl11:~/REF/Elecraft/k3util_1_13_8_27$ dpkg -l 'ia32*'
>> Desired=Unknown/Install/Remove/Purge/Hold
>> | 
>> Status=Not/Inst/Conf-files/Unpacked/halF-conf/Half-inst/trig-aWait/Trig-pend
>> |/ Err?=(none)/Reinst-required (Status,Err: uppercase=bad)
>> ||/ Name   Version  Architecture
>>   Description
>> +++-==---=
>> un  ia32-apt-get  
>>   (no description available)
>>
>>
>> There are some warnings from the graphics library, & some of the
>> colors are not right, but k3util is usable.
>>
>>
 Most users, other than root and members of the dialout group, ...
>>
>> I find that some udev entries are creating devices with group
>> "plugdev", so I have added both dialout & plugdev to my groups.
>>
>> -John AC6SL
>>
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Re: [Elecraft] [K2] C22 has no effect

2014-11-06 Thread Don Wilhelm

Steve,

C22 has no effect on the received frequency or the beat note during 
normal operation.
The setting for C22 is only used during a run of CAL PLL and CAL FIL 
when the frequencies (actually equivalent DAC values) are stored in EEPROM.
Once that has been accomplished, the 4 MHz reference oscillator serves 
only as the clock for the MCU and for that function, the exact frequency 
is not important.


If you want to do a calibration run on your K2, I suggest you review the 
K2 Dial Calibration article on my website www.w3fpr.com.


73,
Don W3FPR

On 11/6/2014 3:50 PM, Steve Kavanagh wrote:

I just acquired a second hand K2 (my second one) and upon going thru the 
operation in detail I noticed that it was somewhat off frequency.  WWV at 10 
MHz is received best (on USB using the CW filter - there is no SSB board) at 
10,000.96 MHz and adjusting C22 has no discernible effect on the beat note 
while listening to WWV tuned slightly off frequency.  I took the control board 
out and saw that C22 is soldered on both sides.  But the only possible cause I 
can think of for this behaviour is that C22 is either not making contact (bad 
solder joint) or is defective.  Am I missing any possibilities ?
  



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[Elecraft] PA HOT

2014-11-06 Thread Eddy via Elecraft
I've seen this error before. My K2 (S/N 3500+ with latest firmware updates) had 
been off, no 12vdc to rig for about 2 months. When I applied DC to the rig and 
ATU and tried running the auto-tuner I got PA HOT error on the display, this 
after about 1 minute of warm up!

So, went to the KPA100 manual to check tPA calibration, I discovered it was set 
two 255 celius, a bit warm for my shackLOL. Using the Fahrenheit to Celsius 
formula in the manual, tPA should have read 18 Celsius. So, I adjusted the 
KPA100 to room temperature and KPA100 has been working FB now.

So, any suggestions why tPA would lose its calibration? By-the-way, CAL CUR is 
set to 3.5 amps per the manaul.

Thanks for the assistance,

73

ed
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Re: [Elecraft] KXUSB with Linux

2014-11-06 Thread Darren Long
It fails for me with the response:

Failed to find/load Framework library
libgtk-x11-2.0.so.0: cannot open shared object file: No such file or directory

I've not figured out how to get a 32 bit version of that package installed.  It
would be nice if David could provide instructions for using the 32-bit kx3util
with Ubuntu 14.04 x86_64 if it is actually expected to work.


