Re: [Elecraft] KX1 initial LCD test
"XV 1.6e" is a transverter part. I bet it got tossed into the wrong bin in the kitting area. I'm sure Elecraft will send you a replacement on Monday if you ask. The good news is it lights up, so power must be getting to at least some of the parts. :-) Craig -Original Message- From: elecraft-boun...@mailman.qth.net [mailto:elecraft-boun...@mailman.qth.net] On Behalf Of Mike KB4WJA Sent: Saturday, May 02, 2009 10:31 AM To: elecraft@mailman.qth.net Subject: Re: [Elecraft] KX1 initial LCD test Thanks Craig. It was the only 28 pin IC included. I wonder what the XV 1.6e designation is? I guess I will find out soon. 73, Mike -Original Message----- From: Craig Rairdin (via Nabble) [mailto:ml-user+39229-31982...@n2.nabble.com] Sent: Saturday, May 02, 2009 11:23 AM To: Mike KB4WJA Subject: Re: [Elecraft] KX1 initial LCD test U1 appears to be the wrong part. It should say "KX1 1.02". Craig NZ0R K3/100 #25 K2/100 #4941 K1 #1966 KX1 #1499 -Original Message- From: elecraft-boun...@... <http://n2.nabble.com/user/SendEmail.jtp?type=node&node=2769244&i=0> [mailto:elecraft-boun...@... <http://n2.nabble.com/user/SendEmail.jtp?type=node&node=2769244&i=1> ] On Behalf Of Mike KB4WJA Sent: Saturday, May 02, 2009 9:43 AM To: elecr...@... <http://n2.nabble.com/user/SendEmail.jtp?type=node&node=2769244&i=2> Subject: [Elecraft] KX1 initial LCD test When I power up on the initial board test, I get only two backward h's in the right portion of the LCD. Any idea what the problem is? I went back over the work and reheated solder joints. I went through the manual again checked that I had instsalled all to this point. U1 seems to be seated okay in the holder. http://n2.nabble.com/file/n2768339/P5010129.jpg Thanks, Mike K1 SN #150 -- View this message in context: http://n2.nabble.com/KX1-initial-LCD-test-tp2768339p2768339.html Sent from the Elecraft mailing list archive at Nabble.com. __ Elecraft mailing list Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm Post: mailto:elecr...@... <http://n2.nabble.com/user/SendEmail.jtp?type=node&node=2769244&i=3> This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html __ Elecraft mailing list Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm Post: mailto:elecr...@... <http://n2.nabble.com/user/SendEmail.jtp?type=node&node=2769244&i=4> This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html _ This email is a reply to your post @ http://n2.nabble.com/KX1-initial-LCD-test-tp2768339p2769244.html You can reply by email or by visting the link above. -- View this message in context: http://n2.nabble.com/KX1-initial-LCD-test-tp2768339p2769414.html Sent from the Elecraft mailing list archive at Nabble.com. __ Elecraft mailing list Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm Post: mailto:Elecraft@mailman.qth.net This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html __ Elecraft mailing list Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm Post: mailto:Elecraft@mailman.qth.net This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html
Re: [Elecraft] KX1 initial LCD test
U1 appears to be the wrong part. It should say "KX1 1.02". Craig NZ0R K3/100 #25 K2/100 #4941 K1 #1966 KX1 #1499 -Original Message- From: elecraft-boun...@mailman.qth.net [mailto:elecraft-boun...@mailman.qth.net] On Behalf Of Mike KB4WJA Sent: Saturday, May 02, 2009 9:43 AM To: elecraft@mailman.qth.net Subject: [Elecraft] KX1 initial LCD test When I power up on the initial board test, I get only two backward h's in the right portion of the LCD. Any idea what the problem is? I went back over the work and reheated solder joints. I went through the manual again checked that I had instsalled all to this point. U1 seems to be seated okay in the holder. http://n2.nabble.com/file/n2768339/P5010129.jpg Thanks, Mike K1 SN #150 -- View this message in context: http://n2.nabble.com/KX1-initial-LCD-test-tp2768339p2768339.html Sent from the Elecraft mailing list archive at Nabble.com. __ Elecraft mailing list Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm Post: mailto:Elecraft@mailman.qth.net This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html __ Elecraft mailing list Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm Post: mailto:Elecraft@mailman.qth.net This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html
[Elecraft] KX1 guide for non-builders
I just finished building a KX1 for a friend and it occurred to me that you pick up a lot of information about the radio during the build process that could come in handy as an owner/operator of the radio. Unfortunately this information is lost if someone else builds your KX1 or if you buy one on eBay. I wrote up a little 3-page guide for my friend and thought some of you might find it useful. I've posted it as a PDF on my site: http://www.craigr.com/Elecraft%20KX1%20Maintenance%20Guide.pdf If you have trouble with the link just let me know and I'll send it to you. The goal of the guide is not to repeat information from the manuals but to help you find it. In some cases (such as a complete disassembly procedure) there's nothing in the manual. In other cases (such as receiver alignment) the procedure is split between two or more manuals. Hope it's useful. Craig NZ0R K3/100 #25 K2/100 #4941 K1 #1966 KX1 #1499 __ Elecraft mailing list Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm Post: mailto:Elecraft@mailman.qth.net This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html
[Elecraft] KX1 Kynar wire
What's up with this Kynar wire in the KX1 kit? I seem to recall this problem when building my first KX1. The second one is no better. It's impossible to strip it without causing it to break - either during stripping or after it's soldered to the board. My "as seen on TV" wire stripper just cuts it. If I carefully roll it under my exacto knife it either breaks when I pull off the insulation or after I solder it to the board and bend it allow the board to mount flat against the KX1 board. I don't think stripping it is causing the problem. Even when I burn the insulation off so there are no nicks in the wire it breaks when you manipulate it. I've blown through the supply in the kit. The wire just disintegrates when I touch or move it. I'll order more on Monday, though I'm thinking I'm going to need a spool. I may pick up some locally so I can continue building. The wire seems unnecessarily fancy for this job. I'm sure Radio Shack has some lamp cord I could use that would accomplish the same thing. Well, maybe something a little lighter than that. But certainly anything would work, right? Any suggestions for handling this wire so it doesn't just fall apart in your hands? Craig NZ0R KX1 #1499 K1 #1966 K2/100 #4941 K3/100 #25 __ Elecraft mailing list Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm Post: mailto:Elecraft@mailman.qth.net This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html
[Elecraft] [KX1] Manual revision history
I'm about to launch into building KX1 #1541 which I've had for a while. My manual is Rev B; I see Rev C is current. I've searched the Elecraft Web site and can't find a list of changes between versions of the manual, nor can I find any notes about any modifications that might be needed to bring an older kit up to the latest specs. I found "Builder's Alert #1" from April 10, 2006. This particular alert is incorporated into the errata sheets in my KXB3080. What I'm curious about is what other changes prompted the update from Rev B to Rev C? I'd like to be completely up-to-date when I'm done. Craig NZ0R __ Elecraft mailing list Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm Post: mailto:Elecraft@mailman.qth.net This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html
RE: [Elecraft] Two K3's, Same Band, Same Time?
I don't know about two K3's but I can tell you that my K3 was swamped during Field Day by the phone station operating with a beam pointed away from me, directly off the end of my dipole, separated by about that 500' distance. That was CW vs SSB frequency spacing. We were ok when operating on separate bands; just not on the same band. Craig NZ0R K3/100 #25 K2/100 #4941 K1 #1966 KX1 #1499 "When you spread the wealth around, it's good for everybody." -- Barack Obama "From each according to his ability, to each according to his need" -- Karl Marx "You can choose policies that invest in our middle-class and create new jobs and grow this economy from the bottom-up." -- Barack Obama "It will be the workers, with their courage, resolution and self-sacrifice, who will be chiefly responsible for achieving victory." -- Karl Marx -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Dan Levin Sent: Tuesday, October 28, 2008 11:02 PM To: elecraft@mailman.qth.net Subject: [Elecraft] Two K3's, Same Band, Same Time? For Sweepstakes, we are thinking about using a large multi-multi contesting station to house two separate single operator efforts. The station has two yagi antennas on each band, separated by about 500 feet, and element tip to element tip when beaming the US (antennas pointed in parallel). The thought has crossed my mind that two K3's in such a situation might be able to deal with the other signal, even strong and so close, if one station is at the low end of the band (say 14005) and the other is at the high end of the band (say 14075). Would anyone care to weigh in about the likelihood of the receivers surviving such behavior? ***dan, K6IF ___ Elecraft mailing list Post to: Elecraft@mailman.qth.net You must be a subscriber to post to the list. Subscriber Info (Addr. Change, sub, unsub etc.): http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/subscribers.htm Elecraft web page: http://www.elecraft.com ___ Elecraft mailing list Post to: Elecraft@mailman.qth.net You must be a subscriber to post to the list. Subscriber Info (Addr. Change, sub, unsub etc.): http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/subscribers.htm Elecraft web page: http://www.elecraft.com
RE: [Elecraft] K3 Positions - Warranty
That's a good protection against theft. I have a friend who puts a sticker inside all his computer and radio equipment that has his name, address, and phone and it says, "I service all my own equipment. If you've been asked to repair this item please call me immediately." Craig NZ0R -Original Message- From: Eric Swartz - WA6HHQ, Elecraft [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Tuesday, December 11, 2007 7:35 PM To: Thom LaCosta Cc: Craig Rairdin; elecraft@mailman.qth.net Subject: Re: [Elecraft] K3 Positions - Warranty We will warranty the K3 for its normal period, regardless of the owner. :-) But we will need confirmation for the original purchaser that they have sold the radio when we get a request from a new owner for warranty service. 73, Eric WA6HHQ Elecraft Thom LaCosta wrote: > On Sat, 8 Dec 2007, Craig Rairdin wrote: >> Remember you're not really selling your position, you're selling your >> radio >> after you get it. Again, Elecraft doesn't need to be involved. > When, and if, Elecraft states that they would honor the warranty for > radio x shipped to cutomer a, who sold it to customer b, then I'd > believe it. > > 73 - k3hrn ___ Elecraft mailing list Post to: Elecraft@mailman.qth.net You must be a subscriber to post to the list. Subscriber Info (Addr. Change, sub, unsub etc.): http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/subscribers.htm Elecraft web page: http://www.elecraft.com
RE: [Elecraft] K3 Positions - Warranty
This is just as I suspected, since that's what it says in their warranty. It's what I've been trying to say throughout this discussion. Craig NZ0R -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Don Rasmussen Sent: Tuesday, December 11, 2007 8:24 PM To: elecraft@mailman.qth.net Subject: [Elecraft] K3 Positions - Warranty This is a "stand up" company and these are two stand up guys. I expected no less - but quite elated to read it in print. [Elecraft] K3 Positions - Warranty Eric Swartz - WA6HHQ, Elecraft eric at elecraft.com Tue Dec 11 20:34:57 EST 2007 Previous message: [Elecraft] K3 Positions - Warranty Next message: [Elecraft] K3 Positions We will warranty the K3 for its normal period, regardless of the owner. :-) 73, Eric WA6HHQ Elecraft ___ Elecraft mailing list Post to: Elecraft@mailman.qth.net You must be a subscriber to post to the list. Subscriber Info (Addr. Change, sub, unsub etc.): http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/subscribers.htm Elecraft web page: http://www.elecraft.com ___ Elecraft mailing list Post to: Elecraft@mailman.qth.net You must be a subscriber to post to the list. Subscriber Info (Addr. Change, sub, unsub etc.): http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/subscribers.htm Elecraft web page: http://www.elecraft.com
RE: [Elecraft] K3 Filter Switching Problem?
> BTW: FL1 should be the highest bandwidth and FL5 the most narrow Other way around, but it actually doesn't matter. Any filter can be in any slot and the DSP will select the right one as you crank the bandwidth down. The reason for keeping them in some order is so that when you rotate through them with XFIL they'll make sense (i.e. they get narrower and narrower each time you press, then when you're at your narrowest the next press takes you to your widest). Craig NZ0R K3/100 #25 -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Ad Spaninks (PE1FTV) Sent: Monday, December 10, 2007 5:30 PM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]; elecraft@mailman.qth.net Subject: RE: [Elecraft] K3 Filter Switching Problem? Just set FL1 to "OFF" in the config menu Henry. That will stop the strange behaviour. 73, Ad (pe1ftv) ___ Elecraft mailing list Post to: Elecraft@mailman.qth.net You must be a subscriber to post to the list. Subscriber Info (Addr. Change, sub, unsub etc.): http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/subscribers.htm Elecraft web page: http://www.elecraft.com
RE: [Elecraft] K3 Assembly special tools
> Some builders have suggested that a special tool in needed for some of > the assembly, eg a grabber type to hold screws and washers. There were only two times when I needed anything other than my fingers to hold a nut or washer. I was able to use a magnetized screwdriver in one case and a needle-nose pliers in the other and it worked fine. One was related to the KPA3 module and I think the other was the general-coverage receive module. Craig NZ0R K3/100 #25 ___ Elecraft mailing list Post to: Elecraft@mailman.qth.net You must be a subscriber to post to the list. Subscriber Info (Addr. Change, sub, unsub etc.): http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/subscribers.htm Elecraft web page: http://www.elecraft.com
RE: [Elecraft] [K3] Assembly
You should be fine unless you're storing a copy of the firmware on a floppy disk near your assembly area. ;-) Craig NZ0R -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of David Pratt Sent: Sunday, December 09, 2007 12:19 PM To: Elecraft Reflector Subject: Re: [Elecraft] [K3] Assembly In a recent message, Corboy-Poteet <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote ... >This may be common sense and/or mentioned in the Assembly Manual but: >if your Phillips screwdriver does not have a magnetized tip it would >be a good idea to find a magnet and lightly magnetize the tip. Ah, but mind you don't erase the firmware ;-) 73 -- David G4DMP Leeds, England, UK -- ___ Elecraft mailing list Post to: Elecraft@mailman.qth.net You must be a subscriber to post to the list. Subscriber Info (Addr. Change, sub, unsub etc.): http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/subscribers.htm Elecraft web page: http://www.elecraft.com
RE: [Elecraft] K3 Positions - Warranty
Like I said, I'm not a lawyer. But I can read the English language fairly
well. The first sentence gives the date when the warranty goes into effect:
The date of first consumer purchase (or the date the product is shipped to
the customer). So if I buy the radio and it ships to me on January 1, the
1-year warranty begins on January 1. If I sell it to you on January 5, it
doesn't change anything about the effective date of the warranty.
The fact that the "first consumer purchase" is mentioned has to be read in
context: We're talking about when the warranty takes effect, not who it
covers. Again, the semantics of the English language apply.
The only possible confusion would be over the next paragraph ("What is
covered"). In that paragraph it says the "purchaser" pays the inbound
shipping. That would imply the original purchaser I would think. Again, it's
not saying the radio is only covered while it's owned by the original
purchaser, it's just saying the "purchaser" pays the inbound shipping. The
confusing part is that in the case of Alaska, Hawaii and outside the US and
Canada the return shipping cost is paid by the "owner" -- who could be
different than the "purchaser".
I would interpret this to mean that Elecraft doesn't pay for the inbound
shipping, nor will they pay for outbound shipping outside the continental US
and Canada. The fact that they use "purchaser" and "owner" synonymously
indicates to me that they're not trying to identify the *original* purchaser
but rather they're refering generically to the person who is returning the
radio for repair.
And again, it's not talking about who is covered, it's talking about who
pays the shipping.
So like I said, the warranty is not a contract between Elecraft and the
original purchaser. It's a warranty on the goods sold by Elecraft. It's good
for one year and it applies to all kits and factory-built units. It covers
defective parts and materials, but doesn't cover any shipping except
outbound shipping in the continental US and Canada.
IANAL, YMMV, FWIW, caveat emptor, ad valorem, ad nauseum.
Craig
NZ0R
-Original Message-
From: hank k8dd [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Saturday, December 08, 2007 12:38 PM
To: Craig Rairdin
Cc: elecraft@mailman.qth.net
Subject: Re: [Elecraft] K3 Positions - Warranty
Craig Rairdin wrote:
> The Elecraft warranty isn't specific to the purchaser.
I'm not sure about that .. From the "Repair and Warranty
Information" page:
"Elecraft's 1-Year Limited Warranty*
* This warranty is effective as of the date of first consumer purchase
(or if shipped from factory, date product is shipped to customer). It
covers both our kits and fully assembled products. For kits, before
requesting warranty service, you should fully complete the assembly,
carefully following all instructions in the manual."
First consumer purchase would indicate that the warranty does not go
with the radio.
