Re: [Elecraft] K3 CW decoder and CQ CW contest

2014-11-30 Thread F5vjc
Go with a paddle and electronic keyer, or use the inbuilt rig keyer, Iambic
or not is up to you, also Mode A or B whichever feels comfortable.
You can play with the straight if you wish key when you know how good CW
sounds.

Most important... LISTEN to what good CW sounds like, using programs such
as "Koch Trainer", "Just Learn Morse Code" and "Morse Runner" for contest
practice.

Lots of good CW on air but also lots of VERY poor CW, spacing is important.

Good luck...

73, Denis F5VJC

On 1 December 2014 at 08:08, Vic Rosenthal  wrote:

> I don't agree. How does a straight key help you achieve proper spacing?
> Some of the worst sending I've ever heard comes from straight keys. Just
> get a paddle and let the keyer do its job.  Your job will be to pay
> attention to the letter and word spacing.
> Also, as others have said, don't get an expensive paddle until you have
> enough experience to know what you want. The old Bencher BY1 is cheap and
> good.
>
> Vic, 4X6GP/K2VCO
>
> > On Dec 1, 2014, at 5:51 AM, Joe Subich, W4TV  wrote:
> >
> >
> > A straight key ... any quality straight key.  Don't move to
> > paddles or a bug until you learn proper timing/spacing.
> >
> > 73,
> >
> >   ... Joe, W4TV
> >
> >
> >> On 2014-11-30 10:27 PM, Tom Blahovici wrote:
> >> Ok
> >> So I'm sure this is going to get a lot of opinions... What's the best
> key to start with?
> >> With the k3 of course.
> >>
> >>> On Nov 30, 2014 10:04 PM, Ray Sills  wrote:
> >>>
> >>> And, don't forget that CW is almost an international language.  Even
> >>> if you don't speak any of the many foreign languages, most DX
> >>> operators understand the characters that we use for a QSO... QTH,
> >>> name, WX, RST.  And when it's a DX station running... well, all you
> >>> get is your call and report (5nn).   Many DX operators know enough
> >>> English to do the same in voice, but not all.  CW fills in that gap.
> >>>
> >>> 73 de Ray
> >>> K2ULR
> >>> KX3 #211
> >>>
> >>>
>  On Nov 30, 2014, at 8:08 PM, lmarion wrote:
> 
>  If you want to work more DX than you ever thought possible:
> 
>  1. Learn enough CW to do basic  exchanges.
>  Your speed and proficiency will increase dramatically by just doing
>  it.
>  2. Get on 30 meters.  Other countries have not abandoned CW
>  like the USA has. You will work DX after DX station.
> 
>    You can even call CQ with QRP power and work stations worldwide.
>  No need to wait for contests with their special rules and pileups.
> 
> 
>  Leroy AB7CE
> 
> 
> 
> > On Sun, 2014-11-30 at 18:32 -0500, Tom Blahovici wrote:
> > Hi
> > Just thought I'd drop a note about the Elecraft CW decoder. I've
> > been on the air for a number of hours hunting new DXCC's with the
> > K3's built in CW decoder. This was my first time using CW, I only
> > know the letters CQ 5NN TU and that's it! ( OK E also) Never been
> > on CW before so all DXCC's were 'new'.
> > Armed with that and a spotting program I racked up 50 new dxccs
> > from around the world. This was a new experience and introduced me
> > to CW. Now I want to learn it so the next time the contest comes
> > around I'll enjoy it that much more. Was a blast.
> > 73's Tom
> > va2fsq.com
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Re: [Elecraft] Getting Started With CW

2014-11-30 Thread Sverre Holm (LA3ZA)
I couldn't agree more. I'm glad I finally discovered the single-lever paddle
after more than ten years of struggling with iambic. It is so much easier to
use the single-lever and it is much more forgiving for small timing errors. 

I wrote about it on my blog some time ago:
http://la3za.blogspot.no/2013/06/the-advantage-of-single-lever-paddle.html
After that I got the tiny Palm single-lever paddle.


Barry K3NDM wrote
> Tom,
>  As a beginner, don't get hung up on iambic. 





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Re: [Elecraft] K3 CW decoder and CQ CW contest

2014-11-30 Thread Vic Rosenthal
I don't agree. How does a straight key help you achieve proper spacing? Some of 
the worst sending I've ever heard comes from straight keys. Just get a paddle 
and let the keyer do its job.  Your job will be to pay attention to the letter 
and word spacing.
Also, as others have said, don't get an expensive paddle until you have enough 
experience to know what you want. The old Bencher BY1 is cheap and good.

Vic, 4X6GP/K2VCO

> On Dec 1, 2014, at 5:51 AM, Joe Subich, W4TV  wrote:
> 
> 
> A straight key ... any quality straight key.  Don't move to
> paddles or a bug until you learn proper timing/spacing.
> 
> 73,
> 
>   ... Joe, W4TV
> 
> 
>> On 2014-11-30 10:27 PM, Tom Blahovici wrote:
>> Ok
>> So I'm sure this is going to get a lot of opinions... What's the best key to 
>> start with?
>> With the k3 of course.
>> 
>>> On Nov 30, 2014 10:04 PM, Ray Sills  wrote:
>>> 
>>> And, don't forget that CW is almost an international language.  Even
>>> if you don't speak any of the many foreign languages, most DX
>>> operators understand the characters that we use for a QSO... QTH,
>>> name, WX, RST.  And when it's a DX station running... well, all you
>>> get is your call and report (5nn).   Many DX operators know enough
>>> English to do the same in voice, but not all.  CW fills in that gap.
>>> 
>>> 73 de Ray
>>> K2ULR
>>> KX3 #211
>>> 
>>> 
 On Nov 30, 2014, at 8:08 PM, lmarion wrote:
 
 If you want to work more DX than you ever thought possible:
 
 1. Learn enough CW to do basic  exchanges.
 Your speed and proficiency will increase dramatically by just doing
 it.
 2. Get on 30 meters.  Other countries have not abandoned CW
 like the USA has. You will work DX after DX station.
 
   You can even call CQ with QRP power and work stations worldwide.
 No need to wait for contests with their special rules and pileups.
 
 
 Leroy AB7CE
 
 
 
> On Sun, 2014-11-30 at 18:32 -0500, Tom Blahovici wrote:
> Hi
> Just thought I'd drop a note about the Elecraft CW decoder. I've
> been on the air for a number of hours hunting new DXCC's with the
> K3's built in CW decoder. This was my first time using CW, I only
> know the letters CQ 5NN TU and that's it! ( OK E also) Never been
> on CW before so all DXCC's were 'new'.
> Armed with that and a spotting program I racked up 50 new dxccs
> from around the world. This was a new experience and introduced me
> to CW. Now I want to learn it so the next time the contest comes
> around I'll enjoy it that much more. Was a blast.
> 73's Tom
> va2fsq.com
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Re: [Elecraft] Getting Started With CW

2014-11-30 Thread Barry LaZar

Tom,
As a beginner, don't get hung up on iambic. It's really for the 
advanced CW operator. It requires a double paddle, or squeeze key set 
and when you squeeze the paddles, you send alternating dits and dahs. 
Whether you send a dit or a dah first, is a matter if which side you 
squeezed first.


