[Elecraft] Update of Fred Cady's K3 book?

[Jim Lowman]

I understand that Fred Cady may be publishing an addendum to his 
excellent K3 book, to include the K3S.


Any information?

73 de Jim - AD6CW
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Re: [Elecraft] K3/0-Mini

[Barry Baines]

George:

Other than the specific instructions needed to connect the K3/IO-Mini to a K3 
trough a Remote Rig device, there is nothing different about setting up and 
operating the K3/IO-Mini than there is in operating the target K3 itself.  Keep 
in mind that the front panel of the K3/IO-mini (including all knobs, menus, 
etc.) directly controls the corresponding settings of the “remote” (or 
“target”) K3 that it is connected to.  When you change a setting on the 
K3/IO-Mini, it is actually changing the settings on the target K3.  If you go 
into the configuration menus, you’re changing the configuration of the target 
K3.

The only exception off hand that I can think of to this general statement is 
that K3 must be set for “rear panel” microphone so that the mic feed that is 
coming from the “remote” K3/IO-Mini to the target K3 which in fact is fed to 
the rear panel connection of the target K3, is utilized.  Otherwise, if a front 
panel mic source is selected, the audio will not be fed into the target K3 from 
the K3/IO-Mini.

The real question is whether the operator is familiar with using a K3 and knows 
how to configure settings to meet their needs.  Thus, reviewing the K3 
operating manual makes much sense since that is what is being controlled by the 
K3/IO-Mini.

My comments are based upon using the K3/IO-Mini via remote rig directly to my 
remote rig controller at the target K3 (e.g. the 1258MK II system) and NOT 
using remotehams.com service. I am not familiar with remotehams.com setup, but 
presume that the same concepts apply.

Hope this helps,

Barry Baines, WD4ASW
Westborough, MA
Folkston, GA
(Currently in Shelby, NC)


On Sep 5, 2015, at 11:10 PM, George via Elecraft  
wrote:
> 
> 
> I am setting up a K3/0-Mini for a friend who will use it to operate  remote 
> stations accessible via remotehams.com service.
> 
> The K3/0-Mini was delivered with an Owner's Manual.  The  manual is limited 
> to describing how  to set up the Mini to  work with a PC, how to operate 
> with the RemoteRig 1258 MKII System (which  we are not using), and how to 
> update the Mini's firmware.  The Owner's  Manual does not contain any 
> information about how to use all of the controls on  the Mini, or any 
> information 
> about its Menu and Config selections.  
> 
> Since the person who will be using the Mini is not familiar with at  all 
> with the Mini, or its big brother, a K3, we will need a user-oriented manual  
> that provides the all the information that an operator will need to  know. I 
> can download copy of a K3 manual, however, I don't know if the  
> explanations described for a K3 also pertain to the functions of the  
> K3/0_Mini.
> 
> Please let me know if there is a more complete user-oriented Operator's  
> Manual for the MIni, or will the K3 manual correctly explain all the  
> functions of the Mini?
> 
> Thanks, George.
> 
> George  Wagner, K5KG
> Sarasota, FL  34242
> 941-400-1960
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[Elecraft] K3/0-Mini

[George via Elecraft]

I am setting up a K3/0-Mini for a friend who will use it to operate  remote 
stations accessible via remotehams.com service.
 
The K3/0-Mini was delivered with an Owner's Manual.  The  manual is limited 
to describing how  to set up the Mini to  work with a PC, how to operate 
with the RemoteRig 1258 MKII System (which  we are not using), and how to 
update the Mini's firmware.  The Owner's  Manual does not contain any 
information about how to use all of the controls on  the Mini, or any 
information 
about its Menu and Config selections.  
 
Since the person who will be using the Mini is not familiar with at  all 
with the Mini, or its big brother, a K3, we will need a user-oriented manual  
that provides the all the information that an operator will need to  know. I 
can download copy of a K3 manual, however, I don't know if the  
explanations described for a K3 also pertain to the functions of the  K3/0_Mini.
 
Please let me know if there is a more complete user-oriented Operator's  
Manual for the MIni, or will the K3 manual correctly explain all the  
functions of the Mini?
 
Thanks, George.
 
George  Wagner, K5KG
Sarasota, FL  34242
941-400-1960
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[Elecraft] K3S - Ordered Today!!

[ae4pb]

YAY! 
I ordered my K3S today. I'm really hoping I get a cool serial number

Jerry Moore,
AE4PB, K3S SN: TBA

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[Elecraft] K3S - Ordered Today!!

[Jerry Moore]

YAY! 
I ordered my K3S today. I'm really hoping I get a cool serial number

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Re: [Elecraft] Old Synth Boards

[Nr4c]

Well it uses the same socket and screw holes and fits both the K3 and K3s. 
Looks about the same size. 

