Re: [Elecraft] FS W2 Wattmeter HF + VHF/UHF couplers [updated]

[Cliff Frescura]

The DCV/U-200 has been sold.  W2 with HF coupler still available.

Thanks,

Cliff K3LL/6

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Frescura
Sent: Wednesday, September 16, 2020 8:47 AM
To: elecraft@mailman.qth.net
Subject: [Elecraft] FS W2 Wattmeter HF + VHF/UHF couplers

I have for sale:

1. W2 wattmeter with DCHF-2000 1.8 - 54 MHz 2KW coupler, coupler cable, and 
power cable
(power pole end).  Modified to turn on when power is applied: $285 
2. DCV/U-200 144 MHz - 450 MHz 200W coupler with coupler cable (coupler only): 
$90

W2 with both couplers : $350

Pictures available upon request.

ConUS shipping included via USPS Priority mail.  Payment via PayPal or Zelle.  
No returns.

Please reply off list.

73,

Cliff K3LL/6



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[Elecraft] FS W2 Wattmeter HF + VHF/UHF couplers

[Cliff Frescura]

I have for sale:

1. W2 wattmeter with DCHF-2000 1.8 - 54 MHz 2KW coupler, coupler cable, and 
power cable
(power pole end).  Modified to turn on when power is applied: $285 
2. DCV/U-200 144 MHz - 450 MHz 200W coupler with coupler cable (coupler only): 
$90

W2 with both couplers : $350

Pictures available upon request.

ConUS shipping included via USPS Priority mail.  Payment via PayPal or Zelle.  
No returns.

Please reply off list.

73,

Cliff K3LL/6



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Re: [Elecraft] Elecraft business practices - more info

[Cliff Frescura]

Being in the payments industry, I can tell you that most of these policies
are driven by the card brands (Visa, MasterCard, etc.), certifying bodies
(PCI, EMVCo) as well as the payment gateways.  It is a very complicated
chain with many rules.

The shopping cart either does an immediate charge or what is called a
"pre-auth" where it holds the funds but does not transfer them yet.  If and
when they decide to actually charge the card, then a complete/post-auth is
issued.  The catch is that if a pre-auth is issued it will reverse
automatically if no complete/post-auth is issued, usually within 24 hours.
So the only practical choice is to charge the card.

The alternative is for the shopping cart to get a card token from the
gateway that it can store and retrieve for later payment.  It is verboten to
store clear text card numbers, in any media: computer, post it note, etc.
When the order is shipped, operations tells the shopping cart software to go
ahead and charge against the card token.  In this scenario it would be best
practice to the shopping cart software to also delete the token and
associated card data from the payment gateway, unless the cardholder
explicitly opted in to save card info.

This is not an Elecraft only issue.  Payments are very complicated and
challenging for many merchants.  Fundamental reasons are for risk reduction
(for all stakeholders) and security.

73,

Cliff K3LL

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From: elecraft-boun...@mailman.qth.net
[mailto:elecraft-boun...@mailman.qth.net] On Behalf Of Lou Voerman W2ROW
Sent: Wednesday, February 13, 2019 1:27 PM
To: elecraft@mailman.qth.net
Subject: [Elecraft] Elecraft business practices - more info

I heard from Elecraft Sales and will attempt to communicate what I was told.

Sales is using a new shopping cart platform which allows them limited time
to capture payment information. As a result, it seems that they are unable
to defer payment in the case of a backorder, so orders are charged
immediately (as was the case for the two orders I placed recently). 

They said that they are testing a new application which will allow deferring
payment until actual ship time. The target for this application to be
implemented is next month. In the mean time they said they will add a refund
offer to the notifications they send to customers when a backorder occurs.

I am generally satisfied with this explanation but would have liked to have
told in advance.

Again, I have been a loyal and satisfied Elecraft customer for many years
and am not attempting to in any way talk anyone out of doing business with
them. I was surprised when my credit card was charged twice before shipment
was projected to occur and now I have more knowledge.

Thanks,
Lou





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Re: [Elecraft] Franklin antennas

[Cliff Frescura]

A bit of trivia...

When the antenna/tower at KDKA was replaced in 1994, the legs of the old 
antenna were cut into thin cross sections, encased in clear plastic with a 
station medallion and sold for charity to Children's Hospital of Pittsburgh 
during their annual Christmas Fundraiser.  It's a nice conversation piece.

73,

Cliff K3LL/6 

-Original Message-
From: elecraft-boun...@mailman.qth.net 
[mailto:elecraft-boun...@mailman.qth.net] On Behalf Of Gmail
Sent: Tuesday, September 11, 2018 4:24 PM
To: elecraft@mailman.qth.net
Subject: [Elecraft] Franklin antennas

KDKA, Pittsburgh, still has a Franklin, they are not a center fed vertical.  
both the bottom and top sections are end fed. The purpose is to lower angle of 
radiation and reduce skywave and selective fading.  KDKA has a motorized 
capacitor on the top section.  Both stations have extensive ground systems that 
would not be needed if they were dipoles. 
KDs antenna was replaced in 1994. Still a Franklin as changing the antenna 
would have required a power reduction with the “ratchet rule”.
Ray
W8LYJ
Formerly with Group W Engineering, owner of both stations until recently. 

http://www.durenberger.com/documents/KDKANEWTOWER.pdf
Sent from my iPad

> 
> 
> Message: 1
> Date: Sun, 9 Sep 2018 15:48:48 -0700
> From: Fred Jensen 
> To: elecraft@mailman.qth.net
> Subject: Re: [Elecraft] ARRL book on receiving antennas
> Message-ID: 
> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8; format=flowed
> 
> Yes, very straightforward theory.? Just gather all the watts actually 
> radiated by the antenna and divide it by the watts you put into Rr.? 
> Unfortunately, I did not really address Bob's question ... "How do you 
> sweep up all those watts?" :-)? That is a nearly intractable problem at 
> HF unless you'll tolerate significant inaccuracies and assumptions.? 
> It's much easier at UHF and uWaves.
> 
> An alternative is to measure/compute the losses.? Did something similar 
> on a 10 KW FM broadcast TX, calculating the power it took to heat the 
> exhaust air on the premise that the rest went up the coax to the antenna 
> and I knew what the PA input power was.
> 
> KFBK in Sacramento CA [1530 KHz] eliminated a lot of the unmeasurable 
> variables by employing a Franklin antenna [center-fed half-wave 
> vertical] over the rice fields of the southern Sacramento Valley [nearly 
> always standing water, and always wet]. The center-fed vertical exhibits 
> far less ground losses than bottom-fed monopoles ... at 50 KW, it's 
> colloquially known as the "Flame Thrower of Sacramento."? It may be the 
> only Franklin left in NA.? KFBK is also famous as the birthplace of the 
> RCA Ampliphase transmitters and the radio birthplace of Rush Limbaugh.
> 
> NEC models coupled with terrain models can be used to establish upper 
> and lower bounds on antenna efficiency with pretty good fidelity to 
> reality.? But Bob still posed a good question.
> 
> 73,
> 
> Fred ["Skip"] K6DGW
> Sparks NV DM09dn
> Washoe County
> 
>> On 9/9/2018 2:01 PM, Don Wilhelm wrote:
>> Skip,
>> 
>> That is a great formula for theory - I vaguely remember it from my 
>> electromagnetic fields course.
>> But how you measure it?
>> With practical measurement equipment, it is difficult to isolate to a 
>> single plane.
>> 
>> That may be do-able with fully characterized equipment in a controlled 
>> antenna field space or in an EMC lab, but it certainly is not 
>> practical in a typical ham antenna installation - and even the 
>> radiation resistance is not easily measured.
>> 
>> Antenna modeling done properly will provide a much more easily 
>> produced result.? Comparative results between different antennas can 
>> be obtained from a reference pickup antenna, but that can only show 
>> the relative performance, 
> 
> 
> 
> --
> 
> Message: 4
> Date: Sun, 9 Sep 2018 17:20:17 -0700
> From: Alan 
> To: elecraft@mailman.qth.net
> Subject: Re: [Elecraft] ARRL book on receiving antennas
> Message-ID: <96b660d3-5a7d-cb60-8d1d-827aaa6d7...@sonic.net>
> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8; format=flowed
> 
>> On 09/09/2018 01:01 PM, Jim Brown wrote:
>>> On 9/9/2018 12:39 PM, Bob McGraw K4TAX wrote:
>>> How does one measure transmit antenna efficiency?
>> 
>> Not easily. :)? B...
> 
>> AND -- propagation reporting systems like WSPR and the Reverse Beacon 
>> Network (RBN) can provide very good comparisons between antennas IF a 
>> LOT of reports from? a LOT of stations is averaged over a LOT of time.
> 
> Back in the late 1970s, when I worked at W1AW, a new 90-foot tower with 
> stacked monobanders for 20 meters was installed.  We wanted to compare 
> the new antenna against the big rhombic that had been used for many 
> years for the 20 meter bulletin and code practice transmissions.
> 
> So, for a week or two, we did test transmissions after each scheduled 
> transmitting session.  We would switch between antenna "A" and antenna 
> "B", send long dashes, and ask listeners

Re: [Elecraft] Connecting RS232 to TS-2000 and a PC and a KPA500

[Cliff Frescura]

Yes, you can make a "sniffer" that sends data to the KPA500 from the radio.

This is exactly how I used my KPA500 with my TS-940.

73,

Cliff K3LL/6

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[mailto:elecraft-boun...@mailman.qth.net] On Behalf Of Paul Baldock
Sent: Monday, January 08, 2018 6:23 PM
To: elecraft@mailman.qth.net
Subject: [Elecraft] Connecting RS232 to TS-2000 and a PC and a KPA500

Is it possible to connect a PC to the RS232 of the Kenwood TS-2000 and then
T of the same cable to send just the data (and gnd) from the
TS-2000 to the KPA-500. The logging program on the PC would do the polling
of the TS-2000.

Thanks

- Paul  KW7Y

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Re: [Elecraft] FS KPA500 and KAT500

[Cliff Frescura]

The KPA500 has been sold.  The KAT500 is still available.

 

 

From: Cliff Frescura [mailto:c...@cfcorp.com] 
Sent: Sunday, November 12, 2017 5:59 PM
To: 'elecraft@mailman.qth.net'
Subject: FS KPA500 and KAT500

 

For sale:

 

KPA500 $1500

KAT500 $500

 

Factory built, original owner.

 

Plus shipping and insurance.  I am located in Los Angeles and can meet
nearby.

 

Please reply off list c...@cfcorp.com

 

73,

 

Cliff K3LL/6

 

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[Elecraft] FS KPA500 and KAT500

[Cliff Frescura]

For sale:

 

KPA500 $1500

KAT500 $500

 

Factory built, original owner.

 

Plus shipping and insurance.  I am located in Los Angeles and can meet
nearby.

 

Please reply off list c...@cfcorp.com

 

73,

 

Cliff K3LL/6

 

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Re: [Elecraft] FS: E850463 KAT500 to KPA500 Cable

[Cliff Frescura]

Cable has sold.

-Original Message-
From: Elecraft [mailto:elecraft-boun...@mailman.qth.net] On Behalf Of Cliff
Frescura
Sent: Saturday, April 22, 2017 11:00 PM
To: elecraft@mailman.qth.net
Subject: [Elecraft] FS: E850463 KAT500 to KPA500 Cable

Hi,

 

I have a KAT500 to KPA500 15 Pin cable that is excess to my needs.

 

Complete info here:  http://www.elecraft.com/elecraft_prod_list.htm#kat500 

 

$20 via PayPal and shipped USPS Priority mail.

