Re: [Elecraft] About the Tesla question

[Amateur Radio Operator N5GE]

It's just my opinion.  I could be wrong, but wouldn't it be better to
discus the Tesla automobile on the forum below?

Or does the Tesla automobile have built-in Elecraft  products?

www.teslamotors.com/forums/discussions/general



Tue, 6 Oct 2015

 21:10:17 -0400, you wrote:

>I have to say I felt thoroughly disgusted whilst reading the digest tonight.  
>Someone posted a completely reasonable question about installing a VHF radio 
>in a Tesla car.  Instead of garnering technical answers and discussions, all 
>he got were diatribes about the pros and cons of electric vehicles in general 
>and different vehicles in particular, plus a bunch of inane gratuitous 
>political comments.  Finally one kindly ham posted a link to useful 
>discussions that actually addressed the the poster’s question.
>
>The rest of you should be ashamed.  That includes you, Wayne.
>
>73
>
>Ray
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[Elecraft] A Piece of History for Free (Heathit HW-9 and PS) and an Elecraft Noise Generator

[Howard Ashcraft]

I have a Heathkit HW-9 CW Transceiver and power supply.  It hasn’t been powered 
on for a long time (I was given it and never fired it up) so I know very little 
about how well it operates.  But I will give it to someone who will provide it 
a good home.  I would prefer that it be picked up in Alameda, but will mail it 
if necessary.


I also have an Elecraft Noise generator that I will mail for shipping costs.  
Very small, should be minor.
Regards


Howard Ashcraft
W1WF





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Re: [Elecraft] OT: VHF radio in Tesla Model S

[Lee Ormiston]

Drifting back to the technicalities of flowing electrons:

Nine electric cars operated on the streets of Paris, France between 1835
and 1839.  The biggest problem with them was the inefficiency of the
electric batteries - likely a variation of Volta cells.  The biggest
problem with current electric vehicles (cars, golf carts, etc.) is?

Common batteries of today have:   Cell Voltage Specific Energy of MJ/kg
Ni Cd1.2
0.14
Lead - Acid2.1
  0.14
NiMH1.2
  0.36
Li Ion3.6
0.46

Interesting things can be accomplished by arranging cells either in series,
parallel, or combination.

To use these cells to perform work we need to remember Amps * Volts = Watts
for Simon Watt of steam engine fame.  We also need to remember Entropy
Theory - energy goes from highly organized state to disorganized state.  A
lump of coal is relatively organized state and carbon dioxide gas is
relatively disorganized state after combustion of coal.

We can in a small, localized area (neighborhood) concentrate energy, for
example re-charging a battery; by increasing the entropy, disorganization
of the energy in the universe by generating electricity - nuclear, coal
fired, natural gas fired, solar, wind powered steam generator powered
electric plant.  In all of these we have mostly waste heat, line losses,
circuit losses, etc. to charge/recharge batteries, followed by waste heat,
line losses, etc. to put the stored energy to work.  After which we repeat
the process to recharge the batteries.

Am I an advocate of going back to hunter/gatherer life style?  No
Am I saving up for a KX3 with match box and battery pack?  Yes

Any unglazed eyes left?

73 Lee N0RRL

On Tue, Oct 6, 2015 at 10:13 PM, Scott Manthe 
wrote:

> This is quickly becoming unbearable. If you guys want to have a blue state
> vs. red state debate, do it somewhere else. Taxpayer pay for lots of things
> that not everyone is happy about, so it's probably best if this thread is
> dialed back now.
>
> Scott N9AA
>
>
>
> On 10/6/15 11:02 PM, Wes (N7WS) wrote:
>
>> Be sure and pen a little thank you note to the taxpayers that help you
>> out with your "free" fuel :-)
>>
>>
>> http://www.latimes.com/business/la-fi-hy-musk-subsidies-20150531-story.html#page=1
>>
>> On 10/6/2015 7:26 PM, Barry wrote:
>>
>>>
>>> Wes - If I wanted to brag, I would have driven it to Dayton, then told
>>> everyone how I drove 1500 miles and "fuel" was free  :-)
>>>
>>>
>>>
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Re: [Elecraft] PC<>P3

[Don Wilhelm]

That will work *if* (and only if) the RS-232 drivers in the control box 
for the UB are capable of being disconnected from their normal RS-232 lines.
That is how the SteppIR control box can work in that configuration - it 
only listens to the RS-232 traffic, it does not send any traffic over 
the RS-232 connection.


73,
Don W3FPR

On 10/6/2015 5:18 AM, Salvatore Irato wrote:

Hi all.
On behalf of a good friend I would ask if there is anyone out there is
using or having experience using a configuration like this:
PC<>P3<>K3>UB cntrl.
Starting from a PC, connecting a P3 and then a K3, all via RS232, then
via the same RS232 having chained a Ultrabeam (UB) dynamic antenna
controller.



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Re: [Elecraft] OT: VHF radio in Tesla Model S

[Wes (N7WS)]

Be sure and pen a little thank you note to the taxpayers that help you out with 
your "free" fuel :-)


http://www.latimes.com/business/la-fi-hy-musk-subsidies-20150531-story.html#page=1

On 10/6/2015 7:26 PM, Barry wrote:


Wes - If I wanted to brag, I would have driven it to Dayton, then told
everyone how I drove 1500 miles and "fuel" was free  :-)




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Re: [Elecraft] OT: VHF radio in Tesla Model S

[Scott Manthe]

This is quickly becoming unbearable. If you guys want to have a blue 
state vs. red state debate, do it somewhere else. Taxpayer pay for lots 
of things that not everyone is happy about, so it's probably best if 
this thread is dialed back now.


Scott N9AA


On 10/6/15 11:02 PM, Wes (N7WS) wrote:
Be sure and pen a little thank you note to the taxpayers that help you 
out with your "free" fuel :-)


http://www.latimes.com/business/la-fi-hy-musk-subsidies-20150531-story.html#page=1 



On 10/6/2015 7:26 PM, Barry wrote:


Wes - If I wanted to brag, I would have driven it to Dayton, then told
everyone how I drove 1500 miles and "fuel" was free  :-)




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Re: [Elecraft] TX3X K3/KPA500 DXpedition to Chesterfield Islands on the air

[Wes (N7WS)]

Rolling along?  Twelve ops, seven complete 500W stations and ton of antennas and 
21K Q's in 6 days.


E6GG with seven ops and four radios made ~ 49k Q's in 12 days.

Just sayin'



On 10/6/2015 10:22 AM, Eric Swartz - WA6HHQ, Elecraft wrote:

TX3X on the the Chesterfield Islands is rolling along with their K3s and 
KPA500s.

See:  www.tx3x.com
and
http://www.dxsummit.fi/#/?dx_calls=TX3X

73,

Eric
/elecraft.com/


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Re: [Elecraft] TX3X K3/KPA500 DXpedition to Chesterfield Islands on the air

[Wayne Burdick]

Maybe the TX3X team actually has a life? (Snorkeling, beer, group sing-a-longs, 
sleeping, leisurely brunch, more beer)

Wayne


On Oct 6, 2015, at 11:08 AM, "Wes (N7WS)"  wrote:

> Rolling along?  Twelve ops, seven complete 500W stations and ton of antennas 
> and 21K Q's in 6 days.
> 
> E6GG with seven ops and four radios made ~ 49k Q's in 12 days.
> 
> Just sayin'
> 
> 
> 
> On 10/6/2015 10:22 AM, Eric Swartz - WA6HHQ, Elecraft wrote:
>> TX3X on the the Chesterfield Islands is rolling along with their K3s and 
>> KPA500s.
>> 
>> See:  www.tx3x.com
>> and
>> http://www.dxsummit.fi/#/?dx_calls=TX3X
>> 
>> 73,
>> 
>> Eric
>> /elecraft.com/

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Re: [Elecraft] OT: VHF radio in Tesla Model S

[mfsj]

But only the rich can afford to buy or get rebates on cars like those.
Fred N0AZZ 


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Original message From: Wayne Burdick  Date: 
10/06/2015  1:00 PM  (GMT-06:00) To: mfsj  Cc: Barry 
, elecraft@mailman.qth.net Subject: Re: [Elecraft] OT: VHF 
radio in Tesla Model S 
IMHO the current Tesla is a transitional vehicle on the way to inexpensive cars 
powered by graphene ultra capacitors instead of Li-ion batteries. POTUS see the 
future and is moving things along in that direction :)

Wayne


On Oct 6, 2015, at 10:56 AM, mfsj  wrote:

> But the  POTUS gives rebates to the buyers and backing to the CO.
> 
> Fred  N0AZZ 




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Re: [Elecraft] OT: VHF radio in Tesla Model S

[David Gilbert]

Sorry ... my bad.  It did sound kind of over-the-top so I should have 
gotten a clue.  My mistake.