73HankK8DD
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RE: [Elecraft] K3 - Ham Radio Deluxe available
The program is supported by voluntary donations. I would think if a person was using it and enjoying it, they'd consider making a reasonable donation. Craig NZ0R -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Don Rasmussen Sent: Saturday, December 08, 2007 11:02 AM To: elecraft@mailman.qth.net Subject: [Elecraft] K3 - Ham Radio Deluxe available What's the only thing that can make Ham Radio Deluxe more deluxe? Connect it to a K3! Beyond that, who can complain of the cost? I consider myself as much of a charitable organization than a radio amateur. ;-) "HRD is free for Radio Amateurs, Shortwave Listener (SWLs) and charitable organisations." Cool! ___ Elecraft mailing list Post to: Elecraft@mailman.qth.net You must be a subscriber to post to the list. Subscriber Info (Addr. Change, sub, unsub etc.): http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/subscribers.htm Elecraft web page: http://www.elecraft.com
RE: [Elecraft] K3 Positions - Warranty
The Elecraft warranty isn't specific to the purchaser. It's a one-year warranty from date shipped from the factory. It applies to the radio, not to the radio in the hands of the original owner. I'm not a lawyer but I can't find anything in Song Beverly (CA) or Magnuson-Moss (US) that would indicate that the warranty terminates when the item is sold. In fact, it appears the warranty applies to the merchandise for a particular period of time unless it states that it applies only to the original purchaser. If the original order was placed by a credit card that doubled the warranty and the original purchaser sells the radio, why would he care if the double warranty was lost? If the new purchaser thinks a two-year warranty is important, then he should take that into consideration. The reason why credit card companies give away double warranties is because they never have to pay them (or they do so seldom that it doesn't matter). I wouldn't let that stand in the way of getting a K3 next week instead of next year. Remember you're not really selling your position, you're selling your radio after you get it. Again, Elecraft doesn't need to be involved. Craig -Original Message- From: Thom LaCosta [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Saturday, December 08, 2007 9:23 AM To: Craig Rairdin Cc: elecraft@mailman.qth.net Subject: RE: [Elecraft] K3 Positions On Sat, 8 Dec 2007, Craig Rairdin wrote: > Just pay the owner directly and have them ship the unit to you when it > comes. There's no need for Elecraft to be involved. Ahwhat about warranty issues? Also, if the person with the original order paid via one of the credit cards that doubles the warranty, will that be lost? > > I think it's nuts to just cancel your order when there are people here who > would pay a premium for your position. Put it on eBay. I for one would be > interested to see what it would go for. If I were to sell off my K3, which hasn't shown up yet, I would: A. Ask Elecraft if I sold it to person x, either before or after shipment, would they honor the warranty. B. If they say yes, I would then ask the credit card company if the extended warranty could be transfered. C. If the credit card company says yes...then I would market it as a brand new K3, factory assembled, with two-year warranty. > > On the other hand, the other thing I think is nuts is to sell your position. But no one knows if Elecraft would honor the sale of a position. 73 k3hrn Thom,EIEIO Email, Internet, Electronic Information Officer www.baltimorehon.com/Home of the Baltimore Lexicon www.tlchost.net/hosting/ Web Hosting as low as 3.49/month ___ Elecraft mailing list Post to: Elecraft@mailman.qth.net You must be a subscriber to post to the list. Subscriber Info (Addr. Change, sub, unsub etc.): http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/subscribers.htm Elecraft web page: http://www.elecraft.com
RE: [Elecraft] K3 Positions
Just pay the owner directly and have them ship the unit to you when it comes. There's no need for Elecraft to be involved. I think it's nuts to just cancel your order when there are people here who would pay a premium for your position. Put it on eBay. I for one would be interested to see what it would go for. On the other hand, the other thing I think is nuts is to sell your position. These radios are shipping, albeit slowly, and the rate at which they're shipping is ramping up. The same argument applies to why it would be silly to pay a premium to get one "early". They're going to be shipping at a pretty fast pace a month from now. The next thing you know they're going to be caught up and you'll be able to get one within a few days of placing an order. But if you want one now and can get one from someone who ordered before Dayton, you're going to have it pretty darned quick. Even the Dayton orders should be shipping pretty soon. Nobody's mentioned it, but non-K3 orders seem to be moving through Elecraft at a normal pace. I've ordered some K3 add-ons and they shipped the next day just as one would expect. Craig NZ0R K3/100 #25 -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Ed Lambert Sent: Saturday, December 08, 2007 8:49 AM To: elecraft@mailman.qth.net Subject: [Elecraft] K3 Positions I note that several potential K3 owners have cancelled their orders. Does Elecraft have a position on sale of these delivery positions to third parties? I, for one, would be interested. Ed Lambert, KD3Y KX1 1492 K2 1999 ___ Elecraft mailing list Post to: Elecraft@mailman.qth.net You must be a subscriber to post to the list. Subscriber Info (Addr. Change, sub, unsub etc.): http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/subscribers.htm Elecraft web page: http://www.elecraft.com ___ Elecraft mailing list Post to: Elecraft@mailman.qth.net You must be a subscriber to post to the list. Subscriber Info (Addr. Change, sub, unsub etc.): http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/subscribers.htm Elecraft web page: http://www.elecraft.com
RE: [Elecraft] On a more technical note.....
I think the hardest add-on to do after-the-fact is the transverter interface KXV3. It requires removal of the KIO3 and the side and bottom panels. Based on my guess about how the second RX board fits, I think adding the KXV3 might also require removal of the second RX. I don't have the KDVR3 digital voice recorder option so I don't know how hard that is to install. Otherwise I have all the rest of the options. If I understand the second RX correctly, it will require removal of the top and bottom panels and the stiffener. None of that is hard, and none of it makes it worth waiting for the second RX before building the radio. Craig NZ0R K3/100 #25 -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Friday, December 07, 2007 9:25 AM Cc: elecraft Subject: [Elecraft] On a more technical note. Are there any add ons that would be better ordered with a radio at the time of initial construction? I'd hate to have to disassemble the entire radio to install the 2d rx for instance if it is better installed at the start. Are the add on modules more like computer cards where you will put the card in the slot and then activate the feature? Mike/aj9c ___ Elecraft mailing list Post to: Elecraft@mailman.qth.net You must be a subscriber to post to the list. Subscriber Info (Addr. Change, sub, unsub etc.): http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/subscribers.htm Elecraft web page: http://www.elecraft.com ___ Elecraft mailing list Post to: Elecraft@mailman.qth.net You must be a subscriber to post to the list. Subscriber Info (Addr. Change, sub, unsub etc.): http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/subscribers.htm Elecraft web page: http://www.elecraft.com
RE: [Elecraft] K3 - Can't ship them out the door?
Dude! You should've sold your position in queue. You could've not only got your deposit back but probably a little extra. As it is you just moved everyone up in line. :-) I'd thank you but I already have mine. Craig NZ0R K3/100 #25 -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Edward R. Breneiser Sent: Friday, December 07, 2007 1:41 PM To: elecraft@mailman.qth.net Subject: [Elecraft] K3 - Can't ship them out the door? Hello all, I grew tired of waiting for a K3. Called Elecraft today and they said my August order would not be shipped out until "after January sometime." Never heard of ordering a radio and having to wait around six months for it - maybe longer! I cancelled my order and asked for my deposit back. To bad Elecraft can't ship their premier product out the door in a timely manner. And yes I've been a big fan after building a K2, K1 and KX1. So now I'll Xmas shop for a new rig! It won't be a K3 - to bad. 72, Ed, WA3WSJ ___ Elecraft mailing list Post to: Elecraft@mailman.qth.net You must be a subscriber to post to the list. Subscriber Info (Addr. Change, sub, unsub etc.): http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/subscribers.htm Elecraft web page: http://www.elecraft.com ___ Elecraft mailing list Post to: Elecraft@mailman.qth.net You must be a subscriber to post to the list. Subscriber Info (Addr. Change, sub, unsub etc.): http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/subscribers.htm Elecraft web page: http://www.elecraft.com
RE: [Elecraft] K3 Display LCD - Cover?
Mine was there and very obvious. I removed it when I took the FP board out of the bag. Craig NZ0R K3/100 #25 -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Ron D'Eau Claire Sent: Saturday, December 01, 2007 5:01 PM To: 'Sanger, Joseph'; 'Gary Bartlett VE1RGB'; elecraft@mailman.qth.net Subject: RE: [Elecraft] K3 Display LCD - Cover? Like most LCD's there is a plastic cover film added by the mfgr, but they are removed in Aptos. Looks like a note in the procedure to that effect might be in order . Ron AC7AC ___ Elecraft mailing list Post to: Elecraft@mailman.qth.net You must be a subscriber to post to the list. Subscriber Info (Addr. Change, sub, unsub etc.): http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/subscribers.htm Elecraft web page: http://www.elecraft.com
RE: [Elecraft] LOW RESALE VALUE OF LOW SERIAL NUMBERS - thread finally loops back
> But it's academic, when my low number k3 lives longer than I do, my estate > will have little knowledge of it's value...and will think more of the time > I enjoyed itrather than how many bucks they can get from it. And there you have it. The thread has finally looped back to the funny point I was making when I originally brought this up. :-) I wasn't complaining about the low resale value of my low s/n K3. I was answering a question about why I LIKED having a low s/n K3 and felt I needed some negatives to throw in there. So I made the same joke Thom just did; that my low s/n K3 will eventually have less resale value than a more recent K3, but it won't matter as I'll be dead -- implying, of course, that I don't intend to ever sell the radio, so even my contrived "negative" is not a negative at all. Ah, these things are always so much funnier after they've been taken off in another direction and you get a chance to explain the joke line by line. :-) A priest, a rabbi, and a K3 owner walk into a bar Craig NZ0R K3/100 #25 ___ Elecraft mailing list Post to: Elecraft@mailman.qth.net You must be a subscriber to post to the list. Subscriber Info (Addr. Change, sub, unsub etc.): http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/subscribers.htm Elecraft web page: http://www.elecraft.com
RE: [Elecraft] K3 Calibration Problem
> The real problem is that after setting the power to "exactly > 5.0 watts" and holidng TUNE, the power reading on 160 meters only > goes to 1.2 watts; when I tap TUNE to exit, VFO B says: ERR TXG. > Similar problems on other banads, to wit: 1.8 Watts on 80m, 1.4 > Watts on 40m, 1.9 Watts on 20m, etc. Make sure you've selected a filter that is at least 1 khz wide for CW transmit. Otherwise you'll get the ERR TXG message. Craig NZ0R K3/100 #25 ___ Elecraft mailing list Post to: Elecraft@mailman.qth.net You must be a subscriber to post to the list. Subscriber Info (Addr. Change, sub, unsub etc.): http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/subscribers.htm Elecraft web page: http://www.elecraft.com
RE: [Elecraft] LOW RESALE VALUE OF LOW SERIAL NUMBERS
>>There will come a time when my K3 will be hard to sell because it has a low >>serial number. >Nonsense. Upgradable radios are equal in functionality regardless of >serial number. You know that, and I know that, but will you be around to buy my K3? Craig NZ0R ___ Elecraft mailing list Post to: Elecraft@mailman.qth.net You must be a subscriber to post to the list. Subscriber Info (Addr. Change, sub, unsub etc.): http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/subscribers.htm Elecraft web page: http://www.elecraft.com
RE: [Elecraft] K3 Deposit Clarification - just curious
> Just curious - other than placing an order early to get earlier > delivery, from whence cometh the obsession with a low S/N? The guy > who flies the S/N 0001 aircraft is called a "Test Pilot" and > generally makes more money than a vanilla "Pilot," for good reasons. As a pilot, I'd be happy to fly S/N 0001 of just about any general aviation airplane. At Oshkosh this year, Cessna introduced a entry-level 2-seat airplane that's not going to ship for about two years. They took something like 720 $5000 deposits in the first two weeks. Go figure. I placed my K3 order within 15 minutes of the posting of the announcement to the reflector because I have completely enjoyed my experience with the KX1, K1 and K2 and wanted to get my hands on a K3 ASAP. In addition to having it in time for CW SS, it was pretty cool to see one of the manual errata sheets look like it was copied from my email comments after building the kit. There's a certain pleasure that comes from plowing the ground and making it easier for the next bunch of pioneers to move in. It's like being on the development team but after all the really hard work is done. :-) There will come a time when my K3 will be hard to sell because it has a low serial number. Fortunately, I'll be dead then and I won't care. My kids already know they're pretty much screwed. They'll inherit a bunch of geezer gear (ham radio equipment) and of course the Sunbeam toaster museum (http://www.automaticbeyondbelief.org). Serves 'em right for making fun of my hobbies. :-) Craig NZ0R K3/100 #25 ___ Elecraft mailing list Post to: Elecraft@mailman.qth.net You must be a subscriber to post to the list. Subscriber Info (Addr. Change, sub, unsub etc.): http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/subscribers.htm Elecraft web page: http://www.elecraft.com
RE: [Elecraft] K3: Firmware Utility Errors
> 'Scuse me, but didn't Elecraft set up a special reflector > for K3 users to discuss their problems directly with > support. Nope. There's a separate K3 support email address which seems to light up every K3 engineer on the planet, which is pretty cool. But there's no separate reflector. There are a hundred or so K3 owners so chances are someone out there can answer a simple K3 question to the benefit of everyone on the reflector. Craig NZ0R K3/100 #25 ___ Elecraft mailing list Post to: Elecraft@mailman.qth.net You must be a subscriber to post to the list. Subscriber Info (Addr. Change, sub, unsub etc.): http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/subscribers.htm Elecraft web page: http://www.elecraft.com
RE: [Elecraft] K3 owners
> For example, is the tuning knob weighted? Does it spin well? Yes and yes. > Can you adjust the drag on the knob? You can do this by adjusting its position on the shaft and the degree to which it comes in contact with the felt washer underneath it. > How is the readability on the display? FB > Can you adjust the brightness on the display? Yes. > Can you change the display backlight color? No. > Overall, how satisfied are you with the ergonomics? What would you > like to change? I'd like separate mode buttons instead of one button that rotates through modes. I'd like it to pick a mode based on frequency. If it can do that, I haven't figured it out yet. There's no place to engrave my callsign on the clear plastic LCD cover like there is on the K1 and K2. :-( When going from 100+ watts down to 5 watts you have to turn the power knob several revolutions. It would be nice if there was a "QRP" button. That's about it. I'm not a heavy-duty user so my needs are simple. But that's what I've found so far. Overall I really like it. Craig NZ0R K3/100 #25 ___ Elecraft mailing list Post to: Elecraft@mailman.qth.net You must be a subscriber to post to the list. Subscriber Info (Addr. Change, sub, unsub etc.): http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/subscribers.htm Elecraft web page: http://www.elecraft.com
RE: [Elecraft] K3 Shipping Status Update 11/26/07
Just to clarify I was quoting someone else who used the phrase "shoddy treatment". The message below makes it appear that I said that. Like John, I was trying to clarify what Elecraft promised in RESPONSE to the previous post that speculated about possible "shoddy treatment". Craig NZ0R -Original Message- From: John A. McCabe [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Tuesday, November 27, 2007 11:56 AM To: Craig Rairdin Cc: elecraft@mailman.qth.net Subject: Re: [Elecraft] K3 Shipping Status Update 11/26/07 Craig Rairdin wrote: >> As far as shipping units that had no deposit/full payment >> before those that had been partially/fully paidI think >> if that has happened in the first batch, it's really shoddy >> treatment for those who gave Elecraft financial aid with >> their deposits or prepayment There is a note on Elecraft's shipping status page regarding deposits that states that K3 orders received with a deposit before approximately May 14th (which I assume is the 1st batch) will ship before other orders received during that period. Orders after May 14th will ship in the order received. 73, John KD8K ___ Elecraft mailing list Post to: Elecraft@mailman.qth.net You must be a subscriber to post to the list. Subscriber Info (Addr. Change, sub, unsub etc.): http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/subscribers.htm Elecraft web page: http://www.elecraft.com