Sent from my iPhone
...nr4c. bill


> On Sep 5, 2015, at 8:48 PM, bs usb  wrote:
> 
> Say, does the new synthesizer have the same footprint as the old synthesizer 
> or is it an entirely different device? Maybe even from a different 
> manufacturer?
> 
> James Wilson wrote:
>> Also, if you've ever wondered about your handling
>> of surface mounted devices (SMD) the old synth
>> boards are full of SMDs. With some desoldering wick
>> you can remove devices and replace them without
>> any worry of doing harm. Good practice.
>> 
>> Later, you can still recycle the boards.
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[Elecraft] K3: Any gain with a new synth?

[P.J.Hicks]

I consider myself a casual operator. I get on when I can, avoid the contests, 
rag chew a lot, and have fun. I mostly work SSB with my K3 but am working on 
code speed. I use WIN4K3 as a control program and panadaptor. 
  
These differences are purely subjective and without measurement. All computer 
controls unchanged and K3 controls returned to previous settings. 
  
Before going to the new synth I had a no signal noise floor S meter reading of 
4 or 5, occasionally 6 
The panadaptor background had scattered 'clutter' noise and I could see very 
close adjacent signals but not read them. 
The noise floor 'line' on the display was at about -102 db and 4 to 6 db wide 
peak to peak 
  
After the mod I had a no signal noise floor S-meter reading of 2 to 3 sometimes 
4 
The panadaptor background was much clearer, signals more distinct and close 
together signals were easier to separate and copy  
The noise floor line was at -106 to -108 and the line was thinner by a couple 
db. 
  
Just my observations and YMMV 
  
73, PJH, N7PXY 
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[Elecraft] K3 UART communication with LabView

[Russ]

I am trying to understand the SET/GET protocol to serially communicate with the 
K3.
I am experimenting with "FA;" which will retrieve the VFO A frequency. After I 
send the command, I get back responses three bytes at a time which I accumulate 
in a ring buffer until the response is complete.  Sometimes I get the correct 
frequency in the response, sometimes only an "FA".  Manual frequency change 
from the K3's front panel does not seem to be acknowledged.  FA followed by the 
frequency does effect a frequency change.

Is there a use group dedicated to UART K3 control?

Thanks, Russ KD4JO
  
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[Elecraft] Weekly Elecraft SSB Net

[Ian - Ham]

All,

 

The weekly Elecraft SSB Net meets tomorrow, Sunday, September 6, on 14.3035
+/-, at 18:00 UTC. I will be net control from the suburbs north of Atlanta,
GA. Hopefully band conditions will be a little better than they have in past
weeks. All are welcome to join, Labor Day Weekend plans permitting.

 

Hear everyone on the net!

 

73 de,

 

--Ian

Ian Kahn, KM4IK
Roswell, GA  EM74ua
km4ik@gmail.com  

10-10 #74624, North Georgia Chapter #2038

PODXS 070 #1962
K3# 281, P3 #688, KAT500 #860, KPA500 #1468

 



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Re: [Elecraft] (OT) Touchscreens

[Doug Person via Elecraft]

Guy,

A very thoughtful perspective.  It is indeed a very challenging user 
interface to design.  I'm sure that there will be dozens of solutions 
that work on iOS and Android.  Building Bluetooth into a radio and 
allowing full control through it would be the gateway that needs opening.


I favor a touch enabled flat panel connected directly into the radio's 
microprocessor.  Everything I've done so far shows that the latency 
through the serial port is a usability inhibitor.  It's never going to 
feel natural until it is updating visual objects within a few 
milliseconds.  What I'm envisioning is something like 20 to 30 objects 
that are completely customizable for size, color, function and 
location.  The user could develop a particular layout and save it.  Each 
band and mode can be a different layout.


And then there is the interactive voice interface with commands like "go 
to fourteen zero seven zero mode PSK", "send CQ", "answer K0DXV" or 
"load contest configuration three".  Might be handy to be able to just 
tell you radio what to do and watch the interface change to accommodate you.


I expect that 10 years from now I'll walk into the kitchen in the 
morning and say "Mr. Coffee - Make a large regular coffee".  My coffee 
maker will say "Right away" and the beans will start grinding.  I'll 
then take my coffee into the shack and say "K5 on" and a marvelous radio 
will come to life...


73, Doug -- K0DXV

The real key is going to be the degree of customization available.

On 9/4/2015 3:25 PM, Guy Olinger K2AV wrote:

There will always be those that try concepts in places they have never been
used. But touchscreens have been around for a long time and a lot is known
about them. The all time great defining application for them is in
restaurants for wait staff to enter your food selection.

Repetitive operations using touchscreens require physical use research
which includes designing a mounting scheme that does not produce
physical strain under normal operation.

Normal accuracy of touch point taps has to be accommodated in screen apps.
Large tap points that appear and vanish with an appropriate logic produce
the great workplace improvements. E.g. the wait staff screens.