Dave   AB7E



On 10/6/2015 11:15 AM, Wayne Burdick wrote:

Dave,

It was entirely tongue-in-cheek. See my followup posting. I'm a huge supporter 
of E-cars in general. I'm just jealous.

Wayne ("off-topic"), N6KR


On Oct 6, 2015, at 11:10 AM, David Gilbert  wrote:


That seems like a pretty mean-spirited snipe at a company that has arguably 
done more to bring electric vehicles into the mainstream than any other.  Other 
companies may have higher volume and lower cost models out there, but Tesla is 
the first one with the conviction to prove it can be successful as a standalone 
business instead of just a side offering to satisfy EPA average mileage 
requirements.  Certainly Tesla has started at the top end of the food chain to 
do so, but their focus is headed toward the larger market ... demonstrating 
along the way that electric vehicles don't need to be the underpowered laughing 
stocks they were typically portrayed as.

Dave   AB7E



On 10/6/2015 10:41 AM, Wayne Burdick wrote:

As for any engineer rumored to own a Tesla: Who am I to comment on whether they 
should raid their retirement nest-eggs to buy overpriced, overpowered, 
conspicuously consumptive, middle-age-postponing sports sedans? (Isn't the 'T' 
for Testosterone, something always in short supply? Might a Tesla be partially 
covered by the prescription drug clause in one's medical insurance?)

Finally, regarding the mobile radio: Go for it. Driving a Tesla, you may very 
well find yourself outside the cellphone network and many miles from that 
elusive next charging station.

Wayne
N6KR






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[Elecraft] PX3 Span will only go up to 100Khz

[Roger Marrotte]

I received my new PX3 yesterday.  It has firmware v1.25.  It's connected to
my KX3.  It seems to be working as advertised and seems to be as good as my
P3/K3 combo. My one question is: Why does the span only go up to 100. The
manual says it should go up to 200.  I've tried turning STEP SPAN on and
off.   I looked at the manual and searched the web and past emails and found
no answer.  So, am I doing something wrong?

 

Roger, W1EM 

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Re: [Elecraft] OT: VHF radio in Tesla Model S

[Mel Farrer]

Dream on Wayne, 

Here is the past running like hell to catch up.  Like a tandem bike on steroids.



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Mel, K6KBE
  From: Wayne Burdick 
 To: David Gilbert  
Cc: elecraft@mailman.qth.net 
 Sent: Tuesday, October 6, 2015 11:15 AM
 Subject: Re: [Elecraft] OT: VHF radio in Tesla Model S
   
Dave,

It was entirely tongue-in-cheek. See my followup posting. I'm a huge supporter 
of E-cars in general. I'm just jealous.

Wayne ("off-topic"), N6KR




On Oct 6, 2015, at 11:10 AM, David Gilbert  wrote:

> 
> That seems like a pretty mean-spirited snipe at a company that has arguably 
> done more to bring electric vehicles into the mainstream than any other.  
> Other companies may have higher volume and lower cost models out there, but 
> Tesla is the first one with the conviction to prove it can be successful as a 
> standalone business instead of just a side offering to satisfy EPA average 
> mileage requirements.  Certainly Tesla has started at the top end of the food 
> chain to do so, but their focus is headed toward the larger market ... 
> demonstrating along the way that electric vehicles don't need to be the 
> underpowered laughing stocks they were typically portrayed as.
> 
> Dave  AB7E
> 
> 
> 
> On 10/6/2015 10:41 AM, Wayne Burdick wrote:
>> 
>> As for any engineer rumored to own a Tesla: Who am I to comment on whether 
>> they should raid their retirement nest-eggs to buy overpriced, overpowered, 
>> conspicuously consumptive, middle-age-postponing sports sedans? (Isn't the 
>> 'T' for Testosterone, something always in short supply? Might a Tesla be 
>> partially covered by the prescription drug clause in one's medical 
>> insurance?)
>> 
>> Finally, regarding the mobile radio: Go for it. Driving a Tesla, you may 
>> very well find yourself outside the cellphone network and many miles from 
>> that elusive next charging station.
>> 
>> Wayne
>> N6KR
>> 


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Re: [Elecraft] OT: VHF radio in Tesla Model S

[Wayne Burdick]

Dave,

It was entirely tongue-in-cheek. See my followup posting. I'm a huge supporter 
of E-cars in general. I'm just jealous.

Wayne ("off-topic"), N6KR


On Oct 6, 2015, at 11:10 AM, David Gilbert  wrote:

> 
> That seems like a pretty mean-spirited snipe at a company that has arguably 
> done more to bring electric vehicles into the mainstream than any other.  
> Other companies may have higher volume and lower cost models out there, but 
> Tesla is the first one with the conviction to prove it can be successful as a 
> standalone business instead of just a side offering to satisfy EPA average 
> mileage requirements.  Certainly Tesla has started at the top end of the food 
> chain to do so, but their focus is headed toward the larger market ... 
> demonstrating along the way that electric vehicles don't need to be the 
> underpowered laughing stocks they were typically portrayed as.
> 
> Dave   AB7E
> 
> 
> 
> On 10/6/2015 10:41 AM, Wayne Burdick wrote:
>> 
>> As for any engineer rumored to own a Tesla: Who am I to comment on whether 
>> they should raid their retirement nest-eggs to buy overpriced, overpowered, 
>> conspicuously consumptive, middle-age-postponing sports sedans? (Isn't the 
>> 'T' for Testosterone, something always in short supply? Might a Tesla be 
>> partially covered by the prescription drug clause in one's medical 
>> insurance?)
>> 
>> Finally, regarding the mobile radio: Go for it. Driving a Tesla, you may 
>> very well find yourself outside the cellphone network and many miles from 
>> that elusive next charging station.
>> 
>> Wayne
>> N6KR
>> 


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Re: [Elecraft] OT: VHF radio in Tesla Model S

[Joe Subich, W4TV]

From a practical perspective, the "battery with onboard generator" of 
the Chevrolet Volt is far more practical (and has been around for a

very long time as the diesel-electric locomotive).  It a real shame
that the Volt is out of the price range of ordinary consumers as charge
at home with gasoline (or diesel) for long distance range extension is
clearly more practical than the limited battery only range of either
Tesla or the Nissan Leaf.

I only wish that my father had the ability to follow up on his concept
for the diesel-electric automobile 50 years ago.  Unfortunately neither
energy storage (battery technology) nor environmental concerns where as
well developed then as they are today.

73,

  ... Joe, W4TV


On 10/6/2015 2:15 PM, Wayne Burdick wrote:

Dave,

It was entirely tongue-in-cheek. See my followup posting. I'm a huge supporter 
of E-cars in general. I'm just jealous.

