Re: [Elecraft] Are you satisfied with your K3?

2012-12-07 Thread Ron D'Eau Claire
For pure nostalga, OT's and those wondering what signals sounded like in the
50's might really enjoy this video:

http://youtu.be/aAk7gRdwpGs

I'd forgotten the delight of watching the blinking gas in an over-worked 807
final in a CW xmtr.

I don't know that I'd say it's more fun now, but it sure is different. 

73, Ron AC7AC


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Re: [Elecraft] Are you satisfied with your K3?

2012-12-07 Thread Fred Jensen

On 12/6/2012 7:53 PM, Wayne Burdick wrote:


In my teens, freshly licensed, I had a Heath DX20 and a Hallicrafters
S38D. The highlight of my first few months was working a guy 2000 miles
away on a 60-W-lamp dummy load and 6' of leaky RG58. I later upgraded to
a Heath HW-16 and had a blast.


About a dozen years ago, I inherited an SX-28 in very pristine shape 
from the estate of Woody, W6ANX.  I had one as a teen.  For quite 
awhile, it held down a counter in the shack against gravity outages.  I 
finally decided to enter an NAQP CW 40m using it and my old 40m ARC-5 
still in the basement [Heath HP-23 power supply].  Results were mixed.


I managed to get shocked off the straight key several times [forgot 
about cathode keying], I discovered that operating in a 21st century 
contest with a straight key, pencil, and paper was a lot less fun than I 
had imagined it would be, and, after perhaps two hours, and 3 dozen 
reports of key clicks, I decided I'd adequately punched my nostalgia 
card and reverted to my brand new K3.  I had a great time as a teenager 
with makeshift equipment, but of course I didn't know then what it would 
be like in 2010.  And apparently, aging my ARC-5 in the basement for 55 
years did not mellow the key clicks either.


73,

Fred K6DGW
- Northern California Contest Club
- CU in the 2013 Cal QSO Party 5-6 Oct 2013
- www.cqp.org


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Re: [Elecraft] Are you satisfied with your K3?

2012-12-07 Thread Phil Hystad
I thought everyone knew about 100-watt light bulbs.  Back in my Novice days 
about 50 years ago, it seemed that all of my other Novice friends all used 
100-watt light bulbs as a dummy load for test & tune-up.  And, we got used to 
the idea of hearing each other in the area because we all operated with the 
around the same frequency cut crystals so we often all ended up on the same 
spot on 40 meters.  When I was a Novice, 40 meters was the only band I worked 
since those were the only crystals I had.  And, I am not an old-timer.  An 
old-timer is always someone older than me -- Always!

73, phil, K7PEH



On Dec 7, 2012, at 8:37 AM, Robert G. Strickland  wrote:

> Wayne...
> 
> Another demo of the well known fact that a 50-100w light bulb load with 
> filament aligned with the correct magnetic field declination for the 
> particular QTH will entrain polar field ions and function as a 4-el 
> monobander. People are always forgetting this effect and spending money on 
> big yagis, trying to recapture the light bulb ion effect. Old timers are 
> useful for keeping this type of info available for new hams.
> 
> ...robert
> 
> On 12/7/2012 03:53, Wayne Burdick wrote:
> 
>> In my teens, freshly licensed, I had a Heath DX20 and a Hallicrafters S38D. 
>> The
>> highlight of my first few months was working a guy 2000 miles away on a 
>> 60-W-lamp
>> dummy load and 6' of leaky RG58. I later upgraded to a Heath HW-16 and had a 
>> blast.
>> 
> 
>> 73,
>> Wayne
>> N6KR
>> 
>> 
> 
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Re: [Elecraft] Are you satisfied with your K3?

2012-12-07 Thread Robert G. Strickland

Wayne...

Another demo of the well known fact that a 50-100w light bulb load with filament 
aligned with the correct magnetic field declination for the particular QTH will 
entrain polar field ions and function as a 4-el monobander. People are always 
forgetting this effect and spending money on big yagis, trying to recapture the light 
bulb ion effect. Old timers are useful for keeping this type of info available for 
new hams.


...robert

On 12/7/2012 03:53, Wayne Burdick wrote:


In my teens, freshly licensed, I had a Heath DX20 and a Hallicrafters S38D. The
highlight of my first few months was working a guy 2000 miles away on a 
60-W-lamp
dummy load and 6' of leaky RG58. I later upgraded to a Heath HW-16 and had a 
blast.




73,
Wayne
N6KR




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Re: [Elecraft] Are you satisfied with your K3?

2012-12-06 Thread Wayne Burdick

Robert G. Strickland wrote:

...it'll be all Elecraft here, something I never dreamed would  
happen back in my teens with my Heathkit DX20...


In my teens, freshly licensed, I had a Heath DX20 and a Hallicrafters  
S38D. The highlight of my first few months was working a guy 2000  
miles away on a 60-W-lamp dummy load and 6' of leaky RG58. I later  
upgraded to a Heath HW-16 and had a blast.


My neighbor (who I met because he copied my callsign off his TV  
screen) had a state-of-the-art 1972-era station. What I wouldn't give  
to travel back in time and give him a demo of the K-line :)


73,
Wayne
N6KR
 
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[Elecraft] Are you satisfied with your K3?

2012-12-06 Thread chris Pickett
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Date: Thu, 06 Dec 2012 10:33:46 -0500
From: Tom McCulloch 
To: elecraft@mailman.qth.net
Subject: Re: [Elecraft] OT: IDIOM PRESS
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Before Eric tells us to stop this thread, am I to understand that this 
guy has everyone's money while they are awaiting delivery???