 

Thanks and 73,

 

Cliff K3LL/6

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[Elecraft] FS: E850463 KAT500 to KPA500 Cable

[Cliff Frescura]

Hi,

 

I have a KAT500 to KPA500 15 Pin cable that is excess to my needs.

 

Complete info here:  http://www.elecraft.com/elecraft_prod_list.htm#kat500 

 

$20 via PayPal and shipped USPS Priority mail.

 

Thanks and 73,

 

Cliff K3LL/6

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Re: [Elecraft] Chinese Filters on eBay

[Cliff Frescura]

"Elecraft Inside!", to borrow Intel's old line.

But seriously, people just spent circa $3K-$4K USD (new) on a high
performance radio and then go this route on a fairly critical component?

On one hand, it's a tribute to Elecraft's success and popularity, on the
other it can be a support nightmare.  Can counterfeit versions be that far
off?

73,

Cliff K3LL/6

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Sent: Wednesday, November 02, 2016 8:36 PM
To: Al Lorona
Cc: elecraft@mailman.qth.net
Subject: Re: [Elecraft] Chinese Filters on eBay

"Pop the top"!

Sent from my iPhone
...nr4c. bill


> On Nov 2, 2016, at 5:39 PM, Al Lorona  wrote:
> 
> When purchasing a used K3, remember to ask, "Are the filters genuine
Elecraft?"
> 
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Re: [Elecraft] KPA500 Band Tracking

[Cliff Frescura]

I think I jumped the gun and was wrong.

73,

Cliff K3LL/6

-Original Message-
From: Dauer, Edward [mailto:eda...@law.du.edu] 
Sent: Sunday, August 07, 2016 3:42 PM
To: Cliff Frescura; elecraft@mailman.qth.net; brian
Subject: Re: [Elecraft] KPA500 Band Tracking

Thanks, Cliff.  I am aware of the 30M 200W power limitation, but I don’t see 
why adding 30M to the K3’s Band Map would cause 40 meters and 10 meters to be 
in error.  When the K3 is at 7.0 MHz the KPA500 switches to 3.5.  When the K3 
is at 28.0 MHz the KPA500 switches to 24.9.  That never happened before today.  
Moreover the amp correctly senses 30M on the first dit and switches correctly, 
and seems very happy producing 200W or more on 30M.

Brian, K3KO, suggested disconnecting the cable from the amp to see what the 
band buttons on the amp do.  They work correctly with the cable disconnected, 
and they work correctly with the cable connected and the K3’s power off.  7.0 
switches to 7.0, 28 switches to 28, and so forth.  So what does that mean – 
that the fault lies in the K3?  But before adding 30M to the Band map in the K3 
changing bands worked for all of 80, 40, 20, 15, and 10 – that is, changing the 
K3 band changed the KPA500 band correctly.  Now it doesn’t work for 40 and 10, 
and 30; but it does for 80, 20 and 15.  Since the only change that occurred was 
adding 30M to the band map, does that mean something is fouled up in the 
configuration?  I did recycle the power to both the K3 and the KPA500 after 
making the configuration change.

One other fact – pressing the 10MHz band button on the KPA500 correctly 
switches the K3 to 10MHz – but places the amp on 5.3 MHz.  The amp then 
switches to 10 MHz with the first transmitted dit.  But pressing the 10MHz band 
button on the amp when the K3 power is off changes the amp to 10 MHz.

Appreciative and still perplexed,  Ted, KN1CBR


Edward A. Dauer,  LL.B.  M.P.H.
Dean Emeritus and Professor Emeritus of Law University of Denver


On 8/7/16, 4:19 PM, "Cliff Frescura"  wrote:

"But the KPA doesn’t track the K3’s band choice correctly."

...it's by design.

In the US the maximum power on 30m is 200W PEP.

http://www.arrl.org/frequency-allocations

73,

Cliff K3LL/6

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From: Elecraft [mailto:elecraft-boun...@mailman.qth.net] On Behalf Of 
Dauer, Edward
Sent: Sunday, August 07, 2016 2:50 PM
To: elecraft@mailman.qth.net
Subject: [Elecraft] KPA500 Band Tracking

I must have done something I didn’t mean to do.

Just put up a 30 meter antenna today.  It works fine.  Until today I had 
the K3 band map set to include only 80-40-20-15-10.  The KPA500 tracked it 
automatically perfectly.  I then went into the config menu for band map and set 
30 meters to IN.   The K3 works perfectly – band switching gives me, in MHz, 
3.5 – 7.0 – 10.1 – 14.0 – 21.0 – 28.0 and then cycles back to 3.5  That is also 
exactly what I expected.

But the KPA doesn’t track the K3’s band choice correctly.  For 80 I get 80. 
 For 40 on the K3 I get 80 on the KPA500. For 30 on the K3 I get 5.3MHz on the 
KPA500.  For 20 I get 20.  For 15 I get 15.  And for 10 on the K3 I get 24.9 
MHz on the KPA500. 

Interestingly, the “Band” buttons on the KPA500 have the same errors.  In 
MHz, pressing 1.8 yields 5.3.  3.5 is OK.  Pressing 7.0 produces 3.5.  14 and 
21 are OK.  And pressing 28 produces 24.9.

The frequency sampling, however, works perfectly.  A single dit on any band 
switches the KPA500 to the correct band, as defined by the K3.

The cables are all Elecraft issue.  They are all connected correctly – 
witness that everything worked perfectly, on every band, until I added 30M into 
the K3’s band map.  Because both the K3 auto tracking feature and the Band 
buttons on the KPA500 yield the same errors, I think I must have messed up 
something in the amp.

I have, by the way, already RdTFM.

Any ideas about what I might have done?  Equally useful would be, how do I 
undo it?

Many thanks for whatever anyone can suggest . . . 

Ted, KN1CBR

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Re: [Elecraft] KPA500 Band Tracking

[Cliff Frescura]

"But the KPA doesn’t track the K3’s band choice correctly."

...it's by design.

In the US the maximum power on 30m is 200W PEP.

http://www.arrl.org/frequency-allocations

73,

Cliff K3LL/6

-Original Message-
From: Elecraft [mailto:elecraft-boun...@mailman.qth.net] On Behalf Of Dauer, 
Edward
Sent: Sunday, August 07, 2016 2:50 PM
To: elecraft@mailman.qth.net
Subject: [Elecraft] KPA500 Band Tracking

I must have done something I didn’t mean to do.

Just put up a 30 meter antenna today.  It works fine.  Until today I had the K3 
band map set to include only 80-40-20-15-10.  The KPA500 tracked it 
automatically perfectly.  I then went into the config menu for band map and set 
30 meters to IN.   The K3 works perfectly – band switching gives me, in MHz, 
3.5 – 7.0 – 10.1 – 14.0 – 21.0 – 28.0 and then cycles back to 3.5  That is also 
exactly what I expected.

But the KPA doesn’t track the K3’s band choice correctly.  For 80 I get 80.  
For 40 on the K3 I get 80 on the KPA500. For 30 on the K3 I get 5.3MHz on the 
KPA500.  For 20 I get 20.  For 15 I get 15.  And for 10 on the K3 I get 24.9 
MHz on the KPA500. 

Interestingly, the “Band” buttons on the KPA500 have the same errors.  In MHz, 
pressing 1.8 yields 5.3.  3.5 is OK.  Pressing 7.0 produces 3.5.  14 and 21 are 
OK.  And pressing 28 produces 24.9.

The frequency sampling, however, works perfectly.  A single dit on any band 
switches the KPA500 to the correct band, as defined by the K3.

The cables are all Elecraft issue.  They are all connected correctly – witness 
that everything worked perfectly, on every band, until I added 30M into the 
K3’s band map.  Because both the K3 auto tracking feature and the Band buttons 
on the KPA500 yield the same errors, I think I must have messed up something in 
the amp.

I have, by the way, already RdTFM.

Any ideas about what I might have done?  Equally useful would be, how do I undo 
it?

Many thanks for whatever anyone can suggest . . . 

Ted, KN1CBR

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Re: [Elecraft] Test serial-to-USB converter

[Cliff Frescura]

Another test you can try is to short pins 2 and 3 on the RS-232 side of the
converter (loop back) and then use a terminal program to see if characters
that you type are echoed back.

Some notes:

1. make sure handshaking is off/none
2. make sure local echo is off
3. data rate does not matter
4. there are several (free) terminal emulation programs out there.
HyperTerminal used to be bundled with XP but is no longer free.  However you
can download a trial version here
http://www.hilgraeve.com/hyperterminal-trial/ 

73,

Cliff K3LL/6

-Original Message-
From: Elecraft [mailto:elecraft-boun...@mailman.qth.net] On Behalf Of Don
Wilhelm
Sent: Monday, July 18, 2016 4:05 PM
To: Jan Ditzian; Elecraft@mailman.qth.net
Subject: Re: [Elecraft] Test serial-to-USB converter

Jan,

The best way to test a USB to serial converter is by substitution with a
known good one, or by substitution of a known good working serial device
connected to the questionable converter cable.

Yes, a power surge or a lightning event can damage serial interfaces as well
as USB interfaces.

Since your USB ports on the computer seem to work, borrow a known good USB
to serial converter and try it out - preferably one with an FTDI chipset.

If you have any other devices that use a serial COM port interface, see if
they work with your USB to serial adapter - if so, the adapter is probably
OK, but remember that in the event of a power surge, multiple failures are
possible even though in normal troubleshooting we assume only a single
failure.

You can test the USB to serial converter with a 'scope and an RS-232
breakout box, but you have to know the proper RS-232 levels to understand
what is happening.  A null modem loopback cable can be helpful if you have
to proper driving software application for that testing.  I did that during
my years of PC modem testing, but that was more than 30 years ago and the
software ran under DOS - not helpful now.

73,
Don W3FPR

On 7/18/2016 6:36 PM, Jan Ditzian wrote:
> I have a K3 that lost communication with my computer. It uses an 
> Elecraft serial-to-USB converter and cable.  This probably happened 
> during a known power surge.  I also lost communication to my MDS 
> rotor, which uses a built-in USB cable, which I believe may also be a 
> serial-to-USB arrangement.  I checked things out a bit, and I can tell 
> that my USB ports all seem to work.  I also tried the K3 with another 
> computer and was unable to communicate with it.  However, I also tried 
> a direct serial-to-serial cable from the K3 to the first computer, 
> which has a serial port, and was also unable to communicate.  I am now 
> unsure of the location of the problem.  I am willing to go with 
> whatever works.
>

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Re: [Elecraft] Shipping fully assembled KPA-500

[Cliff Frescura]

My factory assembled KPA-500 was shipped in one carton, all parts installed.
Set the line voltage and install the fuses, and you're off to the races!

73,

Cliff K3LL/6

-Original Message-
From: Elecraft [mailto:elecraft-boun...@mailman.qth.net] On Behalf Of Ralph
McClintock
Sent: Saturday, June 25, 2016 5:02 PM
To: elecraft@mailman.qth.net
Subject: [Elecraft] Shipping fully assembled KPA-500

What does Elecraft recommend for shipping a built KPA-500? Do KPA-500F amps
ship with the xformer installed? Not selling mine, just wondering about
buying a used one!!
W1ZK

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Re: [Elecraft] KAT500 beta firmware revision 1.75 available

[Cliff Frescura]

Thanks,

I'm assuming there is a small copy/paste artifact on the page since it shows
the date of the earlier software version, 1.67.

