Re: [Elecraft] Using CAL FIL and Spectrogram to set up the K2 filters

2015-02-26 Thread M5KVK - Gareth
Good points, Don.
Last night, I experimented using DM780 (the datamodes program in the HRD suite) 
to visualise the audio rather than using Spectogram. I found that the waterfall 
made it much easier to see the "shape" of the filters. I don't have a noise 
generator so I'm using band noise. The randomness makes it quite difficult to 
see the shape in Spectogram; particularly at low audio; whereas a waterfall is 
more defined.

I'll return to the setting up of the filters at the weekend and report back.

Incidentally, using the waterfall exposed that I hadn't actually set the VCO 
calibration as I originally thought. As I said earlier, I actually tuned off 
WWV by 600Hz. Now I'm using a waterfall I can see that I was actually tuning 
the 100Hz timecode subcarrier.

Gareth, M5KVK

Sent from my iPad

> On 26 Feb 2015, at 14:01, Don Wilhelm  wrote:
> 
> Gareth,
> 
> Good work.  May I offer a couple suggestions:
> 1) On SSB filters other than the FL1 OP1 filter, look carefully at the actual 
> filter width.  On many K2s, the actual width is far wider than that indicated 
> by the K2 display.  You ideally want to have each filter progression about 
> 200 to 300 Hz more narrow then the prior filter.  The easiest way to set that 
> up is to first do LSB - the low frequency slope of the passband will not move 
> substantially as you adjust the width.  The set the BFOs for the filters 
> after adjusting00 the width.
> 
> 2) Rather than using SSB FL4 for PSK and other data modes, turn on RTTY in 
> the secondary menu.  That gives you another set of filters and an independent 
> compression setting from SSB and you don't have to remember to turn 
> compression off when using data modes.  I normally set RTTY FL1 the same as 
> SSB FL1 (including the BFO settings - RTTY is LSB and RTTY rev is USB) and 
> then set the FL2 to 1000 Hz, FL3 to 700 Hz and FL4 to 400 Hz widths.  I 
> center those 3 filters on 1000 Hz.  If you are not able to properly center 
> the 400 Hz wide filter, you will have to pad the BFO with a small value 
> capacitor (try 15 to 22pF) between pins 6 and 3 of RF board U11 - then 
> recheck the BFO range.  If you do have to make that change, you will need to 
> re-do all the BFO alignments.
> 
> 73,
> Don W3FPR
> 
>> On 2/26/2015 8:29 AM, Gareth - M5KVK wrote:
>> Having finally got my KSB2 board working (it was a hi-resistance solder 
>> joint: enough to depress performance but not stop all signals), and 
>> calibrated the dial, I turned to setting up the filters.
>> 
>> I started with the filter widths and BFO settings in the KSB2 manual, but it 
>> didn't sound right. So I decided to use WWV and Spectrogram.
>> 
>> Now that I knew that the VFO was OK, I set it to 1.00. No audio on LSB 
>> or USB, which is good.
>> I then tuned off by 600Hz to create a steady signal at 1.60kHz 
>> (.40kHz on the other sideband) and displayed the audio on spectrogram 
>> with a 600Hz marker set.
>> I then went through CAL FIL, adjusting the BFO so that the audio tone was 
>> exactly 600Hz.
>> 
>> I did this on all modes and filter widths: except FL4 on LSB and USB, which 
>> I adjusted for a 1000Hz centre (so I can use them for PSK31).
>> 
>> I was surprised how far off the displayed spectrum was with the factory 
>> settings. On USB FL4, the centre was at 400Hz with the manual’s suggested 
>> BFO setting.
>> 
>> 73, Gareth M5KVK
> 
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Re: [Elecraft] [Bulk] OT: Verizon's response to Net Neutrality: in Morse code!!

2015-02-26 Thread Gary Smith
I keep getting ads for Comcast & Verizon on how much I will benefit 
from their services. 

Come here, want to buy some candy?

My reality is I pay our local Cable provider $102/month for expanded 
Basic which has all of the major networks I am interested in. With 
this I also get internet which officially is 100Mbps download/20Mbps 
upload. In reality I get 125Mbps download/30Mbps upload. None of my 
downloading is throttled, ever.

No way Verizon or Comcast will give me all this for $102/month.

73,
Gary
KA1J

> Looks like they are really p*ssed off that they are not going to be able to
> charge all that extra money for using fast channels. Guess they were
> counting on getting that in their executive bonuses. I'm sure the repairmen
> weren't going to get any of it.
> 
> The internet is a national resource. No one should be able to "corner" it.
> Instead try making money the old-fashioned way...
> 
> I pay money every month for extra bandwidth. That ought to be enough to
> keep that bandwidth and not have it whittled down by slow tracks for some
> of my preferred stuff. Slow tracks are the inevitable result of fast
> tracks. Further **I** want to decide where I spend **my** paid-for extra
> bandwidth, not have it decided for me by Verizon based on money **they**
> make. .
> 
> No sympathy, but you probably already figured that out.
> 
> 73, Guy.
> 
> On Thu, Feb 26, 2015 at 8:14 PM, Harry Yingst via Elecraft <
> elecraft@mailman.qth.net> wrote:
> 
> > Even the Translated one is interesting
> >   From: Tom McCulloch 
> >  To: elecraft@mailman.qth.net
> >  Sent: Thursday, February 26, 2015 6:53 PM
> >  Subject: Re: [Elecraft] [Bulk] OT: Verizon's response to Net Neutrality:
> > in Morse code!!
> >
> > I'm sure Verizon's sarcasm will be lost on most!
> >
> > Tom
> > WB2QDG
> > K2 1103
> >
> >
> > On 2/26/2015 6:32 PM, Al Gulseth wrote:
> > > "- --- -.. .- -.-- .. ...  -.. . -.-. .. ... .. --- -.  -... -.--  -
> >  .  ..-. -.-. -.-."
> > > (and so on: I think you get the drift - yes, it's this way on their
> > website.)
> > > There's a small note at the bottom stating "Readers in the 21st century
> > can
> > > read the translated statement here":
> > >
> > >
> > http://publicpolicy.verizon.com/blog/entry/fccs-throwback-thursday-move-imposes-1930s-rules-on-the-internet
> > >
> > > 73, Al
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Re: [Elecraft] [Bulk] OT: Verizon's response to Net Neutrality: in Morse code!!

2015-02-26 Thread Edward R Cole
I had an issue with my ISP a few years ago.  We had been using DSL 
for a few years without trouble when all of a sudden our access would 
drop out about once every 2-3 minutes making is impossible to 
download or upload e-mail or view a website.


I called the tech line of our ISP and asked that they troubleshoot 
it.  They came back saying that our connection equipment at the local 
wire site was old and needed to be upgraded (which would take several 
months they implied).  I countered by saying that its real "funny" 
that we have had good fast service for a couple years and now all of 
sudden our equipment is unable to support the service we have been 
enjoying.  I then said "that certainly the phone company didn't swap 
out our equipment (with old junk) to turn up a new customer - did 
they?"  Our ISP was expanding at an explosive pace so it wouldn't 
surprise me if they did just that.


Then I said our service better be fixed, today or I will file a 
complaint against them with the State RCA (Regulatory Commission of 
Alaska).  Then I hung up.  Our internet service was fixed in one 
hour...and never had another issue like that, again.


Funny how speaking the "magic words" solves problems.

73, Ed - KL7UW
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Re: [Elecraft] [Bulk] OT: Verizon's response to Net Neutrality: in Morse code!!

2015-02-26 Thread Kenneth Talbott
The only ones who will end up with what they want are members of your out of
control nannycrat government.  Free enterprise seems to always find a way to
resolve disputes - unless Washington gets involved then everyone loses -
FOREVER.  Remember:
No man's life, liberty, or   property is safe while the   legislature is in
session.   -- Mark Twain (1866)
Ken - ke4rg
-Original Message-
From: Elecraft [mailto:elecraft-boun...@mailman.qth.net] On Behalf Of Cliff
Frescura
Sent: Friday, February 27, 2015 12:06 AM
To: elecraft@mailman.qth.net
Subject: Re: [Elecraft] [Bulk] OT: Verizon's response to Net Neutrality: in
Morse code!!
*Netflix* got what they wanted.  They had better lobbyists and took a
dispute between them and Comcast, expanded the scope to include the entire
internet

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Re: [Elecraft] [Bulk] OT: Verizon's response to Net Neutrality: in Morse code!!

2015-02-26 Thread W0MU Mike Fatchett

Dick,

I am curious who do you think is going to pay for who ever it is to 
build a system to you out in the desert?


That is a trade off for moving out in the boon docks.  When we moved to 
Colorado we had party lines.  We lived in Parker and that was considered 
at the time WAY out there.


My office is in Castle Rock, CO a town of 30k plus.  We have one 
provider for internet.  Century link.  I think it is up to 9mb now DSL.  
Xfininity is working on bringing their cable down the road. Project to 
take up to 9 months.  I have no clue how they are paying for it.


While you may get your internet, what you have to pay for it might make 
you ill.


Let us not forget all the new add on taxes and fees that will be paying 
because of all these regulations and the expense that the providers are 
going to have to pay to stay within the regulations. Who is going to 
police this?  Oh the FCC needs to hire more staff. Who pays for that?  
The tax payer.  More taxes.


I think we were just scared of the big ole FCC back in the day.  I don't 
think they were much different, we just got smarter.


There is no pot of gold.  The money comes from somebody.

Mike W0MU

On 2/26/2015 10:51 PM, Richard Solomon wrote:
Unless you are a customer out in the Desert, then you are stuck with 
DSL and streaming

movies that look like the ones on my 1953 Admiral back in the B&W days.

If all this means I get 100 MB downloads in my lifetime, I am all for it.

73, Dick, W1KSZ

On 2/26/2015 7:47 PM, Scott Manthe wrote:

Tony,
All of Netflix's customers are the beneficiary of this ruling, as 
well as anyone who uses Youtube, Hulu or any other streaming service. 
Netflix uses the most bandwidth because they have the most customers. 
It isn't only the companies  like these that benefit, it's their 
customers. The Internet doesn't exist as some libertarian fantasy 
world. The only ones that were going to benefit from from being able 
to turn the hose off and on were the one's who own the hose, not the 
one's who use it. Net neutrality is not a bad thing.


73,
Scott, N9AA


On 2/26/15 8:57 PM, Tony Estep wrote:

On Thu, Feb 26, 2015 at 7:31 PM, Guy Olinger K2AV 
wrote:


...internet is a national resource. No one should be able to "corner"
it
==
  Unfortunately, so-called "neutrality" means that one company, 
Netflix, can
corner it without paying for it. Netflix accounts for up to 35% of 
internet

traffic, and is really the one and only beneficiary of this ruling.
Everybody else is subsidizing them. In any event, I'm just glad I'm 
not a

regulator.

Tony KT0NY



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Re: [Elecraft] [Bulk] OT: Verizon's response to Net Neutrality: in Morse code!!

2015-02-26 Thread Cliff Frescura
In my younger years I thought of the FCC of a regulatory and technology
body.  My thinking changed when UPS successfully lobbied the FCC in 1989 to
reallocate part of 220MHz from Amateur to Commercial service.

UPS argued that the reallocation was in the "public interest" and they would
put the spectrum to good use.

After a ruling in their favor, UPS never commercially deployed and the
spectrum was unused for quite some time.

Be sure to read the fine print and understand the players.  One person's
regulation is another person's corporatism.

73,

K3LL/6

-Original Message-
From: Elecraft [mailto:elecraft-boun...@mailman.qth.net] On Behalf Of Jim
Brown
Sent: Thursday, February 26, 2015 10:28 PM
To: elecraft@mailman.qth.net
Subject: Re: [Elecraft] [Bulk] OT: Verizon's response to Net Neutrality: in
Morse code!!

I'm with you, Phil.  As I recall, you're retired FCC staff.  If anyone
understands FCC Rules, you do.

I WANT (caps added for emphasis) FCC regulation of our airwaves, and of our
internet. I'm old enough to remember when the FCC had staff to enforce their
Rules, and things were much better then. We lived in fear of the FCC, and
kept our noses clean. Anyone who subscribes to cable has experienced bills
that increase for no reason, and when it's the only game in town, as it is
for my internet, all we can do is pay it. So YES, YES, YES, I want someone
sitting in Comcast's shoulder. These assholes are billing me monthly rent
for a cable modem that I BOUGHT from a local store in 2006, and there isn't
a damned thing I can do about it. YES, I want regulation!