Tom
wb2qdg
k2 1103
On 12/5/2012 8:22 AM, Fred Smith wrote:
> Yes but he has products that no one else has at prices that can't be 
> beat. I usually catch him on skype is the best way Bob's a goo9d guy 
> and "always" treated me fair.
>
> Fred/N0AZZ
>
> -Original Message-
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> [mailto:elecraft-boun...@mailman.qth.net] On Behalf Of Barry
> Sent: Wednesday, December 05, 2012 6:45 AM
> To: elecraft@mailman.qth.net
> Subject: Re: [Elecraft] OT: IDIOM PRESS
>
> Tired direct email, but Nabble giving me a "missing domain" error.  
> Hmm...
>
> Anyway, here's what I tried to send privately:
>
> If you ordered a keyer, consider the Island Keyer II instead.  It has 
> more features, memory, and is a fraction of the price.  More 
> importantly, service is excellent.  I've bought several from him over 
> the years.
>
> I needed some help with a CMOS Superkeyer III about 10 years ago and 
> never got a response to my query.  Will never buy from them again.  
> Pathetic customer service!
>
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Date: Thu, 6 Dec 2012 09:41:01 -0600
From: "Fred Smith" 
To: "'Bayard Coolidge'" ,   "'Elecraft'"

Subject: Re: [Elecraft] Are you satisfied with your K3?
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I know nothing about future plans but I bet there may very well be a
"remote" KAT500 down the road. But this great product( love mine so far)
calls out for that version at some point in timeYou could even do it
right now with a little work on your own and not really that hard if "you
really want it now" like they say on TV.

If memory serves me right I think someone on the reflector is/or has done
one already.

73,
Fred/N0AZZ

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[mailto:elecraft-boun...@mailman.qth.net] On Behalf Of Bayard Coolidge
Sent: Thursday, December 06, 2012 9:21 AM
To: Elecraft
Subject: Re: [Elecraft] Are you satisfied with your K3?

Like many others here, I've been licensed for a long time (close to 45
years), and have had many decent rigs, albeit not necessarily high-end
multi-kilobuck ones. Most recently, I was using an Icom IC-746Pro.

Clearly, the K3 can run circles around the '746Pro in virtually all
respects, and I knew that before I bought my kit late this summer. But,
there is one feature that is "missing" (solely in my opinion) - the
capability to control an external/remote tuner in the same sort of way that
I could control my LDG IT-100 from the '746Pro.

My antenna configuration is a bit weird - I'm on a small south Florida home
lot, with 24kV power lines running parallel to both the back lot line and
one (the east) side lot line, and the XYL wants to maintain "curb appeal". I
installed a 20m quarter wave vertical (~16.5 ft high) near the wooden fence
on the west side and then ran 40ft of wire northward to a tree branch, and
installed some counterpoise wires. Between January and June, I used the
IT-100 at the base of the vertical at the feed point, and controlled it from
the 'Pro using the AH-4 protocol over some 4 conductor wire.?Band changes
were virtually instantaneous, and I was abl

Re: [Elecraft] Are you satisfied with your K3?

2012-12-06 Thread Robert G. Strickland

Nate...

I agree with your observation about the panadapter. I went with the LP Pan option 
[for reasons having nothing to do with the P3], and I can't stop looking at it. I 
think it's a real weapon in a contest, especially in the S&P mode. There's no tuning 
and wonder what's around the next knob twist. Just watch the screen and go to the 
next one. Love it! And, for running, it's easy to pick out a reasonably clear 
frequency immediately without having to search around. For DXing in a pileup, seeing 
where the holes in the wall are is very useful. When the KAT500 arrives, it'll be all 
Elecraft here, something I never dreamed would happen back in my teens with my 
Heathkit DX20 and Hammerlund 100. There are some benefits to growing old .


...robert

On 12/6/2012 01:42, Nate Bargmann wrote:

I will second your motion.

My K3 is a solid performer after a bit over two years of near daily use
including phone and CW along with a smattering of digital modes.  I have
yet to add the sub receiver since adding the P3 a bit over a year ago.
Having the visual element just hasn't gotten old.

This past weekend I operated as one of the Union Pacific Railroad 150th
anniversary special event operation stations.  Most of the afternoon on
20m phone I was using a CM500 headset, which drives the K3 very easily,
and the ALS600 amplifier.  I received many unsolicited reports of good
to excellent audio.  I figure that any combination that makes me sound
good is a winner in my book.  Also, using the K3's VOX is a pleasure,
especially with the noise gate enabled.

With the 2.1 kHz filter in slot 2 once I use the high cut to take out a
group that is 2 kHz below our 75m section nets in the morning, I simply
don't hear them and yet the audio fidelity of our net is still very good
from my speakers.

Perhaps it is my use of the receive equalization to roll off everything
above 3 kHz as much as I can and my use of the RF Gain control that I
have no fatigue at all listening to my K3.  My backside gets tired of
the chair long before anything else!

Would I buy it again?  Absolutely, without hesitation.

73, de Nate, N0NB >>



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Re: [Elecraft] Are you satisfied with your K3?

2012-12-06 Thread David Little



And to elaborate on this theme, it is my setup on QTH up for trade.   It is
equal in price with a new FTDX-5000MP, and I am asking for the value of a
used MP for it.

Separately, I have tried to sell it for what used MPs are going for.

I had tried to sell it for that price previously on QTH, and got a lot of
flack about the price being too high.

Do the math.

Unfortunately, some gear retains resale value better than others.

I traded a FTDX-9000MP for the K3, P3, KPA-500, power supply, Heil Mic, Mic
stand and a Swan 700CX.

I based the trade on the published receive specs.  I had K3 fever, and was
pushing for the best possible receive specs and capabilities.  The KPA-500
would offer me 100 watts extra power, and the Pan Adaptor, while showing
potential for further development, fell a little short in comparison with
the DMU capabilities.

The 9000MP was used nearly exclusively for government spectrum in volunteer
contingency communications support.  Had I asked the correct questions, I
would have known before hand that the MARS/CAP software band limits removal
routine cut out a fair slice of spectral real estate between 7650 KHz and 10
MHz.  

Also, 100 percent of my operation on federal spectrum was in nets authorized
for mixed mode operations; where digital and voice communications were
allowed, and it was expected that the operators were capable of operating
either mode on command, and both modes within minutes (or less) of each
other.

Where the K3 excels in CW and Ham Band Dx, it doesn't match up with the
operability of an IC-718 in my application.  My mistake; no one else's - I
just never thought it possible for the limitations to be present in a rig of
that cost and reputation.