The stuff behind successful touchscreen apps is mind boggling, often
involving years even now decades of incremental research and program
changes. This touchscreen editor I'm using right now on my smartphone is
one such.

Any one of the list of must-do's ignored and the app is likely doomed.

Touchscreen radio? Not wishing anyone bad luck but they've bitten off quite
a piece of work. Radio ops are very repetitive in contests.

You'll never sell me a pure touch radio for contesting. Maybe a talky with
the form factor of my iPhone 6+ with a Bluetooth linked manual control and
separate Bluetooth linked amp/transmitter.

The obvious (to me anyway) touch interface is to use a smart phone app that
can also run on a tablet. Most people have already bought it and will
replace it when it breaks for dozens of unrelated needs. Don't have to
embed that cost and development into the radio. Let me use my house wifi or
Bluetooth to link to my K3. The K3 change is to provide the interface. An
internal board that listens to wifi and Bluetooth. All single chip stuff
these days.

Will be interesting to see what survives of touchscreen radio when the
latest and greatest crowd has lost interest and moved on.

73, Guy K2AV

On Friday, September 4, 2015, Bill Stravinsky via Elecraft <
elecraft@mailman.qth.net
> wrote:


Not sure why I needed to know about an Icom 7300 and am guessing it has a
touchscreen.  Leave the touchscreens
to the smart phones, IMHO.  If I had a smartphone I wouldn't have a
problem with its touchscreen.  I have 3 laptops and have mice for all of
them, can't stand touchpads either.  Radios should have knobs, buttons, and
switches.
I feel confident that Elecraft wouldn't go there.  Let Icom and whomever
else make a radio with a touch screen.
73Bill K3WJV
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Re: [Elecraft] Old Synth Boards

[bs usb]

Say, does the new synthesizer have the same footprint as the old 
synthesizer or is it an entirely different device? Maybe even from a 
different manufacturer?


James Wilson wrote:

Also, if you've ever wondered about your handling
of surface mounted devices (SMD) the old synth
boards are full of SMDs. With some desoldering wick
you can remove devices and replace them without
any worry of doing harm. Good practice.

Later, you can still recycle the boards.
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Re: [Elecraft] Intermittent Loss of Power Output

[Don Wilhelm]

Rich,

The T/R switching in the K3S is completely electronic, so no T/R relay 
exists inside.
Since you report that switching from ANT1 to ANT2 and back corrects the 
symptoms, I would suggest that you check the tightness of your antenna 
coax to make certain all connectors in your antenna system are tight.  A 
loose connector or bad coax link can often behave like you describe.


73,
Don W3FPR

On 9/5/2015 7:37 PM, KE1B wrote:

I put my new K3S under “contest conditions” for the first time this weekend, 
and discovered an intermittent problem.

Running SSB (it may happen in other modes as well, I don’t know), the radio 
will stop outputting power. I hit the footswitch and the radio goes into TX 
mode, and I can hear myself clearly in the monitor in the headset. (That tells 
me that it’s not an intermittent microphone connector.) I checked the Mic level 
and Power level and they are where they are supposed to be (31 and 50W, 
respectively). However, the power meter LEDs don’t move, and the amplifier is 
getting no drive.

A power-off/power-on reset of the radio cures the problem. Interestingly, 
switching from ANT1 to ANT2 and back cures the problem. The problem occurs 
every few minutes during “intense” (contest) operation. Could I have a 
defective/intermittent T/R relay, or is this something anyone has seen before?




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[Elecraft] Intermittent Loss of Power Output

[KE1B]

I put my new K3S under “contest conditions” for the first time this weekend, 
and discovered an intermittent problem.

Running SSB (it may happen in other modes as well, I don’t know), the radio 
will stop outputting power. I hit the footswitch and the radio goes into TX 
mode, and I can hear myself clearly in the monitor in the headset. (That tells 
me that it’s not an intermittent microphone connector.) I checked the Mic level 
and Power level and they are where they are supposed to be (31 and 50W, 
respectively). However, the power meter LEDs don’t move, and the amplifier is 
getting no drive.

A power-off/power-on reset of the radio cures the problem. Interestingly, 
switching from ANT1 to ANT2 and back cures the problem. The problem occurs 
every few minutes during “intense” (contest) operation. Could I have a 
defective/intermittent T/R relay, or is this something anyone has seen before?

Rich KE1B


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[Elecraft] Old Synth Boards

[James Wilson]

Also, if you've ever wondered about your handling
of surface mounted devices (SMD) the old synth
boards are full of SMDs. With some desoldering wick
you can remove devices and replace them without
any worry of doing harm. Good practice.

