Re: [Elecraft] K3 roger beep when mic keyed with XMIT?
You could always try setting the noise gate to the point where the beeps are not heard. 73 Ian -- Ian J Maude, G0VGS SysOp GB7MBC HB9DRV-9 DX Clusters Member RSGB, GQRP 9838, FISTS 14077 | K3 #455 http://www.m0scg.org.uk On 7 October 2010 13:12, Sam Morgan k5oai@gmail.com wrote: I got frustrated with my inability to get the vox setup correctly, my problem getting the gain/antivox set correctly, NOT a k3 problem! So I started keying my mic(s) with the XMIT button. Mic's are a D-104 and a CM-500, neither one has it's own keying line. After a few minutes with a group I chat with every day, I was ask where I got the Roger Beep for my rig. I ask what's that, and was told it was a thing that CB'ers often added, that causes a beep sound at the end of their transmissions. (since I hear a tone here in the shack, when I push the XMIT key as well as when I unkey, I don't know if it goes out on the air both times or not?) I found the source of this annoyance to be the SW TONE being set to ON. My question is, how do I keep the beeps, for when I push the other buttons on the face of the K3, but not get the added 'feature' of the CBer's Roger Beep (also known as a courtesy tone, I'm told), every time I key the mic. -- GB 73 K5OAI Sam Morgan __ Elecraft mailing list Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm Post: mailto:Elecraft@mailman.qth.net This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html __ Elecraft mailing list Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm Post: mailto:Elecraft@mailman.qth.net This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html
[Elecraft] K3 roger beep when mic keyed with XMIT?
I got frustrated with my inability to get the vox setup correctly, my problem getting the gain/antivox set correctly, NOT a k3 problem! So I started keying my mic(s) with the XMIT button. Mic's are a D-104 and a CM-500, neither one has it's own keying line. After a few minutes with a group I chat with every day, I was ask where I got the Roger Beep for my rig. I ask what's that, and was told it was a thing that CB'ers often added, that causes a beep sound at the end of their transmissions. (since I hear a tone here in the shack, when I push the XMIT key as well as when I unkey, I don't know if it goes out on the air both times or not?) I found the source of this annoyance to be the SW TONE being set to ON. My question is, how do I keep the beeps, for when I push the other buttons on the face of the K3, but not get the added 'feature' of the CBer's Roger Beep (also known as a courtesy tone, I'm told), every time I key the mic. -- GB 73 K5OAI Sam Morgan __ Elecraft mailing list Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm Post: mailto:Elecraft@mailman.qth.net This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html
Re: [Elecraft] K3 roger beep when mic keyed with XMIT?
This might help: here's a PTT button you can build from parts at Radio Shack. Use the PTT RCA jack instead of the 15-pin accessory connector; I just forgot. http://wa5znu.org/2007/11/k3/ptt/ Leigh/WA5ZNU -- View this message in context: http://elecraft.365791.n2.nabble.com/K3-roger-beep-when-mic-keyed-with-XMIT-tp5611061p5613347.html Sent from the [K3] mailing list archive at Nabble.com. __ Elecraft mailing list Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm Post: mailto:Elecraft@mailman.qth.net This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html
[Elecraft] K3 - Roger beep
What do people think of an optional 'roger beep' (don't know any other term for it) at the end of each trasmission, i.e. triggered by the PTT coming off? M0XDF -- In theory, there is no difference between theory and practice, but in practice there is. ___ Elecraft mailing list Post to: Elecraft@mailman.qth.net You must be a subscriber to post to the list. Subscriber Info (Addr. Change, sub, unsub etc.): http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/subscribers.htm Elecraft web page: http://www.elecraft.com
Re: [Elecraft] K3 - Roger beep
You have got to be kidding! john-n4dsp What do people think of an optional 'roger beep' (don't know any other term for it) at the end of each trasmission, i.e. triggered by the PTT coming off? M0XDF -- In theory, there is no difference between theory and practice, but in practice there is. ___ Elecraft mailing list Post to: Elecraft@mailman.qth.net You must be a subscriber to post to the list. Subscriber Info (Addr. Change, sub, unsub etc.): http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/subscribers.htm Elecraft web page: http://www.elecraft.com -- No virus found in this incoming message. Checked by AVG Free Edition. Version: 7.5.467 / Virus Database: 269.6.2/787 - Release Date: 5/3/2007 2:11 PM ___ Elecraft mailing list Post to: Elecraft@mailman.qth.net You must be a subscriber to post to the list. Subscriber Info (Addr. Change, sub, unsub etc.): http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/subscribers.htm Elecraft web page: http://www.elecraft.com
Re: [Elecraft] K3 - Roger beep