On top of that, the fellow I traded with claimed it to be perfect in every
way, and I had to replace a FET in the low power amplifier to get the power
stability and distorted transmit audio problem corrected.  The amp went back
to Elecraft, after it developed a high reflected power error, even into a
dummy load.  We live and learn.  I had tried to use it with an IC-756 Pro
II, and a LDG AT-1000 pro. The results of that combo was a fused antenna
relay in the 756 pro and all the magic smoke was driven from the AT-1000
Pro.  Fortunately, I was able to isolate the problem in the Icom and replace
the relay.  LDG made the tuner good, with an updated model; sent to me at no
cost.  We all need to be careful in our trades with fellow hams..  I hate to
admit that..

Where the features and operability of the K3 may have been a bit less than I
was expecting, the Elecraft Customer Service was a far more pleasant
experience.  Howard was able to point out the exact failed component over
the phone after a few trouble shooting procedures.  He was patient,
informative, and well versed on the product.  When the replacement FET that
I ordered from Elecraft arrived, and was replaced, a phone call netted more
patient responses from Howard as I set the Bias on all three of the FETs on
the LPA Board.  When I sent the KPA-500 in for repair, the turn around was
extremely quick, and the cost was certainly fair for the work done,.  No
complaints at all about how Elecraft supports their product.

All in all, I wish I hadn't ever let the FTDX-9000MP go, and wish I could
recover enough to get a FTDX-9000D and only lose 200 watts over the deal.  I
am still hopeful I could possibly recover enough to get a used FTDX-5000MP,
(lose 3 micro tune modules, true second receiver, the DMU, TFT screen, and
200 Watts).

If no hope of either of those possibilities, I will know that I at least
tried to recover the value of a used setup when compared with a used setup
of another manufacture, where both carried the same retail price and age.

But, FWIW, it is all on me.  No one forced me to keep trying to build the
best station for my type of operations.  I have done some reconsidering, and
will be moving away somewhat from the contingency communications volunteer
operations, and devote some time to other endeavors.  It is one of those
situations where you really wanted to do the best possible job that your
equipment would allow, and just got too close to the abyss.

I could have done worse, I suppose.  There is still a lot that can be done
with the setup in the environment that it was ultimately designed for.  

The shortcomings were in my expectations, not the equipment.  I maintain a
presence here, as the firmware is evolving, and I have already seen
improvement in the capabilities after less than 2 months of ownership; by
firmware evolution alone.  I only threw away the bath water; I kept the
baby.

David
KD4NUE


-Original Message-
From: elecraft-boun...@mailman.xxx.xxx  On Behalf Of Fred Smith
Sent: Thursday, December 06, 2012 6:48 AM
To:  elecr...@mailman.xxx.xxx
Subject: Re: [Elecraft] Are you satisfied with your K3?


I think it was fair question there are people who sell their K3's and other
Elecraft equipment to buy other rad

Re: [Elecraft] Are you satisfied with your K3?

2012-12-06 Thread David F. Reed

I originally bought a K3 as a backup radio for my IC-7800.

I admit to liking the 7800 a lot; it is an excellent radio; but I liked 
my K3 so much more, especially the diversity reception on different 
antennas on the low bands, that I sold the 7800, bought a second K3, a 
P3 with the SVGA adapter, and am more than pleased with my decision.  I 
have since added a KPA500 and KAT500 to the lineup. I use my IC-PW1 as 
an amplifier for one of the K3.  Now I am addicted and have added a KX3 
for my portable ops, and love it too.


For me, the K3 is hands down the best radio I have ever owned, and I 
have been a ham since 1957, operating home brew, kits of various sorts, 
Collins S-Line and KWM-2a, Drake, and so on.


The only down side for me is that some of my MARS operation is frequency 
limited by the gap in transmit coverage above the top of the 40 M band. 
I suspect this is due to the I.F. and choice of conversion schemes, but 
if that's the price to get the performance I enjoy so much, I accept 
it.  I can always use one of my lesser transceivers for the MARS work 
when I bump into that limitation.


Thanks Elecraft for keeping the dream alive.

73 de Dave, W5SV / NNN0SLA
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Re: [Elecraft] Are you satisfied with your K3?

2012-12-06 Thread k8cxm
I don't think so. Seems that they got out of the amateur radio business some 
time ago. But, I did find this for spare parts from Drake, I suppose:


http://www.scribd.com/doc/42156044/Drake-Partlist

73 ... Jim K8CXM

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Subject: Re: [Elecraft] Are you satisfied with your K3?


Jim,

Drake still offers service?
Just curious.  I have an R-4C/T-4XC, TR-4C and a pair of 2-Bs.

73 and Happy Holidays to you!
de Jim - AD6CW

On 12/6/2012 6:41 AM, k8...@fuse.net wrote:
Easily the best radio I have ever owned, and I've had a few in my 50+ 
years of ham life. My last five have been 2 different TS-450SAT's (great 
radio for it's day), a TS-2000 (misunderstood, but also a fine radio) and 
an Icom IC-756 Pro 3 (very disappointing). Of course, number 5 is my K3. 
I also have an FT-857D as backup and for UHF (pretty good radio). Prior 
to all of these I've had 2 different Drake lines as well as TR3, TR4 in 
it's various reincarnations.


The Drakes will also be fondly remembered. Great gear, and Miamisburg is 
only 30 miles north of here. Easy to drive the Drake radios up for 
service.


But, IMO, the Elecraft K3 is by far, superior to any of the above. It 
will be hard to beat in the future. I do think the K3 will be my last 
radio. Time marches on and me along with it.


73 ... and Happy Holidays...

Jim ... K8CXM



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Re: [Elecraft] Are you satisfied with your K3?

2012-12-06 Thread Lu Romero
In a word:

Yes!

Its everything I looked for and more. And I am very picky.  

It just works. Im am confident opening up my $3000 radio
and/or $2000 amp and work on them because I built them from
a box of parts! And that was fun, too! 