Later, you can still recycle the boards.
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[Elecraft] First QSOs using PX3 with keyboard

[Wayne Burdick]

Hi all,

This afternoon I installed an early version of the PX3 firmware with full 
keyboard support. Works great with a Logitech K360 wireless keyboard (a real 
steal at $19). I made a few QSOs in both CW and RTTY mode (FSK-D on the KX3) to 
check things out. 

The PX3 won't work with just any USB keyboard. For example, those that include 
other built-in USB devices such as trackpads will not work with this 
implementation. So I strongly recommend not purchasing one until we provide a 
list of those we've tested. 

There are a still a few wrinkles to work out, but it is most definitely a nice 
addition to the PX3. We'll be looking for a few testers when the next version 
is ready (please wait for the announcement before you volunteer :)

73,
Wayne
N6KR

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Re: [Elecraft] K3S IMD Questions

[Al Lorona]

Exactly right, Wes. The 10 dB rule-of-thumb is a *minimum* and it would be 
better if the measuring instrument were more than 10 dB better.

I'm not sure that the Flex radio originally mentioned meets that phase noise 
requirement. If its phase noise is on par with the K3's then it's not suitable 
for an accurate phase noise measurement. Depending on the numbers, you *might* 
be able to say "A is better than B," but you couldn't say how much better with 
any certainty.


Al  W6LX

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> be, as a rule of thumb, 10 dB better than the device you're measuring.  
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Re: [Elecraft] Lines crisper on P3 since KSYN3A upgrade?

[wb4jfi]

I have collected a few of them with plans to use them in undetermined 
projects.  Before you toss them, I would be willing to pay postage to have 
them sent to me.  If I eventually can't use them, or if one blows out for 
someone, I can always forward one of the boards to them.


It does appear to be difficult to program the boards, but I am persistent, 
even if not smart!

73, Terry, N4TLF (formally WB4JFI)


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From: Barry

Sent: Saturday, September 05, 2015 2:27 PM
To: elecraft@mailman.qth.net
Subject: [Elecraft] Lines crisper on P3 since KSYN3A upgrade?

Installed the 2 KSYN3A boards yesterday.  Very straight-forward and I didn't
even drop a lock washer  :-)  Kudos to Elecraft!

Anyway, using the K3 and P3 on 20m today and the lines for the CW sigs seems
thinner/crisper.  Is there something to this or am I imagining it?  I
haven't had the radio on much the last 3-4 months with summer doldrums
condx.

Also, has anyone come up with a use for the old SYN boards?  I hate to just
toss them in the garbage, but I don't want to save them, either, if they no
longer have any use.

Barry W2UP



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Re: [Elecraft] Old Synth Boards

[Jim Rogers]

Barry, I would offer them to someone who has a K3 and wants to purchase 
the KRX3 but does not want to upgrade to the new Synth boards.  I had 
some old Firmware chips for the K2 and a guy needed a replacement. I was 
happy to supply him with what he needed.  You never know, there might be 
a market for the old synth boards.


Jim, W4ATK

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Re: [Elecraft] Lines crisper on P3 since KSYN3A upgrade?

[Al Gulseth]

Barry,

I can't address the P3 question since the "brand E" here is a K2. However, on 
your second point, "toss them in the garbage" is a no-no from an 
environmental standpoint. ANY electronics disposal should be via proper 
recycling. There are multiple local dropoff points for e-waste here in 
rural "flyover country" so I'm sure anyone in a more populated/more 
environmentally conscious area should have no problem finding a recycling 
center. /rant off HI HI!!

That being said, perhaps someone could establish a clearinghouse for 
unneeded/unwanted boards leftover from upgrades such as your SYN boards. If 
Murphy has anything to do with it, a few days or a week after you decide to 
dispose of the boards someone will be looking for one or both of them

73, Al

On Sat September 5 2015 1:27:32 pm Barry wrote:
> Installed the 2 KSYN3A boards yesterday.  Very straight-forward and I
> didn't even drop a lock washer  :-)  Kudos to Elecraft!
>
> Anyway, using the K3 and P3 on 20m today and the lines for the CW sigs
> seems thinner/crisper.  Is there something to this or am I imagining it?  I
> haven't had the radio on much the last 3-4 months with summer doldrums
> condx.
>
> Also, has anyone come up with a use for the old SYN boards?  I hate to just
> toss them in the garbage, but I don't want to save them, either, if they no
> longer have any use.
>
> Barry W2UP
>
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[Elecraft] Lines crisper on P3 since KSYN3A upgrade?

[Barry]

Installed the 2 KSYN3A boards yesterday.  Very straight-forward and I didn't
even drop a lock washer  :-)  Kudos to Elecraft!

Anyway, using the K3 and P3 on 20m today and the lines for the CW sigs seems
thinner/crisper.  Is there something to this or am I imagining it?  I
haven't had the radio on much the last 3-4 months with summer doldrums
condx.

