[Elecraft] KXPD2 shipping?

2016-07-04 Thread Bruce Nourish
The website says June 28th, but I haven't heard anything on my order. No
rush, just curious.

Bruce
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Re: [Elecraft] KPOD

2016-07-04 Thread Eric Swartz - WA6HHQ, Elecraft

Hopefully tomorrow!

73,

Eric
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On 7/4/2016 12:19 PM, Tom Morehouse wrote:

Received my KPOD on Thursday, but just hooked it up today.  First item: you 
must have beta firmware 5.50 installed for it to work.   item two: manual 
states that you must have K3 Utility Program rev 1.16.3.11 to store macros 
9-16.  I couldn’t find any utility later than 1.15.6.27.  Must be coming soon

73 and happy Fourth!

Tom K4AEN
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Re: [Elecraft] R: OT - Neumann vs. Heil Michrophone

2016-07-04 Thread Eric Swartz - WA6HHQ, Elecraft

Folks, lets end this thread in the interest of relieving email overload for 
others.

73,

Eric
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On 7/4/2016 6:34 PM, Gary wrote:

Some ops like bassy audio, it is really tough to understand the audio due to my 
damaged hearing so I don't call, added to ESSB further exacerbates the problem 
I have.


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Re: [Elecraft] R: OT - Neumann vs. Heil Michrophone

2016-07-04 Thread Grant Youngman
Well, find me a "crowded" band anytime other than during incessant contacts, 
and I'd agree. 40 in the afternoon, or most bands most any time are not 
crowded, except during the occasional appearance of a sort of rare one ... 
which is rare.

Grant NQ5T

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> 
> Not good to use at all,,, way too broad for
> crowded bands
> 
> , 
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Re: [Elecraft] OT - Neumann vs. Heil Michrophone

2016-07-04 Thread dmoes


No No  not K3 = Big Macits SSB and even AM audio in general  = Big 
Mac


David Moes
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Subject: Re: [Elecraft] OT - Neumann vs. Heil Michrophone
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I like your analogy. K3 = Big Mac.



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On Jul 4, 2016, at 7:31 PM, dm...@nexicom.net wrote:





Never understood why one would spend so much on a mic.  even AM or 
ESSB  a mic like that Neumann TLM 103  mic is way overkill its 
sort like drinking a Dom Perignon  with a Big Mac.   any reasonable 
sounding mic will have better audio than the best sounding SSB 
transmitter will need.







David Moes
VE3SD





--- Original message ---

Subject: [Elecraft] OT - Neumann vs. Heil Michrophone

From: David Ahrendts 

To: elecraft@mailman.qth.net 

Date: Monday, 04/07/2016  5:37 PM



I have my ESSB and AM higher fidelity hat on. Seeking opinions on the 
Heil PR 40 vs. the Neumann TLM 103.




David Ahrendts, KK6DA, Los Angeles







David Ahrendts   davidahren...@me.com









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Re: [Elecraft] R: OT - Neumann vs. Heil Michrophone

2016-07-04 Thread Gary
Some ops like bassy audio, it is really tough to understand the audio due to my 
damaged hearing so I don't call, added to ESSB further exacerbates the problem 
I have.

I have ESSB with a 2.8Khz bw and set for a "punchy" audio for when condx are 
tough, normally I use settings suggested by Jim K9YC and get unsolicited good 
audio reports.
With over 21,000 qso's in the log, I am happy with the settings.
Mic's used are cm500 Yamaha headset and occasionally the MH2 from Elecraft.
Anyone got an old, but working, Turner Plus 3 they have no use for?... Got a 
Nevada postal address for shipping
Gary

-Original Message-
From: "riese-k3...@juno.com" 
Sent: ‎5/‎07/‎2016 11:12 AM
To: "Elecraft@mailman.qth.net" 
Subject: Re: [Elecraft] R: OT - Neumann vs. Heil Michrophone


Not good to use at all,,, way too broad for
crowded bands

 , Bob K3DJC


On Mon, 4 Jul 2016 18:53:36 -0600 Ken G Kopp  writes:
> In the same category as gold-plated speaker wire. (;-0)
> 
> Kudos to Elecraft for limiting TX audio to 4 KHZ, regardless of 
> filter
> selection.
> 
> ESSB is an abomination on the amateur bands!
> 
> 73!
> 
> 
> K0PP

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Re: [Elecraft] R: OT - Neumann vs. Heil Michrophone

2016-07-04 Thread riese-k3djc

Not good to use at all,,, way too broad for
crowded bands

 , Bob K3DJC


On Mon, 4 Jul 2016 18:53:36 -0600 Ken G Kopp  writes:
> In the same category as gold-plated speaker wire. (;-0)
> 
> Kudos to Elecraft for limiting TX audio to 4 KHZ, regardless of 
> filter
> selection.
> 
> ESSB is an abomination on the amateur bands!
> 
> 73!
> 
> 
> K0PP

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Re: [Elecraft] R: OT - Neumann vs. Heil Michrophone

2016-07-04 Thread Gary
Ken,
Exactly.
Gary

-Original Message-
From: "Ken G Kopp" 
Sent: ‎5/‎07/‎2016 10:54 AM
To: "elecraft@mailman.qth.net" 
Subject: [Elecraft]  R: OT - Neumann vs. Heil Michrophone

In the same category as gold-plated speaker wire. (;-0)

Kudos to Elecraft for limiting TX audio to 4 KHZ, regardless of filter
selection.

