[Elecraft] Fw: K3- Line Out Audio
I'd back this request too...For me, it's not a particularly high priority, but would certainly like to see it at some point! 73, Quin G3WRR - Forwarded Message - From: Dennis Egan egan.denni...@gmail.com To: elecraft@mailman.qth.net Sent: Monday, 10 August 2015, 13:34 Subject: [Elecraft] K3- Line Out Audio I'm going to second Peter's request, but let me explain it in a different manner. I'll use the terms Rx audio to mean the audio from the receivers, and the Tx Mon to mean the audio that is being transmitted.; you get a constant audio level output regardless of your AF setting. Currently, the Line Out audio level is adjusted in the Config menu. For recording purposes, IMHO, it works correctly. If you want to record just the receive audio, it is fine. When you want to record the actual contest, though, the receive audio alone isn't enough; you also need the Tx Mon audio. The Tx Mon audio that is mixed into the Line Out audio is varied by the Tx Mon level control on the front panel. If you turn the Mon control fully counterclockwise, you have no Mon audio in your headset and no Mon audio in the recording. Why is this important? As an SO2R operator, I use the Tx Mon audio for two things: make sure I'm not sending gibberish, and as an audio cue that a specific radio is done transmitting. The Mon level is set so that I can barely hear it in the headphone; many SO2R ops use the Mon in just that manner, as does PC2A. If you adjust the Mon gain in that manner, the Tx Mon audio disappears from the recording. In addition, many ops route the mike audio through the soundcard so that they can do on-the-fly recording. Many soundcards introduce enough latency into the process that listening to yourself through the delay is very fatiguing; the easy solution is to turn the Mon level so that you don't hear it. When you do that, the Mon audio disappears from the recording. What we'd like to see is the transmitted audio, be it from cw sidetone or digital signal or ssb audio, to be mixed into the Line Out audio at a level that is not changed when the Mon control is adjusted. The transmitted audio level should be adjusted in step as part of the Line Out Config menu selection. With the new recording needs of CQWW, this should be implemented. Dennis W1UE Copy of PC2A message from several days ago. == Message: 25 Date: Sun, 09 Aug 2015 13:55:23 +0200 From: Peter p...@pi4cc.nl To: elecraft@mailman.qth.net Subject: [Elecraft] K3 fixed TX audio from the monitor Message-ID: 55c73fab.80...@pi4cc.nl Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Hi A long standing wish is to get fixed level audio out from the audio monitor for the K3 Some operators don't like there voice hearing and turn of the audio monitor low or off. Result is a blank or weak TX audio in the recording. See http://mailman.qth.net/pipermail/elecraft/2009-January/102536.html The RX part is done a long time a go but till now no solution for the TX part. With the new rule of audio recording for the upcomming CQWW it pops up again and I like to ask if its possible to add a fixed audio level output for TX From http://www.cqww.com/rules.htm *C. Audio Recordings:* Any single operator entrant (see V.A.1) competing for a top three finish at the (a) World, (b) Continent, or (c) USA levels, must record the transmitted and received audio as heard by the operator for the duration of the contest operation. Are we not al winners in some kind of catagory? :-) Peter PC2A __ Elecraft mailing list Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm Post: mailto:Elecraft@mailman.qth.net This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html Message delivered to q.g.coll...@btinternet.com __ Elecraft mailing list Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm Post: mailto:Elecraft@mailman.qth.net This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html Message delivered to arch...@mail-archive.com
[Elecraft] TX DLY PARAMETER
Something that isn't clear from the K3 manual.does the TX DLY parameter apply to both CW andSSB, or is it CW only? Guidance welcome! 73, Quin G3WRR __ Elecraft mailing list Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm Post: mailto:Elecraft@mailman.qth.net This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html Message delivered to arch...@mail-archive.com
Re: [Elecraft] [K3] Scanning for repeater tones.