Plus: everything my 7800/7700 and FT5k owning friends with
bigger antennas than mine can hear and work, I can hear and
work at less than half the price.  My wife and kids like
that.  

And finally, it wont collapse my op table like the Icoms
would.  

My chiropractor hates Eric and Wayne, however.  My back is
much better since I dont have to move 80lb radios around.

Lu Romero - W4LT
K3/KRX3/P3/KPA500/K1


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Re: [Elecraft] Are you satisfied with your K3?

2012-12-06 Thread ab2tc
Hi,

This thread is getting rather long and drifting off the original topic, but
I'll risk these comments anyway. My to-be remote (2nd) KAT500 is on a brown
truck somewhere in the Syracuse, NY area "out for delivery" as stated by the
tracking site. I have already proved feasibility of remote controlling my
1st one over 100' of CAT6 cable using an Ethernet serial server by B&B.
Initially I will run a 115V extension cord out to the little plastic house
that has protected an MFJ indoor autotuner for more than 3 years. Eventually
I am hoping to run a low voltage link (maybe 24V) over the speaker wire
that's already in the ground feeding the 12V DC for the MFJ. Low winter
emperature has never had much of an effect on the MFJ and I am hoping the
KAT500 will  tolerate it well, too.

AB2TC - Knut


Fred Smith wrote
> I know nothing about future plans but I bet there may very well be a
> "remote" KAT500 down the road. But this great product( love mine so far)
> calls out for that version at some point in timeYou could even do
> it
> right now with a little work on your own and not really that hard if "you
> really want it now" like they say on TV.
> 
> If memory serves me right I think someone on the reflector is/or has done
> one already.
> 
> 73,
> Fred/N0AZZ
> 
> -Original Message-
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Re: [Elecraft] Are you satisfied with your K3?

2012-12-06 Thread Fred Smith
I know nothing about future plans but I bet there may very well be a
"remote" KAT500 down the road. But this great product( love mine so far)
calls out for that version at some point in timeYou could even do it
right now with a little work on your own and not really that hard if "you
really want it now" like they say on TV.

If memory serves me right I think someone on the reflector is/or has done
one already.

73,
Fred/N0AZZ

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[mailto:elecraft-boun...@mailman.qth.net] On Behalf Of Bayard Coolidge
Sent: Thursday, December 06, 2012 9:21 AM
To: Elecraft
Subject: Re: [Elecraft] Are you satisfied with your K3?

Like many others here, I've been licensed for a long time (close to 45
years), and have had many decent rigs, albeit not necessarily high-end
multi-kilobuck ones. Most recently, I was using an Icom IC-746Pro.

Clearly, the K3 can run circles around the '746Pro in virtually all
respects, and I knew that before I bought my kit late this summer. But,
there is one feature that is "missing" (solely in my opinion) - the
capability to control an external/remote tuner in the same sort of way that
I could control my LDG IT-100 from the '746Pro.

My antenna configuration is a bit weird - I'm on a small south Florida home
lot, with 24kV power lines running parallel to both the back lot line and
one (the east) side lot line, and the XYL wants to maintain "curb appeal".
I installed a 20m quarter wave vertical (~16.5 ft high) near the wooden
fence on the west side and then ran 40ft of wire northward to a tree branch,
and installed some counterpoise wires. Between January and June, I used the
IT-100 at the base of the vertical at the feed point, and controlled it from
the 'Pro using the AH-4 protocol over some 4 conductor wire. Band changes
were virtually instantaneous, and I was able to work a surprising amount of
DX.

With the K3, I'm having to tune the antenna system (antenna plus about 50
feet of RG8X) at the rig in the shack.
I'm a bit squeamish about this - it seems to be working OK, the internal
tuner in the K3 is nice and fast, but I still wonder how efficient it is
compared to Pro/IT-100 configuration. Unfortunately, I'm not in a position
to gather definitive data to support or refute my qualms, but my sense is
that, on some frequencies, there's a really nasty looking impedance
presented at the back of the rig.

I realize that Wayne and the rest of the design crew had to make some
engineering design decisions, but I'm thinking it would be real interesting
if they could concoct a solution entailing replacing the KAT3 with some sort
of small interface/controller, which would then "talk" to a remote version
of the KAT3 tuner itself over a cable, in the same vein as (but not
necessarily using) the AH-4 hardware/signaling protocol. This way, I could
hit the 'ATU TUNE'
button, which would drop the K3/100 to low power, have the tuner do its
thing but at the antenna feed point, and then return the rig to full power
and ready to operate. Yes, I know that they have bigger fish to fry at this
point!

Overall, though, I'm delighted with my K3/100 and am still learning about
all of its features and how best to use them.



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Re: [Elecraft] Are you satisfied with your K3?

2012-12-06 Thread Bayard Coolidge
Like many others here, I've been licensed for a long time (close to 45 years), 
and have had many decent
rigs, albeit not necessarily high-end multi-kilobuck ones. Most recently, I was 
using an Icom IC-746Pro.

Clearly, the K3 can run circles around the '746Pro in virtually all respects, 
and I knew that before I bought
my kit late this summer. But, there is one feature that is "missing" (solely in 
my opinion) - the capability to
control an external/remote tuner in the same sort of way that I could control 
my LDG IT-100 from the '746Pro.

My antenna configuration is a bit weird - I'm on a small south Florida home 
lot, with 24kV power lines running
parallel to both the back lot line and one (the east) side lot line, and the 
XYL wants to maintain "curb appeal".
I installed a 20m quarter wave vertical (~16.5 ft high) near the wooden fence 
on the west side and then ran
40ft of wire northward to a tree branch, and installed some counterpoise wires. 
Between January and June, I
used the IT-100 at the base of the vertical at the feed point, and controlled 
it from the 'Pro using the AH-4 protocol
over some 4 conductor wire. Band changes were virtually instantaneous, and I 
was able to work a surprising amount of DX.