RE: [Elecraft] K3 Shipping Status Update 11/26/07
> As far as shipping units that had no deposit/full payment > before those that had been partially/fully paidI think > if that has happened in the first batch, it's really shoddy > treatment for those who gave Elecraft financial aid with > their deposits or prepayments. Let's clarify what those of us who made a deposit were promised: We were told if we made a deposit we would be assured of being in the FIRST 200 SERIAL NUMBERS (until those were sold, of course). If only 100 deposits were made, then Elecraft could ship in order-date order and still be keeping its promise. If 200 deposits were made and the production run was increased to 300, Elecraft could ship in order-date order but reserve serial numbers below 220 for deposit-makers and still be keeping its promise. If more deposits were made than there were units in the first production run, and if serial numbers < 220 are not being reserved for the first 200 deposit-makers, then Elecraft isn't keeping its promise to those who made deposits. Consider the possibility that there were 199 deposits made in the first 1000 orders, then the 200th deposit was made. If Elecraft sends serial number 220 to the 1001st customer, they would be fulfilling the promise to deposit-makers even if the other 1000 radios get shipped first. Since we don't know the number of deposits made or the size of the first (or any) product run, we can't say for sure whether or not this promise is being kept. We can only give them the benefit of the doubt. Note that if you order today and make a deposit, there's no benefit other than the good feeling that comes from helping Elecraft improve its cash flow during a time when cash flow is dependant on shipping radios that are apparently hard to ship in quantity. Craig NZ0R K3/100 #25 ___ Elecraft mailing list Post to: Elecraft@mailman.qth.net You must be a subscriber to post to the list. Subscriber Info (Addr. Change, sub, unsub etc.): http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/subscribers.htm Elecraft web page: http://www.elecraft.com
FW: [Elecraft] [K3] Can you turn a filter off
> occurred to me (they do sometimes), in order to do A/B comparisons > once I have my K3, can you leave a filter in place, but turn it > 'off' via config menu, so the K3 effectively ignores it? Yes. The last time I tried this I had to then exit the menu and readjust the width to get it to actually shut off. So if I'm sitting at 400 hz with my 400 hz filter enabled, then go to CONFIG and disable the 400 hz filter, I would have to exit CONFIG, turn the width up or down one click, then back to 400 hz. It's my understanding that a firmware change either has been made or will be made that will allow you to manipulate this in real time. I haven't downloaded the latest firmware so I'm not sure. And I'm not sure I'm necessarily understanding the change correctly so I could be wrong. Craig K3/100 #25 ___ Elecraft mailing list Post to: Elecraft@mailman.qth.net You must be a subscriber to post to the list. Subscriber Info (Addr. Change, sub, unsub etc.): http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/subscribers.htm Elecraft web page: http://www.elecraft.com
RE: [Elecraft] OT: US call areas
It doesn't matter where you are any more. Some of us don't like it either. If you are assigned a call by the FCC then you'll get one that's in your correct call area. But if you move or if you apply for a vanity call, it can be outside your area. I had an opportunity to get a call containing my initials but I couldn't bring myself to be a "9" after being a "0" for 35 years. :-) Craig NZ0R -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Julian G4ILO Sent: Monday, November 26, 2007 9:30 AM To: elecraft Subject: [Elecraft] OT: US call areas This is probably common knowledge to most, but do US calls not relate to the geographic area any more? In the contest, I worked call area 6, which my map shows as the west coast, but the station I worked, N6AR, is listed in qrz.com with an address in Florida, which is call area 4. Do call areas have *any* use (e.g. for multipliers in ARRL contest scores)? -- Julian, G4ILO K2 s/n: 392 K3 s/n: ??? G4ILO's Shack: www.g4ilo.com Zerobeat Ham Forums: www.zerobeat.net/smf ___ Elecraft mailing list Post to: Elecraft@mailman.qth.net You must be a subscriber to post to the list. Subscriber Info (Addr. Change, sub, unsub etc.): http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/subscribers.htm Elecraft web page: http://www.elecraft.com ___ Elecraft mailing list Post to: Elecraft@mailman.qth.net You must be a subscriber to post to the list. Subscriber Info (Addr. Change, sub, unsub etc.): http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/subscribers.htm Elecraft web page: http://www.elecraft.com
[Elecraft] Requested pictures: K3 & K2 (plus K1 and KX1)
Second attempt to send this... I waited an hour and didn't see it come through. Sorry if you get two copies: I spent some time shooting a few pictures of my Elecraft gear this afternoon for people who wanted some size comparisions. There are front, side, and rear shots of the K2 and K3 and some "family" pictures with the whole gang. The pictures are here: http://www.craigr.com/coppermine/thumbnails.php?album=71 Click on the little pictures to see bigger ones, then click on the bigger ones to see full-size ones. The full-size images have sufficient resolution to read all the labels. If you click on the "2007" in the navigation line at the top of the page (Home > Ham Radio > 2007) you can also get to the page-by-page K3 construction pictures. Go up to the "Ham Radio" category and down into 2006 for page-by-page KX1 construction photos. Back to 2005 for K2 and KPA100 page-by-page construction photos. Thanks to the interest in Elecraft gear, my "most viewed" images are now K3 photos, including 500 views of the white unopened shipping box sitting on the floor of my office. This makes me feel a little better as there was a while there where my daughter's prom pictures had the highest ranking, which I assume is mostly internet perverts, not family and friends. Hey, I guess maybe that includes some of you guys, too. Well, if so, welcome back and check out the K3 pics this time. :-) Craig NZ0R ___ Elecraft mailing list Post to: Elecraft@mailman.qth.net You must be a subscriber to post to the list. Subscriber Info (Addr. Change, sub, unsub etc.): http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/subscribers.htm Elecraft web page: http://www.elecraft.com
RE: [Elecraft] MicroKeyer, keyboards, digital modes (was: K3 and K2 Side by Side Photo?)
I've never been able to figure out how to send or receive RTTY or PSK with or without the MicroKeyer. My normal contest mode is WriteLog talking to the K2 (or now the K3) through the MicroKeyer with both a keyboard and paddle plugged into the MicroKeyer. I can use the keyboard or paddle for unanticipated manual sending. The keyboard works great for CW. Craig -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Mike Sent: Sunday, November 25, 2007 12:15 PM To: elecraft@mailman.qth.net Subject: [Elecraft] K3 and K2 Side by Side Photo? Thanks for the info Craig. My K3 will be here Wednesday and really looking forward to stand alone digital modes. It is my understanding that you just have to send CW from the K3 and it converts it to either RTTY or PSK31 for the modes. Since the Microkeyer will send RTTY or CW with just a keyboard plugged in and it has memories I wonder if you have plugged a PS2 keyboard into the Microkeyer and sent keyboard RTTY,CW and PSK without the need for a soundcard/computer hookup. It sure will make a compact digital station. Mike WA8EBM ___ Elecraft mailing list Post to: Elecraft@mailman.qth.net You must be a subscriber to post to the list. Subscriber Info (Addr. Change, sub, unsub etc.): http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/subscribers.htm Elecraft web page: http://www.elecraft.com ___ Elecraft mailing list Post to: Elecraft@mailman.qth.net You must be a subscriber to post to the list. Subscriber Info (Addr. Change, sub, unsub etc.): http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/subscribers.htm Elecraft web page: http://www.elecraft.com
RE: [Elecraft] K3 and K2 Side by Side Photo?
I have the K2 cables for the MicroKeyer. The only connection to the K3 right now is the key. I want to end up with a complete K2 and K3 setup so I'll either get another MicroKeyer and cables for the K3 or the MicroKeyer II. I haven't examined the feature list to see what the newer model offers. I don't really use many of the features of the MicroKeyer but it works with my contest logging program (WriteLog) and it's easy to set up. I have the Elecraft mic and as far as I know it works ok. I used it in SS and didn't get any negative reports. I'm not much of a SSB op -- SS is about the only time I hook up a mic. Plus my call is great for CW but is really bad for phone (try saying November Zulu Zero Romeo really fast). :-) Craig NZ0R -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Mike Sent: Sunday, November 25, 2007 7:33 AM To: elecraft@mailman.qth.net Subject: [Elecraft] K3 and K2 Side by Side Photo? Nice pics Craig. I see you have the MicroKeyer hooked up. I assume you brewed your own connection cables since the website says they are not available til Dec 1st. How does it work with the radio? Also notice you have a Heil Cable on the K3, wonder what mic you are using and the results. Mike WA8EBM ___ Elecraft mailing list Post to: Elecraft@mailman.qth.net You must be a subscriber to post to the list. Subscriber Info (Addr. Change, sub, unsub etc.): http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/subscribers.htm Elecraft web page: http://www.elecraft.com ___ Elecraft mailing list Post to: Elecraft@mailman.qth.net You must be a subscriber to post to the list. Subscriber Info (Addr. Change, sub, unsub etc.): http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/subscribers.htm Elecraft web page: http://www.elecraft.com
RE: [Elecraft] K3 and K2 Side by Side Photo?
I put a snapshot up on my Web site for you. I didn't take the time to make it look pretty; it is just a quick shot of the two radios. http://www.craigr.com/coppermine/displayimage.php?album=70&pos=69 Craig NZ0R K3/100 #25 K2/100 #4941 -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Saturday, November 24, 2007 5:11 PM To: elecraft@mailman.qth.net Subject: [Elecraft] K3 and K2 Side by Side Photo? Has anyone with both a K3 and K2 taken any side by side photos? Are they posted anywhere? If not, then a frontal, top, rear and side view would be interesting. And, if you want to have the UPS delivery person hold them, that's OK. :-) 73, Henry - K4TMC (K3 #?? on mule train heading to NC) Email and AIM finally together. You've gotta check out free AOL Mail! - http://mail.aol.com ___ Elecraft mailing list Post to: Elecraft@mailman.qth.net You must be a subscriber to post to the list. Subscriber Info (Addr. Change, sub, unsub etc.): http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/subscribers.htm Elecraft web page: http://www.elecraft.com ___ Elecraft mailing list Post to: Elecraft@mailman.qth.net You must be a subscriber to post to the list. Subscriber Info (Addr. Change, sub, unsub etc.): http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/subscribers.htm Elecraft web page: http://www.elecraft.com
RE: [Elecraft] KRX3 2nd receiver
I assume there will be standoffs to install, so the top and bottom covers will have to be removed. Based on where the KRX3 sits, you might have to remove the stiffener that runs across the top. Not sure about that. The benefit of waiting would be that it could be installed before the top/bottom covers are put on in the first place. On the other hand, there's not much work required to remove the covers. I personally wouldn't wait. I built my K3 when I received it, and have a KRX3 on order. Craig NZ0R K3/100 #25 -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Manuel Maseda Sent: Saturday, November 24, 2007 9:39 AM To: elecraft@mailman.qth.net Subject: [Elecraft] KRX3 2nd receiver Does anyone know how difficult it will be to install the 2nd receiver (KRX3) after the K3 has been initially assembled? I'm just wondering if I should wait to build my K3 (scheduled to arriver in December) until after the KRX3 arrives in January. Manuel W4SSB ___ Elecraft mailing list Post to: Elecraft@mailman.qth.net You must be a subscriber to post to the list. Subscriber Info (Addr. Change, sub, unsub etc.): http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/subscribers.htm Elecraft web page: http://www.elecraft.com ___ Elecraft mailing list Post to: Elecraft@mailman.qth.net You must be a subscriber to post to the list. Subscriber Info (Addr. Change, sub, unsub etc.): http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/subscribers.htm Elecraft web page: http://www.elecraft.com
RE: [Elecraft] K3 - Possible Show Stoppers
What fan noise? During long runs with lots of transmitting during SS I had to stick my hand behind the radio to see if the fans were on. They were, and the top of the radio stayed cool. You couldn't hear them at all. I can't answer your question about key-up spikes, but my dipole ends 25' directly above my head and I haven't noticed any effects of RF in the transmitted audio. I'm only running 100W so that may not mean anything. Craig NZ0R K3/100 #25 -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Joe Sent: Friday, November 23, 2007 3:37 PM To: elecraft@mailman.qth.net Subject: [Elecraft] K3 - Possible Show Stoppers I am a SSB rag-chew operator and very interested in the K3. Have had many of the rigs on the market in the last few years and like the features of the K3. I have 3 questions that may be show stoppers for me. 1. Fan noise: How loud are the fans, what rig do they compare to. In a long SSB transmission which of the 4 speeds will be engaged? The fan noise in some rigs is not acceptable to me, like the Icom 706 or Yaesu Mark-V 200 watt version. A lot of rigs are ok, like the IC-756 PRO, TS-870, IC-775 or Mark-V Field. 2. RF in Transmitted Audio: My shack is not in an ideal location, it is on a second floor with my beam antenna over my head, so sometimes I have issues with RF getting into the transmitted audio. Some radios work fine (with some work) like Icom & Yaesu, and some have problems like Ten-Tec. With this said, has anyone tried the K3 in a high RF environment? 3. SSB Transmit Key-up Spikes: Some solid-state amps do not like key- up spikes. An example, I have owned two Yaesu FT-920s and my solid- state amp would not tolerate the key-up spikes in them. Thanks for your answers, Joe N9VX ___ No banners. No pop-ups. No kidding. Make My Way your home on the Web - http://www.myway.com ___ Elecraft mailing list Post to: Elecraft@mailman.qth.net You must be a subscriber to post to the list. Subscriber Info (Addr. Change, sub, unsub etc.): http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/subscribers.htm Elecraft web page: http://www.elecraft.com ___ Elecraft mailing list Post to: Elecraft@mailman.qth.net You must be a subscriber to post to the list. Subscriber Info (Addr. Change, sub, unsub etc.): http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/subscribers.htm Elecraft web page: http://www.elecraft.com
RE: [Elecraft] Some Good News and Some Bad News
FWIW my serial number was written in pencil in the upper right corner of my invoice that came with the K3. That might be the easiest to find. I think the serial number envelope was in the "miscellaneous parts" bag. It was near the bottom of the bigger box of subassemblies, not the small box of chassis parts. Craig NZ0R K3/100 #25 -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of David Yarnes Sent: Wednesday, November 21, 2007 11:20 PM To: elecraft@mailman.qth.net Cc: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: [Elecraft] Some Good News and Some Bad News I'm in Ventura, CA tending a sick brother in the hospital. Looks like I'll miss Thanksgiving at home. But I talked to the XYL yesterday, and a package arrived at home. Guess what! My K3 arrived! What's strange is that I did get a preliminary message about my invoice, but no message saying it had been shipped. But I've been having horrible problems at this motel with my email. I could receive, but not send emails. I won't even describe how I'm sending this--I don't understand exactly why it seems to work, but it apparently does. Anyway, I have no idea what my serial number is, as my XYL couldn't find anything that seemed to resemble it in the box. We were both afraid to have her dig through it very much and maybe lose a part or something. Another "good" thing--she saw the enclosed invoice and assumed I only spent around $1400 for the radio! That was the balance due! I'm not sure I will tell her the real number! Oh, and one more good thing--yesterday just happened to be my birthday! Now how did Elecraft know to have that K3 hit my front porch on that day??? Wayne and Eric are very clever, but I didn't realize they were that clever! Dave W7AQK ___ Elecraft mailing list Post to: Elecraft@mailman.qth.net You must be a subscriber to post to the list. Subscriber Info (Addr. Change, sub, unsub etc.): http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/subscribers.htm Elecraft web page: http://www.elecraft.com ___ Elecraft mailing list Post to: Elecraft@mailman.qth.net You must be a subscriber to post to the list. Subscriber Info (Addr. Change, sub, unsub etc.): http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/subscribers.htm Elecraft web page: http://www.elecraft.com
RE: [Elecraft] soldering suggestions?