Oops - apologies for the spurious posting belowone of the cats took a stroll along the keyboard while I was making my early morning tea :-( 73, Quin G3WRR From: QUENTIN COLLIER q.g.coll...@btinternet.com To: Rick WA6NHC happymooseph...@gmail.com; elecraft@mailman.qth.net elecraft@mailman.qth.net Sent: Wednesday, 11 March 2015, 7:46 Subject: Re: [Elecraft] [K3] Scanning for repeater tones. 54 From: Rick WA6NHC happymooseph...@gmail.com To: elecraft@mailman.qth.net Sent: Wednesday, 11 March 2015, 6:39 Subject: Re: [Elecraft] [K3] Scanning for repeater tones. Hi Ken, It may be that way in Montana (one of my favorite places in the summer) but it's not that way in CA. Output tones on a repeater are common here because of the repeater density (simple proximity, co-channel or by distance) and because summer ducting is common. It's a poor mans noise filter. Many of our 'communities' are larger than Billings or Helena (together) and the cities are obscenities. The RF noise floor can be rough. Using output tones on a repeater makes a huge difference for users. Even where I live, in suburbia, the local club uses an output tone on all of our repeaters (6, 2, 220, 440 and 900) and there is no other 2M channel user for 200 miles, rare here. I'd bet that most metro areas of size (DFW, NYC) also use output tones on ham repeaters. It's a simple means to lower user irritation from other radio systems. We're starting to see more DPL used as well. No, to the original poster, the K3 does not listen for tones. I'm sure it could be added, but frankly I'd rather the team works on other things. Use of tones on 10/6M (stock K3 feature) repeaters is common here and the percentage of folks using 2M transverters for repeaters is a small percentage of the whole. There isn't much demand or return on engineering time to change the K3 to decode. I use a commercial radio on 6M repeaters (except when remoting from my station while traveling) and a dual band radio for 2M/440. It's simpler in the long run and they have the decode features, plus I can listen to the local DX repeater without tying up the K Line. ;o) 73, Rick wa6nhc __ Elecraft mailing list Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm Post: mailto:Elecraft@mailman.qth.net This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html Message delivered to q.g.coll...@btinternet.com __ Elecraft mailing list Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm Post: mailto:Elecraft@mailman.qth.net This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html Message delivered to arch...@mail-archive.com
Re: [Elecraft] MFJ 434B Connections
Hi Mark, I have been intending to respond to your posting below for ages but am afraid it's only just got to the top of the stack - sorry! Although I am not a particularly frequent telephony operator, I have used the MFJ 434B with the K3 and it works just fine. Because I use my Heil headset with several different (in Field Days etc) I have had to confront the problem of different vendors using different microphone connectors - and even worse, the same connector with different pinoutsmy solution was to wire the microphone plug to the Yaesu standard - with apologies for using the Y word on the Elecraft list :-) - , set the headers in the MFJ to the Yaesu standard (and also the appropriate header to apply the polarising voltage to the electret microphone insert), and then build individual Yaesu - Elecraft, Yaesu - Icom etc. adapters for rigs that don't use the Yaesu pinouts. I'm afraid I don't know where you can buy pre-made cables, but making up the adapters is straightforward if a bit fiddly. I don't know if that will help in your particular situation (I suspect perhaps not), but on the principle that any info might come in useful I thought I'd chip in. 73, Quin G3WRR From: pastor...@verizon.net pastor...@verizon.net To: elecraft@mailman.qth.net Sent: Wednesday, 25 February 2015, 4:05 Subject: [Elecraft] MFJ 434B Connections Hi, this is Mark Griffin, KB3Z. Has anyone connected a MFJ 434B Voice Keyer to the K3? I assume that I would connect my Heil HM-12 microphone to the external microphone jack on the front of the unit. The man from MFJ said I would have to set up the jumpers in the unit for a Kenwood. But for some oddball reason they use a modular cable plug to connect the 434B to my K3. I realize I would have to use the MIC Connector on the back of my K3 and would have to make the necessary change with the K3 so it knows that I am using the MIC connector in the back. But where do I find one of these Modular cables to connect the 434B to the K3. Any help or advice would be very much appreciated. Mark Griffin KB3Z __ Elecraft mailing list Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm Post: mailto:Elecraft@mailman.qth.net This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html Message delivered to q.g.coll...@btinternet.com __ Elecraft mailing list Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm Post: mailto:Elecraft@mailman.qth.net This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html Message delivered to arch...@mail-archive.com
