Re: [Elecraft] K3 manual errata

[Jim Brown]

Not at all.  I bought my K3s in 2008, added new synth boards and 
replaced the Xvtr board to get the K3S-vintage preamp. Most of us 
studied the hard copy manual that came with our radios, then  printed an 
updated user manual a few years after we got our radios. My last 
printing was from about 2010-11. What I'm looking for is not an errata, 
but progress update notes that reflect firmware updates.


73, Jim K9YC

On 5/23/2019 1:53 PM, Elecraft Support wrote:

Hi Jim,
I hope this helps. link here 


Cheers,
Doug



Elecraft Customer Support
supp...@elecraft.com 
831-763-4211



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[Elecraft] K3 Manual

[Rich]

The searchable emails did not cover this question, so if it was asked 
prior I apologize.  Should K3 owners just stick with the K3 manual which 
is dated 2011 or should we start using the K3S manual?


I guess the real question would be are these manuals now combined into 
one for both radios?


Rich
K3RWN
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[Elecraft] K3 Manual

[Ian Westerland]

Thanks everyone.  I just ordered the Manual from the ke7x.com site.

Cheers.


Ian VK3vin


   


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Re: [Elecraft] [K3] Manual Notch Reconsidered

[Ian White]

For both manual and auto notch, the key seems to be to create two
identical streams of signal data and apply different DSP to each. Stream
1 is totally focused on extracting accurate information about the
interfering tones (frequency, amplitude, phase) regardless of any damage
it may do to the audio signal. The damaged audio signal from Stream 1 is
then thrown away. Instead, the tone information extracted from Stream 1
is applied very carefully to a 'clean copy' of the same data in Stream 2
to cancel the interference with minimal damage to the recovered audio.



73 from Ian GM3SEK


>-Original Message-
>From: Elecraft [mailto:elecraft-boun...@mailman.qth.net] On Behalf Of
>Jim Brown
>Sent: 01 August 2014 09:11
>To: elecraft@mailman.qth.net
>Subject: Re: [Elecraft] [K3] Manual Notch Reconsidered
>
>I have no clue what the K3 does, but the slickest way to do this is to
>first sense the frequency of the tone you want to notch, then create a
>tone of the same frequency, shift its phase so that it is exactly 180
>degrees out of phase with the interfering tone, make it equal to the
>interfering tone's amplitude, and add it to the signal. That will
cancel
>the tone with no other effect on the signal. That ain't easy, because
it
>must track the drift of both the TX and the RX and the varying strength
>of the interfering signal, but with DSP, it IS possible.  The beauty of
>this technique is that it has NO effect on the desired signal -- it
>simply cancels the interfering carrier.
>
>The alternative technique is to add a narrow band notch filter, which
>MUST add phase shift that distorts the audio. The deeper the notch and
>the narrower the filter, the greater the phase shift, and thus greater
>distortion of the signal.
>
>These are fundamental concepts -- as my friends back home used to say,
>"you cain't get no better" than this, :)   and you must be very good
>(and have the processor cycles available) to do it well.
>
>73, Jim K9YC


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Re: [Elecraft] [K3] Manual Notch Reconsidered

[Jim Brown]

I have no clue what the K3 does, but the slickest way to do this is to 
first sense the frequency of the tone you want to notch, then create a 
tone of the same frequency, shift its phase so that it is exactly 180 
degrees out of phase with the interfering tone, make it equal to the 
interfering tone's amplitude, and add it to the signal. That will cancel 
the tone with no other effect on the signal. That ain't easy, because it 
must track the drift of both the TX and the RX and the varying strength 
of the interfering signal, but with DSP, it IS possible.  The beauty of 
this technique is that it has NO effect on the desired signal -- it 
simply cancels the interfering carrier.


The alternative technique is to add a narrow band notch filter, which 
MUST add phase shift that distorts the audio. The deeper the notch and 
the narrower the filter, the greater the phase shift, and thus greater 
distortion of the signal.


These are fundamental concepts -- as my friends back home used to say, 
"you cain't get no better" than this, :)   and you must be very good 
(and have the processor cycles available) to do it well.


73, Jim K9YC
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Re: [Elecraft] [K3] Manual Notch Reconsidered

[GRANT YOUNGMAN]

It is possible to adjust the CENTER frequency.  I’m unaware of any way to 
change the notch bandwidth.

Grant NQ5T


On Aug 1, 2014, at 12:29 AM, Guy Olinger K2AV  wrote:

> Page 25 in "K3 Owner's man D10.pdf"
> 
> Available in the download section of the Elecraft web page.
> 
> 
> On Fri, Aug 1, 2014 at 1:10 AM, Dick Dickinson  
> wrote:
>> A recent post mentioned that the frequency and bandwidth of the K3 notch
>> could be controlled.  If the bandwidth of the manual notch can be
>> controlled, I am unaware of how to go about it. 
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Re: [Elecraft] [K3] Manual Notch Reconsidered

[Guy Olinger K2AV]

Page 25 in "K3 Owner's man D10.pdf"

Available in the download section of the Elecraft web page.

Get the latest Adobe Reader to view the .pdf file. CTRL-F will bring
up a search window upper right corner of the Reader.  Helps to make
quick searches in large .pdf documents which would sometimes be murder
in a paper version.  Also finds things in Elecraft schematic diagram
.pdf files.

73, Guy

On Fri, Aug 1, 2014 at 1:10 AM, Dick Dickinson  wrote:
> A recent post mentioned that the frequency and bandwidth of the K3 notch
> could be controlled.  If the bandwidth of the manual notch can be
> controlled, I am unaware of how to go about it.  I've found it broader than
> I think it needs to be.  I recall seeing it applied to an SSTV waterfall and
> it was 100Hz wide (or wider?) with a flat bottom.
>
>
>
> We've been talking about some features that may not be quite what we like
> them to be.  I got a good compliment on the K3 VOX in the past couple of
> days.no clipping of the startup of VOX whatsoever.  As well, there are a lot
> of stations that could benefit from the type noise gate the K3 uses.
>
>
>
> 73,
>
> Dick - KA5KKT
>
>
>
>
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[Elecraft] [K3] Manual Notch Reconsidered

[Dick Dickinson]

A recent post mentioned that the frequency and bandwidth of the K3 notch
could be controlled.  If the bandwidth of the manual notch can be
controlled, I am unaware of how to go about it.  I've found it broader than
I think it needs to be.  I recall seeing it applied to an SSTV waterfall and
it was 100Hz wide (or wider?) with a flat bottom.

 

We've been talking about some features that may not be quite what we like
them to be.  I got a good compliment on the K3 VOX in the past couple of
days.no clipping of the startup of VOX whatsoever.  As well, there are a lot
of stations that could benefit from the type noise gate the K3 uses.

 

73,

Dick - KA5KKT

 

 

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Re: [Elecraft] K3 manual .pdf edit requests

[kk5na]

Great idea Joe,

I downloaded the free CutePDF and Cute Writer program  at
http://www.cutepdf.com/
and then went to the link you sent and did a Print to CutePDF and now have a
PDF version.

Regards
Joe KK5NA

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[mailto:elecraft-boun...@mailman.qth.net] On Behalf Of Joe Subich, W4TV
Sent: Monday, March 17, 2014 8:42 PM
To: elecraft@mailman.qth.net
Subject: Re: [Elecraft] K3 manual .pdf edit requests


Part 97 is available in HTML at: 
<http://www.ecfr.gov/cgi-bin/retrieveECFR?gp=&SID=41328afaea28f9a25ef32f8fdc
acd897&n=47y5.0.1.1.6&r=PART&ty=HTML>

If you want it in pdf, simply print to a pdf printer like PDF Creator.

73,

... Joe, W4TV


On 3/17/2014 7:44 PM, Fred Jensen wrote:
> I think I stand corrected.  When it was first discussed by ARRL, I got 
> the impression that any digital mode was confined to PSK-ish bandwidths.
>   Looking up the current FCC regs, 2K80J2D is permitted, so 45.5 baud
> 170 Hz shift RTTY would also be permitted.  I guess 2K80J2D is Pactor-3?
>
> Given that we have moved from "A1"=Morse Telegraphy, "A2"=Audio 
> Modulated Morse Telegraphy, and "A3"=AM Voice to 7, 8, and more 
> characters in an emission type designator, it's not surprising that it 
> got very complex.
>
> Side gripe-ette:  I was sorry when ecfr.gov stopped publishing the 
> entire Part in PDF.
>
> 73,
>
> Fred K6DGW
> - Northern California Contest Club
> - CU in the 2014 Cal QSO Party 4-5 Oct 2014
> - www.cqp.org
>
> On 3/17/2014 12:32 PM, Joe Subich, W4TV wrote:
>>
>>> however the FCC's bandwidth limitation on "RTTY" really means PSK31 
>>> and other narrow band digital modes, not 170 Hz 45.5 baud FSK.
>>
>> Not true ... if 2K80J2D is permitted *any* J2D mode (including 45.45 
>> baud AFSK) with a bandwidth *less than* 2800 Hz would also be permitted.
>>   Traditional RTTY (170 H shift, 45.45 baud) can be equally described 
>> as 370H0F1D, 370H0F1B, 370H0J2D or 370H0J2B depending on whether it 
>> is generated as AFSK or FSK and whether the content is generalized 
>> data or data meant for on screen display (automatic detection).
>
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Re: [Elecraft] K3 manual .pdf edit requests

[Joe Subich, W4TV]

Part 97 is available in HTML at: 



If you want it in pdf, simply print to a pdf printer like PDF Creator.