Also, has anyone come up with a use for the old SYN boards?  I hate to just
toss them in the garbage, but I don't want to save them, either, if they no
longer have any use.

Barry W2UP



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Re: [Elecraft] K3: Any gain with a new synth?

[george fritkin via Elecraft]

I have two K3s and now a new K3S.  I not sure the sync card makes much 
difference, but the noise reduction is now outstanding.
George, W6GF
PS: A great radio was made greater 


 On Saturday, September 5, 2015 9:39 AM, Phil Wheeler  
wrote:
   

 Bob,

I noticed an improvement right away just by tuning 
20 CW during a very active contest weekend. My 
ability to pull out weak signals was much enhanced.

But I do agree completely with you for Bill's 
purposes "I don't contest or DX - just rag chew on 
160/75/40... ".

73, Phil W7OX

On 9/5/15 7:54 AM, Chortek Bob via Elecraft wrote:
> Bill,
> I upgraded the synth and have not noticed any difference whatsoever.  That is 
> not to say there is none, only that I could not tell any difference since I 
> could not do any A/B comparisons. I am very skeptical of those who claim to 
> have noticed a difference without having done an actual A/B comparisons.  Far 
> too many factors at play.
> The K3 is a truly exceptional performer.  For your uses, you would not notice 
> any difference either, IMHO.
> 73,
> Bob/AA6VB
>
>
>
> On 9/5/2015 6:03 AM, Bill wrote:
>> My K3 is from early 2012 - ser: 62xx. I don't contest or DX - just rag chew 
>> on
>> 160/75/40 - makes a super 500 Watt station. Rarely do I touch any controls
>> other than the VFO or band switch. My QTH is very low noise - typical local
>> daytime noise level barely registers on the P3 (think S-0). Yeah, I know I, I
>> could be using something that cost far less. I enjoy the Rolls Royce!
>>
>> Now that there are a fair number of K3S rigs and modified K3 rigs in  the
>> field - there should be something for me to learn from the users.
>>
>> Considering my use of the K3 and my QTH - what would I gain by installing the
>> new synth  (KSYN3A) in the existing K3? I am looking for real-world 75 meter
>> LSB experience. Wife says go for the K3S if I want to, but I think it is
>> overkill for what I do. Yankee cheap I guess.

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Re: [Elecraft] P3. Aux Data Port.

[Tom]

Hi
I believe that Elecraft has provided that for a "future" feature that can 
give the actual XY data appearing on the scope in ASCII.
This could be useful for remote panadapters.  The feature is not yet in the 
firmware.

73 Tom
va2fsq.com

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Sent: Saturday, September 05, 2015 1:21 PM
To: elecraft
Subject: [Elecraft] P3. Aux Data Port.

I was showing my P3 to friend today and the question arose: "What's the Aux 
Data Port used for?"


Any thoughts?

Sent from my iPhone
...nr4c. bill

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[Elecraft] P3. Aux Data Port.

[Nr4c]

I was showing my P3 to friend today and the question arose: "What's the Aux 
Data Port used for?"

Any thoughts?

Sent from my iPhone
...nr4c. bill

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[Elecraft] [KX3] Setting QRP power levels

[Paul Dickson]

I was always forgetting to reset the power level when switching to and from
WSPR operation, so I thought I would set up some macros to do all the
changes for me.  But looking at the Programmer's Reference, I can not see
how to set the power level to anything lower than 1 Watt, with the command
PC001;   I want to set it to 200mW.

I can do it with the panel knob, and the display shows tenths of a Watt.
How can I do it in a macro?
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Re: [Elecraft] K3 Microphone Connection

[Ian White]

The Koss SB/45 works well for me too. Unlike the CM-500, it is readily
available in Europe (see Amazon).

For a more lightweight on-ear style of headset, I can still recommend
the Koss CS-100.

As Jim so often says, the K3, K3S and KX3 don't need a "gold-plated"
microphone or headset. They perform superbly with almost any
computer-style headset. Make your own choices about comfort and
ruggedness, but those transceivers can make them all sound equally good.

The "best in class" transmit audio quality of the K3, K3S and KX3 has
been almost overlooked amid all the other publicity about receiver
performance and phase noise. In more than 50 years, the K3 was the first
transceiver that had *ever* brought me unsolicited compliments about
audio quality. With their different voices, my wife and guest operators
still receive the same kinds of comments, and it's all done with those
cheap headsets. 


