Re: [Elecraft] Logging Programs

[F5vjc]

Take a good look at Log4OM.

73,  Deni - F5VJC



On 27 February 2016 at 23:34, Terry Brown  wrote:

> As the original sender of this thread, I want to thank all of you for
> taking
> the time to answer my question.  I was amazed at the number of logging
> programs out there, and the satisfaction that each of you have with the
> program you have.  I have spent the better part of a day looking at the
> ones
> you suggested.  I still haven't decided whether to stay with LOGic 9 or go
> with something else.  LOGic 9 is a very inclusive program.  It's interface
> is a bit dated, but it has served me very well over the years.  I was just
> getting frustrated with so many crashes.
>
>
>
> Thanks again, and Very 73's to all,
>
>
>
> Terry Brown, N7TB
>
>
>
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Re: [Elecraft] Logging Programs

[mkempi...@verizon.net]

So that no one gets confused, N1MMplus (the current vesion) is the most popular 
contest logging program out there.  It excels at contest logging and will let 
you cruise through 200+/hr QSO rates.  However it is not designed as a general 
purpose logger. N1MM makes this clear in the users guide.  It has a general DX 
logging mode but does not track QSLs or awards. The DX logging mode is really 
just another contest with no scoring.
The OP is looking for a general purpose logger and N1MMplus will not support 
his requirements.
I use N1MMplus for contesting and DXLabSuite for my general logging.
Take care.MarkAA3K
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[Elecraft] K3EXREF - What am I doing wrong

[Tighe Kuykendall]

I picked up the Leo Bodnar frequency reference and a K3EXREF board after 
reading a couple of threads here.  I Installed the board according to 
instructions, took static precautions, am using a known good cable from 
the K3 to said reference.  I can clearly hear the 10MHz tone on my K3 
when I tune a VFO to 10MHz and the signal goes away if I disconnect the 
coax from the freq reference.  I've checked all of the tmp connectors 
and reseated the K3EXREF board on the K3REF board and all pins are 
properly engaged.  But still no * on the display and the REF CAL setting 
remains unlocked.


Am I missing something, is there something to do to enable the K3EXREF 
other than plug in the freq reference and wait for some magic to happen?


73, Tighe NK4I


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Re: [Elecraft] ALC adjustment on K3S

[Nr4c]

Reduce the signal level on the computer output. Somewhere. Near 30% will often 
give you nice control with Lin In control (Mic gain).  

Sent from my iPhone
...nr4c. bill


> On Feb 27, 2016, at 5:17 PM, Sid Frissell  wrote:
> 
> Howdy
> Been using my K3s  (S/N 10462) for JT-65/JT-9 and am struggling with setting 
> the ALC.  I am using the Mic Gain control for fine tuning---unbelievably 
> fine.  You really can't actually touch the knob,  you just breath on it or 
> think hard about moving it!   It is the most sensitive control I have ever 
> had to deal with in my 60 years as a ham!  Am I missing something?  Is there 
> a better way to get old bar No. 5 jumping?  KE7K says that's what you do.  I 
> can do it but hoping there's a easier way.  Any help?
> 
> Sid, NZ7M
> 
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Re: [Elecraft] K1 Low Power on 20M band once ATU is installed...fixed!

[Don Wilhelm]

Michael,

C13 is the Transmit Offset capacitor adjustment.  It is quite possible 
that there was a bit of oxidation between the rotor and the fixed plate 
which was cleared by rotating the trimmer.


73,
Don W3FPR

On 2/27/2016 11:03 PM, n2...@aol.com wrote:
Well it is finally fixed.  When I went to listen to the signal on my 
K3 I noticed the frequency was off around 500 Hz or so.  Tried to 
adjust the sidetone pitch and nothing happened - test mode audio was 
weak and frequency would not change with C13.
I moved C13 back and forth a little and the tone came in nice and 
strong - with a adjustable pitch.
Re-installed ATU and now a full 5.5 Watts on 20 Meters using a 3 cell 
Li-Po (12.2 Vdc)!

Looks like a defective C13 or cold solder joint.
The owner of this K1 will be happy when he hears this news!
73's Michael
n2zdb


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[Elecraft] Logging Programs

[James F. Boehner MD via Elecraft]

Terry,

I use a freeware program called Logger32:  www.logger32.net .  I became
aware of the program as someone close to me did tech support prior to
becoming an SK.  It does have a healthy yahoogroup for questions.  They make
no bones about it NOT being a contest software program.  Otherwise, it does
virtually everything a logging software needs to do.

For contesting, I use the W3FJP software, as it is easy to use.  My goal is
to learn N1MM, as that is what I believe to be the de facto contest program.
I then export the contest log as an ADIF file, and import it into logger 32
which has my main log.  Both will do Cabrillo format which is the format in
which contest files are generally submitted.

'73 de JIM N2ZZ

-Original Message-
From: Elecraft [mailto:elecraft-boun...@mailman.qth.net] On Behalf Of Terry
Brown
Sent: Saturday, February 27, 2016 5:35 PM
To: elecraft@mailman.qth.net
Subject: Re: [Elecraft] Logging Programs

As the original sender of this thread, I want to thank all of you for taking
the time to answer my question.  I was amazed at the number of logging
programs out there, and the satisfaction that each of you have with the
program you have.  I have spent the better part of a day looking at the ones
you suggested.  I still haven't decided whether to stay with LOGic 9 or go
with something else.  LOGic 9 is a very inclusive program.  It's interface
is a bit dated, but it has served me very well over the years.  I was just
getting frustrated with so many crashes. 

 

Thanks again, and Very 73's to all,

 

Terry Brown, N7TB

 

 

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[Elecraft] K1 Low Power on 20M band once ATU is installed...fixed!

[Michael via Elecraft]

Well it is finally fixed.  When I went to listen to the signal on my  K3 I 
noticed the frequency was off around 500 Hz or so.  Tried to adjust  the 
sidetone pitch and nothing happened - test mode audio was weak and frequency  
would not change with C13.
 
I moved C13 back and forth a little and the tone came in nice and strong -  
with a adjustable pitch.
 
Re-installed ATU and now a full 5.5 Watts on 20 Meters using a 3 cell Li-Po 
 (12.2 Vdc)!
 
Looks like a defective C13 or cold solder joint.
 
The owner of this K1 will be happy when he hears this news!
 
73's Michael
n2zdb
 
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Re: [Elecraft] K1 Low Power on 20M band once ATU is installed...

[Don Wilhelm]

Michael,

One possibility is a bad relay or a relay mounted backwards or a relay 
with a poorly soldered connection.
You cannot reliably check the inductor relays without removing one lead 
of the inductors.  Do that first.
Then in menu ATU CLP you should have continuity through all the inductor 
relays.


L0 is the state where no inductors are selected, similarly, C0 is the 
state where no capacitors are selected.


I can draw no conclusions from the relative power output between 40 and 
20 meters.  You will have to lift one lead of all the inductors and see 
if there is end to end (input to output) conductivity.  You should be 
able to do that with a DC ohmmeter.  If you do not have end to end 
continuity, you can check each of the relays that short out the 
inductors to see which is the problematic one.


73,
Don W3FPR

On 2/27/2016 9:53 PM, Michael via Elecraft wrote:

Still have not figured out what's wrong with my newly built K1 w/  ATU.
  
For some reason everything is fine on the 40 M band but once I switch to 20

  M the power output
drops way down. On the low part of the band the power output is much higher
  but still too low.
  
I went thru all the C and L parameters in the ATU menu and checked the TX

output power and SWR.
  
Here is what I found:
  
  http://n2zdb.com/K1problem20M.jpg
  
Since there are 4 inductors and 5 capacitors what does L0 and C0  represent?
  
Figuring there was a problem with an inductor - I added a short between all

  the inductors at the relays (pins 3 to 4). This did not make a difference.
   However when a wire was added to K1 pin 4 to k4 pin 3 the power did come
up  a couple of Watts.
  