73,

   ... Joe, W4TV


On 3/17/2014 7:44 PM, Fred Jensen wrote:

I think I stand corrected.  When it was first discussed by ARRL, I got
the impression that any digital mode was confined to PSK-ish bandwidths.
  Looking up the current FCC regs, 2K80J2D is permitted, so 45.5 baud
170 Hz shift RTTY would also be permitted.  I guess 2K80J2D is Pactor-3?

Given that we have moved from "A1"=Morse Telegraphy, "A2"=Audio
Modulated Morse Telegraphy, and "A3"=AM Voice to 7, 8, and more
characters in an emission type designator, it's not surprising that it
got very complex.

Side gripe-ette:  I was sorry when ecfr.gov stopped publishing the
entire Part in PDF.

73,

Fred K6DGW
- Northern California Contest Club
- CU in the 2014 Cal QSO Party 4-5 Oct 2014
- www.cqp.org

On 3/17/2014 12:32 PM, Joe Subich, W4TV wrote:



however the FCC's bandwidth limitation on "RTTY" really means PSK31
and other narrow band digital modes, not 170 Hz 45.5 baud FSK.


Not true ... if 2K80J2D is permitted *any* J2D mode (including 45.45
baud AFSK) with a bandwidth *less than* 2800 Hz would also be permitted.
  Traditional RTTY (170 H shift, 45.45 baud) can be equally
described as 370H0F1D, 370H0F1B, 370H0J2D or 370H0J2B depending on
whether it is generated as AFSK or FSK and whether the content is
generalized data or data meant for on screen display (automatic
detection).



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Re: [Elecraft] K3 manual .pdf edit requests

[Fred Jensen]

I think I stand corrected.  When it was first discussed by ARRL, I got 
the impression that any digital mode was confined to PSK-ish bandwidths. 
 Looking up the current FCC regs, 2K80J2D is permitted, so 45.5 baud 
170 Hz shift RTTY would also be permitted.  I guess 2K80J2D is Pactor-3?


Given that we have moved from "A1"=Morse Telegraphy, "A2"=Audio 
Modulated Morse Telegraphy, and "A3"=AM Voice to 7, 8, and more 
characters in an emission type designator, it's not surprising that it 
got very complex.


Side gripe-ette:  I was sorry when ecfr.gov stopped publishing the 
entire Part in PDF.


73,

Fred K6DGW
- Northern California Contest Club
- CU in the 2014 Cal QSO Party 4-5 Oct 2014
- www.cqp.org

On 3/17/2014 12:32 PM, Joe Subich, W4TV wrote:



however the FCC's bandwidth limitation on "RTTY" really means PSK31
and other narrow band digital modes, not 170 Hz 45.5 baud FSK.


Not true ... if 2K80J2D is permitted *any* J2D mode (including 45.45
baud AFSK) with a bandwidth *less than* 2800 Hz would also be permitted.
  Traditional RTTY (170 H shift, 45.45 baud) can be equally
described as 370H0F1D, 370H0F1B, 370H0J2D or 370H0J2B depending on
whether it is generated as AFSK or FSK and whether the content is
generalized data or data meant for on screen display (automatic
detection).



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Re: [Elecraft] K3 manual .pdf edit requests

[Joe Subich, W4TV]

however the FCC's bandwidth limitation on "RTTY" really means PSK31
and other narrow band digital modes, not 170 Hz 45.5 baud FSK.


Not true ... if 2K80J2D is permitted *any* J2D mode (including 45.45
baud AFSK) with a bandwidth *less than* 2800 Hz would also be permitted. 
 Traditional RTTY (170 H shift, 45.45 baud) can be equally

described as 370H0F1D, 370H0F1B, 370H0J2D or 370H0J2B depending on
whether it is generated as AFSK or FSK and whether the content is
generalized data or data meant for on screen display (automatic
detection).

73,

   ... Joe, W4TV


On 3/17/2014 1:09 PM, Fred Jensen wrote:

The last sentence also needs to be updated.  Permitted emissions are now
USB, CW, and "RTTY," however the FCC's bandwidth limitation on "RTTY"
really means PSK31 and other narrow band digital modes, not 170 Hz 45.5
baud FSK.

73,

Fred K6DGW
- Northern California Contest Club
- CU in the 2014 Cal QSO Party 4-5 Oct 2014
- www.cqp.org

On 3/17/2014 7:13 AM, Sam Morgan wrote:


here is another update that would be welcome:
pg 40 says:

The U.S. 60-meter channel assignments
correspond to VFO settings of 5330.5, 5346.5,
5366.5, 5371.5, and 5403.5 kHz. USB is the only
mode allowed on this band.

I think the new frequencies are as follows:
5330.5, 5346.5, 5357.0, 5371.5, and 5403.5 kHz.



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Re: [Elecraft] K3 manual .pdf edit requests

[David Pratt]

But bearing mind this applies to the USA.  As the K3 is marketed worldwide,  
maybe all other countries' allocations should be included too.

73 de David G4DMP

On 17 Mar 2014 17:09, Fred Jensen  wrote:
>
> The last sentence also needs to be updated.  Permitted emissions are now 
> USB, CW, and "RTTY," however the FCC's bandwidth limitation on "RTTY" 
> really means PSK31 and other narrow band digital modes, not 170 Hz 45.5 
> baud FSK. 
>
> 73, 
>
> Fred K6DGW 
> - Northern California Contest Club 
> - CU in the 2014 Cal QSO Party 4-5 Oct 2014 
> - www.cqp.org 
>
> On 3/17/2014 7:13 AM, Sam Morgan wrote: 
>
> > here is another update that would be welcome: 
> > pg 40 says: 
> > 
> > The U.S. 60-meter channel assignments 
> > correspond to VFO settings of 5330.5, 5346.5, 
> > 5366.5, 5371.5, and 5403.5 kHz. USB is the only 
> > mode allowed on this band. 
> > 
> > I think the new frequencies are as follows: 
> > 5330.5, 5346.5, 5357.0, 5371.5, and 5403.5 kHz. 

David Pratt
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Re: [Elecraft] K3 manual .pdf edit requests

[Fred Jensen]

The last sentence also needs to be updated.  Permitted emissions are now 
USB, CW, and "RTTY," however the FCC's bandwidth limitation on "RTTY" 
really means PSK31 and other narrow band digital modes, not 170 Hz 45.5 
baud FSK.


73,

Fred K6DGW
- Northern California Contest Club
- CU in the 2014 Cal QSO Party 4-5 Oct 2014
- www.cqp.org

On 3/17/2014 7:13 AM, Sam Morgan wrote:


here is another update that would be welcome:
pg 40 says:

The U.S. 60-meter channel assignments
correspond to VFO settings of 5330.5, 5346.5,
5366.5, 5371.5, and 5403.5 kHz. USB is the only
mode allowed on this band.

I think the new frequencies are as follows:
5330.5, 5346.5, 5357.0, 5371.5, and 5403.5 kHz.



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[Elecraft] K3 manual .pdf edit requests

[Sam Morgan]

Along with the recently discussed MENU/MIC SEL Button 7 change, from the 
incorrect Button 3 as stated in the manual on pg 52.



here is another update that would be welcome:
pg 40 says:

The U.S. 60-meter channel assignments
correspond to VFO settings of 5330.5, 5346.5,
5366.5, 5371.5, and 5403.5 kHz. USB is the only
mode allowed on this band.

I think the new frequencies are as follows:
5330.5, 5346.5, 5357.0, 5371.5, and 5403.5 kHz.

reference:
http://www.arrl.org/60m-channel-allocation

TIA
--
GB & 73
K5OAI
Sam Morgan
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Re: [Elecraft] K3 Manual Error? Software error?

[Don Wilhelm]

Lew,

The manual is not correct.  That has been pointed out before and will be 
corrected.