There all kinds of keys out there. As a beginner who most likely is 
not going to run high speed, almost any paddle set will work as long as 
the paddles move smoothly. The important thing is that it has a heavy 
enough base not to move around during excited sending. A Bencher is 
probably not a bad starting point. It uses a spring to make the paddle 
work and it doesn't feel all that bad. I use a good Vibroplex most of 
the time with an old Brown Brothers as my other main paddle set. I also 
have my first set which is an FYO set that Bencher copied.


 No matter what kind of paddle set you get, you are going to need 
to adjust it for you. Whether you get spring loaded or magnetic tension 
paddles, the watch word is smoothness and response. At low speed 
response is not usually an issue. The rest of it is cosmetic. If there 
is a good CW operator near you, go see him and ask to play with his 
key/paddle set and see what it feels like. And then ask him why he sets 
his paddles as he does.



73,
Barry
K3NDM




On 12/1/2014 12:05 AM, Tom Blahovici wrote:

I like the comment about going through an intermediate step... Maybe I'll look 
at a paddle instead.
So what's this about iambic? What are the types of paddles out there?

On Nov 30, 2014 11:42 PM, Jim Brown  wrote:

On Sun,11/30/2014 8:25 PM, Leroy Marion wrote:

Does not a paddle and keyer give you perfect timing?

It's been nearly 60 years since I went through that. Paddles and keyers
did not exist -- we had "bugs," but did start on straight keys. But bugs
are inherently different from the paddle/keyer combo. Perhaps one of the
CWOps guys who are working with CW Academy can offer an opinion. Mine is
that sending good CW is mostly a matter of training our brain and
fingers to mimic the good CW that we hear. Unless you're a real straight
key "pro," they're far too slow for most on air CW, so if you're going
to learn what you're going to use, I don't see the value in going
through an intermediate step.

BTW -- if you want to get a great start on CW (or build your skills), by
all means take advantage of CW Academy. This is the brainchild of K6RB
and a few other CWOps members, and it's been quite successful.
http://www.cwops.org/  I'm a proud member of CWOps, but not very active.
It's a great group. Membership is by invitation. You don't need to be a
member to be in CW Academy or the many on-the-air events. Check out the
website.

73, Jim K9YC

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Re: [Elecraft] K3 CW decoder and CQ CW contest

2014-11-30 Thread dave


There is nothing inherent in a paddle that causes bad CW any more than 
a straight key causes bad CW. There is tons of horrible CW sent with 
straight keys. Just listen a bit. They are not hard to find.


If you want to learn good timing with either a paddle or straight key 
then practice sending and let a computer decode what you send. It will 
spot most all errors regardless of the method of sending.


Sloppy timing has nothing to do with the instrument used. It is 100% 
with the op and their failure to practice with whatever they are 
using. Poor timing is plentiful from both straight keys and paddles.


73 de dave
ab9ca/4



On 11/30/14 11:09 PM, Joe Subich, W4TV wrote:


 >   Does not a paddle and keyer give you perfect timing?

Absolutely not!  One need only listen to the number of *BAD* fists
with paddles - maladjusted keyers, letters run together, "short"
word spaces, missing dits, etc. are all quite common.

73,

... Joe, W4TV



On 2014-11-30 11:25 PM, Leroy Marion wrote:

If I had to use a straight key, I would give up CW entirely.  I went
right to paddles and a keyer.
I have about 20 various CW capable radios, every one of them has a
built in keyer
  Does not a paddle and keyer give you perfect timing?

Leroy AB7CE


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A straight key ... any quality straight key.  Don't move to paddles or
a bug until you learn proper timing/spacing.



I have to agree.  Straight key first, without question.  VIbroplex,
J-38,  yada yada, just about anything that is a decent key.  Many to
choose from.  Learn the code and most importantly GOOD timing.  Get
your speed up.  Then worry about a bug or single/dual lever paddles
and the different keyer modes, and don’t be in a hurry to move to
something glitzy.

Grant NQ5T


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Re: [Elecraft] Getting Started With CW

2014-11-30 Thread Leroy Marion
I have from the Schurr Profi to home made keys.
 One of the best I have is the Norcal paddles  Kit key,.
It’s a magnetic(versus springs ) type key. I did put silver contacts on it.
It was picked up by Vibroplex and made as the Code Warrior, I think.
I don’t think Elecraft sells the magnetic paddles by Bencher 
anymore.
  Another favorite that is in use right now is the N3ZN key, also 
magnetic tension.
   Now that my hand has become partially paralyzed, I am using  
computer key board
Keying, and I like it a lot. Probably the wave of the future and the saving 
technology for CW.
Also used for PSK31 and other modes.
 
 Leroy  AB7CE


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Subject: Re: [Elecraft] Getting Started With CW

I like the comment about going through an intermediate step... Maybe I'll look 
at a paddle instead. 
So what's this about iambic? What are the types of paddles out there?


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Re: [Elecraft] K3 CW decoder and CQ CW contest

2014-11-30 Thread Joe Subich, W4TV


>   Does not a paddle and keyer give you perfect timing?

Absolutely not!  One need only listen to the number of *BAD* fists
with paddles - maladjusted keyers, letters run together, "short"
word spaces, missing dits, etc. are all quite common.

73,

   ... Joe, W4TV



On 2014-11-30 11:25 PM, Leroy Marion wrote:

If I had to use a straight key, I would give up CW entirely.  I went right to 
paddles and a keyer.
I have about 20 various CW capable radios, every one of them has a built in 
keyer
  Does not a paddle and keyer give you perfect timing?

Leroy AB7CE


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YOUNGMAN
Sent: Sunday, November 30, 2014 9:11 PM
To: Elecraft List
Subject: Re: [Elecraft] K3 CW decoder and CQ CW contest




A straight key ... any quality straight key.  Don't move to paddles or
a bug until you learn proper timing/spacing.



I have to agree.  Straight key first, without question.  VIbroplex, J-38,  yada 
yada, just about anything that is a decent key.  Many to choose from.  Learn 
the code and most importantly GOOD timing.  Get your speed up.  Then worry 
about a bug or single/dual lever paddles and the different keyer modes, and 
don’t be in a hurry to move to something glitzy.

Grant NQ5T


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Re: [Elecraft] Getting Started With CW

2014-11-30 Thread Tom Blahovici
I like the comment about going through an intermediate step... Maybe I'll look 
at a paddle instead. 
So what's this about iambic? What are the types of paddles out there?