I think I used a 1.6 mm tip when building my kits. Your .05" falls between my 1.2mm and 1.6mm tips so I'm not sure which they might call .05". You might try turning up the heat a bit, say to 750F. It shouldn't take 30 seconds to get solder to flow. My normal technique is to wipe the tip on the sponge to clean it, then apply a little solder to the tip. The solder on the tip helps heat to flow to the pad and the part faster than a dry tip. Touch the tip to the pad and the part so that the edge of the chisel tip is in contact with the pad (the more surface area is in contact with the pad, the better and faster the heat transfer. The tip should also contact the part. Apply a little pressure so you get good contact with the board and the lead. Again, good contact equals good heat transfer. I touch the solder to either the opposite side of the lead from the tip, or to the pad. If I don't immediately get solder flow, I touch the solder to the tip to wet it and improve the heat transfer, then I can almost always get solder to flow by touching either the pad or the part. I've never noticed the flying-solder problem that you've seen. I've never worn gloves and I haven't been burned even after building all four of the Elecraft radios and several of the mini-kits. (I guess I shouldn't count the K3 when talking about not getting burned.) :-) So I think the secret is to use a little more heat, prime the tip with solder, make sure you're laying the edge of the tip flat against the board, use a little pressure, and make sure you have contact with the lead. Touch the tip if necessary to get the solder flowing. When it works right you should clearly see solder flowing on the lead and on the pad, not just one or the other. Hope this helps. There are others here who are professionals who might give better advice. I just know that what I'm doing is working. Craig NZ0R K3/100 #25 K2/100 #4941 K1 #1966 KX1 #1499 -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of rellis Sent: Tuesday, November 20, 2007 3:07 AM To: Elecraft@mailman.qth.net Subject: [Elecraft] soldering suggestions? Hi, Having purchased a K1 kit, but never having soldered before, I've been working up to it by working on some other kits, such as an electronic die, a signal generator, and an active null modem. I'm using a hakko 936 and I have a .05" chisel tip. The solder that I'm using is kester SN60PB40 #66/44 .025. (It is my intention to use this solder and the .05" tip when working on the K1.) There are some peculiarities with soldering that I'm uncertain about. First is the time required to hold the soldering iron tip to the component and pc board. When working on the active null modem (from fox delta), the pc board pad is minute (compared to the velleman kits) and was appropriately size for the .05" tip. (They are comparable to the pads on the K1 pc board.) However, only rarely would the solder flow in the 3 seconds that is suggested in the K1 manual to avoid damage to components. (I'm applying the recommendations in the K1 manual to these other kits.) The only occasions that the solder flowed within 3 seconds was when I'd just finished soldering a nearby location, for example when working on a 16 pin socket. The solder tip was clean and silvery; the temperature was set to 700 degrees (though I did not verify that with a separate soldering tip temperature guage). Any thoughts on what I might be doing wrong? (The velleman kits that I assembled clearly needed a bigger tip than I was using... 30 seconds was needed to solder some connections. I was considering them to be mostly practise, as they were my first attempts at soldering. Surprisingly, the electronic die did work. The signal generator doesn't smoke, but there are no blinking lights to tell me whether it is working correctly. ) I also sometimes noticed that, when soldering, a tiny piece of solder would sometimes fly off the tip of the solder wire and would impact the soldering iron about halfway up the metal shaft (two inches above the solder tip). Is this indicative of a static problem? This occurred two or three times. This made me want to wear gloves in addition to the eye protectors that I had on. thanks, robert ___ Elecraft mailing list Post to: Elecraft@mailman.qth.net You must be a subscriber to post to the list. Subscriber Info (Addr. Change, sub, unsub etc.): http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/subscribers.htm Elecraft web page: http://www.elecraft.com ___ Elecraft mailing list Post to: Elecraft@mailman.qth.net You must be a subscriber to post to the list. Subscriber Info (Addr. Change, sub, unsub etc.): http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/subscribers.htm Elecraft web page: http://www.elecraft.com
RE: [Elecraft] KSB2 sidetone?
> I cannot relate 'sidetone in the headset' with SSB operation. In CW, > there is a sidetone presented to the headphones or speaker which > follows the keying, but there is nothing of that sort for SSB. > The K3 does provide a means of monitoring the transmitted audio (but > that is not a sidetone) FWIW I'm a pilot and the transceivers we use in airplanes to communicate with the ground all have audio sidetone that feeds back into the headset. Your telephone has sidetone that feeds your voice back to the earpiece. In both cases this feature is called "sidetone". See http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sidetone and http://www8.garmin.com/manuals/SL30Nav_Comm_UserGuide.pdf (page 32). Craig NZ0R ___ Elecraft mailing list Post to: Elecraft@mailman.qth.net You must be a subscriber to post to the list. Subscriber Info (Addr. Change, sub, unsub etc.): http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/subscribers.htm Elecraft web page: http://www.elecraft.com
RE: [Elecraft] Important K3 News
>>Will the K3's shipping out in the future have the >>latest firmware? Mine was pretty fresh. The board that contained the programmable ROM was not sealed in its anti-static bag. It looked to me like they wanted to make sure it had the latest so they kept it unsealed. On the other hand, by the time I got it there was an update available. It's really easy to do the updates. The software that talks to the K3 automatically retrieves the latest software from Elecraft then just takes over the radio and downloads the update to it. It is effortless. Craig NZ0R K3 #25 ___ Elecraft mailing list Post to: Elecraft@mailman.qth.net You must be a subscriber to post to the list. Subscriber Info (Addr. Change, sub, unsub etc.): http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/subscribers.htm Elecraft web page: http://www.elecraft.com
RE: [Elecraft] Filter Placement in K3
Yes, you can skip slots. I operated for a while with FL1 and FL5 the only slots occupied. I've since filed FL3 and FL4. FL2 is empty. Craig NZ0R K3 #25 -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Roy Morris Sent: Saturday, November 17, 2007 11:39 AM To: elecraft@mailman.qth.net Subject: [Elecraft] Filter Placement in K3 As long as the roofing filters are placed in bandwidth order, can filter slots be bypassed in anticipation of placing filters in the slots later? For example: Slot #1 Not used - reserved for FM filter Slot #2 6Khz Slot #3 2.7 Khz Slot #4 Not used - reserved for future filter Slot #5 .5Khz Roy Morris W4WFB ___ Elecraft mailing list Post to: Elecraft@mailman.qth.net You must be a subscriber to post to the list. Subscriber Info (Addr. Change, sub, unsub etc.): http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/subscribers.htm Elecraft web page: http://www.elecraft.com ___ Elecraft mailing list Post to: Elecraft@mailman.qth.net You must be a subscriber to post to the list. Subscriber Info (Addr. Change, sub, unsub etc.): http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/subscribers.htm Elecraft web page: http://www.elecraft.com
RE: [Elecraft] Who will be running a K3 in SS today/tomorrow?
NZ0R #25 Craig -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Saturday, November 17, 2007 9:28 AM To: Elecraft@mailman.qth.net Subject: [Elecraft] Who will be running a K3 in SS today/tomorrow? Wonder which call letters I should be keeping an ear out for in Sweepstakes... If your K3 will be active, please let us know... Thanks! John K7FD ___ Elecraft mailing list Post to: Elecraft@mailman.qth.net You must be a subscriber to post to the list. Subscriber Info (Addr. Change, sub, unsub etc.): http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/subscribers.htm Elecraft web page: http://www.elecraft.com ___ Elecraft mailing list Post to: Elecraft@mailman.qth.net You must be a subscriber to post to the list. Subscriber Info (Addr. Change, sub, unsub etc.): http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/subscribers.htm Elecraft web page: http://www.elecraft.com
RE: [Elecraft] Filter Selection
Yeah you can do that. There's a software update coming (or maybe it's already out -- I haven't checked recently) that will make it easier. What you would do is disable the 500hz filter and narrow the DSP to 500 hz, then go to the CONFIG menu and enable the 500 hz filter. I think (but I'm not sure) that the new software will immediately drop it in. The software I have requires that you twiddle the WIDTH knob up or down a notch to make it recognize the 500 hz filter is available. My guess is it won't sound much different on a normal night on 40 m, but it might be different in more crowded band conditions. Craig NZ0R -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Don Rasmussen Sent: Friday, November 16, 2007 8:55 PM To: Elecraft List Subject: [Elecraft] Filter Selection Here is a question for anyone having a K3. You are listening to a CW note on 40 meters at night with moderate static, maybe S7 is the resting point. Copying a signal using the standard roofing filter and the DSP narrowed down to 500hz. Now you open up the passband on the DSP to 2.7 khz and activate a 500hz crystal filter. First - can you do that? Second - if you can, how much different does it sound? I'd expect more pleasant listening experience in the former scenario... [Elecraft] Filter Selection K4IA at aol.com K4IA at aol.com Fri Nov 16 21:32:28 EST 2007 Wondering if a consensus was developing about the choice of roofing filters. Seems like there a too many to choose from. Lacking detailed plots for each one, I can't believe there is that much difference between say a 500hz 5 pole and a 400hz 8 pole or a 200 hz 5 pole vs a 250 hz 8 pole. Sure the 5 poles will have wider skirts but will you be able to hear the difference? ___ Elecraft mailing list Post to: Elecraft@mailman.qth.net You must be a subscriber to post to the list. Subscriber Info (Addr. Change, sub, unsub etc.): http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/subscribers.htm Elecraft web page: http://www.elecraft.com ___ Elecraft mailing list Post to: Elecraft@mailman.qth.net You must be a subscriber to post to the list. Subscriber Info (Addr. Change, sub, unsub etc.): http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/subscribers.htm Elecraft web page: http://www.elecraft.com
RE: [Elecraft] K3 options
Five filter slots per receiver. The 2.7 KHz 5-pole comes standard with the radio. No conflicting options. Craig NZ0R K3 #25 -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Ken Bessler Sent: Friday, November 16, 2007 9:10 AM To: elecraft@mailman.qth.net Subject: [Elecraft] K3 options Can anyone tell me which options for the K3 preclude other options? For example, on the K2 you cannot have the KPA100 option unless you do not have the internal battery installed. Also, how many filters can the K3 take? 73's de Ken KG0WX - Kadiddlehopper #11808, Flying Pigs #-1055, Grid EM17ip _ Climb to the top of the charts! Play Star Shuffle: the word scramble challenge with star power. http://club.live.com/star_shuffle.aspx?icid=starshuffle_wlmailtextlink_oct__ _ Elecraft mailing list Post to: Elecraft@mailman.qth.net You must be a subscriber to post to the list. Subscriber Info (Addr. Change, sub, unsub etc.): http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/subscribers.htm Elecraft web page: http://www.elecraft.com ___ Elecraft mailing list Post to: Elecraft@mailman.qth.net You must be a subscriber to post to the list. Subscriber Info (Addr. Change, sub, unsub etc.): http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/subscribers.htm Elecraft web page: http://www.elecraft.com
RE: [Elecraft] KAT100 with Ladder Line
For Field Day this year I had my K2 hooked up to a 130' dipole fed by ladder line. We ran that to a 4:1 balun and a few feet of coax to the KAT100. It tuned it up nicely on all bands. We had no trouble working anyone we called. Craig NZ0R -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Curt Milton Sent: Thursday, November 15, 2007 11:50 AM To: Elecraft@mailman.qth.net Subject: [Elecraft] KAT100 with Ladder Line I admit I enjoyed using a KAT100 at FD, but I wonder how much value it would be at my station. For feeding my wire antenna with balanced line, I suspect I need an external balun, that has to go someplace, and better to be attached to one of the tuner inputs. Currently I use a manual MFJ tuner (with its internal 4:1 balun) to operate my wire antenna on 30, 40, 80 and 160m. I can imagine the autotuner being useful here, but I can't envision the balun to use and how to attach it to the KAT100. My other antennas are 2 multiband verticals (80/40 and 20/17/15/12/10), and these are nicely matched where I operate - so not much utility for the KAT100 here. So will a KAT100 make my QSY more seamless, and what balun to use and how to integrate it ? 73, curt Never miss a thing. Make Yahoo your home page. http://www.yahoo.com/r/hs ___ Elecraft mailing list Post to: Elecraft@mailman.qth.net You must be a subscriber to post to the list. Subscriber Info (Addr. Change, sub, unsub etc.): http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/subscribers.htm Elecraft web page: http://www.elecraft.com ___ Elecraft mailing list Post to: Elecraft@mailman.qth.net You must be a subscriber to post to the list. Subscriber Info (Addr. Change, sub, unsub etc.): http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/subscribers.htm Elecraft web page: http://www.elecraft.com
RE: [Elecraft] Re: K3 selectivity display?
> Also, you only have to take off half the bottom cover to change or move a > filter. It's the easy half IMHO. ... And of course the top cover. I was just pointing out you don't have to take off the entire bottom cover. Craig NZ0R K3 #25 ___ Elecraft mailing list Post to: Elecraft@mailman.qth.net You must be a subscriber to post to the list. Subscriber Info (Addr. Change, sub, unsub etc.): http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/subscribers.htm Elecraft web page: http://www.elecraft.com
RE: [Elecraft] Re: K3 selectivity display?
On Nov 14, 2007, at 2:05 PM, Craig D. Smith wrote: > Why should I need to remember what roofing > filter I installed in each slot? Besides, the filters might be > swapped from > time to time. My personal preference would be to see the nominal > roofing > filter bandwidth displayed rather than the FL number. When you tap XFIL to rotate through the filters the discrete FLn indicator lights up for that filter and also the VFO B display says "FL3 0.40", "FL4 0.25", etc. So you don't really have to remember. Also my tendency is to use the WIDTH control to just dial it down and not really think about what the absolute width is. If I can make out the signal better, I'm happy. But either way (XFIL or WIDTH) the width is displayed. You don't have to remember what's in what slot. Also, you only have to take off half the bottom cover to change or move a filter. It's the easy half IMHO. FYI: I've been playing with both the 200 Hz 5-pole and 250 Hz 8-pole filters and so far in my purely subjective tests I can't tell the difference between them. What I think this means is that if you're not a numbers purist you can get by with the cheaper 5-pole filter and probably never know the difference. If performance means everything to you then by all means spend more for the 250 Hz 8-pole filter and you'll be happy, too. Craig NZ0R K3 #25 ___ Elecraft mailing list Post to: Elecraft@mailman.qth.net You must be a subscriber to post to the list. Subscriber Info (Addr. Change, sub, unsub etc.): http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/subscribers.htm Elecraft web page: http://www.elecraft.com
RE: [Elecraft] K3 wish list
> My small station layout means that a remote ATU is much > more effective than an inboard one. Therefor the tuning part of the > KAT3 as an external unit (with say a 25 to 35 ft power and control > cable) AND the antenna switching functions transferred to the KANT3 > in the main rig would be very attractive, especially to accommodate > a beam for 6m. Pardon my ignorance but I don't understand how your station layout would be improved with an external ATU. The KAT3 occupies the same space inside the K3 as the KANT3. An external tuner would result in more, not less, space being taken outside the radio (albeit remotely mounted), plus you'd have another cable to route. There may be something about having a 6m beam that works better with a remote ATU and that's fine -- I just don't understand how this is all driven by limited desk space. The same amount of desk space is taken up with the ATU inside the K3 as outside. Craig NZ0R K3/100 #25 ___ Elecraft mailing list Post to: Elecraft@mailman.qth.net You must be a subscriber to post to the list. Subscriber Info (Addr. Change, sub, unsub etc.): http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/subscribers.htm Elecraft web page: http://www.elecraft.com
RE: [Elecraft] Winkeyer sounds soo different than K2
> Let me clarify. The CW I am complaining is the K2 sidetone. > The Winkeyer(microKeyerII) does not have a sidetone; it is > fed to the K2 key jack and the K2 is configured to Hand. > The timing is just way off. The dits are really short, but > playing with the parameters has not changed much. I have the microHam microKeyer and haven't changed any parameters and it's all but indistinguishable from the K2. The elements of the characters might be a little shorter or the timing may be slightly different but I just don't notice it at all. I have my logging program (WriteLog) talk to the microKeyer as a WinKey device. I think WriteLog sends ASCII to the microKeyer, so I don't think there's any timing issues caused by WriteLog. I also have a PS/2 keyboard plugged into the microKeyer and it sounds the same as sending from WriteLog. Are you using a paddle or driving it from software? If the latter, make sure the software isn't generating its own key presses but instead is configured to use WinKey. Craig NZ0R ___ Elecraft mailing list Post to: Elecraft@mailman.qth.net You must be a subscriber to post to the list. Subscriber Info (Addr. Change, sub, unsub etc.): http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/subscribers.htm Elecraft web page: http://www.elecraft.com
RE: [Elecraft] Small power supply for a K1
The K1 doesn't require much. I have a little 3A 13.8V power supply from Radio Shack that has both terminals and a cigarette lighter jack that I can use for the K1 and a variety of other devices that I normally run in the car. I made my K1 power cable with a cigarette lighter plug so I can power it from the car or the power supply. Craig -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Norm Klieman Sent: Monday, November 12, 2007 11:20 AM To: elecraft@mailman.qth.net Subject: [Elecraft] Small power supply for a K1 Hi -I just bought a used K1 and am looking for a small power supply or wall wart that I can use with it, especially if I travel. Does anyone have an suggestions? Or, if you have something for sale, please contact me at [EMAIL PROTECTED] 73's - Norm K9NK ___ Elecraft mailing list Post to: Elecraft@mailman.qth.net You must be a subscriber to post to the list. Subscriber Info (Addr. Change, sub, unsub etc.): http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/subscribers.htm Elecraft web page: http://www.elecraft.com ___ Elecraft mailing list Post to: Elecraft@mailman.qth.net You must be a subscriber to post to the list. Subscriber Info (Addr. Change, sub, unsub etc.): http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/subscribers.htm Elecraft web page: http://www.elecraft.com
RE: [Elecraft] K3 Assembly Manual......web or full???