Re: [Elecraft] Split operation - display of Transmit frequency on keydown
And in order to make the user interface properly user friendly, we could have a CONFIG item to set the shock voltage so that the operator suffers unbearable pain rather than death :-) 73, Quin G3WRR From: Mitch Wolfson DJØQN dj...@gmx.net To: Joe Subich, W4TV li...@subich.com; elecraft@mailman.qth.net Sent: Wednesday, 18 February 2015, 11:21 Subject: Re: [Elecraft] Split operation - display of Transmit frequency on keydown Joe, that is a great idea, but it doesn't go far enough. Some users might switch off the test mode on purpose. In this case, the K3 should induce an electric shock. Add some voice recognition software, so that when the user says UP in simplex mode, the K3 self-destructs. ;-) 73, Mitcn DJ0QN Mitch Wolfson DJØQN / K7DX Neubiberger Str. 21, 85640 Putzbrunn Skype: mitchwo - Home:+49 89 32152700 - Mobile:+49 172 8374436 Echolink: 3001 - IRLP: 5378 On 18.02.2015 02:00, Joe Subich, W4TV wrote: Looking for the *absence* of a change when the PTT is pressed or the key is tapped to indicate that one has forgotten to engage split is a bit counter intuitive. The *three* current indicators that split is engaged *before* entering transmit are the logical UI. Perhaps the better solution is to ask the logging software authors to determine when VFO A is tuned to a frequency spotted as split and select TEST MODE if split is not engaged or both VFOs are on the same frequency G! Maybe a lack of output will be sufficient immediate feedback. 73, ... Joe, W4TV On 2015-02-17 7:38 PM, Wayne Burdick wrote: Or, we could replace the *entire* VFO A display with the word SPLIT during key-down. This would be even more obvious, and it wouldn't mess up the VFO B display. VFO B is what you care about during split TX. Wayne __ Elecraft mailing list Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm Post: mailto:Elecraft@mailman.qth.net This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html Message delivered to q.g.coll...@btinternet.com __ Elecraft mailing list Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm Post: mailto:Elecraft@mailman.qth.net This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html Message delivered to arch...@mail-archive.com
Re: [Elecraft] KSYN3A - installation question
I apologise for this being off topic, but this (which my son told me - I blame the parents...) had me doubled up. Schrödinger has had a bad day at the lab, and is driving home somewhat erratically. So a policeman pulls him over and breathalyses him. The policeman says well you're sober, but do you mind if I take a look around the car? Sure says Erwin. A couple of minutes later the officer comes back and says well, the car's OK, but did you know there is a dead cat in the boot? (Perhaps I should say trunk, as this is predominantly a US website...) Well, yes, there is NOW says Schrödinger. One day I will make a useful contribution to this list 73, Quin G3WRR From: Stewart stew...@twinwood.me To: Guy Olinger K2AV k2av@gmail.com; Mike Reublin NF4L n...@comcast.net Cc: Elecraft List Elecraft@mailman.qth.net Sent: Monday, 16 February 2015, 8:21 Subject: Re: [Elecraft] KSYN3A - installation question Cat ! Gave ours to this guy called Schrödinger. Don't know whether it is alive or dead... 73 Stewart G3RXQ On Sun, 15 Feb 2015 20:46:41 -0500, Guy Olinger K2AV wrote: Do I have to get a cat? 73, Guy. On Sun, Feb 15, 2015 at 6:55 PM, Mike Reublin NF4L n...@comcast.net wrote: I tried the cat method. He objected to the ground probe. When my arms heal, I'll try with a clip lead. 73, Mike NF4L On Feb 15, 2015, at 6:04 PM, Walter Underwood wun...@wunderwood.org wrote: With no cat, I would recommend Sleater-Kinney. wunder K6WRU CM87wj http://observer.wunderwood.org/ On Feb 15, 2015, at 2:34 PM, Phil Wheeler w...@socal.rr.com wrote: And those with no cat?:-) On 2/15/15 1:50 PM, Harry Yingst via Elecraft wrote: But what about us old Head bangers? From: Wayne Burdick n...