Now, those who demand "small government" have made the FCC toothless,
without the budget to enforce their own Rules. THAT'S why we have RF noise
from all those consumer devices that make it difficult to use our ham
stations, and even to tune in AM radio.

73, Jim K9YC

On Thu,2/26/2015 8:09 PM, Phil Kane wrote:
> That's what all the Title II fracas is about.  Those of us in the 
> professional (regulatory) field fault the FCC of 20 years ago for not 
> insisting on that but creating this "information service" category 
> rather than putting them in the "telecommunications service" category 
> from the beginning.
>
> As hams we are used to having the FCC look over our shoulders to make 
> sure that we play by the rules.  It's time that the "broadband"
> infrastructure providers get a taste of that.

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Re: [Elecraft] [Bulk] OT: Verizon's response to Net Neutrality: in Morse code!!

2015-02-26 Thread Jim Brown
I'm with you, Phil.  As I recall, you're retired FCC staff.  If anyone 
understands FCC Rules, you do.


I WANT (caps added for emphasis) FCC regulation of our airwaves, and of 
our internet. I'm old enough to remember when the FCC had staff to 
enforce their Rules, and things were much better then. We lived in fear 
of the FCC, and kept our noses clean. Anyone who subscribes to cable has 
experienced bills that increase for no reason, and when it's the only 
game in town, as it is for my internet, all we can do is pay it. So YES, 
YES, YES, I want someone sitting in Comcast's shoulder. These assholes 
are billing me monthly rent for a cable modem that I BOUGHT from a local 
store in 2006, and there isn't a damned thing I can do about it. YES, I 
want regulation!


Now, those who demand "small government" have made the FCC toothless, 
without the budget to enforce their own Rules. THAT'S why we have RF 
noise from all those consumer devices that make it difficult to use our 
ham stations, and even to tune in AM radio.


73, Jim K9YC

On Thu,2/26/2015 8:09 PM, Phil Kane wrote:

That's what all the Title II fracas is about.  Those of us in the
professional (regulatory) field fault the FCC of 20 years ago for not
insisting on that but creating this "information service" category
rather than putting them in the "telecommunications service" category
from the beginning.

As hams we are used to having the FCC look over our shoulders to make
sure that we play by the rules.  It's time that the "broadband"
infrastructure providers get a taste of that.


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Re: [Elecraft] [Bulk] OT: Verizon's response to Net Neutrality: in Morse code!!

2015-02-26 Thread Richard Solomon
Unless you are a customer out in the Desert, then you are stuck with DSL 
and streaming

movies that look like the ones on my 1953 Admiral back in the B&W days.

If all this means I get 100 MB downloads in my lifetime, I am all for it.

73, Dick, W1KSZ

On 2/26/2015 7:47 PM, Scott Manthe wrote:

Tony,
All of Netflix's customers are the beneficiary of this ruling, as well 
as anyone who uses Youtube, Hulu or any other streaming service. 
Netflix uses the most bandwidth because they have the most customers. 
It isn't only the companies  like these that benefit, it's their 
customers. The Internet doesn't exist as some libertarian fantasy 
world. The only ones that were going to benefit from from being able 
to turn the hose off and on were the one's who own the hose, not the 
one's who use it. Net neutrality is not a bad thing.


73,
Scott, N9AA


On 2/26/15 8:57 PM, Tony Estep wrote:

On Thu, Feb 26, 2015 at 7:31 PM, Guy Olinger K2AV 
wrote:


...internet is a national resource. No one should be able to "corner"
it
==
  Unfortunately, so-called "neutrality" means that one company, 
Netflix, can
corner it without paying for it. Netflix accounts for up to 35% of 
internet

traffic, and is really the one and only beneficiary of this ruling.
Everybody else is subsidizing them. In any event, I'm just glad I'm 
not a

regulator.

Tony KT0NY



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Re: [Elecraft] [Bulk] OT: Verizon's response to Net Neutrality: in Morse code!!

2015-02-26 Thread dave


Be careful what you wish for here. Keep in mind that once the 
entrenched providers get the regs they crave new services will grind 
to a halt. There will simply be too many barriers to entry. No new 
competitors will enter the field. At least not until the subsidies get 
so grossly unbalanced that the pot of gold is then worth the effort 
(see MCI vs AT&T).


The internet has grown rapidly *because* it is not regulated. Once it 
gets regulated then everything must go through regulatory approval. 
There will fewer and fewer new services.


A good example of this is 'high speed' - 64 kb - data service to the 
home. AT&T had the technology available in the early to mid 70's. 
Called it ISDN. But due to both internal politics and regulatory 
issues it was not rolled out until the early 90's. Much too late. The 
same thing will happen once the pols take over the internet. Nothing 
will get approved without them getting their cut.


As for those who say the the internet is a utility . . . well . . . 
your electric service is a utility. Does everyone pay the same 
electric bill no matter how much electricity they use? Broadband 
should be no different. Those who use the most should pay the most. 
There is no justification for taxing those who use little bandwidth to 
subsidize the heavy users. Let the heavy users pay their fair share 
and not burden those who are light users.


Just as in electricity, it is cheap and easy to measure the quantity 
consumed by each user. No justification whatsoever for charging one 
flat fee to all (none that is, other than "I want somebody else to pay 
for my bandwidth").


73 de dave
ab9ca/4



On 2/26/15 10:30 PM, Joe Subich, W4TV wrote:

On 2015-02-26 11:08 PM, W0MU Mike Fatchett wrote:

Has anyone read the regulations that they kept hidden?  Do we really
know what is in them?


Look at the last set of "Net Neutrality" regulations from the FCC -
the ones that the industry had over turned on the grounds that the
Commission did not have the authority to adopt them because "Broadband
was not a utility".

Seems to me the industry got what they wanted  forced the Commission
to reclassify "Information Service" as "Communications Utility."  Voice
and cable have been regulated as utilities for a very long time - who
in their right mind would consider broadband data delivered on the very
same networks to be anything other than a utility for the very reasons
that voice and cable are utilities?

73,

... Joe, W4TV
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[Elecraft] KPA500: birdies on 6m from LCD backlight - follow-up

2015-02-26 Thread Joe Hall
I appreciate the many replies I received about my KPA500 birdies.

Some of you let me know that your KPA500 doesn't exhibit this issue, which
is good to know.  Others encouraged me to call Elecraft and escalate the
issue, including one of the folks who posted to this list a couple of years
back with a similar problem (resolved with a replacement front panel circuit
board).

Elecraft reached out on their own and is sending a replacement front panel
circuit board.  Thanks to them for stepping up.

Joe / WB1M



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Re: [Elecraft] [Bulk] OT: Verizon's response to Net Neutrality: in Morse code!!

2015-02-26 Thread Cliff Frescura
*Netflix* got what they wanted.  They had better lobbyists and took a
dispute between them and Comcast, expanded the scope to include the entire
internet, and then got the .gov on their side.  

73,

K3LL/6

-Original Message-
From: Elecraft [mailto:elecraft-boun...@mailman.qth.net] On Behalf Of Joe
Subich, W4TV
Sent: Thursday, February 26, 2015 8:30 PM
To: elecraft@mailman.qth.net
Subject: Re: [Elecraft] [Bulk] OT: Verizon's response to Net Neutrality: in
Morse code!!

On 2015-02-26 11:08 PM, W0MU Mike Fatchett wrote:
> Has anyone read the regulations that they kept hidden?  Do we really 
> know what is in them?

Look at the last set of "Net Neutrality" regulations from the FCC - the ones
that the industry had over turned on the grounds that the Commission did not
have the authority to adopt them because "Broadband was not a utility".

Seems to me the industry got what they wanted  forced the Commission to
reclassify "Information Service" as "Communications Utility."  Voice and
cable have been regulated as utilities for a very long time - who in their
right mind would consider broadband data delivered on the very same networks
to be anything other than a utility for the very reasons that voice and
cable are utilities?

73,

... Joe, W4TV
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Re: [Elecraft] [Bulk] OT: Verizon's response to Net Neutrality: in Morse code!!

2015-02-26 Thread Joe Subich, W4TV

On 2015-02-26 11:08 PM, W0MU Mike Fatchett wrote:

Has anyone read the regulations that they kept hidden?  Do we really
know what is in them?


Look at the last set of "Net Neutrality" regulations from the FCC -
the ones that the industry had over turned on the grounds that the
Commission did not have the authority to adopt them because "Broadband
was not a utility".

Seems to me the industry got what they wanted  forced the Commission
to reclassify "Information Service" as "Communications Utility."  Voice
and cable have been regulated as utilities for a very long time - who
in their right mind would consider broadband data delivered on the very
same networks to be anything other than a utility for the very reasons
that voice and cable are utilities?

73,

   ... Joe, W4TV
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Re: [Elecraft] [Bulk] OT: Verizon's response to Net Neutrality: in Morse code!!

2015-02-26 Thread Merv Schweigert
Just remember its  brought to you by the same people who said you can 
keep your doctor,

keep your health plan,
As FCC commissioner said today,   no worries you can keep your internet, 
we will make it

better..


Looks like they are really p*ssed off that they are not going to be able to
charge all that extra money for using fast channels. Guess they were
counting on getting that in their executive bonuses. I'm sure the repairmen
weren't going to get any of it.

The internet is a national resource. No one should be able to "corner" it.
Instead try making money the old-fashioned way...

I pay money every month for extra bandwidth. That ought to be enough to
keep that bandwidth and not have it whittled down by slow tracks for some
of my preferred stuff. Slow tracks are the inevitable result of fast
tracks. Further **I** want to decide where I spend **my** paid-for extra
bandwidth, not have it decided for me by Verizon based on money **they**
make. .

No sympathy, but you probably already figured that out.

73, Guy.

On Thu, Feb 26, 2015 at 8:14 PM, Harry Yingst via Elecraft <
elecraft@mailman.qth.net> wrote:


Even the Translated one is interesting
   From: Tom McCulloch 
  To: elecraft@mailman.qth.net
  Sent: Thursday, February 26, 2015 6:53 PM
  Subject: Re: [Elecraft] [Bulk] OT: Verizon's response to Net Neutrality:
in Morse code!!

I'm sure Verizon's sarcasm will be lost on most!

Tom
WB2QDG
K2 1103


On 2/26/2015 6:32 PM, Al Gulseth wrote:

"- --- -.. .- -.-- .. ...  -.. . -.-. .. ... .. --- -.  -... -.--  -

 .  ..-. -.-. -.-."

(and so on: I think you get the drift - yes, it's this way on their

website.)

There's a small note at the bottom stating "Readers in the 21st century

can

read the translated statement here":



http://publicpolicy.verizon.com/blog/entry/fccs-throwback-thursday-move-imposes-1930s-rules-on-the-internet

73, Al
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Re: [Elecraft] [Bulk] OT: Verizon's response to Net Neutrality: in Morse code!!

2015-02-26 Thread Phil Kane
On 2/26/2015 7:33 PM, Joe Subich, W4TV wrote:

> Not only should the consumer access providers be treated like
> common carriers, they should be treated like public utilities they are
> and be required to provide equivalent service levels at the same price
> to all customers whether they live in the metropolitan core or some-
> where west of Last Gasp. 

That's what all the Title II fracas is about.  Those of us in the
professional (regulatory) field fault the FCC of 20 years ago for not
insisting on that but creating this "information service" category
rather than putting them in the "telecommunications service" category
from the beginning.

As hams we are used to having the FCC look over our shoulders to make
sure that we play by the rules.  It's time that the "broadband"
infrastructure providers get a taste of that.

73 de K2ASP - Phil Kane
Elecraft K2/100   s/n 5402

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Re: [Elecraft] [Bulk] OT: Verizon's response to Net Neutrality: in Morse code!!

2015-02-26 Thread David Cole
That's 35% of the US traffic, not "Internet traffic".  

Also, the reason Netflix uses so much bandwidth is because they have
customers who use that bandwidth!  I see zero issue with the latest
ruling.
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On Thu, 2015-02-26 at 19:57 -0600, Tony Estep wrote:
> On Thu, Feb 26, 2015 at 7:31 PM, Guy Olinger K2AV 
> wrote:
> 
> > ...internet is a national resource. No one should be able to "corner"
> > it
> > ==
> 
>  Unfortunately, so-called "neutrality" means that one company, Netflix, can
> corner it without paying for it. Netflix accounts for up to 35% of internet
> traffic, and is really the one and only beneficiary of this ruling.
> Everybody else is subsidizing them. In any event, I'm just glad I'm not a
> regulator.
> 
> Tony KT0NY
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Re: [Elecraft] [Bulk] OT: Verizon's response to Net Neutrality: in Morse code!!