73,

Cliff K3LL/6

-Original Message-
From: Elecraft [mailto:elecraft-boun...@mailman.qth.net] On Behalf Of Dick
Dievendorff
Sent: Monday, June 13, 2016 5:43 PM
To: 'Elecraft Reflector'
Subject: [Elecraft] KAT500 beta firmware revision 1.75 available

A new KAT500 firmware revision 1.75 is now available for download, see
http://www.elecraft.com/KAT500/kat500_software.htm

 

Beta firmware arrives in a ZIP archive file; download and extract the
firmware and release notes files into a folder on your PC, and then use the
KAT500 Utility Firmware tab and "browse" to that folder.

 

This version should appeal to users of the KAT500's serial command
capability in conjunction with control programs like Win4KSuite and others
that send frequency set commands to the KAT500. 

 

73 de Dick, K6KR

 

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Re: [Elecraft] logging/k3s control program

[Cliff Frescura]

Yes, check out:

http://www.dxlabsuite.com/commander/Help/CommandSequences.htm

Also, the DXLab reflector at dx...@yahoogroups.com is very active, much like
this one.

73,

Cliff K3LL/6

-Original Message-
From: Elecraft [mailto:elecraft-boun...@mailman.qth.net] On Behalf Of Jim -
N4ST
Sent: Saturday, June 04, 2016 3:55 PM
To: 'Walter Underwood'; 'Elecraft List'
Subject: Re: [Elecraft] logging/k3s control program

Haven't used DXLabs for several years.
Does it have the ability to create buttons that can be programmed to run K3S
macro language?

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Re: [Elecraft] logging/k3s control program

[Cliff Frescura]

Hi Jerry,

In regard to:

"4)  It should have support for contest operating."

Most general purpose logging programs have some contesting capabilities, but
there are many aspects of contesting that really necessitate the use of a
dedicated contest logging program.

I would suggest you start with a dedicated general purpose logging program
(my preference is DXLab - http://dxlabsuite.com/ ) and then add a dedicated
contest logging program (my preference is N1MM -
http://n1mm.hamdocs.com/tiki-index.php ).

73,

Cliff K3LL/6

-Original Message-
From: Elecraft [mailto:elecraft-boun...@mailman.qth.net] On Behalf Of Jerry
Sent: Saturday, June 04, 2016 12:39 PM
To: elecraft@mailman.qth.net
Subject: [Elecraft] logging/k3s control program

Now that I have been operating my K3S for several months 'barefoot' (no
computer) I realize I need a logging/control program. In searching the
interwebby one can be overwhelmed with the myriad of software available. I
would appreciate any input for my needs. I apologize if the following are
pretty much standard in all programs.

1)  I am primarily a dx chaser so a comprehensive log program should
include auto matching to notify me if I have already worked a station and
keep track of dxcc by band.

2)  It should have a field for entering notes (perhaps user defined
fields?)

3)  It should support cw, rtty & some digital modes - which ones? I
haven't a clue as I have never used a digital mode but intend to.

4)  It should have support for contest operating.

5)  It should be able to auto dump to LOTW.

6)  I should be able to export the entire database in some readable form
(suitable for Excel, etc)

7)  It should be able to fully control the k3s/p3 (or is this something
I should have a separate program for?)

To me it seems this is the list I need but the problem is I'm not confident
that I even know all the right questions to ask :(

Any suggestions would be appreciated.

Thanks
Jerry, k1tgx
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Re: [Elecraft] Operating remotely via Direct TV satellite provider

[Cliff Frescura]

Yes, the signal has to travel ~22,300 miles x 2 (up and down).

73,

Cliff K3LL/6

-Original Message-
From: Elecraft [mailto:elecraft-boun...@mailman.qth.net] On Behalf Of David
Gilbert
Sent: Saturday, April 09, 2016 8:53 PM
To: elecraft@mailman.qth.net
Subject: Re: [Elecraft] Operating remotely via Direct TV satellite provider


Not sure about the audio, but I think latency would be the bigger issue.  I
had satellite internet (essentially Hughes. net) for about three years
before a wireless ISP opened shop in our area.  My typical pings were on the
order of 1300-1500 msec.  I don't think you'd want to live with that for
anything other than casual ragchewing.

Dave   AB7E



On 4/9/2016 8:23 PM, Don Strom wrote:
> Is anyone operating their K3 remotely using a satellite provider.
>
> I believe I heard that is not possible with satellite internet at the
remote site?
>
> Something to do with the way the audio is passed via the internet
connection.
>
> Don W0EAR
>
>

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Re: [Elecraft] KPA500 problem

[Cliff Frescura]

Can you measure the 110V line voltage on key down?  Is it stiff enough?

73,

Cliff K3LL/6

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From: Elecraft [mailto:elecraft-boun...@mailman.qth.net] On Behalf Of Mike
Crownover
Sent: Tuesday, February 16, 2016 8:22 AM
To: 'Nr4c'
Cc: elecraft@mailman.qth.net
Subject: Re: [Elecraft] KPA500 problem

Bill,

Did that, it's set for 110v. I used the yellow tap, which gives me 75 v,
right in the middle of the spec. I did try the other two, but same behavior.

Thnaks,

Mike AD5A

-Original Message-
From: Nr4c [mailto:n...@widomaker.com]
Sent: Tuesday, February 16, 2016 10:19 AM
To: Mike Crownover 
Subject: Re: [Elecraft] KPA500 problem

What input voltage is it configured for?

Check manual for voltage tap info. 

Sent from my iPhone
...nr4c. bill


> On Feb 15, 2016, at 11:11 PM, Mike Crownover  wrote:
> 
> I just bought a lightly used KPA500. It arrived from the seller, well 
> packed and complete with cables, manuals, etc. I turned the amp on, 
> interfaced it with my K3, keyed the radio and the KPA500 immediately 
> shut-off. No fault light or error code, nothing. It shuts down just as 
> if I had pressed the power button, the fan runs, etc... The antenna is 
> resonant 1:1, I've lowered input power to 10 watts, swapped coax, 
> hooked it up to another K3, used RCA to RCA cable, the Elecraft cable, 
> etc.. When down to 10 watts input, I can tap the paddle like a 
> straight key lightly and the amp works, but put two dits together and 
> it
shuts down.
> 
> 
> 
> Has anyone had an experienced anything like this. I keep thinking this 
> has to be something simple.
> 
> 
> 
> Mike AD5A
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Re: [Elecraft] Love me K3 line

[Cliff Frescura]

Antennas?

-Original Message-
From: Elecraft [mailto:elecraft-boun...@mailman.qth.net] On Behalf Of Paul
VanOveren
Sent: Sunday, January 31, 2016 5:10 PM
To: elecraft reflector
Subject: [Elecraft] Love me K3 line

I have worked both S Sandwich and S. Georgia Islands on 4 bands and CW and
SSB for ATNOs, # 343 and 344 for my DXCC credits. When I sold my Alpha 374
3 holer amp and purchased the KPA 500 I was somewhat concerned about the pwr
output difference. However I have worked probably 15 ATNOs since the switch
and have NOT missed working any station that I have wanted to work.
The P3 w/SVGA added is a great tool, particulary on CW, looking for a hole
to call in when the DX is listening 5 to 20 Kcs up...

NF8J
Paul
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Re: [Elecraft] Kenwood TS-590SG with KPA500 amp?

[Cliff Frescura]

I have an old TS-940 working with the KPA500.  I used the ACC amp
connections on the back on the Kenwood for PTT, which I believe is a DIP
mechanical relay - not loud at all.  In addition, the KPA500 sniffs the
RS-232 line between the Kenwood and my logging PC running DXLabs to
automatically switch bands on the KPA when the frequency changes via the
computer or via the radio.  

73,

Cliff K3LL

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From: Elecraft [mailto:elecraft-boun...@mailman.qth.net] On Behalf Of Steven
C Veal
Sent: Friday, January 22, 2016 4:55 PM
To: elecraft@mailman.qth.net
Subject: [Elecraft] Kenwood TS-590SG with KPA500 amp?

Hello all:
I have a KPA500 on order to use with my Kenwood TS-590SG (and with my
Elecraft KX3). I would appreciate any suggestions on the best way to
interface the TS-590SG and the amp.
In reviewing the Kenwood manual and some of the Yahoo groups, it appears
that there are at least two ways to interface to the amp. The 590SG offers a
mechanical relay as well as a solid state relay for amplifier switching.
The mechanical relay is apparently fairly foolproof but is noisy. The solid
state relay is quieter or near silent but apparently has some issues in
keying the KPA500. I don't do CW, so rapid keying is not really an issue
with me.
I would appreciate any advice on the best way to interface these two. I
attempted a cursory scan of previous mail list posts but the number of
postings is voluminous. IS THERE A QUICK WAY TO SEARCH PREVIOUS POSTS?
Thanks all in advance for your responses!Steve, N5SKHWeatherford, TX
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Re: [Elecraft] Long RS232 Runs - RS422

[Cliff Frescura]

"Consequently levels of +5 and 0 volts will, in most normal cases, work,
although they are out of specification"

Yes, they work by accident.  Until they don't.

73,

Cliff K3LL

-Original Message-
From: Elecraft [mailto:elecraft-boun...@mailman.qth.net] On Behalf Of David
Woolley
Sent: Friday, January 22, 2016 6:45 AM
To: elecraft@mailman.qth.net
Subject: Re: [Elecraft] Long RS232 Runs - RS422

The +/- 3 volts levels are requirements on the driver, not the receiver. 
  In practice, receivers have quite a small hysteresis, and the threshold
points are set to meet the requirements of a type 1 interface as defined in
section 7 of ITU-T V.28.  Whilst the specified purpose of this is that a
powered down or open circuit condition should result in defined states for,
particularly control signals (off), in practice it means that real world
receivers will also handle high speed signals which are strictly positive.

Consequently levels of +5 and 0 volts will, in most normal cases, work,
although they are out of specification.

ITU-T V.28 is generally aligned with the electrical characteristics of
EIA232, but has the advantage that the document is available for free
download.

--
David Woolley
Owner K2 06123

On 21/01/16 20:03, Cliff Frescura wrote:
> RS-232 use +3 to +15VDC and -3 to -15VDC for signaling levels, thus -5 
> and +5 will work too, but *not* 0VDC and +5VDC
>


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Re: [Elecraft] Long RS232 Runs - RS422

[Cliff Frescura]

RS-232 use +3 to +15VDC and -3 to -15VDC for signaling levels, thus -5 and +5 
will work too, but *not* 0VDC and +5VDC

Like others, I've run RS-232 over 100's of feet.  RS-422 will go much further 
and has the advantages of multi-drop and noise immunity due to its differential 
nature.

73,

Cliff K3LL

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From: Elecraft [mailto:elecraft-boun...@mailman.qth.net] On Behalf Of WILLIS 
COOKE via Elecraft
Sent: Thursday, January 21, 2016 11:53 AM
To: j...@audiosystemsgroup.com; elecraft@mailman.qth.net
Subject: Re: [Elecraft] Long RS232 Runs - RS422

The old criteria was 50 feet, but that was set before the specification for any 
twisted pair for digital, let alone Cat 5.  In short, it it works well, it is 
OK but 200 feet sounds reasonable.  RS-232 uses a 5 volt signal level.  RS-422 
uses a higher signal level, I believe 12 volts, but that is from memory.  Watch 
out for the serial dongles that plug into USB ports.  Some are not full RS232 
and do not work except with certain connections, ham radio applications not 
included.  Be careful and if it does not work, keep trying different dongles or 
get on the internet and find the brand and source for one that will work.  If 
all else fails or if you want to be sure, buy a card based RS-232 or 488 
interface that uses all DB-9 or DB-25 connectors.   Willis 'Cookie' Cooke,VP of 
Tidelands ARS and TXPE K5EWJ & Trustee N5BPS
 

  From: Jim Brown 
 To: elecraft@mailman.qth.net
 Sent: Thursday, January 21, 2016 12:44 PM
 Subject: Re: [Elecraft] Long RS232 Runs - RS422
   
On Thu,1/21/2016 10:32 AM, Michael Walker wrote:
> I wanted to mention that for those that want long RS232 runs for 
> devices (Steppir, Rotator, Elecraft Amp),

It helps to define "long." Distance for RS232 was originally defined in feet. 
Many years ago, it was redefined in terms of capacitance between conductors. 
Using cables as common as CAT5, lengths of 200 ft or more are no problem. 
Simply use one pair per signalling circuit.