Wayne ("off-topic"), N6KR


On Oct 6, 2015, at 11:10 AM, David Gilbert  wrote:



That seems like a pretty mean-spirited snipe at a company that has arguably 
done more to bring electric vehicles into the mainstream than any other.  Other 
companies may have higher volume and lower cost models out there, but Tesla is 
the first one with the conviction to prove it can be successful as a standalone 
business instead of just a side offering to satisfy EPA average mileage 
requirements.  Certainly Tesla has started at the top end of the food chain to 
do so, but their focus is headed toward the larger market ... demonstrating 
along the way that electric vehicles don't need to be the underpowered laughing 
stocks they were typically portrayed as.

Dave   AB7E



On 10/6/2015 10:41 AM, Wayne Burdick wrote:


As for any engineer rumored to own a Tesla: Who am I to comment on whether they 
should raid their retirement nest-eggs to buy overpriced, overpowered, 
conspicuously consumptive, middle-age-postponing sports sedans? (Isn't the 'T' 
for Testosterone, something always in short supply? Might a Tesla be partially 
covered by the prescription drug clause in one's medical insurance?)

Finally, regarding the mobile radio: Go for it. Driving a Tesla, you may very 
well find yourself outside the cellphone network and many miles from that 
elusive next charging station.

Wayne
N6KR




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Re: [Elecraft] OT: VHF radio in Tesla Model S

[mfsj]

But the  POTUS gives rebates to the buyers and backing to the CO.
Fred  N0AZZ 


Sent via the Samsung Galaxy S6 edge+, an AT 4G LTE smartphone 
Original message From: Wayne Burdick  Date: 
10/06/2015  12:41 PM  (GMT-06:00) To: Barry  Cc: 
elecraft@mailman.qth.net Subject: Re: [Elecraft] OT: VHF radio in Tesla Model S 
Neither Elecraft co-owner has a Tesla, nor are we likely to get them anytime 
soon, speaking strictly for both of us. I drive a very pragmatic Honda CRV and 
am coveting a Prius V for its better gas mileage. I prefer not to drive at all, 
actually. I have a hybrid mountain bike that runs on the equivalent of approx. 
0.5 McChicken sandwiches per hour.

As for any engineer rumored to own a Tesla: Who am I to comment on whether they 
should raid their retirement nest-eggs to buy overpriced, overpowered, 
conspicuously consumptive, middle-age-postponing sports sedans? (Isn't the 'T' 
for Testosterone, something always in short supply? Might a Tesla be partially 
covered by the prescription drug clause in one's medical insurance?)

Finally, regarding the mobile radio: Go for it. Driving a Tesla, you may very 
well find yourself outside the cellphone network and many miles from that 
elusive next charging station.

Wayne
N6KR


On Oct 6, 2015, at 9:38 AM, Barry  wrote:

> I'm aware of a few Elecraft engineers and owners having a Tesla Model S,
> hence the post.  
> 
> When I first got my Model S, I had no plans to put a 2m radio in it.  Now
> I'm having second thoughts.  Wonder if any Model S owners have installed a
> radio?  
> 
> Feel free to contact me off list at my callsign at arrl.net, if you prefer.
> 
> Tnx,
> Barry W2UP


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Re: [Elecraft] OT: VHF radio in Tesla Model S

[Wayne Burdick]

IMHO the current Tesla is a transitional vehicle on the way to inexpensive cars 
powered by graphene ultra capacitors instead of Li-ion batteries. POTUS see the 
future and is moving things along in that direction :)

Wayne


On Oct 6, 2015, at 10:56 AM, mfsj  wrote:

> But the  POTUS gives rebates to the buyers and backing to the CO.
> 
> Fred  N0AZZ 



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Re: [Elecraft] OT: VHF radio in Tesla Model S

[jim]

And the other side:

Our columnist Bret Stephens writes that at the President's Friday press
conference, Mr. Obama described alternatives to his Syria policy as
"mumbo-jumbo," "half-baked ideas," and "as-if" solutions. "So it is with
this president. It's not enough for him to stake and defend his positions.
He wants you to know that he thinks deeper, sees further, knows better,
operates from a purer motive. His preferred method for dealing with
disagreement is denigration,"

Jim
W6AIM



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From: elecraft-boun...@mailman.qth.net
[mailto:elecraft-boun...@mailman.qth.net] On Behalf Of Wayne Burdick
Sent: Tuesday, October 6, 2015 11:01 AM
To: mfsj
Cc: Barry; elecraft@mailman.qth.net
Subject: Re: [Elecraft] OT: VHF radio in Tesla Model S

IMHO the current Tesla is a transitional vehicle on the way to inexpensive
cars powered by graphene ultra capacitors instead of Li-ion batteries. POTUS
see the future and is moving things along in that direction :)

Wayne


On Oct 6, 2015, at 10:56 AM, mfsj  wrote:

> But the  POTUS gives rebates to the buyers and backing to the CO.
> 
> Fred  N0AZZ 



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Re: [Elecraft] TX3X K3/KPA500 DXpedition to Chesterfield Islands on the air

[Ken]

On 10/6/15 2:13 PM, Wayne Burdick wrote:

Maybe the TX3X team actually has a life? (Snorkeling, beer, group sing-a-longs, 
sleeping, leisurely brunch, more beer)


They can do all of that at home!   LOL

On the serious side, they and T2GC were both on 40 CW the other morning 
about 30 kHz apart, both working "UP".   The synchronized responses on 
the panadapter took up at least 60 kHz of the band!  I think it was 
worse than K1N Navassa!


Ken WA8JXM
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Re: [Elecraft] OT: VHF radio in Tesla Model S

[Eric Swartz - WA6HHQ, Elecraft]

Folks - Thread closed due to the politically oriented posting below. This is too 
far OT.

As per thread guidelines, please make posts with political comments elsewhere.

73,

Eric
/elecraft.com/

On 10/6/2015 11:17 AM, jim wrote:

And the other side:

Our columnist Bret Stephens writes that at the President's Friday press
conference, Mr. Obama described alternatives to his Syria policy as..



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Re: [Elecraft] TX3X K3/KPA500 DXpedition to Chesterfield Islands on the air

[Jim Brown]

K6MM has been in contact with several of the ops at TX3X. They have been 
experiencing pretty awful WX, lots of rain, very high winds. Too much 
wind to get the 80M and 160M antennas up -- although they have been QRV 
on 80 in the last 12 hours.


I worked them yesterday with 5W on 10M SSB.

Here's what he posted to the NCDXC reflector yesterday.

73, Jim K9YC

=   =   =   =   =

Thus far I have been able to work these "local" TX3X operators on SSB:

40MTom, ND2T
20MRoss, K6GFJ
17MSteve, W1SRD
15MKevin, K6TD

I volunteered to keep in touch with their families while they're on the 
DXpedition.


My general sense from these "quick chats", is that they are having a 
miserable time coping with the high winds, rain, sleeping conditions, 
and Mother Nature in general on Chesterfield.  Some of this is 
documented on the internet, the latest yesterday:


http://www.dx-world.net/tx3x-chesterfield-island-dxpedition-2015/

Unfortunately their website and log search function has been down for 
several hours now: http://TX3X.com

Hopefully this is temporary.

The biggest problem has been installing their antennas, especially for 
80M and 160M because of the high winds.  Thus far, they have not been 
able to activate those bands.  The team is still in good spirits, 
however, and determined to overcome these visits from Murphy.  They'll 
be there another week.  Let's wish them good luck.  Fingers crossed.


My advice:  If you've already worked them, try to resist the temptation 
to rack up a lot of band-modes until the group has had a chance to put 
as many ATNO QSOs in the log as possible this week.  And keep watching 
those DX cluster spots.


73,
John, K6MM



On Tue,10/6/2015 11:08 AM, Wes (N7WS) wrote:
Rolling along?  Twelve ops, seven complete 500W stations and ton of 
antennas and 21K Q's in 6 days.


E6GG with seven ops and four radios made ~ 49k Q's in 12 days.