Darren, G0HWW

On 06/11/14 21:01, John Nogatch wrote:
> On Thu, Nov 6, 2014 at 12:42 PM, Darren Long  wrote:
>> Unfortunately the ia32-libs package is not available in Ubuntu 14.04 on arch
>> x86_64.
> 
> I am running Ubuntu 14.04 64b, & k3util works OK without ia32-libs:
> 
> jtn@ac6sl11:~/REF/Elecraft/k3util_1_13_8_27$ lsb_release -a
> No LSB modules are available.
> Distributor ID: Ubuntu
> Description: Ubuntu 14.04.1 LTS
> Release: 14.04
> Codename: trusty
> 
> jtn@ac6sl11:~/REF/Elecraft/k3util_1_13_8_27$ uname -a
> Linux ac6sl11 3.13.0-39-generic #66-Ubuntu SMP Tue Oct 28 13:30:27 UTC
> 2014 x86_64 x86_64 x86_64 GNU/Linux
> 
> jtn@ac6sl11:~/REF/Elecraft/k3util_1_13_8_27$ file k3util
> k3util: ELF 32-bit LSB  executable, Intel 80386, version 1 (SYSV),
> dynamically linked (uses shared libs), for GNU/Linux 2.6.0, stripped
> 
> jtn@ac6sl11:~/REF/Elecraft/k3util_1_13_8_27$ ldd k3util
> linux-gate.so.1 =>  (0xf76eb000)
> libdl.so.2 => /lib/i386-linux-gnu/libdl.so.2 (0xf76ba000)
> libpthread.so.0 => /lib/i386-linux-gnu/libpthread.so.0 (0xf769e000)
> libstdc++.so.6 => /usr/lib/i386-linux-gnu/libstdc++.so.6 (0xf75b4000)
> libm.so.6 => /lib/i386-linux-gnu/libm.so.6 (0xf756e000)
> libgcc_s.so.1 => /lib/i386-linux-gnu/libgcc_s.so.1 (0xf7551000)
> libc.so.6 => /lib/i386-linux-gnu/libc.so.6 (0xf73a1000)
> /lib/ld-linux.so.2 (0xf76ec000)
> jtn@ac6sl11:~/REF/Elecraft/k3util_1_13_8_27$ dpkg -l 'ia32*'
> Desired=Unknown/Install/Remove/Purge/Hold
> | Status=Not/Inst/Conf-files/Unpacked/halF-conf/Half-inst/trig-aWait/Trig-pend
> |/ Err?=(none)/Reinst-required (Status,Err: uppercase=bad)
> ||/ Name   Version  Architecture
>   Description
> +++-==---=
> un  ia32-apt-get  
>   (no description available)
> 
> 
> There are some warnings from the graphics library, & some of the
> colors are not right, but k3util is usable.
> 
> 
>>> Most users, other than root and members of the dialout group, ...
> 
> I find that some udev entries are creating devices with group
> "plugdev", so I have added both dialout & plugdev to my groups.
> 
> -John AC6SL
> 
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[Elecraft] [K2] C22 has no effect

2014-11-06 Thread Steve Kavanagh
I just acquired a second hand K2 (my second one) and upon going thru the 
operation in detail I noticed that it was somewhat off frequency.  WWV at 10 
MHz is received best (on USB using the CW filter - there is no SSB board) at 
10,000.96 MHz and adjusting C22 has no discernible effect on the beat note 
while listening to WWV tuned slightly off frequency.  I took the control board 
out and saw that C22 is soldered on both sides.  But the only possible cause I 
can think of for this behaviour is that C22 is either not making contact (bad 
solder joint) or is defective.  Am I missing any possibilities ?
 
73,
Steve VE3SMA
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Re: [Elecraft] KXUSB with Linux

2014-11-06 Thread Darren Long
Unfortunately the ia32-libs package is not available in Ubuntu 14.04 on arch
x86_64.

This is a bit of a problem for me with my desktop linux computer.  I can still
use an older version of Ubuntu x86_64 on my laptop with kx3util but that version
of Ubuntu is unsupported now and will have to be updated to something more
modern very soon.

When will a 64-bit release be provided for kx3util? It really is needed now.

There's not much point releasing firmware upgrades for radios if you don't
update the tools to run with modern OS releases and 32-bit is so 20th century :P

Cheers,

Darren, G0HWW

On 06/11/14 20:23, David Shoaf wrote:
> Hi Lyn,
> 
> Nate is on the right track.  
> 
> Here is a list of the required Linux libraries and facilities that must be
> present and enabled for Elecraft Utilities to operate successfully on that
> platform.
> 
> 1) 32 bit vs 64 bit Distributions
> 
> The Elecraft Utilities for Linux are 32-bit and will not run on 64-bit
> distros. There are 32-bit compatibility libraries are available that will
> allow 32-bit apps to run. To install the 32-bit compatibility libraries from
> a terminal:
> 
> sudo apt-get install ia32-libs
> 
> 2) FTP must be installed on your Linux
>  
> You will have to install cURL if it is not pre-installed. Most distros have
> it pre-installed, but not all. It is easy to install from a terminal:
> 
> sudo apt-get install curl
> 
> 3) Ensure our DialOut groups are set up properly
>  
> Most users, other than root and members of the dialout group, do not have
> read/write permissions on the serial port device files. The Utilities cannot
> access the serial ports if the user does not have r/w permissions. An easy
> way to set the permissions is to add the user to the dialout group:
>  
> sudo adduser << your username>> dialout
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Re: [Elecraft] KXUSB with Linux

2014-11-06 Thread David Shoaf
Hi Lyn,

Nate is on the right track.  