ESSB is an abomination on the amateur bands!

73!


K0PP


On Jul 4, 2016 5:09 PM, "Jim Brown"  wrote:

> On Mon,7/4/2016 2:43 PM, glcazz...@alice.it wrote:
>
>> It seem to me too much for an ham radio station.
>>
>
> Wretched excess. Comes under the heading of a fool and his money are
> easily separated. :) I own about a dozen Neumann mics that I use for
> recording. I use a Yamaha CM500 in my ham station.
>
> 73, Jim K9YC
>
>
>
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[Elecraft] R: OT - Neumann vs. Heil Michrophone

2016-07-04 Thread Ken G Kopp
In the same category as gold-plated speaker wire. (;-0)

Kudos to Elecraft for limiting TX audio to 4 KHZ, regardless of filter
selection.

ESSB is an abomination on the amateur bands!

73!


K0PP


On Jul 4, 2016 5:09 PM, "Jim Brown"  wrote:

> On Mon,7/4/2016 2:43 PM, glcazz...@alice.it wrote:
>
>> It seem to me too much for an ham radio station.
>>
>
> Wretched excess. Comes under the heading of a fool and his money are
> easily separated. :) I own about a dozen Neumann mics that I use for
> recording. I use a Yamaha CM500 in my ham station.
>
> 73, Jim K9YC
>
>
>
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Re: [Elecraft] OT - Neumann vs. Heil Michrophone

2016-07-04 Thread dmoes


Never understood why one would spend so much on a mic.  even AM or 
ESSB  a mic like that Neumann TLM 103  mic is way overkill its 
sort like drinking a Dom Perignon  with a Big Mac.   any reasonable 
sounding mic will have better audio than the best sounding SSB 
transmitter will need.







David Moes
VE3SD




--- Original message ---
Subject: [Elecraft] OT - Neumann vs. Heil Michrophone
From: David Ahrendts 
To: elecraft@mailman.qth.net 
Date: Monday, 04/07/2016  5:37 PM

I have my ESSB and AM higher fidelity hat on. Seeking opinions on the 
Heil PR 40 vs. the Neumann TLM 103.


David Ahrendts, KK6DA, Los Angeles



David Ahrendts   davidahren...@me.com




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Re: [Elecraft] Panadapters for a MM station using 4 K3s

2016-07-04 Thread Alan Bloom
The P3 does have a noise blanker, which works well on impulse-type 
noise.  It allows you to see more-or-less the same signals that the K3 
sees when its own noise blanker is turned on.


Alan N1AL


On 07/04/2016 08:46 AM, Don Wilhelm wrote:

John,

NaP3 can play through the computer speakers to act as a 2nd receiver
(but there will be latency dependent on the computer). That is where the
NaP3 NB is useful.

I do not understand that a NB function would be valuable on the spectrum
display.  I want to see the noise sources that may interfere with my
reception just the same as I want to see the signals on the band.

73,
Don W3FPR

On 7/4/2016 11:31 AM, John Stengrevics wrote:

Don,

LP-PAN advertises noise reduction.  Does the P3 do similar?

John
WA1EAZ

Sent from my iPhone


On Jul 4, 2016, at 11:27 AM, Don Wilhelm  wrote:

Bill,

The least frustration route is to use the P3 with the SVGA option
(and perhaps the TXMON option).

Certainly the LP-Pan/NaP3 or Win4K3 route will be less expensive, but
requires getting the applications working right on the computer.

So the tradeoff is between using the hardware solution of the P3 vs.
using LP-Pan/NaP3 which involves computer setup of the soundcard and
all the attendant frustration that comes with getting everything to
play together.

If I had a MM station, I would go for the P3, but if you have enough
patience to work with the LP-Pan?NaP3 solution, the end result will
be similar.

73,
Don W3FPR


On 7/4/2016 8:25 AM, Bill OMara via Elecraft wrote:
I'm looking for some input on the best and most cost effective way
to add
panadapters to my MM contest station with four K3's.

I currently have one of the four station outfitted with a LP PAN2
and NaP3
SW and it works fine with the internal sound card with 48Khz bandwidth.


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Re: [Elecraft] R: OT - Neumann vs. Heil Michrophone

2016-07-04 Thread Jim Brown

On Mon,7/4/2016 2:43 PM, glcazz...@alice.it wrote:

It seem to me too much for an ham radio station.