- Original Message - From: David Ferrington [EMAIL PROTECTED] What do people think of an optional 'roger beep' (don't know any other term for it) at the end of each trasmission, i.e. triggered by the PTT coming off? David, let's go one step further - a free Space Cadet uniform with each K3? Simon K3 - I screwed it up myself HB9DRV ___ Elecraft mailing list Post to: Elecraft@mailman.qth.net You must be a subscriber to post to the list. Subscriber Info (Addr. Change, sub, unsub etc.): http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/subscribers.htm Elecraft web page: http://www.elecraft.com
Re: [Elecraft] K3 - Roger beep
David Ferrington wrote: What do people think of an optional 'roger beep' (don't know any other term for it) at the end of each trasmission, i.e. triggered by the PTT coming off? It's a troll right? Ian -- Ian J Maude G0VGS SysOp GB7MBC DX Cluster Member of RSGB, ARRL, GQRP K2 #4044 ___ Elecraft mailing list Post to: Elecraft@mailman.qth.net You must be a subscriber to post to the list. Subscriber Info (Addr. Change, sub, unsub etc.): http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/subscribers.htm Elecraft web page: http://www.elecraft.com
Re: [Elecraft] K3 - Roger beep
Let's leave that until Elecraft bring out a 27MHz option for the K3! I take it you have come to amateur radio from CB? 73 In a recent message, David Ferrington [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote ... What do people think of an optional 'roger beep' (don't know any other term for it) at the end of each trasmission, i.e. triggered by the PTT coming off? M0XDF -- David G4DMP Leeds, England, UK -- ___ Elecraft mailing list Post to: Elecraft@mailman.qth.net You must be a subscriber to post to the list. Subscriber Info (Addr. Change, sub, unsub etc.): http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/subscribers.htm Elecraft web page: http://www.elecraft.com
Re: [Elecraft] K3 - Roger beep
A truly excellent idea but you should have asked more. Since the audio is being processed by dsp it should be a no brainer to add echo !!! ...and maybe a pull out drawer underneath for a ten code lookup sheet !!! Martin David Ferrington wrote: What do people think of an optional 'roger beep' (don't know any other term for it) at the end of each trasmission, i.e. triggered by the PTT coming off? M0XDF ___ Elecraft mailing list Post to: Elecraft@mailman.qth.net You must be a subscriber to post to the list. Subscriber Info (Addr. Change, sub, unsub etc.): http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/subscribers.htm Elecraft web page: http://www.elecraft.com
Re: [Elecraft] K3 - Roger beep
Sorry, I'm relatively new ham, so if that's frowned upon, forgive me. Only a lot of people in my club work VHF contests (I've ordered an XV144) and use a beep a lot. On 4/5/07 09:06, n4dsp [EMAIL PROTECTED] sent: You have got to be kidding! john-n4dsp What do people think of an optional 'roger beep' (don't know any other term for it) at the end of each trasmission, i.e. triggered by the PTT coming off? M0XDF -- The nice thing about standards is that there are so many of them to choose from. -Andrew Tannenbaum, computer science professor (1944- ) ___ Elecraft mailing list Post to: Elecraft@mailman.qth.net You must be a subscriber to post to the list. Subscriber Info (Addr. Change, sub, unsub etc.): http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/subscribers.htm Elecraft web page: http://www.elecraft.com
Re: [Elecraft] K3 - Roger beep
Ah, perhaps we were being a tad cruel, but it's a history thing I think, oh and a bit of a long standing joke with some as well. 73 Martin David Ferrington wrote: Sorry, I'm relatively new ham, so if that's frowned upon, forgive me. Only a lot of people in my club work VHF contests (I've ordered an XV144) and use a beep a lot. On 4/5/07 09:06, n4dsp [EMAIL PROTECTED] sent: You have got to be kidding! john-n4dsp What do people think of an optional 'roger beep' (don't know any other term for it) at the end of each trasmission, i.e. triggered by the PTT coming off? M0XDF ___ Elecraft mailing list Post to: Elecraft@mailman.qth.net You must be a subscriber to post to the list. Subscriber Info (Addr. Change, sub, unsub etc.): http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/subscribers.htm Elecraft web page: http://www.elecraft.com
Re: [Elecraft] K3 - Roger beep
On Fri, 4 May 2007, David Ferrington wrote: What do people think of an optional 'roger beep' (don't know any other term for it) at the end of each trasmission, i.e. triggered by the PTT coming off? Good Buddy, ya gotta keep the pedal to the metal for that. Thom www.baltimorehon.com/Home of the Baltimore Lexicon www.tlchost.net/hosting/ Web Hosting as low as 3.49/month ___ Elecraft mailing list Post to: Elecraft@mailman.qth.net You must be a subscriber to post to the list. Subscriber Info (Addr. Change, sub, unsub etc.): http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/subscribers.htm Elecraft web page: http://www.elecraft.com
Re: [Elecraft] K3 - Roger beep