Here is a list of the required Linux libraries and facilities that must be
present and enabled for Elecraft Utilities to operate successfully on that
platform.

1) 32 bit vs 64 bit Distributions

The Elecraft Utilities for Linux are 32-bit and will not run on 64-bit
distros. There are 32-bit compatibility libraries are available that will
allow 32-bit apps to run. To install the 32-bit compatibility libraries from
a terminal:

sudo apt-get install ia32-libs

2) FTP must be installed on your Linux
 
You will have to install cURL if it is not pre-installed. Most distros have
it pre-installed, but not all. It is easy to install from a terminal:

sudo apt-get install curl

3) Ensure our DialOut groups are set up properly
 
Most users, other than root and members of the dialout group, do not have
read/write permissions on the serial port device files. The Utilities cannot
access the serial ports if the user does not have r/w permissions. An easy
way to set the permissions is to add the user to the dialout group:
 
sudo adduser << your username>> dialout
 
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Re: [Elecraft] [K3] autotuner for K3 with AL-811 amp (KAT500 or other) / random wire antenna

2014-11-06 Thread Don Wilhelm

John,

Use the 15' coax, but make sure it is low loss RG-8 size coax and all 
should be well.

At HF, there will be little loss in that 15' run.

73,
Don W3FPR

On 11/6/2014 11:47 AM, John Shadle wrote:

Hi all,
I've been enjoying using an AL-811 to help bust the pile-ups with my long
wire antenna and Dentron Super Tuner Plus (manual tuner), but would really
like to add a QRO autotuner to the mix.

Currently, my K3 and AL-811 sit on my desk. The Dentron sits about 15' away
on top of a bookshelf next to the basement window where my antenna enters
the shack (one wire for the radiator and one wire to the radial field). The
Dentron has a "random wire" and "ground" post on the rear, which makes
tuning this antenna a breeze (but I have to get out of my chair and re-tune
whenever I switch bands).

I'm considering the KAT500, but wonder how it would work for this
situation. Here are my two (please suggest more) solutions:

1. Put the KAT500 right next to the K3 and AL-811 on my desk, run a 15'
long 50 ohm line to a balun which would attach to the antenna outside my
basement window. Computer control is easy because the KAT500 and K3 are
right next to each other.
2. Put the KAT500 right next to the antenna and run a short (2-3') 50 ohm
line to a balun which would attach to the antenna outside my basement
window. A 15' line from the amp to the tuner would be required and no
computer control would be possible.

If I go with Option 1, then I am trying to match the 50 ohm line for 15'
before I get to the balun/antenna outside the window.
If I do with Option 2, then I won't be able to use the K3/KAT500 AUXBUS
features (I had emailed Elecraft support about this in the past and they
suggested not using a 15' long AUXBUS connector).

Anyone else tuning random wires with the KAT500? How do you do it?




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Re: [Elecraft] Sub Band Speakers on 15M Band

2014-11-06 Thread Don Wilhelm

Irwin,

Do you have the Main tuned to 20 meters and the SubRX tuned to 15 meters?
If so, the 20 meter Low Pass Filter is selected and will cut the 15 
meter signal to almost nothing.
The same thing can happen on other band combinations.  To avoid that 
problem, either set the SubRX to a band lower than the MainRX.

Or, use the AUX antenna input for the SubRX (that avoids the LPF).

73,
Don W3FPR

On 11/6/2014 11:29 AM, KD3TB wrote:

With the K3 in Split mode and Sub turned on, on 20 Meters I can hear the
Main and sub band in separate headset speakers, but cannot  on 15 Meters

  


Is there a Config/Menu function that has to be set by band?



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Re: [Elecraft] K2 receiver sensitivity on 12 and 10 Meters

2014-11-06 Thread Don Wilhelm

Matt and all,

While that is good info, be aware that the referenced application note 
which suggests reducing the value of Control Board R1 is applicable only 
to K2s below SN 3000.
There is a pot at R1 for the AGC Threshold level on all K2s SN 3000 and 
above.


You can adjust the AGC Threshold lower than the suggested 3.8 volts, but 
as you lower it, the values for CAL S LO and CAL S HI become more and 
more erratic.  I suggest keeping the voltage at CB U2 pin 5 to 6.5 volts 
or higher - a minimum of 2.7 volts is normally sufficient.