On Nov 30, 2014 11:42 PM, Jim Brown  wrote:
>
> On Sun,11/30/2014 8:25 PM, Leroy Marion wrote: 
> >   Does not a paddle and keyer give you perfect timing? 
>
> It's been nearly 60 years since I went through that. Paddles and keyers 
> did not exist -- we had "bugs," but did start on straight keys. But bugs 
> are inherently different from the paddle/keyer combo. Perhaps one of the 
> CWOps guys who are working with CW Academy can offer an opinion. Mine is 
> that sending good CW is mostly a matter of training our brain and 
> fingers to mimic the good CW that we hear. Unless you're a real straight 
> key "pro," they're far too slow for most on air CW, so if you're going 
> to learn what you're going to use, I don't see the value in going 
> through an intermediate step. 
>
> BTW -- if you want to get a great start on CW (or build your skills), by 
> all means take advantage of CW Academy. This is the brainchild of K6RB 
> and a few other CWOps members, and it's been quite successful. 
> http://www.cwops.org/  I'm a proud member of CWOps, but not very active. 
> It's a great group. Membership is by invitation. You don't need to be a 
> member to be in CW Academy or the many on-the-air events. Check out the 
> website. 
>
> 73, Jim K9YC 
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Re: [Elecraft] Getting Started With CW

2014-11-30 Thread Walter Underwood
I’m not a CW operator, but if you have any RSI issues from computer use, be 
careful about spending a lot of time with a straight key. Professional 
telegraphers got an early version of RSI called “glass arm”. It appears that 
you can avoid that with excellent technique, the same way you avoid RSI on a 
computer. But I have not heard of RSI injuries with paddles.

wunder
K6WRU
CM87wj
http://observer.wunderwood.org/

On Nov 30, 2014, at 8:42 PM, Jim Brown  wrote:

> On Sun,11/30/2014 8:25 PM, Leroy Marion wrote:
>>  Does not a paddle and keyer give you perfect timing?
> 
> It's been nearly 60 years since I went through that. Paddles and keyers did 
> not exist -- we had "bugs," but did start on straight keys. But bugs are 
> inherently different from the paddle/keyer combo. Perhaps one of the CWOps 
> guys who are working with CW Academy can offer an opinion. Mine is that 
> sending good CW is mostly a matter of training our brain and fingers to mimic 
> the good CW that we hear. Unless you're a real straight key "pro," they're 
> far too slow for most on air CW, so if you're going to learn what you're 
> going to use, I don't see the value in going through an intermediate step.
> 
> BTW -- if you want to get a great start on CW (or build your skills), by all 
> means take advantage of CW Academy. This is the brainchild of K6RB and a few 
> other CWOps members, and it's been quite successful. http://www.cwops.org/  
> I'm a proud member of CWOps, but not very active. It's a great group. 
> Membership is by invitation. You don't need to be a member to be in CW 
> Academy or the many on-the-air events. Check out the website.
> 
> 73, Jim K9YC
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[Elecraft] Getting Started With CW

2014-11-30 Thread Jim Brown

On Sun,11/30/2014 8:25 PM, Leroy Marion wrote:

  Does not a paddle and keyer give you perfect timing?


It's been nearly 60 years since I went through that. Paddles and keyers 
did not exist -- we had "bugs," but did start on straight keys. But bugs 
are inherently different from the paddle/keyer combo. Perhaps one of the 
CWOps guys who are working with CW Academy can offer an opinion. Mine is 
that sending good CW is mostly a matter of training our brain and 
fingers to mimic the good CW that we hear. Unless you're a real straight 
key "pro," they're far too slow for most on air CW, so if you're going 
to learn what you're going to use, I don't see the value in going 
through an intermediate step.


BTW -- if you want to get a great start on CW (or build your skills), by 
all means take advantage of CW Academy. This is the brainchild of K6RB 
and a few other CWOps members, and it's been quite successful. 
http://www.cwops.org/  I'm a proud member of CWOps, but not very active. 
It's a great group. Membership is by invitation. You don't need to be a 
member to be in CW Academy or the many on-the-air events. Check out the 
website.


73, Jim K9YC

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Re: [Elecraft] K3 CW decoder and CQ CW contest

2014-11-30 Thread Eric Norris
I agree, straight key first--unless you have tendon or other issues in your 
hand/wrist/arm--in which case go to paddles.  I can't use a straight key any 
more for more than 20 minutes without a lot of pain.

Have fun!  Oh, one more thing--there are fewer lids, asholes, and many more 
superb ops and just plain interesting people on CW :-)

73

Eric WD6DBM

GRANT YOUNGMAN  wrote:

>
>> 
>> A straight key ... any quality straight key.  Don't move to
>> paddles or a bug until you learn proper timing/spacing.
>> 
>
>I have to agree.  Straight key first, without question.  VIbroplex, J-38,  
>yada yada, just about anything that is a decent key.  Many to choose from.  
>Learn the code and most importantly GOOD timing.  Get your speed up.  Then 
>worry about a bug or single/dual lever paddles and the different keyer modes, 
>and don’t be in a hurry to move to something glitzy.
>
>Grant NQ5T
>
>
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Re: [Elecraft] K3 CW decoder and CQ CW contest

2014-11-30 Thread Leroy Marion
If I had to use a straight key, I would give up CW entirely.  I went right to 
paddles and a keyer.
I have about 20 various CW capable radios, every one of them has a built in 
keyer
 Does not a paddle and keyer give you perfect timing?

Leroy AB7CE


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> 
> A straight key ... any quality straight key.  Don't move to paddles or 
> a bug until you learn proper timing/spacing.
> 

I have to agree.  Straight key first, without question.  VIbroplex, J-38,  yada 
yada, just about anything that is a decent key.  Many to choose from.  Learn 
the code and most importantly GOOD timing.  Get your speed up.  Then worry 
about a bug or single/dual lever paddles and the different keyer modes, and 
don’t be in a hurry to move to something glitzy.

Grant NQ5T


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Re: [Elecraft] K3 CW decoder and CQ CW contest

2014-11-30 Thread GRANT YOUNGMAN

> 
> A straight key ... any quality straight key.  Don't move to
> paddles or a bug until you learn proper timing/spacing.
> 

I have to agree.  Straight key first, without question.  VIbroplex, J-38,  yada 
yada, just about anything that is a decent key.  Many to choose from.  Learn 
the code and most importantly GOOD timing.  Get your speed up.  Then worry 
about a bug or single/dual lever paddles and the different keyer modes, and 
don’t be in a hurry to move to something glitzy.

Grant NQ5T



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Re: [Elecraft] What key?

2014-11-30 Thread Jim Brown

On Sun,11/30/2014 7:50 PM, Ken G Kopp wrote:

If you want a paddle, the Benchers are very good.  There isn't as wide a choice 
in straight keys.