In a message dated 5/4/07 4:01:20 AM Eastern Daylight Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: What do people think of an optional 'roger beep' (don't know any other term for it) at the end of each trasmission, i.e. triggered by the PTT coming off? I think it's one feature I so not want. http://theducks.org/pictures/do-not-want-dog.jpg In theory, there is no difference between theory and practice, but in practice there is. If it were easy, everybody would be doing it. If it happens, it must be possible. If you push something hard enough, it will fall over. 73 de Jim, N2EY ** See what's free at http://www.aol.com. ___ Elecraft mailing list Post to: Elecraft@mailman.qth.net You must be a subscriber to post to the list. Subscriber Info (Addr. Change, sub, unsub etc.): http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/subscribers.htm Elecraft web page: http://www.elecraft.com
Re: [Elecraft] K3 - Roger beep
David, please understand the reaction from some over here on this side of the pond. Roger beeps, along with echo boxes are standard fare for the wanna-be hams on our CB channels. Actually, perhaps a roger beep makes a bit of sense in the marginal, sometimes imaginary world of VHF/UHF contesting QSO's ... 73! Ken Kopp - K0PP [EMAIL PROTECTED] ___ Elecraft mailing list Post to: Elecraft@mailman.qth.net You must be a subscriber to post to the list. Subscriber Info (Addr. Change, sub, unsub etc.): http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/subscribers.htm Elecraft web page: http://www.elecraft.com
Re: [Elecraft] K3 - Roger beep
Yes, understood - no offence taken and I hope none given. I understand from some of the serious VHF contesters over here that it is very helpful. I know there are various units available and I'm sure it would be possible to construct something simply, but thought I see if it is something that could be simply incorporated into the firmware. On 4/5/07 16:34, Ken Kopp [EMAIL PROTECTED] sent: David, please understand the reaction from some over here on this side of the pond. Roger beeps, along with echo boxes are standard fare for the wanna-be hams on our CB channels. Actually, perhaps a roger beep makes a bit of sense in the marginal, sometimes imaginary world of VHF/UHF contesting QSO's ... 73! Ken Kopp - K0PP [EMAIL PROTECTED] -- Black holes are where God divided by zero. -Steven Wright, comedian (1955-) ___ Elecraft mailing list Post to: Elecraft@mailman.qth.net You must be a subscriber to post to the list. Subscriber Info (Addr. Change, sub, unsub etc.): http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/subscribers.htm Elecraft web page: http://www.elecraft.com
RE: [Elecraft] K3 - Roger beep
Nasa uses it, so it must have some purpose... I have a 10 meter rig that has it built in, along with echo and robot voice! The beep is ok but to loud, with no way to adjust it. Brett N2DTS -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of David Ferrington Sent: Friday, May 04, 2007 11:43 AM To: Ken Kopp Cc: elecraft@mailman.qth.net Subject: Re: [Elecraft] K3 - Roger beep Yes, understood - no offence taken and I hope none given. I understand from some of the serious VHF contesters over here that it is very helpful. I know there are various units available and I'm sure it would be possible to construct something simply, but thought I see if it is something that could be simply incorporated into the firmware. ___ Elecraft mailing list Post to: Elecraft@mailman.qth.net You must be a subscriber to post to the list. Subscriber Info (Addr. Change, sub, unsub etc.): http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/subscribers.htm Elecraft web page: http://www.elecraft.com
Re: [Elecraft] K3 - Roger beep
Over here on this side of the big pond, it's considered rather crass. Rather like noisily breaking wind at church in the middle of the prayer. This caused by the shenanigans by CB operators on the 27 Mhz. band. Sadly duplicated by newbie amateur operators on 2 meter FM band frequently. Generally considered rude operating practices. No ill will meant to you guys in UK. 73, Sandy W5TVW - Original Message - From: Ken Kopp [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: David Ferrington [EMAIL PROTECTED] Cc: elecraft@mailman.qth.net Sent: Friday, May 04, 2007 10:34 AM Subject: Re: [Elecraft] K3 - Roger beep David, please understand the reaction from some over here on this side of the pond. Roger beeps, along with echo boxes are standard fare for the wanna-be hams on our CB channels. Actually, perhaps a roger beep makes a bit of sense in the marginal, sometimes imaginary world of VHF/UHF contesting QSO's ... 73! Ken Kopp - K0PP [EMAIL PROTECTED] ___ Elecraft mailing list Post to: Elecraft@mailman.qth.net You must be a subscriber to post to the list. Subscriber Info (Addr. Change, sub, unsub etc.): http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/subscribers.htm Elecraft web page: http://www.elecraft.com -- No virus found in this incoming message. Checked by AVG Free Edition. Version: 7.5.467 / Virus Database: 269.6.2/787 - Release Date: 5/3/2007 2:11 PM ___ Elecraft mailing list Post to: Elecraft@mailman.qth.net You must be a subscriber to post to the list. Subscriber Info (Addr. Change, sub, unsub etc.): http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/subscribers.htm Elecraft web page: http://www.elecraft.com
[Elecraft] K3 roger beep? Not!