73,
Don W3FPR

On 2/27/2013 5:02 PM, Lewis Phelps wrote:

I recently acquired a Kenwood MC-90 desk mic from a "for sale" list posted here. 
It's a great microphone, but with a VERY low output level.  Even with MIC GAIN cranked all the 
way up to 60, it wouldn't move the ALC indicator unless I literally shouted into it. (Yes, I 
had selected "FP-H on the mic setup.)

Then I found the following in the K3 Operating Manual, page 52:
For the front-panel mic only, tap [3] to turn on an additional gain stage. Use 
this only with very low-output mics. An apostrophe will appear after the H , 
e.g. H ’ .

I rushed to try that.  Result:  "N/A".

Butwhile fiddling around trying to find out why the [3] button wasn't doing 
what it was supposed to do, I more or less accidentally tapped the [7] button, 
and the magic apostrophe appeared after the H.  And most importantly, I now 
have enough amplification for the Kenwood mic to be functional.

It would seem that there are only two explanations for this:

1. The manual is wrong.
2. Bad firmware.

Anybody know which answer is correct?  I have no way to tell.



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Re: [Elecraft] K3 Manual Error? Software error?

[KD8NNU]

I asked this question awhile back as I need to turn off the additional mike 
gain and could not get it to work either.  Elecraft replied that you needed 
to tap the [7] button as you found out and the manual was incorrect.


So I guess we need to request that then get then next version of the manual 
updated.


~73
Don
KD8NNU
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Subject: [Elecraft] K3 Manual Error? Software error?

I recently acquired a Kenwood MC-90 desk mic from a "for sale" list posted 
here. It's a great microphone, but with a VERY low output level.  Even with 
MIC GAIN cranked all the way up to 60, it wouldn't move the ALC indicator 
unless I literally shouted into it. (Yes, I had selected "FP-H on the mic 
setup.)


Then I found the following in the K3 Operating Manual, page 52:
For the front-panel mic only, tap [3] to turn on an additional gain stage. 
Use this only with very low-output mics. An apostrophe will appear after the 
H , e.g. H ’ .


I rushed to try that.  Result:  "N/A".

Butwhile fiddling around trying to find out why the [3] button wasn't 
doing what it was supposed to do, I more or less accidentally tapped the [7] 
button, and the magic apostrophe appeared after the H.  And most 
importantly, I now have enough amplification for the Kenwood mic to be 
functional.


It would seem that there are only two explanations for this:

1. The manual is wrong.
2. Bad firmware.

Anybody know which answer is correct?  I have no way to tell.

Lew N6LEW




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Re: [Elecraft] K3 Manual Error? Software error?

[Jay]

Same thing heresure looks like documentation error

I get a "-" showing up versus a vertical type "apostrophe" after L or H

Jay
W2IJ

- Original Message - 
From: "Lewis Phelps" 

To: 
Sent: Wednesday, February 27, 2013 2:02 PM
Subject: [Elecraft] K3 Manual Error? Software error?


I recently acquired a Kenwood MC-90 desk mic from a "for sale" list posted 
here. It's a great microphone, but with a VERY low output level.  Even with 
MIC GAIN cranked all the way up to 60, it wouldn't move the ALC indicator 
unless I literally shouted into it. (Yes, I had selected "FP-H on the mic 
setup.)


Then I found the following in the K3 Operating Manual, page 52:
For the front-panel mic only, tap [3] to turn on an additional gain stage. 
Use this only with very low-output mics. An apostrophe will appear after the 
H , e.g. H ’ .


I rushed to try that.  Result:  "N/A".

Butwhile fiddling around trying to find out why the [3] button wasn't 
doing what it was supposed to do, I more or less accidentally tapped the [7] 
button, and the magic apostrophe appeared after the H.  And most 
importantly, I now have enough amplification for the Kenwood mic to be 
functional.


It would seem that there are only two explanations for this:

1. The manual is wrong.
2. Bad firmware.

Anybody know which answer is correct?  I have no way to tell.

Lew N6LEW




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[Elecraft] K3 Manual Error? Software error?

[Lewis Phelps]

I recently acquired a Kenwood MC-90 desk mic from a "for sale" list posted 
here. It's a great microphone, but with a VERY low output level.  Even with MIC 
GAIN cranked all the way up to 60, it wouldn't move the ALC indicator unless I 
literally shouted into it. (Yes, I had selected "FP-H on the mic setup.)

Then I found the following in the K3 Operating Manual, page 52:
For the front-panel mic only, tap [3] to turn on an additional gain stage. Use 
this only with very low-output mics. An apostrophe will appear after the H , 
e.g. H ’ .

I rushed to try that.  Result:  "N/A".

Butwhile fiddling around trying to find out why the [3] button wasn't doing 
what it was supposed to do, I more or less accidentally tapped the [7] button, 
and the magic apostrophe appeared after the H.  And most importantly, I now 
have enough amplification for the Kenwood mic to be functional.

It would seem that there are only two explanations for this:

1. The manual is wrong.
2. Bad firmware.

Anybody know which answer is correct?  I have no way to tell.

Lew N6LEW




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[Elecraft] K3 Manual from KE7X

[ke4d]

Got my copy of Fred's K3 manual today.  About halfway through it and I've 
learned some things that I didn't know I didn't know!  Great read, very 
informative as I've read on the reflector from time to time. Certainly a must 
have for K3 owners.

John KE4D
Brackettville, TX
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[Elecraft] The Elecraft K3 Manual by Fred Cady - KE7X

[Roy Morris]

I received my manual today.  It is an impressive reference manual that goes 
beyond the K3 Owner's Manual.  It is 8 1/2 X 11 X 3/4" with 280 pages.  It 
is spiral bound, and the glossy cover reminds me of the cover of a Collins 
manual.  There are plenty of pics and illustrations.  I believe I am going 
to enjoy reading this cover to cover.  Thanks Fred for making this excellent 
manual available to us.  Roy Morris  W4WFB 

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Re: [Elecraft] K3 Manual iTunes

[Bob]

Another goody for Windows users is the free CutePDF Writer.  It installs as a 
printer and
anything you can send to a printer gets "printed" as a PDF file.   Been using 
it 
for years and
has done everything I ever wanted from it.

Here:

http://www.cutepdf.com/products/cutepdf/writer.asp

73,
Bob
K2TK



On 1/6/2011 7:20 PM, Don Wilhelm wrote:
>Those who do not have Mac OS X, try Open Office (free full featured
> Office suite compatible with MS Office).  It will export a document as a
> .pdf with just a click of a button.
>
> 73,
> Don W3FPR
>
> On 1/6/2011 6:59 PM, Kok Chen wrote:
>> If you have some document that is not in PDF form, just print it in
>> Mac OS X, but then select the PDF option (button on bottom left of the
>> print dialog) to create a PDF file, which you can download to the
>> iPad.  You can remove and insert individual PDF pages using
>> Preview.app, so it is easy to merge two manuals, or insert some of
>> your own notes pages into a manual, before downloading them to the iPad.
>>
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Re: [Elecraft] K3 Manual iTunes

[Don Wilhelm]

  Those who do not have Mac OS X, try Open Office (free full featured 
Office suite compatible with MS Office).  It will export a document as a 
.pdf with just a click of a button.

73,
Don W3FPR

On 1/6/2011 6:59 PM, Kok Chen wrote:
>
> If you have some document that is not in PDF form, just print it in
> Mac OS X, but then select the PDF option (button on bottom left of the
> print dialog) to create a PDF file, which you can download to the
> iPad.  You can remove and insert individual PDF pages using
> Preview.app, so it is easy to merge two manuals, or insert some of
> your own notes pages into a manual, before downloading them to the iPad.
>
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Re: [Elecraft] K3 Manual iTunes

[Kok Chen]

On Jan 6, 2011, at 1/63:02 PM, Phil LaMarche wrote:

> Will there be an app soon or the iPad which has a larger screen?

A good way to get K3 documentation onto an iPad is to take the PDF  
files for the K3 Owner's manual, Programmer's Manual and schematics  
from the Elecraft web site and drop them into the Books section of  
iTunes' Library.

You then connect the iPad, navigate into the iPad's Books section in  
iTunes and perform a Sync.

Done.

Your searchable documentation are now in the PDF shelf of iBooks in  
the iPad.   You can magnify the K3 schematics to where you can  
actually read it :-).

I don't use my iPad to surf the web or to read email on -- but it is  
chock full of PDF documents (patents, white papers, manuals,  
schematics).  Much easier than riffling through binders for printed  
documents.

If you have some document that is not in PDF form, just print it in  
Mac OS X, but then select the PDF option (button on bottom left of the  
print dialog) to create a PDF file, which you can download to the  
iPad.  You can remove and insert individual PDF pages using  
Preview.app, so it is easy to merge two manuals, or insert some of  
your own notes pages into a manual, before downloading them to the iPad.