With the K3, I'm having to tune the antenna system (antenna plus about 50 feet 
of RG8X) at the rig in the shack.
I'm a bit squeamish about this - it seems to be working OK, the internal tuner 
in the K3 is nice and fast, but I
still wonder how efficient it is compared to Pro/IT-100 configuration. 
Unfortunately, I'm not in a position to
gather definitive data to support or refute my qualms, but my sense is that, on 
some frequencies, there's a really
nasty looking impedance presented at the back of the rig.

I realize that Wayne and the rest of the design crew had to make some 
engineering design decisions, but I'm thinking
it would be real interesting if they could concoct a solution entailing 
replacing the KAT3 with some sort of small
interface/controller, which would then "talk" to a remote version of the KAT3 
tuner itself over a cable, in the
same vein as (but not necessarily using) the AH-4 hardware/signaling protocol. 
This way, I could hit the 'ATU TUNE'
button, which would drop the K3/100 to low power, have the tuner do its thing 
but at the antenna feed point,
and then return the rig to full power and ready to operate. Yes, I know that 
they have bigger fish to fry at this point!

Overall, though, I'm delighted with my K3/100 and am still learning about all 
of its features and how best to use them.



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Re: [Elecraft] Are you satisfied with your K3?

2012-12-06 Thread k8cxm
Easily the best radio I have ever owned, and I've had a few in my 50+ years 
of ham life. My last five have been 2 different TS-450SAT's (great radio for 
it's day), a TS-2000 (misunderstood, but also a fine radio) and an Icom 
IC-756 Pro 3 (very disappointing). Of course, number 5 is my K3. I also have 
an FT-857D as backup and for UHF (pretty good radio). Prior to all of these 
I've had 2 different Drake lines as well as TR3, TR4 in it's various 
reincarnations.


The Drakes will also be fondly remembered. Great gear, and Miamisburg is 
only 30 miles north of here. Easy to drive the Drake radios up for service.


But, IMO, the Elecraft K3 is by far, superior to any of the above. It will 
be hard to beat in the future. I do think the K3 will be my last radio. Time 
marches on and me along with it.


73 ... and Happy Holidays...

Jim ... K8CXM

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To: 
Subject: Re: [Elecraft] Are you satisfied with your K3?




I AM  As my K3 operates today, it is the best receiver I have ever
used - and the list is over fifty years long. The settings I use were 
posted here several days ago. They are directed towards armchair copy 
use - I doubt if they would do much to enhance a DXer's or contester's 
use.


YES! Best rig I have ever had! The Collins, Drake are loads of fun to 
tinker with these days but for DXing and light contesting ... I have had 
nothing better than the K3. My old FT1000 served me well but the K3, I 
could not be more pleased!


73, Mike WA5POK
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Re: [Elecraft] Are you satisfied with your K3?

2012-12-06 Thread wa5pok



I AM  As my K3 operates today, it is the best receiver I have ever
used - and the list is over fifty years long. The settings I use were 
posted here several days ago. They are directed towards armchair copy 
use - I doubt if they would do much to enhance a DXer's or contester's 
use.


YES! Best rig I have ever had! The Collins, Drake are loads of fun to tinker 
with these days but for DXing and light contesting ... I have had nothing 
better than the K3. My old FT1000 served me well but the K3, I could not be 
more pleased!


73, Mike WA5POK 


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Re: [Elecraft] Are you satisfied with your K3?

2012-12-06 Thread Fred Smith
Dave

A statement that I have been making for a very long time for the same
reasons as you "There is NO perfect radio nor will there Ever Be one" many
have made exception to my statement.

Here at least several times and on the FTDX-5000 reflector I lost count.

Now if people could just bring themselves to realize this is the truth a lot
more could be discussed at times.

Thank You!

Fred/N0AZZ



-Original Message-
From: elecraft-boun...@mailman.qth.net
[mailto:elecraft-boun...@mailman.qth.net] On Behalf Of Dyarnes
Sent: Wednesday, December 05, 2012 10:33 PM
To: elecraft@mailman.qth.net
Subject: Re: [Elecraft] Are you satisfied with your K3?

Hi All,

Obviously most of the responders here are either K3 owners, or K3 potential
owners, who have experienced the quality of this radio.  So, am I totally
satisfied?  No!  Am I reasonably satisfied?  Absolutely!

The K3 is a wonderful radio, and something all of us who own one can be very
proud of having.  However, it is not the "perfect" radio, nor will it ever
be such.  But then, again, I never expected it to be the perfect radio!

I don't care how much money you spend, you will never own the perfect radio.

No radio will ever have the complete (or even nearly complete) compliment of
features and performance that we seek.  If that were possible, then most, or
all, companies would go out of business!  More importantly, it just isn't
achievable.

I don't care how many features you put in the K3, or any other radio,
someone will have an issue--or ten issues!  What Elecraft achieved with the
K3 is a top quality radio at a greatly reduced cost.  That's extremely
significant!

The K3 is NOT the perfect radio for everyone, but it is the perfect radio
for most of us.  There are too many variables, and personal preferences, to
satisfy the entire ham community.  Many of the shortcomings are well
founded, but not necessarily reasonable, for all that many users.  I see all
this Sturm und Drang" about this feature or that feature, and I have to
wonder whether or not it really matters!  Performance wise the K3 is near
the absolute top end.  Ergonomically, it also is near the top.  Nonetheless,
some folks are not happy, and never would be, with something specifically
designed along the line of the K3.  To those folks I simply say "go ahead" 
and buy whatever better meets your wants and desires.  However, you won't
achieve much, if any, improvement in performance.  If you can detect a
significantly better performing radio, then your ear is much better than
mine.

Elecraft has an incredible advantage over other manufacturers because they
have a support team that is second to none.  If you have a problem, they
will fix it--one way or another!!!  Other manufacturers will somewhat
similarly "fix your radio", but not necessarily to the extent of making it
better than it was when you bought it.  Elecraft will "fix it", and it all
probability make it even better!

Some features are lacking in the K3, and some are very significant. 
However, just about everything that could be crammed into the K3 has been. 
If it isn't there now, it very well may be with software upgrades.  No other
manufacturer is so dedicated to keeping their "top line" radio so forward
capable.  Even though other manufacturers have adopted the "firmware
upgrade" capability, nobody is doing more with that capability than
Elecraft!  Pure fact!

