[Elecraft] Macro to Disable Key out
I have two antennas. One uses the K3 internal tuner and one goes through an amplifier and a manual tuner. I have a macro set to select each antenna and set the power level -- 100w for the antenna using the internal tuner and 45w to the antenna running the amp. I would like to add a command to the macro for the antenna using the internal tuner. I would like to disable the key out amp relay. Don't want the K3 keying the amp if it is not the antenna getting power. Since my amp doesn't have a standby position (Ten Tec Hercules II), I would also like to bypass the amp relay when tuning the manual tuner. But, I can't find a command in the Programmer's Reference to disable Key Out. Is there an undocumented command to disable Key Out? 73 de K1ESE John __ Elecraft mailing list Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm Post: mailto:Elecraft@mailman.qth.net This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html
Re: [Elecraft] Macro to Disable Key out
John, I believe KEYOUT ( and KEYOUT-LP) are direct hardware functions and are not under software control. You will have to add a switch in series with the keyout line to keep from keying the amp if there is no standby available on the amp itself. 73, Don W3FPR John Huffman wrote: I have two antennas. One uses the K3 internal tuner and one goes through an amplifier and a manual tuner. I have a macro set to select each antenna and set the power level -- 100w for the antenna using the internal tuner and 45w to the antenna running the amp. I would like to add a command to the macro for the antenna using the internal tuner. I would like to disable the key out amp relay. Don't want the K3 keying the amp if it is not the antenna getting power. Since my amp doesn't have a standby position (Ten Tec Hercules II), I would also like to bypass the amp relay when tuning the manual tuner. But, I can't find a command in the Programmer's Reference to disable Key Out. Is there an undocumented command to disable Key Out? 73 de K1ESE John __ Elecraft mailing list Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm Post: mailto:Elecraft@mailman.qth.net This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html
Re: [Elecraft] Macro to Disable Key out
John Huffman wrote: I would like to add a command to the macro for the antenna using the internal tuner. I would like to disable the key out amp relay. Don't want the K3 keying the amp if it is not the antenna getting power. Since my amp doesn't have a standby position (Ten Tec Hercules II), I would also like to bypass the amp relay when tuning the manual tuner. But, I can't find a command in the Programmer's Reference to disable Key Out. Is there an undocumented command to disable Key Out? I also wanted to do this, but apparently it's not possible. Another way to do it would be a command to activate the DIGOUT1 line on the ACC connector, which could operate an external relay. Or change the state of the KRC2 ACC output (if you have a KRC2, as I do) by activating the KRC2 menu item. Unfortunately, either of these would be 'sticky' -- once activated it would stay activated until another command turns it off. I want something which will default to 'amp off' when powering up the K3. -- 73, Vic, K2VCO Fresno CA http://www.qsl.net/k2vco __ Elecraft mailing list Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm Post: mailto:Elecraft@mailman.qth.net This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html
Re: [Elecraft] Macro to Disable Key out
On Mon, 09 Nov 2009 08:47:45 -0800, Vic K2VCO v...@rakefet.com wrote: John Huffman wrote: I would like to add a command to the macro for the antenna using the internal tuner. I would like to disable the key out amp relay. Don't want the K3 keying the amp if it is not the antenna getting power. Since my amp doesn't have a standby position (Ten Tec Hercules II), I would also like to bypass the amp relay when tuning the manual tuner. But, I can't find a command in the Programmer's Reference to disable Key Out. Is there an undocumented command to disable Key Out? I also wanted to do this, but apparently it's not possible. Another way to do it would be a command to activate the DIGOUT1 line on the ACC connector, which could operate an external relay. Or change the state of the KRC2 ACC output (if you have a KRC2, as I do) by activating the KRC2 menu item. Unfortunately, either of these would be 'sticky' -- once activated it would stay activated until another command turns it off. I want something which will default to 'amp off' when powering up the K3. It amazes me that an amateur radio amplifier manufacturer would offer an amplifier that had no standby switch or setting. I wonder if that amplifier that you mentioned bypasses when the power to the amp is off? Does it use RF sensing to switch the relay(s) or does it use a control line from the rig? Unbelievable! Tom, N5GE n...@n5ge.com K3 #806, K3 #1055, PR6, XV144, XV432, KRC2, W1 and other small kits. 2 W2's on order 1 K144XV on order http://www.n5ge.com http://www.swotrc.net __ Elecraft mailing list Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm Post: mailto:Elecraft@mailman.qth.net This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html