73,
Don W3FPR

On 11/6/2014 12:31 PM, Matt VK2RQ wrote:


There is an application note on the Elecraft website dealing with increasing 
the K2 sensitivity, although as the article mentions, there are trade offs:
http://www.elecraft.com/Apps/RX_Gain_application_note.htm

73,
Matt VK2RQ



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Re: [Elecraft] Sub Band Speakers on 15M Band

2014-11-06 Thread Mike K2MK
Hi Irwin,

The answer to your question is no but I think you're on the right track.
There are several items that are band selectable that could affect the audio
output of your SUB RX on 15 meters. The most likely of these is your antenna
selection. If you accidentally selected ANT 2 or AUX RX for your SUB RX on
15 meters and if you don't have anything connected to those inputs then you
would indeed hear no audio on your right channel speaker when on 15 meters.

73,
Mike K2MK



KD3TB wrote
> With the K3 in Split mode and Sub turned on, on 20 Meters I can hear the
> Main and sub band in separate headset speakers, but cannot  on 15 Meters
> 
> Is there a Config/Menu function that has to be set by band?
> 
> Thanks, 
> 
> Irwin  - KD3TB
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Re: [Elecraft] KXUSB with Linux

2014-11-06 Thread Nate Bargmann
* On 2014 06 Nov 11:28 -0600, Lyn Haddock wrote:
> I’m trying to connect my KX3/PX3 rig to a Linux computer to use the
> Utility programs. I’m have tried to connect to two different computers
> running both Mint 17 and Ubuntu 14.04 with no luck so far.
> 
> From what I can tell, these Linux distros should both natively support
> FTDI chips for VCP connections. The FTDI site confirms this and only
> provides instructions for replacing the VCP driver with a D2XX driver.
> 
> I can see the FTDI device using “lsusb” when plug the KXUSB
> in. However, the KXUSB apparently can’t connect to /dev/ttyusb0 to let
> me use the KX3 or PX3 Utilities.

Hi Lyn.

Most likely the name of the port is /dev/ttyUSB0 as that has been
standard convention for some time.  Case matters in file names.  If you
are typing the name correctly, then all I can think of is that your
username may not be a member of the 'dialout' group.  You can easily
check this in a terminal by typing the 'groups' command.

There are various ways to do add your username to the 'dialout' group,
as I recall, both Mint and Ubunutu offer a graphical program to manage
your user's group membership.

> When i unplug the KXUSB from the USB port on either Linux box and plug
> it into my Mac, all is well. It even works when I reboot the same PC
> to WIN7 instead of Ubuntu. What am I missing?

I don't know about OS/X, but I recall that Windows will automatically
make the device available to a non-privileged user.  The Linux
distributions are a bit more careful about security in this regard which
sometimes seems like a bit of undue paranoia.

73, Nate

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Re: [Elecraft] K2 receiver sensitivity on 12 and 10 Meters

2014-11-06 Thread Matt VK2RQ
Here are some other ideas:

I wonder if switching off the AGC makes much difference? If so, maybe it is 
kicking in too early, and you may need to look at setting the threshold (I 
think there are procedures in the K2 manual for this).

You said peaking the band pass filter didn't help much (I guess you did this in 
the right order, as described in the manual?) What about the IF filter L34 
adjustment? That could affect overall gain. Although not really related to 
sensitivity, while you are running alignment procedures, may as well go the 
whole way and check the setup of the crystal filter with spectrogram.

It may be interesting to measure the sensitivity to see if there may be a 
problem. The following webpage may be a useful reference:
http://www.cliftonlaboratories.com/k2_rx_sensitivity.htm

When I built my K2, I used the measurement procedure in the XG3 signal 
generator manual to measure the sensitivity as a sanity check to see if I'd 
built it properly. The result came out somewhere in the ballpark of the figure 
published in Rob Sherwood's receiver performance list.
http://www.sherweng.com/table.html

There is an application note on the Elecraft website dealing with increasing 
the K2 sensitivity, although as the article mentions, there are trade offs:
http://www.elecraft.com/Apps/RX_Gain_application_note.htm

