[Elecraft] K3 Filters for the 2nd receiver?

2007-12-12 Thread Paul Ferguson
I plan to use a K3 primarily for DXing. I want the second receiver 
option so I can listen for clear spots and stations working the DX in 
split operations. 

For this usage, can you see any reasons to add additional filters to 
the second receiver?

73,
Paul
K5ESW 
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Re: [Elecraft] K3 Filters for the 2nd receiver?

2007-12-12 Thread Bill W5WVO
If I understand what I think you are saying... The 2nd receiver is completely 
independent and doesn't use the filters (or anything else) in the primary 
receiver. Each receiver has its own dedicated roofing filters (up to five). 
You populate the filters in the 2nd receiver according to how you plan to use 
it (just as you do for the primary receiver). Like the primary receiver, the 
2nd receiver will come equipped by default with the 2.7 kHz 5-pole roofing 
filter, and you can replace this filter with another and/or add additional 
filters.


Bill W5WVO


Paul Ferguson wrote:

I plan to use a K3 primarily for DXing. I want the second receiver
option so I can listen for clear spots and stations working the DX in
split operations.

For this usage, can you see any reasons to add additional filters to
the second receiver?

73,
Paul
K5ESW
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Re: [Elecraft] K3 Filters for the 2nd receiver?

2007-12-12 Thread Mike Fatchett W0MU
Yes.

You will want some type of ssb and cw filter IMHO.


On 12/12/07 1:19 PM, Paul Ferguson [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 I plan to use a K3 primarily for DXing. I want the second receiver
 option so I can listen for clear spots and stations working the DX in
 split operations.
 
 For this usage, can you see any reasons to add additional filters to
 the second receiver?
 
 73,
 Paul
 K5ESW 
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Re: [Elecraft] K3 Filters for the 2nd receiver?

2007-12-12 Thread Mike Fatchett W0MU
I had the impression the 2nd receiver had no filters at all.

I had intended to put in a 2.7k 1000 and 400 filters in the 2nd receiver.

I also wanted to be able to operate FM and was going to put the FM filter in
the 2nd receiver.  Will this work?

The main receiver was going to have the 200, 400, 1000, 1.8 and 2.7 filters.

Mike W0MU  


On 12/12/07 2:05 PM, Bill W5WVO [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 If I understand what I think you are saying... The 2nd receiver is completely
 independent and doesn't use the filters (or anything else) in the primary
 receiver. Each receiver has its own dedicated roofing filters (up to five).
 You populate the filters in the 2nd receiver according to how you plan to use
 it (just as you do for the primary receiver). Like the primary receiver, the
 2nd receiver will come equipped by default with the 2.7 kHz 5-pole roofing
 filter, and you can replace this filter with another and/or add additional
 filters.
 
 Bill W5WVO
 
 
 Paul Ferguson wrote:
 I plan to use a K3 primarily for DXing. I want the second receiver
 option so I can listen for clear spots and stations working the DX in
 split operations.
 
 For this usage, can you see any reasons to add additional filters to
 the second receiver?
 
 73,
 Paul
 K5ESW
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Re: [Elecraft] K3 Filters for the 2nd receiver?

2007-12-12 Thread Don Wilhelm

Mike,

To transmit FM you will need the FM filter in the main receiver (it will 
also be used for transmit).
I would suggest that you re-examine your filters in the main receiver.  
If you will not operate digital modes, you can likely do without the 200 
Hz filter.  If the 200 Hz filter must stay, then I would suggest you 
eliminate the 1000 Hz filter unless you are a CW contest type that likes 
to listen with a wide receiver - during normal operating, your 1.8 kHz 
filter in conjunction with the DSP filtering should work just fine.  
OTOH, if you do not operate a lot of sideband contests, the 1.8 kHz 
filte could go and the 1000 Hz can stay.