My opinions. :)  In today's world, only a purist needs or wants a 
straight key. I agree the Bencher paddles  are very good, and they're a 
bargain compared to the others mentioned. The least expensive way to buy 
one is used as part of a MFJ keyer that has one built it. That's because 
of MFJ's reputation for quality. :)  I have 3 or 4 Benchers, all bought 
used. Paddles don't wear out.


Several years ago, I fell for a Begali, and I have a hard time sending 
with it.  One of my friends has an N3ZN that he brings to Field Day and 
CQP expeditions. It's a nice looking paddle, but I haven't used it.


So my advice is to buy a used Bencher, and spend on something else only 
after you're a seasoned CW op.


Most rigs have decent keyers, so you only need an outboard keyer for use 
with a contesting program to overcome issues with how they work with 
Windoze to send CW. The Winkey, an inexpensive kit, has become an 
accepted standard.


73, Jim K9YC
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Re: [Elecraft] K3 CW decoder and CQ CW contest

2014-11-30 Thread Tom Blahovici
Hi
I knew I shouldn't of asked I now have suggestions of probably about 40 or 
so keys... 
I'll think I'll start pure.. Just a straight key. I had one,  but the spring 
flew out and I never found it. So I guess the vibroflex? 

On Nov 30, 2014 10:52 PM, Eric Norris  wrote:
>
> I like the Vibroplex straight keY--it's smooth.  For paddles, the Brass Racer 
> paddle (also Vibroplex, both current production).  If you get the Bug bug, 
> buy an older Vibroplex bug with the "I" style damper, and a Vari-Eze (bar 
> style) to slow it down.  You can send perfect code from 11wpm up.  The 
> Champion and Lightning models had the old"I" damper.  You can then extend the 
> Vari-eze straight out the rear of the bug.  You can't do that with 
> newer-style dampers.  The Viz Vertical is also a great bug that can be slowed 
> down--just ask Tom to make you a double-length weight, and extend it up 
> beyond the damper peg.  Some will tell you to buy these brass weights sold 
> for another use, or just use solder.  These have never worked for me.  If you 
> add too much weight, it screws up your timing--you need the longer arm. 
>
> Just please do not become one of the many lids who send at 13wpm with their 
> bugs making 30wpm dits.  Ewww!  And keep your contacts clean to avoid that 
> awful scratchy sound
>
> I'm happy to work a QRS sked on the air with you on CW anytime.
>
> 73
>
> Eric WD6DBM
>
> Tom Blahovici  wrote:
>
> >Ok
> >So I'm sure this is going to get a lot of opinions... What's the best key to 
> >start with? 
> >With the k3 of course.
> >
> >On Nov 30, 2014 10:04 PM, Ray Sills  wrote:
> >>
> >> And, don't forget that CW is almost an international language.  Even  
> >> if you don't speak any of the many foreign languages, most DX  
> >> operators understand the characters that we use for a QSO... QTH,  
> >> name, WX, RST.  And when it's a DX station running... well, all you  
> >> get is your call and report (5nn).   Many DX operators know enough  
> >> English to do the same in voice, but not all.  CW fills in that gap. 
> >>
> >> 73 de Ray 
> >> K2ULR 
> >> KX3 #211 
> >>
> >>
> >> On Nov 30, 2014, at 8:08 PM, lmarion wrote: 
> >>
> >> > If you want to work more DX than you ever thought possible: 
> >> > 
> >> > 1. Learn enough CW to do basic  exchanges. 
> >> > Your speed and proficiency will increase dramatically by just doing  
> >> > it. 
> >> > 2. Get on 30 meters.  Other countries have not abandoned CW 
> >> > like the USA has. You will work DX after DX station. 
> >> > 
> >> >  You can even call CQ with QRP power and work stations worldwide. 
> >> > No need to wait for contests with their special rules and pileups. 
> >> > 
> >> >  
> >> > Leroy AB7CE 
> >> > 
> >> > 
> >> > 
> >> > On Sun, 2014-11-30 at 18:32 -0500, Tom Blahovici wrote: 
> >> >> Hi 
> >> >> Just thought I'd drop a note about the Elecraft CW decoder. I've  
> >> >> been on the air for a number of hours hunting new DXCC's with the  
> >> >> K3's built in CW decoder. This was my first time using CW, I only  
> >> >> know the letters CQ 5NN TU and that's it! ( OK E also) Never been  
> >> >> on CW before so all DXCC's were 'new'. 
> >> >> Armed with that and a spotting program I racked up 50 new dxccs  
> >> >> from around the world. This was a new experience and introduced me  
> >> >> to CW. Now I want to learn it so the next time the contest comes  
> >> >> around I'll enjoy it that much more. Was a blast. 
> >> >> 73's Tom 
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Re: [Elecraft] K3 CW decoder and CQ CW contest

2014-11-30 Thread Eric Norris
I like the Vibroplex straight keY--it's smooth.  For paddles, the Brass Racer 
paddle (also Vibroplex, both current production).  If you get the Bug bug, buy 
an older Vibroplex bug with the "I" style damper, and a Vari-Eze (bar style) to 
slow it down.  You can send perfect code from 11wpm up.  The Champion and 
Lightning models had the old"I" damper.  You can then extend the Vari-eze 
straight out the rear of the bug.  You can't do that with newer-style dampers.  
The Viz Vertical is also a great bug that can be slowed down--just ask Tom to 
make you a double-length weight, and extend it up beyond the damper peg.  Some 
will tell you to buy these brass weights sold for another use, or just use 
solder.  These have never worked for me.  If you add too much weight, it screws 
up your timing--you need the longer arm.  

Just please do not become one of the many lids who send at 13wpm with their 
bugs making 30wpm dits.  Ewww!  And keep your contacts clean to avoid that 
awful scratchy sound

I'm happy to work a QRS sked on the air with you on CW anytime.