73,
Matt VK2RQ

> On 7 Nov 2014, at 12:27 am, Hans J Rasmusen OZ7BQ  wrote:
> 
> Dear Don and Matt,Thank you for your comments. I know that being able to hear 
> the antenna noise, should indicate that the sensitivity is OK.Measuring the 
> noise level on the K2 speaker output indicate that the noise level incease 4 
> to 6 dB on 10 Meters, but barely on 12 M when the antenna is connected. The 
> difference is just audible, and the general RX signal level is lower than on 
> other bands.Peaking the filter does not improve the RX. TX produce full 
> output on both bands.
> 73 OZ7BQ  Hans Jørgen
> 
> 
> Den 0:44 torsdag den 6. november 2014 skrev Don Wilhelm 
> :
> 
> 
> Hans,
> 
> I would suggest you try re-peaking the K2 bandpass filters using 
> Transmit.  Set the power to 2 watts and adjust the 10 meter inductors 
> for maximum output (L12 and L13) using TUNE, then switch to 12 meters 
> and adjust C44 and C46 for maximum output.  That should produce the best 
> setting for both transmit and receive.
> 
> If connecting the antenna when tuned to those bands results in an 
> increase in noise in the receiver, you have all the sensitivity you can 
> use.  You should be using real signals (but weak ones) to compare 
> receiver sensitivity - if you are comparing on the basis of the 
> 'loudness' of the noise heard, that can create a false impression.  What 
> is important is the signal that stands above the atmospheric noise.
> 
> 73,
> Don W3FPR
> 
>> On 11/5/2014 4:41 PM, Hans J Rasmusen OZ7BQ wrote:
>> My K2 (ser 04069) appears to lack a bit of receiver sensitivity on 12 and 10 
>> Meters. I can hear stations and the static noise when the antenna is 
>> connected, only weaker than on other bands.
>> I have full TX power output on both bands, so the filters appears to be 
>> tuned correctly.I only noticed the apparent lower sensitivity on 12 and 10 
>> Meters after adding a KX3 to the station.My plan is to rig the K2 up as 
>> second receiver for split operation on a special RX antenna using the K2 
>> Rcvr Antenna module.
>> If the apparent lower sensitivity on 12 and 10 Meters is normal, so be it. 
>> However, I wonder if any one has made the same observations and found a 
>> solution.
>> 
>> 
> 
> 
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[Elecraft] KXUSB with Linux

2014-11-06 Thread Lyn Haddock
I’m trying to connect my KX3/PX3 rig to a Linux computer to use the Utility 
programs. I’m have tried to connect to two different computers running both 
Mint 17 and Ubuntu 14.04 with no luck so far.

From what I can tell, these Linux distros should both natively support FTDI 
chips for VCP connections. The FTDI site confirms this and only provides 
instructions for replacing the VCP driver with a D2XX driver.

I can see the FTDI device using “lsusb” when plug the KXUSB in. However, the 
KXUSB apparently can’t connect to /dev/ttyusb0 to let me use the KX3 or PX3 
Utilities.

When i unplug the KXUSB from the USB port on either Linux box and plug it into 
my Mac, all is well. It even works when I reboot the same PC to WIN7 instead of 
Ubuntu. What am I missing?

Thanks,
Lyn - KC8I
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[Elecraft] [K3] autotuner for K3 with AL-811 amp (KAT500 or other) / random wire antenna

2014-11-06 Thread John Shadle
Hi all,
I've been enjoying using an AL-811 to help bust the pile-ups with my long
wire antenna and Dentron Super Tuner Plus (manual tuner), but would really
like to add a QRO autotuner to the mix.

Currently, my K3 and AL-811 sit on my desk. The Dentron sits about 15' away
on top of a bookshelf next to the basement window where my antenna enters
the shack (one wire for the radiator and one wire to the radial field). The
Dentron has a "random wire" and "ground" post on the rear, which makes
tuning this antenna a breeze (but I have to get out of my chair and re-tune
whenever I switch bands).

I'm considering the KAT500, but wonder how it would work for this
situation. Here are my two (please suggest more) solutions:

1. Put the KAT500 right next to the K3 and AL-811 on my desk, run a 15'
long 50 ohm line to a balun which would attach to the antenna outside my
basement window. Computer control is easy because the KAT500 and K3 are
right next to each other.
2. Put the KAT500 right next to the antenna and run a short (2-3') 50 ohm
line to a balun which would attach to the antenna outside my basement
window. A 15' line from the amp to the tuner would be required and no
computer control would be possible.

If I go with Option 1, then I am trying to match the 50 ohm line for 15'
before I get to the balun/antenna outside the window.
If I do with Option 2, then I won't be able to use the K3/KAT500 AUXBUS
features (I had emailed Elecraft support about this in the past and they
suggested not using a 15' long AUXBUS connector).

Anyone else tuning random wires with the KAT500? How do you do it?

Should I be considering another tuner altogether? I don't want to break the
bank, but I do want a workable solution.