73, Jim K9YC
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Re: [Elecraft] suggested PC??? Real RS-232 ports

[Cliff Frescura]

I agree with N1MGO,

I've come full circle on this one and am in the process of removing all of
the USB/RS-232 converters in my setup and reinstalling a 4 port card that I
had in an old XP system (drivers work fine).

Determining what is a quality USB/RS-232 serial adapter is not always clear.
There are potential driver issues as well as suspect RF shielding.  Some of
these devices don't enable you to securely connect to both ends (no screw
connections, so the connector is not securely seated).  They are just
another (additional) point of failure.  Plus you are also now dealing with
limitations of USB (re: polling).

The FTDI chipset and drivers seem the most reliable and if you want to take
apart your newly purchased converter, you can determine if the chipset is
counterfeit.

http://hackaday.com/2014/02/19/ft232rl-real-or-fake/

If you need only 1 RS-232 port I would go with a converter, but once you get
above 2, then I think it is a good choice.


73,

Cliff K3LL



-Original Message-
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Tucker
Sent: Tuesday, January 05, 2016 10:44 AM
To: Elecraft Reflector
Subject: Re: [Elecraft] suggested PC???

I haven't had used a "real" (old fashioned) serial port on any PC that
controls radio equipment in probably 10 years.  It's really not necessary if
you purchase quality USB/Serial adapters (no fake chipsets) where needed.
The only PC I have with a old-fashioned serial port is an ancient Toshiba
laptop I keep around that runs DOS so I can program old Motorola radios.

On Tue, Jan 5, 2016 at 10:19 AM, Gordon LaPoint 
wrote:

> You should consider adding real RS232 ports, at least 2 or 4 if you 
> will ever run two radios, and even more if you want to control rotors, 
> amps
> (KPA-500) or other accessories.
>
>>
>>
>
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Re: [Elecraft] Remote KAT500

[Cliff Frescura]

8 ft is not true for rs-232.  Depends on type of cable and baud rate.  50ft is 
generally fine and can go up to hundreds of feet.  Maybe you are thinking about 
usb.

73,

Cliff K3LL

 Original message From: Mike va3mw 
 Date:12/30/2015  11:32 AM  (GMT-08:00) 
To: Va3ied  Cc: 
elecraft@mailman.qth.net Subject: Re: [Elecraft] Remote KAT500 

While the spec for serial is about 8ft, I run it much further in 
professional sports timing. 

Give it a try and see if it works. If you can keep the baud rate down, that 
will help. 

To really do it correctly, you will want to run rs232 to rs485 converters and 
that will certainly solve your problem.  Www.rs485.com has the bits you need.  
You can send serial like this thousands of meters.  We do this all the time. 

It isn't as complicated as it sounds. 

Mike va3mw



> On Dec 30, 2015, at 9:47 AM, Va3ied  wrote:
> 
> My tower and garden shed are about 150 feet away. I have LMR400 buried inside
> some PEX pipe. Would like to use the KAT500 inside the shed...not sure how
> well a serial connection that distance would work!
> scott va3ied
> 
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Re: [Elecraft] KPA500 RESET??

[Cliff Frescura]

I find it hard to believe that the processor in the KPA is locked up. I've
done quite a bit of experimentation with the RS-232 port on it and have
never locked mine up and never had the need to attempt a reset?

Can you get to the menu of the KPA?  If so, it is not locked up.  However if
you unplug power from the amp and wait a minute to two it may have the same
effect.

How is the Flex connected to the amp?  Are the communication parameters the
same if you are using RS-232?

When you do attempt to key the amp, is there an asterisk (*) shown on the
KPA display?

When you changed bands on the Flex does the amp follow?

73,

Cliff K3LL

-Original Message-
From: Elecraft [mailto:elecraft-boun...@mailman.qth.net] On Behalf Of
joeduerbusch
Sent: Saturday, December 26, 2015 8:34 AM
To: elecraft@mailman.qth.net
Subject: [Elecraft] KPA500 RESET??

I got a new KPA500 for Christmas.  It worked fine.
But I tried to interface it with my FLEX-6300 using a program Called DDUTIL.
DDUTIL connected to both the Flex and KPA500 but now I have NO KPA500
keying.  Yes I have the PA Key hooked up.  Without the DDUTIL the KPA500
worked and changed bands by RF.  That doesn't work either.

Is there a HARD RESET for the KPA500 as I think its computer is locked up

Joe K0BX

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Re: [Elecraft] Rescaling the W2?

[Cliff Frescura]

Very cool Alan!  Did you verify the power with another reference meter?
...wondering if the scale adjustment is linear over the calibration setting
range.

73,

Cliff K3LL

-Original Message-
From: Elecraft [mailto:elecraft-boun...@mailman.qth.net] On Behalf Of Alan
Sent: Friday, November 20, 2015 9:07 AM
To: elecraft@mailman.qth.net
Subject: Re: [Elecraft] Rescaling the W2?

I just tested it.  The maximum you can set the W2 calibration value to is
650.  (Using the ">" and "+" RS-232 commands)  That causes the wattmeter to
read about 60% high on my W2.  So with the W2 set to read 2000W full scale,
the actual full scale would be about 1250W.

Or you could go in the other direction.  The minimum calibration value is
350, which causes the power to read about 47% (on my unit).  With the
W2 set to read 200W full scale it would actually be about 425W full scale.

Alan N1AL


On 11/20/2015 07:15 AM, Cliff Frescura wrote:
> I find the scaling awkward as well.  My W2 is placed on the input side 
> of my
> KPA500 and it seems that dividing the scale by two might do the trick.  
> I've not looked at the schematic, but wonder if it could be tricked by 
> a resistor divider in the sensor line.
>
> 73,
>
> Cliff K3LL
>
> -Original Message-
> From: Elecraft [mailto:elecraft-boun...@mailman.qth.net] On Behalf Of 
> Don Wilhelm
> Sent: Friday, November 20, 2015 5:55 AM
> To: Scott Townley; elecraft@mailman.qth.net
> Subject: Re: [Elecraft] Rescaling the W2?
>
> Scott,
>
> I believe that would require a new sensor and firmware to support it.
> Popular scales on wattmeters are 200 watts and 2000 watts full scale, 
> so you are not going to get much better with another brand product.
> The W2 used with its utility program can give you more resolution, but 
> then using the Utility when mobile would not be advisable.
>
> 73,
> Don W3FPR
>
> On 11/20/2015 8:32 AM, Scott Townley wrote:
>> I know the W2 can be "dialed in" to match one's personal standard, 
>> but...can it be completely rescaled?
>> I use the K3/KPA500/W2 mobile, and the KPA500 is mounted in my pickup 
>> bed so the W2 is the only system meter available at the operating 
>> position.  However, the 2's scaling doesn't give me much display 
>> dynamic range...the KPA500 will only light 5 of the 17 LEDs at full 
>> power.
>> It would be far more useful for me to have the meter scaled to 600W 
>> say...then the 15th LED would be 450W.  Even scaling it to 1000W 
>> would give me more than half the display range.
>>
>>
>
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Re: [Elecraft] KPA 500 voltage drop on key down

[Cliff Frescura]

Sounds like the amp is plugged into an outlet that is potentially overloaded
or underrated.

Changing the tap won't solve the problem and may damage the amp.

73,

Cliff K3LL

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From: Elecraft [mailto:elecraft-boun...@mailman.qth.net] On Behalf Of Matt
Murphy
Sent: Friday, November 20, 2015 7:46 AM
To: Elecraft Reflector
Subject: [Elecraft] KPA 500 voltage drop on key down

I just set up my KPA 500 and the HV on standby is 72.5 volts.  On key down,
however, it drops to 48 volts and the lights in the shack noticeably flicker
a bit.

Would changing a the tap on the transformer potentially help things? Or is
the real issue the voltage drop between the pole and the wall socket?

Suggestions/ideas would be much appreciated, as well as tips for debugging
any issues with the household wiring.

Per the KPA 500 manual, the amp may fault if the voltage under load gets
below 60VDC, so running in it with reduced drive may be necessary. While
doing that wouldn't be the end of the world, I'd like to address the root
cause if possible.

73,
Matt NQ6N
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Re: [Elecraft] Rescaling the W2?

[Cliff Frescura]

I find the scaling awkward as well.  My W2 is placed on the input side of my
KPA500 and it seems that dividing the scale by two might do the trick.  I've
not looked at the schematic, but wonder if it could be tricked by a resistor
divider in the sensor line.

73,

Cliff K3LL

-Original Message-
From: Elecraft [mailto:elecraft-boun...@mailman.qth.net] On Behalf Of Don
Wilhelm
Sent: Friday, November 20, 2015 5:55 AM
To: Scott Townley; elecraft@mailman.qth.net
Subject: Re: [Elecraft] Rescaling the W2?

Scott,

I believe that would require a new sensor and firmware to support it.
Popular scales on wattmeters are 200 watts and 2000 watts full scale, so you
are not going to get much better with another brand product.
The W2 used with its utility program can give you more resolution, but then
using the Utility when mobile would not be advisable.

73,
Don W3FPR

On 11/20/2015 8:32 AM, Scott Townley wrote:
> I know the W2 can be "dialed in" to match one's personal standard, 
> but...can it be completely rescaled?
> I use the K3/KPA500/W2 mobile, and the KPA500 is mounted in my pickup 
> bed so the W2 is the only system meter available at the operating 
> position.  However, the 2's scaling doesn't give me much display 
> dynamic range...the KPA500 will only light 5 of the 17 LEDs at full 
> power.
> It would be far more useful for me to have the meter scaled to 600W 
> say...then the 15th LED would be 450W.  Even scaling it to 1000W would 
> give me more than half the display range.
>
>

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Re: [Elecraft] KAT500 Re-Tuning

[Cliff Frescura]

Thanks -this is helpful information.  If going the hardware route, I am
inclined to implement the logic via an RS-232 wedge device vs implementing a
BAND0-3 device (basically an antenna switch).

73,

Cliff K3LL/6

-Original Message-
From: Dick Dievendorff [mailto:d...@elecraft.com] 
Sent: Monday, November 16, 2015 9:36 PM
To: Cliff Frescura
Cc: Cady, Fred; Elecraft@mailman.qth.net
Subject: Re: [Elecraft] KAT500 Re-Tuning

If the band lines are used only, the ATU picks a mid band freq if there is
no history since last ATU power up.  On first tx after that, it performs a
memory recall tune using the counted freq. 

Power up means DC power applied.