Re: [Elecraft] Macro to Disable Key out
It's a solid state amp...you just turn it off. Why have two off switches? Original message Date: Mon, 09 Nov 2009 16:28:49 -0600 From: Radio Amateur N5GE n...@n5ge.com Subject: Re: [Elecraft] Macro to Disable Key out To: Elecraft List elecraft@mailman.qth.net On Mon, 09 Nov 2009 08:47:45 -0800, Vic K2VCO v...@rakefet.com wrote: John Huffman wrote: I would like to add a command to the macro for the antenna using the internal tuner. I would like to disable the key out amp relay. Don't want the K3 keying the amp if it is not the antenna getting power. Since my amp doesn't have a standby position (Ten Tec Hercules II), I would also like to bypass the amp relay when tuning the manual tuner. But, I can't find a command in the Programmer's Reference to disable Key Out. Is there an undocumented command to disable Key Out? I also wanted to do this, but apparently it's not possible. Another way to do it would be a command to activate the DIGOUT1 line on the ACC connector, which could operate an external relay. Or change the state of the KRC2 ACC output (if you have a KRC2, as I do) by activating the KRC2 menu item. Unfortunately, either of these would be 'sticky' -- once activated it would stay activated until another command turns it off. I want something which will default to 'amp off' when powering up the K3. It amazes me that an amateur radio amplifier manufacturer would offer an amplifier that had no standby switch or setting. I wonder if that amplifier that you mentioned bypasses when the power to the amp is off? Does it use RF sensing to switch the relay(s) or does it use a control line from the rig? Unbelievable! Tom, N5GE n...@n5ge.com K3 #806, K3 #1055, PR6, XV144, XV432, KRC2, W1 and other small kits. 2 W2's on order 1 K144XV on order __ Elecraft mailing list Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm Post: mailto:Elecraft@mailman.qth.net This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html
Re: [Elecraft] Macro to Disable Key out
I forgot to say yes it is bypassed when off. Also I believe if you are using the vox relay input to key the amp, switching the front panel switch from to QSK keying instead of RELAY keying will also disable the amp keying. Chuck, KE9UW Original message Date: Mon, 09 Nov 2009 16:28:49 -0600 From: Radio Amateur N5GE n...@n5ge.com Subject: Re: [Elecraft] Macro to Disable Key out To: Elecraft List elecraft@mailman.qth.net On Mon, 09 Nov 2009 08:47:45 -0800, Vic K2VCO v...@rakefet.com wrote: John Huffman wrote: I would like to add a command to the macro for the antenna using the internal tuner. I would like to disable the key out amp relay. Don't want the K3 keying the amp if it is not the antenna getting power. Since my amp doesn't have a standby position (Ten Tec Hercules II), I would also like to bypass the amp relay when tuning the manual tuner. But, I can't find a command in the Programmer's Reference to disable Key Out. Is there an undocumented command to disable Key Out? I also wanted to do this, but apparently it's not possible. Another way to do it would be a command to activate the DIGOUT1 line on the ACC connector, which could operate an external relay. Or change the state of the KRC2 ACC output (if you have a KRC2, as I do) by activating the KRC2 menu item. Unfortunately, either of these would be 'sticky' -- once activated it would stay activated until another command turns it off. I want something which will default to 'amp off' when powering up the K3. It amazes me that an amateur radio amplifier manufacturer would offer an amplifier that had no standby switch or setting. I wonder if that amplifier that you mentioned bypasses when the power to the amp is off? Does it use RF sensing to switch the relay(s) or does it use a control line from the rig? Unbelievable! Tom, N5GE n...@n5ge.com K3 #806, K3 #1055, PR6, XV144, XV432, KRC2, W1 and other small kits. 2 W2's on order 1 K144XV on order http://www.n5ge.com http://www.swotrc.net __ Elecraft mailing list Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm Post: mailto:Elecraft@mailman.qth.net This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html