The Web version has low-res pictures and that makes it smaller. If it helps any I built my K3 from that version of the assembly manual and the pictures are sufficiently detailed to determine what you're supposed to do. There are two places where the pictures are of a different (older? newer?) version of the RF board (figs 56 and 58), but it's completely obvious what they're trying to show you (the important components were in the same location on my board as in the picture; it was two nearby components that were different). Fig 57 shows the components in the location that matched my board. There are pictures of a couple connectors that need to mate when you're attaching the front panel assembly to the RF board assembly that have plenty of resolution but the connectors themselves were harder to see on my boards than they were in the pictures (Fig 54). And it doesn't matter anyway because that step is difficult no matter what pictures they show you. There are some pictures very early in the process of locations of standoffs that aren't very helpful (figures 7 and 9) but it's because they don't give enough context, not because they aren't of sufficient resolution. If you refer back to the location of the mixer board and noise blanker board in figure 1 it will give you a clue where the standoffs go. Don't forget to check the site for an update after you get your K3. The one in the box (or the one you printed out today) may be older than the one on the Web site. Also don't forget to apply the errata. Craig NZ0R K3/100 #25 -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Saturday, November 10, 2007 10:15 PM To: elecraft@mailman.qth.net Subject: [Elecraft] K3 Assembly Manual..web or full??? Stan wrote: "When trying to download the K3 Assembly Manual with the following description, (8 MB) K3 Assembly Manual (Rev B, 10/28/07), I always get the 3.61 MB web version. Is the 8MB version being overhauled?" No I get the same thing and mentioned it a week or two ago and it hasn't been changed. They may be too busy trying to catch up. Michael N2ZDB ** See what's new at http://www.aol.com ___ Elecraft mailing list Post to: Elecraft@mailman.qth.net You must be a subscriber to post to the list. Subscriber Info (Addr. Change, sub, unsub etc.): http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/subscribers.htm Elecraft web page: http://www.elecraft.com ___ Elecraft mailing list Post to: Elecraft@mailman.qth.net You must be a subscriber to post to the list. Subscriber Info (Addr. Change, sub, unsub etc.): http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/subscribers.htm Elecraft web page: http://www.elecraft.com
RE: [Elecraft] OT: Free software (was: [K2] Remote control programs)
> the best part in keeping with the Amateur Spirit...it's Free. I'm not picking on you Gregg, because I've heard this statement many times. I just don't understand it. Is this a veiled condemnation of companies like Elecraft (and TenTec, MFJ, StepIR, Kenwood, HyGain, Yaesu, Gordon West, HRO, etc. etc. etc.) who charge money for amateur radio products? Is Elecraft not in sync with the "Amateur Spirit"? And if not, then wouldn't one have to admit that the "Amateur Spirit" really doesn't have anything to do with whether or not one charges for one's product? I agree that we all have mentors in this hobby and it would be weird if they charged us for their advice or helping us put up an antenna. But I wouldn't expect my mentor to pay my way to Dayton, or buy me a rig, or pay for my vanity callsign. I think the former is just part of normal human friendships; the latter would be strange. So I don't think that doing something for free is a defining characteristic of the "Amateur Spirit". If anything the Amateur Spirit is about experimentation, building your own equipment, and serving your community's emergency communications needs. If you write your own K2 control program or your own logging software, then that's in keeping with the Amateur Spirit. Whether you keep it for yourself, give it away, or sell it is irrelevant. Craig NZ0R ___ Elecraft mailing list Post to: Elecraft@mailman.qth.net You must be a subscriber to post to the list. Subscriber Info (Addr. Change, sub, unsub etc.): http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/subscribers.htm Elecraft web page: http://www.elecraft.com ___ Elecraft mailing list Post to: Elecraft@mailman.qth.net You must be a subscriber to post to the list. Subscriber Info (Addr. Change, sub, unsub etc.): http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/subscribers.htm Elecraft web page: http://www.elecraft.com
RE: [Elecraft] K3 #23 Up and Running
Good idea. But do the right thing and put it on eBay. You'll probably get more for your position in line than it will cost you for the K3, and someone else will get a shot at this great radio. Since yours is probably going to ship any day now, you'll probably even have the radio before the auction is over, so you'll be able to turn it around quickly for the buyer. Craig NZ0R K3/100 #25 <-- worth the wait K2/100 #4941 <-- worth the wait K1 #1966 <-- worth the wait KX1 #1499 <-- worth the wait -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of John [K7SVV] Sent: Wednesday, November 07, 2007 10:08 PM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]; elecraft@mailman.qth.net Subject: Re: [Elecraft] K3 #23 Up and Running Doug, Well actually I am considering canceling my order. I placed my order on May 1 and I have no idea where I stand in line nor do I have any idea when I will receive my K3. I talked with them yesterday on the phone about changing my order to include the antenna tuner and another filter. They said they would email a copy of my invoice so that I would be certain what was included in my original order and I haven't seen or heard from them since then. The Flex 5000 is looking better all the time. John [K7SVV] - Original Message - From: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: Sent: Wednesday, November 07, 2007 5:30 PM Subject: [Elecraft] K3 #23 Up and Running Should there be anyone out there considering canceling their K3 order or buying another radio because of slow deliveryDON'T DO IT, you WANT this radio!! For a variety of reasons it has been 2 weeks since I took delivery of S/N 23 and I just got it operational yesterday. I haven't actually worked anyone yet, I've just been enjoying getting myself familiar with the awesome receiver! The receiver is quiet...my K2 is quiet but the K3 more-so. The AGC is silky smooth both on SSB and CW. Filters are the stock 2.7 kHz SSB filter and the 5 pole 500 Hz filter for CW and the data modes. These in conjunction with the almost artifact free DSP I feel are all I will ever need for my operating style, though I might eventually spring for the 1.0 kHz filter. As others have observed, I've yet to find a signal that I can't hear on both the K2 and K3 but I'm sure that will come in due course. It is a real joy to listen to signals totally disappear as you tune across them. Audio quality and strength are excellent though the high frequency content is a little high for my liking. I haven't played with the equalizer yet but I suspect that will solve the problem. Now all I need is a 10 watt QSO before I install the KPA! As far as the build went it was pretty much uneventful. As always, the Elecraft construction manual was beautifully written and illustrated...follow the step-by-step and you can't go wrong. All of the parts were there and I'm almost to the point where I just won't bother to inventory an Elecraft kit (tnx Christine, Lindsay and Mariana!). The problems that did arise: 1. I was having difficulty mating J70 on the KANT3 board with P70 on the rf board. Looked at the connector and found that one of the holes was plugged. An email to Eric brought a quick reply that that was supposed to key the connectors but that the corresponding pin on P70 hadn't been clipped. 2.) While attaching the front panel to the front panel board it was virtually impossible to get the mic connector through the corresponding hole and keep the rest of the board aligned. The instructions make mention of this possibility and suggest "wiggling" the board and panel until they mate. In this case there just plain wasn't enough wiggle room so I used a sharp pocket knife to slightly increase the diameter of the hole with no harm to the panel. 3.) When I reached the "smoke test" stage all was well except that I COULDN'T TURN THE POWER OFF with the front panel switch despite the fact that it turned it on...very strange! A note to K3 support got a quick response suggesting it was probably a bent pin on one of the connectors between the FP board and the rf board...not so! There was some more back and forth and then Wayne asked if I had down-loaded the latest firmware...I hadn't but that particular problem was solved by turning the sub receiver rf and af pots fully CCW () don't ask me. ask Wayne! 4.) Firmware down load...I purchased the KUSB USB to serial port interface and it didn't work with my one year old Dell Dimension 3000 running XP. A standard RS232 cable direct to the serial port worked just fine. I plan to play with the USB configuration some more and either get it to work or figure out why it doesn't. And I assure you that the usual terrific Elecraft support is there! Doug W6JD K2 #1626, K3 #23 ___ Elecraft mailing list Post to: Elecraft@ma
RE: [Elecraft] K3
It has actually "piqued" your interest, but either way, you're interested, and that's good. :-) I did some side-by-side tests with my K2 and K3 tonight and made a couple interesting observations. 1) Both receivers did a similar job on weak signals. I'm sure the K3 is better by the numbers but it's hard to find the exact signal on the air to demonstrate that. I found when a signal faded to unreadable on the K2 it was also unreadable on the K3 and vice-versa. 2) The K3 has more volume available. There were times at Field Day last year that I was running full volume on the K2, what with visitors making a racket and the generator running. (Actually the most distracting thing about the generator was the smell. We ran biodiesel and it smelled like french fries all weekend. M French fries). Where was I? Oh, yeah, the K3 can be cranked up louder. 3) When I disconnect the antenna from the K2 I get a lot of hiss. When I disconnect the antenna from the K3 it goes silent. Which leads to my next point... 4) The S-meter on the K2 sat at about S3 when listening to a weak signal. The S-meter on the K3 generally sat at S0 and bounced around in the S2 or S3 range when my target signal was transmitting. Finally, this probably won't happen every time you have a problem with your K3, but a couple days ago I reported that I was losing most of the audio when I cranked the filter bandwidth below 350 hz, and today version 1.34 of the MCU software was announced and the problem is gone. So, a) that's pretty cool, and b) the software to download and install the update to the K3 is idiot-proof (unless part of your idiocy is that you're not running Windows -- but even then, OSX and Linux clients are in the works). Craig NZ0R K3/100 #25 K2/100 #4941 K1 #1966 KX1 #1499 -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of rattray Sent: Tuesday, November 06, 2007 5:32 PM To: Elecraft Subject: [Elecraft] K3 To the people who are actually operating K3s on the air, please keep those reports coming on the Elecraft reflector - I'm reading every one of them as I'm considering whether or not I should purchase a K3 - I must admit the report about being able to copy cw as a single signal in crowded conditions sure has peaked my interest! - tnx & 72 - Bruce. -ps- of course what's happening to the Cdn dollar is helping too :-)) 72/73 - Bruce ve5rc/ve5qrp - QRP-C#1, QRP-L#886, A1 Operator QRP-Canada - http://www.qrp-canada.com ___ Elecraft mailing list Post to: Elecraft@mailman.qth.net You must be a subscriber to post to the list. Subscriber Info (Addr. Change, sub, unsub etc.): http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/subscribers.htm Elecraft web page: http://www.elecraft.com
RE: [Elecraft] K3 and CW SS
To answer my own question: In context of the auto-spot feature of the K3 I asked: > I haven't looked yet to see if there's a way to move the receiver > without moving the transmitter. Sometimes people answering my CQ's are > far, far, off frequency and it's nice to RIT them into the filter > bandwidth at least. It occurred to me today I can just operate split. Set the transmit frequency into B then I can monkey with A all I want, including using auto-spot to zero-beat a CQ reply that is off frequency, thus pulling him into the passband of the filter. So with a button push and a crank of the filter (or assign the filter setting to one of the programmable buttons) I can zero-in on an off-frequency caller without losing too much time or concentration. I suspect it will be even easier when my subreceiver gets here. :-) Craig NZ0R ___ Elecraft mailing list Post to: Elecraft@mailman.qth.net You must be a subscriber to post to the list. Subscriber Info (Addr. Change, sub, unsub etc.): http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/subscribers.htm Elecraft web page: http://www.elecraft.com
RE: [Elecraft] [OT] CW speed and decoders and SS
> What blew me away trying to get into my third CW contest was the > speed everyone was running. Additionally I had not dealt with > sequential exchanges before, and wanted to listen to one first > to get the "feel" of the exchange. But it was all too fast. > The concept of answering folks at what they sent, was few and far > between in my experience. I heard some folks consistently sending > slower (meaning 20-25) only to be answered by much higher rates. > They still worked them, so they were capable of higher than they > were sending (seems quite possible) or they had help. I think SS almost demands computerized logging so the sequence numbers are handled automatically. I use WriteLog and interface to the rig through a microHam microKeyer. The nice thing about this setup is I can speed up or slow down by turning a knob. I have trouble sending by hand above about 25 wpm but no problem turning a knob up to 40. :-) I take pride in the fact while I call CQ at 30 wpm I crank it down to 15 if you call me at 15. You will be able to copy my "R TU" at the end, but the QRZ will be back up to speed. Similarly, if you're calling CQ at 35 or 40 you'll get my reply at that speed. I've been a private pilot for about 17 years. My dad is just learning to fly. When he and I fly together into busy airspace like O'Hare, he's always amazed at how I handle the complex communications. The secret is that all controllers say the same thing in the same order no matter where you go. Once you know the pattern it's easy to understand them because you're already anticipating it. Copying contest exchanges at 40 wpm is no different. You know what's coming so you can anticipate it. I copy conversational CW in the 20 wpm range (OK, maybe more like 18) but have no problem with any speed in a contest because I know what's coming. > Decoders must be useful, the K3 has one > Are they using the MFJ decoder I turned on the K3 decoder for the contest and I glanced at it a couple times when I wasn't sure I heard right. It does a much better job than the piece of crap MFJ decoder (sorry, "piece of crap MFJ" is an oxymoron; I shouldn've just said "piece of crap" and you would've known what I meant). My pet peeve are the guys who send different parts of the report at different speeds; as if sending their call at 50 wpm is going to increase their QSO rate. I like to pause for a little longer than normal when I reply to them just to eat up all the time they saved. Then there's the bozo who decided not to send his call in the exchange, apparently because I already know it. That really throws off the trick of knowing what's coming. All of a sudden I'm getting numbers where I expect a callsign. I had to ask for his ck and sec again, thus eating way more time then he saved on the next 100 Q's by not sending his call. And what's with the keyers that separate the elements by nanoseconds instead of dit-widths? They sound like a solid tone. Enough complaining. :-) Craig NZ0R K3/100 #25 ___ Elecraft mailing list Post to: Elecraft@mailman.qth.net You must be a subscriber to post to the list. Subscriber Info (Addr. Change, sub, unsub etc.): http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/subscribers.htm Elecraft web page: http://www.elecraft.com
RE: [Elecraft] k3 observed in SS
I worked both N6XI and K2VCO with my K3. I didn't know they were running K3's, but that would explain the vortex of K3 mojo that formed around my antenna during those QSO's. Craig NZ0R -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of cloud runner Sent: Sunday, November 04, 2007 4:50 PM To: elecraft@mailman.qth.net Subject: [Elecraft] k3 observed in SS Worked two known K3's in the sweepstakes. i heard MANY loud signals with nasty clicks or nasty phase noise. I have a pretty good idea what kind of radios I was listeing to. the two K3's i know I worked were in the hands of N6XI and K2VCO. both were loud here. and both were delightefully clean. the cleanest radios on the band. That's a joy to observe 73, Fred - KT5X K2 # 0700 K3 # ??? May 1 order ___ Elecraft mailing list Post to: Elecraft@mailman.qth.net You must be a subscriber to post to the list. Subscriber Info (Addr. Change, sub, unsub etc.): http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/subscribers.htm Elecraft web page: http://www.elecraft.com ___ Elecraft mailing list Post to: Elecraft@mailman.qth.net You must be a subscriber to post to the list. Subscriber Info (Addr. Change, sub, unsub etc.): http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/subscribers.htm Elecraft web page: http://www.elecraft.com
RE: [Elecraft] K3 assembly pictures posted
I noticed it when I took the board out of its bag. I don't think it's assembly; I think it's shipping. They just get smashed by whatever is on top. No damage; they're just disheveled. Like I said I noticed it but then I moved on to the next step and didn't think any more about it. Next time I open the radio I'll line them all up. You could avoid the problem by convincing Elecraft to ship a "torroids only" version of the kit. It would be the same kit but without the torroids. You'd have the joy of winding them yourself and installing them on the board. Of course you wouldn't get the benefit of factory testing of your finished K3. :-) Craig NZ0R -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Stan Rife Sent: Sunday, November 04, 2007 3:11 PM To: elecraft@mailman.qth.net Subject: Re: [Elecraft] K3 assembly pictures posted I was also thinking about the "reckless abandon" look of the mess of torroids on the boards. when I "hand crafted" my K2 I made sure things were nice and neat so I could say with pride that "I built that". If someone looks inside my K3 I'm definitely going to make sure they know that I did not make that mess in there. I suppose it makes no difference in the operation of the radio, but my god, don't those board assemblers have any pride in their work? Wayne, Eric...do you have any control over the quality control coming from the assemblers? Stan Rife W5EWA Tom Hall <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: "Interesting, but that jumble of toroids on the rf board is just plain ugly. I like 'em neatly lined up like on my K2." I guess it's a matter of taste. I like something that looks like it was crafted with the care of human hands instead of everything being lined up perfectly by a heartless robot. It's amusing to me to think that the sales person that took my order for a K3 could be the same person who may have wound my toroids. It makes me feel like I'm getting a custom radio. I think the K3 looks really beautiful. Mine is a May 1st purchase so it can't be long now. Craig, thanks for the pictures, they provide a nice perspective on things to come. Tom, AK2B ___ Elecraft mailing list Post to: Elecraft@mailman.qth.net You must be a subscriber to post to the list. Subscriber Info (Addr. Change, sub, unsub etc.): http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/subscribers.htm Elecraft web page: http://www.elecraft.com ___ Elecraft mailing list Post to: Elecraft@mailman.qth.net You must be a subscriber to post to the list. Subscriber Info (Addr. Change, sub, unsub etc.): http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/subscribers.htm Elecraft web page: http://www.elecraft.com ___ Elecraft mailing list Post to: Elecraft@mailman.qth.net You must be a subscriber to post to the list. Subscriber Info (Addr. Change, sub, unsub etc.): http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/subscribers.htm Elecraft web page: http://www.elecraft.com