73
Chen, W7AY




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Re: [Elecraft] K3 Manual iTunes

[Michael Downs]

Yes, that is my next project. I will let folks know when the iPad version has 
been released.

On Jan 6, 2011, at 6:02 PM, Phil LaMarche wrote:

> I have installed on my iPhone.  Will there be an app soon or the iPad which
> has a larger screen?
> 
> 
> 
> Phil
> 
> 
> 
> Philip LaMarche
> 
> 
> 
> LaMarche Enterprises, Inc
> 
>  p...@lamarcheenterprises.com
> 
>  www.LaMarcheEnterprises.com 
> 
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> 
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[Elecraft] K3 Manual iTunes

[Phil LaMarche]

I have installed on my iPhone.  Will there be an app soon or the iPad which
has a larger screen?

 

Phil

 

Philip LaMarche

 

LaMarche Enterprises, Inc

  p...@lamarcheenterprises.com

  www.LaMarcheEnterprises.com 

 

727-944-3226

727-937-8834 Fax

727-510-5038 Cell 

 

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[Elecraft] K3 manual

[Sam Bridges]

Hello Guys:
I think the manual for the K3 is excellant. It is concise,explicit and 
-gasp-has an index. I must say that my CW skills have not improved in this last 
month since I got my new K3 (#4770). I have spent most of my time fiddling with 
those great buttons and knobs. I have listen to what this knob will do and 
listening to what that button will do. I have had alot of fun listening to this 
great radio. Yet my Omni 6+ NB on 80m is unbeatable so far. But I may not have 
fiddle enough yet. So more fun waits!
Tnxs Wayne, Eric,et.al. for a fine experience. 73 de KJ4ZM Sam
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[Elecraft] K3 manual

[Erik B. Madsen]

Nakkehoved d.sep. 10. 2009



It took me quite some time to find out that your 1  in 
Tap 1(manual page 60  TX EESB)  means the 

knop with the primary function: A/B ,  the sec. function  B SET 

 and a tertiary function as a numberkey!

Just A/B in parenthesis had been a great help.

All the best  Erik / OZ8EM   K3 owner since yesterday.


Erik B. Madsen  OZ8EM  oz...@c.dk
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Re: [Elecraft] K3 Manual change suggestion

[Dave G4AON]

Mike the RX ant out is the same as those RF in/out phono sockets found
years ago on radios like the Icom IC720A. I use mine to feed a second
receiver (Microtelecom Perseus), if you want to feed a second receiver
you will need a ferrite splitter which is easy to make, there are three
ports, one from the RF out, one back to the K3 and the other to the
second receiver. Details halfway down my K3 page at:

http://www.astromag.co.uk/k3/

73 Dave, G4AON

It is also unclear what the real purpose is for the rx ant out. From what I
have been told if I want to share my rx antennas with the two receivers then
I should use a T or splitter and go to each input separately.

I would think that RX Ant Out would allow you to take the RX antenna to
another rig or something.

If I recall correctly was it to be used for some type of flitering?
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Re: [Elecraft] K3 Manual change suggestion

[Bob Tellefsen]

The RX OUT/RX IN ports allow you to insert
whatever you want in the receive path for the
main rcvr.
It could be a filter, a preamp, an attenuator or
whatever.
73, Bob N6WG

- Original Message - 
From: "W0MU Mike Fatchett" 
To: "'Ken Widelitz'" ; 
Sent: Saturday, March 14, 2009 3:18 PM
Subject: Re: [Elecraft] K3 Manual change suggestion


> It is also unclear what the real purpose is for the rx ant out.  From what 
> I
> have been told if I want to share my rx antennas with the two receivers 
> then
> I should use a T or splitter and go to each input separately.
>
> I would think that RX Ant Out would allow you to take the RX antenna to
> another rig or something.
>
> If I recall correctly was it to be used for some type of flitering?
>
>
> "A slip of the foot you may soon recover, but a slip of the tongue you may
> never get over." Ben Franklin
> -Original Message-
> From: elecraft-boun...@mailman.qth.net
> [mailto:elecraft-boun...@mailman.qth.net] On Behalf Of Ken Widelitz
> Sent: Saturday, March 14, 2009 3:54 PM
> To: elecraft@mailman.qth.net
> Subject: [Elecraft] K3 Manual change suggestion
>
> I've been studying the Main/Sub RX Antenna Routing section with an eye
> towards how the RX ANT OUT is used. Unless I'm missing something, it isn't
> clear in the manual. The answer, YOU NEED TO TURN ON THE RX ANT, is
> contained, in a different context, in the following reflector post from
> Wayne, which should be integrated into the manual.
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
> 73, Ken, K6LA / VY2TT
>
>
>
>
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Re: [Elecraft] K3 Manual change suggestion

[wayne burdick]

RX ANT OUT is useful for several things, including patching in 
narrowband receiving filters, preamps, etc. A longer description can be 
found on page 39 of the most recent owner's manual (rev D).

73,
Wayne
N6KR

On Mar 14, 2009, at 3:18 PM, W0MU Mike Fatchett wrote:

> It is also unclear what the real purpose is for the rx ant out.

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Re: [Elecraft] K3 Manual change suggestion

[W0MU Mike Fatchett]

It is also unclear what the real purpose is for the rx ant out.  From what I
have been told if I want to share my rx antennas with the two receivers then
I should use a T or splitter and go to each input separately.  

I would think that RX Ant Out would allow you to take the RX antenna to
another rig or something.

If I recall correctly was it to be used for some type of flitering? 


"A slip of the foot you may soon recover, but a slip of the tongue you may
never get over." Ben Franklin
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From: elecraft-boun...@mailman.qth.net
[mailto:elecraft-boun...@mailman.qth.net] On Behalf Of Ken Widelitz
Sent: Saturday, March 14, 2009 3:54 PM
To: elecraft@mailman.qth.net
Subject: [Elecraft] K3 Manual change suggestion

I've been studying the Main/Sub RX Antenna Routing section with an eye
towards how the RX ANT OUT is used. Unless I'm missing something, it isn't
clear in the manual. The answer, YOU NEED TO TURN ON THE RX ANT, is
contained, in a different context, in the following reflector post from
Wayne, which should be integrated into the manual. 

 



 

73, Ken, K6LA / VY2TT

 

 


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Re: [Elecraft] K3 Manual change suggestion

[wayne burdick]

I'll certainly try to improve the manual in this regard, Ken. Thanks 
for the suggestion.

73,
Wayne

On Mar 14, 2009, at 2:53 PM, Ken Widelitz wrote:

> I've been studying the Main/Sub RX Antenna Routing section with an eye
> towards how the RX ANT OUT is used. Unless I'm missing something, it 
> isn't
> clear in the manual. The answer, YOU NEED TO TURN ON THE RX ANT...


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[Elecraft] K3 Manual change suggestion

[Ken Widelitz]

I've been studying the Main/Sub RX Antenna Routing section with an eye
towards how the RX ANT OUT is used. Unless I'm missing something, it isn't
clear in the manual. The answer, YOU NEED TO TURN ON THE RX ANT, is
contained, in a different context, in the following reflector post from
Wayne, which should be integrated into the manual. 

 



 

73, Ken, K6LA / VY2TT

 

 

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Re: [Elecraft] K3 manual question

[Don Wilhelm]

Steve,

The manual differs from the schematic, and I would strongly suggest that 
the schematic is correct.  RTS is on pin 7 and DTR is on pin 4 according 
to the schematic.


Second question:  If your computer application puts the FSK data on TxD, 
then yes, you add an RS-232 to TTL conversion stage and feed that output 
to ACC pin 1.  If your application uses DTR for the data line, then you 
would use the DTR signal rather than TxD - I do not know your 
application, you will have to become familiar with how your application 
provides data output.  I do not know of any applications that use 
anything other than TxD for the data.


Third question - I know of no instance where one would want to activate 
either PTT or Keying with the TxD - all application that I have heard 
about use either DTR or RTS.


The K3 does not have a *full* RS-232 interface.  It implements only TxD, 
RxD, RTS, DTR and signal ground.  The computer communications for the K3 
does not use handshaking, only the TxD and RxD lines are used (note that 
one should configure the computer port for handshaking = none) - leaving 
RTS and/or DTR for PTT and Keying purposes.  That is compatible with 
most or even all the ham radio applications that generate PTT and/or 
Keying.  The instructions for the application will tell you whether it 
uses DTR or RTS for keying and/or PTT.  Yes, FSK normally uses TxD, but 
that is not 'keying' in the normal sense - it is 'data'.