Just sayin'


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Re: [Elecraft] PX3 Span will only go up to 100Khz

[Cady, Fred]

Hi Roger,
At some point, I don't remember when, in the development of the Fixed-Spectrum 
- Tuned VFO display mode they had to reduce the maximum span from 200 to 100 
kHz.
Cheers,
Fred KE7x
Author of:
"The Elecraft K3: Design, Configuration and Operation 2nd ed"
"The Portable Elecraft KX3 – Going for the Summit with the KX3 and KX3-2M/4M"
“The Elecraft KX-Line – The Complete Station”
“The Elecraft KPA500 and KAT500 – the K-Line Dream Station”
Printed, coil bound copies of these are all available at www.elecraft.com
KPA500 and KAT500 Quick Set Up Guide
http://www.ke7x.com/home/k-line-introduction-and-set-up-guide

KAT500 and KXPA500 Tuner Operation
http://www.ke7x.com/home/kat500-and-kxpa100-tuners

“The Elecraft KXPA100, PX3 and 2M/4M Transverters – Assembling the KX3-Line 
Station” printed copy available at www.lulu.com and pdf from www.ke7x.com.

“The Elecraft K3S and P3 – Getting the Most out from Your High Performance 
Station”  coming very soon.
Plus a book dedicated to the K3S upgrades for the K3 and a 3rd Edition of the 
K3 book are works in progress.



From: elecraft-boun...@mailman.qth.net  on 
behalf of Roger Marrotte 
Sent: Tuesday, October 6, 2015 1:01 PM
To: Elecraft@mailman.qth.net
Subject: [Elecraft] PX3 Span will only go up to 100Khz

I received my new PX3 yesterday.  It has firmware v1.25.  It's connected to
my KX3.  It seems to be working as advertised and seems to be as good as my
P3/K3 combo. My one question is: Why does the span only go up to 100. The
manual says it should go up to 200.  I've tried turning STEP SPAN on and
off.   I looked at the manual and searched the web and past emails and found
no answer.  So, am I doing something wrong?



Roger, W1EM

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Re: [Elecraft] OT: VHF radio in Tesla Model S

[Al Gulseth]

First, I've been intrigued by electric powered vehicles for a long time. I 
came very close to buying a Jet Electrica (?) Ford Escort conversion back in 
the 1980s and have also followed the "homebrew" versions in Home Power mag.

However, I'm not a big fan of using tax dollars to promote a particular 
technology. A better way IMHO would be to get private venture capital behind 
some of the engineering students who've been involved in Sunrayce (AKA 
American Solar Challenge) and just get out of the way to see what they can 
come up with. (Like Wayne and Eric back in the NorCal days?)

Also, while Tesla apparently has licked some of the issues, other 
manufacturers have not. I've only personally seen a few of a well-known US 
auto manufacturer's recent attempt at an EV. Both of the following were on 
the interstate: in one case where the terrain is fairly level (at least for 
western Arkansas) the vehicle was in the right lane running somewhat below 
the speed limit. In the other case, the vehicle was on the long grade going 
up the hill to the tunnel (yes, we have a tunnel through the top of a 
mountain in NW Arkansas!) It was in the right hand lane with its flashers on 
and was running slower than a lot of the 18 wheelers on that stretch. The 
expression on the driver's face was very revealing: I'll just say that he 
didn't appear to be a... ummm... "happy camper"

Just my $0.02 worth.

73, Al

On Tue October 6 2015 1:17:30 pm jim wrote:
> And the other side:
>
> Our columnist Bret Stephens writes that at the President's Friday press
> conference, Mr. Obama described alternatives to his Syria policy as
> "mumbo-jumbo," "half-baked ideas," and "as-if" solutions. "So it is with
> this president. It's not enough for him to stake and defend his positions.
> He wants you to know that he thinks deeper, sees further, knows better,
> operates from a purer motive. His preferred method for dealing with
> disagreement is denigration,"
>
> Jim
> W6AIM
>
>
>
> -Original Message-
> From: elecraft-boun...@mailman.qth.net
> [mailto:elecraft-boun...@mailman.qth.net] On Behalf Of Wayne Burdick
> Sent: Tuesday, October 6, 2015 11:01 AM
> To: mfsj
> Cc: Barry; elecraft@mailman.qth.net
> Subject: Re: [Elecraft] OT: VHF radio in Tesla Model S
>
> IMHO the current Tesla is a transitional vehicle on the way to inexpensive
> cars powered by graphene ultra capacitors instead of Li-ion batteries.
> POTUS see the future and is moving things along in that direction :)
>
> Wayne
>
> On Oct 6, 2015, at 10:56 AM, mfsj  wrote:
> > But the  POTUS gives rebates to the buyers and backing to the CO.
> >
> > Fred  N0AZZ
>
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Re: [Elecraft] PX3 Span will only go up to 100Khz

[Eric Swartz - WA6HHQ, Elecraft]

Its up to 200 kHz in tracking mode and 100 kHz in fixed tune. 

73,

Eric
elecraft.com
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> On Oct 6, 2015, at 12:15 PM, Cady, Fred  wrote:
> 
> Hi Roger,
> At some point, I don't remember when, in the development of the 
> Fixed-Spectrum - Tuned VFO display mode they had to reduce the maximum span 
> from 200 to 100 kHz.
> Cheers,
> Fred KE7x
> Author of:
> "The Elecraft K3: Design, Configuration and Operation 2nd ed"
> "The Portable Elecraft KX3 – Going for the Summit with the KX3 and KX3-2M/4M"
> “The Elecraft KX-Line – The Complete Station”
> “The Elecraft KPA500 and KAT500 – the K-Line Dream Station”
> Printed, coil bound copies of these are all available at www.elecraft.com
> KPA500 and KAT500 Quick Set Up Guide
> http://www.ke7x.com/home/k-line-introduction-and-set-up-guide
> 
> KAT500 and KXPA500 Tuner Operation
> http://www.ke7x.com/home/kat500-and-kxpa100-tuners
> 
> “The Elecraft KXPA100, PX3 and 2M/4M Transverters – Assembling the KX3-Line 
> Station” printed copy available at www.lulu.com and pdf from www.ke7x.com.
> 
> “The Elecraft K3S and P3 – Getting the Most out from Your High Performance 
> Station”  coming very soon.
> Plus a book dedicated to the K3S upgrades for the K3 and a 3rd Edition of the 
> K3 book are works in progress.
> 
> 
> 
> From: elecraft-boun...@mailman.qth.net  on 
> behalf of Roger Marrotte 
> Sent: Tuesday, October 6, 2015 1:01 PM
> To: Elecraft@mailman.qth.net
> Subject: [Elecraft] PX3 Span will only go up to 100Khz
> 
> I received my new PX3 yesterday.  It has firmware v1.25.  It's connected to
> my KX3.  It seems to be working as advertised and seems to be as good as my
> P3/K3 combo. My one question is: Why does the span only go up to 100. The
> manual says it should go up to 200.  I've tried turning STEP SPAN on and
> off.   I looked at the manual and searched the web and past emails and found
> no answer.  So, am I doing something wrong?
> 
> 
> 
> Roger, W1EM
> 
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Re: [Elecraft] OT: VHF radio in Tesla Model S

[riese-k3djc]

my prius c is fine,, thank you

Bob K3DJC


On Tue, 6 Oct 2015 11:15:49 -0700 Wayne Burdick 
writes:
> Dave,
> 
> It was entirely tongue-in-cheek. See my followup posting. I'm a huge 
> supporter of E-cars in general. I'm just jealous.
> 
> Wayne ("off-topic"), N6KR
> 
>

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Re: [Elecraft] OT: VHF radio in Tesla Model S

[mfsj]

Al I agree nothing going to replace my diesel 4x4's in my life time electric 
that will do the work they do. We have 4 4x4's for work and DD trucks and SUV's 
would not exchange any for electric if it was free.
Fred N0AZZ 


Sent via the Samsung Galaxy S6 edge+, an AT 4G LTE smartphone 
Original message From: Al Gulseth  Date: 
10/06/2015  3:12 PM  (GMT-06:00) To: elecraft@mailman.qth.net Subject: Re: 
[Elecraft] OT: VHF radio in Tesla Model S 
First, I've been intrigued by electric powered vehicles for a long time. I 
came very close to buying a Jet Electrica (?) Ford Escort conversion back in 
the 1980s and have also followed the "homebrew" versions in Home Power mag.