73
-john W4PAH
Madison, WI
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[Elecraft] Sub Band Speakers on 15M Band

2014-11-06 Thread KD3TB
With the K3 in Split mode and Sub turned on, on 20 Meters I can hear the
Main and sub band in separate headset speakers, but cannot  on 15 Meters

 

Is there a Config/Menu function that has to be set by band?

 

Thanks, 

 

Irwin  - KD3TB

 

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Re: [Elecraft] [K3] Programmable/assignable Split Key?

2014-11-06 Thread K2MK

Hi Jim,

The SPLIT command can be sent using the macro FTx; or SWH13;
FT1 turns SPLIT on
FT0 turns SPLIT off
SWH13 toggles SPLIT from off to on or from on to off

If you do not have the DVR module in your K3 you can assign the M1 through 
M4 buttons (both tap and hold) as macro senders. In this way you are not 
limited to the PF1 and PF2 buttons. I use M2 through M4 to send SPLIT and 
SUB RX commands to the K3.


And of course if you have a PC logging program running you should be able to 
set up macros from your PC keyboard. I have two macros that I use on my PC 
keyboard while running WriteLog that cause actions to occur on both my K3 
and P3. One macro uses the F12 button and the other macro uses the * button 
on the numeric keypad.


73,
Mike K2MK

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[Elecraft] [K3] Programmable/assignable Split Key?

Jim Miller Wed, 05 Nov 2014 15:40:21 -0800

At one time there was mention of making the Split (Hold A>B) key assignable
to a macro. The use of this and the various Toggle macros would free up the
PF1 and PF2 keys I currently have assigned to Copy Filters/Split/Up1 etc.

Did this ever come to pass?

73
jim ab3cv 


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[Elecraft] Looking for Used K3/0 (Large) for Florida QTH

2014-11-06 Thread Mitch Wolfson DJØQN
For my Florida QTH, I am looking for a used K3/0 (large version, I 
believe it is too soon for a used mini).


If you replaced your K3/0 with a K3/0 mini, or are not using your K3/0, 
I may be interested in purchasing it. This can be with or without a 
control RRC, but I am looking for an RRC as well.


I can take delivery in Florida after December 1st, before then in Europe.

Please contact me off list.

73,
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Re: [Elecraft] K2 receiver sensitivity on 12 and 10 Meters

2014-11-06 Thread Hans J Rasmusen OZ7BQ
Dear Don and Matt,Thank you for your comments. I know that being able to hear 
the antenna noise, should indicate that the sensitivity is OK.Measuring the 
noise level on the K2 speaker output indicate that the noise level incease 4 to 
6 dB on 10 Meters, but barely on 12 M when the antenna is connected. The 
difference is just audible, and the general RX signal level is lower than on 
other bands.Peaking the filter does not improve the RX. TX produce full output 
on both bands.
73 OZ7BQ  Hans Jørgen
 

 Den 0:44 torsdag den 6. november 2014 skrev Don Wilhelm 
:
   

 Hans,

I would suggest you try re-peaking the K2 bandpass filters using 
Transmit.  Set the power to 2 watts and adjust the 10 meter inductors 
for maximum output (L12 and L13) using TUNE, then switch to 12 meters 
and adjust C44 and C46 for maximum output.  That should produce the best 
setting for both transmit and receive.

If connecting the antenna when tuned to those bands results in an 
increase in noise in the receiver, you have all the sensitivity you can 
use.  You should be using real signals (but weak ones) to compare 
receiver sensitivity - if you are comparing on the basis of the 
'loudness' of the noise heard, that can create a false impression.  What 
is important is the signal that stands above the atmospheric noise.

73,
Don W3FPR

On 11/5/2014 4:41 PM, Hans J Rasmusen OZ7BQ wrote:
> My K2 (ser 04069) appears to lack a bit of receiver sensitivity on 12 and 10 
> Meters. I can hear stations and the static noise when the antenna is 
> connected, only weaker than on other bands.
> I have full TX power output on both bands, so the filters appears to be tuned 
> correctly.I only noticed the apparent lower sensitivity on 12 and 10 Meters 
> after adding a KX3 to the station.My plan is to rig the K2 up as second 
> receiver for split operation on a special RX antenna using the K2 Rcvr 
> Antenna module.
> If the apparent lower sensitivity on 12 and 10 Meters is normal, so be it. 
> However, I wonder if any one has made the same observations and found a 
> solution.
>
>



   
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