2015-02-26 Thread W0MU Mike Fatchett
Has anyone read the regulations that they kept hidden?  Do we really 
know what is in them?


I am not a big fan of the gov't sticking their fingers into everything.  
I have no more trust in them handling this any better than everything 
else the touch, regulate, control, etc.


I am quite skeptical of the reasons behind this less than transparent 
change.


Mike W0MU

On 2/26/2015 8:33 PM, Joe Subich, W4TV wrote:


On 2015-02-26 8:57 PM, Tony Estep wrote:

Unfortunately, so-called "neutrality" means that one company,
Netflix, can corner it without paying for it. Netflix accounts for
up to 35% of internet traffic, and is really the one and only
beneficiary of this ruling. Everybody else is subsidizing them.


Netflix and other information providers play plenty to enter the
data on the web.  Verizon, AT&T, Comcast, Time Warner, etc. have
no business holding the end users for ransom when it comes to
receiving that data and/or determining what data the user may
access.  At least they are being told they can't do with broadband
what they (the cable companies) have done to niche players in the
video arena for decades (pay for play).

Not only should the consumer access providers be treated like
common carriers, they should be treated like public utilities they are
and be required to provide equivalent service levels at the same price
to all customers whether they live in the metropolitan core or some-
where west of Last Gasp.  Cable companies have forever "creamed" their
franchise areas, shaking down developers for the cost of wiring new
projects and/or demanding CC&Rs that limit access to competing service,
and wiring high density housing while bypassing older areas with one
home per one, five or ten acres even when both are encompassed by the
same franchise territory.

Perhaps this will start to put an end to one of the poorest performing
and most variable user access systems in the world.  When it comes to
data rates and cost the US isn't even in the top tier.

73,

  ... Joe, W4TV


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Re: [Elecraft] [Bulk] OT: Verizon's response to Net Neutrality: in Morse code!!

2015-02-26 Thread Joe Subich, W4TV


On 2015-02-26 8:57 PM, Tony Estep wrote:

Unfortunately, so-called "neutrality" means that one company,
Netflix, can corner it without paying for it. Netflix accounts for
up to 35% of internet traffic, and is really the one and only
beneficiary of this ruling. Everybody else is subsidizing them.


Netflix and other information providers play plenty to enter the
data on the web.  Verizon, AT&T, Comcast, Time Warner, etc. have
no business holding the end users for ransom when it comes to
receiving that data and/or determining what data the user may
access.  At least they are being told they can't do with broadband
what they (the cable companies) have done to niche players in the
video arena for decades (pay for play).

Not only should the consumer access providers be treated like
common carriers, they should be treated like public utilities they are
and be required to provide equivalent service levels at the same price
to all customers whether they live in the metropolitan core or some-
where west of Last Gasp.  Cable companies have forever "creamed" their
franchise areas, shaking down developers for the cost of wiring new
projects and/or demanding CC&Rs that limit access to competing service,
and wiring high density housing while bypassing older areas with one
home per one, five or ten acres even when both are encompassed by the
same franchise territory.

Perhaps this will start to put an end to one of the poorest performing
and most variable user access systems in the world.  When it comes to
data rates and cost the US isn't even in the top tier.

73,

  ... Joe, W4TV


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Re: [Elecraft] [Bulk] OT: Verizon's response to Net Neutrality: in Morse code!!

2015-02-26 Thread EricJ
Nobody has explained it any better than you have in this short 
paragraph, Scott. This is a national resource and the American people 
should be the beneficiaries. The ones everyone seems to be forgetting 
are the customers--the American people.


Everything's always about corporations anymore, not ordinary Americans. 
Someone said they should make money the old fashioned way. Yea, by 
satisfying customers, not by manipulating our laws in their favor.


Eric
KE6US

On 2/26/2015 6:47 PM, Scott Manthe wrote:

Tony,
All of Netflix's customers are the beneficiary of this ruling, as well 
as anyone who uses Youtube, Hulu or any other streaming service. 
Netflix uses the most bandwidth because they have the most customers. 
It isn't only the companies  like these that benefit, it's their 
customers. The Internet doesn't exist as some libertarian fantasy 
world. The only ones that were going to benefit from from being able 
to turn the hose off and on were the one's who own the hose, not the 
one's who use it. Net neutrality is not a bad thing.


73,
Scott, N9AA


On 2/26/15 8:57 PM, Tony Estep wrote:

On Thu, Feb 26, 2015 at 7:31 PM, Guy Olinger K2AV 
wrote:


...internet is a national resource. No one should be able to "corner"
it
==
  Unfortunately, so-called "neutrality" means that one company, 
Netflix, can
corner it without paying for it. Netflix accounts for up to 35% of 
internet

traffic, and is really the one and only beneficiary of this ruling.
Everybody else is subsidizing them. In any event, I'm just glad I'm 
not a

regulator.

Tony KT0NY



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Re: [Elecraft] [Bulk] OT: Verizon's response to Net Neutrality: in Morse code!!

2015-02-26 Thread Scott Manthe

Tony,
All of Netflix's customers are the beneficiary of this ruling, as well 
as anyone who uses Youtube, Hulu or any other streaming service. Netflix 
uses the most bandwidth because they have the most customers. It isn't 
only the companies  like these that benefit, it's their customers. The 
Internet doesn't exist as some libertarian fantasy world. The only ones 
that were going to benefit from from being able to turn the hose off and 
on were the one's who own the hose, not the one's who use it. Net 
neutrality is not a bad thing.


73,
Scott, N9AA


On 2/26/15 8:57 PM, Tony Estep wrote:

On Thu, Feb 26, 2015 at 7:31 PM, Guy Olinger K2AV 
wrote:


...internet is a national resource. No one should be able to "corner"
it
==

  Unfortunately, so-called "neutrality" means that one company, Netflix, can
corner it without paying for it. Netflix accounts for up to 35% of internet
traffic, and is really the one and only beneficiary of this ruling.
Everybody else is subsidizing them. In any event, I'm just glad I'm not a
regulator.

Tony KT0NY



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[Elecraft] KX3 - Auto tuner relays clicking when tuning through AM Broadcast Band

2015-02-26 Thread Phil Irey
I have not heard the auto tuner relays engage while tuning on other bands.

Is this normal?  

I know that the “the KXAT3 also includes an automatically tuned filter for the 
AM broadcast band that tracks the VFO, improving image rejection for signals in 
the 0.3-1.0 MHz range”. 

Is the filter tuning driven by the VFO what I hear?

Thanks,

phil - K4PMI
 
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Re: [Elecraft] [Bulk] OT: Verizon's response to Net Neutrality: in Morse code!!

2015-02-26 Thread Tom McCulloch


Guy is right. And we have Al Gore to thank! ;-)

Tom wb2qdg
K2# 1103

PS -- that's enough of this, here comes Eric! :-[
T


On 2/26/2015 8:31 PM, Guy Olinger K2AV wrote:



...The internet is a national resource...



--


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Re: [Elecraft] [Bulk] OT: Verizon's response to Net Neutrality: in Morse code!!

2015-02-26 Thread Tony Estep
On Thu, Feb 26, 2015 at 7:31 PM, Guy Olinger K2AV 
wrote:

> ...internet is a national resource. No one should be able to "corner"
> it
> ==

 Unfortunately, so-called "neutrality" means that one company, Netflix, can
corner it without paying for it. Netflix accounts for up to 35% of internet
traffic, and is really the one and only beneficiary of this ruling.
Everybody else is subsidizing them. In any event, I'm just glad I'm not a
regulator.

Tony KT0NY
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Re: [Elecraft] [Bulk] OT: Verizon's response to Net Neutrality: in Morse code!!

2015-02-26 Thread Guy Olinger K2AV
Looks like they are really p*ssed off that they are not going to be able to
charge all that extra money for using fast channels. Guess they were
counting on getting that in their executive bonuses. I'm sure the repairmen
weren't going to get any of it.

The internet is a national resource. No one should be able to "corner" it.
Instead try making money the old-fashioned way...

I pay money every month for extra bandwidth. That ought to be enough to
keep that bandwidth and not have it whittled down by slow tracks for some
of my preferred stuff. Slow tracks are the inevitable result of fast
tracks. Further **I** want to decide where I spend **my** paid-for extra
bandwidth, not have it decided for me by Verizon based on money **they**
make. .

No sympathy, but you probably already figured that out.

73, Guy.

On Thu, Feb 26, 2015 at 8:14 PM, Harry Yingst via Elecraft <
elecraft@mailman.qth.net> wrote:

> Even the Translated one is interesting
>   From: Tom McCulloch 
>  To: elecraft@mailman.qth.net
>  Sent: Thursday, February 26, 2015 6:53 PM
>  Subject: Re: [Elecraft] [Bulk] OT: Verizon's response to Net Neutrality:
> in Morse code!!
>
> I'm sure Verizon's sarcasm will be lost on most!
>
> Tom
> WB2QDG
> K2 1103
>
>
> On 2/26/2015 6:32 PM, Al Gulseth wrote:
> > "- --- -.. .- -.-- .. ...  -.. . -.-. .. ... .. --- -.  -... -.--  -
>  .  ..-. -.-. -.-."
> > (and so on: I think you get the drift - yes, it's this way on their
> website.)
> > There's a small note at the bottom stating "Readers in the 21st century
> can
> > read the translated statement here":
> >
> >
> http://publicpolicy.verizon.com/blog/entry/fccs-throwback-thursday-move-imposes-1930s-rules-on-the-internet
> >
> > 73, Al
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Re: [Elecraft] [Bulk] OT: Verizon's response to Net Neutrality: in Morse code!!

2015-02-26 Thread Harry Yingst via Elecraft
Even the Translated one is interesting
  From: Tom McCulloch 
 To: elecraft@mailman.qth.net 
 Sent: Thursday, February 26, 2015 6:53 PM
 Subject: Re: [Elecraft] [Bulk] OT: Verizon's response to Net Neutrality: in 
Morse code!!
   
I'm sure Verizon's sarcasm will be lost on most!

Tom
WB2QDG
K2 1103


On 2/26/2015 6:32 PM, Al Gulseth wrote:
> "- --- -.. .- -.-- .. ...  -.. . -.-. .. ... .. --- -.  -... -.--  -  
> .  ..-. -.-. -.-."
> (and so on: I think you get the drift - yes, it's this way on their website.)
> There's a small note at the bottom stating "Readers in the 21st century can
> read the translated statement here":
>
> http://publicpolicy.verizon.com/blog/entry/fccs-throwback-thursday-move-imposes-1930s-rules-on-the-internet
>
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Re: [Elecraft] K3 - perceived RX and TX audio

2015-02-26 Thread Harry Yingst via Elecraft
 I'm glad this topic came up since I know My K3 can sound better if I take the 
time to work through the settings.
There are a lot of settings to play with and a lot of them are ones I've never 
seen on other radios(Plus I was out of radio for a while and how quickly we 
forget).




  From: Bill 
 To: elecraft@mailman.qth.net 
 Sent: Thursday, February 26, 2015 4:00 PM
 Subject: Re: [Elecraft] K3 - perceived RX and TX audio
   
Sorry to have stirred up so much animosity! I merely wished to point out 
that the K3 is an extremely capable device, with many menu settings, and 
should please anyone - if they do their part in setting it up properly.

My operating is mostly armchair rag chew - hence, I use a pair of 
Behringer powered speakers and have my EQ, AGC, and filter settings made 
to enhance my listening pleasure. I have even given thought to "surround 
sound" - however, decided that lightning crashes from all sides might be 
a little much in the summer.

I don't really do more than scratch the surface of what the K3 can do.

Bill W2BLC K-Line

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Re: [Elecraft] [Bulk] OT: Verizon's response to Net Neutrality: in Morse code!!

2015-02-26 Thread Joshua Gould
Code may be antiquated, but it will work just fine when their towers fail...