However, I'm not a big fan of using tax dollars to promote a particular 
technology. A better way IMHO would be to get private venture capital behind 
some of the engineering students who've been involved in Sunrayce (AKA 
American Solar Challenge) and just get out of the way to see what they can 
come up with. (Like Wayne and Eric back in the NorCal days?)

Also, while Tesla apparently has licked some of the issues, other 
manufacturers have not. I've only personally seen a few of a well-known US 
auto manufacturer's recent attempt at an EV. Both of the following were on 
the interstate: in one case where the terrain is fairly level (at least for 
western Arkansas) the vehicle was in the right lane running somewhat below 
the speed limit. In the other case, the vehicle was on the long grade going 
up the hill to the tunnel (yes, we have a tunnel through the top of a 
mountain in NW Arkansas!) It was in the right hand lane with its flashers on 
and was running slower than a lot of the 18 wheelers on that stretch. The 
expression on the driver's face was very revealing: I'll just say that he 
didn't appear to be a... ummm... "happy camper"

Just my $0.02 worth.

73, Al

On Tue October 6 2015 1:17:30 pm jim wrote:
> And the other side:
>
> Our columnist Bret Stephens writes that at the President's Friday press
> conference, Mr. Obama described alternatives to his Syria policy as
> "mumbo-jumbo," "half-baked ideas," and "as-if" solutions. "So it is with
> this president. It's not enough for him to stake and defend his positions.
> He wants you to know that he thinks deeper, sees further, knows better,
> operates from a purer motive. His preferred method for dealing with
> disagreement is denigration,"
>
> Jim
> W6AIM
>
>
>
> -Original Message-
> From: elecraft-boun...@mailman.qth.net
> [mailto:elecraft-boun...@mailman.qth.net] On Behalf Of Wayne Burdick
> Sent: Tuesday, October 6, 2015 11:01 AM
> To: mfsj
> Cc: Barry; elecraft@mailman.qth.net
> Subject: Re: [Elecraft] OT: VHF radio in Tesla Model S
>
> IMHO the current Tesla is a transitional vehicle on the way to inexpensive
> cars powered by graphene ultra capacitors instead of Li-ion batteries.
> POTUS see the future and is moving things along in that direction :)
>
> Wayne
>
> On Oct 6, 2015, at 10:56 AM, mfsj  wrote:
> > But the  POTUS gives rebates to the buyers and backing to the CO.
> >
> > Fred  N0AZZ
>
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Re: [Elecraft] OT: VHF radio in Tesla Model S

[Barry]

My apologies for starting this thread.  I had no idea it would take such a
perverse turn from a simple question.

Barry W2UP



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Re: [Elecraft] OT: VHF radio in Tesla Model S

[Walter Underwood]

Attempting to answer the original question, the Model S roof is mostly 
aluminum, so mag mounts don’t work. Some people have used the roof rack for a 
mount. Others use trunk lip mounts.

The cigarette lighter outlet has a 15A fuse, which might not be enough for some 
mobile rigs.

This Google search has discussion on several Tesla forums as the first few hits:

https://www.google.com/webhp?ie=UTF-8#q=tesla%20mobile%20antenna%20installation

wunder
K6WRU
CM87wj
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> On Oct 6, 2015, at 11:15 AM, Wayne Burdick  wrote:
> 
> Dave,
> 
> It was entirely tongue-in-cheek. See my followup posting. I'm a huge 
> supporter of E-cars in general. I'm just jealous.
> 
> Wayne ("off-topic"), N6KR
> 
> 
> On Oct 6, 2015, at 11:10 AM, David Gilbert  wrote:
> 
>> 
>> That seems like a pretty mean-spirited snipe at a company that has arguably 
>> done more to bring electric vehicles into the mainstream than any other.  
>> Other companies may have higher volume and lower cost models out there, but 
>> Tesla is the first one with the conviction to prove it can be successful as 
>> a standalone business instead of just a side offering to satisfy EPA average 
>> mileage requirements.  Certainly Tesla has started at the top end of the 
>> food chain to do so, but their focus is headed toward the larger market ... 
>> demonstrating along the way that electric vehicles don't need to be the 
>> underpowered laughing stocks they were typically portrayed as.
>> 
>> Dave   AB7E
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> On 10/6/2015 10:41 AM, Wayne Burdick wrote:
>>> 
>>> As for any engineer rumored to own a Tesla: Who am I to comment on whether 
>>> they should raid their retirement nest-eggs to buy overpriced, overpowered, 
>>> conspicuously consumptive, middle-age-postponing sports sedans? (Isn't the 
>>> 'T' for Testosterone, something always in short supply? Might a Tesla be 
>>> partially covered by the prescription drug clause in one's medical 
>>> insurance?)
>>> 
>>> Finally, regarding the mobile radio: Go for it. Driving a Tesla, you may 
>>> very well find yourself outside the cellphone network and many miles from 
>>> that elusive next charging station.
>>> 
>>> Wayne
>>> N6KR
>>> 
> 
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Re: [Elecraft] PX3 Span will only go up to 100Khz

[Mark, KE6BB]

Roger, 
Fred is correct.  In fixed-tune mode, the display is limited to +/-50 khz, 
which is a 100 kHz span. See the latest PX3 Manual (Rev. A5 dated May 22, 
2015), page 21, left column, second paragraph from the bottom.  
I wasn't aware of this until I read your post and checked out the latest 
manual.  It won't change my decision to buy one, though.
Mark,KE6BB 
 
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Re: [Elecraft] OT: VHF radio in Tesla Model S

[bsusb]

Tesla?  No,No,No!!  Its got to be a Charger like the Dukes used to drive.  V-8 
hemi.  If it gets more than 10 miles to the gallon, it is underpowered.  If you 
don't put more than 5000 miles a year on the thing, you can easily afford the 
fuel cost.

You like electrics?  Go to any golf course.  They already have lots of neat 
electric carts.


On Tue, 6 Oct 2015 10:41:48 -0700
Wayne Burdick  wrote:

> Neither Elecraft co-owner has a Tesla, nor are we likely to get them anytime 
> soon, speaking strictly for both of us. I drive a very pragmatic Honda CRV 
> and am coveting a Prius V for its better gas mileage. I prefer not to drive 
> at all, actually. I have a hybrid mountain bike that runs on the equivalent 
> of approx. 0.5 McChicken sandwiches per hour.
> 
> As for any engineer rumored to own a Tesla: Who am I to comment on whether 
> they should raid their retirement nest-eggs to buy overpriced, overpowered, 
> conspicuously consumptive, middle-age-postponing sports sedans? (Isn't the 
> 'T' for Testosterone, something always in short supply? Might a Tesla be 
> partially covered by the prescription drug clause in one's medical insurance?)
> 
> Finally, regarding the mobile radio: Go for it. Driving a Tesla, you may very 
> well find yourself outside the cellphone network and many miles from that 
> elusive next charging station.
> 
> Wayne
> N6KR
> 
> 
> On Oct 6, 2015, at 9:38 AM, Barry  wrote:
> 
> > I'm aware of a few Elecraft engineers and owners having a Tesla Model S,
> > hence the post.  
> > 
> > When I first got my Model S, I had no plans to put a 2m radio in it.  Now
> > I'm having second thoughts.  Wonder if any Model S owners have installed a
> > radio?  
> > 
> > Feel free to contact me off list at my callsign at arrl.net, if you prefer.
> > 
> > Tnx,
> > Barry W2UP
> 
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[Elecraft] 0.5 McChicken sandwiches per hour almost caused KX3 death...