I need an EXPERT to figure this out...does anyone have any ideas?
  
73's Michael

n2zdb
  
  
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[Elecraft] K1 Low Power on 20M band once ATU is installed...

[Michael via Elecraft]

Still have not figured out what's wrong with my newly built K1 w/  ATU.
 
For some reason everything is fine on the 40 M band but once I switch to 20 
 M the power output
drops way down. On the low part of the band the power output is much higher 
 but still too low.
 
I went thru all the C and L parameters in the ATU menu and checked the TX  
output power and SWR. 
 
Here is what I found:
 
 http://n2zdb.com/K1problem20M.jpg
 
Since there are 4 inductors and 5 capacitors what does L0 and C0  represent?
 
Figuring there was a problem with an inductor - I added a short between all 
 the inductors at the relays (pins 3 to 4). This did not make a difference. 
  However when a wire was added to K1 pin 4 to k4 pin 3 the power did come 
up  a couple of Watts.
 
I need an EXPERT to figure this out...does anyone have any ideas?
 
73's Michael
n2zdb
 
 
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Re: [Elecraft] Using KX3 with Android device...

[Stephen Prior]

I'm afraid that I have to agree with Mark.  When I first saw KX3 companion
on a friend's tablet, I was very taken by it, so much so that I bought a
Lenovo tablet in order to be able to use it.  However, the first portable
operation found me simply not wanting to be bothered by the extra layer of
things to set up in the field (mid thirties celsius didn't help here) and
instead just controlled the KX3 from its front panel.  Maybe I should take
another look at it,  it's a fine piece of software.

73 Stephen G4SJP

On 27 February 2016 at 22:22, Mark, KE6BB via Elecraft <
elecraft@mailman.qth.net> wrote:

> I have used KX3 Companion on my my Android phone (Samsung Galaxy S5) using
> a USB OTG cable and the Elecraft KXUSB cable for rig control.  If you want
> a waterfall, you will need to add the appropriate audio cable.
> No special Android requirements.  I don't use it much though.  Far simpler
> to control the radio from its own front panel IMHO.
> Markars: KE6BB
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Re: [Elecraft] Logging Programs

[PKA]

Terry
My advice is that you try several of the free logging programs for some time 
and then decide which one you like the best. You can see from the answers that 
not one logging program fits all. It very much is a matter of taste. It should 
be very easy to move your log from any one logging system to another, so you 
dont have to worry about missing logged QSOs. I have used the free version HRD 
for many years and it fits my needs. I use another logging system (Ham 
Quicklog) on this iPAD (when operating RC from the iPAD) and from time to time 
I "synchronize"  the HRD and Ham Quicklog logs. Takes a few minutes but no 
sweat.

Sent from my iPad
Paul, OZ4UN

> On 27 Feb 2016, at 00:30, Terry Brown  wrote:
> 
> Hello All,
> 
> 
> 
> I have been using a logging program for many years called LOGic.  I am
> currently upgraded to ver. 9 because it had a KX3 interface.  As I have been
> using it in the learning mode, I find that the error trapping is not good
> and the program constantly crashes when I try to do something the software
> does not expect.  It is extremely frustrating to use.
> 
> 
> 
> I would be interested in changing to another logging/tcvr interfacing
> software program.  What has been your experience with these programs and
> what do you think are the best one's out there at this time.  I want
> something that will look up callsigns as I enter the calls, and it would be
> nice to have forms that can be edited and the fields moved around.   Award
> tracking is a big part of LOGic, as well as uploading to LOTW from the
> program.  It has a lot of features, but it has to be robust and usable, and
> this version is not that.
> 
> 
> 
> Thanks and 73's,
> 
> 
> 
> Terry Brown, N7TB
> 
> 
> 
> 
> 
> 
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Re: [Elecraft] New P3 command and Macros...

[Dave Cole]

Hi Vic,
Look at the spreadsheet I provide at www.nk7z.net, the CLR SPLIT
function returns the P3 to center use.
-- 
73's, and thanks,
Dave

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On Sat, 2016-02-27 at 22:11 +0200, Vic Rosenthal 4X6GP/K2VCO wrote:
> I see. That will be very useful.
> 
> Now all I will need is a save/restore function for the center
> frequency 
> and the span. I use fixed mode and have set up those parameters 
> differently for each band. For example, on 18 MHz I have the center
> set 
> to 18.084 and the span to 32 kHz. That gives me a fixed display of 
> 18.068 to 18.100.
> 
> If I had #RCF and save/restore, I could make one macro to save and
> drill 
> down to the pileup, and another to restore to the normal setting.
> 
> The #RCF would allow me to restore the center, as long as I didn't 
> change VFO A! But I often fiddle with it. And my span is different
> on 
> different bands.
> 
> 73,
> Vic, 4X6GP/K2VCO
> Rehovot, Israel
> http://www.qsl.net/k2vco/
> 
> On 27 Feb 2016 21:41, Alan wrote:
> > The #RCF+002500 command moves the P3 center frequency to 2.5 kHz
> > above
> > the K3 VFO A frequency.
> > 
> > It works in both tracking and fixed-tune mode, except that if it
> > places
> > the VFO cursor off-screen in fixed-tune mode, the P3 may
> > automatically
> > change its center frequency again to keep it on screen, depending
> > on the
> > setting of the FixMode menu setting.
> > 
> > Alan N1AL
> > 
> > 
> > On 02/27/2016 11:26 AM, Vic Rosenthal 4X6GP/K2VCO wrote:
> > > It looks like you are setting the span to 6 kHz. Then what
> > > exactly does
> > > #RCF +002500 do?
> > > 
> > > I'm thinking this only works in tracking mode, not fixed mode --
> > > correct?
> > > 
> > > 73,
> > > Vic, 4X6GP/K2VCO
> > > Rehovot, Israel
> > > http://www.qsl.net/k2vco/
> > > 
> > > On 27 Feb 2016 21:09, Dave Cole wrote:
> > > > A new command will be incorporated into the next P3 software
> > > > release--
> > > > RCF.
> > > > 
> > > > This new command allows one to move the P3 CENTER frequency
> > > > around on
> > > > the P3 screen, via relative moves, as opposed to the current
> > > > absolute
> > > > moves now available  What can this do for you?
> > > > 
> > > > In the macro below:
> > > > 
> > > > SWT13;SWT13;FT1;UPB7;RT0;XT0;#SPN60;#RCF+002500;
> > > > 
> > > > The K3 is placed in SPLIT 5 KHZ up mode, and the P3 is placed
> > > > into a
> > > > mode where the receive frequency is on the left edge of the P3
> > > > screen,
> > > > showing the pileup on the right in the above 5 KHz.
> > > > 
> > > > This allows you to see all stations you can hear who are
> > > > transmitting
> > > > up 5 from your target station.  You can then place your
> > > > transmit
> > > > frequency into the empty spots where no one is transmitting,
> > > > that you
> > > > can see, above a DX station using VFO B.
> > > > 
> > > > I have updated the spreadsheet at: http://nk7z.net/adding-an-ex
> > > > ternal-k
> > > > eypad-to-the-k3/ to include the above macro.  I have also
> > > > updated the
> > > > CLEAR SPLIT macro in the spreadsheet to clear the split, and
> > > > return the
> > > > P3 to center.  I have tested this with the Genovation Keypad,
> > > > and it
> > > > works like a charm...
> > > > 
> > > > Many thanks to Elecraft for taking the time to listen to input
> > > > from the
> > > > users, and for adding a command to allow this...  I honestly
> > > > can say, I
> > > > know of no other company, which listens to the users and
> > > > actually does
> > > > something as a result of listening to users other than
> > > > Elecraft...  I
> > > > am amazed at the customer service from Elecraft...
> > > > 
> > > > THANK YOU AGAIN for this level of support Elecraft.
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[Elecraft] Furnace RF Noise

[John K7JLT]

I am blessed with a low noise level that matches my K3 and need to replace my 
gas furnace without degrading my low noise level.  Has anyone out there had any 
experience with a Ruud model U96V? Please excuse the off topic subject.