73

Eric WD6DBM

Tom Blahovici  wrote:

>Ok
>So I'm sure this is going to get a lot of opinions... What's the best key to 
>start with? 
>With the k3 of course.
>
>On Nov 30, 2014 10:04 PM, Ray Sills  wrote:
>>
>> And, don't forget that CW is almost an international language.  Even  
>> if you don't speak any of the many foreign languages, most DX  
>> operators understand the characters that we use for a QSO... QTH,  
>> name, WX, RST.  And when it's a DX station running... well, all you  
>> get is your call and report (5nn).   Many DX operators know enough  
>> English to do the same in voice, but not all.  CW fills in that gap. 
>>
>> 73 de Ray 
>> K2ULR 
>> KX3 #211 
>>
>>
>> On Nov 30, 2014, at 8:08 PM, lmarion wrote: 
>>
>> > If you want to work more DX than you ever thought possible: 
>> > 
>> > 1. Learn enough CW to do basic  exchanges. 
>> > Your speed and proficiency will increase dramatically by just doing  
>> > it. 
>> > 2. Get on 30 meters.  Other countries have not abandoned CW 
>> > like the USA has. You will work DX after DX station. 
>> > 
>> >  You can even call CQ with QRP power and work stations worldwide. 
>> > No need to wait for contests with their special rules and pileups. 
>> > 
>> >  
>> > Leroy AB7CE 
>> > 
>> > 
>> > 
>> > On Sun, 2014-11-30 at 18:32 -0500, Tom Blahovici wrote: 
>> >> Hi 
>> >> Just thought I'd drop a note about the Elecraft CW decoder. I've  
>> >> been on the air for a number of hours hunting new DXCC's with the  
>> >> K3's built in CW decoder. This was my first time using CW, I only  
>> >> know the letters CQ 5NN TU and that's it! ( OK E also) Never been  
>> >> on CW before so all DXCC's were 'new'. 
>> >> Armed with that and a spotting program I racked up 50 new dxccs  
>> >> from around the world. This was a new experience and introduced me  
>> >> to CW. Now I want to learn it so the next time the contest comes  
>> >> around I'll enjoy it that much more. Was a blast. 
>> >> 73's Tom 
>> >> va2fsq.com 
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Re: [Elecraft] K3 CW decoder and CQ CW contest

2014-11-30 Thread Joe Subich, W4TV


A straight key ... any quality straight key.  Don't move to
paddles or a bug until you learn proper timing/spacing.

73,

   ... Joe, W4TV


On 2014-11-30 10:27 PM, Tom Blahovici wrote:

Ok
So I'm sure this is going to get a lot of opinions... What's the best key to 
start with?
With the k3 of course.

On Nov 30, 2014 10:04 PM, Ray Sills  wrote:


And, don't forget that CW is almost an international language.  Even
if you don't speak any of the many foreign languages, most DX
operators understand the characters that we use for a QSO... QTH,
name, WX, RST.  And when it's a DX station running... well, all you
get is your call and report (5nn).   Many DX operators know enough
English to do the same in voice, but not all.  CW fills in that gap.

73 de Ray
K2ULR
KX3 #211


On Nov 30, 2014, at 8:08 PM, lmarion wrote:


If you want to work more DX than you ever thought possible:

1. Learn enough CW to do basic  exchanges.
Your speed and proficiency will increase dramatically by just doing
it.
2. Get on 30 meters.  Other countries have not abandoned CW
like the USA has. You will work DX after DX station.

   You can even call CQ with QRP power and work stations worldwide.
No need to wait for contests with their special rules and pileups.


Leroy AB7CE



On Sun, 2014-11-30 at 18:32 -0500, Tom Blahovici wrote:

Hi
Just thought I'd drop a note about the Elecraft CW decoder. I've
been on the air for a number of hours hunting new DXCC's with the
K3's built in CW decoder. This was my first time using CW, I only
know the letters CQ 5NN TU and that's it! ( OK E also) Never been
on CW before so all DXCC's were 'new'.
Armed with that and a spotting program I racked up 50 new dxccs
from around the world. This was a new experience and introduced me
to CW. Now I want to learn it so the next time the contest comes
around I'll enjoy it that much more. Was a blast.
73's Tom
va2fsq.com

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[Elecraft] What key?

2014-11-30 Thread Ken G Kopp
Blond, brunett, redhead...

Chevy,  Ford, Plymouth ...

It's mostly a matter of personal preference,  but until you "know" CW,
you're not likely to be qualified to know what you like.

If you want a paddle, the Benchers are very good.  There isn't as wide a
choice in straight keys.

If you have ample funds Google N3ZN Keys.  I have one of Tony's
straight keys and one of his paddles.
They're both wonderful.

Many are fond of the Begali line of keys.

73

Ken - K0PP
On Nov 30, 2014 8:27 PM, "Tom Blahovici"  wrote:

> Ok
> So I'm sure this is going to get a lot of opinions... What's the best key
> to start with?
> With the k3 of course.
>
> On Nov 30, 2014 10:04 PM, Ray Sills  wrote:
> >
> > And, don't forget that CW is almost an international language.  Even
> > if you don't speak any of the many foreign languages, most DX
> > operators understand the characters that we use for a QSO... QTH,
> > name, WX, RST.  And when it's a DX station running... well, all you
> > get is your call and report (5nn).   Many DX operators know enough
> > English to do the same in voice, but not all.  CW fills in that gap.
> >
> > 73 de Ray
> > K2ULR
> > KX3 #211
> >
> >
> > On Nov 30, 2014, at 8:08 PM, lmarion wrote:
> >
> > > If you want to work more DX than you ever thought possible:
> > >
> > > 1. Learn enough CW to do basic  exchanges.
> > > Your speed and proficiency will increase dramatically by just doing
> > > it.
> > > 2. Get on 30 meters.  Other countries have not abandoned CW
> > > like the USA has. You will work DX after DX station.
> > >
> > >  You can even call CQ with QRP power and work stations worldwide.
> > > No need to wait for contests with their special rules and pileups.
> > >
> > >
> > > Leroy AB7CE
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > > On Sun, 2014-11-30 at 18:32 -0500, Tom Blahovici wrote:
> > >> Hi
> > >> Just thought I'd drop a note about the Elecraft CW decoder. I've
> > >> been on the air for a number of hours hunting new DXCC's with the
> > >> K3's built in CW decoder. This was my first time using CW, I only
> > >> know the letters CQ 5NN TU and that's it! ( OK E also) Never been
> > >> on CW before so all DXCC's were 'new'.
> > >> Armed with that and a spotting program I racked up 50 new dxccs
> > >> from around the world. This was a new experience and introduced me
> > >> to CW. Now I want to learn it so the next time the contest comes
> > >> around I'll enjoy it that much more. Was a blast.
> > >> 73's Tom
> > >> va2fsq.com
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Re: [Elecraft] K3 CW decoder and CQ CW contest

2014-11-30 Thread Fred Jensen
Tom ... get a paddle and plug it into your K3!  Many will tell you you 
need to start with a straight key, and only when you're competent can 
you actually try out a paddle.  You will find they are universally old, 
as am I, but get a paddle, plug it in and send!


I use the Bencher HexKey from Elecraft at home, my field radio uses a 
little paddle from American Morse Equipment ... other than the checks 
I've written, I have no financial interest, etc, etc.  I have a couple 
of standard Benchers too, one I use left handed on the Winkey.


I've used several of the "high end" paddles [not mine] and they are very 
smooth and easy.  That's probably not your goal right now, give it time 
and practice and maybe it will be.


Welcome to the world of Morse!!