[Elecraft] K3 and CW SS
Well I've worked a few of you so far in SS on the K3 including Vic K2VCO and Craig AC0DS. I'm pretty sure that conveys some kind of blessing upon you. :-) It's pretty cool to be scanning down the band, hear a CQ SS, hit the SPOT button and the radio just instantly zero-beats. I haven't looked yet to see if there's a way to move the receiver without moving the transmitter. Sometimes people answering my CQ's are far, far, off frequency and it's nice to RIT them into the filter bandwidth at least. One of the things I've noticed is that the rig runs cooler than the K2. With the K2 if I spend an hour or two calling CQ I can hear that little fan wind up and the heat sink gets warm. The K3 is just lightly blowing cool air out the back and you'd never know it if you didn't put your hand back there. The other thing that's odd that I never noticed with the K2 is there's something about the sidetone and the QSK that tricks me. I'll punch a function key in WriteLog to reply to a caller and my brain hears my signal and thinks it's someone else calling the same guy. I don't know if that means the QSK operation is smoother or I'm just tired. Hey there's Craig AC0DS calling CQ on 80m. He just showed up on the frequency I'm sitting on while I type this email. Too bad I've already worked him. :-) Craig NZ0R K3/100 #25 ___ Elecraft mailing list Post to: Elecraft@mailman.qth.net You must be a subscriber to post to the list. Subscriber Info (Addr. Change, sub, unsub etc.): http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/subscribers.htm Elecraft web page: http://www.elecraft.com
[Elecraft] K3 assembly pictures posted
This message didn't seem to go through on my first attempt last night. Sorry if you get two copies... I've posted page-by-page assembly pictures of my K3/100 #25 at my web site: http://www.craigr.com/coppermine/thumbnails.php?album=70 To view the pictures in order make sure you sort by file name, not title or date. (Click the "+" sign to the right of "file name".) That might be the default view. The pictures are based on the Rev B assembly manuals. They are changing all the time so the page numbers might not agree with yours when you get it. On the other hand, I don't know if these pictures are as handy as the K2 or KX1 pictures I have at my site since there aren't many tricky steps or confusing components. But they're fun to look at if you're waiting for a K3. There are 69 high-resolution pictures there; more than enough to drool over. :-) Craig NZ0R K3/100 #25 K2/100 #4941 K1 #1966 KX1 #1499 ___ Elecraft mailing list Post to: Elecraft@mailman.qth.net You must be a subscriber to post to the list. Subscriber Info (Addr. Change, sub, unsub etc.): http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/subscribers.htm Elecraft web page: http://www.elecraft.com
[Elecraft] K3 S/N #25 is alive
I just finished the basic QRP K3. I still need to do the PA. Total building time was 5 hours and 48 minutes. I didn't waste a lot of time inventorying parts up-front. Only 37 minutes was dedicated to counting screws. I inventoried the "miscellaneous" bag, which has almost all the hardware, and the front panel bag, which has some more hardware for the front panel. Because of the way the K3 is kitted, the rest of the subassemblies can be easily compared to the parts list as they're needed. As is my custom I took a picture at the end of every page but frankly it's a little boring when you're not watching the number of parts mounted to the board grow as you flip each page. I'll probably post them at my site just to be thorough, but I don't know if they'll be very helpful. The photos in the manual are all you really need. The build time also includes a couple of re-do's as I tried to handle a situation where I didn't have the right screws for the job. The manual called for two 3/8" screws, but I didn't have any of those. Looking at an older version of the assembly manual I decided to substitute 3/16" screws. Then after talking to the experts we concluded they must've substituted 1/4" screws in my kit. So I removed the side panel and replaced the 3/16" screws with 1/4". Then when I was almost done I found out I was two 1/4" screws short so off came the side panel and back went the 3/16" screws to free up the 1/4" for their true purpose. All of this is being reported back to Elecraft so your kit probably won't have this issue. :-) Hopefully I'll get the PA finished tomorrow and have the rig on the air for CW SS. Craig NZ0R K3/100 #25 ___ Elecraft mailing list Post to: Elecraft@mailman.qth.net You must be a subscriber to post to the list. Subscriber Info (Addr. Change, sub, unsub etc.): http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/subscribers.htm Elecraft web page: http://www.elecraft.com
RE: [Elecraft] K3 STATUS
> but the more we whine, the more pressure we put > on Elecraft to hurry up & get 'er done, the more likely it is that > they will feel forced to go to heroic measures to get the boxes out > the door. The fact of the matter is that no amount of whining is going to change anything. The more we whine, the more we whine. The product won't necessarily be better, the building experience won't be sweeter, the radio won't have more performance. It will just happen when it happens. Nothing is changed when one person complains to the other 3000 of us on the reflector. I finally came to the conclusion that I either needed to ask for a refund or just wait. I think that's good advice. Craig NZ0R ___ Elecraft mailing list Post to: Elecraft@mailman.qth.net You must be a subscriber to post to the list. Subscriber Info (Addr. Change, sub, unsub etc.): http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/subscribers.htm Elecraft web page: http://www.elecraft.com
RE: [Elecraft] Egg Crates
> As I wrote in my original writeup, I used three 1 1/2 dozen > cardboard egg cartons, which was sufficient for all the hardware. Must be nice. I figured all us old hams were off cholesterol. My "eggs" come in a little milk-carton. :-) I use bead trays from a craft store for my kit parts. Craig NZ0R Cholesterol: 152 (325 before Zetia, Crestor, and two coronary stents) ___ Elecraft mailing list Post to: Elecraft@mailman.qth.net You must be a subscriber to post to the list. Subscriber Info (Addr. Change, sub, unsub etc.): http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/subscribers.htm Elecraft web page: http://www.elecraft.com
[Elecraft] K3 S/N 25 arrives
After several days of monitoring the progress of UPS driving from California to Iowa, K3/100 #25 has arrived on my porch. Ordered by fax very late the night of April 27 while the gang was at Visalia. Just in time for CW SS if I can find a few hours between now and then to build it. Craig NZ0R KX1 #1499 K1 #1966 K2/100 #4941 K3/100 #25 ___ Elecraft mailing list Post to: Elecraft@mailman.qth.net You must be a subscriber to post to the list. Subscriber Info (Addr. Change, sub, unsub etc.): http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/subscribers.htm Elecraft web page: http://www.elecraft.com
RE: [Elecraft] K2 Problem and new elecraft kit proposal
I just put black tape across all the open holes from the inside. I figure it might also help with cooling (controlling where air enters and exits). Craig NZ0R -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of f6dro Sent: Monday, October 22, 2007 9:44 AM To: elecraft@mailman.qth.net Subject: [Elecraft] K2 Problem and new elecraft kit proposal Hello everyone here. Last week , I posted a mail on this list , reporting a problem with my K2. Strange behaviour , sometimes loosing all the commands on the front pannel , sometimes loosing RX sensitivity , and recovering it by pushing band+ and band - , I even found the K2 in TX mod e, mode where it decided to go by itself. Today I opened the box , and immediatly found the problem origin : There is a unused RS232 connector hole in the rear pannel. A mouse entered by this hole and used the K2 as an high cost toilet. I took all the boards off the box and started to clean them. Tomorrow I will reassemble it , and I hope all the problems will be gone away. So U all K2 users , U should put the connectors in the options holes to avoid this pb. I suggest to the Elecraft crew a new kit: K2BUG: ultrasonic board to avoid mouses , spiders ect... :0) 73 Dom/F6DRO ___ Elecraft mailing list Post to: Elecraft@mailman.qth.net You must be a subscriber to post to the list. Subscriber Info (Addr. Change, sub, unsub etc.): http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/subscribers.htm Elecraft web page: http://www.elecraft.com ___ Elecraft mailing list Post to: Elecraft@mailman.qth.net You must be a subscriber to post to the list. Subscriber Info (Addr. Change, sub, unsub etc.): http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/subscribers.htm Elecraft web page: http://www.elecraft.com
RE: [Elecraft] K3 Porch Watch 2007
> I only know of one delivered K3 (#66) - there must be more out > there - I really hope there are more out there! #66 went to a "beta tester" who was to build it and give comments. I personally think that was the only one that shipped last week, or if more did, that they went to a small number of pre-arranged test-builders. I think the first real batch goes out this week. I believe I'm in that batch and my card hasn't been charged yet, as far as I can tell. Craig NZ0R ___ Elecraft mailing list Post to: Elecraft@mailman.qth.net You must be a subscriber to post to the list. Subscriber Info (Addr. Change, sub, unsub etc.): http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/subscribers.htm Elecraft web page: http://www.elecraft.com
RE: [Elecraft] K3 Manual Question
> What's wrong with doing it that way? There must be something wrong with > it, because nobody in the ham world is doing it. Would most hams not > like such a manual scheme? I sure would. It's prohibitively expensive and adds significant complications for the manufacturer, who has to maintain revision information per-page. The solution of offering a downloadable PDF of the manual is simpler for the manufacturer and solves the problem for the relatively small number of people who care about having the very latest software rev and manual. If I was in charge I would provide an electronic manual supplemented by a thorough quick-reference booklet like the ones from www.niftyaccessories.com. Users could print the manual if they wanted, but otherwise I wouldn't have killed as many trees, Al Gore would be happy, and we'd save $10/unit sold over distributing a seldom-read manual. Craig NZ0R Back to monitoring my credit card balance waiting to see a charge from Elecraft. ___ Elecraft mailing list Post to: Elecraft@mailman.qth.net You must be a subscriber to post to the list. Subscriber Info (Addr. Change, sub, unsub etc.): http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/subscribers.htm Elecraft web page: http://www.elecraft.com
RE: [Elecraft] k3 delivery
> Oct 8. has gone. The magic week is going. Oct 8 was a holiday in the US and there was no mail service. By choosing this week to start shipping, Elecraft cleverly bought an extra day, since they couldn't have shipped anything yesterday anyway. Only in America would we celebrate October 12 on October 8. But that's a subject for another list. Craig NZ0R ___ Elecraft mailing list Post to: Elecraft@mailman.qth.net You must be a subscriber to post to the list. Subscriber Info (Addr. Change, sub, unsub etc.): http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/subscribers.htm Elecraft web page: http://www.elecraft.com
RE: [Elecraft] K3 status Update - Sept. 29, 2007
I regret adding to the noise but I didn't see this in the FAQ and I'm curious about it. Are you making any effort to ship the K3's in the order that orders were received or is there some other algorithm being applied? (For example, it might depend on what options a person selected, what part of the country/world they live in, or some other consideration.) Are kits being shipped before (or after) assembled K3's? Or does it not matter? I realize this is a trivial question, but for those of us who take some degree of pride in low serial numbers, the answers to these questions would be at least interesting. Craig NZ0R ___ Elecraft mailing list Post to: Elecraft@mailman.qth.net You must be a subscriber to post to the list. Subscriber Info (Addr. Change, sub, unsub etc.): http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/subscribers.htm Elecraft web page: http://www.elecraft.com
RE: [Elecraft] K3 list?
> A FORUM message board, similiar to the > examples you gave - I feel, would serve the > Elecraft customer base... Not again! :-) There's a thriving K3 group on Yahoo Groups: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/Elecraft_K3. That might be a good place to move the K3 traffic. This discussion has been squashed before and every time it comes up so it seems somewhat pointless to bring it up again. I just point out the other K3 group for those who are unaware of it. Eric is a regular poster there. We all know the relative merits of a Web-based forum. I wonder if we'll be able to keep this thread short this time around since it's all been asked and answered a dozen times before and is therefore moot? :-) Craig NZ0R ___ Elecraft mailing list Post to: Elecraft@mailman.qth.net You must be a subscriber to post to the list. Subscriber Info (Addr. Change, sub, unsub etc.): http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/subscribers.htm Elecraft web page: http://www.elecraft.com
RE: [Elecraft] Revised Shipping date for K3
> Have the complainers bought *any* new high-tech stuff, hardware or > software, lately? > Have they ever ... > Have they ever ... > Have they ever ... > Do the Japanese .. > So who cares if it's a few weeks late? Or months, for that matter? One thing I HAVE done is collected credit card payments in advance for a product that didn't ship on its ship date. It's my understanding that when you go beyond 30 days late you need to send a written notice to those who paid by credit card with an updated ship date and the offer to cancel with a full refund. You have to repeat that 30 days after the new date passes. I may be mistaken; it may be that you only have to notify those who ordered by mail. I can't remember if the rule comes from the credit card companies or the US Mail. I know it is challenging to bring out a new product, and especially to do it under the scrutiny of your customers. I'm just once again pointing out that while Elecraft is a great company they're not perfect. I think people are well within their rights to complain about the delays. I'm not complaining; just defending the rights of others to do so. Craig NZ0R ___ Elecraft mailing list Post to: Elecraft@mailman.qth.net You must be a subscriber to post to the list. Subscriber Info (Addr. Change, sub, unsub etc.): http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/subscribers.htm Elecraft web page: http://www.elecraft.com
RE: [Elecraft] How do I unsubscribe?
> If a specific word like the product name is included in the subject > line I can have my mail client sort the mails for me into different > mailboxes. For instance all the mails regarding K2 could start with > K2 in the subject, same for K3, etc. Then how do you make thousands > of users to follow such naming convention? Since that recommendation is already in the FAQ for the list, apparently it is impossible. Unsubscribe procedures are also spelled out in several places, yet we have a thread on that topic. The request that we not chide other members for excessive, off-topic, or impolite posts is also in the FAQ, yet those are frequent topics of discussion. The FAQ also includes suggestions for dealing with the volume of traffic. There will always be users at every level, from n00bs to h4x0rz. The sooner we either just accept that or learn to procactively adapt to the inconveniences presented by other internet users, the happier we will all be. Craig NZ0R ___ Elecraft mailing list Post to: Elecraft@mailman.qth.net You must be a subscriber to post to the list. Subscriber Info (Addr. Change, sub, unsub etc.): http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/subscribers.htm Elecraft web page: http://www.elecraft.com
RE: [Elecraft] How do I unsubscribe?
> I am amazed at how much operating time people are prepared to devote > to trivial and irrelevant discussions. Typically recently a couple > of us raised the point about adding ACS to the K3 internal keyer. > This is something which has been available for over 20 years in K0II, > Logikey, and ETM and now K1EL designs, yet it generated a whole > string of negative comments then a history of el-keyers. Yeah I agree. For example, look at how much discussion is generated as a result of a misdirected unsub request from an AOL user. :-) Craig NZ0R ...who never realized he was somehow being more polite by always signing his name and callsign, but now knows better. Oh, yeah: KX1 #1499 K1 #1966 K2/100 #4941 K3/100 < #220 ___ Elecraft mailing list Post to: Elecraft@mailman.qth.net You must be a subscriber to post to the list. Subscriber Info (Addr. Change, sub, unsub etc.): http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/subscribers.htm Elecraft web page: http://www.elecraft.com
RE: [Elecraft] K3 Manual....where is it???
> Darn, you guys are fast! Were you repeatedly hitting refresh until > the link was added to the K3 page? ;-) > Eric Check your logs... I was guessing at file names and trying to log into the site using FTP with various "guest" accounts/passwords so I could view the K3 directory when I noticed that the link was on the K3 page. It wasn't as satisfying to just click on the link, but it got the job done. BTW your FTP server seems reasonably secure. :-) Craig NZ0R ___ Elecraft mailing list Post to: Elecraft@mailman.qth.net You must be a subscriber to post to the list. Subscriber Info (Addr. Change, sub, unsub etc.): http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/subscribers.htm Elecraft web page: http://www.elecraft.com
RE: [Elecraft] K3 Manual....where is it???