72,
Joshua Gould
K8WXA
EM89pn

KX3# 7480
NAQCC # 7704

On Thu, Feb 26, 2015 at 6:53 PM, Tom McCulloch  wrote:

> I'm sure Verizon's sarcasm will be lost on most!
>
> Tom
> WB2QDG
> K2 1103
>
>
>
> On 2/26/2015 6:32 PM, Al Gulseth wrote:
>
>> "- --- -.. .- -.-- .. ...   -.. . -.-. .. ... .. --- -.   -... -.--
>>  -  .   ..-. -.-. -.-."
>> (and so on: I think you get the drift - yes, it's this way on their
>> website.)
>> There's a small note at the bottom stating "Readers in the 21st century
>> can
>> read the translated statement here":
>>
>> http://publicpolicy.verizon.com/blog/entry/fccs-throwback-
>> thursday-move-imposes-1930s-rules-on-the-internet
>>
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Re: [Elecraft] [Bulk] OT: Verizon's response to Net Neutrality: in Morse code!!

2015-02-26 Thread Tom McCulloch

I'm sure Verizon's sarcasm will be lost on most!

Tom
WB2QDG
K2 1103


On 2/26/2015 6:32 PM, Al Gulseth wrote:

"- --- -.. .- -.-- .. ...   -.. . -.-. .. ... .. --- -.   -... -.--   -  .   
..-. -.-. -.-."
(and so on: I think you get the drift - yes, it's this way on their website.)
There's a small note at the bottom stating "Readers in the 21st century can
read the translated statement here":

http://publicpolicy.verizon.com/blog/entry/fccs-throwback-thursday-move-imposes-1930s-rules-on-the-internet

73, Al
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[Elecraft] OT: Verizon's response to Net Neutrality: in Morse code!!

2015-02-26 Thread Al Gulseth
"- --- -.. .- -.-- .. ...   -.. . -.-. .. ... .. --- -.   -... -.--   - 
 .   ..-. -.-. -.-." 
(and so on: I think you get the drift - yes, it's this way on their website.) 
There's a small note at the bottom stating "Readers in the 21st century can 
read the translated statement here":

http://publicpolicy.verizon.com/blog/entry/fccs-throwback-thursday-move-imposes-1930s-rules-on-the-internet

73, Al 
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Re: [Elecraft] KPA500: birdies on 6m from LCD backlight

2015-02-26 Thread Harry Yingst via Elecraft
Thank you



  From: Don Wilhelm 
 To: elecraft@mailman.qth.net 
 Sent: Thursday, February 26, 2015 4:27 PM
 Subject: Re: [Elecraft] KPA500: birdies on 6m from LCD backlight
   
I can understand his being asked to turn off the backlight as a test or 
as a temporary workaround, but not as a permanent cure.  Perhaps there 
was a 'glitch' in the communications channels.

BTW - the last email from the originator indicated that it has been 
traced to a bad filter capacitor, so all those who were beginning to 
think this was 'normal behavior' can rest easy - it was only a problem 
with one KPA500.  As attributed to by several other posts saying that 
others did not find any 6 meter responses originating from their KPA500, 
I would say it is not a widespread problem.

73,
Don W3FPR



On 2/26/2015 4:06 PM, Scott Manthe wrote:
> Which Elecraft support person gave you this response? I've never heard 
> of anyone at Elecraft have that kind of attitude when addressing a 
> customer concern.
>
> 73,
> Scott, N9AA

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Re: [Elecraft] K3 - What settings to use for RX and TX Audio

2015-02-26 Thread Phil Wheeler


On 2/26/15 2:33 PM, Fred Jensen wrote:


My hearing is severely compromised and has been 
since one night 50 years ago on the other side 
of the planet.  I adjusted mine to look roughly 
like the inverse of my audiogram.
Funny about that, Fred. I listen with both a 
speaker and an earbud (one ear has deaf for 49 
years). With the speaker I have my hearing aid to 
compensate as above. The earbud bypasses the 
hearing aid's mic so its as tho it's not there. 
Over the ear headphones are troublesome with the 
hearing aid and glass frames behind one ear.


Such problems we have. The good news is I don't 
need a second RX in my K3 :-)


At least Elecraft is not like a mattress store: 
That would drive me out of the hobby!


73, Phil W7OX

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Re: [Elecraft] Elecraft Digest, Vol 130, Issue 59

2015-02-26 Thread Dauer, Edward

Yay!from one who actually links ³link.²

And Yay! as well to Eric and Wayne for listening to the voices of the
crowd.

Ted KN1CBR


>--
>
>Message: 4
>Date: Thu, 26 Feb 2015 15:40:01 +
>From: "Jim's Desktop" 
>To: "Elecraft Mailing List" 
>Subject: Re: [Elecraft] Latest K3 firmware release (5.13) restores
>   DUAL PB CW function
>Message-ID: 
>Content-Type: text/plain; format=flowed; charset=utf-8
>
>Also not mentioned in the release notes - the ability to actually assign
>"LINK" to PF1 or PF2 by selecting the menu item and then holding the PF1
>or PF2 button for a couple seconds now actually works as well.  Just
>tested it.
>
>Jim - W0EB
>
>
>>On 26/02/2015 11:50, Wayne Burdick wrote:
>>>K3 beta firmware rev. 5.13 is now available on our K3 software page.
>>>
>>>We neglected to mention in the release notes that the original "DUAL
>>>PB" CW function has been added back in.
>>>
>>>73,
>>>Wayne
>>>N6KR

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Re: [Elecraft] K3 - What settings to use for RX and TX Audio

2015-02-26 Thread Fred Jensen
Don't know your call Harry, but your question about RX EQ is a bit like 
going into a mattress store and asking, "What pillow will be most 
comfortable for me?":-)  Only you hear like you do, only you can tell 
what you like and then only by adjusting and trying it out.  A couple of 
suggestions however:


1.  One adjustment at a time followed by way more than 60 seconds of 
listening.  The effects are subtle, and if you move too fast, you'll 
just get frustrated ... and be tempted to post that the K3 RX EQ is 
worthless, which has happened once. :-))


2.  Test each setting under varied band conditions ... quiet SSB, CQ WPX 
SSB [or whatever] before more adjusting.


My hearing is severely compromised and has been since one night 50 years 
ago on the other side of the planet.  I adjusted mine to look roughly 
like the inverse of my audiogram.  I need about 80 dB above 1200 Hz and 
over 95 dB above 2 KHz, which is beyond the range of the RX EQ, but you 
can get an effective 30 dB of adjustment range by lowering the low 
frequencies, boosting the highs, and turning up the AF gain, if that's 
your goal.  It's not as good as my hearing aids, but then, my K3 is a 
ham radio, not a hearing aid.


I've actually found that just using the SHIFT knob when on SSB, I can 
quickly adjust the response for different voices if I'm having a hard 
time copying a DX call or a really weak station.

>
> I also would like the settings for TX audio, particularly for 2
> groups of settings one for Ragchew and one for punch. Thank you

I don't ragchew much and I'm not sure how to measure "punch," but I 
started with K9YC's settings since he retired out of professional audio 
and I know him, tweaked them a tiny bit for my voice with a local who 
knows what I sound like, and often get unsolicited "great audio" 
comments on SSB.  My settings are:


1: -16
2: -12
3: -6
4: -2
5: 0
6: +4
7: +6
8: +10

YMMV, but in general the lower 2 registers, and even #3 to some extent 
do not contribute much at all to communications efficiency.  The upper 2 
or so boost the sibilant components which do enhance the difference 
between many words.


I use a Heil ProSet with the iC2 electret element I got from Elecraft. 
I think you will find, if you spend enough time with it, that your 
compression and mic gain/ALC settings will have at least as much effect 
on the "quality" of your TX signal as the TX EQ, and maybe more.


The first four bars on the ALC meter are not ALC, they're showing audio 
level.  ALC action is indicated by the 5th and above [I think I have 
that right, I'm sure I'll be corrected if necessary]. My shack is pretty 
quiet when I'm on SSB, I run between 8 and 10 dB peak compression, and 
set the mic gain so the 5th bar flickers as I speak.


73,

Fred K6DGW
- Northern California Contest Club
- CU in the 50th Running of the Cal QSO Party 3-4 Oct 2015
- www.cqp.org

On 2/26/2015 12:53 PM, Harry Yingst via Elecraft wrote:

Is there a list somewhere that gives some guidance on setting up the
K3 for good Audio.I've read a little about some of the various AGC
settings, but would like a bit more details.


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Re: [Elecraft] KPA500: birdies on 6m from LCD backlight

2015-02-26 Thread mcduffie
On Thu, 26 Feb 2015 13:15:09 -0700, mcduf...@ag0n.net wrote:

> 
> > This is a relatively minor issue for me given that I rarely operate on 6m,
> > but I'm anal enough that I'd prefer to solve rather than accommodate the
> > problem.  
> 
> Joe, this WILL be a problem for me, since almost all of my activity of late is
> 6m MS, and the amp is almost always used.  I've noticed plenty of birdies, but
> never thought to try to trace them.  Since I have no "bandscope", I can only
> check them one at a time, and will do so now that you have brought it up.
> 
> Thanks for the heads up.  Like you, I can not do without the light.

No evidence of it here.  I checked the bottom 500KHz from 50.000 up and every
birdie I have stayed when the display light was turned off.  If you can offer
specific frequencies to check, I'd be glad to do it.

Gary
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Re: [Elecraft] KPA500: birdies on 6m from LCD backlight

2015-02-26 Thread Roger Marrotte
Hi Joe,

I have KPA500 S/N 2381.  Mine was a kit also.  I just checked out 6 meters
and can hear no birdies that seem to coming from the amp.  I hear just a
couple that are there with or without the LCD backlight on.  Same results
with the amp off or on.

Roger, W1EM

-Original Message-
From: Elecraft [mailto:elecraft-boun...@mailman.qth.net] On Behalf Of Joe
Hall
Sent: Thursday, February 26, 2015 2:48 PM
To: elecraft@mailman.qth.net
Subject: [Elecraft] KPA500: birdies on 6m from LCD backlight

Just got a KPA500 kit a couple of weeks ago (S/N 2380).  Upon installing it
in my system I immediately noticed sharp spikes about every 9.5 kHz (only on
6m) in my panadapter.  These spikes are "audible" on my K3 and appear
whenever the KPA500 is on, whether in standby or operate.  Nothing at all
noted on any band other than 6m.  

A google search of the mailing list archives revealed a couple mentions of
the KPA500's LCD backlight.  So, I went in and adjusted the LCD brightness.
Dropping the brightness to "DAY" (which seems to turn the backlight totally
off) completely clears up the spikes on 6m, any setting other than "DAY" and
it's there - I can switch back and forth and watch the spikes appear and
disappear.

My email to elecraft support resulted in a response of "turn off the
backlight."  With no backlight the KPA500 display is unreadable in my shack.

This is a relatively minor issue for me given that I rarely operate on 6m,
but I'm anal enough that I'd prefer to solve rather than accommodate the
problem.  

Anyone else seen this and/or have any ideas about how to deal with it, other
than turning off the backlight?

Thanks,
Joe / WB1M



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Re: [Elecraft] KPA500: birdies on 6m from LCD backlight

2015-02-26 Thread Don Wilhelm
I can understand his being asked to turn off the backlight as a test or 
as a temporary workaround, but not as a permanent cure.  Perhaps there 
was a 'glitch' in the communications channels.


BTW - the last email from the originator indicated that it has been 
traced to a bad filter capacitor, so all those who were beginning to 
think this was 'normal behavior' can rest easy - it was only a problem 
with one KPA500.  As attributed to by several other posts saying that 
others did not find any 6 meter responses originating from their KPA500, 
I would say it is not a widespread problem.


73,
Don W3FPR

On 2/26/2015 4:06 PM, Scott Manthe wrote:
Which Elecraft support person gave you this response? I've never heard 
of anyone at Elecraft have that kind of attitude when addressing a 
customer concern.


73,
Scott, N9AA


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Re: [Elecraft] KPA500: birdies on 6m from LCD backlight

2015-02-26 Thread KD7PY
the birdies are about 16kc apart, the same freq as the display driver, 
Elecraft should know about this, see my above post. after the new board was
installed there are NO BIRDIES

someone there needs to get up dated on this as a VK also had this problem
and it was corrected..

Ed  K7WIA  ex K7WIA



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Re: [Elecraft] K3 - What settings to use for RX and TX Audio

2015-02-26 Thread Phil Wheeler
Thanks for posting, Bill. That will make a nice 
point of reference.


Phil W7OX

On 2/26/15 1:04 PM, Bill wrote:

Take a look at:   http://www.w2blc.net/K3.htm

Just be forewarned - these are settings I use 
and other users may not like them.