John K7JLT

John K7JLT
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Re: [Elecraft] ALC adjustment on K3S

[Don Wilhelm]

Sid,

What mode? SSB or a soundcard data mode?
For SSB, did you first set Compression to zero?  If not, you should do 
that (Data modes do that automatically for you).
For SSB, you want 5 to 7 bars, but for DATA modes, you want 4 bars solid 
with the 5th bar flashing.
Set the soundcard output sliders to about 2/3 of max and adjust the rest 
with the MIC Gain control (controlling LINE IN).


A few checks - do you have MIC + LINE set in the menu?  If so, turn it off.
Is there a possibility of RF feedback?  Even if you think NO, please 
check it - set the K3S into TX TEST and no RF will be produced but all 
the other TX controls will work as normal.


If it turns out to be RF feedback, you have a different problem to 
solve.  That is usually most effectively controlled first by having good 
common mode chokes at your antenna feedpoint and possibly another at the 
shack entry point.  See the RFI documents of Jim Brown K9YC for 
information on effective common mode chokes.  Yes, some "baluns" claim 
to be good common mode chokes, but others are woefully lacking.


Keeping the RF out of the shack is always the best approach, but if you 
have a difficult situation such as an antenna close to the shack, you 
will receive direct RF in the shack area, and then the best cure is 
ferrite material on your connecting cables.


73,
Don W3FPR

On 2/27/2016 5:17 PM, Sid Frissell wrote:

Howdy
Been using my K3s  (S/N 10462) for JT-65/JT-9 and am struggling with setting 
the ALC.  I am using the Mic Gain control for fine tuning---unbelievably fine.  
You really can't actually touch the knob,  you just breath on it or think hard 
about moving it!   It is the most sensitive control I have ever had to deal 
with in my 60 years as a ham!  Am I missing something?  Is there a better way 
to get old bar No. 5 jumping?  KE7K says that's what you do.  I can do it but 
hoping there's a easier way.  Any help?




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Re: [Elecraft] Using KX3 with Android device...

[Mark, KE6BB via Elecraft]

I have used KX3 Companion on my my Android phone (Samsung Galaxy S5) using a 
USB OTG cable and the Elecraft KXUSB cable for rig control.  If you want a 
waterfall, you will need to add the appropriate audio cable.
No special Android requirements.  I don't use it much though.  Far simpler to 
control the radio from its own front panel IMHO.
Markars: KE6BB 



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Re: [Elecraft] Logging Programs

[Terry Brown]

As the original sender of this thread, I want to thank all of you for taking
the time to answer my question.  I was amazed at the number of logging
programs out there, and the satisfaction that each of you have with the
program you have.  I have spent the better part of a day looking at the ones
you suggested.  I still haven't decided whether to stay with LOGic 9 or go
with something else.  LOGic 9 is a very inclusive program.  It's interface
is a bit dated, but it has served me very well over the years.  I was just
getting frustrated with so many crashes. 

 

Thanks again, and Very 73's to all,

 

Terry Brown, N7TB

 

 

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[Elecraft] ALC adjustment on K3S

[Sid Frissell]

Howdy
Been using my K3s  (S/N 10462) for JT-65/JT-9 and am struggling with setting 
the ALC.  I am using the Mic Gain control for fine tuning---unbelievably fine.  
You really can't actually touch the knob,  you just breath on it or think hard 
about moving it!   It is the most sensitive control I have ever had to deal 
with in my 60 years as a ham!  Am I missing something?  Is there a better way 
to get old bar No. 5 jumping?  KE7K says that's what you do.  I can do it but 
hoping there's a easier way.  Any help?

Sid, NZ7M

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Re: [Elecraft] K3 5 pole vs 8 pole filters - attenuation in the passband

[Jim Brown]

On Sat,2/27/2016 9:33 AM, Richard Ferch wrote:
My solution for this is to configure the K3 to switch the 250 Hz 
roofing filter in at 350 Hz. A DSP filter of 250 Hz is a bit narrow, 
but with a 350 Hz DSP setting and the 250 Hz roofing filter, I still 
get good copy. 


WK6I wins RTTY contests. I'd go with his advice that 400 Hz is right for 
RTTY. He's not the only one who thinks so. So do W0YK (another winning 
RTTY contester) and G3YYD, the author of 2Tone, an excellent RTTY 
decoder. Switch to narrower IF only when the QRM gets really bad.


And so do I.  FWIW, I was saying that before anyone. :)

73, Jim K9YC
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Re: [Elecraft] K1 DC voltage check

[Don Wilhelm]

"not drastically" was what was used - trying to mean 'very little'.

73,
Don W3FPR

On 2/27/2016 3:12 PM, Mark Petrovic wrote:

Thank you, Don.

What does drastically mean in this context?


On Feb 27, 2016, at 11:59 AM, Don Wilhelm  wrote:

Mark,

You are effectively reading the voltage drop across D16.
That 600mV drop across D16 will not drastically affect the operation of the K1.
If you would like a bit higher voltage on the PA transistor, you can increase 
the voltage of your power supply a bit (the K1 upper voltage spec is 15 volts). 
 If you are running on batteries, it will make a little difference.
If you would like a lower voltage drop across D16, replace it with a 95SQ015 
which is available from Elecraft as p/n E560009 (it is used in the K2 as the 
series reverse voltage protection diode.

73,
Don W3FPR


On 2/27/2016 2:32 PM, Mark Petrovic wrote:
I'm performing the DC voltage checks (page 30 of the instructions), which occur 
immediately after installing the power switch on the RF board.

P1 pin 16 is supposed to be supply minus 300mV, but I get 600mV.  Is this a 
cause for concern?


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Re: [Elecraft] Logging Programs

[Larry Gauthier (K8UT)]

Jerry,

There is a small community of Linux users out there who report mixed results 
getting Windows logging apps (N1MM, DXLabs, HRD, and Logger32) running under 
WinE. My own experiments have used WinE and VirtualBox on Raspbian Jessie 
with the newer quad-core RPi model 2. App performance has been remarkably 
good, with Windows 10 on VirtualBox showing the most promise. The stumbling 
block always seems to be getting CAT working with Windows serial ports 
talking through the Linux /dev/tty* devices.


Unfortunately, this pursuit is at the bottom of a long list of programming 
projects and I am not likely to make further progress anytime soon. But I am 
interested in the topic and look forward to hearing about your findings.


-larry (K8UT)
-Original Message- 
From: Jerry Moore

Sent: Saturday, February 27, 2016 12:02 PM
To: j...@audiosystemsgroup.com ; elecraft@mailman.qth.net
Subject: Re: [Elecraft] Logging Programs

Any Of these run natively und r linux? I am setting up running raspberry pi 
under noobs Linux with x11. So far fldigi is the best pgm but lacks a lot of 
desired functionality. Wants: CAT, logging, digital, waterfall, bandscope 
thats sdr driven.


On February 27, 2016 11:40:14 AM EST, Jim Brown  
wrote:

On Sat,2/27/2016 4:51 AM, Jim Rodenkirch wrote:

I'm surprised no one has suggested N1MMI believe it meets his
requirements...or, did I miss something?  71.5 de Jim Rodenkirch

K9JWV

Yes, you did. N1MM is a contest logger, not a general logger, and is a
very poor choice for general logging.

73, Jim K9YC
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Re: [Elecraft] K1 DC voltage check

[Mark Petrovic]

Thank you, Don.

What does drastically mean in this context?