Wretched excess. Comes under the heading of a fool and his money are 
easily separated. :) I own about a dozen Neumann mics that I use for 
recording. I use a Yamaha CM500 in my ham station.


73, Jim K9YC

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[Elecraft] R: OT - Neumann vs. Heil Michrophone

2016-07-04 Thread glcazzola
The Neumann are the top of studio microphones, the best of the best. Used also 
on radio diffusions.
It seem to me too much for an ham radio station. But if you can buy it, it is 
sure a greatest microphone!
Ian IK4EWX

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I have my ESSB and AM higher fidelity hat on. Seeking opinions on the Heil PR 
40 vs. the Neumann TLM 103.

David Ahrendts, KK6DA, Los Angeles



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[Elecraft] OT - Neumann vs. Heil Michrophone

2016-07-04 Thread David Ahrendts
I have my ESSB and AM higher fidelity hat on. Seeking opinions on the Heil PR 
40 vs. the Neumann TLM 103.

David Ahrendts, KK6DA, Los Angeles



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[Elecraft] HD Monitor for P3 SBGA

2016-07-04 Thread Dauer, Edward
Another possibility is an SVGA switch.  Many are available at $15 or so, some 
of them attractive enough for the desktop.

I use a single Dell 19”, using a SVGA cable to the DB15 on the switch box, one 
input from the SVGA output of the P3 and the other through an Apple cable from 
the thunderbolt output of the computer.  (I assume on a PC you could use a 
USB-to-SVGA converter.)  I was unable to find a monitor I liked that had 
built-in front-panel switching.  The switch box works beautifully, and doesn’t 
result in pushing the monitor around when the input is switched.

It does add one more cable to the collection.  But in my station, one more 
isn’t even a rounding digit.

Ted, KN1CBR

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Date: Mon, 4 Jul 2016 02:27:58 -0700 (MST)
From: Mike K2MK 
To: elecraft@mailman.qth.net
Subject: Re: [Elecraft] Please recommend an HD monitor to use with
P3SVGA
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Hi Doug,

•  *  *

Consider getting a monitor that can also serve as a second monitor for your
PC. Most monitors today have multiple inputs. A few years ago that would
have been SVGA and DVI. Later it became SVGA and HDMI. Now you might also
find SVGA, DVI, and HDMI. But that's not the whole story. You want to make
sure that you can change the monitor with a push-button at the bottom of the
monitor. Some monitors require that you go into the monitor program
settings. That would be much less convenient.

* * *

73,
Mike K2MK




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[Elecraft] KPOD

2016-07-04 Thread Tom Morehouse
Received my KPOD on Thursday, but just hooked it up today.  First item: you 
must have beta firmware 5.50 installed for it to work.   item two: manual 
states that you must have K3 Utility Program rev 1.16.3.11 to store macros 
9-16.  I couldn’t find any utility later than 1.15.6.27.  Must be coming soon

73 and happy Fourth!

Tom K4AEN
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Re: [Elecraft] Panadapters for a MM station using 4 K3s

2016-07-04 Thread Don Wilhelm

LP-Pan and NaP3 cannot change the audio output of the K3.
The audio output that can be changed is only the audio from the computer.

The K3 has NR and NB capabilities that can do the same thing for the K3 
audio output, just choose the most effective parameters of the K3 NR and 
NB for the task at hand.


73,
Don W3FPR

On 7/4/2016 11:57 AM, John Stengrevics wrote:

Don,

I was looking at the LP-PAN YouTube video where they demonstrated noise 
reduction that made weak dx signals audible on the K3S where they were not 
audible without the LP-PAN.  Is this really the case?



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Re: [Elecraft] Elecraft K3S USB to Key Transceiver

2016-07-04 Thread Gene N4FZ
With HRD, I have set the k3's PTT KEY to RTS-DTR. With N1MM, I set the K3 to
RTS-DTR as well, and in the program, I set DTR to CW, and RTS to PTT. Hope
this helps.  Gene N4FZ



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Re: [Elecraft] Please recommend an HD monitor to use with P3SVGA

2016-07-04 Thread Jim Brown

On Mon,7/4/2016 2:27 AM, Mike K2MK wrote:

The problem with recommending a model number is that within a year of
purchasing a monitor it is usually superceded by a different model.


Yes. A year or two ago, I discovered a 24-in Samsung at Costco that runs 
from a nominal 14VDC wall wart. It's an SMPS and noisy, but because it's 
14VDC, it's easy to replace with a 12VDC linear wall wart or run from 
your shack 12-14VDC power supply. To figure out what power the monitor 
requires, study their spec sheet carefully and also blown-up photos of 
the rear panel (you may need to get to the mfr website).



With two large monitors on a desk it's also worth considering adjustable
monitor support arms. They let you situate the monitors for best viewing
heights and angles without taking up valuable desk surface for your
equipment.


More great advice. I've found mounts like this at amazon. A double-arm 
mount that clamps onto a horizontal surface and places monitors 
side-by-side cost me about $70; another that places one above the other 
about the same price. And there's a company called "monoprice" that 
sells a single arm for about $50.