73 from Ian GM3SEK


>-Original Message-
>From: Elecraft [mailto:elecraft-boun...@mailman.qth.net] On Behalf Of
>Ken
>Sent: 05 September 2015 13:20
>To: elecraft@mailman.qth.net
>Subject: Re: [Elecraft] K3 Microphone Connection
>
>I'm with Jim, I have a Koss SB/45 that plugs directly into the rear of
>the K3.  I get great audio reports and it's only $25 on Amazon.
>
>Ken WA8JXM
>
>On 9/5/15 2:00 AM, Jim Brown wrote:
>> Can't help you with that part of it. I use Yamaha CM500, which plugs
>> into the rear panel connecters. Far superior and MUCH cheaper.
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Re: [Elecraft] KDVR/DSP/Microphone Connector Issues

[I4UFH via Elecraft]

Did u select front / rear Mic between test ?

I4UFH

Inviato da iPhone

> Il giorno 05/set/2015, alle ore 18:12, pastor...@verizon.net ha scritto:
> 
> Good Morning,
> This is Mark Griffin, KB3Z. I installed a KDVR module yesterday in which my 
> K3 recognizes that. But I cannot get any power output or ALC when I connect 
> my microphone to the front microphone connector. According to the service 
> people at Elecraft they tell me that the microphone connector in the front is 
> connected to the DSP board. And you must not have one of the pin connector 
> seated correctly. Well, I have taken the K3 apart 4 times and put it back to 
> together again making sure that everything is seated the way it should be and 
> it still will not work. So I connected my microphone to the rear connector 
> and lo and behold it gives me output power and ALC. Of course you need to use 
> the PTT to get it to work. That is the only drawback to that theory. But,
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[Elecraft] KDVR/DSP/Microphone Connector Issues

[pastormg2]

Good Morning,
This is Mark Griffin, KB3Z. I installed a KDVR module yesterday in which my K3 
recognizes that. But I cannot get any power output or ALC when I connect my 
microphone to the front microphone connector. According to the service people 
at Elecraft they tell me that the microphone connector in the front is 
connected to the DSP board. And you must not have one of the pin connector 
seated correctly. Well, I have taken the K3 apart 4 times and put it back to 
together again making sure that everything is seated the way it should be and 
it still will not work. So I connected my microphone to the rear connector and 
lo and behold it gives me output power and ALC. Of course you need to use the 
PTT to get it to work. That is the only drawback to that theory. But,
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Re: [Elecraft] K3: Any gain with a new synth?

[Hisashi T Fujinaka]

NK7Z has some A/B comparisons that show some improvement and I thought I
heard the same differences during a contest.

However, I bet you won't see that much difference using LSB on the lower
bands. I am quite jealous of your noise levels.

On Sat, 5 Sep 2015, Phil Wheeler wrote:


Bob,

I noticed an improvement right away just by tuning 20 CW during a very active 
contest weekend. My ability to pull out weak signals was much enhanced.


But I do agree completely with you for Bill's purposes "I don't contest or DX 
- just rag chew on 160/75/40... ".


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Re: [Elecraft] KDVR/DSP/Microphone Connector Issues

[Joe Subich, W4TV]

Would this issue that I am having also effect the receive audio for
PSK31 and also Rtty?


Receive audio is on a different connector than the front panel mic
audio.  However, if the DSP board (or front panel) was not installed
correctly (misaligned/bent/broken pins on one or more connectors) it
could impact Line Out audio.

Connect a set of powered speakers to the Line Out jack and see if
you have audio there.

73,

  ... Joe, W4TV


On 9/5/2015 11:25 AM, pastor...@verizon.net wrote:

Good Morning, This is Mark Griffin, KB3Z. I installed a KDVR module
yesterday in which my K3 recognizes that. But I cannot get any power
output or ALC when I connect my microphone to the front microphone
connector. According to the service people at Elecraft they tell me
that the microphone connector in the front is connected to the DSP
board. And you must not have one of the pin connector seated
correctly. Well, I have taken the K3 apart 4 times and put it back to
together again making sure that everything is seated the way it
should be and it still will not work. So I connected my microphone to
the rear connector and lo and behold it gives me output power and
ALC. Of course you need to use the PTT to get it to work. That is the
only drawback to that theory. But, I thought I would try PSK/Rtty
this morning. So I started FLDigi and connects to my K3 via Digi
Keyer II, but I don't see any receive audio on the waterfall display.
And I also tried MMTTY and got the same exact thing for Rtty. I did
switch the mode to AFSK.  Would this issue that I am having also
effect the receive audio for PSK31 and also Rtty? I did write an
email to K3Support this morning, but I doubt I will hear anything
until Tuesday. Any suggestions/help would be very much appreciated.
Mark Griffin, KB3Z
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[Elecraft] KDVR/DSP/Microphone Connector Issues

[pastormg2]