[Ben Hall]

On 10/6/2015 12:41 PM, Wayne Burdick wrote:

mileage. I prefer not to drive at all, actually. I have a hybrid
mountain bike that runs on the equivalent of approx. 0.5 McChicken
sandwiches per hour.


When I read that, I just about spewed coffee all over my keyboard and my 
KX3.  Thankfully, I didn't.  Note to self:  move KX3 out of the coffee 
blast radius.


While I don't ride a mountain bike anymore, I do try to walk regularly. 
 I'd give my fuel efficiency rating in Oreo cookies per hour, hahahahahaha!


thanks much and 73,
ben, kd5byb






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Re: [Elecraft] OT: VHF radio in Tesla Model S

[Phil Wheeler]

My Prius is great, too :-)

Phil -- Sent from my iPhone 5S

> On Oct 6, 2015, at 13:03,   wrote:
> 
> my prius c is fine,, thank you
> 
> Bob K3DJC
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Re: [Elecraft] OT: VHF radio in Tesla Model S

[Rick Tavan N6XI]

I have 2M and 1.2GHz radios in my Model S. They work fine with no
detectable RFI in either direction. I have a no-holes installation, which
is sub-optimal but I couldn't bear the thought of drilling into this
expensive but totally awesome vehicle.

73,

/Rick N6XI

On Tue, Oct 6, 2015 at 1:57 PM, Barry  wrote:

> My apologies for starting this thread.  I had no idea it would take such a
> perverse turn from a simple question.
>
> Barry W2UP
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Re: [Elecraft] OT: VHF radio in Tesla Model S

[David Gilbert]

That seems like a pretty mean-spirited snipe at a company that has 
arguably done more to bring electric vehicles into the mainstream than 
any other.  Other companies may have higher volume and lower cost models 
out there, but Tesla is the first one with the conviction to prove it 
can be successful as a standalone business instead of just a side 
offering to satisfy EPA average mileage requirements.  Certainly Tesla 
has started at the top end of the food chain to do so, but their focus 
is headed toward the larger market ... demonstrating along the way that 
electric vehicles don't need to be the underpowered laughing stocks they 
were typically portrayed as.


Dave   AB7E



On 10/6/2015 10:41 AM, Wayne Burdick wrote:


As for any engineer rumored to own a Tesla: Who am I to comment on whether they 
should raid their retirement nest-eggs to buy overpriced, overpowered, 
conspicuously consumptive, middle-age-postponing sports sedans? (Isn't the 'T' 
for Testosterone, something always in short supply? Might a Tesla be partially 
covered by the prescription drug clause in one's medical insurance?)

Finally, regarding the mobile radio: Go for it. Driving a Tesla, you may very 
well find yourself outside the cellphone network and many miles from that 
elusive next charging station.

Wayne
N6KR




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Re: [Elecraft] OT: VHF radio in Tesla Model S

[Barry]

Wes (N7WS) wrote
> It's okay. We know you just wanted to brag about having a Tesla:-)

Wes - If I wanted to brag, I would have driven it to Dayton, then told
everyone how I drove 1500 miles and "fuel" was free  :-)

Wayne - In re-reading my original post and your response, I think you
misunderstood what I meant by Elecraft owners.  I meant Elecraft RADIO
owners, not company owners.  Sorry for that confusion and my poor wording,
too.

Barry W2UP




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[Elecraft] OT: VHF radio in Tesla Model S

[Johnny Siu]

Hello Gentleman,
Due to time zone, I come into discussion a bit late.  My Model S 70D should 
come in about two weeks.
I do intent to put my KX3 mobile.  Since Model S is like a big computer with 
wheels, I am worried about whether TX from KX3 (or later with KXPA100)will 
cause RFI to the car.  Also antenna installation is another area to be thought 
about.
Any ideas?
73
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 主題︰ Re: [Elecraft] OT: VHF radio in Tesla Model S
   
I have 2M and 1.2GHz radios in my Model S. They work fine with no
detectable RFI in either direction. I have a no-holes installation, which
is sub-optimal but I couldn't bear the thought of drilling into this
expensive but totally awesome vehicle.

73,

/Rick N6XI

On Tue, Oct 6, 2015 at 1:57 PM, Barry  wrote:

> My apologies for starting this thread.  I had no idea it would take such a
> perverse turn from a simple question.
>
> Barry W2UP
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Re: [Elecraft] OT: VHF radio in Tesla Model S

[Gary K9GS]

Hi Rick,

So..did you get the "Ludicrous Speed Option"??



On 10/6/2015 4:30 PM, Rick Tavan N6XI wrote:

I have 2M and 1.2GHz radios in my Model S. They work fine with no
detectable RFI in either direction. I have a no-holes installation, which
is sub-optimal but I couldn't bear the thought of drilling into this
expensive but totally awesome vehicle.

73,

/Rick N6XI

On Tue, Oct 6, 2015 at 1:57 PM, Barry  wrote:


My apologies for starting this thread.  I had no idea it would take such a
perverse turn from a simple question.

Barry W2UP



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[Elecraft] About the Tesla question

[albers]

I have to say I felt thoroughly disgusted whilst reading the digest tonight.  
Someone posted a completely reasonable question about installing a VHF radio in 
a Tesla car.  Instead of garnering technical answers and discussions, all he 
got were diatribes about the pros and cons of electric vehicles in general and 
different vehicles in particular, plus a bunch of inane gratuitous political 
comments.  Finally one kindly ham posted a link to useful discussions that 
actually addressed the the poster’s question.

The rest of you should be ashamed.  That includes you, Wayne.

73

Ray
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[Elecraft] PC<>P3

[Salvatore Irato]

Hi all.
On behalf of a good friend I would ask if there is anyone out there is
using or having experience using a configuration like this:
PC<>P3<>K3>UB cntrl.
Starting from a PC, connecting a P3 and then a K3, all via RS232, then
via the same RS232 having chained a Ultrabeam (UB) dynamic antenna
controller.
I mean a UB as a paralleled target, over TX data for the K3 VFO data,
coming from the K3 both as a result of any manual or logger charnges
of the K3 QRG.

I don't have all this, as I lack the dynamic antenna, but I am pretty
sure that somebody had already solved successfully all that. Thus
having the Ultrabeam controller getting data from the K3. As to follow
with motion, UB, K3 and logger changes to a new band or in band
segment changes. Isn't?

I ask all this in the more general terms, i.e. cables schema,
preferred speeds, reference url's or and so on. Any information could
be valuable from whoever had made this working.

 TU in advance, BTW feel free to drop me a mail out of list, not to
use too much space here.


  73 de iw1ayd Salvo
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[Elecraft] (no subject)

[Tom Fitzgerald]

Fascinating what kind of off topic crap is tolerated on this reflector while 
other posts are simply censored & censored as in never posted. It reminds me a 
bit of when one of the right wing whack-a-doodle AM talk hosts mistakenly 
allows a listener with a brain through the screen and puts them on the 
air...he/she/it will quickly begin talking over the caller and eventually hang 
up on them so as to not risk some sanity getting onto the airwaves that makes 
the host look as stupid as they always sound and frequently look. Interesting. 
:)

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Re: [Elecraft] OT: VHF radio in Tesla Model S

[Wes]

The last, and I do mean last, Chrysler product I owned was a '79 Roadrunner, 
bought new.  What a POS. I don't believe time has improved a thing. 

Now I drive an Aussie car, a Pontiac G8 GT. Wish it had more hp tho, 360 is 
marginal.  But what's this 5000 mile stuff?  I'm putting a new set of Michelin 
Pilot Super Sports on tomorrow. Went through the current set in a year (28,000 
miles.) Gas is cheap ($2.20) life is short. 