Re: [Elecraft] Macro to Disable Key out
Is the amp a solid state amp? My ALS500 has an on/off and that is it but WHY would anyone need or want a standby switch on a solid state amp? It is off and draws no current (probably a few mils) when RF is not present at the input. I never turn mine off even when I turn off everything else. 73, de Jim KG0KP - Original Message - From: Radio Amateur N5GE n...@n5ge.com To: Elecraft List elecraft@mailman.qth.net Sent: Monday, November 09, 2009 4:28 PM Subject: Re: [Elecraft] Macro to Disable Key out On Mon, 09 Nov 2009 08:47:45 -0800, Vic K2VCO v...@rakefet.com wrote: John Huffman wrote: I would like to add a command to the macro for the antenna using the internal tuner. I would like to disable the key out amp relay. Don't want the K3 keying the amp if it is not the antenna getting power. Since my amp doesn't have a standby position (Ten Tec Hercules II), I would also like to bypass the amp relay when tuning the manual tuner. But, I can't find a command in the Programmer's Reference to disable Key Out. Is there an undocumented command to disable Key Out? I also wanted to do this, but apparently it's not possible. Another way to do it would be a command to activate the DIGOUT1 line on the ACC connector, which could operate an external relay. Or change the state of the KRC2 ACC output (if you have a KRC2, as I do) by activating the KRC2 menu item. Unfortunately, either of these would be 'sticky' -- once activated it would stay activated until another command turns it off. I want something which will default to 'amp off' when powering up the K3. It amazes me that an amateur radio amplifier manufacturer would offer an amplifier that had no standby switch or setting. I wonder if that amplifier that you mentioned bypasses when the power to the amp is off? Does it use RF sensing to switch the relay(s) or does it use a control line from the rig? Unbelievable! Tom, N5GE n...@n5ge.com K3 #806, K3 #1055, PR6, XV144, XV432, KRC2, W1 and other small kits. 2 W2's on order 1 K144XV on order http://www.n5ge.com http://www.swotrc.net __ Elecraft mailing list Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm Post: mailto:Elecraft@mailman.qth.net This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html __ Elecraft mailing list Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm Post: mailto:Elecraft@mailman.qth.net This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html
Re: [Elecraft] Macro to Disable Key out
Jim Miller KG0KP wrote: Is the amp a solid state amp? My ALS500 has an on/off and that is it but WHY would anyone need or want a standby switch on a solid state amp? It is off and draws no current (probably a few mils) when RF is not present at the input. I never turn mine off even when I turn off everything else. This has gone far from the original question! I am not sure exactly what John wanted, but what I want to do is make a macro that will a) Reduce power to about 65 watts b) Enable my external (tube) amplifier And I want another macro to do the reverse. Why bother? Yes, as one poster commented, my amplifier has a standby switch. But if I only have to press one button on the K3 to reduce power and enable the amplifier, I will not be likely to accidentally enable it when the K3 is set for 110 watts. I have done this more than once. Did you know that you can get about 1100 watts from a single 3-500Z if you drive it with 110 watts? Yes, you can... but for how long? -- 73, Vic, K2VCO Fresno CA http://www.qsl.net/k2vco __ Elecraft mailing list Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm Post: mailto:Elecraft@mailman.qth.net This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html
[Elecraft] Macro to Disable Key out
Gee, what happened to a radio, feedline, antenna, key and mic? Glad I don't have a PC thingy, interface for this and that, amplifier to fry everything (might warm my dinner up though) and a bunch of other stuff that is simply NOT needed if all you want to do is have a QSO with another station. KISS works for me, the only time I have Operator Finger is when I try to do the clever stuff and to prevent this I look at the radio and check before action is taken. Oh well, it works for me and I hope everyone else gets to that point soon. 73's I have to go SPEAK on my K3 as someone just called...it works Gary Sent via BlackBerry® from Telstra __ Elecraft mailing list Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm Post: mailto:Elecraft@mailman.qth.net This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html