Good Morning,
This is Mark Griffin, KB3Z. I installed a KDVR module yesterday in which my K3 
recognizes that. But I cannot get any power output or ALC when I connect my 
microphone to the front microphone connector. According to the service people 
at Elecraft they tell me that the microphone connector in the front is 
connected to the DSP board. And you must not have one of the pin connector 
seated correctly. Well, I have taken the K3 apart 4 times and put it back to 
together again making sure that everything is seated the way it should be and 
it still will not work. So I connected my microphone to the rear connector and 
lo and behold it gives me output power and ALC. Of course you need to use the 
PTT to get it to work. That is the only drawback to that theory. But, I thought 
I would try PSK/Rtty this morning. So I started FLDigi and connects to my K3 
via Digi Keyer II, but I don't see any receive audio on the waterfall display. 
And I also tried MMTTY and got the same exact thing for Rtty. I
  did switch the mode to AFSK.  Would this issue that I am having also effect 
the receive audio for PSK31 and also Rtty? I did write an email to K3Support 
this morning, but I doubt I will hear anything until Tuesday. Any 
suggestions/help would be very much appreciated. Mark Griffin, KB3Z
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Re: [Elecraft] K3: Any gain with a new synth?

[Phil Wheeler]

Bob,

I noticed an improvement right away just by tuning 
20 CW during a very active contest weekend. My 
ability to pull out weak signals was much enhanced.


But I do agree completely with you for Bill's 
purposes "I don't contest or DX - just rag chew on 
160/75/40... ".


73, Phil W7OX

On 9/5/15 7:54 AM, Chortek Bob via Elecraft wrote:

Bill,
I upgraded the synth and have not noticed any difference whatsoever.  That is 
not to say there is none, only that I could not tell any difference since I 
could not do any A/B comparisons. I am very skeptical of those who claim to 
have noticed a difference without having done an actual A/B comparisons.  Far 
too many factors at play.
The K3 is a truly exceptional performer.  For your uses, you would not notice 
any difference either, IMHO.
73,
Bob/AA6VB



On 9/5/2015 6:03 AM, Bill wrote:

My K3 is from early 2012 - ser: 62xx. I don't contest or DX - just rag chew on
160/75/40 - makes a super 500 Watt station. Rarely do I touch any controls
other than the VFO or band switch. My QTH is very low noise - typical local
daytime noise level barely registers on the P3 (think S-0). Yeah, I know I, I
could be using something that cost far less. I enjoy the Rolls Royce!

Now that there are a fair number of K3S rigs and modified K3 rigs in  the
field - there should be something for me to learn from the users.

Considering my use of the K3 and my QTH - what would I gain by installing the
new synth  (KSYN3A) in the existing K3? I am looking for real-world 75 meter
LSB experience. Wife says go for the K3S if I want to, but I think it is
overkill for what I do. Yankee cheap I guess.


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Re: [Elecraft] K3: Any gain with a new synth?

[Chortek Bob via Elecraft]

Bill,
I upgraded the synth and have not noticed any difference whatsoever.  That is 
not to say there is none, only that I could not tell any difference since I 
could not do any A/B comparisons. I am very skeptical of those who claim to 
have noticed a difference without having done an actual A/B comparisons.  Far 
too many factors at play.
The K3 is a truly exceptional performer.  For your uses, you would not notice 
any difference either, IMHO.
73,
Bob/AA6VB



On 9/5/2015 6:03 AM, Bill wrote:
> My K3 is from early 2012 - ser: 62xx. I don't contest or DX - just rag chew 
> on 
> 160/75/40 - makes a super 500 Watt station. Rarely do I touch any controls 
> other than the VFO or band switch. My QTH is very low noise - typical local 
> daytime noise level barely registers on the P3 (think S-0). Yeah, I know I, I 
> could be using something that cost far less. I enjoy the Rolls Royce!
>
> Now that there are a fair number of K3S rigs and modified K3 rigs in  the 
> field - there should be something for me to learn from the users.
>
> Considering my use of the K3 and my QTH - what would I gain by installing the 
> new synth  (KSYN3A) in the existing K3? I am looking for real-world 75 meter 
> LSB experience. Wife says go for the K3S if I want to, but I think it is 
> overkill for what I do. Yankee cheap I guess.

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Re: [Elecraft] Aviation Headset and the KX3

[Wes (N7WS)]

I have a David Clark headset that I used for years on my TS-870.  When I got my 
K3 I looked for something else, found the Yamaha CM500 and never looked back. 
(If you check the archives you should note that I brought the Yamaha to the 
attention of the reflector.)


Wes  N7WS

On 9/4/2015 8:55 PM, George Cortez via Elecraft wrote:

Hi GangI love using a Heil headset with the KX3 but wanted to try something 
with a little more build quality.I have my old Bose X Aviation headset from my 
flying days and set them up for the General Aviation plugs. They are really 
comfortable well made and have active noise canceling built in. I have used 
computer headsets with the K3 and the KX3 in the past and they have worked 
fine.I tried this adapter from 
sportys.comhttps://www.sportys.com/pilotshop/general-aviation-twin-plugs-to-pc-headset-adapter.html?___SID=U
It works fine with the KX3 and I get good audio reports. Just remember to 
unplug it after use as the plugs are the power switch for the adapter. Its a 
lot of cable but the adapter is solidly built and looks like it would last a 
good long time. You need to turn on the bias in the KX3 for any pc headset to 
work. Im sure David Clark GA headsets would work as well but I haven't tried 
them yet. Im tired of the old Head clamps anyway.
George NE2I

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Re: [Elecraft] K3: Any gain with a new synth?