The tricky part about using these mounts is that they are designed to be 
used with a monitor that accepts a VESA mounting plate. Not all monitors 
have that (four screw threads at a certain spacing), but there's also a 
"garage" operation that makes mounts that retrofit some models of 
Samsung monitors. All found on the internet.


Another issue in choosing a monitor is RFI, which can be from the SMPS 
wall wart, AND from the monitor itself. W4UAT gave me a different 
Samsung model that had touch controls that had awful RFI problems -- his 
TX made the monitor go huts, and it put out lots of RF noise that I 
could not kill.


The Samsung monitors I bought are not completely clean, but can be made 
clean enough that I can't hear them in my antennas by choking their 
video and power cables.


73, Jim K9YC

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[Elecraft] Panadapters for a MM station using 4 K3s

2016-07-04 Thread Luther Phillips
Bill, if you do CW contesting, then you will want to add CW Skimmer to the 
software lineup as well. I use the following setup for CW contesting:


K3s IF out to LP-Pan
LP-Pan I/Q out to Asus U5 USB card
U5 USB to PC; use MME audio driver, which allows feeding the audio to 
multiple programs


Software setup:
LP-Bridge connects to K3s serial port & provides multiple virtual serial 
ports

NaP3 for wide-band view, connects to U5 audio & K3s via LP-Bridge
CW Skimmer, connects to U5 audio & K3s via LP-Bridge
Either WriteLog or N1MM+ for logging, connects to K3s via LP-Bridge
Set CW Skimmer to send spots to Telenet/localhost
Connect logging software spots/band map to localhost

This provides point & click capability for your logging program, and the 
main advantage is that no spots appear on the bandmap unless you are 
actually hearing them.


If you don't do CW tests, then there is no need for CW Skimmer. I'm sure 
you're already aware of  NaP3's ability to show spots on the pan display 
from any spot server you connect to. This is another big advantage for 
contesting over using a P3. Of course, the logging software can show spots 
on its band map as well.


The PC configuration is also something you will need to consider. From my 
experience, the minimum desktop-type computer needed to run all the above 
software is a Intel Core-2 Duo with 4 GB ram. Intel i3 thu i7's will run at 
lower CPU loads, and if you are using laptops, i3's with at least 4GB ram 
are probably the minimum.


I have been eyeing the small fanless "brick" mini-PC's that are available 
from several vendors as something that could be used as a shack/contesting 
PC. They are made using laptop boards, and utilize the aluminum case as a 
heatsink. A complete i5 can be had with 4 GB ram and a small SSD drive for 
about $300, but do not include a Windows license.


Another option that I don't have any experience with, but would be cheaper 
to implement, would be to use the SDR-Play SDR receiver to look at the IF 
output from the K3s. I do not know if the SDR-Play can be used in 
conjunction with NaP3, CW Skimmer, or contest loggers. You might check 
around on some of the Kenwood TS-590 info pages or forums, as the SDR-Play 
seems to be a popular method of providing a panadapter for the TS-590.


Hope this is of some help.
73,
Luther N4UW 


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Re: [Elecraft] Panadapters for a MM station using 4 K3s

2016-07-04 Thread John Stengrevics
Don, 

I was looking at the LP-PAN YouTube video where they demonstrated noise 
reduction that made weak dx signals audible on the K3S where they were not 
audible without the LP-PAN.  Is this really the case?

John
WA1EAZ

Sent from my iPhone

> On Jul 4, 2016, at 11:46 AM, Don Wilhelm  wrote:
> 
> John,
> 
> NaP3 can play through the computer speakers to act as a 2nd receiver (but 
> there will be latency dependent on the computer). That is where the NaP3 NB 
> is useful.
> 
> I do not understand that a NB function would be valuable on the spectrum 
> display.  I want to see the noise sources that may interfere with my 
> reception just the same as I want to see the signals on the band.
> 
> 73,
> Don W3FPR
> 
>> On 7/4/2016 11:31 AM, John Stengrevics wrote:
>> Don,
>> 
>> LP-PAN advertises noise reduction.  Does the P3 do similar?
>> 
>> John
>> WA1EAZ
>> 
>> Sent from my iPhone
>> 
>>> On Jul 4, 2016, at 11:27 AM, Don Wilhelm  wrote:
>>> 
>>> Bill,
>>> 
>>> The least frustration route is to use the P3 with the SVGA option (and 
>>> perhaps the TXMON option).
>>> 
>>> Certainly the LP-Pan/NaP3 or Win4K3 route will be less expensive, but 
>>> requires getting the applications working right on the computer.
>>> 
>>> So the tradeoff is between using the hardware solution of the P3 vs. using 
>>> LP-Pan/NaP3 which involves computer setup of the soundcard and all the 
>>> attendant frustration that comes with getting everything to play together.
>>> 
>>> If I had a MM station, I would go for the P3, but if you have enough 
>>> patience to work with the LP-Pan?NaP3 solution, the end result will be 
>>> similar.
>>> 
>>> 73,
>>> Don W3FPR
>>> 
 On 7/4/2016 8:25 AM, Bill OMara via Elecraft wrote:
 I'm looking for some input on the best and most cost effective way to add
 panadapters to my MM contest station with four K3's.
 