73,

Fred K6DGW
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On 11/30/2014 7:27 PM, Tom Blahovici wrote:

Ok
So I'm sure this is going to get a lot of opinions... What's the best key to 
start with?
With the k3 of course.


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Re: [Elecraft] K3 CW decoder and CQ CW contest

2014-11-30 Thread Tom Blahovici
Ok
So I'm sure this is going to get a lot of opinions... What's the best key to 
start with? 
With the k3 of course.

On Nov 30, 2014 10:04 PM, Ray Sills  wrote:
>
> And, don't forget that CW is almost an international language.  Even  
> if you don't speak any of the many foreign languages, most DX  
> operators understand the characters that we use for a QSO... QTH,  
> name, WX, RST.  And when it's a DX station running... well, all you  
> get is your call and report (5nn).   Many DX operators know enough  
> English to do the same in voice, but not all.  CW fills in that gap. 
>
> 73 de Ray 
> K2ULR 
> KX3 #211 
>
>
> On Nov 30, 2014, at 8:08 PM, lmarion wrote: 
>
> > If you want to work more DX than you ever thought possible: 
> > 
> > 1. Learn enough CW to do basic  exchanges. 
> > Your speed and proficiency will increase dramatically by just doing  
> > it. 
> > 2. Get on 30 meters.  Other countries have not abandoned CW 
> > like the USA has. You will work DX after DX station. 
> > 
> >  You can even call CQ with QRP power and work stations worldwide. 
> > No need to wait for contests with their special rules and pileups. 
> > 
> >  
> > Leroy AB7CE 
> > 
> > 
> > 
> > On Sun, 2014-11-30 at 18:32 -0500, Tom Blahovici wrote: 
> >> Hi 
> >> Just thought I'd drop a note about the Elecraft CW decoder. I've  
> >> been on the air for a number of hours hunting new DXCC's with the  
> >> K3's built in CW decoder. This was my first time using CW, I only  
> >> know the letters CQ 5NN TU and that's it! ( OK E also) Never been  
> >> on CW before so all DXCC's were 'new'. 
> >> Armed with that and a spotting program I racked up 50 new dxccs  
> >> from around the world. This was a new experience and introduced me  
> >> to CW. Now I want to learn it so the next time the contest comes  
> >> around I'll enjoy it that much more. Was a blast. 
> >> 73's Tom 
> >> va2fsq.com 
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Re: [Elecraft] K3 CW decoder and CQ CW contest

2014-11-30 Thread Ray Sills
And, don't forget that CW is almost an international language.  Even  
if you don't speak any of the many foreign languages, most DX  
operators understand the characters that we use for a QSO... QTH,  
name, WX, RST.  And when it's a DX station running... well, all you  
get is your call and report (5nn).   Many DX operators know enough  
English to do the same in voice, but not all.  CW fills in that gap.


73 de Ray
K2ULR
KX3 #211


On Nov 30, 2014, at 8:08 PM, lmarion wrote:


If you want to work more DX than you ever thought possible:

1. Learn enough CW to do basic  exchanges.
Your speed and proficiency will increase dramatically by just doing  
it.

2. Get on 30 meters.  Other countries have not abandoned CW
like the USA has. You will work DX after DX station.

 You can even call CQ with QRP power and work stations worldwide.
No need to wait for contests with their special rules and pileups.

 
Leroy AB7CE




On Sun, 2014-11-30 at 18:32 -0500, Tom Blahovici wrote:

Hi
Just thought I'd drop a note about the Elecraft CW decoder. I've  
been on the air for a number of hours hunting new DXCC's with the  
K3's built in CW decoder. This was my first time using CW, I only  
know the letters CQ 5NN TU and that's it! ( OK E also) Never been  
on CW before so all DXCC's were 'new'.
Armed with that and a spotting program I racked up 50 new dxccs  
from around the world. This was a new experience and introduced me  
to CW. Now I want to learn it so the next time the contest comes  
around I'll enjoy it that much more. Was a blast.

73's Tom
va2fsq.com

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Re: [Elecraft] K3 CW decoder and CQ CW contest

2014-11-30 Thread Tom Blahovici

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Re: [Elecraft] K3 CW decoder and CQ CW contest

2014-11-30 Thread k3ndm
Tom, 
I've used the Elecraft CW decoder; it's OK, but not great. I now use CWSkimmer. 
It appears to be heads and shoulder above what Elecraft coded. Some my buddies 
use CWget. They seem to really like that program. 

However, there is technique that needs to be learned. As I stated, I use 
Skimmer. I set it up for the proper offset and CW tone I use, the same as that 
for my KX3. At this point the trick is to "zero beat" the station you want to 
work using the spot button on the KX3. This should align the other guy for 
proper decoding. You won't do runs this way, but you will work a lot of 
stations. It worked amazingly well this weekend on 40 where the QRM level was 
unreal. I use search and pounce for contesting and do pretty well. Try it, and 
good luck. 

73, 
Barry 
K3NDM 


- Original Message -

From: "Tom Blahovici"  
To: "lmarion"  
Cc: "elecraft"  
Sent: Sunday, November 30, 2014 8:13:19 PM 
Subject: Re: [Elecraft] K3 CW decoder and CQ CW contest 

That sounds interesting. I tried calling CQ with the terminal but that was a 
disaster. Inevitably, the answering station was enough off frequency that the 
radio wouldn't decode. 
Also one thing I noticed with the decode. 9 out of 10 times the station 
returned my call, the first letter was decoded incorrectly, and no, I did send 
a V. 
73's Tom 

On Nov 30, 2014 8:08 PM, lmarion  wrote: 
> 
> If you want to work more DX than you ever thought possible: 
> 
> 1. Learn enough CW to do basic exchanges. 
> Your speed and proficiency will increase dramatically by just doing it. 
> 2. Get on 30 meters. Other countries have not abandoned CW 
> like the USA has. You will work DX after DX station. 
> 
> You can even call CQ with QRP power and work stations worldwide. 
> No need to wait for contests with their special rules and pileups. 
> 
> Leroy 
> AB7CE 
> 
> 
> 
> On Sun, 2014-11-30 at 18:32 -0500, Tom Blahovici wrote: 
> > Hi 
> > Just thought I'd drop a note about the Elecraft CW decoder. I've been on 
> > the air for a number of hours hunting new DXCC's with the K3's built in CW 
> > decoder. This was my first time using CW, I only know the letters CQ 5NN 
> > TU and that's it! ( OK E also) Never been on CW before so all DXCC's were 
> > 'new'. 
> > Armed with that and a spotting program I racked up 50 new dxccs from 
> > around the world. This was a new experience and introduced me to CW. Now I 
> > want to learn it so the next time the contest comes around I'll enjoy it 
> > that much more. Was a blast. 
> > 73's Tom 
> > va2fsq.com 
> > 
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Re: [Elecraft] K3 CW decoder and CQ CW contest

2014-11-30 Thread Jim Allen
Even better than calling CQ, listen.  Then, follow the advice of The Old
Timer:

"When you hear 'em, call 'em!"