Got it! Craig NZ0R -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Don Rasmussen Sent: Monday, September 10, 2007 11:05 PM To: Elecraft Subject: [Elecraft] K3 Manualwhere is it??? Yeah, I know that little bird, he works for the "other side", a fantastic liar, don't believe a word he says. And remember, to a bird, talk is cheep. A birdie said it'd be along about 9-ish PDT. The slow, lazy engineering writer helping Wayne didn't get the draft to him until dinner time and then... Ron AC7AC ___ Elecraft mailing list Post to: Elecraft@mailman.qth.net You must be a subscriber to post to the list. Subscriber Info (Addr. Change, sub, unsub etc.): http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/subscribers.htm Elecraft web page: http://www.elecraft.com ___ Elecraft mailing list Post to: Elecraft@mailman.qth.net You must be a subscriber to post to the list. Subscriber Info (Addr. Change, sub, unsub etc.): http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/subscribers.htm Elecraft web page: http://www.elecraft.com
RE: [Elecraft] Misc Photos of K3?
> Someone, in past 2 weeks, posted a message with... Another reminder of the great list archives at http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft. The link is on the bottom of every email sent to the list. Craig NZ0R ___ Elecraft mailing list Post to: Elecraft@mailman.qth.net You must be a subscriber to post to the list. Subscriber Info (Addr. Change, sub, unsub etc.): http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/subscribers.htm Elecraft web page: http://www.elecraft.com
RE: [Elecraft] I can't take it any more . . .
> I tried and tried, but I finally had to give in. I ordered my > K3 today. Delivery will be "late November or early December." Those of us on the list for the first production run are starting to think we may be looking at the same date. :-) Craig NZ0R ___ Elecraft mailing list Post to: Elecraft@mailman.qth.net You must be a subscriber to post to the list. Subscriber Info (Addr. Change, sub, unsub etc.): http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/subscribers.htm Elecraft web page: http://www.elecraft.com
RE: [Elecraft] K3 front panel
> I hrd rumor that the Elecraft guys started with their idea of an ideal > package size and worked all the rest of the rig into that predetermined > idea. Sorry, but backward thinking design the features and then > size the package to fit the features the cart and horse strikes > again. This is only true if package size isn't a priority. If it is, then it's a feature that, as you say, has to be designed-in before other less important considerations are implemented. Whatever your priorities are in design should determine what else you can do, and how you should do it. Elecraft values effortless portability over a completely simple (one control per function) user interface. That may not match your priorities. They could just as easily say that you're thinking backwards because you could end up with a rig that is too big to be easily portable. So the issue isn't backwards thinking, it's different design priorities. I have limited space and relatively frequent transportation of the radio. So it works for me. Craig NZ0R ___ Elecraft mailing list Post to: Elecraft@mailman.qth.net You must be a subscriber to post to the list. Subscriber Info (Addr. Change, sub, unsub etc.): http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/subscribers.htm Elecraft web page: http://www.elecraft.com
RE: [Elecraft] "wasted" power (was Questions for any K3 FTs)
> In a year of 365 days, there are 8760 hours. With a 100 watt load, that's > 876 kilowatt hours per *year* to run all the devices. I think the issue for the tree-huggers is to multiply that by 100 million households in the US and you're talking about a lot of wasted power and a lot of global warming. Like the ad I heard yesterday telling you to put your cream and sugar in the cup before adding coffee in order to save on the need for disposable stir sticks, the idea is to get everyone to unplug to save the planet. Of course one new nuclear power plant would generate more than enough power to heat your coffee AND keep your TV on AND it would destroy less ozone than a coal-burning power plant, but we can't have any of that. Anyway the solution to all this is to do what Al Gore does: Just buy some carbon offsets, stick some kind of colored ribbon magnet on the back of your SUV to show you love the planet, and quit worrying about it. Craig NZ0R ___ Elecraft mailing list Post to: Elecraft@mailman.qth.net You must be a subscriber to post to the list. Subscriber Info (Addr. Change, sub, unsub etc.): http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/subscribers.htm Elecraft web page: http://www.elecraft.com
RE: [Elecraft] K3 st TOKYO FAIR
> Rough translation by Google (BETA): Boy those Japanese really know how to write a compelling review. :-) Craig NZ0R ___ Elecraft mailing list Post to: Elecraft@mailman.qth.net You must be a subscriber to post to the list. Subscriber Info (Addr. Change, sub, unsub etc.): http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/subscribers.htm Elecraft web page: http://www.elecraft.com
RE: [Elecraft] Should I or shouldn't I.
> Will the K3 give me much more than what I already have with the K2 with > my style of operating? Keep in mind that I don't do digital modes so, > that doesn't count and contesting doesn't count either. I would think you'd be interested in the improved receiver and filters, espcially for rag-chewing when signal quality isn't ideal. I don't do digital modes, either, but one of the features of the K3 I'm looking forward to is its ability to decode/encode digital modes without a computer. One of the reasons I haven't bothered with digital is not wanting to take the time to figure out how to do it. Being able to just tune in a signal and go might give me the opportunity to try a mode I haven't been able to try before. I'm a light-weight contester so the second receiver option allows me to take a step up in the contesting world without much effort. The 6m capability gives me a new band to explore. This will be my first 6m-capable radio. I think the common theme is that the advanced features and specs of the radio for a person who doesn't normally put a lot of demands on a radio give me the opportunity to try something new without a lot of extra effort or equipment. It seems like that might be something appealing to you. Craig NZ0R KX1 #1499 K1 #1966 K2/100 #4941 K3/100 - T-9 days and counting ___ Elecraft mailing list Post to: Elecraft@mailman.qth.net You must be a subscriber to post to the list. Subscriber Info (Addr. Change, sub, unsub etc.): http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/subscribers.htm Elecraft web page: http://www.elecraft.com
RE: [Elecraft] Conception of a K2
> If your eyes require it, get a god magnifier. God magnifiers are also good for spotting the devil, who is said to be in the details. Either way a good god magnifier is worth the investment. Craig NZ0R KX1 #1499 K1 #1966 K2/100 #4941 K3/100 coming soon, right? ___ Elecraft mailing list Post to: Elecraft@mailman.qth.net You must be a subscriber to post to the list. Subscriber Info (Addr. Change, sub, unsub etc.): http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/subscribers.htm Elecraft web page: http://www.elecraft.com
RE: [Elecraft] Is the K3 capable of ESSB?
As a CW op with no dog in this race, I wonder what makes splashing a 2.1 KHz to 2.7 KHz wide voice signal across the band morally right but 6 KHz or more morally wrong. Are those who are opposed to 6 KHz-wide SSB doing everything they can to narrow their bandwidth down to as few hz as possible? That is, is anyone working on NSSB (narrow SSB) out of a sense of moral outrage over everyone wasting all that bandwidth at 2.x KHz? If not, then isn't the whole argument just a spitting contest with no technical or moral merit? (Sorry, I argue religion for a living and it's often the case that the opposition is practicing the very thing they're arguing against, just in a different direction or order of magnitude. I can't help but wonder if the same logic doesn't apply here.) Craig NZ0R ___ Elecraft mailing list Post to: Elecraft@mailman.qth.net You must be a subscriber to post to the list. Subscriber Info (Addr. Change, sub, unsub etc.): http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/subscribers.htm Elecraft web page: http://www.elecraft.com
RE: [Elecraft] K2 for a newbie HAM
There are a couple important things to do: 1) Get the right equipment. Read the information at the Elecraft site and get a real soldering station with a variety of tip sizes and an adjustable temperature control. Get the right solder. Get one of those spring-loaded solder suckers for fixing your mistakes. The bulb-shaped ones don't work. (If you can afford a real desoldering station then that's even better, but it's overkill.) 2) Read everything you can find at the Elecraft site about proper soldering technique. Order a minikit or two to assemble first -- maybe the dummy load, which is dirt-simple and is useful for tuning the radio when you're done. If you have a good soldering iron -- not the fixed-temperature cheap Radio Shack model -- and you have a good idea what you're doing, you should be OK. You'll need some kind of magnifying glasses or one of those lights with the magnifying lense built in. And you'll need something to deal with static -- like a static mat and ground strap all properly grounded. Good luck and have fun! Craig NZ0R KX1 #1499 K1 #1966 K2/100 #4941 K3/100 coming soon! -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of John Jolley Sent: Wednesday, August 08, 2007 4:43 PM To: elecraft@mailman.qth.net Subject: [Elecraft] K2 for a newbie HAM Folks - I am very new to amateur radio and have a question - am looking at my first rig and leaning towards a k2 (would begin without the additional 100W's). I do not have much experience with electronics but am (in general) very handy - is this something that someone with little to no experience can do if they are careful? Or is assembling the kit probably not a good way to go for someone with limited experience. Any opinions are appreciated in advance - Thanks! John Jolley - KD8FKC - Columbus, Ohio ___ Elecraft mailing list Post to: Elecraft@mailman.qth.net You must be a subscriber to post to the list. Subscriber Info (Addr. Change, sub, unsub etc.): http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/subscribers.htm Elecraft web page: http://www.elecraft.com ___ Elecraft mailing list Post to: Elecraft@mailman.qth.net You must be a subscriber to post to the list. Subscriber Info (Addr. Change, sub, unsub etc.): http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/subscribers.htm Elecraft web page: http://www.elecraft.com
RE: [Elecraft] K2 #6110 Is Alive
> 2) The heatsink has the new holes punched in the bottom for the > transverter but the holes were not covered with that neat tape I used black tape to cover my holes. Consider mounting BNC jacks or whatever fits there just to fill the holes. Craig NZ0R ___ Elecraft mailing list Post to: Elecraft@mailman.qth.net You must be a subscriber to post to the list. Subscriber Info (Addr. Change, sub, unsub etc.): http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/subscribers.htm Elecraft web page: http://www.elecraft.com
RE: [Elecraft] Solder in Elecraft kits - Business Opportunity?
> While as a young EE engineer at Eastman Kodak, in > Rochester - we were immersed in a active "employee > suggestion program". When I worked for Rockwell Collins (the old Collins Radio Company) they had a "Productivity Improvement Program". We had to submit ideas for posters to be put up around the building promoting productivity. I drew a sketch of an engineer at his desk, hard at work. His hand was outstretched toward his waste basket to toss a sheet of paper. On the paper you could read "Memo: Productivity Improvement Program." At another company I was on the executive committee that had to review the ideas from an employee suggestion program. All the ideas were completely lame but we were required to choose one each week and give the person a cash reward, then implement the idea. The ideas were so dumb it became completely demoralizing for the whole company. Of course the president of the company (who was usually on the golf course) and the HR department kept it going long after it lost its usefulness. Back on topic: I will send a hank of appropriate solder to any new K2/K1/KX1 kit buyer for $9.95 and the cost of shipping. Craig NZ0R ___ Elecraft mailing list Post to: Elecraft@mailman.qth.net You must be a subscriber to post to the list. Subscriber Info (Addr. Change, sub, unsub etc.): http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/subscribers.htm Elecraft web page: http://www.elecraft.com
RE: [Elecraft] K2/K3 size
> The small size is a (minor) consideration in my choice. > It will be used in our RV six months out of each year, > as is/was my K2. I wasn't going to contribute to the noise, but with people questioning the relative importance of size I wanted to add one voice in favor of small. I work from home. I have two computers under my desk and two monitors on top. My "shack" is an area about 24" wide and 24" deep on one of the arms of my wrap-around desk. My K3 will be under my K2 which is under my K1 which is under my KX1. The only reason (ONLY reason) I don't own any cool vintage Collins equipment (which was made here in Cedar Rapids and is where I used to work) is because I don't have room for it. I know I'm the only one to whom size matters. We all have different reasons, I'm sure, but I'm willing to bet that size, weight, appearance, cost, and other "superficial" issues are at least as important, if not more important, to many of us than are receiver sensitivity, band stacking registers, roofing filters, and other features and performance issues. To make supposedly "objective" observations about the relative merits of any one feature or benefit of the K3 or any radio is to be myopic at best and narcissistic at worst. Craig NZ0R ___ Elecraft mailing list Post to: Elecraft@mailman.qth.net You must be a subscriber to post to the list. Subscriber Info (Addr. Change, sub, unsub etc.): http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/subscribers.htm Elecraft web page: http://www.elecraft.com
RE: [Elecraft] K3 Preliminary Specifications
I see the CW rise/fall time and the adjustable VOX and break-in delays, but the delay spec I'm looking for is the delay between now and when my card gets charged; then the delay between the card being charged and the truck arrives in my driveway. :-) Hangin' in there, Craig NZ0R ___ Elecraft mailing list Post to: Elecraft@mailman.qth.net You must be a subscriber to post to the list. Subscriber Info (Addr. Change, sub, unsub etc.): http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/subscribers.htm Elecraft web page: http://www.elecraft.com
RE: [Elecraft] Start the countdown!