 I currently have one of the four station outfitted with a LP PAN2 and NaP3
 SW and it works fine with the internal sound card with 48Khz bandwidth.
 
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Re: [Elecraft] Panadapters for a MM station using 4 K3s

2016-07-04 Thread Don Wilhelm

John,

NaP3 can play through the computer speakers to act as a 2nd receiver 
(but there will be latency dependent on the computer). That is where the 
NaP3 NB is useful.


I do not understand that a NB function would be valuable on the spectrum 
display.  I want to see the noise sources that may interfere with my 
reception just the same as I want to see the signals on the band.


73,
Don W3FPR

On 7/4/2016 11:31 AM, John Stengrevics wrote:

Don,

LP-PAN advertises noise reduction.  Does the P3 do similar?

John
WA1EAZ

Sent from my iPhone


On Jul 4, 2016, at 11:27 AM, Don Wilhelm  wrote:

Bill,

The least frustration route is to use the P3 with the SVGA option (and perhaps 
the TXMON option).

Certainly the LP-Pan/NaP3 or Win4K3 route will be less expensive, but requires 
getting the applications working right on the computer.

So the tradeoff is between using the hardware solution of the P3 vs. using 
LP-Pan/NaP3 which involves computer setup of the soundcard and all the 
attendant frustration that comes with getting everything to play together.

If I had a MM station, I would go for the P3, but if you have enough patience 
to work with the LP-Pan?NaP3 solution, the end result will be similar.

73,
Don W3FPR


On 7/4/2016 8:25 AM, Bill OMara via Elecraft wrote:
I'm looking for some input on the best and most cost effective way to add
panadapters to my MM contest station with four K3's.

I currently have one of the four station outfitted with a LP PAN2 and NaP3
SW and it works fine with the internal sound card with 48Khz bandwidth.


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Re: [Elecraft] Panadapters for a MM station using 4 K3s

2016-07-04 Thread John Stengrevics
Don,

LP-PAN advertises noise reduction.  Does the P3 do similar?

John
WA1EAZ

Sent from my iPhone

> On Jul 4, 2016, at 11:27 AM, Don Wilhelm  wrote:
> 
> Bill,
> 
> The least frustration route is to use the P3 with the SVGA option (and 
> perhaps the TXMON option).
> 
> Certainly the LP-Pan/NaP3 or Win4K3 route will be less expensive, but 
> requires getting the applications working right on the computer.
> 
> So the tradeoff is between using the hardware solution of the P3 vs. using 
> LP-Pan/NaP3 which involves computer setup of the soundcard and all the 
> attendant frustration that comes with getting everything to play together.
> 
> If I had a MM station, I would go for the P3, but if you have enough patience 
> to work with the LP-Pan?NaP3 solution, the end result will be similar.
> 
> 73,
> Don W3FPR
> 
>> On 7/4/2016 8:25 AM, Bill OMara via Elecraft wrote:
>> I'm looking for some input on the best and most cost effective way to add
>> panadapters to my MM contest station with four K3's.
>> 
>> I currently have one of the four station outfitted with a LP PAN2 and NaP3
>> SW and it works fine with the internal sound card with 48Khz bandwidth.
>> 
> 
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Re: [Elecraft] Panadapters for a MM station using 4 K3s

2016-07-04 Thread Don Wilhelm

Bill,

The least frustration route is to use the P3 with the SVGA option (and 
perhaps the TXMON option).


Certainly the LP-Pan/NaP3 or Win4K3 route will be less expensive, but 
requires getting the applications working right on the computer.


So the tradeoff is between using the hardware solution of the P3 vs. 
using LP-Pan/NaP3 which involves computer setup of the soundcard and all 
the attendant frustration that comes with getting everything to play 
together.


If I had a MM station, I would go for the P3, but if you have enough 
patience to work with the LP-Pan?NaP3 solution, the end result will be 
similar.


73,
Don W3FPR

On 7/4/2016 8:25 AM, Bill OMara via Elecraft wrote:

I'm looking for some input on the best and most cost effective way to add
panadapters to my MM contest station with four K3's.

I currently have one of the four station outfitted with a LP PAN2 and NaP3
SW and it works fine with the internal sound card with 48Khz bandwidth.



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Re: [Elecraft] Panadapters for a MM station using 4 K3s

2016-07-04 Thread Kevin

I would go the LP-Pan2 or good SDR route simply from a cost perspective.

Price a P3+SVGA+Dedicated monitor x 4 vs. LP-Pan/SDR route.