[Wes (N7WS)]

Why fight with success?  IMHO, you'd never know the difference.

Wes N7WS
K3 S/N 2058
K3S S/N 10020

On 9/5/2015 6:03 AM, Bill wrote:
My K3 is from early 2012 - ser: 62xx. I don't contest or DX - just rag chew on 
160/75/40 - makes a super 500 Watt station. Rarely do I touch any controls 
other than the VFO or band switch. My QTH is very low noise - typical local 
daytime noise level barely registers on the P3 (think S-0). Yeah, I know I, I 
could be using something that cost far less. I enjoy the Rolls Royce!


Now that there are a fair number of K3S rigs and modified K3 rigs in  the 
field - there should be something for me to learn from the users.


Considering my use of the K3 and my QTH - what would I gain by installing the 
new synth  (KSYN3A) in the existing K3? I am looking for real-world 75 meter 
LSB experience. Wife says go for the K3S if I want to, but I think it is 
overkill for what I do. Yankee cheap I guess.


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[Elecraft] K3: Any gain with a new synth?

[Bill]

My K3 is from early 2012 - ser: 62xx. I don't contest or DX - just rag 
chew on 160/75/40 - makes a super 500 Watt station. Rarely do I touch 
any controls other than the VFO or band switch. My QTH is very low noise 
- typical local daytime noise level barely registers on the P3 (think 
S-0). Yeah, I know I, I could be using something that cost far less. I 
enjoy the Rolls Royce!


Now that there are a fair number of K3S rigs and modified K3 rigs in  
the field - there should be something for me to learn from the users.


Considering my use of the K3 and my QTH - what would I gain by 
installing the new synth  (KSYN3A) in the existing K3? I am looking for 
real-world 75 meter LSB experience. Wife says go for the K3S if I want 
to, but I think it is overkill for what I do. Yankee cheap I guess.


Gotta say, however, the K-Line is s easy to use and is - without a 
doubt - the best rig I have used in 55 years on the air.

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Re: [Elecraft] K3 Microphone Connection

[Joe Subich, W4TV]

I installed a DVK this morning and now the microphone connector in
the front of my K3 does not work. Per Elecraft it has something to
do with the DSP Board.


You prbably reinstalled the DSP board incorrectly. If installing a DVK
in the K3/K3S disabled the front panel microphone jack there would have
been much howling and gnashing of teeth on this list for years.


Of course if I connect the microphone to the rear jack it bypasses
the DSP board.


Not true.  Both mic sources are processed by the same DSP circuits.
The rear mic jack audio is routed from the KIO3 (P76/J76) to the
AF DSP (P50/J50).  The front mic is routed from the mic jack to the
AF DSP via P32/J32.  On the DSP board, audio from each microphone
passes through its own buffer/preamp and the desired mic elected
in U4.

If the front mic does not work after installing the DVK, and resetting
the mic selection (and bias) does not fix the issue, the most likely
cause is improper (re)installation of the DSP board - either bent or 
misaligned pins on P50/J50.


73,

  ... Joe, W4TV


On 9/4/2015 11:30 PM, pastor...@verizon.net wrote:

Good Evening, I have a Heil HM-12 and what like to connect the
microphone to the K3 Microphone connection in the rear of the radio.
It would be a XLR 4 to a 1/8" mini plug. I don't know if Heil even
makes such a cable.  From what I hear most headsets that heil
manufactures has a 1/8" mini plug at the end of the cable.  I
installed a DVK this morning and now the microphone connector in the
front of my K3 does not work. Per Elecraft it has something to do
with the DSP Board. Of course if I connect the microphone to the rear
jack it bypasses the DSP board. Any suggestions, would much
appreciated. Mark Griffin, KB3Z
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Re: [Elecraft] K3 Microphone Connection

[Ken]

I'm with Jim, I have a Koss SB/45 that plugs directly into the rear of 
the K3.  I get great audio reports and it's only $25 on Amazon.


Ken WA8JXM

On 9/5/15 2:00 AM, Jim Brown wrote:
Can't help you with that part of it. I use Yamaha CM500, which plugs 
into the rear panel connecters. Far superior and MUCH cheaper. 


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[Elecraft] [K1] X-Lock & K6XX mounting?

[Douglas Hagerman]

Has anyone come up with a good mounting technique for the X-Lock and the K6XX 
tuning indicator in the K1?

Doug, W0UHU. 


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