> According to my calender next week is the last week of July! What calendar is that? Next week is the next-to-last week in July. The last week starts on the 29th. You apparently don't work for a software company. :-) At a previous company we had two products that we promised to ship by end of December 1995. When we didn't ship the first until the third of January, I issued calendars to the group labelled "Decemberary 1995++". Our product shipped on Decemberary 34, 1995++, which I thought was close enough. The other product shipped on the 62nd so we counted that one as having met its goals, too. Craig NZ0R ___ Elecraft mailing list Post to: Elecraft@mailman.qth.net You must be a subscriber to post to the list. Subscriber Info (Addr. Change, sub, unsub etc.): http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/subscribers.htm Elecraft web page: http://www.elecraft.com
RE: [Elecraft] bad choice: Anderson PowePole connectors
> The Power Pole connectors on the K3 are a bad choice for this > application why? : I've never understood the fascination with these connectors. They seem rather flakey and cheap to me. You don't always get a solid connection. They move around too much especially with a heavy-conductor wire hanging off them. If you're going to depend on a friction fit, then give the thing some friction. Craig NZ0R ___ Elecraft mailing list Post to: Elecraft@mailman.qth.net You must be a subscriber to post to the list. Subscriber Info (Addr. Change, sub, unsub etc.): http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/subscribers.htm Elecraft web page: http://www.elecraft.com
RE: [Elecraft] K3 Delivery Dates
I'm looking at the dates again and hadn't realized #2 and #3 were Sept and Oct. I was thinking #3 was "Sept/Oct". So I was going by my memory of what was being told to people in Dayton (which I thought was "Sept or Oct") so that could've been #2. Sorry about that. Craig NZ0R -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Augie Hansen Sent: Thursday, July 12, 2007 10:19 PM Cc: elecraft@mailman.qth.net Subject: Re: [Elecraft] K3 Delivery Dates Craig Rairdin wrote: > If you ordered at or after Dayton you're in the third run. That was almost > two months ago, so that sounds like when you ordered. > Are you basing this statement on hard evidence, or is it perhaps speculation? I ask because I ordered on line and received a confirmation via email on June 7th. At that time and for about another week or so, the web site was indicating orders were still being taken for the second production run. Then the notice was posted that the second run was sold out. Obviously I'm hoping for the best (and reluctantly preparing for the worst). Gus Hansen KB0YH ___ Elecraft mailing list Post to: Elecraft@mailman.qth.net You must be a subscriber to post to the list. Subscriber Info (Addr. Change, sub, unsub etc.): http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/subscribers.htm Elecraft web page: http://www.elecraft.com ___ Elecraft mailing list Post to: Elecraft@mailman.qth.net You must be a subscriber to post to the list. Subscriber Info (Addr. Change, sub, unsub etc.): http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/subscribers.htm Elecraft web page: http://www.elecraft.com
RE: [Elecraft] K3 Delivery Dates
If you ordered at or after Dayton you're in the third run. That was almost two months ago, so that sounds like when you ordered. Craig NZ0R First Production Run :-) -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Thursday, July 12, 2007 7:17 PM To: elecraft@mailman.qth.net Subject: [Elecraft] K3 Delivery Dates Hi All, Sorry for the bandwidth, but does anyone know if there is a way you can check to see which Production Run of the K3 you are in. I've just noticed that current orders are now scheduled for Oct-Nov, but I can't remember what it was when I placed my order last month ?? I know I could probably e-mail Lisa, but I'm sure the guys at Elecraft have enough on their plates at the moment. Does anyone know the cut-off date between the Sept and Oct production runs, and I could check my receipt ?? Cheers David, VK2NU ___ Elecraft mailing list Post to: Elecraft@mailman.qth.net You must be a subscriber to post to the list. Subscriber Info (Addr. Change, sub, unsub etc.): http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/subscribers.htm Elecraft web page: http://www.elecraft.com ___ Elecraft mailing list Post to: Elecraft@mailman.qth.net You must be a subscriber to post to the list. Subscriber Info (Addr. Change, sub, unsub etc.): http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/subscribers.htm Elecraft web page: http://www.elecraft.com
RE: [Elecraft] Re: KX1 build photos
> I was hoping to see a close-up of C56, which has no solder pads > and is instead soldered directly to pins 2 and 3 of K1. I have page-by-page build photos of my KX1 at: http://www.craigr.com/coppermine/index.php?cat=23 Select the "Elecraft KX1" album, select the second page of photos, and you'll see "Page 34 (C56 Detail)". It's a little dark but you can see what I did. IIRC I tacked one pin down by heating the existing solder then worked on the other pin. Once I was happy with that I went back to the first pin and made sure it was adequately soldered. I also have page-by-page build photos of my K2: http://www.craigr.com/coppermine/thumbnails.php?album=32 And KPA-100 http://www.craigr.com/coppermine/thumbnails.php?album=34 And while we're at it, K3 photos: http://www.craigr.com/coppermine/thumbnails.php?album=63 Craig NZ0R KX1 #1499 K1 #1966 K2/100 #4941 ___ Elecraft mailing list Post to: Elecraft@mailman.qth.net You must be a subscriber to post to the list. Subscriber Info (Addr. Change, sub, unsub etc.): http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/subscribers.htm Elecraft web page: http://www.elecraft.com
RE: [Elecraft] RE: "We are not talking about a small amount ofmoneyhere"
>> To quote one of G4AON's countrymen, "Methinks thou doth >> protest too much."...and you might also want to make sure >> your ISP or SPAM filter is not blocking elecraft.com. >This mailing list's spam filter has blocked 3 attempts by me to reply >to this thread. I think spam filters are more likely to be blame for >the lack of communication being complained of than any failings at >Elecraft. LOL. This is the kind of blind, pie-in-the-sky loyalty and defensiveness I'm talking about. :-) I love Elecraft as much as anyone but they're not infallible and blameless. Like I said before, my last order was really messed up, and my last email to Lisa regarding my K3 order has gone completely unanswered. That's fine; I know they're busy. But I don't blame the Internet, George Bush, or global warming for Elecraft's occassional problems. Instead I'm able to believe they might have messed up, because they're people. :-) Or it could be Hillary Clinton's fault. :-) Yeah, that's probably it. Eric's recent post straightens out all the K3 questions. Your credit card statement is your deposit receipt. You'll be contacted about a week ahead of shipping to verify the details. You'll get a final invoice with your K3. Pretty simple. Craig NZ0R KX1 #1499 K1 #1966 K2/100 #4941 ___ Elecraft mailing list Post to: Elecraft@mailman.qth.net You must be a subscriber to post to the list. Subscriber Info (Addr. Change, sub, unsub etc.): http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/subscribers.htm Elecraft web page: http://www.elecraft.com
RE: [Elecraft] BNC To Twin Lug Adapter
I'm not sure how long the ladder line was, but I'd guess about 100'. The antenna was about 40' on the ends and 45' in the center. Craig NZ0R -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Sunday, July 08, 2007 12:05 PM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]; [EMAIL PROTECTED] Cc: elecraft@mailman.qth.net Subject: Re: [Elecraft] BNC To Twin Lug Adapter In a message dated 7/8/07 9:28:59 AM Eastern Daylight Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: 130' dipole fed with 300-ohm ladder line running to my KAT100 through a 4:1 balun How many feet of ladder line, and how high up was the dipole? 73 de Jim, N2EY ** See what's free at http://www.aol.com. ___ Elecraft mailing list Post to: Elecraft@mailman.qth.net You must be a subscriber to post to the list. Subscriber Info (Addr. Change, sub, unsub etc.): http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/subscribers.htm Elecraft web page: http://www.elecraft.com
RE: [Elecraft] RE: "We are not talking about a small amount of moneyhere"
I got a receipt. Maybe they lost your order. You should contact them directly. You're right that there's a loyalty among Elecraft customers here that sometimes defies logic. They completely screwed up my last order even after multiple emails and phone calls to get it right. It's fine now. They're not perfect, and I don't see the problem with allowing people to have that opinion. But they do a good job overall. Craig NZ0R -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Phil Wright Sent: Sunday, July 08, 2007 8:22 AM To: elecraft@mailman.qth.net Subject: [Elecraft] RE: "We are not talking about a small amount of moneyhere" Excuse me? You buy a product from a company, pay 50% up front to help the company out, and you get no acknowledgement from the company that a) your order has been received or b) a receipt for your advanced payment. And you excuse this on account they are busy? I'm sorry, but I find that unacceptable. American companies pride themselves on their great service - this isn't even common courtesy let alone good customer service. How long does it take to send a non-automated email? Someone at Elecraft is keeping a track of all the orders (otherwise the'd have no idea of demand) and an email takes maybe 30 seconds extra per order. Even if they have 10,000 orders (which I doubt very much), that is 83 hours of work, spread over the last 2 months equates to about a quarter of a person. Of course, automate the process and you don't even need a quarter of a person. And of course, telling a customer that you have his order and his money saves you having to answer the phone when the same customer calls in to complain - except that doesn't take 30 seconds! Or is it that we Brits now have a better sense of what makes for good service than our American friends? Phil, G8JQH -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Don Wilhelm Sent: 08 July 2007 14:02 To: elecraft@mailman.qth.net Subject: Re: "We are not talking about a small amount of money here" (was [Elecraft] Cut off date for K3 options?) Dave and all, I can add emphasis to what Gary has said, and I experience it in only a small way - responding to emails requesting status of kits I have here for repair/upgrade/build etc., does take considerable time and energy - multiply that by a very large factor (your guess for the number of K3 orders) and you have a lot of time just to respond to order status/confirmation requests. While all of us who have ordered K3s have the same questions, I do not have either written or email confirmation of my order. I do know that everyone at Elecraft is very busy communicating with the beta testers, getting all the production stuff in order, along with their normal activities, and they are putting in a lot of overtime hours to get it done. Have patience, try not to bother them any more than necessary, and in a couple weeks the flood will be cleared and things will restore to something more normal. 73, Don W3FPR Gary Hvizdak wrote: > Recently Dave (G4AON) wrote > > "... having paid a 50% deposit it wouldn't be expecting too much to have a > receipt for the payment, showing what is on order and the balance to be > paid. We are not talking about a small amount of money here." > > -- > > Hi Dave, > > Having produced some inexpensive accessories for the K2 that are easily > 10,000 times simpler than the K3, I might still be able to relate to what > Elecraft has been going through. FYI, from before Ken (WB2ART) and I began > accepting payments for our original K2 Option Bypass Header kit in 2005, > until all orders were shipped, we spent more time replying to customer > emails than we did working to get our humble product out the door! ___ Elecraft mailing list Post to: Elecraft@mailman.qth.net You must be a subscriber to post to the list. Subscriber Info (Addr. Change, sub, unsub etc.): http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/subscribers.htm Elecraft web page: http://www.elecraft.com ___ Elecraft mailing list Post to: Elecraft@mailman.qth.net You must be a subscriber to post to the list. Subscriber Info (Addr. Change, sub, unsub etc.): http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/subscribers.htm Elecraft web page: http://www.elecraft.com ___ Elecraft mailing list Post to: Elecraft@mailman.qth.net You must be a subscriber to post to the list. Subscriber Info (Addr. Change, sub, unsub etc.): http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/subscribers.htm Elecraft web page: http://www.elecraft.com
RE: [Elecraft] BNC To Twin Lug Adapter
For Field Day this year we had a 130' dipole fed with 300-ohm ladder line running to my KAT100 through a 4:1 balun and it worked great on all bands. We talked about feeding one side of the antenna to the K2 and attempting to load it up on 160m but never got around to it. We would've needed some kind of RF ground which we didn't have set up. Craig NZ0R -Original Message- From: Don Wilhelm [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Sunday, July 08, 2007 8:15 AM To: Craig Rairdin Cc: elecraft@mailman.qth.net Subject: Re: [Elecraft] BNC To Twin Lug Adapter Craig, While you can feed ladder line directly to anything (including a KX1), the enclosure and whatever is connected to it can create unbalance on the ladder line. The result is that the antenna tuning will change depending on how the KX1 couples to ground - the antenna will behave differently with the KX1 running on batteries compared to running from a power supply. It is wise to use a 1:1 current balun to decouple the ladder line from those 'ground effects'. Use a 4:1 current balun if it provides a better match to the antenna. An Elecraft BL2 is ideal, it has a switch so you can change from 1:1 to 4:1 and use whichever matches better. 73, Don W3FPR Craig Rairdin wrote: > Can you feed 300 ohm ladder line right into a KX1? Will it tune it? I guess > I should try it... I always add a balun. > > Craig > NZ0R > KX1 #1499 > K1 #1966 > K2/100 #4941 > > -Original Message- > From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of [EMAIL PROTECTED] > Sent: Saturday, July 07, 2007 10:06 PM > To: elecraft@mailman.qth.net > Subject: [Elecraft] BNC To Twin Lug Adapter > > > Does anyone know a source where I can obtain one of those BNC to twin lug > adapters for the KX1? I am thinking of puuting up a G5RV fed with 300 ohm > ladder line. > > Thanks and very 73/72! > > Chris NV9Z > Hagerstown IN > www.eciqrp.org > > > > > ** See what's free at > http://www.aol.com. > ___ > Elecraft mailing list > Post to: Elecraft@mailman.qth.net > You must be a subscriber to post to the list. > Subscriber Info (Addr. Change, sub, unsub etc.): > http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft > > Help: http://mailman.qth.net/subscribers.htm > Elecraft web page: http://www.elecraft.com > > ___ > Elecraft mailing list > Post to: Elecraft@mailman.qth.net > You must be a subscriber to post to the list. > Subscriber Info (Addr. Change, sub, unsub etc.): > http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft > > Help: http://mailman.qth.net/subscribers.htm > Elecraft web page: http://www.elecraft.com > > ___ Elecraft mailing list Post to: Elecraft@mailman.qth.net You must be a subscriber to post to the list. Subscriber Info (Addr. Change, sub, unsub etc.): http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/subscribers.htm Elecraft web page: http://www.elecraft.com
RE: [Elecraft] BNC To Twin Lug Adapter
Can you feed 300 ohm ladder line right into a KX1? Will it tune it? I guess I should try it... I always add a balun. Craig NZ0R KX1 #1499 K1 #1966 K2/100 #4941 -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Saturday, July 07, 2007 10:06 PM To: elecraft@mailman.qth.net Subject: [Elecraft] BNC To Twin Lug Adapter Does anyone know a source where I can obtain one of those BNC to twin lug adapters for the KX1? I am thinking of puuting up a G5RV fed with 300 ohm ladder line. Thanks and very 73/72! Chris NV9Z Hagerstown IN www.eciqrp.org ** See what's free at http://www.aol.com. ___ Elecraft mailing list Post to: Elecraft@mailman.qth.net You must be a subscriber to post to the list. Subscriber Info (Addr. Change, sub, unsub etc.): http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/subscribers.htm Elecraft web page: http://www.elecraft.com ___ Elecraft mailing list Post to: Elecraft@mailman.qth.net You must be a subscriber to post to the list. Subscriber Info (Addr. Change, sub, unsub etc.): http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/subscribers.htm Elecraft web page: http://www.elecraft.com
RE: [Elecraft] K2 or K3
> Therefore, by the time I buy the kits from Elecraft and pay > for assembly, I am looking at $1270 to $1370 for a basic K2 > with what I need for data ops. For $1399, I can get a K3/10 > with the same features plus many extras and better > performance. > Maybe I should also look for a used K2 but I am real picky > on build quality. Keep an eye on eBay. There has been a regular stream of K2's up there. I haven't been watching the selling prices closely, but you can expect to pick one up for at least 20% less than the kit price and perhaps as much as 30% off. You may end up with an accessory or two that you don't want, but you'll save a lot of money vs. buying a kit and having it built. The K2 isn't that hard to build. If it's been working for the previous owner, it will work for you. You can ask for close-up pictures if you want. The K2 is a lot different than say the old Heathkit days. With all the point-to-point wiring and stacks of components soldered to terminals, the skill of the builder could dramatically affect appearance and performance. And I don't think I ever built a Heathkit that worked right when I got done. They required a lot of debugging after they were complete. With the Elecraft kits you just build them and they work (with a few exceptions as some here will testify). But the point is I don't think there is as much variability in quality as you might find with other kits and homebrew projects. Of course, they're designed that way. :-) Craig NZ0R KX1 #1499 K1 #1966 K2/100 #4941 -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of John Tobias Croteau Sent: Saturday, June 30, 2007 7:23 PM To: elecraft@mailman.qth.net Subject: [Elecraft] K2 or K3 As some of you know, I've been looking at putting together a K2 station for portable RTTY/PSK31 operation. However, as I am looking at the cost differences, I am now wondering if I might better off with a K3. Here is my dilemma: I am disabled and unable to solder because the medications I am on make my hands shake like crazy. The person who normally builds kits for me is unable to take on this task due to family and work commitments. I have contacted three of the builders in the Elecraft community and have received quotes ranging from $350 to $450 to do what I want. Therefore, by the time I buy the kits from Elecraft and pay for assembly, I am looking at $1270 to $1370 for a basic K2 with what I need for data ops.For $1399, I can get a K3/10 with the same features plus many extras and better performance. Maybe I should also look for a used K2 but I am real picky on build quality. Any advice guys? Thanks - JT ___ Elecraft mailing list Post to: Elecraft@mailman.qth.net You must be a subscriber to post to the list. Subscriber Info (Addr. Change, sub, unsub etc.): http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/subscribers.htm Elecraft web page: http://www.elecraft.com ___ Elecraft mailing list Post to: Elecraft@mailman.qth.net You must be a subscriber to post to the list. Subscriber Info (Addr. Change, sub, unsub etc.): http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/subscribers.htm Elecraft web page: http://www.elecraft.com
[Elecraft] K2 FD report
N0MA used my K2/100 for its CW station this year. We used a 130' dipole up about 50', fed with ladder line to a 4:1 balun then to the KAT100. It loaded up just fine on all bands. The guys on the phone station wanted/needed to run their cool Alpha 1500W amplifier (to make up for a lack of operating skill?) so that cut our points in half and caused some interference when we were operating on the same band. They had a 20m fixation so that helped... we were able to work 15, 40, and 80 without interference. On 20m I turned off the AGC and the pre-amp and that seemed to help. I still had trouble hearing weak signals over the hash from the phone station but any moderately strong signal was OK. That made CQing difficult but S&P was a breeze. Once again the 100hz filter made the bands seem nicely organized and quiet. I was doing a little demo for some guests and pointed out how I could work a station, then move 500 hz up and wait and sure enough there'd be somebody there calling CQ. Then I'd switch off the filter and you'd hear the cacophony going on around you. Back to 100 hz and quietly work the station and move on to the next. I expected my K2 to not be bothered at all by the 1500W phone station located about 300' off the end of (and aligned with) my dipole. I was a little disappointed but we got along with it OK. We won't be at the top of the results, what with our points cut in half and all, but we'll get a bonus for our biodiesel generator that provided steady power and the smell of deep-fried chinese food all weekend. :-) Craig NZ0R K2/100 #4941 ___ Elecraft mailing list Post to: Elecraft@mailman.qth.net You must be a subscriber to post to the list. Subscriber Info (Addr. Change, sub, unsub etc.): http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/subscribers.htm Elecraft web page: http://www.elecraft.com
RE: [Elecraft] OT: Hate the word "ham"
> So Ken hates the word "Ham" when used to describe us, well, hams. > > ME TOO! It fits with the old-fashioned-ness of the hobby. The other embarrassing word we use is "Elmer" to refer to a mentor. In terms of its reputation and usefulness, ham radio seems stuck in the 50's to me. Technology-wise it's pretty up-to-date but for the most part it's a quaint throwback to simpler times. The name "ham" may be odd and embarrassing, but people do know what it means. Craig NZ0R ___ Elecraft mailing list Post to: Elecraft@mailman.qth.net You must be a subscriber to post to the list. Subscriber Info (Addr. Change, sub, unsub etc.): http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/subscribers.htm Elecraft web page: http://www.elecraft.com
RE: [Elecraft] K3 production runs - Any increases planned?
> Just curious, does the purchase of a K3 make one arrogant and patronizing, or > is it a prerequisite? I don't have enough data to draw that conclusion. Have you ordered yours yet? :-) As I thought was obvious, both this post and my previous one were intended to be humorous. :-) I assumed the OP was at least partially tongue-in-cheek as well. Craig (omitted arrogant and patronizing list of Elecraft serial numbers from my sig) ___ Elecraft mailing list Post to: Elecraft@mailman.qth.net You must be a subscriber to post to the list. Subscriber Info (Addr. Change, sub, unsub etc.): http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/subscribers.htm Elecraft web page: http://www.elecraft.com
