Re: [Elecraft] FD & 6 meters

2016-06-30 Thread Jack.f6ajw 
IC-910H on 6 m !?!? Mine only covers  2 m to 23 cm ;-)

73's.

Jacques F6AJW/IN93EK

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> Le 29 juin 2016 à 19:10, Edward R Cole  a écrit :
> 
> Dave,
> 
> Still waiting on ARRL for my K1/W1AW card from your 2m eme operation during 
> the Centennial Year.
> 
> Regarding use of a long wire for 6m, I completely agree.  Yes, you may be 
> able to load such an antenna but it will hardly operate efficiently (multiple 
> lobes in unknown directions).  A friend uses a G5RV on 6m with his IC910H and 
> does not get out enough radiation to produce a copyable signal at my QTH only 
> 15 miles away (I am using either KX3 or K3+PR6 with 6-element yagi which can 
> copy 6m eme signals).
> 
> He might do better loading a dummy load?  He has 6m yagi but has not yet 
> installed it.  Much better putting up a simple 6m dipole than trying to load 
> an HF antenna.  I built one with some 1/2-inch conduit and a board for center 
> insulator which worked roving in one of the VHF Contests.
> 
> I was away from home on FD so not able to monitor any of the bands (20m was 
> hoping late at night when we got home).  First year in many that I did not 
> help my local club with FD.
> 
> 73, Ed - KL7UW
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Re: [Elecraft] FD & 6 meters

2016-06-29 Thread Edward R Cole 

Dave,

Still waiting on ARRL for my K1/W1AW card from your 2m eme operation 
during the Centennial Year.


Regarding use of a long wire for 6m, I completely agree.  Yes, you 
may be able to load such an antenna but it will hardly operate 
efficiently (multiple lobes in unknown directions).  A friend uses a 
G5RV on 6m with his IC910H and does not get out enough radiation to 
produce a copyable signal at my QTH only 15 miles away (I am using 
either KX3 or K3+PR6 with 6-element yagi which can copy 6m eme signals).


He might do better loading a dummy load?  He has 6m yagi but has not 
yet installed it.  Much better putting up a simple 6m dipole than 
trying to load an HF antenna.  I built one with some 1/2-inch conduit 
and a board for center insulator which worked roving in one of the 
VHF Contests.


I was away from home on FD so not able to monitor any of the bands 
(20m was hoping late at night when we got home).  First year in many 
that I did not help my local club with FD.


73, Ed - KL7UW
http://www.kl7uw.com
"Kits made by KL7UW"
Dubus Mag business:
dubus...@gmail.com

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Re: [Elecraft] FD & 6 meters

2016-06-28 Thread Jim Brown 

On Tue,6/28/2016 6:10 AM, David Olean wrote:
FB on the six meter QSOs.  You really need a dedicated antenna for six 
to really enjoy the band.  long wires work, but you need something 
better if you start to get serious.


Yes, BUT -- before I had a 6M antenna at my new QTH in W6, I had a pair 
of 80/40 fan dipoles up about 120 ft, fed with RG11. When 6M opened, I 
used them, switching between them on RX to see which heard the DX better 
and called on that antenna. With 100W, I made at least a dozen 
double-hop CW QSOs split between KH6 and W1/2/3/4, as well as a lot of 
single-hop Qs.


My 3-3el SteppIR with the added fixed element works better. :)

73, Jim K9YC

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[Elecraft] FD & 6 Meters

2016-06-28 Thread grif80128 
Message: 22 
Date: Tue, 28 Jun 2016 00:56:16 -0400 
From: "Gary Smith" < g...@ka1j.com > 
Message-ID: < 57720370.25109.21c1...@gary.ka1j.com > 

" Extracts: I've never worked any 6M contacts until Field Day...my 
160 sloper with my K3s ... 6M from SE Connecticut 
was only open to the 4th call area. ...What I found difficult was the 
intelligibility of many of the 6M 
stations; many sounded almost like they were on LSB but they were on 
USB. There was little to understand and it seemed like their signal 
was maybe compressed. Others were clear as a bell but I only worked a 
few as my amp is 160-10. I'm guessing some of the radios must have 
had a problem, I thought it might be indicative of 6M contacts till I 
heard the clear stations. But well more than half were impossible to 
tune in easily." -Gary KA1J 
  
Gary, I ran our 6 Meter station for the W0NT 7E effort using my K3S, the first 
time, and the 
club's 5 element yagi. Propagation is always a crap shoot on 6M. This year was 
characterized 
at our site by popcorn openings-an opening that seemed to explode open with a 
station's call and then 
disappear as quickly. The openings were sporatic. Heard IL, WI and actually 
worked a few TN stations.. 
Some audio signals were garbled, like aurora, EME, or long path and were very 
hard to copy. I had no 
large openings that would have allowed me to test the filtering capabilities of 
the K3S! Darn Roughly 
25 contacts for 24 hrs...not up to expectations! No Es into California, which 
was running the past few 
days before FD. Perhaps the yagi was too much antenna. A simple 6M dipole might 
have been a 
better choice. Thought about constructing one during the exercise but didn't 
want to miss any time 
away from the radio. Plenty of time to hone the antennas and technique between 
now and next FD. 
  