These are only my suggestions, choose your filters to match your 
operating preferences.  The DSP will handle reduced bandwidths just fine 
until an offending S-9 +30 signal appears within the roofing filter 
bandpass.   That will likely only occur during contests or other times 
of intense operating activities.  With the 2nd receiver, one could 
always put the in-between filter widths there and switch to receiving 
with the 2nd receiver when the additional filtering is needed.  In other 
words, the FM filter, the 2.7kHz, the 1000 Hz, 400 Hz and 200 Hz in the 
main receiver and 2.7kHz, 1.8 kHz, 1000, and either 400 or 200 in the 
2nd receiver - or something like those combinations, it is all up to you.


73,
Don W3FPR

Mike Fatchett W0MU wrote:

I had the impression the 2nd receiver had no filters at all.

I had intended to put in a 2.7k 1000 and 400 filters in the 2nd receiver.

I also wanted to be able to operate FM and was going to put the FM filter in
the 2nd receiver.  Will this work?

The main receiver was going to have the 200, 400, 1000, 1.8 and 2.7 filters.
  


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Re: [Elecraft] K3 Filters for the 2nd receiver?

2007-12-12 Thread Mike Fatchett W0MU
I was afraid of that

I want the rig to do it all HI!

I can probably do without the FM in this rig then.

I am into RTYY, PSK, CW and SSB contesting.  Ok I have no life.

Thanks for the insight.

Mike


On 12/12/07 4:26 PM, Don Wilhelm [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 Mike,
 
 To transmit FM you will need the FM filter in the main receiver (it will
 also be used for transmit).
 I would suggest that you re-examine your filters in the main receiver.
 If you will not operate digital modes, you can likely do without the 200
 Hz filter.  If the 200 Hz filter must stay, then I would suggest you
 eliminate the 1000 Hz filter unless you are a CW contest type that likes
 to listen with a wide receiver - during normal operating, your 1.8 kHz
 filter in conjunction with the DSP filtering should work just fine.
 OTOH, if you do not operate a lot of sideband contests, the 1.8 kHz
 filte could go and the 1000 Hz can stay.
 
 These are only my suggestions, choose your filters to match your
 operating preferences.  The DSP will handle reduced bandwidths just fine
 until an offending S-9 +30 signal appears within the roofing filter
 bandpass.   That will likely only occur during contests or other times
 of intense operating activities.  With the 2nd receiver, one could
 always put the in-between filter widths there and switch to receiving
 with the 2nd receiver when the additional filtering is needed.  In other
 words, the FM filter, the 2.7kHz, the 1000 Hz, 400 Hz and 200 Hz in the
 main receiver and 2.7kHz, 1.8 kHz, 1000, and either 400 or 200 in the
 2nd receiver - or something like those combinations, it is all up to you.
 
 73,
 Don W3FPR
 
 Mike Fatchett W0MU wrote:
 I had the impression the 2nd receiver had no filters at all.
 
 I had intended to put in a 2.7k 1000 and 400 filters in the 2nd receiver.
 
 I also wanted to be able to operate FM and was going to put the FM filter in
 the 2nd receiver.  Will this work?
 
 The main receiver was going to have the 200, 400, 1000, 1.8 and 2.7 filters.
   
 


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Re: [Elecraft] K3 Filters for the 2nd receiver?

2007-12-12 Thread Alan Bloom
My solution was to order just one $79 500 Hz CW filter for now.  When
the variable-bandwidth CW filter becomes available I will install it in
the main receiver and move the 500-Hz filter to the second receiver
(when it becomes available).

So the main receiver lineup will be:

- 0.4-0.8 variable CW
- 1.5-2.2 variable SSB
- 2.7 SSB (stock)
- 6.0 AM
- 15  FM

Second receiver:

- 0.5 CW
- 2.7 SSB (stock)

Seems like the most bang for the buck.

Al N1AL


On Wed, 2007-12-12 at 14:53, Mike Fatchett W0MU wrote:
 Yes.
 
 You will want some type of ssb and cw filter IMHO.
 
 
 On 12/12/07 1:19 PM, Paul Ferguson [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 
  I plan to use a K3 primarily for DXing. I want the second receiver
  option so I can listen for clear spots and stations working the DX in
  split operations.
  
  For this usage, can you see any reasons to add additional filters to
  the second receiver?
  
  73,
  Paul
  K5ESW 


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