It's just that simple.

Mastery of CW will pay rich dividends if you want to be a DXer.  All the
top ones have mastered it.

73 de W6OGC  Jim Allen

On Sun, Nov 30, 2014 at 7:08 PM, lmarion  wrote:

> If you want to work more DX than you ever thought possible:
>
> 1. Learn enough CW to do basic  exchanges.
> Your speed and proficiency will increase dramatically by just doing it.
> 2. Get on 30 meters.  Other countries have not abandoned CW
> like the USA has. You will work DX after DX station.
>
>   You can even call CQ with QRP power and work stations worldwide.
> No need to wait for contests with their special rules and pileups.
>
>  Leroy
> AB7CE
>
>
>
> On Sun, 2014-11-30 at 18:32 -0500, Tom Blahovici wrote:
>
>> Hi
>> Just thought I'd drop a note about the Elecraft CW decoder. I've been on
>> the air for a number of hours hunting new DXCC's with the K3's built in CW
>> decoder. This was my first time using CW, I only know the letters CQ 5NN TU
>> and that's it! ( OK E also) Never been on CW before so all DXCC's were
>> 'new'.
>> Armed with that and a spotting program I racked up 50 new dxccs from
>> around the world. This was a new experience and introduced me to CW. Now I
>> want to learn it so the next time the contest comes around I'll enjoy it
>> that much more. Was a blast.
>> 73's Tom
>> va2fsq.com
>>
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Re: [Elecraft] K3 CW decoder and CQ CW contest

2014-11-30 Thread Tom Blahovici
That sounds interesting. I tried calling CQ with the terminal but that was a 
disaster. Inevitably, the answering station was enough off frequency that the 
radio wouldn't decode.
Also one thing I noticed with the decode. 9 out of 10 times the station 
returned my call,  the first letter was decoded incorrectly,  and no, I did 
send a V. 
73's Tom

On Nov 30, 2014 8:08 PM, lmarion  wrote:
>
> If you want to work more DX than you ever thought possible: 
>
> 1. Learn enough CW to do basic  exchanges. 
> Your speed and proficiency will increase dramatically by just doing it. 
> 2. Get on 30 meters.  Other countries have not abandoned CW 
> like the USA has. You will work DX after DX station. 
>
>    You can even call CQ with QRP power and work stations worldwide. 
> No need to wait for contests with their special rules and pileups. 
>
>   Leroy 
> AB7CE 
>
>
>
> On Sun, 2014-11-30 at 18:32 -0500, Tom Blahovici wrote: 
> > Hi 
> > Just thought I'd drop a note about the Elecraft CW decoder. I've been on 
> > the air for a number of hours hunting new DXCC's with the K3's built in CW 
> > decoder. This was my first time using CW, I only know the letters CQ 5NN 
> > TU and that's it! ( OK E also) Never been on CW before so all DXCC's were 
> > 'new'. 
> > Armed with that and a spotting program I racked up 50 new dxccs from 
> > around the world. This was a new experience and introduced me to CW. Now I 
> > want to learn it so the next time the contest comes around I'll enjoy it 
> > that much more. Was a blast. 
> > 73's Tom 
> > va2fsq.com 
> > 
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Re: [Elecraft] K3 CW decoder and CQ CW contest

2014-11-30 Thread lmarion

If you want to work more DX than you ever thought possible:

1. Learn enough CW to do basic  exchanges.
Your speed and proficiency will increase dramatically by just doing it.
2. Get on 30 meters.  Other countries have not abandoned CW
like the USA has. You will work DX after DX station.

  You can even call CQ with QRP power and work stations worldwide.
No need to wait for contests with their special rules and pileups.

 Leroy 
AB7CE




On Sun, 2014-11-30 at 18:32 -0500, Tom Blahovici wrote:

Hi
Just thought I'd drop a note about the Elecraft CW decoder. I've been on 
the air for a number of hours hunting new DXCC's with the K3's built in CW 
decoder. This was my first time using CW, I only know the letters CQ 5NN 
TU and that's it! ( OK E also) Never been on CW before so all DXCC's were 
'new'.
Armed with that and a spotting program I racked up 50 new dxccs from 
around the world. This was a new experience and introduced me to CW. Now I 
want to learn it so the next time the contest comes around I'll enjoy it 
that much more. Was a blast.

73's Tom
va2fsq.com


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Re: [Elecraft] K3 CW decoder and CQ CW contest

2014-11-30 Thread Timothy Gordish
This also was my first contest with my new KX-3.  I didn't use the decoder 
because I use mostly CW in my every day ops.  The interface with my new logging 
program with its access to DX spots gave me the most DXCC contacts ever!  I 
worked the world in couple of hour with only 5 watts.

Sent from my iPod

On Nov 30, 2014, at 16:32, Tom Blahovici  wrote:

> Hi
> Just thought I'd drop a note about the Elecraft CW decoder. I've been on the 
> air for a number of hours hunting new DXCC's with the K3's built in CW 
> decoder. This was my first time using CW, I only know the letters CQ 5NN TU 
> and that's it! ( OK E also) Never been on CW before so all DXCC's were 'new'. 
> Armed with that and a spotting program I racked up 50 new dxccs from around 
> the world. This was a new experience and introduced me to CW. Now I want to 
> learn it so the next time the contest comes around I'll enjoy it that much 
> more. Was a blast. 
> 73's Tom 
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Re: [Elecraft] K3 CW decoder and CQ CW contest

2014-11-30 Thread David Cole
You will find that your DX increases a lot if you use CW!  :)
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On Sun, 2014-11-30 at 18:32 -0500, Tom Blahovici wrote:
> Hi
> Just thought I'd drop a note about the Elecraft CW decoder. I've been on the 
> air for a number of hours hunting new DXCC's with the K3's built in CW 
> decoder. This was my first time using CW, I only know the letters CQ 5NN TU 
> and that's it! ( OK E also) Never been on CW before so all DXCC's were 'new'. 
> Armed with that and a spotting program I racked up 50 new dxccs from around 
> the world. This was a new experience and introduced me to CW. Now I want to 
> learn it so the next time the contest comes around I'll enjoy it that much 
> more. Was a blast. 
> 73's Tom 
> va2fsq.com
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2014-11-30 Thread George
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Re: [Elecraft] K3 CW decoder and CQ CW contest

2014-11-30 Thread Fred Jensen

Tom,

cwops.org and click on CW Academy.