Jim 
KC0TRK 
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Re: [Elecraft] FD & 6 meters

2016-06-28 Thread David Olean 

Hi Gary

FB on the six meter QSOs.  You really need a dedicated antenna for 
six to really enjoy the band.  long wires work, but you need something 
better if you start to get serious.  I was operating with a loosely  
knit group in Kennebunk, Maine, using the call K1N.   We set up at a 
school and had my K3 on 80 thru 15 meters with two wire antennas strung 
from trees. One was a 3 element 20 meter array with a set of reflectors. 
The reflector was not set correctly due to a lack of suitable trees. It 
still seemed to work OK. The second wire antenna was a simple doublet. 
Both were fed with open wire line. We ran 5 watts on solar power. I had 
a second K3 on six meters and dragged a 7 element 31 ft boom yagi along 
with 30 ft of Rohn 25. We used 1/2" hardline for the feedline.  With the 
yagi, we heard a lot more than we could work, hearing other Field Day 
stations near New York City in NLI, NNJ,and ENY, but could not attract 
their attention with our puny 5 watts QRP signal. The band did open on 
Sunday morning and we worked a fair amount of Es stations in a few 
Florida sections, GA, AL, SC, and NC. The beam helped out a bunch and we 
were almost competitive with the local 100 watt FD stations. Locally, we 
worked ME, NH, VT, EMA, WMA, ENY, and heard RI, CT, NLI, EPA, and NNJ,  
Our QRP status and poor VHF location gave me the idea to bring a good 
beam antenna to help us out. I am glad I brought it.


Yes I heard some raunchy sounding signals too. 100 watt bricks running 
on low batteries with mic gain fully clockwise can take your breath 
away!   That ticking sound you heard is an artifact of the K3 
synthesizer on a few bands including six meters. There is a mod to help 
cure it.  You can hear it on a quiet band or with no antenna attached to 
the antenna jack.



Dave K1WHS

ps. A few guys thanked us for giving them Navassa this past winter.  
(tongue in cheek!)



On 6/28/2016 4:56 AM, Gary Smith wrote:

I've never worked any 6M contacts until Field Day. Never had a 6M
radio till my old K3 but with my 360' of RG-8 and no 6M antenna, it
never happened.

A friend recently gave me 360' of 7/8 50 ohm hardline and I found my
160 sloper with my K3s could hear 6M signals and had a reasonably
decent SWR. None of my other wire antennas could do either well at
all.

I noticed a few things in this little foray, 6M from SE Connecticut
was only open to the 4th call area. I did make one contact to Rhode
Island, not far away.

What I found difficult was the intelligibility of many of the 6M
stations; many sounded almost like they were on LSB but they were on
USB. There was little to understand and it seemed like their signal
was maybe compressed. Others were clear as a bell but I only worked a
few as my amp is 160-10. I'm guessing some of the radios must have
had a problem, I thought it might be indicative of 6M contacts till I
heard the clear stations. But well more than half were impossible to
tune in easily.

Another thing I noticed was when I was using the second preamp in the
K3s, I would hear a clicking in the audio as I tuned. It was like
every increment from the VFO equalled one low volume click. When I
stopped turning the VFO, the clicks stopped. Is this normal?

Now I have RI, FL, GA and SC on 6M! Nice to have some new challenges,
seeing as ATNO in DXCC have become more rare.

73,

Gary
KA1J
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Re: [Elecraft] FD & 6 meters

2016-06-28 Thread Wes Stewart 
Although licensed since 1958 I had never worked six meters either until the 2009 
FD. (I skipped 6, went to 2M where I pioneered SSB on the band and worked Tropo, 
MS and EME)


On that FD, I was casually doing some tune and pounce from home when I decided 
to listen to 6 with my fairly new K3 and my 80M inverted-vee fed with 200' of 
RG8. One of the local clubs was cluttering up 50.125 from 9000' up a nearby 
mountain. Es was going wild so I joined in with the barefoot K3100 (no tuner and 
a HB preamp) that maybe put out 10W.  I worked a few stations on SSB but the 
locals were making it difficult so I switched to CW and started tuning down from 
.125. At 50.123 I heard a CQ. It was weak and took some serious listening to 
pull out the call.  I answered him and he came right back with a report.


It was JL8GFB!  One hour and eight minutes later I worked JA7WSZ on 50.096.  So 
the band was open for over and hour between AZ and JA and apparently no one knew 
it but me.  (I seldom use spots today and didn't use them at all back then)


Wes  N7WS

On 6/27/2016 9:56 PM, Gary Smith wrote:

I've never worked any 6M contacts until Field Day. Never had a 6M
radio till my old K3 but with my 360' of RG-8 and no 6M antenna, it
never happened.

A friend recently gave me 360' of 7/8 50 ohm hardline and I found my
160 sloper with my K3s could hear 6M signals and had a reasonably
decent SWR. None of my other wire antennas could do either well at
all.



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[Elecraft] FD & 6 meters

2016-06-27 Thread Gary Smith 
I've never worked any 6M contacts until Field Day. Never had a 6M 
radio till my old K3 but with my 360' of RG-8 and no 6M antenna, it 
never happened. 

A friend recently gave me 360' of 7/8 50 ohm hardline and I found my 
160 sloper with my K3s could hear 6M signals and had a reasonably 
decent SWR. None of my other wire antennas could do either well at 
all.

I noticed a few things in this little foray, 6M from SE Connecticut 
was only open to the 4th call area. I did make one contact to Rhode 
Island, not far away. 

What I found difficult was the intelligibility of many of the 6M 
stations; many sounded almost like they were on LSB but they were on 
USB. There was little to understand and it seemed like their signal 
was maybe compressed. Others were clear as a bell but I only worked a 
few as my amp is 160-10. I'm guessing some of the radios must have 
had a problem, I thought it might be indicative of 6M contacts till I 
heard the clear stations. But well more than half were impossible to 
tune in easily.

Another thing I noticed was when I was using the second preamp in the 
K3s, I would hear a clicking in the audio as I tuned. It was like 
every increment from the VFO equalled one low volume click. When I 
stopped turning the VFO, the clicks stopped. Is this normal?

Now I have RI, FL, GA and SC on 6M! Nice to have some new challenges, 
seeing as ATNO in DXCC have become more rare.

73,

Gary
KA1J
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