73,
Don W3FPR

[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

Hi,
 
Page 18 of my K3 manual shows the breakout for the RS232 connector.   It says 
pin 6 is RTS.  I thought RTS was on pin 7 in the standard DB9  configuration.
 
Second question:  The manual is clear that pin 1 of the Aux I/O  connector is 
for FSK IN.  Does that mean that I run my computer's RS232 pin  3 (txd) or 4 
(dtr) through a NPN level adjuster, or either?
 
Third question:  I am confused because I read (in the manual) that  Config: 
PTT-KEY settings address only OFF or DTR/RTS or RTS/DTR.  No  mention of TXD.  
Does KEY relate only to CW and not FSK/RTTY?
 
Just another non-computer jock trying to keep up.
 
This reflector, Elecraft, and the K3 are just great.
 
73, Steve, K4FJ

 K3/#290
  


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[Elecraft] K3 manual question

[K4FJ]

Hi,
 
Page 18 of my K3 manual shows the breakout for the RS232 connector.   It says 
pin 6 is RTS.  I thought RTS was on pin 7 in the standard DB9  configuration.
 
Second question:  The manual is clear that pin 1 of the Aux I/O  connector is 
for FSK IN.  Does that mean that I run my computer's RS232 pin  3 (txd) or 4 
(dtr) through a NPN level adjuster, or either?
 
Third question:  I am confused because I read (in the manual) that  Config: 
PTT-KEY settings address only OFF or DTR/RTS or RTS/DTR.  No  mention of TXD.  
Does KEY relate only to CW and not FSK/RTTY?
 
Just another non-computer jock trying to keep up.
 
This reflector, Elecraft, and the K3 are just great.
 
73, Steve, K4FJ
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[Elecraft] K3 Manual Updates

[T. David Yarnes]

I haven't followed all of this, so maybe it's already been
said.  But having the document as a PDF file rules out (I
think) being able to neatly "edit" your copy.  If it were in
something like Word, even as an alternative, it would be
easier for each person to update his or her file copy.

Alternatively, manual pages could be updated in much the
same fashion as various professional manuals are updated.
If a page need to be changed, then that page would be
changed accordingly.  Then just the changed page would be
sent out as a page replacement in the manual.  The manual
and the updates could be in PDF of course.  If the change
caused the page to go longer than it did originally, you
would carry over that page to a second page, and give the
added page a page number the same as the page being changed,
but adding a letter or number to differentiate it from the
original and succeeding page.  For example, if page 35 had
to be added to, to the point that more than one page were
necessary to fit in the changes, the overrun would go on
page 35A, or 35-1, or whatever similar system you want to
adopt for revisions.

I like to keep manuals in binders (3 ring type usually)
anyway.  That way I can pull pages out for reference or
copying with ease.  It also makes it a snap to update.

Now if you really want to follow through and do this first
rate, you would have a dated index for all updates.  That
way, someone who is maybe a bit lax about updating can
always check to make sure they have inserted all the
updates.  If not, they can do so and catch up.

I don't mind online manuals, but it would be nice to have
them issued in an organized format like this.  Using the
method described above makes this easily possible.  But if
you just issue errata info, then your manual can get pretty
messy with notes in the margin, etc.

There are lots of ways to do it, but this is one I know
works, and it isn't too difficult to manage.

Dave W7AQK


- Original Message - 
From: "David Cutter" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>

To: "Jerry Keller (K3BZ)" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>;

Sent: Sunday, March 09, 2008 7:15 AM
Subject: Re: [Elecraft] K3 Manual updates



Jerry

I agree.  I'm getting decidedly twitchy (that's a
technical word) about staying up to date.  I know it's not
beyond me, but I might just miss something crucial and
then throw my teddy out of the pram when I do it wrong.

If I print off the changes they can then be cut out and
stuck on top of the offending passage in the printed
manual, (you know: cut and paste) or a whole page replaced
if required.   You have to keep the revision numbers up to
date.

David
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Re: [Elecraft] K3 Manual updates

[David Cutter]

Jerry

I agree.  I'm getting decidedly twitchy (that's a technical word) about 
staying up to date.  I know it's not beyond me, but I might just miss 
something crucial and then throw my teddy out of the pram when I do it 
wrong.


If I print off the changes they can then be cut out and stuck on top of the 
offending passage in the printed manual, (you know: cut and paste) or a 
whole page replaced if required.   You have to keep the revision numbers up 
to date.


David
G3UNA



Downloadable manuals are fine... a good way to stay up to date.  However, 
it shouldn't be necessary to download the entire manual every time a 
change is made.  Any change should be in the form of a series of either 
"added pages" or "changed pages"...with each page dated and numbered, 
perhaps with an alpha-numeric system.  A page numbering system should be 
used that allows added or changed pages to be printed and inserted in the 
user's manual to keep it up-to-date. Changed pages should indicate the 
page number and date that is being replaced.  This may seem cumbersome, 
but if well executed will result in the user being able to maintain an 
accurate, constantly updated paper manual.


There's no reason why this same system cannot be used to maintain an 
on-line, downloadable manual so a user can choose which system to use. 
This also enables a paper-manual user to enter the system and download a 
full-up-to-the-minute manual at any time. Some of us are very 
uncomfortable without a paper manual and are willing to do the work 
necessary to keep one updated.  Others can happily live with an on-line 
manual.  Both deserve to be served, and can be. if Elecraft uses a 
well-designed page numbering system.


73, Jerry K3BZ


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Re: [Elecraft] K3 Manual error

[David Ferrington, M0XDF]

I found that too, but decided to wait until I have the rig before I asked
questions that might be answered by having it in front of me.

Also, KVDR3 will not be available until Nov anyway.


On 11/10/07 17:21, "Ian J Maude" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> sent:

> Hi guys,
> Page 16, Digital Voice/Audio Recorder...
> 
> mentions both page 16 and 26.  There is nothing on page 26 for this
> topic that I can see and I am not sure why the page 16 reference when
> you are on page 16 to begin with :-)
> There is another mention of page 26 in the section below it too.
> 
> Ian

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Re: [Elecraft] K3 Manual error

[Tom Hammond]

Ian:

At 11:21 10/11/2007, Ian J Maude wrote:

Hi guys,
Page 16, Digital Voice/Audio Recorder...

mentions both page 16 and 26.  There is nothing on page 26 for this 
topic that I can see and I am not sure why the page 16 reference 
when you are on page 16 to begin with :-)

There is another mention of page 26 in the section below it too.


That was undoubtedly an error on my part...!

We were inserting the page references late(!) Tuesday evening and 
just as early Wednesday morning, and I caught myself inadvertently 
referring a couple pages back to themselves.


I thought(!) I'd managed to catch and fix the errors, but it looks 
like I allowed one (but hopefully not more) slip in.


I'm sure I'm also to blame for the errant page 26 reference as well, 
but I have NO CLUE why it's there.  Will have to check to see if I 
can find where it SHOULD have referenced, if at all.


THANKS for reporting these errors. We'll use them to clean things up 
once a bit more of the dust settles.


Cheers,

Tom HammondN0SS

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[Elecraft] K3 Manual error

[Ian J Maude]

Hi guys,
Page 16, Digital Voice/Audio Recorder...

mentions both page 16 and 26.  There is nothing on page 26 for this 
topic that I can see and I am not sure why the page 16 reference when 
you are on page 16 to begin with :-)

There is another mention of page 26 in the section below it too.

Ian

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Re: [Elecraft] K3 Manual Question [END of thread]

[Eric Swartz - WA6HHQ, Elecraft]

Let's end this thread for now.

We are shipping printed manuals in the box with every K3.

73, Eric   WA6HHQ
--

Julian G4ILO wrote:

I don't agree. Printing it yourself for most people would take a long
time, cost more than a mass-reproduced manual, use twice as much paper
(most hams don't have office-type printers that will print on both
sides) and not be bound.
  

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Re: [Elecraft] K3 Manual Question

[N2EY]

In a message dated 10/11/07 4:20:00 AM Eastern Daylight Time, 
[EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:


> (most hams don't have office-type printers that will print on both
> sides)

I don't know any printer that won't print on both sides. Of course it may 
take two passes through the printer,  but that's why the printing dialog box 
allows you to select only the even-numbered pages or only the odd numbered 
pages.

73 de Jim, N2EY


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Re: [Elecraft] K3 Manual Question

[Julian G4ILO]

I don't agree. Printing it yourself for most people would take a long
time, cost more than a mass-reproduced manual, use twice as much paper
(most hams don't have office-type printers that will print on both
sides) and not be bound.

Nor would updating be any easier unless the manual was structured with
a lot more white space because any additions would push text on to the
next page. So you'd probably have to reprint the whole section from
the amendment onward.