If the K3 doesn't meet your expectations, sell it!  I seriously doubt you
will replace it without spending a great deal more.  You won't gain much, if
anything, in performance, but you might get something that "fits you" more
appropriately.  If your problem with the K3 was a specific performance
attribute, then possibly you will solve that, but somewhere there will be
some compromise!

Right now I don't anticipate ever needing more than what the K3 provides me.

That feeling may change, but I would bet large amounts of money that it will
take a very serious "up scaling" cost wise to achieve that.  In the
meantime, so many of the "deficiencies" in the K3 are being addressed by
software upgrades, I can't imagine why I would become less convinced that I
now have the right radio.  Who else is doing so much to achieve perfection
than Elecraft?  They won't get there, but they keep trying

All you need to do, to truly see the value of a K3, is to compare features
and cost.  If another manufacturer gets closer to your wants and needs, by
all means go for it!  Somehow, though, I think you would be part of a very
small minority.  The K3 was too well planned, and too well designed to be
easily outdone.  Yes, something will come along that exceeds it, but not
anytime soon.  When that happens, will it be enough better to justify my
switching?  I doubt it.  Either the cost, or the m

Re: [Elecraft] Are you satisfied with your K3?

2012-12-06 Thread Fred Smith
I think it was fair question there are people who sell their K3's and other
Elecraft equipment to buy other radios. There is one on QTH.COM right now
wanting to trade his K3, P3, KAT500 for an FTDX-5000MP. I do see them for
sale all the time and always check to see the price and call on them if
there is a phone number. One of my first asked questions is why do you want
to get rid of the radio, you might be surprised at some of the answers. I'm
always looking for a deal on any Elecraft gear I don't have or my friends
might want.

Many of those selling are for a single reason they want a full size radio,
where I wanted to downsize and still have a SO2R setup. Elecraft can't be
beat for that, now if they would just bring out a legal limit ++ amp I would
need 2 of those.

I went from several different brands of radios down to 4 now including my
Elecraft as my "Main" HF gear and a Kenwood in the mobile for another.

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[mailto:elecraft-boun...@mailman.qth.net] On Behalf Of Dr. William J.
Schmidt, II
Sent: Wednesday, December 05, 2012 11:33 PM
To: elecraft@mailman.qth.net
Subject: Re: [Elecraft] Are you satisfied with your K3?

Seriously?  Asking this qustion of the "K3 Reflector" is like asking a drug
addict if he likes drugs... or a drunk if he likes booze...   I suppose that
is as obvious as the question is.



Dr. William J. Schmidt - K9HZ / J68HZ/ 8P6HK/ ZF2HZ

Owner - Operator
Big Signal Ranch
Staunton, Illinois

email:  b...@wjschmidt.com


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Re: [Elecraft] Are you satisfied with your K3?

2012-12-05 Thread Dr. William J. Schmidt, II
Seriously?  Asking this qustion of the "K3 Reflector" is like asking a drug
addict if he likes drugs... or a drunk if he likes booze...   I suppose that
is as obvious as the question is.



Dr. William J. Schmidt - K9HZ / J68HZ/ 8P6HK/ ZF2HZ

Owner - Operator
Big Signal Ranch
Staunton, Illinois

email:  b...@wjschmidt.com


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Re: [Elecraft] Are you satisfied with your K3?

2012-12-05 Thread Dyarnes

Hi All,

Obviously most of the responders here are either K3 owners, or K3 potential 
owners, who have experienced the quality of this radio.  So, am I totally 
satisfied?  No!  Am I reasonably satisfied?  Absolutely!


The K3 is a wonderful radio, and something all of us who own one can be very 
proud of having.  However, it is not the "perfect" radio, nor will it ever 
be such.  But then, again, I never expected it to be the perfect radio!


I don't care how much money you spend, you will never own the perfect radio. 
No radio will ever have the complete (or even nearly complete) compliment of 
features and performance that we seek.  If that were possible, then most, or 
all, companies would go out of business!  More importantly, it just isn't 
achievable.


I don't care how many features you put in the K3, or any other radio, 
someone will have an issue--or ten issues!  What Elecraft achieved with the 
K3 is a top quality radio at a greatly reduced cost.  That's extremely 
significant!


The K3 is NOT the perfect radio for everyone, but it is the perfect radio 
for most of us.  There are too many variables, and personal preferences, to 
satisfy the entire ham community.  Many of the shortcomings are well 
founded, but not necessarily reasonable, for all that many users.  I see all 
this Sturm und Drang" about this feature or that feature, and I have to 
wonder whether or not it really matters!  Performance wise the K3 is near 
the absolute top end.  Ergonomically, it also is near the top.  Nonetheless, 
some folks are not happy, and never would be, with something specifically 
designed along the line of the K3.  To those folks I simply say "go ahead" 
and buy whatever better meets your wants and desires.  However, you won't 
achieve much, if any, improvement in performance.  If you can detect a 
significantly better performing radio, then your ear is much better than 
mine.


Elecraft has an incredible advantage over other manufacturers because they 
have a support team that is second to none.  If you have a problem, they 
will fix it--one way or another!!!  Other manufacturers will somewhat 
similarly "fix your radio", but not necessarily to the extent of making it 
better than it was when you bought it.  Elecraft will "fix it", and it all 
probability make it even better!


Some features are lacking in the K3, and some are very significant. 
However, just about everything that could be crammed into the K3 has been. 
If it isn't there now, it very well may be with software upgrades.  No other 
manufacturer is so dedicated to keeping their "top line" radio so forward 
capable.  Even though other manufacturers have adopted the "firmware 
upgrade" capability, nobody is doing more with that capability than 
Elecraft!  Pure fact!


If the K3 doesn't meet your expectations, sell it!  I seriously doubt you 
will replace it without spending a great deal more.  You won't gain much, if 
anything, in performance, but you might get something that "fits you" more 
appropriately.  If your problem with the K3 was a specific performance 
attribute, then possibly you will solve that, but somewhere there will be 
some compromise!