Bill W2BLC K-Line


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Re: [Elecraft] K3 - What settings to use for RX and TX Audio

2015-02-26 Thread Matt Murphy
If you want ragchew audio it probably makes sense to:

- turn the preamp off
- use slow AGC
- use as wide a passband as band conditions permit (phone) and about 800Hz
on CW
- in the receive EQ perhaps reduce band 7 and 8 a bit to remove some of the
highest pitched sounds/noise
- listen through a larger speaker to add a bit more resonance than the
built-in speaker can provide.



- For TX you can listen on the monitor using headphones and fine tune it to
be exactly how you want. I think K9YC had some recommended presets for TX
EQ for contest audio.

73,
Matt NQ6N

On Thu, Feb 26, 2015 at 3:04 PM, Bill  wrote:

> Take a look at:   http://www.w2blc.net/K3.htm
>
> Just be forewarned - these are settings I use and other users may not like
> them.
>
> Bill W2BLC K-Line
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Re: [Elecraft] KPA500: birdies on 6m from LCD backlight

2015-02-26 Thread Scott Manthe
Which Elecraft support person gave you this response? I've never heard 
of anyone at Elecraft have that kind of attitude when addressing a 
customer concern.


73,
Scott, N9AA


On 2/26/15 2:47 PM, Joe Hall wrote:

My email to elecraft support resulted in a response of "turn off the
backlight."  With no backlight the KPA500 display is unreadable in my shack.

This is a relatively minor issue for me given that I rarely operate on 6m,
but I'm anal enough that I'd prefer to solve rather than accommodate the
problem.

Anyone else seen this and/or have any ideas about how to deal with it, other
than turning off the backlight?

Thanks,
Joe / WB1M






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Re: [Elecraft] K3 - perceived RX and TX audio

2015-02-26 Thread Grant Youngman
Huh?

Sent from my iPhone

> On Feb 26, 2015, at 1:38 PM, Dick Dickinson  wrote:
> 
> Sure, merely understanding the words is fine when dealing with brief
> exchanges of call signs and signal reports.  And pumped up, penetrating
> audio can help pump up your adrenalin if one finds excitement in sporting
> activities.  
> 
> 
> 
> The quality of comfort is a factor for many when participating in extended
> conversations.
> 
> 
> 
> If you find no discomfort in what you hear, that's fine, but don't dismiss
> those who appreciate listening to audio without discomforting artifacts.
> 
> 
> 
> Some of us enjoy nothing more than an engaging conversation.  The acoustical
> qualities can be a significant factor in that pleasure.  
> 
> 
> 
> A meal can be better with dinnerware and utensils as opposed to using your
> hands to eat out of a paper bag.
> 
> 
> 
> Best regards,
> 
> Dick - KA5KKT
> 
> 
> 
> 
> 
> 
> 
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Re: [Elecraft] K3 - What settings to use for RX and TX Audio

2015-02-26 Thread Bill

Take a look at:   http://www.w2blc.net/K3.htm

Just be forewarned - these are settings I use and other users may not 
like them.


Bill W2BLC K-Line

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Re: [Elecraft] KPA500: birdies on 6m from LCD backlight

2015-02-26 Thread Bob
I have an older KPA500.  I just scanned the entire 6 meter band and
couldn't find the birdies you were referring to.  I tried all the
brightness levels for the LCD and never noticed anything either on the P3
or in the K3.

That made me think of a problem I was having with my P3 a long time ago.
The coax that shipped with the unit (interconnection between the K3 and P3)
was defective and was letting all sorts of signals into the P3.  I replaced
that with a high quality coax cable and the issue went away.

Is it possible that might by the problem?

73, Bob, WB4SON
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Re: [Elecraft] KPA500: birdies on 6m from LCD backlight

2015-02-26 Thread KD7PY
his is my post of Nov, 15 2011:

This is what I found as the source of the birdie's in the amp.

with the LCD BRT set anywhere from 1 to 8 the birdies are there.
with the LCD BRT set to DAY the birds are gone..

I have been working all day with Dale @ Elecraft with this and just sent him
a e-mail of what I found.
Dale has been very involved in this trying to track this down..
 
now we need  to see just what kind of fix we can come up with..

I can't Thank Dale and crew enough for the support they have put into this,
as it appears everyone got envolved.

Thanks Again Dale @ crew..

Elecraft sent me a new Front board , as it is due to a bad filter cap on the
display driver

EdK7WIA 



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Re: [Elecraft] K3 - perceived RX and TX audio

2015-02-26 Thread Bill
Sorry to have stirred up so much animosity! I merely wished to point out 
that the K3 is an extremely capable device, with many menu settings, and 
should please anyone - if they do their part in setting it up properly.


My operating is mostly armchair rag chew - hence, I use a pair of 
Behringer powered speakers and have my EQ, AGC, and filter settings made 
to enhance my listening pleasure. I have even given thought to "surround 
sound" - however, decided that lightning crashes from all sides might be 
a little much in the summer.


I don't really do more than scratch the surface of what the K3 can do.

Bill W2BLC K-Line

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Re: [Elecraft] K3 - What settings to use for RX and TX Audio

2015-02-26 Thread Ross Primrose
TX audio you're pretty much going to have to figure out on-air with 
someone who's got great copy on you.  What works for you is highly 
dependent on your voice, mic etc. and will be different than what works 
for me or anyone else


73, Ross N4RP

On 2/26/2015 3:53 PM, Harry Yingst via Elecraft wrote:

I also would like the settings for TX audio, particularly for 2 groups of 
settings one for Ragchew and one for punch.
Thank you




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[Elecraft] K3 - What settings to use for RX and TX Audio

2015-02-26 Thread Harry Yingst via Elecraft
Is there a list somewhere that gives some guidance on setting up the K3 for 
good Audio.I've read a little about some of the various AGC settings, but would 
like a bit more details.

I also would like the settings for TX audio, particularly for 2 groups of 
settings one for Ragchew and one for punch.
Thank you

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Re: [Elecraft] KPA500: birdies on 6m from LCD backlight

2015-02-26 Thread Harry Yingst via Elecraft
I'm glad you brought this up
I was planning on getting the KPA500 and I also have a darker shackbut I like 
working 6 meters so this would be an issue for me.




  From: Joe Hall 
 To: elecraft@mailman.qth.net 
 Sent: Thursday, February 26, 2015 2:47 PM
 Subject: [Elecraft] KPA500: birdies on 6m from LCD backlight
   
Just got a KPA500 kit a couple of weeks ago (S/N 2380).  Upon installing it
in my system I immediately noticed sharp spikes about every 9.5 kHz (only on
6m) in my panadapter.  These spikes are "audible" on my K3 and appear
whenever the KPA500 is on, whether in standby or operate.  Nothing at all
noted on any band other than 6m.  

A google search of the mailing list archives revealed a couple mentions of
the KPA500's LCD backlight.  So, I went in and adjusted the LCD brightness.
Dropping the brightness to "DAY" (which seems to turn the backlight totally
off) completely clears up the spikes on 6m, any setting other than "DAY" and
it's there - I can switch back and forth and watch the spikes appear and
disappear.

My email to elecraft support resulted in a response of "turn off the
backlight."  With no backlight the KPA500 display is unreadable in my shack.

This is a relatively minor issue for me given that I rarely operate on 6m,
but I'm anal enough that I'd prefer to solve rather than accommodate the
problem.  

Anyone else seen this and/or have any ideas about how to deal with it, other
than turning off the backlight?

Thanks,
Joe / WB1M



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Re: [Elecraft] KPA500: birdies on 6m from LCD backlight

2015-02-26 Thread Jim's Desktop
I have a few birdies on 6, but after reading your post Jim, I checked 
them out against the KPA500 and so far I can't find any that I can 
attribute to the amplifier.  I marked down all the ones I could hear 
with the amplifier on and the LCD as bright as it will go.  I then shut 
the amp off and just to be sure, I disconnected power from it 
completely.  All the birdies originally noted were still there and none 
changed when I turned the amp back on.


I'd check all the cabling connections internal and external to the amp 
and see if you don't have one that's not completely seated causing a 
"Pin-1" problem.


Jim - W0EB

-- Original Message --
From: "Phil Wheeler" 
To: elecraft@mailman.qth.net
Sent: 2/26/2015 2:33:13 PM
Subject: Re: [Elecraft] KPA500: birdies on 6m from LCD backlight

No such problem here, at all, Jim. I wonder if you have a cabling 
issue?


Phil W7OX

On 2/26/15 11:47 AM, Joe Hall wrote:
Just got a KPA500 kit a couple of weeks ago (S/N 2380). Upon 
installing it
in my system I immediately noticed sharp spikes about every 9.5 kHz 
(only on

6m) in my panadapter. These spikes are "audible" on my K3 and appear
whenever the KPA500 is on, whether in standby or operate. Nothing at 
all

noted on any band other than 6m.

A google search of the mailing list archives revealed a couple 
mentions of
the KPA500's LCD backlight. So, I went in and adjusted the LCD 
brightness.
Dropping the brightness to "DAY" (which seems to turn the backlight 
totally
off) completely clears up the spikes on 6m, any setting other than 
"DAY" and
it's there - I can switch back and forth and watch the spikes appear 
and

disappear.

My email to elecraft support resulted in a response of "turn off the
backlight." With no backlight the KPA500 display is unreadable in my 
shack.


This is a relatively minor issue for me given that I rarely operate on 
6m,
but I'm anal enough that I'd prefer to solve rather than accommodate 
the

problem.

Anyone else seen this and/or have any ideas about how to deal with it, 
other

than turning off the backlight?

Thanks,
Joe / WB1M



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Re: [Elecraft] KPA500: birdies on 6m from LCD backlight

2015-02-26 Thread Phil Wheeler
No such problem here, at all, Jim. I wonder if you 
have a cabling issue?


Phil W7OX

On 2/26/15 11:47 AM, Joe Hall wrote:

Just got a KPA500 kit a couple of weeks ago (S/N 2380).  Upon installing it
in my system I immediately noticed sharp spikes about every 9.5 kHz (only on
6m) in my panadapter.  These spikes are "audible" on my K3 and appear
whenever the KPA500 is on, whether in standby or operate.  Nothing at all
noted on any band other than 6m.

A google search of the mailing list archives revealed a couple mentions of
the KPA500's LCD backlight.  So, I went in and adjusted the LCD brightness.
Dropping the brightness to "DAY" (which seems to turn the backlight totally
off) completely clears up the spikes on 6m, any setting other than "DAY" and
it's there - I can switch back and forth and watch the spikes appear and
disappear.

My email to elecraft support resulted in a response of "turn off the
backlight."  With no backlight the KPA500 display is unreadable in my shack.

This is a relatively minor issue for me given that I rarely operate on 6m,
but I'm anal enough that I'd prefer to solve rather than accommodate the
problem.

Anyone else seen this and/or have any ideas about how to deal with it, other
than turning off the backlight?

Thanks,
Joe / WB1M



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Re: [Elecraft] KPA500: birdies on 6m from LCD backlight

2015-02-26 Thread Fred Jensen
Rarely get on 6m but tried mine and the only birdies I see on my P3 are 
the permanent ones from the wireless company's gear at the top of my 
tower.  LCD brightness = 8, no change turning KPA500 on/off.


There have been various postings in the past about stray signals 
ultimately traced to bad connectors, chassis connections unbonded, and 
bad cables.  You might poke around a little in those departments.  I can 
see the LCD with backlight off but room lights on, however it's really dim.


73,

Fred K6DGW
- Northern California Contest Club
- CU in the 50th Running of the Cal QSO Party 3-4 Oct 2015
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On 2/26/2015 11:47 AM, Joe Hall wrote:

Just got a KPA500 kit a couple of weeks ago (S/N 2380).  Upon installing it
in my system I immediately noticed sharp spikes about every 9.5 kHz (only on
6m) in my panadapter.



Anyone else seen this and/or have any ideas about how to deal with it, other
than turning off the backlight?

Thanks,
Joe / WB1M


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Re: [Elecraft] KPA500: birdies on 6m from LCD backlight

2015-02-26 Thread mcduffie

> This is a relatively minor issue for me given that I rarely operate on 6m,
> but I'm anal enough that I'd prefer to solve rather than accommodate the
> problem.  

Joe, this WILL be a problem for me, since almost all of my activity of late is
6m MS, and the amp is almost always used.  I've noticed plenty of birdies, but
never thought to try to trace them.  Since I have no "bandscope", I can only
check them one at a time, and will do so now that you have brought it up.

Thanks for the heads up.  Like you, I can not do without the light.

Wayne?