Providing manuals only in electronic form is a cheapskate option that
just passes the cost and bother of creating a printed copy on to the
consumer.
-- 
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On 10/11/07, Bill W5WVO <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:

> Most end users who want a paper manual would choose the option of printing it
> themselves on ordinary printer paper. If the manuals and updates were designed
> as I described in my previous post, they would lend themselves exceptionally
> well to home printing and loose-leaf binding. The user wouldn't have to print
> out a whole new manual every time there's an update. Those who care to could
> keep their manuals up-to-date elegantly and with a minimum of fuss; those who
> don't care to would never be bothered.
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Re: [Elecraft] K3 Manual Question

[Julian G4ILO]

I'm glad you're not in charge, then.:) Some (many?) of us only have
cheap, slow home inkjet printers that use very expensive ink
cartridges and it would take a long time and be prohibitively
expensive to print off a manual. And I don't want to turn on a
computer every time I want to look up something in the manual.

Perhaps in the cities there are places that will print a PDF at
reasonable cost, but I have never come across a service that will do
that here in the UK.

Perhaps the answer would be to make the printed manual an extra cost
option. Then those who don't want it don't have to pay for it and
those who care about having the latest version could order up a new
one whenever they want.
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On 10/10/07, Craig Rairdin <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>
> If I was in charge I would provide an electronic manual supplemented by a
> thorough quick-reference booklet like the ones from
> www.niftyaccessories.com. Users could print the manual if they wanted, but
> otherwise I wouldn't have killed as many trees, Al Gore would be happy, and
> we'd save $10/unit sold over distributing a seldom-read manual.
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[Elecraft] K3 Manual

[k4zm]

Eric and Wayne

Thanks to my HP P2015d Laser printer with duplexer I now have a printed and 
bound copy of the K3 Manual and Schematics.  I even printed a color copy of the 
front page on my HP Photosmart 7350 for the insert on the front of the 
binder...   Very nicely done manual and only took about 20 minutes to print it.

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[Elecraft] [K3] Manual etc

[David Ferrington, M0XDF]

So many questions I want to ask, does this mean it does that etc - but
I'll wait until I get the kit and its built. Being in the UK, I would guess
there will be quite a few out in the US before mine arrives - np with that.

Did I ever say just how pleased I am that Elecraft sell direct to the UK and
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Re: [Elecraft] K3 Manual Question

[Bill W5WVO]

Craig, we're really not that far apart here.


It's prohibitively expensive and adds significant complications for
the manufacturer, who has to maintain revision information per-page.


Maintaining revision information for updated pages is trivial. Adobe 
FrameMaker makes this easy even without using XML tags. I won't bore everyone 
with inside-baseball details here, but believe me, it's a no-brainer, takes 
almost no time, and costs nothing extra. The tools are there. (No, not MS 
Word. Anybody who is still trying to use MS Word for large, evolving sets of 
complex technical documents either isn't really serious about technical 
documentation to begin with, or is, um, alarmingly underinformed.  :-)



The solution of offering a downloadable PDF of the manual is simpler
for the manufacturer . . . Users could print the manual if they
wanted, but otherwise I wouldn't have killed as many trees, Al Gore
would be happy, and we'd save $10/unit sold over distributing a
seldom-read manual.


I agree! It does cost less not to publish paper manuals. As a tech writer for 
a major Silicon Valley semiconductor company, I put out thousands of pages of 
PDF documents a year that are never printed on paper. What I'm saying is not 
that manuals necessarily have to be printed on paper by the manufacturer, but 
rather that adopting a different documentation paradigm  (a) would cost no 
more than the current process, and  (b) might well be more attractive to many 
end users than the current process.


I'm suggesting that it makes sense to structure ham radio manuals more like 
military radio manuals, and adopt a similar upgrading scheme. Whether you do 
this on paper, on a CD-ROM, as downloadable files, or as a combination of all 
of these doesn't really matter. Documentation downloads from the website and 
CD-ROMs shipped with the radio would be free, but CD-ROMs ordered separately 
from the radio would be charged for, as would any paper documentation (whole 
manuals and updates) printed and shipped by the manufacturer. It could be 
preprinted and inventoried or, since it doesn't have to be bound, produced 
in-house as ordered. The saved cost of binding could be used to cover the 
additional cost of edge-reinforced punched stock, if desired.


Most end users who want a paper manual would choose the option of printing it 
themselves on ordinary printer paper. If the manuals and updates were designed 
as I described in my previous post, they would lend themselves exceptionally 
well to home printing and loose-leaf binding. The user wouldn't have to print 
out a whole new manual every time there's an update. Those who care to could 
keep their manuals up-to-date elegantly and with a minimum of fuss; those who 
don't care to would never be bothered.


Bill / W5WVO 


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Re: [Elecraft] K3 Manual Question

[N2EY]

In a message dated 10/10/07 5:50:41 PM Eastern Daylight Time, 
[EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:


> What's wrong with doing it that way? There must be something wrong with it, 
> 
> because nobody in the ham world is doing it. Would most hams not like such a 
> 
> manual scheme? I sure would.
> 

In my work, things like standard plans, timetables and rule books are often 
done that way. 

When you have a big book that is frequently revised, and is in the hands of 
many people, it makes sense, because the cost of sending everyone a complete 
new book is much more than the cost of keeping page-by-page revision info.

The big downside is that there must be absolute discipline in keeping the 
books up to-date. An old timetable can be worse than none at all. 

But in the amateur radio market, the revisions are few and the numbers small. 
Keeping track of updates is a lot of administrative work. 

It seems to me that having the manuals and revisions on the website is the 
best way to go. That way, anyone can see them.

73 de Jim, N2EY




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RE: [Elecraft] K3 Manual Question

[Craig Rairdin]

> What's wrong with doing it that way? There must be something wrong with 
> it, because nobody in the ham world is doing it. Would most hams not 
> like such a manual scheme? I sure would.

It's prohibitively expensive and adds significant complications for the
manufacturer, who has to maintain revision information per-page. The
solution of offering a downloadable PDF of the manual is simpler for the
manufacturer and solves the problem for the relatively small number of
people who care about having the very latest software rev and manual.

If I was in charge I would provide an electronic manual supplemented by a
thorough quick-reference booklet like the ones from
www.niftyaccessories.com. Users could print the manual if they wanted, but
otherwise I wouldn't have killed as many trees, Al Gore would be happy, and
we'd save $10/unit sold over distributing a seldom-read manual.

Craig
NZ0R
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balance waiting to see a charge 
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Re: [Elecraft] K3 Manual Question

[Bill W5WVO]

Craig D. Smith wrote:


I guess the options would be . . . making
the pages replaceable individually in some
kind of attractive and convenient sized
binder system.  Any thoughts?


Yeah. That, what you said.  :-)

The manuals I've obtained for some of my boatanchor (military) equipment are 
loose-leaf, three-ring punched. This scheme makes a lot of sense for any 
evolving entity that needs to be documented.


When there is a change, pages are simply deleted, replaced, and/or added. The 
page numbering system uses military-style paragraph reference numbering rather 
than serial numbering, so added pages don't change the numbering of the 
existing pages unless new sections are added (and then you would just replace 
the remainder of the chapter). You can make such pages just as attractive as 
pages in any other kind of binding, and you could ship the pages as a block of 
unbound paper, with the user supplying a binder of his choice obtainable from 
any office supply store. You could use paper with a plastic-reinforced edge so 
the three-hole binding wouldn't tear out. Updates could be shipped in a 
regular-size manilla envelope with a reinforcing cardboard sheet.


What's wrong with doing it that way? There must be something wrong with it, 
because nobody in the ham world is doing it. Would most hams not like such a 
manual scheme? I sure would.


Bill / W5WVO



   73
   ... Craig  AC0DS


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[Elecraft] K3 Manual Question

[Craig D. Smith]

Great news on the K3 manual being put up on the website sometime this week.
I know it will be excellent based on my experience with the K1 and K2
manuals.  But it prompts me to ask a question I've been wondering about
lately.

How does Elecraft plan to handle updates to the manual so that it keeps
current with new firmware releases?  Certainly the pdf can be kept
up-to-date, but how about the printed version?  It is nice to have a high
quality printed version, and I wouldn't mind paying a reasonable amount to
keep my printed operating manual up-to-date.  I guess the options would be
reprinting the entire manual or maybe making the pages replaceable
individually in some kind of attractive and convenient sized binder system.
Any thoughts?

73
... Craig  AC0DS


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Re: [Elecraft] K3 Manual and updated Assembly Manual?

[Thom LaCosta]

On Fri, 5 Oct 2007 [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:



Wouldn't it be nice if the manuals were posted today?  If the K3 is just 
about ready to ship

then the manuals should be ready also!


Being in the first batch...I really hope if there is a time crunch, Aptos 
decides to pack and ship mine before they take the time to post manuals.