@elecraft.com To: Elecraft Reflector elecraft@mailman.qth.net Sent: Sunday, February 15, 2015 4:29 PM Subject: Re: [Elecraft] KSYN3A - installation question It is quite easy to swap the synthesizer boards without removing the KRX3 module. I did it blindfolded with a long-haired cat on my lap and the latest Tom Petty album blasting away. Wayne N6KR On Feb 14, 2015, at 12:38 PM, Joe Subich, W4TV li...@subich.com wrote: I doubt it ... there is not all that much room between the front bulkhead and the edge of the KRX3 case. In addition, Wayne mentioned the need to reroute some of the cables with may not be possible if the KRX3 is in place. 73, ... Joe, W4TV On 2015-02-14 10:33 AM, Ken K3IU wrote: I believe that you should ne able to install both boards without removing the KRX3 73, Ken K3IU On 2/14/2015 10:03 AM, Dauer, Edward wrote: First question that came to my mind when I saw the announcement was whether the KRX3 had to be removed and reinstalled in order to replace the synths. I found installing the KRX3 exasperating when I assembled the K3 - success came on about the 12th try. My K3 is 100 miles from where I am right now, so I looked at the photos in the K3 assembly manual and those in the new synth instructions, from which it appears that the swap could be done without removing the KRX3. Could we confirm whether RR is required? Message below says it is. If the sub does have to be RR¹d, anyone have suggestions about how to reinstall it without the major fuss I experienced? Ted, KN1CBR -- Date: Fri, 13 Feb 2015 13:21:20 -0800 From: Richard Thorpe kisso...@gmail.com To: Elecraft List elecraft@mailman.qth.net Subject: [Elecraft] More KSYN3A Message-ID: 92f46418-caab-45a6-bfcd-f87860378...@gmail.com Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8 I talked to Elecraft and you must remove the second receiver not just unplug it and remove its ?old? synth board. . . . R Thorpe K6CG -- __ Elecraft mailing list Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm Post: mailto:Elecraft@mailman.qth.net This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html Message delivered to kenk...@cox.net __ Elecraft mailing list Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm Post: mailto:Elecraft@mailman.qth.net This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html Message delivered to li...@subich.com __ Elecraft mailing list Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm Post: mailto:Elecraft@mailman.qth.net This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html Message delivered to n...@elecraft.com
Re: [Elecraft] Panadapter
I was going to ask the same question as David about whether you were interested in the P3 or the PX3! And assuming you were talking about the P3, my experience is the same as hisa really good investment. As a for instance (although this hasn't happened yet as the event isn't until June), in our (CW) Field Day - which has rules very different from the North AmericanField Day - we get double points for QSOs on 160m 10m. I can foresee that the ability to take a quick dive onto those bands and get an at a glance view of whether there is enough activity to justify a band change will be a major boon. 73, Quin G3WRR From: david Moes dm...@nexicom.net To: elecraft@mailman.qth.net Sent: Tuesday, 27 January 2015, 4:12 Subject: Re: [Elecraft] Panadapter not sure if you mean P3 or PX3 I purchased the P3 about a year ago. when I ordered it I was worried I had spent money on something that had marginal purpose, a toy or fancy Gadget. Now that I have had it for a year or so it has become a integral part of my operating. its wonderfull in chasing DX and contests for finding signals especially on quiet bands. is a band open? just watch the water fall for a half a minute and you can see. never mind hunting up and down the band to see what may be there. find the station being worked in a split situation is easy. I can go on and on. For me I feel it was money well spent. I certainly get more use out of it than I had hoped for. David Moes President: Peterborough Amateur Radio Club. dm...@nexicom.net VE3DVY, VE3SD On 1/26/2015 22:57, Mark Tellez wrote: Hello all, I would like to know what people think of the new Panadapter. I am considering adding it to my portable station. I would like to know what people think of its features and the usefulness (and drawbacks) in a portable configuration. Thanks, Mark __ Elecraft mailing list Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm Post: mailto:Elecraft@mailman.qth.net This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html Message delivered to dm...@nexicom.net __ Elecraft mailing list Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm Post: mailto:Elecraft@mailman.qth.net This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html Message delivered to q.g.coll...@btinternet.com __ Elecraft mailing list Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm Post: mailto:Elecraft@mailman.qth.net This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html Message delivered to arch...@mail-archive.com