> On Feb 27, 2016, at 11:59 AM, Don Wilhelm  wrote:
> 
> Mark,
> 
> You are effectively reading the voltage drop across D16.
> That 600mV drop across D16 will not drastically affect the operation of the 
> K1.
> If you would like a bit higher voltage on the PA transistor, you can increase 
> the voltage of your power supply a bit (the K1 upper voltage spec is 15 
> volts).  If you are running on batteries, it will make a little difference.
> If you would like a lower voltage drop across D16, replace it with a 95SQ015 
> which is available from Elecraft as p/n E560009 (it is used in the K2 as the 
> series reverse voltage protection diode.
> 
> 73,
> Don W3FPR
> 
>> On 2/27/2016 2:32 PM, Mark Petrovic wrote:
>> I'm performing the DC voltage checks (page 30 of the instructions), which 
>> occur immediately after installing the power switch on the RF board.
>> 
>> P1 pin 16 is supposed to be supply minus 300mV, but I get 600mV.  Is this a 
>> cause for concern?
> 
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Re: [Elecraft] New P3 command and Macros...

[Vic Rosenthal 4X6GP/K2VCO]

I see. That will be very useful.

Now all I will need is a save/restore function for the center frequency 
and the span. I use fixed mode and have set up those parameters 
differently for each band. For example, on 18 MHz I have the center set 
to 18.084 and the span to 32 kHz. That gives me a fixed display of 
18.068 to 18.100.


If I had #RCF and save/restore, I could make one macro to save and drill 
down to the pileup, and another to restore to the normal setting.


The #RCF would allow me to restore the center, as long as I didn't 
change VFO A! But I often fiddle with it. And my span is different on 
different bands.


73,
Vic, 4X6GP/K2VCO
Rehovot, Israel
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On 27 Feb 2016 21:41, Alan wrote:

The #RCF+002500 command moves the P3 center frequency to 2.5 kHz above
the K3 VFO A frequency.

It works in both tracking and fixed-tune mode, except that if it places
the VFO cursor off-screen in fixed-tune mode, the P3 may automatically
change its center frequency again to keep it on screen, depending on the
setting of the FixMode menu setting.

Alan N1AL


On 02/27/2016 11:26 AM, Vic Rosenthal 4X6GP/K2VCO wrote:

It looks like you are setting the span to 6 kHz. Then what exactly does
#RCF +002500 do?

I'm thinking this only works in tracking mode, not fixed mode -- correct?

73,
Vic, 4X6GP/K2VCO
Rehovot, Israel
http://www.qsl.net/k2vco/

On 27 Feb 2016 21:09, Dave Cole wrote:

A new command will be incorporated into the next P3 software release--
RCF.

This new command allows one to move the P3 CENTER frequency around on
the P3 screen, via relative moves, as opposed to the current absolute
moves now available  What can this do for you?

In the macro below:

SWT13;SWT13;FT1;UPB7;RT0;XT0;#SPN60;#RCF+002500;

The K3 is placed in SPLIT 5 KHZ up mode, and the P3 is placed into a
mode where the receive frequency is on the left edge of the P3 screen,
showing the pileup on the right in the above 5 KHz.

This allows you to see all stations you can hear who are transmitting
up 5 from your target station.  You can then place your transmit
frequency into the empty spots where no one is transmitting, that you
can see, above a DX station using VFO B.

I have updated the spreadsheet at: http://nk7z.net/adding-an-external-k
eypad-to-the-k3/ to include the above macro.  I have also updated the
CLEAR SPLIT macro in the spreadsheet to clear the split, and return the
P3 to center.  I have tested this with the Genovation Keypad, and it
works like a charm...

Many thanks to Elecraft for taking the time to listen to input from the
users, and for adding a command to allow this...  I honestly can say, I
know of no other company, which listens to the users and actually does
something as a result of listening to users other than Elecraft...  I
am amazed at the customer service from Elecraft...

THANK YOU AGAIN for this level of support Elecraft.

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[Elecraft] Someone took a fancy in our K3 and left their teeth marks

[Sverre Holm (LA3ZA)]

See http://la3za.blogspot.no/2016/02/teeth-marks-in-k3.html



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Re: [Elecraft] K1 DC voltage check

[Don Wilhelm]

Mark,

You are effectively reading the voltage drop across D16.
That 600mV drop across D16 will not drastically affect the operation of 
the K1.
If you would like a bit higher voltage on the PA transistor, you can 
increase the voltage of your power supply a bit (the K1 upper voltage 
spec is 15 volts).  If you are running on batteries, it will make a 
little difference.
If you would like a lower voltage drop across D16, replace it with a 
95SQ015 which is available from Elecraft as p/n E560009 (it is used in 
the K2 as the series reverse voltage protection diode.


73,
Don W3FPR

On 2/27/2016 2:32 PM, Mark Petrovic wrote:

I'm performing the DC voltage checks (page 30 of the instructions), which occur 
immediately after installing the power switch on the RF board.

P1 pin 16 is supposed to be supply minus 300mV, but I get 600mV.  Is this a 
cause for concern?



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Re: [Elecraft] Logging Programs

[Jim Rodenkirch]

Opsmy badsheesh, better go in to the "read twice, reply once,"
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Re: [Elecraft] New P3 command and Macros...

[Alan]

The #RCF+002500 command moves the P3 center frequency to 2.5 kHz above 
the K3 VFO A frequency.


It works in both tracking and fixed-tune mode, except that if it places 
the VFO cursor off-screen in fixed-tune mode, the P3 may automatically 
change its center frequency again to keep it on screen, depending on the 
setting of the FixMode menu setting.


Alan N1AL


On 02/27/2016 11:26 AM, Vic Rosenthal 4X6GP/K2VCO wrote:

It looks like you are setting the span to 6 kHz. Then what exactly does
#RCF +002500 do?

I'm thinking this only works in tracking mode, not fixed mode -- correct?

73,
Vic, 4X6GP/K2VCO
Rehovot, Israel
http://www.qsl.net/k2vco/

On 27 Feb 2016 21:09, Dave Cole wrote:

A new command will be incorporated into the next P3 software release--
RCF.

This new command allows one to move the P3 CENTER frequency around on
the P3 screen, via relative moves, as opposed to the current absolute
moves now available  What can this do for you?

In the macro below:

SWT13;SWT13;FT1;UPB7;RT0;XT0;#SPN60;#RCF+002500;

The K3 is placed in SPLIT 5 KHZ up mode, and the P3 is placed into a
mode where the receive frequency is on the left edge of the P3 screen,
showing the pileup on the right in the above 5 KHz.

This allows you to see all stations you can hear who are transmitting
up 5 from your target station.  You can then place your transmit
frequency into the empty spots where no one is transmitting, that you
can see, above a DX station using VFO B.

I have updated the spreadsheet at: http://nk7z.net/adding-an-external-k
eypad-to-the-k3/ to include the above macro.  I have also updated the
CLEAR SPLIT macro in the spreadsheet to clear the split, and return the
P3 to center.  I have tested this with the Genovation Keypad, and it
works like a charm...

Many thanks to Elecraft for taking the time to listen to input from the
users, and for adding a command to allow this...  I honestly can say, I
know of no other company, which listens to the users and actually does
something as a result of listening to users other than Elecraft...  I
am amazed at the customer service from Elecraft...

THANK YOU AGAIN for this level of support Elecraft.


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[Elecraft] K1 DC voltage check

[Mark Petrovic]

I'm performing the DC voltage checks (page 30 of the instructions), which occur 
immediately after installing the power switch on the RF board.  

P1 pin 16 is supposed to be supply minus 300mV, but I get 600mV.  Is this a 
cause for concern?
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Re: [Elecraft] [K3] microphone question

[Don Wilhelm]

Kenwood dynamic microphones will work fine in the K2 - just turn the 
bias off.

Use the 600 impedance setting.  The 50k is for tube mic preamp inputs.

73,
Don W3FPR

On 2/27/2016 1:14 PM, David Christ wrote:

I came into possession of a Kenwood MC-50 Dynamic mike in the original box but 
probably not NOS.

Is this a suitable mike for the K3?

If so:

Is it better to use it at 600 or 50K impedance?




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Re: [Elecraft] New P3 command and Macros...

[Vic Rosenthal 4X6GP/K2VCO]

It looks like you are setting the span to 6 kHz. Then what exactly does 
#RCF +002500 do?