LP-Pan runs on the computer I assume you've already got for logging. If 
you want you can upgrade the sound system relatively inexpensively to an 
outboard USB solution like  ASUS Xonar U7 or the Steinberg UR22 for more 
bandwidth, 192KHz.


NaP3 is free, Win4K3 Suite is not but it's the Swiss Army knife of 
K3(s)/KX3 management software.



On 7/4/2016 7:25 AM, Bill OMara via Elecraft wrote:

I sent this message this before the Dayton Hamfest and with all the traffic
on the New KX2 and the KPod I didn't receive but two replies, so I'm going
to try again to see if I can't determine the best path forward.

  


I'm leaning away from the P3 and more towards a SDR or LP Pan approach.

  


Thanks for your ideas and help

  


73 Bill  W4RM

  


I'm looking for some input on the best and most cost effective way to add
panadapters to my MM contest station with four K3's.

  


I currently have one of the four station outfitted with a LP PAN2 and NaP3
SW and it works fine with the internal sound card with 48Khz bandwidth.

  


I would like to find a standard solution at a reasonable price (Per Station)
for all stations.

  


I just want to hear some ideas so I don't go down the wrong road X 4.

  


Thanks for your input in advance.

  


73 Bill  W4RM

  


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Re: [Elecraft] Help sell me on the K3S

2016-07-04 Thread dmoes
‎To put it simply. Ive had a K3 for many years.   And have kept up to date with 
what is available.  Looked at Flex. Icom Hilberling. Etc   The only Rig I would 
consider trading my K3 for would be  a K3s.   


  Original Message  
From: Wes Stewart
Sent: Monday, July 4, 2016 9:59 AM
To: elecraft@mailman.qth.net
Subject: Re: [Elecraft] Help sell me on the K3S

Even Rob will tell you that one number does not a radio make.

Personally, for the most bang for the buck, I would be looking at one of the 
many non-S K3s that guys like me who have upgraded to a K3S are now offering 
for 
sale. I'm allowing mine to gather dust on the floor, because I've found from 
experience that it is best to have a spare, but others are out there. 
Performance wise, unless you put them side-by-side, on the same antenna, 
(something I haven't bother to do) or work six-meters, you probably wouldn't 
know the difference.

Wes N7WS


On 7/3/2016 10:46 PM, Richard Fjeld wrote:
> Reuben,
> I think Rob Sherwood answers this question best with his receiver ratings. 
> Google Sherwood labs.
> Dick, n0ce
>
>
> On 7/3/2016 4:44 PM, Reuben Popp wrote:
>> Hey everyone, happy early 4th to you and yours!
>>
>> I'm looking for a bit on input here. I've had my K2 now for quite some
>> time now; built it myself and love it still to this day. But, because
>> every guy and gal needs a new radio every now and then, I've got that itch.
>>
>> I've had my eye on a K3 probably since I first saw the advertisement in QST
>> some years back. I'm not a contester.. heck, I *still* don't have my
>> ticket, so my main use is SWL and running up and down the bands to listen
>> in on some of the nets. My antenna is just a half size G5RV slung along
>> the apex of my roof but I've wanted to get my hands on the K3... that
>> is until now.
>>
>> In the past week I found out about the Icom 7300, which for all intents and
>> purposes is one heck of a nifty radio too. And at $500 less than what the
>> 10W K3S. That's a nice chunk of cheddar in these days and times, doubly so
>> as Popp #2 will be arriving here come September (on my birthday no less,
>> hah). The downsides are (at least to me) is that there's little in the way
>> for adding on new features to the set short of via software updates.
>> There's no second antenna option, etc, etc.
>>
>> Granted, I'm not looking at getting either one anytime in the immediate
>> future. Or, if I miraculously get one somehow, something is seriously
>> wrong, and someone has replaced my XYL with the Stepford model... come
>> please make sure I'm okay, lol. But in all seriousness, help me decide
>> here. Which is the better bang for the buck in the long run? I'm willing
>> to bet that this will be the last rig I get for quite some time yet, so I
>> had best make it count.
>>
>> Thanks in advance to all and 73
>> Reuben
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Re: [Elecraft] Help sell me on the K3S

2016-07-04 Thread Wes Stewart

Even Rob will tell you that one number does not a radio make.

Personally, for the most bang for the buck, I would be looking at one of the 
many non-S K3s that guys like me who have upgraded to a K3S are now offering for 
sale.  I'm allowing mine to gather dust on the floor, because I've found from 
experience that it is best to have a spare, but others are out there.  
Performance wise, unless you put them side-by-side, on the same antenna, 
(something I haven't bother to do) or work six-meters, you probably wouldn't 
know the difference.


Wes  N7WS


On 7/3/2016 10:46 PM, Richard Fjeld wrote:

Reuben,
I think Rob Sherwood answers this question best with his receiver ratings. 
Google Sherwood labs.

Dick, n0ce


On 7/3/2016 4:44 PM, Reuben Popp wrote:

Hey everyone, happy early 4th to you and yours!