Yea, I know...I'm self centered...but I paid a deposit to get a rig early, not 
an online manual, which I can't use to contact anyone.


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[Elecraft] K3 Manual and updated Assembly Manual?

[n2zdb]

Wouldn't it be nice if the manuals were posted today?  If the K3 is 
just about ready to ship

then the manuals should be ready also!

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[Elecraft] K3 Manual in 7 - 10 days

[N2ZDB]

Well it is the 10 th day nowhas anyone seen the manual:(
 
Sorry about the one liner!
 
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[Elecraft] K3 Manual

[J F]

Wayne,

That would be a PS kit right?? ;o)

Just took a quick look through the manual. It's going
to be fun!

Cheers,
Julius
n2wn

"We also plan to offer an external, front-facing
speaker in the future, possibly with an optional power supply."
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Re: [Elecraft] K3 manual

[n2ey]

-Original Message-
From: Brett gazdzinski <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>


Looking at the manual, it looks like building the K3 is going
to be really fun!


Just like every other Elecraft product.


I think you get the really fun part of building, without the endless
soldering in of .01 caps and so on


Hey! I like soldering!


I always liked the winding and mounting of toroids, mounting
of the chips and transistors and other parts, only the (seemingly) 

endless

installation of caps and resistors got old after an hour or two...


I always found it relaxing. But then I like to line up all the color 
codes and capacitor labels up the same way, too



The only thing that bugs me is it looks from the pictures like
the K3 uses the same (no fidelity) speaker as the K2.


Simple fix: External speaker.


Wonderful, like old heathkits, that you can take the entire radio
apart to fix a problem easy, any problem, and have instructions on
how to do so.


Just like every other Elecraft product.

And you'll be able to get factory-direct parts and technical support.


It looks like there is a lot of extra room inside the K3, unlike
any of the other brand rigs.


None of that is "extra" room. It's all there for a reason.

You watch - there will be some neat stuff for that space. The folks at 
Elecraft probably haven't even thought some of it up yet.


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Re: [Elecraft] K3 manual

[David Pratt]

In a recent message, Brett gazdzinski 
<[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote ...

The only thing that bugs me is it looks from the pictures like
the K3 uses the same (no fidelity) speaker as the K2.


There's nothing wrong with the K2 speaker, Brett. Mine seems ideal for 
communications purposes. You can always plug in your hi-fi speaker if 
you want to use ESSB.


Provided the K3 speaker is not as bad as the one in the K1, it'll do for 
me.


73
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Re: [Elecraft] K3 manual

[Bill NY9H]

 Brett i wrote:

he only thing that bugs me is it looks from the pictures like
the K3 uses the same (no fidelity) speaker as the K2.


( love that name Brett same as my own boy !!)

as far as "NO FIDELITY"  same as K2 speaker...
that speaker plays VERY loud for little input...good choice.

Not to deprive anyone, there are line out jacks for the  MacIntosh 
power amp and JBL Paragon if you want more punch & bottom end.

http://www.audioheritage.org/html/profiles/jbl/paragon.htm

did you know JBL  made a K2 also,
http://www.audioheritage.org/html/profiles/jbl/k2.htm

ken will like these pictures 


tick  tick tick

bill


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[Elecraft] K3 manual

[Brett gazdzinski]

Looking at the manual, it looks like building the K3 is going
to be really fun!

I think you get the really fun part of building, without the endless
soldering in of .01 caps and so on

I always liked the winding and mounting of toroids, mounting
of the chips and transistors and other parts, only the (seemingly) endless
installation of caps and resistors got old after an hour or two...

The only thing that bugs me is it looks from the pictures like
the K3 uses the same (no fidelity) speaker as the K2.

Wonderful, like old heathkits, that you can take the entire radio
apart to fix a problem easy, any problem, and have instructions on
how to do so.

It looks like there is a lot of extra room inside the K3, unlike
any of the other brand rigs.


 


Brett
N2DTS
 

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[Elecraft] K3 Manual questions

[DOUGLAS ZWIEBEL]

Nice.

1.  Who gets credit for their fingers on page 24?

2.  Page 10 sez we need a dummy load...but does not specify a power
leveluntil you hit page 49.  You may want to add "at least 5 watt
dummy load" to page 10.

I'd love to read this all now, but I'm at work and this is not a task
for today.  :-)

de Doug KR2Q
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RE: [Elecraft] K3 Manual....where is it???

[Craig Rairdin]

> Darn, you guys are fast! Were you repeatedly hitting refresh until  
> the link was added to the K3 page? ;-)
> Eric

Check your logs... I was guessing at file names and trying to log into the
site using FTP with various "guest" accounts/passwords so I could view the
K3 directory when I noticed that the link was on the K3 page. It wasn't as
satisfying to just click on the link, but it got the job done.

BTW your FTP server seems reasonably secure. :-)

Craig
NZ0R

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[Elecraft] K3 Manual....where is it???

[Don Rasmussen]

To some that will sit in front of (your) radio for
18-24 hours at a stretch k5xy 59Cal, k3xy 59Cal
etc...,
you think hitting F5 a couple times after the birdy
alert is excessive? ;-)

Thanks for making the push for the people, lots of
hard work and good faith in Aptos. 

[Elecraft] K3 Manualwhere is it???
Eric Swartz - WA6HHQ, Elecraft eric at ele.com 
Tue Sep 11 00:17:42 EDT 2007 



Darn, you guys are fast! Were you repeatedly hitting
refresh until the 
link was added to the K3 page? ;-)
Eric


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Re: [Elecraft] K3 Manual....where is it???

[Lee (WW2DX)]

Are you kidding! We all have scripts that check every 60 seconds for  
a html change and then the pagers go off!


Cheers!

Lee
WW2DX


On Sep 11, 2007, at 12:17 AM, Eric Swartz - WA6HHQ, Elecraft wrote:

Darn, you guys are fast! Were you repeatedly hitting refresh until  
the link was added to the K3 page? ;-)

Eric

Craig Rairdin wrote:

Got it!

Craig
NZ0R

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Sent: Monday, September 10, 2007 11:05 PM
To: Elecraft
Subject: [Elecraft] K3 Manualwhere is it???




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Re: [Elecraft] K3 Manual....where is it???

[Eric Swartz - WA6HHQ, Elecraft]

Darn, you guys are fast! Were you repeatedly hitting refresh until the 
link was added to the K3 page? ;-)

Eric

Craig Rairdin wrote:

Got it!

Craig
NZ0R

-Original Message-
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Sent: Monday, September 10, 2007 11:05 PM
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Subject: [Elecraft] K3 Manualwhere is it???


  

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[Elecraft] K3 Manual

[Don Rasmussen]

It's there!

Just picked it up.

Smart bird after all...
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Re: [Elecraft] K3 Manual....where is it???

[hank k8dd]

It's there!
2.9 Mb of PDF!




Don Rasmussen wrote:

Yeah, I know that little bird, he works for the "other
side", a fantastic liar, don't believe a word he says.
And remember, to a bird, talk is cheep. 




A birdie said it'd be along about 9-ish PDT. The slow,
lazy engineering writer helping Wayne didn't get the
draft to him until dinner time and then...

Ron AC7AC


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RE: [Elecraft] K3 Manual....where is it???

[Craig Rairdin]

Got it!

Craig
NZ0R

-Original Message-
From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Don Rasmussen
Sent: Monday, September 10, 2007 11:05 PM
To: Elecraft
Subject: [Elecraft] K3 Manualwhere is it???


Yeah, I know that little bird, he works for the "other
side", a fantastic liar, don't believe a word he says.
And remember, to a bird, talk is cheep. 




A birdie said it'd be along about 9-ish PDT. The slow,
lazy engineering writer helping Wayne didn't get the
draft to him until dinner time and then...

Ron AC7AC


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[Elecraft] K3 Manual....where is it???

[Don Rasmussen]

Yeah, I know that little bird, he works for the "other
side", a fantastic liar, don't believe a word he says.
And remember, to a bird, talk is cheep. 



A birdie said it'd be along about 9-ish PDT. The slow,
lazy engineering writer helping Wayne didn't get the
draft to him until dinner time and then...

Ron AC7AC


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RE: [Elecraft] K3 Manual....where is it???

[Ron D'Eau Claire]

A birdie said it'd be along about 9-ish PDT. The slow, lazy engineering
writer helping Wayne didn't get the draft to him until dinner time and
then...

Ron AC7AC

-Original Message-
From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Don Rasmussen
Sent: Monday, September 10, 2007 7:57 PM
To: Elecraft
Subject: [Elecraft] K3 Manualwhere is it??? 


Didn't Campbells have a commercial "is it Soup yet?".