There will be no roger beeps. End of thread :) 73, Wayne N6KR --- http://www.elecraft.com ___ Elecraft mailing list Post to: Elecraft@mailman.qth.net You must be a subscriber to post to the list. Subscriber Info (Addr. Change, sub, unsub etc.): http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/subscribers.htm Elecraft web page: http://www.elecraft.com
Re: [Elecraft] K3 - Roger beep
On Fri, 4 May 2007, Sandy W5TVW wrote: Over here on this side of the big pond, it's considered rather crass. Rather like noisily breaking wind at church in the middle of the prayer. The K3WC(K3 Whoppie Cushion)...next thing ya know, the Aptos crew will offer a Joy Buzzer attachment for the keyer. As soon as I get back to the office, I will order my K3 and sign the form with invisible ink. Thom www.baltimorehon.com/Home of the Baltimore Lexicon www.tlchost.net/hosting/ Web Hosting as low as 3.49/month ___ Elecraft mailing list Post to: Elecraft@mailman.qth.net You must be a subscriber to post to the list. Subscriber Info (Addr. Change, sub, unsub etc.): http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/subscribers.htm Elecraft web page: http://www.elecraft.com
[Elecraft] K3 - Roger beep
From: David Ferrington [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sorry, I'm relatively new ham, so if that's frowned upon, forgive me. Only a lot of people in my club work VHF contests (I've ordered an XV144) and use a beep a lot. Dave, don't let them grind you down. A roger beep is very common is radio service, just not in the ham bands. It is a common sense feature that most folks (including astronauts) find helpful. Just not most hams. Hams say that on FM and AM phone you know the other fellow is done because the carrier is gone. On a repeater, there is a tone. On sideband, he says over. I would bet they sell 1,000 times more FRS radios with roger beep that all the ham radios combined. If you like roger beep, buy a mic that has it and be happy. I would draw the line, however, at echo and barnyard sounds. Ken KC2JDY ___ Elecraft mailing list Post to: Elecraft@mailman.qth.net You must be a subscriber to post to the list. Subscriber Info (Addr. Change, sub, unsub etc.): http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/subscribers.htm Elecraft web page: http://www.elecraft.com
RE: [Elecraft] K3 - Roger beep
Yes, it has a legitimate use. It indicates when one person stops talking during informal use of a radio channel such as when the astronauts are talking. It replaces the spoken word over that is standard in professional, military and Amateur use. So there are very few situations where it has any value in Amateur work. VHF FM repeaters, for example, sometimes use the beep to signal when the repeater drops the carrier, since that happens after a delay following the last transmission. That is, two or more people might be talking through the repeater for a while, then when the conversation ends, a few seconds later the repeater will drop its carrier with a beep to signify that has happened, since there's no background noise to indicate the carrier is gone. It might be helpful in an SSB round table, except that it'd be darn irritating. There'd be a beep every few seconds! Short transmissions with brief pauses to be sure the frequency is clear are a much better way to avoid doubling transmissions with someone. After all, it only means the individual has stopped talking and nothing more. Ron AC7AC -Original Message- Nasa uses it, so it must have some purpose... I have a 10 meter rig that has it built in, along with echo and robot voice! The beep is ok but to loud, with no way to adjust it. Brett N2DTS ___ Elecraft mailing list Post to: Elecraft@mailman.qth.net You must be a subscriber to post to the list. Subscriber Info (Addr. Change, sub, unsub etc.): http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/subscribers.htm Elecraft web page: http://www.elecraft.com