Wes. N7WS

ps.  Please keep your Priuses out of the fast lane. Some of us older guys don't 
have time to waste

On Oct 6, 2015, at 3:44 PM, bsusb  wrote:

> Tesla?  No,No,No!!  Its got to be a Charger like the Dukes used to drive.  
> V-8 hemi.  If it gets more than 10 miles to the gallon, it is underpowered.  
> If you don't put more than 5000 miles a year on the thing, you can easily 
> afford the fuel cost.
> 
> You like electrics?  Go to any golf course.  They already have lots of neat 
> electric carts.
> 
> 
> On Tue, 6 Oct 2015 10:41:48 -0700
> Wayne Burdick  wrote:
> 
>> Neither Elecraft co-owner has a Tesla, nor are we likely to get them anytime 
>> soon, speaking strictly for both of us. I drive a very pragmatic Honda CRV 
>> and am coveting a Prius V for its better gas mileage. I prefer not to drive 
>> at all, actually. I have a hybrid mountain bike that runs on the equivalent 
>> of approx. 0.5 McChicken sandwiches per hour.
>> 
>> As for any engineer rumored to own a Tesla: Who am I to comment on whether 
>> they should raid their retirement nest-eggs to buy overpriced, overpowered, 
>> conspicuously consumptive, middle-age-postponing sports sedans? (Isn't the 
>> 'T' for Testosterone, something always in short supply? Might a Tesla be 
>> partially covered by the prescription drug clause in one's medical 
>> insurance?)
>> 
>> Finally, regarding the mobile radio: Go for it. Driving a Tesla, you may 
>> very well find yourself outside the cellphone network and many miles from 
>> that elusive next charging station.
>> 
>> Wayne
>> N6KR
>> 
>> 
>> On Oct 6, 2015, at 9:38 AM, Barry  wrote:
>> 
>>> I'm aware of a few Elecraft engineers and owners having a Tesla Model S,
>>> hence the post.  
>>> 
>>> When I first got my Model S, I had no plans to put a 2m radio in it.  Now
>>> I'm having second thoughts.  Wonder if any Model S owners have installed a
>>> radio?  
>>> 
>>> Feel free to contact me off list at my callsign at arrl.net, if you prefer.
>>> 
>>> Tnx,
>>> Barry W2UP
>> 
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Re: [Elecraft] OT: VHF radio in Tesla Model S

[Wes]

I would actually consider a Volt if I could get my GM retiree discount. (no 
chance)

Furthermore I live in a "red state".  GM is limiting sales of the '16 models to 
"blue" states. 

On Oct 6, 2015, at 12:31 PM, "Joe Subich, W4TV"  wrote:

> 
> From a practical perspective, the "battery with onboard generator" of the 
> Chevrolet Volt is far more practical (and has been around for a
> very long time as the diesel-electric locomotive).  It a real shame
> that the Volt is out of the price range of ordinary consumers as charge
> at home with gasoline (or diesel) for long distance range extension is
> clearly more practical than the limited battery only range of either
> Tesla or the Nissan Leaf.
> 
> I only wish that my father had the ability to follow up on his concept
> for the diesel-electric automobile 50 years ago.  Unfortunately neither
> energy storage (battery technology) nor environmental concerns where as
> well developed then as they are today.
> 
> 73,
> 
>  ... Joe, W4TV
> 
> 
> On 10/6/2015 2:15 PM, Wayne Burdick wrote:
>> Dave,
>> 
>> It was entirely tongue-in-cheek. See my followup posting. I'm a huge 
>> supporter of E-cars in general. I'm just jealous.
>> 
>> Wayne ("off-topic"), N6KR
>> 
>> 
>> On Oct 6, 2015, at 11:10 AM, David Gilbert  wrote:
>> 
>>> 
>>> That seems like a pretty mean-spirited snipe at a company that has arguably 
>>> done more to bring electric vehicles into the mainstream than any other.  
>>> Other companies may have higher volume and lower cost models out there, but 
>>> Tesla is the first one with the conviction to prove it can be successful as 
>>> a standalone business instead of just a side offering to satisfy EPA 
>>> average mileage requirements.  Certainly Tesla has started at the top end 
>>> of the food chain to do so, but their focus is headed toward the larger 
>>> market ... demonstrating along the way that electric vehicles don't need to 
>>> be the underpowered laughing stocks they were typically portrayed as.
>>> 
>>> Dave   AB7E
>>> 
>>> 
>>> 
>>> On 10/6/2015 10:41 AM, Wayne Burdick wrote:
 
 As for any engineer rumored to own a Tesla: Who am I to comment on whether 
 they should raid their retirement nest-eggs to buy overpriced, 
 overpowered, conspicuously consumptive, middle-age-postponing sports 
 sedans? (Isn't the 'T' for Testosterone, something always in short supply? 
 Might a Tesla be partially covered by the prescription drug clause in 
 one's medical insurance?)
 
 Finally, regarding the mobile radio: Go for it. Driving a Tesla, you may 
 very well find yourself outside the cellphone network and many miles from 
 that elusive next charging station.
 
 Wayne
 N6KR
 
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[Elecraft] Strange K3 microphone /PTT fault

[john petters]

My thanks to all who helped with advice on this. It was L4 open circuit
behind the mic socket. I'd have struggled to find this without this
reflector.
K3 now up and running again.
73 and thanks again.

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Re: [Elecraft] TX3X K3/KPA500 DXpedition to Chesterfield Islands on the air

[Matthew Cook]

Ahh.,...That would be why they sounded so great on 20m & 15m over the
weekend when were testing/tuning up our portable QRO OCDX contest
station...  it was K-line to K-line (*grin*)...

http://www.areg.org.au/?p=1793

Five of our ops had a crack at the pileups on both bands, although our
geography gave us something of an advantage.

73

Matthew
VK5ZM

On 7 October 2015 at 03:52, Eric Swartz - WA6HHQ, Elecraft <
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> TX3X on the the Chesterfield Islands is rolling along with their K3s and
> KPA500s.
>
> See:  www.tx3x.com
> and
> http://www.dxsummit.fi/#/?dx_calls=TX3X
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> 73,
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Re: [Elecraft] KX3 - Odd behaviour using DVR

[Bob N3MNT]

Keying the mic in DVR mode stops the DVR transmission.  It is possible that
as the headphone plug is removed it causes a brief pulse that causes the
radio to think the mic has been keyed.   



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Re: [Elecraft] OT: VHF radio in Tesla Model S

[Wes]

It's okay. We know you just wanted to brag about having a Tesla:-)

On Oct 6, 2015, at 1:57 PM, Barry  wrote:

> My apologies for starting this thread.  I had no idea it would take such a
> perverse turn from a simple question.
> 
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Re: [Elecraft] TX3X K3/KPA500 DXpedition to Chesterfield Islands on the air

[Yngvi (TF3Y)]

Propagation has been pretty awful at Northern latitudes.
Never heard over here in TF.

73, Yngvi TF3Y

On Tue, Oct 6, 2015 at 6:31 PM, Jim Brown  wrote:

> K6MM has been in contact with several of the ops at TX3X. They have been
> experiencing pretty awful WX, lots of rain, very high winds. Too much wind
> to get the 80M and 160M antennas up -- although they have been QRV on 80 in
> the last 12 hours.
>
> I worked them yesterday with 5W on 10M SSB.
>
> Here's what he posted to the NCDXC reflector yesterday.
>
> 73, Jim K9YC
>
> =   =   =   =   =
>
> Thus far I have been able to work these "local" TX3X operators on SSB:
>
> 40MTom, ND2T
> 20MRoss, K6GFJ
> 17MSteve, W1SRD
> 15MKevin, K6TD
>
> I volunteered to keep in touch with their families while they're on the
> DXpedition.
>
> My general sense from these "quick chats", is that they are having a
> miserable time coping with the high winds, rain, sleeping conditions, and
> Mother Nature in general on Chesterfield.  Some of this is documented on
> the internet, the latest yesterday:
>
> http://www.dx-world.net/tx3x-chesterfield-island-dxpedition-2015/
>
> Unfortunately their website and log search function has been down for
> several hours now: http://TX3X.com
> Hopefully this is temporary.
>
> The biggest problem has been installing their antennas, especially for 80M
> and 160M because of the high winds.  Thus far, they have not been able to
> activate those bands.  The team is still in good spirits, however, and
> determined to overcome these visits from Murphy.  They'll be there another
> week.  Let's wish them good luck.  Fingers crossed.
>
> My advice:  If you've already worked them, try to resist the temptation to
> rack up a lot of band-modes until the group has had a chance to put as many
> ATNO QSOs in the log as possible this week.  And keep watching those DX
> cluster spots.
>
> 73,
> John, K6MM
>
>
>
> On Tue,10/6/2015 11:08 AM, Wes (N7WS) wrote:
>
>> Rolling along?  Twelve ops, seven complete 500W stations and ton of
>> antennas and 21K Q's in 6 days.
>>
>> E6GG with seven ops and four radios made ~ 49k Q's in 12 days.
>>
>> Just sayin'
>>
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Re: [Elecraft] OT: VHF radio in Tesla Model S