Orson Wells "Paul Masson will serve no wine before
it's time"

Zenith "The quality goes in before the name goes on"

My favorite 
Bart Simpson 

"are we there yet?"
"are we there yet?"
"are we there yet?"
"are we there yet?"
"are we there yet?"

;-)




It'll be posted very soon.

73,
Wayne
N6KR


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[Elecraft] K3 Manual....where is it???

[Don Rasmussen]

Didn't Campbells have a commercial "is it Soup yet?".

Orson Wells "Paul Masson will serve no wine before
it's time"

Zenith "The quality goes in before the name goes on"

My favorite 
Bart Simpson 

"are we there yet?"
"are we there yet?"
"are we there yet?"
"are we there yet?"
"are we there yet?"

;-)



It'll be posted very soon.

73,
Wayne
N6KR


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Re: [Elecraft] K3 Manual....where is it???

[Dave Martin]

On 9/10/07, [EMAIL PROTECTED] <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> Does anyone have a secret link to it?
> Don't tell me it is going to be delayed again!
>
> Michael
> N2ZDB

Yep, I'm anxious to see it, too.  But I'm glad it's not me having to
finish up a jillion page pdf document with one hand while putting out
numerous fires with the other hand.

But when we do see it that'll keep us busy for a while.  That's half
the fun, reading up on everything.

Dave  W5DHM
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[Elecraft] K3 Manual....where is it???

[n2zdb]

Does anyone have a secret link to it?
Don't tell me it is going to be delayed again!

Michael
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Re: [Elecraft] K3 manual for download???

[Chris]

Come on guys. This is getting ridiculous. Just leave to get on with the job.

Chris G3SJJ



[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
Is it available yet for download?? If not does anyone have an idea 
when it will be?


If the unit ships in less then a week you wouid think it would be 
available even if it is a "beta" version.


Michael
N2ZDB

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[Elecraft] K3 manual for download???

[n2zdb]

Is it available yet for download?? If not does anyone have an idea when 
it will be?


If the unit ships in less then a week you wouid think it would be 
available even if it is a "beta" version.


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[Elecraft] K3 manual

[Don Rasmussen]

"I find that only by reading the manual can you make
informed decisions about the purchase of complex
technology."
-

Complex Decision vs. I want it

Complex Decision vs. I want it

Complex Decision vs. I want it I want it

Complex Decision vs. I want it I want it

Complex Decision vs. I want it I want it

Complex Decision vs. I want it I want it I want it

Complex Decision vs. I want it I want it I want it

Complex Decision vs. I want it I want it I want it

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Looks good on paper to me!



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RE: [Elecraft] K3 manual

[J. Edward (Ed) Muns]

> Will the K3 instruction manual have appropriately placed 
> sidebars or cross references for installation of optional 
> accessories at the time of original build, or will the 
> assembler have to cross reference accessory manuals his or herself?

That is the intent.  Doing so will avoid a few cases of partial disassembly
to install an option.  For example, the KAT3 adds a second SO239 on the rear
panel and is easy to install when you install the first SO239.  It can be
added later, after the radio is assembled, but then requires a bit of
disassembly, like the side panel to facilitate adding the second SO239.

73,
Ed - W0YK

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Re: [Elecraft] K3 manual

[David Woolley]

[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

Will the K3 instruction manual have appropriately placed
sidebars or cross references for installation of optional
accessories at the time of original build, or will the
assembler have to cross reference accessory manuals his or
herself?


As I understand it, that isn't really a meaningful question for the K3, 
as it is already factory assembled to beyond the point at which this is 
an issue for the K2.


(On the other hand, if I were in the market for the K3, at the moment, I 
would want to  wait for the manual before I ordered, as I find that only 
by reading the manual can you make informed decisions about the purchase 
of complex technology.)



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[Elecraft] K3 manual

[adamkern]

Will the K3 instruction manual have appropriately placed
sidebars or cross references for installation of optional
accessories at the time of original build, or will the
assembler have to cross reference accessory manuals his or
herself?

N1KO
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RE: [Elecraft] K3 manual, schematic?

[Greg]

The manual and schematic will not be available until the radios are ready to
ship.  This will allow for the most accurate manual to include any
last-minute firmware/feature changes.




73,
Greg - AB7R
Whidbey Island WA



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Subject: [Elecraft] K3 manual, schematic?


Anyone have any word as to when the manual will be available for download?
Not sure if I missed a possible announcement of this...

John Harper AE5X
http://www.ae5x.com




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[Elecraft] K3 manual, schematic?

[John Harper]

Anyone have any word as to when the manual will be available for download? 
Not sure if I missed a possible announcement of this...


John Harper AE5X
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RE: [Elecraft] K3 Manual(s) and circuit diagrams ?

[Stan Rife]

I asked them about this and the response they sent me was, "it will be
available when the radios start shipping". 

Stan Rife
W5EWA
Houston, TX
K2 S/N 4216

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--- [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

> > Are K3 Manual(s)and circuit diagrams going to be
> made
> > available in electronic format?
> 
> It's taking longer than hoped but according to
> Wayne: Yes.

Thanks for your prompt reply.

I missed Wayne's note.
I am sure it does take some time to produce the
quality manuals as we know covers Elecraft products.
I am very curious about the circuit diagrams...

73

Gian
I7SWX
 
>
==
> To:   "Jerry T. Dowell" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> Subject:  [Elecraft] Re: K3 Manual
> From: wayne burdick <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> Date: Sun, 29 Apr 2007 09:28:47 -0700
> Cc:   elecraft@mailman.qth.net
> 
> Hi Jerry,
> 
> 
> The Owner's manual is about half-finished and will
> be put on-line when we feel
> that it's ready. I'm guessing around the end of May.
> 
> 73,
> Wayne
> N6KR
>
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> 



   


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Re: [Elecraft] K3 Manual(s) and circuit diagrams ?

[Giancarlo Moda]

--- [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

> > Are K3 Manual(s)and circuit diagrams going to be
> made
> > available in electronic format?
> 
> It's taking longer than hoped but according to
> Wayne: Yes.

Thanks for your prompt reply.

I missed Wayne's note.
I am sure it does take some time to produce the
quality manuals as we know covers Elecraft products.
I am very curious about the circuit diagrams...

73

Gian
I7SWX
 
>
==
> To:   "Jerry T. Dowell" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> Subject:  [Elecraft] Re: K3 Manual
> From: wayne burdick <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> Date: Sun, 29 Apr 2007 09:28:47 -0700
> Cc:   elecraft@mailman.qth.net
> 
> Hi Jerry,
> 
> 
> The Owner's manual is about half-finished and will
> be put on-line when we feel
> that it's ready. I'm guessing around the end of May.
> 
> 73,
> Wayne
> N6KR
>
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Re: [Elecraft] K3 Manual(s) and circuit diagrams ?

[dj7mgq]

> Are K3 Manual(s)and circuit diagrams going to be made
> available in electronic format?

It's taking longer than hoped but according to Wayne: Yes.

==
To: "Jerry T. Dowell" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject:[Elecraft] Re: K3 Manual
From:   wayne burdick <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Date:   Sun, 29 Apr 2007 09:28:47 -0700
Cc: elecraft@mailman.qth.net

Hi Jerry,


The Owner's manual is about half-finished and will be put on-line when we feel
that it's ready. I'm guessing around the end of May.

73,
Wayne
N6KR
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[Elecraft] K3 Manual(s) and circuit diagrams ?

[Giancarlo Moda]

Hi,

Are K3 Manual(s)and circuit diagrams going to be made
available in electronic format?

I am sure many members of this newsgroup will
appreciate it.

Best 73

Gian
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[Elecraft] K3 Manual ETA

[N2ZDB]

Does anyone know what the current ETA of the K3 manual is?
 
Thanks,
 
Michael
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Re: [Elecraft] K3 manual

[Stan Rife]

Eric, when will the manual for the K3 be available for downloading.
   
  Stan Rife
  W5EWA
  

"Eric Swartz - WA6HHQ, Elecraft" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
  Rounding error... ;-)

73, Eric WA6HHQ


Bernard Gaffney, N8PVZ/QRP wrote:
> Has anyone besides me noticed that if you order the
> K3/10 ($1,399) and the KPA3 ($349) you'll save $1 over
> the price of ordering the K3/100 ($1,749), and have
> the same thing? Do the math.
>
> But, hey, I splurged and bought the K3/100.
>
> 72 de N8PVZ
> ---bernie gaffney
> 

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[Elecraft] K3 Manual

[Jerry T. Dowell]

Are there any plans to immediately put the K3 manual on the website for
download? Lacking any specific performance information, the manual would
help us understand the design and make a decision on whether to purchase a
K3 before test results, complete details, etc are available.

Jerry  AI6L


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