I'm thinking this only works in tracking mode, not fixed mode -- correct?

73,
Vic, 4X6GP/K2VCO
Rehovot, Israel
http://www.qsl.net/k2vco/

On 27 Feb 2016 21:09, Dave Cole wrote:

A new command will be incorporated into the next P3 software release--
RCF.

This new command allows one to move the P3 CENTER frequency around on
the P3 screen, via relative moves, as opposed to the current absolute
moves now available  What can this do for you?

In the macro below:

SWT13;SWT13;FT1;UPB7;RT0;XT0;#SPN60;#RCF+002500;

The K3 is placed in SPLIT 5 KHZ up mode, and the P3 is placed into a
mode where the receive frequency is on the left edge of the P3 screen,
showing the pileup on the right in the above 5 KHz.

This allows you to see all stations you can hear who are transmitting
up 5 from your target station.  You can then place your transmit
frequency into the empty spots where no one is transmitting, that you
can see, above a DX station using VFO B.

I have updated the spreadsheet at: http://nk7z.net/adding-an-external-k
eypad-to-the-k3/ to include the above macro.  I have also updated the
CLEAR SPLIT macro in the spreadsheet to clear the split, and return the
P3 to center.  I have tested this with the Genovation Keypad, and it
works like a charm...

Many thanks to Elecraft for taking the time to listen to input from the
users, and for adding a command to allow this...  I honestly can say, I
know of no other company, which listens to the users and actually does
something as a result of listening to users other than Elecraft...  I
am amazed at the customer service from Elecraft...

THANK YOU AGAIN for this level of support Elecraft.


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Re: [Elecraft] Elecraft K2 RF board

[Don Wilhelm]

Rick,

Look at that capacitor carefully under good light and magnification.  
See if that "330" isn't really "33G".  If so, it is the 47pF that you seek.

If it is marked "470J" then it is for certain the 47pF.

Sort your capacitors.  You should have 4 33pF and 4 47pF.  Once you have 
them all sorted and can compare the markings, it should become obvious.
The manual may show a disc type, but the type of capacitors has changed 
to mono in many cases.  The color of the capacitors has changed over 
time too.


One thing I can tell you is that you have a 2.2pF capacitor that is now 
labeled "229" - the '9' indicting that the decimal should be moved to 
the left by one place (9 is a negative 1).  That 2.2pF capacitor used to 
be a disc ceramic too, and is likely shown that way in the manual.


Sorry that this is confusing, but component procurement is getting more 
and more difficult as the industry moves to surface mount, and the 
sources of thru hole components is drying up.


73,
Don W3FPR

On 2/27/2016 12:03 PM, Rick A. wrote:
Hi all, I am working on assembling my K2 and for component C73, 47uf, 
all I have in my kit is a yellow colored cap that has 470 on one side 
& 330 on the other side. My manual shows a disc type. Some other pics 
I have seen show a blue colored cap. I have no means of testing 
capacitance.

Rick
KC9LDP
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Re: [Elecraft] K3/0 - How to enable left side mic?

[jlbates4]

Sorry - I have a K3/Mini not a K3/0...



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[Elecraft] K3/0 - How to enable left side mic?

[jlbates4]

I'm beyond frustrated...

Situation:  I've got a K3/0 attached to Remote Rig boxes to my K3 in the
shack.  MH2 mike works perfectly.  Headset plugged into the left SPKR jack
works fine.

No matter what I do, I can NOT get any audio transmitted from the left MIC
connector!

I've tried using 2 types of heil headsets - iC & HC4/5; I've detached the
MH2 mike and tried it; I've removed the RRC cable and configured the mic
input to RF.L, RF.H, RP.L, RP.H, Line In all to no avail!

Can anybody please help me with a suggestion?

Jim - K8OI



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Re: [Elecraft] Using KX3 with Android device...

[Ryan Noguchi via Elecraft]

I've used the KX3 Companion app extensively with my Nexus 7 2013 tablets. The 
website has a list of the devices that are known to work. You will need to make 
sure the device has USB hosting enabled. Some devices do not, and some wireless 
carriers apparently cripple this feature in their devices. You will need the 
Elecraft KXUSB cable and an aftermarket OTG adapter; the latter is available on 
Amazon and I've used examples from two different vendors. 
The 2013 Nexus 7 is a couple of generations old, but shows no sign of being 
limiting in processing speed. The KX3 is doing the heavy lifting: decoding CW, 
RTTY, and PSK and generating I/Q outputs. The app is just displaying the 
decoded text, waterfall, and spectrum, and sending commands to the KX3. The 
tablet setup also works fine with the KX3, PX3, and KXPA100 all hooked up in 
series, although decoding needs to be turned off in the PX3. 

I find the 7" tablet size to be the perfect compromise; small enough for 24-7 
portability, not too small to read and use, and big enough to use the full 
complement of 20 programmable macro keys. You may find a smaller device to be 
much less convenient to use. 
Hope this helps.

73, Ryan AI6DO

  From: David Davis 
 To: Elecraft@mailman.qth.net 
 Sent: Saturday, February 27, 2016 9:49 AM
 Subject: [Elecraft] Using KX3 with Android device...
   
Hello Everyone,

I am looking to use my KX3 with an Android type tablet. I am curious if 
there are any particular specification for the tablet that I should 
consider.

Any details would be greatly appreciated.

Thanks in advance,
David
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[Elecraft] New P3 command and Macros...

[Dave Cole]

A new command will be incorporated into the next P3 software release--
RCF.

This new command allows one to move the P3 CENTER frequency around on
the P3 screen, via relative moves, as opposed to the current absolute
moves now available  What can this do for you?

In the macro below:

SWT13;SWT13;FT1;UPB7;RT0;XT0;#SPN60;#RCF+002500;

The K3 is placed in SPLIT 5 KHZ up mode, and the P3 is placed into a
mode where the receive frequency is on the left edge of the P3 screen,
showing the pileup on the right in the above 5 KHz.  

This allows you to see all stations you can hear who are transmitting
up 5 from your target station.  You can then place your transmit
frequency into the empty spots where no one is transmitting, that you
can see, above a DX station using VFO B.

I have updated the spreadsheet at: http://nk7z.net/adding-an-external-k
eypad-to-the-k3/ to include the above macro.  I have also updated the
CLEAR SPLIT macro in the spreadsheet to clear the split, and return the
P3 to center.  I have tested this with the Genovation Keypad, and it
works like a charm...  

Many thanks to Elecraft for taking the time to listen to input from the
users, and for adding a command to allow this...  I honestly can say, I
know of no other company, which listens to the users and actually does
something as a result of listening to users other than Elecraft...  I
am amazed at the customer service from Elecraft...  

THANK YOU AGAIN for this level of support Elecraft. 
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Dave

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Re: [Elecraft] PX3 noise generated on KX3-2M

[David Anderson]

That is how I fixed my problem then, I have connected the real common on the 
top of the socket to the flange which is connected to the case. I used a piece 
of copper tape as shown in last email photo. This stops the connection between 
the flange (case) and the common on the board being reliant on the plug being a 
tight fit in the barrel. 

It all makes sense now. 

Sorry if I had confused the situation with my description written from memory, 
but I did send photos clearly showing what I had done.  ;-)

I was adamant that this fixed a problem for me with radiated crud on 2m, 
especially annoying as it could be intermittent depending on how much pressure 
was applied sideways to the plug. 

This type of connector is used in other pieces of gear, like the KX3, is there 
a similar pin 1 type problem as a result of the same thing I wonder Alan?