A k3 can provide approx freq on RX thru the ACC cable, depending on a menu
setting 

Dick, K6KR

> On Nov 15, 2015, at 16:20, Cliff Frescura  wrote:
> 
> I went back and reviewed the KAT500 command set and it doesn't look 
> like this is possible because the serial protocol does not have a way 
> to communicate split status.  I've been knee deep in the KPA500 serial 
> protocol (with great results thanks to Jack W6FB) and thought they may 
> have some high level similarities, but not really.
> 
> Do you know how the KAT500 interprets frequency, if driving only the 
> band data lines (BAND0-3) via an external TTL device?  Does it pick 
> middle of the band if there is no last used frequency?
> 
> 73,
> 
> Cliff K3LL
> 
> -Original Message-
> From: Cliff Frescura [mailto:c...@cfcorp.com]
> Sent: Sunday, November 15, 2015 2:58 PM
> To: 'Cady, Fred'; 'Elecraft@mailman.qth.net'
> Subject: RE: [Elecraft] KAT500 Re-Tuning
> 
> Apparently yes.  However, I'm using the KAT500 serial port to 
> communicate frequency to the KAT500 via logging software (DXLabs), not 
> auxBus, since the radio is not a K3/S.
> 
> 73,
> 
> Cliff K3LL
> 
> -Original Message-
> From: Cady, Fred [mailto:fc...@montana.edu]
> Sent: Sunday, November 15, 2015 2:28 PM
> To: Cliff Frescura; Elecraft@mailman.qth.net
> Subject: Re: [Elecraft] KAT500 Re-Tuning
> 
> Are you asking for the KAT500 to choose two different tuning solutions 
> when operating split?  At present it chooses the VFO B frequency for 
> its solution according to:
> 
> MCU 4.83 / DSP 2.82, 2-8-2014
> 
> * FSK-D (RTTY) POWER-CONTROL BUG FIX: Power output can now be 
> increased while in transmit mode when using FSK-D.
> 
> * KAT500 ATU SUPPORT: Automatic retuning of KAT500 LC network as K3 
> VFO is moved. VFO frequency messages are sent via the auxBus. Sends 
> VFO A frequency except in SPLIT mode, where VFO B frequency is sent.
> 
> Cheers,
> Fred KE7X
> www.ke7x.com for all KE7X Elecraft books.
> 
> From: Elecraft  on behalf of Cliff 
> Frescura 
> Sent: Sunday, November 15, 2015 3:09 PM
> To: elecraft@mailman.qth.net
> Subject: Re: [Elecraft] KAT500 Re-Tuning
> 
> Antenna issues specific to the OP aside, there is a valid reason to 
> have the
> KAT500 recognize split and inhibit retuning/recall.
> 
> The need for this functionality is very apparent when running split on 
> 40m SSB when the DX is below 7.1 MHz and listening up much higher than 
> 5KHz for anyone using a narrow bandwidth 40m antenna.  Consider that 
> the KAT500 already tuned the antenna on your TX, so the "fix the antenna
solution"
> doesn't apply.  Listening ~50KHz away should not require any retuning 
> since the tuner's settings at your TX should be good enough for RX.
> 
> Here is how it would work:
> 
> 1. When the KAT500 sees a *transition* from split off to split on...
>a. The KAT500 would recall settings for TX Frequency or retune 
> (under the VSWR settings condition) when it sees RF for the first time 
> after this split transition 2. When split is on (Split mode)
>b. The tuner should not change any settings regardless of 
> frequency/band - except under VSWR conditions based on settings.
>c. Perhaps both the "Auto" and "Man" indicators would be on in 
> order to indicate this mode on the KAT front panel.
> 3. When the KAT500 sees a transition from split on to split off then 
> go into "normal" (non Split) mode.
> 
> The main reason I am using the tuner is because of a compromise 
> antenna.  If the antenna was flat enough across the band I wouldn't 
> even engage it.  In my specific situation there is also at KPA500 
> connected, so the way that the
> KAT500 works today will result in the KAT inhibiting the KPA while it 
> retunes/recalls.  Although fast, I suspect that the amp is not engaged 
> initially when I send (speak) my call sign in the pile.  On very rare 
> occasions there is also a KPA VSWR Fault.  Wh

Re: [Elecraft] KAT500 Re-Tuning

[Cliff Frescura]

I went back and reviewed the KAT500 command set and it doesn't look like
this is possible because the serial protocol does not have a way to
communicate split status.  I've been knee deep in the KPA500 serial protocol
(with great results thanks to Jack W6FB) and thought they may have some high
level similarities, but not really.

Do you know how the KAT500 interprets frequency, if driving only the band
data lines (BAND0-3) via an external TTL device?  Does it pick middle of the
band if there is no last used frequency?

73,

Cliff K3LL

-Original Message-----
From: Cliff Frescura [mailto:c...@cfcorp.com] 
Sent: Sunday, November 15, 2015 2:58 PM
To: 'Cady, Fred'; 'Elecraft@mailman.qth.net'
Subject: RE: [Elecraft] KAT500 Re-Tuning

Apparently yes.  However, I'm using the KAT500 serial port to communicate
frequency to the KAT500 via logging software (DXLabs), not auxBus, since the
radio is not a K3/S.

73,

Cliff K3LL

-Original Message-
From: Cady, Fred [mailto:fc...@montana.edu]
Sent: Sunday, November 15, 2015 2:28 PM
To: Cliff Frescura; Elecraft@mailman.qth.net
Subject: Re: [Elecraft] KAT500 Re-Tuning

Are you asking for the KAT500 to choose two different tuning solutions when
operating split?  At present it chooses the VFO B frequency for its solution
according to:

MCU 4.83 / DSP 2.82, 2-8-2014

* FSK-D (RTTY) POWER-CONTROL BUG FIX: Power output can now be increased
while in transmit mode when using FSK-D.

* KAT500 ATU SUPPORT: Automatic retuning of KAT500 LC network as K3 VFO is
moved. VFO frequency messages are sent via the auxBus. Sends VFO A frequency
except in SPLIT mode, where VFO B frequency is sent.

Cheers,
Fred KE7X
www.ke7x.com for all KE7X Elecraft books.
____
From: Elecraft  on behalf of Cliff
Frescura 
Sent: Sunday, November 15, 2015 3:09 PM
To: elecraft@mailman.qth.net
Subject: Re: [Elecraft] KAT500 Re-Tuning

Antenna issues specific to the OP aside, there is a valid reason to have the
KAT500 recognize split and inhibit retuning/recall.

The need for this functionality is very apparent when running split on 40m
SSB when the DX is below 7.1 MHz and listening up much higher than 5KHz for
anyone using a narrow bandwidth 40m antenna.  Consider that the KAT500
already tuned the antenna on your TX, so the "fix the antenna solution"
doesn't apply.  Listening ~50KHz away should not require any retuning since
the tuner's settings at your TX should be good enough for RX.

Here is how it would work:

1. When the KAT500 sees a *transition* from split off to split on...
a. The KAT500 would recall settings for TX Frequency or retune
(under the VSWR settings condition) when it sees RF for the first time after
this split transition 2. When split is on (Split mode)
b. The tuner should not change any settings regardless of
frequency/band - except under VSWR conditions based on settings.
c. Perhaps both the "Auto" and "Man" indicators would be on in order
to indicate this mode on the KAT front panel.
3. When the KAT500 sees a transition from split on to split off then go into
"normal" (non Split) mode.

The main reason I am using the tuner is because of a compromise antenna.  If
the antenna was flat enough across the band I wouldn't even engage it.  In
my specific situation there is also at KPA500 connected, so the way that the
KAT500 works today will result in the KAT inhibiting the KPA while it
retunes/recalls.  Although fast, I suspect that the amp is not engaged
initially when I send (speak) my call sign in the pile.  On very rare
occasions there is also a KPA VSWR Fault.  While probably not an issue, the
amount of relay chatter in very short period of time between fast RX/TX/RX
transitions is a bit unsettling.

73,

Cliff K3LL


-Original Message-
From: Elecraft [mailto:elecraft-boun...@mailman.qth.net] On Behalf Of Jim
Brown
Sent: Sunday, November 15, 2015 10:04 AM
To: elecraft@mailman.qth.net
Subject: Re: [Elecraft] KAT500 Re-Tuning

On Sat,11/14/2015 8:37 PM, Byron Peebles wrote:
> I will put the antenna analyzer on it tomorrow and make sure it's 
> still solid after all this wind.

Other suggestions. First, put it on bypass and see what the SWR indication
is. If it's reasonable, go to MAN mode, force a tuning (put
K3 in TUN mode) and let it tune.

Carefully check the entire coax path between K3 and the antenna. All
connectors should be finger tight, then tighten with gas pliers.

Any indication that the coax is wet? Moisture entering anywhere along the
run will usually migrate all the way down to the lowest point. Open
connectors to see if there's any moisture. A good way to test is to use a
tissue or paper towel as a probe.

If you have TDR capability, look at the feedline for any discontinuities.
You should see connectors, the antenna, and any switching between the
antenna and your test point. Most vector an

Re: [Elecraft] KAT500 Re-Tuning

[Cliff Frescura]

Apparently yes.  However, I'm using the KAT500 serial port to communicate
frequency to the KAT500 via logging software (DXLabs), not auxBus, since the
radio is not a K3/S.

73,

Cliff K3LL

-Original Message-
From: Cady, Fred [mailto:fc...@montana.edu] 
Sent: Sunday, November 15, 2015 2:28 PM
To: Cliff Frescura; Elecraft@mailman.qth.net
Subject: Re: [Elecraft] KAT500 Re-Tuning

Are you asking for the KAT500 to choose two different tuning solutions when
operating split?  At present it chooses the VFO B frequency for its solution
according to:

MCU 4.83 / DSP 2.82, 2-8-2014

* FSK-D (RTTY) POWER-CONTROL BUG FIX: Power output can now be increased
while in transmit mode when using FSK-D.

* KAT500 ATU SUPPORT: Automatic retuning of KAT500 LC network as K3 VFO is
moved. VFO frequency messages are sent via the auxBus. Sends VFO A frequency
except in SPLIT mode, where VFO B frequency is sent.

Cheers,
Fred KE7X
www.ke7x.com for all KE7X Elecraft books.

From: Elecraft  on behalf of Cliff
Frescura 
Sent: Sunday, November 15, 2015 3:09 PM
To: elecraft@mailman.qth.net
Subject: Re: [Elecraft] KAT500 Re-Tuning

Antenna issues specific to the OP aside, there is a valid reason to have the
KAT500 recognize split and inhibit retuning/recall.

The need for this functionality is very apparent when running split on 40m
SSB when the DX is below 7.1 MHz and listening up much higher than 5KHz for
anyone using a narrow bandwidth 40m antenna.  Consider that the KAT500
already tuned the antenna on your TX, so the "fix the antenna solution"
doesn't apply.  Listening ~50KHz away should not require any retuning since
the tuner's settings at your TX should be good enough for RX.

Here is how it would work:

1. When the KAT500 sees a *transition* from split off to split on...
a. The KAT500 would recall settings for TX Frequency or retune
(under the VSWR settings condition) when it sees RF for the first time after
this split transition 2. When split is on (Split mode)
b. The tuner should not change any settings regardless of
frequency/band - except under VSWR conditions based on settings.
c. Perhaps both the "Auto" and "Man" indicators would be on in order
to indicate this mode on the KAT front panel.
3. When the KAT500 sees a transition from split on to split off then go into
"normal" (non Split) mode.

The main reason I am using the tuner is because of a compromise antenna.  If
the antenna was flat enough across the band I wouldn't even engage it.  In
my specific situation there is also at KPA500 connected, so the way that the
KAT500 works today will result in the KAT inhibiting the KPA while it
retunes/recalls.  Although fast, I suspect that the amp is not engaged
initially when I send (speak) my call sign in the pile.  On very rare
occasions there is also a KPA VSWR Fault.  While probably not an issue, the
amount of relay chatter in very short period of time between fast RX/TX/RX
transitions is a bit unsettling.