Gary
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Re: [Elecraft] K3 - perceived RX and TX audio

2015-02-26 Thread Jim Brown

On Thu,2/26/2015 11:54 AM, Guy Olinger K2AV wrote:

At this point, that fix was a long time ago. Elecraft has been working on
the K3 for what, seven years now. Any complaint made first 5 years ago is
likely long since fixed, though some, with one complaint fixed, seem to
take little joy in that and immediately look for something else to complain
about.

Some people still have a theoretical complaint about one device in the
analog RF/IF RX string, but I have never been able to hear anything they
were complaining about.


I'm retired from a long career in pro audio (including a lot of 
recordings of acoustic jazz of the highest musical quality) and time in 
broadcasting. My ears and brain know the difference between broadcast 
audio, recording quality audio, and ham radio audio.


I mostly work CW, but do SSB and RTTY for contesting and DX chasing, as 
well as WSJT modes for small signal work. My K3s were bought new and 
have serial numbers in the range of 800 and 1800 (i.e., the first year 
of production) and get all the firmware updates. I've never been 
bothered by what I've heard coming out of good quality headphones 
connected to my K3s, nor with the audio that I'm transmitting.


As Riley Hollingsworth has said on more than one occasion, if you want 
to transmit broadcast quality audio, buy or go to work at a broadcast 
station. And I will add, if you want to listen to broadcast or recording 
quality audio, turn on you home entertainment system.


73, Jim K9YC
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Re: [Elecraft] K3 - perceived RX and TX audio

2015-02-26 Thread John Meade W2XS
I received a Bose mini soundlink speaker system for my iPod as a gift from
the family. One day, I plugged it into the rear headphone jack of the K3 and
tuned into a local AM BCB station playing oldies.  It sounded terrific, with
nice strong bass.  I now use it for all of my K3 operating (which is mostly
CW). I never thought that I would use a powered speaker on the K3 but the
mini sounds nice and it is small and it is stereo, so the sub-receiver comes
through on the right channel. I also use it through the Bluetooth connection
for my PC and, of course, the iPod.

73,  John W2XS

"Yes, I am OK with the Audio of my K3 (and, my KX3).  But, when I am
listening 
to a Beethoven piano Sonata I choose the Bose over the Elecraft. 

73, phil, K7PEH"



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Re: [Elecraft] K3 - perceived RX and TX audio

2015-02-26 Thread jim
I have the "latest" per Elecraft (Serial 04841).  I hear artifacts on it.

I have a friend that has a K3 (Serial >06000).  He does not hear artifacts
on his rig.  I do not hear artifacts on his rig

He listens to mine, and hears artifacts.

I am sending the K3 to Elecraft to have them sort it out.

Jim
W6AIM



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From: Elecraft [mailto:elecraft-boun...@mailman.qth.net] On Behalf Of Guy
Olinger K2AV
Sent: Thursday, February 26, 2015 11:54 AM
To: David Gilbert
Cc: Elecraft Reflector
Subject: Re: [Elecraft] K3 - perceived RX and TX audio

On Thu, Feb 26, 2015 at 1:48 PM, David Gilbert 
wrote:

> low level pass band mixing was still an issue


If I know exactly what you mean by low level pass band mixing, the multiple
weak signal "muddle", that problem was decisively cleared up by the firmware
significant digit fix for the AGC algorithm. It was a startling improvement
in the K3's sound. It was even more startling in what it did for diversity
reception of a weak signal pileup. Prior to the fix, the muddle had been
removing the aural clues that the brain uses to create a sound stage.
Afterwards, wow.

At this point, that fix was a long time ago. Elecraft has been working on
the K3 for what, seven years now. Any complaint made first 5 years ago is
likely long since fixed, though some, with one complaint fixed, seem to take
little joy in that and immediately look for something else to complain
about.

Some people still have a theoretical complaint about one device in the
analog RF/IF RX string, but I have never been able to hear anything they
were complaining about. They had their theoretical point no question, but
apparently the K3 does not live in the range where that point would be
invoked. So no harm, no foul.

I don't drink KoolAid. Don't believe in it. But there's a bunch that drinks
55 gallon drums of inverse KoolAid.

73, Guy
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Re: [Elecraft] K3 - perceived RX and TX audio

2015-02-26 Thread Guy Olinger K2AV
On Thu, Feb 26, 2015 at 1:48 PM, David Gilbert 
wrote:

> low level pass band mixing was still an issue


If I know exactly what you mean by low level pass band mixing, the multiple
weak signal "muddle", that problem was decisively cleared up by the
firmware significant digit fix for the AGC algorithm. It was a startling
improvement in the K3's sound. It was even more startling in what it did
for diversity reception of a weak signal pileup. Prior to the fix, the
muddle had been removing the aural clues that the brain uses to create a
sound stage. Afterwards, wow.

At this point, that fix was a long time ago. Elecraft has been working on
the K3 for what, seven years now. Any complaint made first 5 years ago is
likely long since fixed, though some, with one complaint fixed, seem to
take little joy in that and immediately look for something else to complain
about.

Some people still have a theoretical complaint about one device in the
analog RF/IF RX string, but I have never been able to hear anything they
were complaining about. They had their theoretical point no question, but
apparently the K3 does not live in the range where that point would be
invoked. So no harm, no foul.

I don't drink KoolAid. Don't believe in it. But there's a bunch that drinks
55 gallon drums of inverse KoolAid.

73, Guy
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[Elecraft] KPA500: birdies on 6m from LCD backlight

2015-02-26 Thread Joe Hall
Just got a KPA500 kit a couple of weeks ago (S/N 2380).  Upon installing it
in my system I immediately noticed sharp spikes about every 9.5 kHz (only on
6m) in my panadapter.  These spikes are "audible" on my K3 and appear
whenever the KPA500 is on, whether in standby or operate.  Nothing at all
noted on any band other than 6m.  

A google search of the mailing list archives revealed a couple mentions of
the KPA500's LCD backlight.  So, I went in and adjusted the LCD brightness.
Dropping the brightness to "DAY" (which seems to turn the backlight totally
off) completely clears up the spikes on 6m, any setting other than "DAY" and
it's there - I can switch back and forth and watch the spikes appear and
disappear.

My email to elecraft support resulted in a response of "turn off the
backlight."  With no backlight the KPA500 display is unreadable in my shack.

This is a relatively minor issue for me given that I rarely operate on 6m,
but I'm anal enough that I'd prefer to solve rather than accommodate the
problem.  

Anyone else seen this and/or have any ideas about how to deal with it, other
than turning off the backlight?

Thanks,
Joe / WB1M



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[Elecraft] K3 - perceived RX and TX audio

2015-02-26 Thread Dick Dickinson
Sure, merely understanding the words is fine when dealing with brief
exchanges of call signs and signal reports.  And pumped up, penetrating
audio can help pump up your adrenalin if one finds excitement in sporting
activities.  

 

The quality of comfort is a factor for many when participating in extended
conversations.

 

If you find no discomfort in what you hear, that's fine, but don't dismiss
those who appreciate listening to audio without discomforting artifacts.

 

Some of us enjoy nothing more than an engaging conversation.  The acoustical
qualities can be a significant factor in that pleasure.  

 

A meal can be better with dinnerware and utensils as opposed to using your
hands to eat out of a paper bag.

 

Best regards,

Dick - KA5KKT

 

 

 

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Re: [Elecraft] K3 - perceived RX and TX audio

2015-02-26 Thread Phil Hystad
My two-bits on the topic...

I like the audio on my Bose Table-top radio.  The music fills the room from
the obviously small speakers that it has built-in and it is high quality and 
high fidelity.

But, why in the world would I want or even care about having the same audio
fidelity on my K3.  I am 90 percent CW and the audio is just fine.  I am about
50-50 in using speakers (I have the ComSpeaker pair) and headphones.  My
headphones are actually cast off older ear buds from my iPhone.

For the SSB audio on those times I am using SSB, the audio is just fine.  It is
the other guys' signals that make up most of the quality or lack of quality in
the signal.  Yet, if you can understand them, what else do you want.  They are
not supposed to be singing to you (I think the FCC regs say no music).

Yes, I am OK with the Audio of my K3 (and, my KX3).  But, when I am listening
to a Beethoven piano Sonata I choose the Bose over the Elecraft.

73, phil, K7PEH


> On Feb 26, 2015, at 10:18 AM, jim  wrote:
> 
> Or..they have better hearing with a higher frequency
> response
> 
> Jim
> W6AIM
> 
> 
> 
> 
> -Original Message-
> From: Elecraft [mailto:elecraft-boun...@mailman.qth.net] On Behalf Of Bill
> Sent: Thursday, February 26, 2015 3:07 AM
> To: elecraft@mailman.qth.net
> Subject: [Elecraft] K3 - perceived RX and TX audio
> 
> If you don't like the audio from your K3 - you don't have to keep it!
> 
> With all the various AGC, DSP, and filter settings - and the two equalizers
> - _your_ K3 can be made to sound any way _you_ want it to sound.
> 
> It used to be that some radios just plain sounded good or just plain lousy -
> for whatever reason(s). The K3 can be anything from lousy to excellent - it
> is all up to the user to make the adjustments. Nothing is fixed in the K3 -
> there are nearly infinite variables to suit any situation. You can set it up
> for weak signal CW or resounding armchair copy - the choice is yours. The K3
> can do it all.
> 
> Now, just why is it that I keep seeing mention of the K3's poor audio? 
> Sounds to me like it is more the operator is unable to make the necessary
> menu selections. Or, more likely, the complainer never actually heard a K3.
> 
> Now, back to 75 meters and a little Kool-Aide.
> 
> Bill W2BLC K-Line
> 
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Re: [Elecraft] K3 - perceived RX and TX audio

2015-02-26 Thread David Gilbert


I don't believe that is totally accurate.  I'm guessing you're not an 
active contester.  The K3 is pretty good, but it most definitely does 
not have infinite capability to suit any situation.  Last I checked, low 
level pass band mixing was still an issue, as is the hard audio limit 
for some.


Dave  AB7E



On 2/26/2015 4:06 AM, Bill wrote:

If you don't like the audio from your K3 - you don't have to keep it!

With all the various AGC, DSP, and filter settings - and the two 
equalizers - _your_ K3 can be made to sound any way _you_ want it to 
sound.


It used to be that some radios just plain sounded good or just plain 
lousy - for whatever reason(s). The K3 can be anything from lousy to 
excellent - it is all up to the user to make the adjustments. Nothing 
is fixed in the K3 - there are nearly infinite variables to suit any 
situation. You can set it up for weak signal CW or resounding armchair 
copy - the choice is yours. The K3 can do it all.


Now, just why is it that I keep seeing mention of the K3's poor audio? 
Sounds to me like it is more the operator is unable to make the 
necessary menu selections. Or, more likely, the complainer never 
actually heard a K3.


Now, back to 75 meters and a little Kool-Aide.

Bill W2BLC K-Line


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Re: [Elecraft] K3 - perceived RX and TX audio

2015-02-26 Thread jim
Or..they have better hearing with a higher frequency
response

Jim
W6AIM




-Original Message-
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Sent: Thursday, February 26, 2015 3:07 AM
To: elecraft@mailman.qth.net
Subject: [Elecraft] K3 - perceived RX and TX audio

If you don't like the audio from your K3 - you don't have to keep it!

With all the various AGC, DSP, and filter settings - and the two equalizers
- _your_ K3 can be made to sound any way _you_ want it to sound.

It used to be that some radios just plain sounded good or just plain lousy -
for whatever reason(s). The K3 can be anything from lousy to excellent - it
is all up to the user to make the adjustments. Nothing is fixed in the K3 -
there are nearly infinite variables to suit any situation. You can set it up
for weak signal CW or resounding armchair copy - the choice is yours. The K3
can do it all.

Now, just why is it that I keep seeing mention of the K3's poor audio? 
Sounds to me like it is more the operator is unable to make the necessary
menu selections. Or, more likely, the complainer never actually heard a K3.

Now, back to 75 meters and a little Kool-Aide.

Bill W2BLC K-Line


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Re: [Elecraft] [Elecraft_K3] Re: Synth card order status

2015-02-26 Thread Jim
Guys,

An educated estimate was made for demand of the new synth

Just think, we would be paying more IF Elecraft did not manage inventory by 
exhausting the old synth stock (except for repair needs, etc.) before the new 
was announced.

If they ordered too many boards, inventory turns would be impacted negatively, 
and working capital suffers, with higher costs to them and ultimately, the end 
user.