[Jim Brown]

On Tue,10/6/2015 4:16 PM, Wes wrote:

I would actually consider a Volt if I could get my GM retiree discount. (no 
chance)


W6JTI lives in the "lost coast" area of NorCal and drives a Volt. he 
loves it. Several of my friends drive a Prius and love them. I 
encouraged my wife to buy one, and she's very happy too.  My vehicle is 
a big Toyota SUV -- living in the mountains, you need at least one 
"something big."



Furthermore I live in a "red state".  GM is limiting sales of the '16 models to 
"blue" states.


Don't let that stop you -- about 30 years ago, I wanted what was then 
Toyota's new van. Midwest dealers only sold them loaded, and I needed to 
buy the lower cost models. I found exactly what I wanted on a lot near 
LAX, secured my car loan, and flew out to pick it up and drive it home.


The dealership structure is something that the Tesla owner is working 
hard to break down. Like Elecraft, he only sells direct. And while Tesla 
is a premium model today, they're headed in the direction of much lower 
cost models. Also, Tesla is building a BIG facility in NV to make 
batteries.


73, Jim K9YC

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[Elecraft] EC2

[Don Palmer]

Before I order an EC2 just wondering if anyone in the UK has one they would
like to sell .

I'm also looking for a KAT100PNL kit.

 

Thanks

Don G6CMV

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Re: [Elecraft] PC<>P3

[Vic Rosenthal 4X6GP/K2VCO]

Salvo,

I don't have an Ultrabeam, but I have an older Palstar AT-AUTO antenna 
tuner hooked up like this. I have simply paralleled the RS232 RXD input 
to the tuner with the TXD line from the P3 that goes to the computer. I 
did not connect the TXD line of the tuner.


The tuner is in a listen-only configuration. In order for this to work, 
my logging program must be running. It polls the K3 and the tuner sees 
the data from the K3.


I believe some are doing the same thing with SteppIR antennas.

73,
Vic, 4X6GP/K2VCO
Rehovot, Israel
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On 6 Oct 2015 12:18, Salvatore Irato wrote:

Hi all.
On behalf of a good friend I would ask if there is anyone out there is
using or having experience using a configuration like this:
PC<>P3<>K3>UB cntrl.
Starting from a PC, connecting a P3 and then a K3, all via RS232, then
via the same RS232 having chained a Ultrabeam (UB) dynamic antenna
controller.
I mean a UB as a paralleled target, over TX data for the K3 VFO data,
coming from the K3 both as a result of any manual or logger charnges
of the K3 QRG.

I don't have all this, as I lack the dynamic antenna, but I am pretty
sure that somebody had already solved successfully all that. Thus
having the Ultrabeam controller getting data from the K3. As to follow
with motion, UB, K3 and logger changes to a new band or in band
segment changes. Isn't?

I ask all this in the more general terms, i.e. cables schema,
preferred speeds, reference url's or and so on. Any information could
be valuable from whoever had made this working.

  TU in advance, BTW feel free to drop me a mail out of list, not to
use too much space here.


   73 de iw1ayd Salvo

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[Elecraft] [KX3] Looking to Buy KXBC3 and KX-2M-AT

[Joel Black]

Subject line tells it. The 2 m transverter should be the one compatible with 
the installation of the ATU.

Does anyone have either they’d be willing to sell?

73,
Joel - W4JBB

P.S. Apple Mail wants to spell check transverter to transporter. I wish I could 
buy a transporter. ;)
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Re: [Elecraft] (no subject)

[Ian Kahn]

Congratulations! You passed!

Ian, KM4IK
On Oct 6, 2015 12:27 PM, "Jeff"  wrote:

> Test de W7JW
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Re: [Elecraft] KX3 - Odd behaviour using DVR

[Graham g3tct]

Hi Bob
The phones I use have separate mic and phones plugs - I'm only plugging 
/ unplugging the phones. And the phones aren't the problem since it all 
works fine in normal phone transmit. The problem (stopping the rig from 
transmitting) only arises when playing a DVR message.


I tap MSG, hold 1 or 2 for a message to be repeated. While transmitting, 
I unplug the headphones (or plug them in if previously unplugged). This 
causes it to stop transmitting, the KX3 display goes blank for a moment 
(scary!) then returns on receive.


Can anyone else duplicate this problem?

Graham


On 19:59, Bob N3MNT wrote:

Are you using headphones only or headphones w/mic



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Re: [Elecraft] OT: VHF radio in Tesla Model S

[Wayne Burdick]

Neither Elecraft co-owner has a Tesla, nor are we likely to get them anytime 
soon, speaking strictly for both of us. I drive a very pragmatic Honda CRV and 
am coveting a Prius V for its better gas mileage. I prefer not to drive at all, 
actually. I have a hybrid mountain bike that runs on the equivalent of approx. 
0.5 McChicken sandwiches per hour.

As for any engineer rumored to own a Tesla: Who am I to comment on whether they 
should raid their retirement nest-eggs to buy overpriced, overpowered, 
conspicuously consumptive, middle-age-postponing sports sedans? (Isn't the 'T' 
for Testosterone, something always in short supply? Might a Tesla be partially 
covered by the prescription drug clause in one's medical insurance?)

Finally, regarding the mobile radio: Go for it. Driving a Tesla, you may very 
well find yourself outside the cellphone network and many miles from that 
elusive next charging station.

Wayne
N6KR


On Oct 6, 2015, at 9:38 AM, Barry  wrote:

> I'm aware of a few Elecraft engineers and owners having a Tesla Model S,
> hence the post.  
> 
> When I first got my Model S, I had no plans to put a 2m radio in it.  Now
> I'm having second thoughts.  Wonder if any Model S owners have installed a
> radio?  
> 
> Feel free to contact me off list at my callsign at arrl.net, if you prefer.
> 
> Tnx,
> Barry W2UP


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[Elecraft] [K3] FS: Heil Gold Elite Mic ...

[Don Putnick]

... with cable/adapter for K3/K3S. Near mint condition. $99 including shipping 
and insurance. Please contact me off list. 73 Don NA6Z
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[Elecraft] (no subject)

[Jeff]

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[Elecraft] OT: VHF radio in Tesla Model S

[Barry]

I'm aware of a few Elecraft engineers and owners having a Tesla Model S,
hence the post.  

When I first got my Model S, I had no plans to put a 2m radio in it.  Now
I'm having second thoughts.  Wonder if any Model S owners have installed a
radio?  

Feel free to contact me off list at my callsign at arrl.net, if you prefer.

Tnx,
Barry W2UP



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[Elecraft] TX3X K3/KPA500 DXpedition to Chesterfield Islands on the air

[Eric Swartz - WA6HHQ, Elecraft]

TX3X on the the Chesterfield Islands is rolling along with their K3s and 
KPA500s.

See:  www.tx3x.com
and
http://www.dxsummit.fi/#/?dx_calls=TX3X

73,

Eric
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