73,

Cliff K3LL


-Original Message-
From: Elecraft [mailto:elecraft-boun...@mailman.qth.net] On Behalf Of Jim
Brown
Sent: Sunday, November 15, 2015 10:04 AM
To: elecraft@mailman.qth.net
Subject: Re: [Elecraft] KAT500 Re-Tuning

On Sat,11/14/2015 8:37 PM, Byron Peebles wrote:
> I will put the antenna analyzer on it tomorrow and make sure it's 
> still solid after all this wind.

Other suggestions. First, put it on bypass and see what the SWR indication
is. If it's reasonable, go to MAN mode, force a tuning (put
K3 in TUN mode) and let it tune.

Carefully check the entire coax path between K3 and the antenna. All
connectors should be finger tight, then tighten with gas pliers.

Any indication that the coax is wet? Moisture entering anywhere along the
run will usually migrate all the way down to the lowest point. Open
connectors to see if there's any moisture. A good way to test is to use a
tissue or paper towel as a probe.

If you have TDR capability, look at the feedline for any discontinuities.
You should see connectors, the antenna, and any switching between the
antenna and your test point. Most vector analyzers can do TDR. If you don't
have one of them, ask around your ham neighbors to borrow one (and ask them
to help you do the measurement).

73, Jim K9YC
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Re: [Elecraft] KAT500 Re-Tuning

[Cliff Frescura]

Antenna issues specific to the OP aside, there is a valid reason to have the
KAT500 recognize split and inhibit retuning/recall.

The need for this functionality is very apparent when running split on 40m
SSB when the DX is below 7.1 MHz and listening up much higher than 5KHz for
anyone using a narrow bandwidth 40m antenna.  Consider that the KAT500
already tuned the antenna on your TX, so the "fix the antenna solution"
doesn't apply.  Listening ~50KHz away should not require any retuning since
the tuner's settings at your TX should be good enough for RX.

Here is how it would work:

1. When the KAT500 sees a *transition* from split off to split on...
a. The KAT500 would recall settings for TX Frequency or retune
(under the VSWR settings condition) when it sees RF for the first time after
this split transition
2. When split is on (Split mode)
b. The tuner should not change any settings regardless of
frequency/band - except under VSWR conditions based on settings.
c. Perhaps both the "Auto" and "Man" indicators would be on in order
to indicate this mode on the KAT front panel.
3. When the KAT500 sees a transition from split on to split off then go into
"normal" (non Split) mode.

The main reason I am using the tuner is because of a compromise antenna.  If
the antenna was flat enough across the band I wouldn't even engage it.  In
my specific situation there is also at KPA500 connected, so the way that the
KAT500 works today will result in the KAT inhibiting the KPA while it
retunes/recalls.  Although fast, I suspect that the amp is not engaged
initially when I send (speak) my call sign in the pile.  On very rare
occasions there is also a KPA VSWR Fault.  While probably not an issue, the
amount of relay chatter in very short period of time between fast RX/TX/RX
transitions is a bit unsettling.

73,

Cliff K3LL


-Original Message-
From: Elecraft [mailto:elecraft-boun...@mailman.qth.net] On Behalf Of Jim
Brown
Sent: Sunday, November 15, 2015 10:04 AM
To: elecraft@mailman.qth.net
Subject: Re: [Elecraft] KAT500 Re-Tuning

On Sat,11/14/2015 8:37 PM, Byron Peebles wrote:
> I will put the antenna analyzer on it tomorrow and make sure it's 
> still solid after all this wind.

Other suggestions. First, put it on bypass and see what the SWR indication
is. If it's reasonable, go to MAN mode, force a tuning (put
K3 in TUN mode) and let it tune.

Carefully check the entire coax path between K3 and the antenna. All
connectors should be finger tight, then tighten with gas pliers.

Any indication that the coax is wet? Moisture entering anywhere along the
run will usually migrate all the way down to the lowest point. Open
connectors to see if there's any moisture. A good way to test is to use a
tissue or paper towel as a probe.

If you have TDR capability, look at the feedline for any discontinuities.
You should see connectors, the antenna, and any switching between the
antenna and your test point. Most vector analyzers can do TDR. If you don't
have one of them, ask around your ham neighbors to borrow one (and ask them
to help you do the measurement).

73, Jim K9YC
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Re: [Elecraft] Speaker SP3 Video

[Cliff Frescura]

Sounds fine here.


Cliff K3LL

-Original Message-
From: Elecraft [mailto:elecraft-boun...@mailman.qth.net] On Behalf Of
Chester Alderman
Sent: Friday, November 06, 2015 1:43 PM
To: 'Steve Ellington'; elecraft@mailman.qth.net
Subject: Re: [Elecraft] Speaker SP3 Video

No audio on your video?

Tom - W4BQF



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Sent: Friday, November 6, 2015 4:26 PM
To: elecraft@mailman.qth.net
Subject: [Elecraft] Speaker SP3 Video

I just did a little video on the SP3.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=I2EmW46zgDw

Steve N4LQ
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Re: [Elecraft] K3S Radio check?

[Cliff Frescura]

I would start with your local AM Broadcast stations like WBT on 1100 KHz.  I
would then check out WWV on 5.0MHz, 10MHz, 15MHz, 20MHz as well as CHU in
Canada on 3.33MHz, 7.850MHz and 14.67MHz.  You might want to add these into
memory for easy recall.

Be mindful that time of day/current propagation/solar conditions will be in
play as well.

73,

Cliff K3LL/6

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From: Elecraft [mailto:elecraft-boun...@mailman.qth.net] On Behalf Of
ae...@carolinaheli.com
Sent: Sunday, October 11, 2015 12:20 PM
To: 'ELECRAFT'
Subject: [Elecraft] K3S Radio check?

 

I'm not sure if my antenna/coax/radio is deaf because I can hear some
signals. Is there a way to quantify and verify that at least the radio is
receiving as designed ? The K3S, antenna, and coax are all new. 

Without a signal generator or such I'm not sure how this can be
accomplished. I was only able to barely hear one or two people on the SSB
net and was not able to check in.  

I'm in the Charlotte NC area for reference. My dipole is at 35' broadside to
45 degrees. Due to the height I'd expect high angle radiation which should
help/work for NVIS and longer type contacts. 

 

Thanks in advance. 

 

 

 

Jerry Moore

CDXA, INDEXA, SKCC, Fists

AE4PB, K3S - S.N. 010324

http://www.qrz.com/db/AE4PB

An Amateur is - Considerate, Loyal, Progressive, Friendly, Balanced, and
Patriotic.

 

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Re: [Elecraft] [KAT500] PC Data to Amp Control?

[Cliff Frescura]

Update:

Bottom line is that the sniffer approach works.

Details:
1.  Ideally, the sniffer should *not* be attached to the radio (Kenwood) RS-232 
line, but to the secondary RS-232 line (Configured by DXLabs software).  It 
appears that KPA500 only responds to commands from DXLabs and not the radio (I 
suspect this is because polling is being used by DXLabs and not the Kenwood 
Auto Info command) - yes, I did try a pin 2/3 swap on the sniffer tap point.  
This also has implications when the KPA500 is turned on after frequency changes 
because it will know the current frequency (not fatal since it can RF Sense 
switch anyway).

2. The KPA500 seems to "look for" radio RS-232 data about every 5 seconds 
because that is the lag from the Kenwood changing frequency to the KPA changing 
bands.  A bit too long for me but tolerable.

Next Steps:
1. Move the sniffer to the KAT500 RS-232 line where DXLabs will send data via 
the Secondary COM Port (K3 native format) to the KAT500 when clicking on a spot 
or moving the Kenwood VFO.  Alas, I have the USB cable for the KAT500, so I 
need to get the RS-232 cable.

73,

Cliff K3LL/6



-Original Message-----
From: Cliff Frescura [mailto:c...@cfcorp.com] 
Sent: Friday, October 09, 2015 2:10 PM
To: 'Jack Brindle'
Cc: 'Elecraft Reflector'
Subject: RE: [Elecraft] [KAT500] PC Data to Amp Control?

Thanks Jack and others that replied off list.

I'm going to go with the y cable sniffer approach.  Since I don't use the amp 
all the time, I'd rather not have to power it up just so the KAT500 can receive 
commands from the Kenwood.

73,

Cliff K3ll

-Original Message-
From: Jack Brindle [mailto:jackbrin...@me.com]
Sent: Friday, October 09, 2015 12:55 PM
To: Cliff Frescura
Cc: Elecraft Reflector
Subject: Re: [Elecraft] [KAT500] PC Data to Amp Control?

Or connect the Kenwood’s serial port to the KPA500’s Radio port, then set the 
RADIO = SERIAL in the KPA.
Follow the directions in the KPA manual. This is exactly what that serial port 
is designed to do. Make sure you use the RADIO port, not the PC port for this.

If you connect the serial port from the TS-940 to a computer, just make a Y 
cable to allow the KPA to see the data going from the Radio to the computer. 
And make sure the TX line is not connected to the KPA.

Also note that the KPA will not interpret the data destined for the KAT500. It 
is specifically look for transceiver data on the Radio port, or KPA-specific 
commands on the PC port.

- Jack, W6FB


> On Oct 9, 2015, at 11:54 AM, Cliff Frescura  wrote:
> 
> Thanks Dick,
> 
> Looks like I could either have the KPA500 sniff the RS-232 line into 
> the
> KAT500 (use RXD pin only at the KPA500), or implement BAND0-3 and make 
> it minimally emulate a K3S into the KPA500.
> 
> 73,
> 
> Cliff K3LL
> 
> -Original Message-
> From: Dick Dievendorff [mailto:d...@elecraft.com]
> Sent: Friday, October 09, 2015 10:55 AM
> To: Cliff Frescura
> Cc: elecraft@mailman.qth.net
> Subject: Re: [Elecraft] [KAT500] PC Data to Amp Control?
> 
> The KAT500 can read, but not pull down the 4 band change lines. 
> 
> Dick, K6KR
> 
> Sent from my iPhone
> 
>> On Oct 8, 2015, at 21:07, Cliff Frescura  wrote:
>> 
>> Hi,
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> If I change bands on the KAT500 via the PC Data port, it appears that 
>> the new band data is not sent to the Amp Control connector.  Is this 
>> expected behavior? (hoping no).
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> For reference, my setup is:
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> Kenwood TS-940
>> 
>> DXLabs Logging program
>> 
>> KAT500
>> 
>> KPA500
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> The 940 is connected to the computer and controlled by DXLabs.  
>> DXLabs is configured to send commands to the KAT500 (follow the 940).  
>> This all works fine.  I'm now trying to have the KPA500 follow the
>> KAT500 via the Amp Control connector on the KAT500 (with E850463 cable).
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> 73,
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> Cliff K3LL
>> 
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Re: [Elecraft] [KAT500] PC Data to Amp Control?

[Cliff Frescura]

Thanks Jack and others that replied off list.

I'm going to go with the y cable sniffer approach.  Since I don't use the amp 
all the time, I'd rather not have to power it up just so the KAT500 can receive 
commands from the Kenwood.

73,

Cliff K3ll

-Original Message-
From: Jack Brindle [mailto:jackbrin...@me.com] 
Sent: Friday, October 09, 2015 12:55 PM
To: Cliff Frescura
Cc: Elecraft Reflector
Subject: Re: [Elecraft] [KAT500] PC Data to Amp Control?

Or connect the Kenwood’s serial port to the KPA500’s Radio port, then set the 
RADIO = SERIAL in the KPA.
Follow the directions in the KPA manual. This is exactly what that serial port 
is designed to do. Make sure you use the RADIO port, not the PC port for this.

If you connect the serial port from the TS-940 to a computer, just make a Y 
cable to allow the KPA to see the data going from the Radio to the computer. 
And make sure the TX line is not connected to the KPA.