I am sure you folks at Elecraft will come up with a more elegant solution than 
I did. :-)

73 from David GM4JJJ

> On 27 Feb 2016, at 18:19, Alan  wrote:
> 
> However I did find out something that was news to me. I had to remove the 
> power supply board from the PX3 and do some more ohmmeter measurements to 
> discover it.  It turns out that the metal body of the connector that screws 
> to the panel is not connected to its ground pin! In other words, there is no 
> electrical connection between the side panel and the ground pin (PCB ground 
> plane) when the power plug is not inserted.
> 
> When the plug is inserted, the mounting flange and the ground pin are 
> connected only through the plug's outer sleeve.  That solves the mystery of 
> why wiggling the plug caused the radiated noise to go up and down. If the 
> plug's sleeve does not make good contact with the connector flange, then 
> there is a "pin 1" problem because the sleeve is grounded only via the PC 
> board, which has a long return path to chassis ground.
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[Elecraft] OT: W8FGU Enclosure & Shipping Price Change

[Dave W8FGU]

Hi all,

I apologize in advance for the bandwidth and ask for Eric's and the 
list's indulgence.


I have not had to increase the price of my mini-module enclosure line in 
over three years. But with steady increases in my raw material costs and 
their associated shipping costs, I am forced to raise my prices 5 - 10% 
(typically $1 - $2 per enclosure). I am constantly looking for lower 
cost alternative sources for my materials but with my low volumes I 
don't get much of a break. The price increase will go into effect March 
5th, 2016.


Also, due to the recent USPS price increases in January of this year, I 
can no longer offer the flat $8.50 domestic shipping charge. I have 
restructured the shipping charges based on weight and zip code zone (by 
state). In the zones closest to my location (MI), the rates have 
actually dropped from the $8.50 flat fee for single enclosure orders. 
Obviously, the farther out from my location, the higher the cost.


PayPal is now allowing the use of First Class mail for packages 16 oz or 
less. Most of my enclosures, with packaging, weigh in around the 15 - 16 
oz mark, so I will be implementing this as a shipping option for single 
enclosure orders in the near future. This will be a lower cost option 
compared to the current Priority Mail option.


Please contact me for a direct shipping quote for 5 or more enclosures. 
And as always, contact me for a quote for all international and custom 
orders.


I have already implemented the Priority Mail changes to the site, but I 
will honor the old enclosure prices for another week.


Thanks for the bandwidth.

73,

Dave W8FGU

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[Elecraft] [K3] microphone question

[David Christ]

I came into possession of a Kenwood MC-50 Dynamic mike in the original box but 
probably not NOS.

Is this a suitable mike for the K3?

If so:

Is it better to use it at 600 or 50K impedance?

Any suggestions for equalization?


David K0LUM

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Re: [Elecraft] Logging Programs

[Kevin Stover]

No.
The best general logging program Linux users available is CQRLog. 
Disclaimer: Since I quit using Linux, long story, lets just say the 
state of accessibility software for Windows and Linux (there is one 
package and it's not good) is like night and day, I haven't kept up all 
that closely with development of CQRLog.


On 2/27/2016 11:02 AM, Jerry Moore wrote:

Any Of these run natively und r linux? I am setting up running raspberry pi 
under noobs Linux with x11. So far fldigi is the best pgm but lacks a lot of 
desired functionality. Wants: CAT, logging, digital, waterfall, bandscope thats 
sdr driven.

On February 27, 2016 11:40:14 AM EST, Jim Brown  
wrote:

On Sat,2/27/2016 4:51 AM, Jim Rodenkirch wrote:

I'm surprised no one has suggested N1MMI believe it meets his
requirements...or, did I miss something?  71.5 de Jim Rodenkirch

K9JWV

Yes, you did. N1MM is a contest logger, not a general logger, and is a
very poor choice for general logging.

73, Jim K9YC
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[Elecraft] Using KX3 with Android device...

[David Davis]

Hello Everyone,

I am looking to use my KX3 with an Android type tablet. I am curious if 
there are any particular specification for the tablet that I should 
consider.


Any details would be greatly appreciated.

Thanks in advance,
David
KG6MTI

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Re: [Elecraft] K3 5 pole vs 8 pole filters - attenuation in the passband

[Guy Olinger K2AV]

I find that the biggest use for the "250" filter, which really is ~350, is
to narrow a run station passband when the band gets crowded. These days
that's almost always. I find a place where the "400" really 450, does not
contain other stations, and then operate at 350 Hz bandwidth. I use the
"400" at 450 for casual CW operation. Have to remember that the 250 filter
is the filter that INRAD designed for use in the FT1000MP series, as part
of a cascaded PAIR of filters where the pair was a top shelf 250. The pair
was the 8 MHz IF and 455 kHz IF filters in series.

The "250" 8 pole and the DSP set at 250 work very well together, good
enough for any of my needs. With the "250" defined as 350 in the K3, and
the DSP at 350, you have very sharp skirts eminently useful for crowded
contest work.

73, Guy K2AV

On Sat, Feb 27, 2016 at 11:21 AM, Scott Ellington 
wrote:

> I have both the 8 pole 400 Hz and 250 Hz filters.  For CW, I just haven't
> found the 250 Hz filter that useful.  For one thing, it's not really that
> much narrower than the 400 Hz filter.  I do find that a bandwidth less than
> 400 Hz is sometimes useful in heavy QRM, but I think the 400 Hz filter and
> DSP would be adequate.  If I were to do it over again, I would not buy the
> 250 Hz filter, at least not before trying without in a few contests.
>
> 73,
>
> Scott  K9MA
>
> On 2/27/2016 09:56, lstavenhagen wrote:
>
>> for what it may be worth, the 400hz 8 poles in my K3 and K3S are like
>> brick
>> walls. I haven't yet found a situation where the 400hz filter plus using
>> the
>> DSP to go narrower hasn't covered even the most crowded situations.
>>
>> I'm 99.9986% CW, so that filter is adequate for me but if you're a PSK
>> hound, for example, I could see the 250hz filter. For RTTY, I think the
>> 250hz filter might be borderline, though...
>>
>> Just my thoughts,
>> LS
>> W5QD
>>
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Re: [Elecraft] Logging Programs

[Gary]

Qrx lookup?

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To: "elecraft@mailman.qth.net" 
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I'm surprised no one has suggested N1MMI believe it meets his
requirements...or, did I miss something?  71.5 de Jim Rodenkirch K9JWV 



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Re: [Elecraft] Elecraft K2 RF board

[Matt Maguire]

C73 should be 47pF, not 47uF, in which case, the marking "470" would mean the 
capacitor in (in pF) 47 followed by no zeros.
In the manual, it shows that for that group of capacitors, it could be a disc 
ceramic type OR a monolithic. Most likely it will be monolithic, either yellow 
or possibly blue.
Not sure why the part you mention has 330 on one side and 470 on the other. One 
helpful reason to do an inventory at the start is to help work out through a 
process of deduction/elimination how to interpret the markings in cases where 
there is ambiguity. Maybe if you posted a closeup picture of both sides we 
would help identify the part.
73, Matt VK2RQ

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Hi all, I am working on assembling my K2 and for component C73, 47uf, 
all I have in my kit is a yellow colored cap that has 470 on one side & 
330 on the other side. My manual shows a disc type. Some other pics I 
have seen show a blue colored cap. I have no means of testing capacitance.
Rick
KC9LDP
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Re: [Elecraft] K3 5 pole vs 8 pole filters - attenuation in the passband

[Joe Subich, W4TV]

The Elecraft/Inrad "250 Hz" filter is actually 370 Hz at -6dB where the
"400 Hz" filter is 435 Hz.  That's not enough to make a real difference
*as a roofing filter* since the primary selectivity of the K3/K3S is in
the DSP.

370 Hz is the minimum necessary bandwidth for a 170 Hz shift 45.45 baud
FSK signal ... any tighter than that and the loss of sideband energy
creates increased inter symbol interference (one bit gets "smeared" in
to the next).  The 400 Hz filter is really the one to have for RTTY -
even if the DSP is tightened below that on occasion.