I'm looking for a bit on input here.  I've had my K2 now for quite some
time now; built it myself and love it still to this day.  But, because
every guy and gal needs a new radio every now and then, I've got that itch.

I've had my eye on a K3 probably since I first saw the advertisement in QST
some years back.  I'm not a contester.. heck, I *still* don't have my
ticket, so my main use is SWL and running up and down the bands to listen
in on some of the nets.  My antenna is just a half size G5RV slung along
the apex of my roof but I've wanted to get my hands on the K3... that
is until now.

In the past week I found out about the Icom 7300, which for all intents and
purposes is one heck of a nifty radio too.  And at $500 less than what the
10W K3S.  That's a nice chunk of cheddar in these days and times, doubly so
as Popp #2 will be arriving here come September (on my birthday no less,
hah).  The downsides are (at least to me) is that there's little in the way
for adding on new features to the set short of via software updates.
There's no second antenna option, etc, etc.

Granted, I'm not looking at getting either one anytime in the immediate
future.  Or, if I miraculously get one somehow, something is seriously
wrong, and someone has replaced my XYL with the Stepford model... come
please make sure I'm okay, lol.  But in all seriousness, help me decide
here.  Which is the better bang for the buck in the long run? I'm willing
to bet that this will be the last rig I get for quite some time yet, so I
had best make it count.

Thanks in advance to all and 73
Reuben
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[Elecraft] Panadapters for a MM station using 4 K3s

2016-07-04 Thread Bill OMara via Elecraft
I sent this message this before the Dayton Hamfest and with all the traffic
on the New KX2 and the KPod I didn't receive but two replies, so I'm going
to try again to see if I can't determine the best path forward.

 

I'm leaning away from the P3 and more towards a SDR or LP Pan approach.

 

Thanks for your ideas and help

 

73 Bill  W4RM

 

I'm looking for some input on the best and most cost effective way to add
panadapters to my MM contest station with four K3's.

 

I currently have one of the four station outfitted with a LP PAN2 and NaP3
SW and it works fine with the internal sound card with 48Khz bandwidth.

 

I would like to find a standard solution at a reasonable price (Per Station)
for all stations.

 

I just want to hear some ideas so I don't go down the wrong road X 4.

 

Thanks for your input in advance.

 

73 Bill  W4RM

 

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Re: [Elecraft] Please recommend an HD monitor to use with P3SVGA

2016-07-04 Thread David Bunte
I realize this is off the topic of which monitor to get, but multiple
monitors do take up more space.  The idea of mounting a monitor, or
monitors on arms does address the issue of desk space, but I decided
against that due to the cost issue, and those arms still need to be mounted
on something.

My solution was VERY much less expensive.  I made sure my monitors were
VESA mount capable.  I then mounted them to the wall directly in front of
me.  Yes, I put about three holes in the wall to mount an angle bracket to
the wall.  I then screwed another angled bracket to the back of each
monitor and they then 'hang' on the bracket that I attached to the wall.
The result is that the monitors are at the exact same height, and mine are
pushed together so they touch.

I know that no solution is perfect for every person or situation, but many
people who have seen pictures of my shack have asked how I got two monitors
to stay so perfectly aligned in relation to each other, and still have room
on my small desk for my K3, KPA500, P3 etc.

73 de Dave  K9FN

On Mon, Jul 4, 2016 at 5:27 AM, Mike K2MK  wrote:

> Hi Doug,
>
> The problem with recommending a model number is that within a year of
> purchasing a monitor it is usually superceded by a different model. I do
> have some suggestions that you might not have considered.
>
> Consider getting a monitor that can also serve as a second monitor for your
> PC. Most monitors today have multiple inputs. A few years ago that would
> have been SVGA and DVI. Later it became SVGA and HDMI. Now you might also
> find SVGA, DVI, and HDMI. But that's not the whole story. You want to make
> sure that you can change the monitor with a push-button at the bottom of
> the
> monitor. Some monitors require that you go into the monitor program
> settings. That would be much less convenient.
>
> When I'm using the P3 I'll push the monitor button to go into SVGA. When
> the
> P3 is off the monitor automatically switches back to the DVI input thus
> acting as a secondary monitor output from my PC.
>
> Typical 22" monitors can display the 1440 x 900 from the P3 quite nicely.
> Of
> my ASUS and ViewSonic low-cost monitors I prefer the ViewSonic. The colors
> are more realistic. The ASUS adjustments don't seem capable of getting the
> softer colors I'm interested in. My ViewSonic model number is VA2265smh.
> The
> ASUS is model number VS228H-P.
>
> With two large monitors on a desk it's also worth considering adjustable
> monitor support arms. They let you situate the monitors for best viewing
> heights and angles without taking up valuable desk surface for your
> equipment.
>
> 73,
> Mike K2MK
>
>
>
> Doug Hensley wrote
> > Subject says it all.  Looking for a clear recommendation for
> >
> > a decent monitor that will last.  Also what is too small and
> >
> > what is too big and so a waste of room?
> >
> > One side of me tells me anything that will display text well
> >
> > will display the P3 signal but another side tells me "Don't
> >
> > assume !!).
> >
> > Please respond in private if you'd like.
> >
> > Thank you.
> >
> > Doug W5JV
>
>
>
>
>
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Re: [Elecraft] Help sell me on the K3S

2016-07-04 Thread a45wg
Reuben,
If you do not need Tx - why not just go for a high end SDR Rx. Lots of 
really good products out there at the moment - and being SDR easy to upgrade 
with software etc. You will need to budget for a decent computer and maybe an 
external sound card - but also an option to consider IMHO.