73,

Fred K6DGW
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On 11/30/2014 3:32 PM, Tom Blahovici wrote:


This was a
new experience and introduced me to CW. Now I want to learn it so the
next time the contest comes around I'll enjoy it that much more. Was
a blast. 73's Tom va2fsq.com

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[Elecraft] K3 CW decoder and CQ CW contest

2014-11-30 Thread Tom Blahovici
Hi
Just thought I'd drop a note about the Elecraft CW decoder. I've been on the 
air for a number of hours hunting new DXCC's with the K3's built in CW decoder. 
This was my first time using CW, I only know the letters CQ 5NN TU and that's 
it! ( OK E also) Never been on CW before so all DXCC's were 'new'. 
Armed with that and a spotting program I racked up 50 new dxccs from around the 
world. This was a new experience and introduced me to CW. Now I want to learn 
it so the next time the contest comes around I'll enjoy it that much more. Was 
a blast. 
73's Tom 
va2fsq.com
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[Elecraft] Elecraft CW Net Announcement

2014-11-30 Thread Kevin

Good Day,
   Please join us this afternoon and evening.

14050 kHz at 2300z Sunday (3 PM PST Sunday)
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73,
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Re: [Elecraft] K-Line Full break-in

2014-11-30 Thread Guy Olinger K2AV
QSK and full break-in mean the same thing. Not full break-in means that you
are holding TX state between bauds. That is what happens when you turn QSK
off. Fast QSK or QRQ QSK (CW QRQ option in CONFIG menu) has to do with
making the TX/RX state flips take so little time that you can hear between
bauds at 70 wpm.

73, Guy K2AV

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> I set my K3 to QSK but I don't know how to make it FULL BREAK-IN. Is there
> some thing in the MENU how to set it to full break-in?
>
>
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Re: [Elecraft] K-Line Full break-in

2014-11-30 Thread k5oai
Hold down the QSK side of the [BAND] button
watch the VFO B text
Holding down the QSK side again, toggles between FULL and SIMI break in.
the VFO B text will tell you when it switches, 
as well as the QSK text under VBO A's display when you are in FULL

from page 30 in the manual:


Hold QSK to select full break-in (QSK icon on) or
semi break-in operation. QSK allows others to
“break” your CW transmission by sending one or
two characters. With semi break-in selected (QSK
off), the K3 returns to receive mode after a time
delay you set using DELAY.
VOX must be turned on in CW mode to enable
both full and semi break-in operation. If PTT is
selected (VOX icon off), transmit must be activated
using PTT or by tapping XMIT . PTT is sometimes
activated using a foot switch.
For ultra-fast CW full break-in at up to 100
WPM, set CONFIG:CW QRQ to ON. If CW
QRQ is OFF, max speed using VOX is 60 WPM,
and PTT is required for 60 to 100 WPM.


73 & GB
K5OAI Sam





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Re: [Elecraft] KX1 - Q4, Q5 resistance check

2014-11-30 Thread Don Wilhelm

Johnny,

Those changes would not make a significant difference in the readings 
except for the Q6 base to ground measurement.


73,
Don W3FPR

On 11/30/2014 10:26 AM, Johnny Siu wrote:

Hello Don,
Thanks.  I was given an application note Rev B, April 2006.  The R11 and R30 
were replaced by 4.7 ohm and 33 ohm respectively.
I followed this note and replaced these two resistors instead of the values 
mentioned in KX1 Owner's Manual May 2010.
Is this matter the resistance check?
73
Johnny VR2XMC
寄件人︰ Don Wilhelm 
  收件人︰ Johnny Siu ; Elecraft 
  傳送日期︰ 2014年11月30日 (週日) 10:24 PM
  主題︰ Re: [Elecraft] KX1 - Q4, Q5 resistance check

Johnny,


That is too low.  Check the value of R24, R9, R27, R11 and R10. Check
carefully for any solder bridges.
You might also want to try new batteries in your DMM and try reversing
the leads on your DMM just in case its polarity is reversed from normal.

73,
Don W3FPR



On 11/30/2014 9:11 AM, Johnny Siu wrote:

Hello KX1 builders,
The construction of KX1 runs all ok up to page 54.  However, the resistance check 
for Q4 base and collector, Q5 base only give 5.6k resistance towards ground 
instead of >10k as mentioned in the manual.
Please advise whether this is still ok.  I would like to make sure that before 
going to alignment & test - part III.
73
Johnny VR2XMC




   
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[Elecraft] KX1 - Q4, Q5 resistance check

2014-11-30 Thread Johnny Siu
Hello Don,
Thanks.  I was given an application note Rev B, April 2006.  The R11 and R30 
were replaced by 4.7 ohm and 33 ohm respectively.
I followed this note and replaced these two resistors instead of the values 
mentioned in KX1 Owner's Manual May 2010.
Is this matter the resistance check?
73
Johnny VR2XMC
   寄件人︰ Don Wilhelm 
 收件人︰ Johnny Siu ; Elecraft  
 傳送日期︰ 2014年11月30日 (週日) 10:24 PM
 主題︰ Re: [Elecraft] KX1 - Q4, Q5 resistance check
   
Johnny,

That is too low.  Check the value of R24, R9, R27, R11 and R10. Check 
carefully for any solder bridges.
You might also want to try new batteries in your DMM and try reversing 
the leads on your DMM just in case its polarity is reversed from normal.

73,
Don W3FPR



On 11/30/2014 9:11 AM, Johnny Siu wrote:
> Hello KX1 builders,
> The construction of KX1 runs all ok up to page 54.  However, the resistance 
> check for Q4 base and collector, Q5 base only give 5.6k resistance towards 
> ground instead of >10k as mentioned in the manual.
> Please advise whether this is still ok.  I would like to make sure that 
> before going to alignment & test - part III.
> 73
> Johnny VR2XMC
>



  
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Re: [Elecraft] KX1 - Q4, Q5 resistance check

2014-11-30 Thread Don Wilhelm

Johnny,

That is too low.  Check the value of R24, R9, R27, R11 and R10. Check 
carefully for any solder bridges.
You might also want to try new batteries in your DMM and try reversing 
the leads on your DMM just in case its polarity is reversed from normal.


73,
Don W3FPR

On 11/30/2014 9:11 AM, Johnny Siu wrote:

Hello KX1 builders,
The construction of KX1 runs all ok up to page 54.  However, the resistance check 
for Q4 base and collector, Q5 base only give 5.6k resistance towards ground 
instead of >10k as mentioned in the manual.
Please advise whether this is still ok.  I would like to make sure that before 
going to alignment & test - part III.
73
Johnny VR2XMC



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[Elecraft] KX1 - Q4, Q5 resistance check

2014-11-30 Thread Johnny Siu
Hello KX1 builders,
The construction of KX1 runs all ok up to page 54.  However, the resistance 
check for Q4 base and collector, Q5 base only give 5.6k resistance towards 
ground instead of >10k as mentioned in the manual.
Please advise whether this is still ok.  I would like to make sure that before 
going to alignment & test - part III.
73
Johnny VR2XMC
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