It is not the end of the world as some may think it is...

Jim
W6AIM







On Feb 25, 2015, at 3:15 PM, "'Joe Subich, W4TV' li...@subich.com 
[Elecraft_K3]"  wrote:

> 
> > As (somewhat) expected, there is now a back order on the new cards
> > with a 10 (business) day delay. Which translates to mid-March.
> > Perhaps sooner, perhaps not.
> 
> That's disappointing. I ordered early Saturday afternoon at Orlando
> Hamcation and was told there were plenty in stock. Of course, I got
> e-mail confirmation Monday evening (presumably after Eric got back)
> and still have not received shipping info.
> 
> 73,
> 
> ... Joe, W4TV
> 
> On 2015-02-25 5:48 PM, Rick WA6NHC wrote:
> > I ordered two new synth cards early Monday (with an SVGA card added, I'm
> > tired of squinting) and quickly got the confirmation email. Having
> > heard/read nothing since, I called and spoke with a VERY nice woman
> > about the status a bit ago.
> >
> > As (somewhat) expected, there is now a back order on the new cards with
> > a 10 (business) day delay. Which translates to mid-March. Perhaps
> > sooner, perhaps not.
> >
> > Not complaining, just FYI and saving Elecraft some phone calls. :o) By
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Re: [Elecraft] K3 and Tascam US-122MKII

2015-02-26 Thread Gene Worth (wor...@missouri.edu)
Deane:

I have the US-144, but it is similar enough to be applicable. I use the
Elecraft Line Out with a stereo cable to the Tascam Line In (L) jack. You
will need to use a 1/8" to 1/4" adapter to make this work. I use the L and
R line out jacks (RCA) with an RCA to stereo 1/8" adapter. This goes back
to the Elecraft Line In plug on the back.

You can look for the settings in Fred Cady's book for DATA A set up for the
K3.  I use FLDIGI and VOX. Works well after getting the radio set up for it.

Now, for the tricky part. You must download and configure the USB/serial
port for this external sound card. I use a Mac so have no idea about the
Winblows drivers. I must start the Tascam driver software in the background
in order for the Mac and FLDIGI to see the external sound card.

On the top of the Tascam unit, you want to do the following:
1. Phantom is OFF
2. Mic/Lin is ON
3. Mono is OFF
4. Mon Mix is fully clockwise (Computer)
5. Once you have tuned a signal on your FLDIGI waterfall, then use the
Input Left dial so that you have a blue background with a light "snow" of
yellow dots on the waterfall. Try to do this in a segment of the band
without signals. You can alternatively select a "loud" signal then adjust
the dial until the Input Left LED goes from green to red peaks ... then
back off until it always stays green.
6. The LINE OUT is adjusted differently depending on how your radio is set
up so that you do not over-drive the LINE IN to the K3.

Hope that helps.

gene
WG7GW


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> Date: Thu, 26 Feb 2015 17:03:14 +1100
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> Before I start making cables to connect a Tascam 122 to a K3, I would
> appreciate knowing how other users have connected this pair.
>
>
>
> Deane
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Re: [Elecraft] KX3-PX3-computer

2015-02-26 Thread Stephen Prior
I have the same with the K3/P3 SVGA and my logging program (Rumlog).  If I
have the SVGA data display enabled I get almost complete rubbish sent to
the computer.  K3 displays normally.  Timing issue I expect.

73 Stephen G4SJP

On 26 February 2015 at 14:43, Wayne Burdick  wrote:

> If you're displaying text on the PX3, it will not also show up in the KX3
> Utility terminal window. We may provide this capability in the future.
>
> 73,
> Wayne
> N6KR
>
>
> On Feb 26, 2015, at 6:28 AM, steve  wrote:
>
> > I guess I didn't define "display" -- the text display.  I copied
> cw/psk31 fine on the KX3,  I think I got the text on the PX3 (don't
> remember), but it wasn't displaying the same on the terminal mode of the
> KX3 utility.  When I got home I checked the old emails and there is an
> issue.  I solved it (during the demo) by using fldigi, BUT it would be nice
> to have the PX3 Keyboard for input rather then NEED the computer for
> keyboard entry...  (yes, I "could" use the cw key for entry...)
> >
> > steve WB3LGC
> >
> > On 26-Feb-15 9:20 AM, Don Wilhelm wrote:
> >> Steve,
> >>
> >> To get good decode on the KX3/PX3 tune the station in carefully using
> CWT or auto-spot and keep the bandwidth narrow.
> >>
> >> 73,
> >> Don W3FPR
> >>
> >> On 2/26/2015 9:07 AM, steve wrote:
> >>> I helped, this last weekend, at a ham radio demo for a Boy Scout
> encampment of about ~250 Scouts and leaders.  I found that the
> KX3-PX3-computer (KX3 utility program - terminal) didn't display on the
> computer what the KX3 decoded.  The computer made a nice display - larger
> then the PX3, but the PX3 allowed me to find stations on 40m during the day
> (and it was dead).  I sort of remember an old email about this setup not
> working.  I looked it up when I got home.  Still not sure why it wouldn't
> work...  I did use the computer with fldigi.
> >>>
> >>> Anyway...  to keep things simple, it SURE would be nice to have the
> KEYBOARD working for the PX3...  It is difficult to be portable with a
> computer (for any length of time) and is not KISS, either.
> >>>
> >>> IT WAS a good demo as we had four stations setup in two locations.
> >>> The Scout planners want us back.  Keyboard in 2016??
> >>>
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[Elecraft] New K3 on the air

2015-02-26 Thread Dave Olean
Thanks to the Elecraft crew. I just assembled K3 #3 and after unwrapping all 
those anti static bags and plugging everything in, the darn thing worked 
great!! I did not get the 100 watt amp or a second receiver, as this radio will 
be used on the higher VHF bands. I just wanted to thank Eric and Wayne for 
running such a great outfit. There was a lot of thought I am sure,  put into 
how to test and calibrate each board. The fact that someone can assemble such a 
complex piece of electronic equipment out of subassemblies and have it all work 
like a well oiled machine is testimony to a lot of hard work. I appreciate it. 
I also can’t wait to check out the new and improved synthesizer. 
   There is so much snow here in Maine now that I can hardly reach my VHF 
shack, so I think the only band I can make a contact on is 160 M, which is the 
only band operating at the house. I hope I can make my first QSO this evening!  
10 watts? 160 M? a K3? No problem!
Thanks again Elecraft.

Dave K1WHS

K2 #915
K2 #1247
K2 #- (It’s a long story)
K3 # 1504
K3 # 3504
K3 # 8858
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Re: [Elecraft] Latest K3 firmware release (5.13) restores DUAL PB CW function

2015-02-26 Thread Jim's Desktop
Also not mentioned in the release notes - the ability to actually assign 
"LINK" to PF1 or PF2 by selecting the menu item and then holding the PF1 
or PF2 button for a couple seconds now actually works as well.  Just 
tested it.


Jim - W0EB



On 26/02/2015 11:50, Wayne Burdick wrote:

K3 beta firmware rev. 5.13 is now available on our K3 software page.

We neglected to mention in the release notes that the original "DUAL 
PB" CW function has been added back in.


73,
Wayne
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Re: [Elecraft] Latest K3 firmware release (5.13) restores DUAL PB CW function

2015-02-26 Thread Mike Harris
From my perspective very welcome news, many thanks for that.  I guess I 
can now seriously think about the synth upgrade after to order storm has 
died down a bit.


Regards,

Mike VP8NO

On 26/02/2015 11:50, Wayne Burdick wrote:

K3 beta firmware rev. 5.13 is now available on our K3 software page.

We neglected to mention in the release notes that the original "DUAL PB" CW 
function has been added back in.

73,
Wayne
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[Elecraft] Elecraft K3

2015-02-26 Thread Keith Ennis via Elecraft
 sold
Keith, KV5J, XE3/K5ENS
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[Elecraft] Latest K3 firmware release (5.13) restores DUAL PB CW function

2015-02-26 Thread Wayne Burdick
K3 beta firmware rev. 5.13 is now available on our K3 software page. 

We neglected to mention in the release notes that the original "DUAL PB" CW 
function has been added back in.

73,
Wayne
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Re: [Elecraft] K3_KSYN3A_Synthesizer

2015-02-26 Thread Wayne Burdick
DUAL PB is back. I neglected to update this in the release notes.

Wayne
N6KR

On Feb 26, 2015, at 4:26 AM, Mike Harris  wrote:

> Sad to note that dual passband "focus/context" filtering is still in the 
> wilderness according to the release notes.
> 
> Regards,
> 
> Mike VP8NO
> 
> On 25/02/2015 20:24, Don Wilhelm wrote:
>> Ken,
>> 
>> Go to the K3 beta firmware and download 5.13.  Yes, it is beta right
>> now, but it solves several problems and if no problems with it in the
>> next few days, it will be promoted to production status.
>> 
>> 73,
>> Don W3FPR
>> 
>> On 2/25/2015 6:00 PM, Ken Roberson via Elecraft wrote:
>>> Anyone else having trouble with milliwatt TX gain Cal using the new
>>> synthesizer boardOr is it just me.Also on the RF power out only one
>>> bar is lite up.If I set power to 0 dbm (1 milliwatt) it only shows
>>> -12.0 dbm ( .06 mw)
>>> Thanks
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Re: [Elecraft] KX3-PX3-computer

2015-02-26 Thread Wayne Burdick
If you're displaying text on the PX3, it will not also show up in the KX3 
Utility terminal window. We may provide this capability in the future.

73,
Wayne
N6KR


On Feb 26, 2015, at 6:28 AM, steve  wrote:

> I guess I didn't define "display" -- the text display.  I copied cw/psk31 
> fine on the KX3,  I think I got the text on the PX3 (don't remember), but it 
> wasn't displaying the same on the terminal mode of the KX3 utility.  When I 
> got home I checked the old emails and there is an issue.  I solved it (during 
> the demo) by using fldigi, BUT it would be nice to have the PX3 Keyboard for 
> input rather then NEED the computer for keyboard entry...  (yes, I "could" 
> use the cw key for entry...)
> 
> steve WB3LGC
> 
> On 26-Feb-15 9:20 AM, Don Wilhelm wrote:
>> Steve,
>> 
>> To get good decode on the KX3/PX3 tune the station in carefully using CWT or 
>> auto-spot and keep the bandwidth narrow.
>> 
>> 73,
>> Don W3FPR
>> 
>> On 2/26/2015 9:07 AM, steve wrote:
>>> I helped, this last weekend, at a ham radio demo for a Boy Scout encampment 
>>> of about ~250 Scouts and leaders.  I found that the KX3-PX3-computer (KX3 
>>> utility program - terminal) didn't display on the computer what the KX3 
>>> decoded.  The computer made a nice display - larger then the PX3, but the 
>>> PX3 allowed me to find stations on 40m during the day (and it was dead).  I 
>>> sort of remember an old email about this setup not working.  I looked it up 
>>> when I got home.  Still not sure why it wouldn't work...  I did use the 
>>> computer with fldigi.
>>> 
>>> Anyway...  to keep things simple, it SURE would be nice to have the 
>>> KEYBOARD working for the PX3...  It is difficult to be portable with a 
>>> computer (for any length of time) and is not KISS, either.
>>> 
>>> IT WAS a good demo as we had four stations setup in two locations.
>>> The Scout planners want us back.  Keyboard in 2016??
>>> 
>> 
> 
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Re: [Elecraft] KX3-PX3-computer

2015-02-26 Thread Bob N3MNT
. To turn on CW decode:  Hold TEXT, then rotate VFO B to select a receive
signal threshold (RX THR1-9). For weak signals, use low thresholds (RX
THR1-3). With strong signals, medium thresholds (RX THR4-6) provide better
copy. At very high code speeds, the highest thresholds work best (RX
THR7-9). Next, turn on CWT (CW tuning aid). Tune VFO A until the middle CWT
segment flashes in time with the incoming CW. If necessary, further adjust
the RX THR level to provide best copy



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Re: [Elecraft] KX3-PX3-computer

2015-02-26 Thread steve
I guess I didn't define "display" -- the text display.  I copied 
cw/psk31 fine on the KX3,  I think I got the text on the PX3 (don't 
remember), but it wasn't displaying the same on the terminal mode of the 
KX3 utility.  When I got home I checked the old emails and there is an 
issue.  I solved it (during the demo) by using fldigi, BUT it would be 
nice to have the PX3 Keyboard for input rather then NEED the computer 
for keyboard entry...  (yes, I "could" use the cw key for entry...)


steve WB3LGC

On 26-Feb-15 9:20 AM, Don Wilhelm wrote:

Steve,

To get good decode on the KX3/PX3 tune the station in carefully using 
CWT or auto-spot and keep the bandwidth narrow.