Also note that the KPA will not interpret the data destined for the KAT500. It 
is specifically look for transceiver data on the Radio port, or KPA-specific 
commands on the PC port.

- Jack, W6FB


> On Oct 9, 2015, at 11:54 AM, Cliff Frescura  wrote:
> 
> Thanks Dick,
> 
> Looks like I could either have the KPA500 sniff the RS-232 line into 
> the
> KAT500 (use RXD pin only at the KPA500), or implement BAND0-3 and make 
> it minimally emulate a K3S into the KPA500.
> 
> 73,
> 
> Cliff K3LL
> 
> -Original Message-
> From: Dick Dievendorff [mailto:d...@elecraft.com]
> Sent: Friday, October 09, 2015 10:55 AM
> To: Cliff Frescura
> Cc: elecraft@mailman.qth.net
> Subject: Re: [Elecraft] [KAT500] PC Data to Amp Control?
> 
> The KAT500 can read, but not pull down the 4 band change lines. 
> 
> Dick, K6KR
> 
> Sent from my iPhone
> 
>> On Oct 8, 2015, at 21:07, Cliff Frescura  wrote:
>> 
>> Hi,
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> If I change bands on the KAT500 via the PC Data port, it appears that 
>> the new band data is not sent to the Amp Control connector.  Is this 
>> expected behavior? (hoping no).
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> For reference, my setup is:
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> Kenwood TS-940
>> 
>> DXLabs Logging program
>> 
>> KAT500
>> 
>> KPA500
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> The 940 is connected to the computer and controlled by DXLabs.  
>> DXLabs is configured to send commands to the KAT500 (follow the 940).  
>> This all works fine.  I'm now trying to have the KPA500 follow the 
>> KAT500 via the Amp Control connector on the KAT500 (with E850463 cable).
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> 73,
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> Cliff K3LL
>> 
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Re: [Elecraft] [KAT500] PC Data to Amp Control?

[Cliff Frescura]

Thanks Dick,

Looks like I could either have the KPA500 sniff the RS-232 line into the
KAT500 (use RXD pin only at the KPA500), or implement BAND0-3 and make it
minimally emulate a K3S into the KPA500.

73,

Cliff K3LL

-Original Message-
From: Dick Dievendorff [mailto:d...@elecraft.com] 
Sent: Friday, October 09, 2015 10:55 AM
To: Cliff Frescura
Cc: elecraft@mailman.qth.net
Subject: Re: [Elecraft] [KAT500] PC Data to Amp Control?

The KAT500 can read, but not pull down the 4 band change lines. 

Dick, K6KR

Sent from my iPhone

> On Oct 8, 2015, at 21:07, Cliff Frescura  wrote:
> 
> Hi,
> 
> 
> 
> If I change bands on the KAT500 via the PC Data port, it appears that 
> the new band data is not sent to the Amp Control connector.  Is this 
> expected behavior? (hoping no).
> 
> 
> 
> For reference, my setup is:
> 
> 
> 
> Kenwood TS-940
> 
> DXLabs Logging program
> 
> KAT500
> 
> KPA500
> 
> 
> 
> The 940 is connected to the computer and controlled by DXLabs.  DXLabs 
> is configured to send commands to the KAT500 (follow the 940).  This 
> all works fine.  I'm now trying to have the KPA500 follow the KAT500 
> via the Amp Control connector on the KAT500 (with E850463 cable).
> 
> 
> 
> 73,
> 
> 
> 
> Cliff K3LL
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[Elecraft] [KAT500] PC Data to Amp Control?

[Cliff Frescura]

Hi,

 

If I change bands on the KAT500 via the PC Data port, it appears that the
new band data is not sent to the Amp Control connector.  Is this expected
behavior? (hoping no).

 

For reference, my setup is:

 

Kenwood TS-940

DXLabs Logging program

KAT500

KPA500

 

The 940 is connected to the computer and controlled by DXLabs.  DXLabs is
configured to send commands to the KAT500 (follow the 940).  This all works
fine.  I'm now trying to have the KPA500 follow the KAT500 via the Amp
Control connector on the KAT500 (with E850463 cable).

 

73,

 

Cliff K3LL

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Re: [Elecraft] What out for VE7FYC

[Cliff Frescura]

Don't discount the possibility that someone hijacked his call sign -
especially if funds were not mailed to his physical address.

Cliff K3LL/6

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Sent: Tuesday, September 22, 2015 1:20 PM
To: elecraft@mailman.qth.net
Subject: Re: [Elecraft] What out for VE7FYC


Not so.  That callsign shows up several places on Google... was even a past
officer of the Pacific Northwest VHF Society.

I'm not saying that he's a crook or anything, and I wouldn't be surprised to
find that this complaint was the result of bad communication between the
parties, but the callsign seems legit.

Personally, I find these gripe posts with unproven accusations to be totally
annoying and out of place here.

Dave   AB7E



On 9/22/2015 1:04 PM, Jim Rogers wrote:
> Bill, To all appearances that call sign is bogus. The QRZ.com name of 
> record is unusual and and address composed only of BC, Canada is a bit 
> on the suspicious side. QRZ.com reports the call sign record as 
> unmanaged. That would be a "no sale" for me.  I hope you did not 
> suffer a loss.
>
> Jim, W4ATK
>
> On 9/22/2015 11:28 AM, W0WFH Bill via Elecraft wrote:
>> He will tell you he sending money via Paypal an nothing.  So don't 
>> ship himanything till you have funds in hand.He has been turned into 
>> Paypal Securitydepartment too.
>> Bill Hudson, W0WFH
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Re: [Elecraft] Product Suggestion - 500W Dummy Load

[Cliff Frescura]

Maybe the dummy load could be an option for the speaker /s

73,

Cliff K3LL

-Original Message-
From: Elecraft [mailto:elecraft-boun...@mailman.qth.net] On Behalf Of Fred 
Jensen
Sent: Thursday, September 17, 2015 7:36 PM
To: elecraft@mailman.qth.net
Subject: Re: [Elecraft] Product Suggestion - 500W Dummy Load

Strangely, these non-inductive resistors do not last forever.  When I came home 
from SE Asia to Houston in 67, I filled my Heath  with mineral oil [interesting 
story on a Sunday], and it measured 51 ohms DC.  Today, it measures 74 ohms DC.

73,

Fred K6DGW
- Northern California Contest Club
- CU in the 50th Running of the Cal QSO Party 3-4 Oct 2015
- www.cqp.org


On 9/17/2015 7:12 PM, GRANT YOUNGMAN wrote:
>
>> On 9/17/2015 8:19 PM, Byron Peebles wrote:
>>> I'd love to find Elecraft offering a 500W dummy load to match the K-Line.
>>> No one even makes a sturdy paint can anymore.
>>>
>
> Actually, Ameritron still makes a “Cantenna" style dummy load.  I’ve had the 
> same one sitting under my desk for 20+ years.
>
> Grant NQ5T

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Re: [Elecraft] Elecraft SP3 External Speaker details

[Cliff Frescura]

Didn't ask. But the web site lists the SP3 at $179

-Original Message-
From: Elecraft [mailto:elecraft-boun...@mailman.qth.net] On Behalf Of Brian
& Cyndi
Sent: Monday, September 14, 2015 1:06 PM
To: elecraft@mailman.qth.net
Subject: Re: [Elecraft] Elecraft SP3 External Speaker details

Did the boys at HamCon quote a price for the speaker?

73,
Brian, W6FVI


On 9/14/2015 11:51 AM, Cliff Frescura wrote:
> I don't know where it is made, but I was able to see one in the flesh 
> at HamCon this past weekend and it has a solid feel and weight to it 
> (in addition to sounding great too).  Seems like a no brainer addition to
me.
>
> One wish would be to have the headphone jack on the speaker and use 
> the input switch (as an output switch) to switch between headphone and 
> speaker, so that the headphones can stay plugged in (I modified my 
> SP-940 to work this way)
>
> 73,
>
> Cliff K3LL/6
>
> -Original Message-
> From: Elecraft [mailto:elecraft-boun...@mailman.qth.net] On Behalf Of 
> ae...@carolinaheli.com
> Sent: Monday, September 14, 2015 10:39 AM
> To: a...@sbcglobal.net; ae...@carolinaheli.com; 'Bob McGraw - K4TAX'; 
> 'Wayne Burdick'; 'Elecraft Reflector'
> Subject: Re: [Elecraft] Elecraft SP3 External Speaker details
>
> I guess I shouldn't have assumed anything but I did..
>
>
> -Original Message-
> From: Elecraft [mailto:elecraft-boun...@mailman.qth.net] On Behalf Of 
> a...@sbcglobal.net
> Sent: Monday, September 14, 2015 12:03 PM
> To: ae...@carolinaheli.com; 'Bob McGraw - K4TAX'; 'Wayne Burdick'; 
> 'Elecraft Reflector'
> Subject: Re: [Elecraft] Elecraft SP3 External Speaker details
>
> Jerry's (AE4PB) post and others suggest new speaker is actually made 
> in the USA.  Is that true??
> Mike  AC5P
>
>
>   On Monday, September 14, 2015 10:34 AM, "ae...@carolinaheli.com"
>  wrote:
> 
>
>   I believe when you consider the engineering reputation of Elecraft 
> and economies of scale for the manufacture of the SP3 several 
> expectations
> arise:
> 1. This is likely a very well-engineered component that's not easily 
> replaced by a similar sized speaker.
> 2. Performance of the speaker exceeds similarly priced speakers (and 
> definitely less expensive ones to a degree).
> 3. There is NOT likely a premium baked in to the price for the 
> Elecraft name due to the economies of scale (low quantity manufacture 
> generally means higher costs, thus higher price). Translation - the 
> price isn't just for the name.
>
> At the end of the day consider the labor costs plus parts are likely 
> fairly high if they are US manufactured.
>
> The US consumer is the sole reason most US manufacturing has gone 
> overseas (especially China). Buy cheap, get cheap.
>
> So it comes down to a question of quality vs "good enough" vs "price"
>
> I can only speak for myself in saying that it means something to have 
> a matching set rather than a hodgepodge.
> I do compromise and use what I have to be able to get the job done 
> UNTIL I've saved enough for the next piece.
>
> Personally the SP3 is last on my list because most if not all of my 
> operating will be with headphones.
> The point here is that it's on my list :)
>
>
>
> Jerry Moore
> AE4PB, K3S SN# Arrives Wed.
>
>
>
>
>
>
> -Original Message-
> From: Elecraft [mailto:elecraft-boun...@mailman.qth.net] On Behalf Of 
> Bob McGraw - K4TAX
> Sent: Sunday, September 13, 2015 3:28 PM
> To: Wayne Burdick; Elecraft Reflector
> Subject: Re: [Elecraft] Elecraft SP3 External Speaker details
>
> New products are always welcome.  I look forward to "hearing them" at 
> maybe one of the next ham fests.  I like the fact the SP3 uses an oval
speaker.
> I've never figured out exactly why, but I find ovals typically do 
> sound better than rounds, but maybe it seems to be only in my findings.
>
> As a comment, I prefer non-amplified speakers as this avoids the 
> potential RFI issues when used with the radio.  The model that I 
> mentioned and use has a slight tilt to the bottom which aligns the 
> front with the K3S with its front elevated by the stand.
>
> I also find the audio system in the K3S to be really nice, specially 
> the
> 2 channel effect using the AFX feature along with a stereo speaker 
> configuration.  This give a nice wide spatial effect to which I find 
> very pleasing.  Thanks Wayne and company for doing a fine job with the 
> K3S and its new features.
>
> 73
> Bob, K4TAX
> K3S s/n 10,163
>
> On 9/13/2015 2:09 PM, Wayne Burdick wrote:
>> Hi al

Re: [Elecraft] Elecraft SP3 External Speaker details

[Cliff Frescura]

I don't know where it is made, but I was able to see one in the flesh at
HamCon this past weekend and it has a solid feel and weight to it (in
addition to sounding great too).  Seems like a no brainer addition to me.