Re: [Elecraft] K3 13.8 VDC power
aa From: Richard Fjeld rpfj...@embarqmail.com To: elecraft@mailman.qth.net Sent: Tuesday, 23 December 2014, 6:30 Subject: Re: [Elecraft] K3 13.8 VDC power Well, more good information. Maybe I stand corrected. It's been nearly 4 years since I have read the manual, and my memory may have read more into the statements than it should have. I refer to page 13, right hand column, halfway down, entitled POWER. There is a note that reads To ensure correct save of operating parameters, turn the K3 off /before/ turning the power supply off. When I read that, I thought about the short duration power failures we experience. Page 44 touches on updating the nonvolatile memory correctly before shut-down either by the power switch, or in this case a 'PS0;' command via the RS232 interface. As you saw, there was a reply from a contester who had several power outages with multiple K3's without any troubles. That was good to learn of. I thought If I only use the battery for backup to shutdown, there should be a minimum of charging. I have been using a UPS on the AC supply, but I trust a float battery I can test on the DC. I may abandon the whole idea and stay with the UPS. Sometimes rejection is a good thing. Note: As I learn more about this radio, I appreciate the thought that went into it's design. Thanks for the posts, and the bandwidth. Dick, n0ce __ Elecraft mailing list Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm Post: mailto:Elecraft@mailman.qth.net This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html Message delivered to q.g.coll...@btinternet.com __ Elecraft mailing list Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm Post: mailto:Elecraft@mailman.qth.net This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html Message delivered to arch...@mail-archive.com
Re: [Elecraft] K3 13.8 VDC power
Oops - sorry about the previous posting belowmy cat Henry was helping me with my e-mails. Anyway, a belated Happy Christmas and best wishes for 2015 to all readers of this most interesting list. 73, Quin G3WRR From: QUENTIN COLLIER q.g.coll...@btinternet.com To: Richard Fjeld rpfj...@embarqmail.com; elecraft@mailman.qth.net elecraft@mailman.qth.net Sent: Friday, 26 December 2014, 9:07 Subject: Re: [Elecraft] K3 13.8 VDC power aa From: Richard Fjeld rpfj...@embarqmail.com To: elecraft@mailman.qth.net Sent: Tuesday, 23 December 2014, 6:30 Subject: Re: [Elecraft] K3 13.8 VDC power Well, more good information. Maybe I stand corrected. It's been nearly 4 years since I have read the manual, and my memory may have read more into the statements than it should have. I refer to page 13, right hand column, halfway down, entitled POWER. There is a note that reads To ensure correct save of operating parameters, turn the K3 off /before/ turning the power supply off. When I read that, I thought about the short duration power failures we experience. Page 44 touches on updating the nonvolatile memory correctly before shut-down either by the power switch, or in this case a 'PS0;' command via the RS232 interface. As you saw, there was a reply from a contester who had several power outages with multiple K3's without any troubles. That was good to learn of. I thought If I only use the battery for backup to shutdown, there should be a minimum of charging. I have been using a UPS on the AC supply, but I trust a float battery I can test on the DC. I may abandon the whole idea and stay with the UPS. Sometimes rejection is a good thing. Note: As I learn more about this radio, I appreciate the thought that went into it's design. Thanks for the posts, and the bandwidth. Dick, n0ce __ Elecraft mailing list Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm Post: mailto:Elecraft@mailman.qth.net This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html Message delivered to q.g.coll...@btinternet.com __ Elecraft mailing list Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm Post: mailto:Elecraft@mailman.qth.net This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html Message delivered to q.g.coll...@btinternet.com __ Elecraft mailing list Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm Post: mailto:Elecraft@mailman.qth.net This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html Message delivered to arch...@mail-archive.com