Right now I don't anticipate ever needing more than what the K3 provides me. 
That feeling may change, but I would bet large amounts of money that it will 
take a very serious "up scaling" cost wise to achieve that.  In the 
meantime, so many of the "deficiencies" in the K3 are being addressed by 
software upgrades, I can't imagine why I would become less convinced that I 
now have the right radio.  Who else is doing so much to achieve perfection 
than Elecraft?  They won't get there, but they keep trying


All you need to do, to truly see the value of a K3, is to compare features 
and cost.  If another manufacturer gets closer to your wants and needs, by 
all means go for it!  Somehow, though, I think you would be part of a very 
small minority.  The K3 was too well planned, and too well designed to be 
easily outdone.  Yes, something will come along that exceeds it, but not 
anytime soon.  When that happens, will it be enough better to justify my 
switching?  I doubt it.  Either the cost, or the marginal improvement will 
probably make that be unnecessary.  Unless I do something stupid, and blow 
up my K3, I'm probably set for a very long time!


Dave W7AQK



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Re: [Elecraft] Are you satisfied with your K3?

2012-12-05 Thread Matt Zilmer
Short answer: Yes, it is my Dream Machine.

Having owned a K2 since 2003 or so, I put in an order for K3 #24 while
Elecraft was in Visalia, 2007 (April or May).  K3/10 #24, as a kit,
arrived in October, 2007.  As far as I know #24 was the first or
second kit off the line.

I worked CQ WW using SSB and 10W right away.  Nine new countries for
W6NIA right off the bat.  To make sure credit goes where it should,
the receiver was so solid that I could hear a lot of the low-level DX
the big guns weren't copying.  Most of it was in between, where the K3
excels.

My XYL gets the best friend award here, but the K3 would run a real
close second.  It's fully loaded now, SubRX and a buncha filters,
every add-on available except for the PR-6.  All mods are up to date
too.  

I wouldn't have it any other way.  Like another later poster, my list
of rigs runs on from about 1973 to present.  About forty years.  As
far as I'm concerned the K3 is the best value proposition in the HF
Amateur Radio industry, historically and present-day.

There is a lot more here about the high quality of tech and customer
support, and Elecraft's is legendary in our community (almost unhead
of across several consumer product sectors that I know well, also).
But this is very well known by now, and even newbies are aware that if
they buy their first rig from Elecraft they will have support that no
other manufacturer can possibly match.

73,
matt zilmer
W6NIA
K3 #24, P3 #14, KX3 #6, etc.

On Wed, 05 Dec 2012 14:25:08 -0500, you wrote:

>I AM  As my K3 operates today, it is the best receiver I have ever 
>used - and the list is over fifty years long. The settings I use were 
>posted here several days ago. They are directed towards armchair copy 
>use - I doubt if they would do much to enhance a DXer's or contester's use.
>
>I have posted a lot of questions, complaints, and barbs regarding my K3 
>- which I built in February of this year. However, with the posts and 
>emails I received (that were constructive in nature), I gained enough 
>knowledge about the K3 and its menus,  to send me in the right direction 
>to correct what I perceive as K3 deficiencies.
>
>Along the way, I have found the Cady Manual to be top notch and totally 
>necessary for understanding the K3. I keep a file of posts made here and 
>on the Yahoo Group that have been informative.
>
>I make all my settings the "hard" way using the K3 menus, as I have 
>experienced failures when making changes via K3 EZ (possibly related to 
>Win7).
>
>Anyway, the long and short is that I am now very pleased with my K3 - it 
>is a keeper.
>
>Bill W2BLC
>
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Re: [Elecraft] Are you satisfied with your K3?

2012-12-05 Thread Nate Bargmann
I will second your motion.

My K3 is a solid performer after a bit over two years of near daily use
including phone and CW along with a smattering of digital modes.  I have
yet to add the sub receiver since adding the P3 a bit over a year ago.
Having the visual element just hasn't gotten old.

This past weekend I operated as one of the Union Pacific Railroad 150th
anniversary special event operation stations.  Most of the afternoon on
20m phone I was using a CM500 headset, which drives the K3 very easily,
and the ALS600 amplifier.  I received many unsolicited reports of good
to excellent audio.  I figure that any combination that makes me sound
good is a winner in my book.  Also, using the K3's VOX is a pleasure,
especially with the noise gate enabled.

With the 2.1 kHz filter in slot 2 once I use the high cut to take out a
group that is 2 kHz below our 75m section nets in the morning, I simply
don't hear them and yet the audio fidelity of our net is still very good
from my speakers.

Perhaps it is my use of the receive equalization to roll off everything
above 3 kHz as much as I can and my use of the RF Gain control that I
have no fatigue at all listening to my K3.  My backside gets tired of
the chair long before anything else!

Would I buy it again?  Absolutely, without hesitation.

73, de Nate, N0NB >>

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Re: [Elecraft] Are you satisfied with your K3?

2012-12-05 Thread Robert G. Strickland
Completely satisfied here. More radio than I can use by far. Can't imagine 
investigating another buy.


On 12/5/2012 19:25, Bill Clarke wrote:

I AM  As my K3 operates today, it is the best receiver I have ever used - 
and the
list is over fifty years long. The settings I use were posted here several days 
ago.
They are directed towards armchair copy use - I doubt if they would do much to
enhance a DXer's or contester's use.

I have posted a lot of questions, complaints, and barbs regarding my K3 - which 
I
built in February of this year. However, with the posts and emails I received 
(that
were constructive in nature), I gained enough knowledge about the K3 and its 
menus,
to send me in the right direction to correct what I perceive as K3 deficiencies.

Along the way, I have found the Cady Manual to be top notch and totally 
necessary for
understanding the K3. I keep a file of posts made here and on the Yahoo Group 
that
have been informative.

I make all my settings the "hard" way using the K3 menus, as I have experienced
failures when making changes via K3 EZ (possibly related to Win7).