It is a shame the Elecraft 200 Hz filters are no longer available -
they were superior overall for very tight CW (tighter than the 250 Hz,
8 pole filters all the way to -40 or - 50 dB) and provided a real
difference from the 400 Hz filters.  If one really *must* have the
250/370 Hz filter, the next filter to have would be the Elecraft/Inrad
1000/1060 Hz, the custom UnPCBS  700/785 Hz
filter, or perhaps the Inrad 500/550? Hz 8 pole filter (although the
difference between the "250" and "500" is rather small but not as
small as between the 250 and 400 nominal filters).

Remember, the purpose of the first IF ("roofing") filter is to protect
the If and Analog to Digital converter (ADC) from strong, adjacent
signals, *not* to provide the final selectivity as in the case of a
conventional superhetrodyne receiver.

73,

   ... Joe, W4TV


On 2/27/2016 11:21 AM, Jeff Stai wrote:

On Sat, Feb 27, 2016 at 7:56 AM, lstavenhagen 
wrote:


I'm 99.9986% CW, so that filter is adequate for me but if you're a PSK
hound, for example, I could see the 250hz filter. For RTTY, I think the
250hz filter might be borderline, though...



For RTTY the sweet spot is 400. At 250 you might lose information your
decoders need to work. 73 jeff wk6i



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Re: [Elecraft] K3 5 pole vs 8 pole filters - attenuation in the passband

[Richard Ferch]

My solution for this is to configure the K3 to switch the 250 Hz roofing 
filter in at 350 Hz. A DSP filter of 250 Hz is a bit narrow, but with a 
350 Hz DSP setting and the 250 Hz roofing filter, I still get good copy.


That being said, most of the time I operate RTTY with a 500 Hz roofing 
filter and the DSP filter at 400-450 Hz; I only use the 350 Hz setting 
when there is a strong signal shoulder-to-shoulder with the one I am 
trying to copy.


73,
Rich VE3KI

WK6I wrote:


For RTTY the sweet spot is 400. At 250 you might lose information your
decoders need to work. 73 jeff wk6i


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Re: [Elecraft] Logging Programs

[Robie Elms]

Logic9 is another logging program.  It has user configurable layout and a
number of other features.  www.hosenose.com is the website.

support is good, but the program is not free!

Robie - AJ4F

On Sat, Feb 27, 2016 at 11:02 AM, Jerry Moore 
wrote:

> Any Of these run natively und r linux? I am setting up running raspberry
> pi under noobs Linux with x11. So far fldigi is the best pgm but lacks a
> lot of desired functionality. Wants: CAT, logging, digital, waterfall,
> bandscope thats sdr driven.
>
> On February 27, 2016 11:40:14 AM EST, Jim Brown 
> wrote:
> >On Sat,2/27/2016 4:51 AM, Jim Rodenkirch wrote:
> >> I'm surprised no one has suggested N1MMI believe it meets his
> >> requirements...or, did I miss something?  71.5 de Jim Rodenkirch
> >K9JWV
> >
> >Yes, you did. N1MM is a contest logger, not a general logger, and is a
> >very poor choice for general logging.
> >
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[Elecraft] Elecraft K2 RF board

[Rick A.]

Hi all, I am working on assembling my K2 and for component C73, 47uf, 
all I have in my kit is a yellow colored cap that has 470 on one side & 
330 on the other side. My manual shows a disc type. Some other pics I 
have seen show a blue colored cap. I have no means of testing capacitance.

Rick
KC9LDP
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Re: [Elecraft] Logging Programs

[Jerry Moore]

Any Of these run natively und r linux? I am setting up running raspberry pi 
under noobs Linux with x11. So far fldigi is the best pgm but lacks a lot of 
desired functionality. Wants: CAT, logging, digital, waterfall, bandscope thats 
sdr driven.

On February 27, 2016 11:40:14 AM EST, Jim Brown  
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>On Sat,2/27/2016 4:51 AM, Jim Rodenkirch wrote:
>> I'm surprised no one has suggested N1MMI believe it meets his
>> requirements...or, did I miss something?  71.5 de Jim Rodenkirch
>K9JWV
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>Yes, you did. N1MM is a contest logger, not a general logger, and is a 
>very poor choice for general logging.
>
>73, Jim K9YC
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Re: [Elecraft] Logging Programs

[Jim Brown]

On Sat,2/27/2016 4:51 AM, Jim Rodenkirch wrote:

I'm surprised no one has suggested N1MMI believe it meets his
requirements...or, did I miss something?  71.5 de Jim Rodenkirch K9JWV


Yes, you did. N1MM is a contest logger, not a general logger, and is a 
very poor choice for general logging.


73, Jim K9YC
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[Elecraft] Re: Logging Programs

[mkempi...@verizon.net]

I too have been using DX Lab Suite for many years.  It has all of the features 
you want except customizable screen layout.  It does have customizable user 
fields that you can use as you see fit.
Many areas have a scripting ability you can use to expand capabilities.
It does operate a bit differently than other programs in that it is 6 or 7 
separate programs that can interact with each other. The launcher let's you 
fire off whatever parts you want as a normal operating environment or you can 
just launch the piece that you need at the momment.  Like just the actual 
logger so you can enter cards from the buro.
You can't beat the cost, $0! More than enough reason to at least give it a try. 
Do note the learning curve can be steep. But if you aim for the basics and are 
used to something like LOGic you should be productive within 30 minutes.
Take care.MarkAA3K
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Re: [Elecraft] K3 5 pole vs 8 pole filters - attenuation in the passband

[Jeff Stai]

On Sat, Feb 27, 2016 at 7:56 AM, lstavenhagen 
wrote:

> I'm 99.9986% CW, so that filter is adequate for me but if you're a PSK
> hound, for example, I could see the 250hz filter. For RTTY, I think the
> 250hz filter might be borderline, though...
>

For RTTY the sweet spot is 400. At 250 you might lose information your
decoders need to work. 73 jeff wk6i


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Re: [Elecraft] K3 5 pole vs 8 pole filters - attenuation in the passband

[Scott Ellington]

I have both the 8 pole 400 Hz and 250 Hz filters.  For CW, I just 
haven't found the 250 Hz filter that useful.  For one thing, it's not 
really that much narrower than the 400 Hz filter.  I do find that a 
bandwidth less than 400 Hz is sometimes useful in heavy QRM, but I think 
the 400 Hz filter and DSP would be adequate.  If I were to do it over 
again, I would not buy the 250 Hz filter, at least not before trying 
without in a few contests.


73,

Scott  K9MA

On 2/27/2016 09:56, lstavenhagen wrote:

for what it may be worth, the 400hz 8 poles in my K3 and K3S are like brick
walls. I haven't yet found a situation where the 400hz filter plus using the
DSP to go narrower hasn't covered even the most crowded situations.

I'm 99.9986% CW, so that filter is adequate for me but if you're a PSK
hound, for example, I could see the 250hz filter. For RTTY, I think the
250hz filter might be borderline, though...

Just my thoughts,
LS
W5QD



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[Elecraft] K3/100F FOR SALE

[Tommy Berggren]

K3/100F FOR SALE,  Serial number 8236, factory assembled, no issues, little
use, DX chasing, from non-smoking/no pet home, first owner.  Included
options:



KAT3-F  Internal ATU with 2nd Ant Jack

KXV3A-F  RX Ant, IF Out and Xverter Interface

KTCX03-1-F  TXCO High Stability Ref Osc

KBPF3  General Coverage RX Module

KRX3-F  High Performance Subreceiver



Filter complement for both main and subreceiver:

Standard 2.7kHz 5-pole filter

KFL3A-1.8K-F 1.8kHz, 8-pole roofing filter

KFL3A-200-F  200 Hz,  5-pole filter

KFL3A-500-F   500 Hz,  5-pole filter

K3FLTMATCH 5-pole filter matching to 40Hz



USB Adapter for K3 (Sargent – after market)

DC power cord and Owner’s manual

Original box



Paid $4,485 in Apr 2014.  Would like $3,550 plus $25 contribution to
insured ground shipment to lower 48.  Prefer local sale Phoenix area.
Cashier’s check or USPS MO.