73,
Don W3FPR

On 2/26/2015 9:07 AM, steve wrote:
I helped, this last weekend, at a ham radio demo for a Boy Scout 
encampment of about ~250 Scouts and leaders.  I found that the 
KX3-PX3-computer (KX3 utility program - terminal) didn't display on 
the computer what the KX3 decoded.  The computer made a nice display 
- larger then the PX3, but the PX3 allowed me to find stations on 40m 
during the day (and it was dead).  I sort of remember an old email 
about this setup not working.  I looked it up when I got home.  Still 
not sure why it wouldn't work...  I did use the computer with fldigi.


Anyway...  to keep things simple, it SURE would be nice to have the 
KEYBOARD working for the PX3...  It is difficult to be portable with 
a computer (for any length of time) and is not KISS, either.


IT WAS a good demo as we had four stations setup in two locations.
The Scout planners want us back.  Keyboard in 2016??





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Re: [Elecraft] KX3-PX3-computer

2015-02-26 Thread Don Wilhelm

Steve,

To get good decode on the KX3/PX3 tune the station in carefully using 
CWT or auto-spot and keep the bandwidth narrow.


73,
Don W3FPR

On 2/26/2015 9:07 AM, steve wrote:
I helped, this last weekend, at a ham radio demo for a Boy Scout 
encampment of about ~250 Scouts and leaders.  I found that the 
KX3-PX3-computer (KX3 utility program - terminal) didn't display on 
the computer what the KX3 decoded.  The computer made a nice display - 
larger then the PX3, but the PX3 allowed me to find stations on 40m 
during the day (and it was dead).  I sort of remember an old email 
about this setup not working.  I looked it up when I got home.  Still 
not sure why it wouldn't work...  I did use the computer with fldigi.


Anyway...  to keep things simple, it SURE would be nice to have the 
KEYBOARD working for the PX3...  It is difficult to be portable with a 
computer (for any length of time) and is not KISS, either.


IT WAS a good demo as we had four stations setup in two locations.
The Scout planners want us back.  Keyboard in 2016??



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[Elecraft] KX3-PX3-computer

2015-02-26 Thread steve
I helped, this last weekend, at a ham radio demo for a Boy Scout 
encampment of about ~250 Scouts and leaders.  I found that the 
KX3-PX3-computer (KX3 utility program - terminal) didn't display on the 
computer what the KX3 decoded.  The computer made a nice display - 
larger then the PX3, but the PX3 allowed me to find stations on 40m 
during the day (and it was dead).  I sort of remember an old email about 
this setup not working.  I looked it up when I got home.  Still not sure 
why it wouldn't work...  I did use the computer with fldigi.


Anyway...  to keep things simple, it SURE would be nice to have the 
KEYBOARD working for the PX3...  It is difficult to be portable with a 
computer (for any length of time) and is not KISS, either.


IT WAS a good demo as we had four stations setup in two locations.
The Scout planners want us back.  Keyboard in 2016??

73, steve WB3LGC
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Re: [Elecraft] Using CAL FIL and Spectrogram to set up the K2 filters

2015-02-26 Thread Don Wilhelm

Gareth,

Good work.  May I offer a couple suggestions:
1) On SSB filters other than the FL1 OP1 filter, look carefully at the 
actual filter width.  On many K2s, the actual width is far wider than 
that indicated by the K2 display.  You ideally want to have each filter 
progression about 200 to 300 Hz more narrow then the prior filter.  The 
easiest way to set that up is to first do LSB - the low frequency slope 
of the passband will not move substantially as you adjust the width.  
The set the BFOs for the filters after adjusting the width.


2) Rather than using SSB FL4 for PSK and other data modes, turn on RTTY 
in the secondary menu.  That gives you another set of filters and an 
independent compression setting from SSB and you don't have to remember 
to turn compression off when using data modes.  I normally set RTTY FL1 
the same as SSB FL1 (including the BFO settings - RTTY is LSB and RTTY 
rev is USB) and then set the FL2 to 1000 Hz, FL3 to 700 Hz and FL4 to 
400 Hz widths.  I center those 3 filters on 1000 Hz.  If you are not 
able to properly center the 400 Hz wide filter, you will have to pad the 
BFO with a small value capacitor (try 15 to 22pF) between pins 6 and 3 
of RF board U11 - then recheck the BFO range.  If you do have to make 
that change, you will need to re-do all the BFO alignments.


73,
Don W3FPR

On 2/26/2015 8:29 AM, Gareth - M5KVK wrote:

Having finally got my KSB2 board working (it was a hi-resistance solder joint: 
enough to depress performance but not stop all signals), and calibrated the 
dial, I turned to setting up the filters.

I started with the filter widths and BFO settings in the KSB2 manual, but it 
didn't sound right. So I decided to use WWV and Spectrogram.

Now that I knew that the VFO was OK, I set it to 1.00. No audio on LSB or 
USB, which is good.
I then tuned off by 600Hz to create a steady signal at 1.60kHz (.40kHz 
on the other sideband) and displayed the audio on spectrogram with a 600Hz 
marker set.
I then went through CAL FIL, adjusting the BFO so that the audio tone was 
exactly 600Hz.

I did this on all modes and filter widths: except FL4 on LSB and USB, which I 
adjusted for a 1000Hz centre (so I can use them for PSK31).

I was surprised how far off the displayed spectrum was with the factory 
settings. On USB FL4, the centre was at 400Hz with the manual’s suggested BFO 
setting.

73, Gareth M5KVK



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[Elecraft] Using CAL FIL and Spectrogram to set up the K2 filters

2015-02-26 Thread Gareth - M5KVK
Having finally got my KSB2 board working (it was a hi-resistance solder joint: 
enough to depress performance but not stop all signals), and calibrated the 
dial, I turned to setting up the filters.

I started with the filter widths and BFO settings in the KSB2 manual, but it 
didn't sound right. So I decided to use WWV and Spectrogram.

Now that I knew that the VFO was OK, I set it to 1.00. No audio on LSB or 
USB, which is good.
I then tuned off by 600Hz to create a steady signal at 1.60kHz (.40kHz 
on the other sideband) and displayed the audio on spectrogram with a 600Hz 
marker set.
I then went through CAL FIL, adjusting the BFO so that the audio tone was 
exactly 600Hz.

I did this on all modes and filter widths: except FL4 on LSB and USB, which I 
adjusted for a 1000Hz centre (so I can use them for PSK31).

I was surprised how far off the displayed spectrum was with the factory 
settings. On USB FL4, the centre was at 400Hz with the manual’s suggested BFO 
setting.

73, Gareth M5KVK
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Re: [Elecraft] K3 Locks up in Transmit in data mode.

2015-02-26 Thread Stewart Bryant

Joe

Spot on, many thanks for the advice.

73

Stewart

On 25/02/2015 23:11, Joe Subich, W4TV wrote:



The key factor in avoiding the hang (which happens in both DN780 and
FLdigi seems to be not sending audio with the CAT cable connected,
but the off-off setting should surely cause the CAT control lines to
be ignored, shouldn't it?


It's not the CAT control (RTS-DTR) lines you need to worry about.
It is sending TX ON and OX OFF commands via CAT that causes the
problem.  *Either* use PTT via CAT COMMANDS *or* use the VOX in
Signalink/K3 but don't use both.  It is when you mix CAT commands
and external PTT or VOX that you get the "hang" problem.

In DM780 you can use PTT on the DTR line *don't* use CAT commands.
In Fldigi *do not* use "CAT command for PTT" - instead use "Toggle
DTR for PTT".

*Many* rigs appear to have a race condition in processing CAT based
PTT commands and hardware (DTR) PTT.  I do not know the internals
but it appears they ignore the hardware PTT while processing the CAT
command and if the hardware PTT disappears at the wrong time the CAT
TX OFF is ignored and then there is no hardware PTT off.  In almost
every case simply "bumping" the PTT button on the mic will release
the stuck PTT.

73,

  ... Joe, W4TV


On 2015-02-25 5:30 PM, Stewart Bryant wrote:

Hi Don

Thanks for the reply.

On 25/02/2015 22:23, Don Wilhelm wrote:

Stewart,

By saying you are "using VOX in Signalink to control PTT" are you
saying that you are using the PTT output of Signalink to control
transmission?  With a cable to the PTT jack?

Yes, that is how it is configured.


You mentioned the "RS-232 cable" which makes me wonder which of the
Signalink "Radio Cables" you are using.  I am going to assume you are
using the SLUSBK3 cable which connects to the K3 reap panel audio
jacks and the PTT jack.

Correct.


If so, do you also have VOX set on in the K3.

No, I turned this off.


This is a common problem if both Signalink PTT and the K3 VOX are
active.  Unplug the PTT cable from the Signalink and just use the VOX
in the K3, or turn off VOX in the K3 and use the PTT from Signalink -
your choice, but do not use both.

The key factor in avoiding the hang (which happens in both DN780 and
FLdigi seems to be not sending audio with the CAT cable connected, but
the off-off setting should surely cause the CAT control lines to be
ignored, shouldn't it?

73

Stewart/G3YSX


73,
Don W3FPR

On 2/25/2015 4:35 PM, Stewart Bryant wrote:

Hi

This is probably finger trouble, but I cannot see
what the problem is, so I wonder if anyone
knows what is going on.

I have a K3, Sigalink and HRD/DM780.

For voice and CW including using the winkeyer all
works fine including CAT.

However I get a transmit lockup in data mode.

I am using vox from the Sigalink to control the K3 PTT.

I have K3 power turned to zero.

I set the K3 in data mode and send some data and all is well
relays go over tries to send some data goes back to receive.

If I plug in the RS232 cable and send some data all works
well, the Sigalink drops PTT, buy the K3 locks in
transmit and will not come out of transmit until I power
cycle the K3. Removing the RS232 cable has no effect unless
I power cycle the K3.

Removing the RS232 cable and all works exactly as expected.

I have configured ptt to off-off.

Does anyone have any idea what I am doing wrong here?

Many thanks

Stewart/G3YSX

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Re: [Elecraft] K3_KSYN3A_Synthesizer

2015-02-26 Thread Mike Harris
Sad to note that dual passband "focus/context" filtering is still in the 
wilderness according to the release notes.


Regards,

Mike VP8NO

On 25/02/2015 20:24, Don Wilhelm wrote:

Ken,

Go to the K3 beta firmware and download 5.13.  Yes, it is beta right
now, but it solves several problems and if no problems with it in the
next few days, it will be promoted to production status.

73,
Don W3FPR

On 2/25/2015 6:00 PM, Ken Roberson via Elecraft wrote:

Anyone else having trouble with milliwatt TX gain Cal using the new
synthesizer boardOr is it just me.Also on the RF power out only one
bar is lite up.If I set power to 0 dbm (1 milliwatt) it only shows
-12.0 dbm ( .06 mw)
Thanks

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[Elecraft] K3 - perceived RX and TX audio

2015-02-26 Thread Bill

If you don't like the audio from your K3 - you don't have to keep it!

With all the various AGC, DSP, and filter settings - and the two 
equalizers - _your_ K3 can be made to sound any way _you_ want it to sound.


It used to be that some radios just plain sounded good or just plain 
lousy - for whatever reason(s). The K3 can be anything from lousy to 
excellent - it is all up to the user to make the adjustments. Nothing is 
fixed in the K3 - there are nearly infinite variables to suit any 
situation. You can set it up for weak signal CW or resounding armchair 
copy - the choice is yours. The K3 can do it all.


Now, just why is it that I keep seeing mention of the K3's poor audio? 
Sounds to me like it is more the operator is unable to make the 
necessary menu selections. Or, more likely, the complainer never 
actually heard a K3.


Now, back to 75 meters and a little Kool-Aide.

Bill W2BLC K-Line


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Re: [Elecraft] [K2] Confused when calibrating 4MHz oscillator

2015-02-26 Thread M5KVK - Gareth
Right. It was the relationship between BFO and VFO I was missing. Nevertheless, 
I followed the procedure last night and it seems to have worked.

I admit that it took three goes until I got the knack of adjusting C22 
correctly, but it worked. I knew it would but I like to understand how rather 
than just taking it on trust.

Thanks (again), Don.

Sent from my iPad
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