Anyway, the long and short is that I am now very pleased with my K3 - it is a 
keeper.

Bill W2BLC


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Re: [Elecraft] Are you satisfied with your K3?

2012-12-05 Thread Ralph Parker
>I AM As my K3 operates today, it is the best receiver I have ever used -
> and the list is over fifty years long

Me too, over a similar time period.
I was uncertain until I did the DSP upgrade, and installed 4.51.
So I just sold my 'backup' FT-1k Mk.V.

And my Super-Cmos III keyer from Idion Press is the best keyer I've ever used.

Ralph, VE7XF

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Re: [Elecraft] Are you satisfied with your K3?

2012-12-05 Thread Fred Smith
Bill

Win7 is "not" the problem. I have found it is usually operator malfunction
in my case 8>)

Fred/N0AZZ

-Original Message-
From: elecraft-boun...@mailman.qth.net
[mailto:elecraft-boun...@mailman.qth.net] On Behalf Of Bill Clarke
Sent: Wednesday, December 05, 2012 1:25 PM
To: elecraft@mailman.qth.net
Subject: [Elecraft] Are you satisfied with your K3?

I AM  As my K3 operates today, it is the best receiver I have ever used
- and the list is over fifty years long. The settings I use were posted here
several days ago. They are directed towards armchair copy use - I doubt if
they would do much to enhance a DXer's or contester's use.

I have posted a lot of questions, complaints, and barbs regarding my K3
- which I built in February of this year. However, with the posts and emails
I received (that were constructive in nature), I gained enough knowledge
about the K3 and its menus,  to send me in the right direction to correct
what I perceive as K3 deficiencies.

Along the way, I have found the Cady Manual to be top notch and totally
necessary for understanding the K3. I keep a file of posts made here and on
the Yahoo Group that have been informative.

I make all my settings the "hard" way using the K3 menus, as I have
experienced failures when making changes via K3 EZ (possibly related to
Win7).

Anyway, the long and short is that I am now very pleased with my K3 - it is
a keeper.

Bill W2BLC


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Re: [Elecraft] Are you satisfied with your K3?

2012-12-05 Thread Keith Heimbold
I am doing cartwheels in my mind at work. That is how happy i am with my two 
K3s. Totally stoked with them!!!

Keith
AK6ZZ

Sent from my iPhone please excuse typos

On Dec 5, 2012, at 11:34 AM, k4...@aol.com wrote:

> Ditto here too!
> 
> 73,
> Henry - K4TMC
> K3/100 #98
> 
> 
> 
> 
> 
> 
> 
> -Original Message-
> From: Bill Clarke 
> To: elecraft 
> Sent: Wed, Dec 5, 2012 2:25 pm
> Subject: [Elecraft] Are you satisfied with your K3?
> 
> 
> I AM  As my K3 operates today, it is the best receiver I have ever 
> used - and the list is over fifty years long. The settings I use were 
> posted here several days ago. They are directed towards armchair copy 
> use - I doubt if they would do much to enhance a DXer's or contester's use.
> 
> I have posted a lot of questions, complaints, and barbs regarding my K3 
> - which I built in February of this year. However, with the posts and 
> emails I received (that were constructive in nature), I gained enough 
> knowledge about the K3 and its menus,  to send me in the right direction 
> to correct what I perceive as K3 deficiencies.
> 
> Along the way, I have found the Cady Manual to be top notch and totally 
> necessary for understanding the K3. I keep a file of posts made here and 
> on the Yahoo Group that have been informative.
> 
> I make all my settings the "hard" way using the K3 menus, as I have 
> experienced failures when making changes via K3 EZ (possibly related to 
> Win7).
> 
> Anyway, the long and short is that I am now very pleased with my K3 - it 
> is a keeper.
> 
> Bill W2BLC
> 
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Re: [Elecraft] Are you satisfied with your K3?

2012-12-05 Thread k4tmc
Ditto here too!

73,
Henry - K4TMC
K3/100 #98

 

 

 

-Original Message-
From: Bill Clarke 
To: elecraft 
Sent: Wed, Dec 5, 2012 2:25 pm
Subject: [Elecraft] Are you satisfied with your K3?


I AM  As my K3 operates today, it is the best receiver I have ever 
used - and the list is over fifty years long. The settings I use were 
posted here several days ago. They are directed towards armchair copy 
use - I doubt if they would do much to enhance a DXer's or contester's use.

I have posted a lot of questions, complaints, and barbs regarding my K3 
- which I built in February of this year. However, with the posts and 
emails I received (that were constructive in nature), I gained enough 
knowledge about the K3 and its menus,  to send me in the right direction 
to correct what I perceive as K3 deficiencies.

Along the way, I have found the Cady Manual to be top notch and totally 
necessary for understanding the K3. I keep a file of posts made here and 
on the Yahoo Group that have been informative.

I make all my settings the "hard" way using the K3 menus, as I have 
experienced failures when making changes via K3 EZ (possibly related to 
Win7).

Anyway, the long and short is that I am now very pleased with my K3 - it 
is a keeper.

Bill W2BLC


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[Elecraft] Are you satisfied with your K3?

2012-12-05 Thread Bill Clarke
I AM  As my K3 operates today, it is the best receiver I have ever 
used - and the list is over fifty years long. The settings I use were 
posted here several days ago. They are directed towards armchair copy 
use - I doubt if they would do much to enhance a DXer's or contester's use.


I have posted a lot of questions, complaints, and barbs regarding my K3 
- which I built in February of this year. However, with the posts and 
emails I received (that were constructive in nature), I gained enough 
knowledge about the K3 and its menus,  to send me in the right direction 
to correct what I perceive as K3 deficiencies.


Along the way, I have found the Cady Manual to be top notch and totally 
necessary for understanding the K3. I keep a file of posts made here and 
on the Yahoo Group that have been informative.


I make all my settings the "hard" way using the K3 menus, as I have 
experienced failures when making changes via K3 EZ (possibly related to 
Win7).


Anyway, the long and short is that I am now very pleased with my K3 - it 
is a keeper.


Bill W2BLC


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