One wish would be to have the headphone jack on the speaker and use the
input switch (as an output switch) to switch between headphone and speaker,
so that the headphones can stay plugged in (I modified my SP-940 to work
this way)

73, 

Cliff K3LL/6

-Original Message-
From: Elecraft [mailto:elecraft-boun...@mailman.qth.net] On Behalf Of
ae...@carolinaheli.com
Sent: Monday, September 14, 2015 10:39 AM
To: a...@sbcglobal.net; ae...@carolinaheli.com; 'Bob McGraw - K4TAX'; 'Wayne
Burdick'; 'Elecraft Reflector'
Subject: Re: [Elecraft] Elecraft SP3 External Speaker details

I guess I shouldn't have assumed anything but I did..


-Original Message-
From: Elecraft [mailto:elecraft-boun...@mailman.qth.net] On Behalf Of
a...@sbcglobal.net
Sent: Monday, September 14, 2015 12:03 PM
To: ae...@carolinaheli.com; 'Bob McGraw - K4TAX'; 'Wayne Burdick'; 'Elecraft
Reflector'
Subject: Re: [Elecraft] Elecraft SP3 External Speaker details

Jerry's (AE4PB) post and others suggest new speaker is actually made in the
USA.  Is that true??
Mike  AC5P   


 On Monday, September 14, 2015 10:34 AM, "ae...@carolinaheli.com"
 wrote:
   

 I believe when you consider the engineering reputation of Elecraft and
economies of scale for the manufacture of the SP3 several expectations
arise:
1. This is likely a very well-engineered component that's not easily
replaced by a similar sized speaker. 
2. Performance of the speaker exceeds similarly priced speakers (and
definitely less expensive ones to a degree). 
3. There is NOT likely a premium baked in to the price for the Elecraft name
due to the economies of scale (low quantity manufacture generally means
higher costs, thus higher price). Translation - the price isn't just for the
name.

At the end of the day consider the labor costs plus parts are likely fairly
high if they are US manufactured. 

The US consumer is the sole reason most US manufacturing has gone overseas
(especially China). Buy cheap, get cheap.

So it comes down to a question of quality vs "good enough" vs "price" 

I can only speak for myself in saying that it means something to have a
matching set rather than a hodgepodge. 
I do compromise and use what I have to be able to get the job done UNTIL
I've saved enough for the next piece. 

Personally the SP3 is last on my list because most if not all of my
operating will be with headphones. 
The point here is that it's on my list :)



Jerry Moore
AE4PB, K3S SN# Arrives Wed. 






-Original Message-
From: Elecraft [mailto:elecraft-boun...@mailman.qth.net] On Behalf Of Bob
McGraw - K4TAX
Sent: Sunday, September 13, 2015 3:28 PM
To: Wayne Burdick; Elecraft Reflector
Subject: Re: [Elecraft] Elecraft SP3 External Speaker details

New products are always welcome.  I look forward to "hearing them" at maybe
one of the next ham fests.  I like the fact the SP3 uses an oval speaker.
I've never figured out exactly why, but I find ovals typically do sound
better than rounds, but maybe it seems to be only in my findings.

As a comment, I prefer non-amplified speakers as this avoids the potential
RFI issues when used with the radio.  The model that I mentioned and use has
a slight tilt to the bottom which aligns the front with the K3S with its
front elevated by the stand.

I also find the audio system in the K3S to be really nice, specially the
2 channel effect using the AFX feature along with a stereo speaker
configuration.  This give a nice wide spatial effect to which I find very
pleasing.  Thanks Wayne and company for doing a fine job with the K3S and
its new features.

73
Bob, K4TAX
K3S s/n 10,163

On 9/13/2015 2:09 PM, Wayne Burdick wrote:
> Hi all,
>
> The K3 or K3S will work with a wide range of speakers, including the 
> ones
Bob (K4TAX) mentioned.
>
> Here are some possible reasons for using an SP3:
>
> - matches the K-Line perfectly, including a rugged fold-up tilt stand
> - full stereo A/B source selection, supporting dual-rig and 
> dual-speaker configurations (or both)
> - plenty of room inside the cabinet for built-ins that might improve 
> station integration
>
> Of course these factors don't apply to everyone. But the good news is 
> that we will no longer have to say "maybe next year" every time 
> someone asks us to add a matching speaker to the product line :)
>
> 73,
> Wayne
> N6KR
>
>
> Bob McGraw - K4TAX  wrote:
>
>> I use a pair of "off the shelf" brand speakers which have 2" x 4" 
>> ovals
in a nice efficient solid enclosure that is 5" deep
>
>
>
>
>


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Re: [Elecraft] Icom IC-7300

[Cliff Frescura]

+1000

And does this rig have the CAT fix for split?

 Original message From: Tony Estep 
 Date:09/02/2015  5:48 PM  (GMT-08:00) 
To: Elecraft Reflector  
Subject: Re: [Elecraft] Icom IC-7300 
I note that it has only one tuning knob, which in turn probably means you
can't do the standard dx-split operating technique. If that's the case,
then no matter what fancy gizmos it may boast, it would be of no interest
to me, and some others might feel the same.

Tony KT0NY
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[Elecraft] KPA500 Temperature Display

[Cliff Frescura]

Hi,

 

Would it be possible to allow the ability to show temperature in degrees F
or C in the next firmware update?

 

Thanks,

 

Cliff K3LL

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Re: [Elecraft] Fw: Don't have a 50W dummy load

[Cliff Frescura]

" Using a 100W light bulb will not provide the required impedance, and will
produce inaccurate results and possible damage the transceiver."

True, also - In the "old days" there was no need to specify *incandescent*
light bulb.  Wonder what would happen with a CFL or LED lamp (do not try
this)?

The key word is Resistive.

73,

Cliff K3LL

-Original Message-
From: Elecraft [mailto:elecraft-boun...@mailman.qth.net] On Behalf Of Matt
VK2RQ
Sent: Wednesday, March 25, 2015 11:52 AM
To: Bob Gibson
Cc: Elecraft Reflector
Subject: Re: [Elecraft] Fw: Don't have a 50W dummy load

For the calibration procedure, you need the load to be a known 50 ohm
resistive impedance. Using a 100W light bulb will not provide the required
impedance, and will produce inaccurate results and possible damage the
transceiver.

73, Matt VK2RQ

> On 26 Mar 2015, at 5:25 am, Bob Gibson via Elecraft
 wrote:
> 
>  HOW ABOUT A LAMP WITH 100 WATT BLUB, THATS ALL US OLD GUYS HAD!   73s Bob
W5RG
> 
>- Forwarded Message -
>  From: Warren Merkel 
> To: elecraft@mailman.qth.net
> Sent: Wednesday, March 25, 2015 1:17 PM
> Subject: Re: [Elecraft] Don't have a 50W dummy load
> 
> That kit from OHR looks nicely done.  I wonder if the pcb was immersed in
a gallon can of mineral oil instead of the included case, how much more
power could it withstand then?  5x-10x maybe?  I could use the enclosure for
something else. Otherwise I'd get a full paint can kit off ebay for about
the same $.
> 
> Warren KD4Z
> 
>> On March 24, 2015 5:39:04 PM EDT, Brian  wrote:
>> Excellent advice Don.  I bought a 100w dummy load kit from OHR. It's 
>> called the RFL-100 and it's about $40, comes in a very nice cabinet, 
>> and takes less than an hour to build.  It has come in handy more 
>> times than
>> 
>> I can count.
>> 
>> http://www.ohr.com/rfl100.htm
>> 
>> Oak Hills has some good goods.
>> 
>> 73 de KB9BVN
>> Brian Murrey
> 
> 
> --
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> 
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Re: [Elecraft] [Bulk] OT: Verizon's response to Net Neutrality: in Morse code!!

[Cliff Frescura]

In my younger years I thought of the FCC of a regulatory and technology
body.  My thinking changed when UPS successfully lobbied the FCC in 1989 to
reallocate part of 220MHz from Amateur to Commercial service.

UPS argued that the reallocation was in the "public interest" and they would
put the spectrum to good use.

After a ruling in their favor, UPS never commercially deployed and the
spectrum was unused for quite some time.

Be sure to read the fine print and understand the players.  One person's
regulation is another person's corporatism.

73,

K3LL/6

-Original Message-
From: Elecraft [mailto:elecraft-boun...@mailman.qth.net] On Behalf Of Jim
Brown
Sent: Thursday, February 26, 2015 10:28 PM
To: elecraft@mailman.qth.net
Subject: Re: [Elecraft] [Bulk] OT: Verizon's response to Net Neutrality: in
Morse code!!

I'm with you, Phil.  As I recall, you're retired FCC staff.  If anyone
understands FCC Rules, you do.

I WANT (caps added for emphasis) FCC regulation of our airwaves, and of our
internet. I'm old enough to remember when the FCC had staff to enforce their
Rules, and things were much better then. We lived in fear of the FCC, and
kept our noses clean. Anyone who subscribes to cable has experienced bills
that increase for no reason, and when it's the only game in town, as it is
for my internet, all we can do is pay it. So YES, YES, YES, I want someone
sitting in Comcast's shoulder. These assholes are billing me monthly rent
for a cable modem that I BOUGHT from a local store in 2006, and there isn't
a damned thing I can do about it. YES, I want regulation!

Now, those who demand "small government" have made the FCC toothless,
without the budget to enforce their own Rules. THAT'S why we have RF noise
from all those consumer devices that make it difficult to use our ham
stations, and even to tune in AM radio.

73, Jim K9YC

On Thu,2/26/2015 8:09 PM, Phil Kane wrote:
> That's what all the Title II fracas is about.  Those of us in the 
> professional (regulatory) field fault the FCC of 20 years ago for not 
> insisting on that but creating this "information service" category 
> rather than putting them in the "telecommunications service" category 
> from the beginning.
>
> As hams we are used to having the FCC look over our shoulders to make 
> sure that we play by the rules.  It's time that the "broadband"
> infrastructure providers get a taste of that.

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Re: [Elecraft] [Bulk] OT: Verizon's response to Net Neutrality: in Morse code!!

[Cliff Frescura]

*Netflix* got what they wanted.  They had better lobbyists and took a
dispute between them and Comcast, expanded the scope to include the entire
internet, and then got the .gov on their side.  

73,

K3LL/6

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From: Elecraft [mailto:elecraft-boun...@mailman.qth.net] On Behalf Of Joe
Subich, W4TV
Sent: Thursday, February 26, 2015 8:30 PM
To: elecraft@mailman.qth.net
Subject: Re: [Elecraft] [Bulk] OT: Verizon's response to Net Neutrality: in
Morse code!!

On 2015-02-26 11:08 PM, W0MU Mike Fatchett wrote:
> Has anyone read the regulations that they kept hidden?  Do we really 
> know what is in them?

Look at the last set of "Net Neutrality" regulations from the FCC - the ones
that the industry had over turned on the grounds that the Commission did not
have the authority to adopt them because "Broadband was not a utility".

Seems to me the industry got what they wanted  forced the Commission to
reclassify "Information Service" as "Communications Utility."  Voice and
cable have been regulated as utilities for a very long time - who in their
right mind would consider broadband data delivered on the very same networks
to be anything other than a utility for the very reasons that voice and
cable are utilities?

73,

... Joe, W4TV
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