You are not really going to get an un-biased opinion asking a question 
like that here… nor would you on the Icom forums

regards

Tim A45WG

> On 4 Jul 2016, at 09:46, Richard Fjeld  wrote:
> 
> Reuben,
> I think Rob Sherwood answers this question best with his receiver ratings. 
> Google Sherwood labs.
> Dick, n0ce
> 
> 
> On 7/3/2016 4:44 PM, Reuben Popp wrote:
>> Hey everyone, happy early 4th to you and yours!
>> 
>> I'm looking for a bit on input here.  I've had my K2 now for quite some
>> time now; built it myself and love it still to this day.  But, because
>> every guy and gal needs a new radio every now and then, I've got that itch.
>> 
>> I've had my eye on a K3 probably since I first saw the advertisement in QST
>> some years back.  I'm not a contester.. heck, I *still* don't have my
>> ticket, so my main use is SWL and running up and down the bands to listen
>> in on some of the nets.  My antenna is just a half size G5RV slung along
>> the apex of my roof but I've wanted to get my hands on the K3... that
>> is until now.
>> 
>> In the past week I found out about the Icom 7300, which for all intents and
>> purposes is one heck of a nifty radio too.  And at $500 less than what the
>> 10W K3S.  That's a nice chunk of cheddar in these days and times, doubly so
>> as Popp #2 will be arriving here come September (on my birthday no less,
>> hah).  The downsides are (at least to me) is that there's little in the way
>> for adding on new features to the set short of via software updates.
>> There's no second antenna option, etc, etc.
>> 
>> Granted, I'm not looking at getting either one anytime in the immediate
>> future.  Or, if I miraculously get one somehow, something is seriously
>> wrong, and someone has replaced my XYL with the Stepford model... come
>> please make sure I'm okay, lol.  But in all seriousness, help me decide
>> here.  Which is the better bang for the buck in the long run?  I'm willing
>> to bet that this will be the last rig I get for quite some time yet, so I
>> had best make it count.
>> 
>> Thanks in advance to all and 73
>> Reuben
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Re: [Elecraft] Please recommend an HD monitor to use with P3SVGA

2016-07-04 Thread Mike K2MK
Hi Doug,

The problem with recommending a model number is that within a year of
purchasing a monitor it is usually superceded by a different model. I do
have some suggestions that you might not have considered.

Consider getting a monitor that can also serve as a second monitor for your
PC. Most monitors today have multiple inputs. A few years ago that would
have been SVGA and DVI. Later it became SVGA and HDMI. Now you might also
find SVGA, DVI, and HDMI. But that's not the whole story. You want to make
sure that you can change the monitor with a push-button at the bottom of the
monitor. Some monitors require that you go into the monitor program
settings. That would be much less convenient.

When I'm using the P3 I'll push the monitor button to go into SVGA. When the
P3 is off the monitor automatically switches back to the DVI input thus
acting as a secondary monitor output from my PC.

Typical 22" monitors can display the 1440 x 900 from the P3 quite nicely. Of
my ASUS and ViewSonic low-cost monitors I prefer the ViewSonic. The colors
are more realistic. The ASUS adjustments don't seem capable of getting the
softer colors I'm interested in. My ViewSonic model number is VA2265smh. The
ASUS is model number VS228H-P.

With two large monitors on a desk it's also worth considering adjustable
monitor support arms. They let you situate the monitors for best viewing
heights and angles without taking up valuable desk surface for your
equipment.

73,
Mike K2MK



Doug Hensley wrote
> Subject says it all.  Looking for a clear recommendation for
> 
> a decent monitor that will last.  Also what is too small and
> 
> what is too big and so a waste of room?
> 
> One side of me tells me anything that will display text well
> 
> will display the P3 signal but another side tells me "Don't
> 
> assume !!).
> 
> Please respond in private if you'd like.
> 
> Thank you.
> 
> Doug W5JV





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[Elecraft] K3 dead

2016-07-04 Thread Juha - oh6os
Help!

I was using K3 as monitor when I measure signal path on my Drake R4C. Now K3
don't receive. Antenna tuner works, but without tuner big SWR. I think there
was high voltage (abt 140V) on ANT2. What is the first place I must check?

K3, KPA3 100W, KAT3 ATU, KBPF3...

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