73, Tommy  WE7K we7kham at gmail dot com
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Re: [Elecraft] K3 5 pole vs 8 pole filters - attenuation in the passband

[lstavenhagen]

for what it may be worth, the 400hz 8 poles in my K3 and K3S are like brick
walls. I haven't yet found a situation where the 400hz filter plus using the
DSP to go narrower hasn't covered even the most crowded situations. 

I'm 99.9986% CW, so that filter is adequate for me but if you're a PSK
hound, for example, I could see the 250hz filter. For RTTY, I think the
250hz filter might be borderline, though...

Just my thoughts,
LS
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Re: [Elecraft] FS: Buddipole antenna w/tripod, mast, rotating arm/vertical kit

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Sold!



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Re: [Elecraft] Logging Programs

[Brian F Wruble]

Try CommCAT.  Www.commcat.com.  

 I have been a beta tester for years, and it keeps getting better.  It 
integrates beautifully with the Internet.  LOTW uploads are very easy, as are 
downloads of QSL info from LOTW.  It works well with my K3 and my rotor.  It 
has very detailed packet spot alerting, so you can get quick info about which 
spots you need to work for new bands/modes, etc.  Howard, W6HN provides 
fabulous support, fixes bugs quickly, and is always upgrading capabilities.  

73 de Brian W3BW



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> On Feb 26, 2016, at 6:30 PM, Terry Brown  wrote:
> 
> Hello All,
> 
> 
> 
> I have been using a logging program for many years called LOGic.  I am
> currently upgraded to ver. 9 because it had a KX3 interface.  As I have been
> using it in the learning mode, I find that the error trapping is not good
> and the program constantly crashes when I try to do something the software
> does not expect.  It is extremely frustrating to use.
> 
> 
> 
> I would be interested in changing to another logging/tcvr interfacing
> software program.  What has been your experience with these programs and
> what do you think are the best one's out there at this time.  I want
> something that will look up callsigns as I enter the calls, and it would be
> nice to have forms that can be edited and the fields moved around.   Award
> tracking is a big part of LOGic, as well as uploading to LOTW from the
> program.  It has a lot of features, but it has to be robust and usable, and
> this version is not that.
> 
> 
> 
> Thanks and 73's,
> 
> 
> 
> Terry Brown, N7TB
> 
> 
> 
> 
> 
> 
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Re: [Elecraft] Logging Programs

[Geoffrey Downs]

Terry, also consider Logger32. Free, well supported, very customisable, 
automatic program and Clublog callsign/country updates, dxpedition details 
plus pretty much every other feature you could want, including the ones you 
mention.


73

Geoff
G3UCK

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From: Terry Brown

Sent: 26 February, 2016 11:30 PM

Subject: [Elecraft] Logging Programs



I would be interested in changing to another logging/tcvr interfacing
software program.  What has been your experience with these programs and
what do you think are the best one's out there at this time.  I want
something that will look up callsigns as I enter the calls, and it would be
nice to have forms that can be edited and the fields moved around.   Award
tracking is a big part of LOGic, as well as uploading to LOTW from the
program.  It has a lot of features, but it has to be robust and usable, and
this version is not that.



Thanks and 73's,



Terry Brown, N7TB







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Re: [Elecraft] Logging Programs

[Joe Subich, W4TV]

On 2/27/2016 7:51 AM, Jim Rodenkirch wrote:
> I'm surprised no one has suggested N1MMI believe it meets his
> requirements...or, did I miss something?

N1MM is contest software.  It does not support QSL or award management
which were two of the stated requirements.

BTW, to clarify previous recommendations, the software mentioned is
DXLab or DXLab Suite  not DXLabs.

73,

  ... Joe, W4TV

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Re: [Elecraft] Logging Programs

[Jim Rodenkirch]

I'm surprised no one has suggested N1MMI believe it meets his
requirements...or, did I miss something?  71.5 de Jim Rodenkirch K9JWV 



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Re: [Elecraft] PX3 noise generated on KX3-2M

[David Anderson]

Alan,

Thanks for taking the time to investigate this. 


> On 27 Feb 2016, at 05:35, Alan  wrote:
> 
> I finally got around to checking this.
> 
>> 
> 
> It is not a "pin 1" problem. The metal shell of the chassis-mount power 
> supply connector is mounted directly to the metal side panel of the PX3 and 
> the paint is masked around the hole to make sure it makes a good connection.

Agree that is the case on mine also.

> 
> On 02/23/2016 10:26 AM, David Anderson wrote:
> 
> > Since I purchased my PX3 I have suffered from radiated noise at 144
> > MHz.
> ...
> > I had already checked that the DC Jack was grounded properly to the
> > side panel.

First thing I checked.



> However what I hadn't appreciated is that the common of
> > the PCB is connected to a switch in the Jack and is not directly
> > connected to the chassis of the Jack.

We agree


> What was happening was the
> > barrel of the plug was connecting to the pole of this switch and the
> > PCB common, but only loosely to the chassis of the Jack.

The switch doesn’t connect to anything, BUT the contact connection to the 
barrel of the plug makes much better contact to switch contact spring than the 
regular connection.



> Movement of
> > the plug sideways with enough pressure did connect the plug better to
> > chassis and resulted in the noise going away.

This is the problem, not the connection from the socket to the chassis which is 
perfectly fine. It is the relatively poor connection between the plug and 
socket. Exerting sideways pressure decrease the contact resistance from DC 
return to the chassis. Note nothing to do with the tightness of the nut on the 
socket, that wasn’t moving and was not slack. 



> 
> I'm trying to understand that.  The power jack has three pins, the connector 
> shell (tied to the printed circuit board ground plane in the PX3), the center 
> pin (connected to the +12V input) and a switch.  The switch shorts to the 
> connector shell when nothing is plugged in and opens when a power plug is 
> inserted.

OK
> 
> But the thing is, the switch is not used and that pin is not connected to 
> anything inside the PX3.  (The only reason I used a jack with a switch was 
> that it was the only suitable chassis-mount type I could find.)  Besides, 
> that pin is internally disconnected whenever the plug is inserted anyway.

However using the unused switch contact switch is a much better connection from 
plug DC return and connecting that to the chassis reduced the intermittent poor 
contact bonding between the DC plug and the chassis.

> 
> I just confirmed all that by double-checking the PCB artwork and by measuring 
> an actual PX3 with an ohmmeter.  If you'd like to check it yourself, the 
> three connector contacts are arranged like this:  The switch pin is the one 
> on the side of the connector.  The +12V pin is the one farthest from the 
> panel.  The shield/ground pin is the one that is almost hidden underneath the 
> connector.
> 
> > I opened up the back of
> > the PX3 and connected the chassis part of the Jack to the PCB common
> > side of the jack's switch by soldering a small piece of copper EMI
> > tape across the gap. This ensures that the PCB common is stoutly
> > connected directly to chassis at the DC Jack.
> >
> > This has had the desired effect, no more intermittent  increases in
> > spurs heard in the receiver as the leads are touched or moved,
> 
> I'm not sure from that description exactly what was connected to what so it's 
> hard to figure out how that could have affected the noise.  It sounds like 
> you probably connected the switch contact to the connector shell, but I don't 
> see how that could have affected anything since that contact is disconnected 
> whenever a plug is inserted and it's a no-connect on the PC board.

By connecting that very good connection between the switch contact and the 
barrel of the DC plug to the chassis of the PX3 with a very short wide piece of 
copper tape the resistance from barrel to chassis was consistently low and the 
radiated noise was eliminated.


> 
> You might check to make sure the mounting nut on the power connector is good 
> and tight and the connector body is making a solid contact to the inside of 
> the side panel.  I'm guessing that's the most likely cause of the noise 
> radiation.


No, that was not the case, it was the very first thing I checked. It is purely 
the contact resistance from plug  outer to the socket not being good enough, 
and the solution was to reduce that by using the unused contact going to the 
switch and bonding that contact to the chassis as well. It completely 
eliminated the problem I had.


73

David GM4JJJ

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