[Elecraft] KX3 Dual Watch
Good morning, The KX3 has a nice Dual Watch feature. It is however, of limited use when the DX is weak and the callers are strong (a common case here). To overcome this problem I have build a simple two channels audio amplifier with 2 LM380N (Manhattan style) with independent volumn controls. I can Independently boost the VFO A signal in one channel and reduce the VFO B in the other Channel. But some VFO A signal seems to leak into the VFO B channel and visa versa. I can not observe any signal leakage when using an audio generator as test input. Has anyone observed something similar? Does the KX3 Dual Watch feature only offer a limited channel separation or have I wired my amplifier wrongly? Thank you in advance. 73 OZ7BQ Hans Jørgen Sendt fra min iPhone __ Elecraft mailing list Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm Post: mailto:Elecraft@mailman.qth.net This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html Message delivered to arch...@mail-archive.com
Re: [Elecraft] Elecraft KX3: Dual Watch or Split - newbie Dave needs help!
Dave, I don't know how you are hearing both VFO frequencies at the same time with only SPLIT engaged (unless you have Dual Watch turned on at the same time). With split (and not Dual Watch), you have VFO A in both ears. If you use the REV button, you can hear on the VFO B frequency (again in both ears). You do not hear both at once. You can swap the VFOs with the A/B button. Without SPLIT, transmit will be on VFO A, but with SPLIT turned on, transmit will be on VFO B - observe the direction the arrow is pointing on the display to see which VFO will be used for transmit. If you turn on Dual Watch, you will hear both VFOs as long as they are not separated by more than +/- 15 kHz. You may or may not want to use SPLIT in conjunction with Dual Watch - usually you would want to use SPLIT, but not necessarily - say you want to use VFO B to scour around the band area while carrying on a non-split QSO on the VFO A frequency. 73, Don W3FPR On 3/22/2014 2:02 PM, Esquer Dave wrote: Hello folks, Newbie Dave, K6WDE/KH6 with my Elecraft KX3. Question: Dual Watch versus Split Mode, which is best? Is is personal preference? Yes, I did read the Elecraft Operating Note - Working a Pile-Up using the Dual Watch feature on the KX3 article. I am still confused though. As I understand it, for: SPLIT Split has a wider range of frequencies to utilize beyond the +/- 15kHz limitation of Dual Watch. VFO A (DX station) on the left and VFO B (calling station, me) on the right headphone. DUAL WATCH VFO A (DX station) on the right and VFO B (me) on the left headphone. Easier to tune up and down with the big tuning knob as I try to catch the DX station (instead of the little tuning knob). I must be missing something. I’ve used Split quite successfully and tried Dual Watch but they just seem to be the reverse of each other. When running a KX3, I need all the help when attempting to break through the pileups (especially here on the island)! __ Elecraft mailing list Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm Post: mailto:Elecraft@mailman.qth.net This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html Message delivered to arch...@mail-archive.com
Re: [Elecraft] Elecraft KX3: Dual Watch or Split - newbie Dave needs help!
Hi Dave - When I'm trying to get a DX station that is working split or during the QRP Fox hunts, I use Dual Watch and Split together. Before engaging, I tune in the "target" station to suit my hearing pitch preference, then I press A-->B twice to get both VFO's equal. Next I hit Split and then Dual Watch. Using the small tuning knob, I tune VFO-B up to a point where I want to transmit - either on the frequency of the guy currently being worked, or into a "hole" where there are few strong signals present. I can hear the DX / Fox station in my left headphone and the "pack" in the right ear. I also use NaP3 as a visual display to actually "see" where the pack is operating - helps a lot! Jim / W6JHB On Saturday, Mar 22, 2014, at Saturday, 11:02 AM, Esquer Dave wrote: > Hello folks, > Newbie Dave, K6WDE/KH6 with my Elecraft KX3. > > Question: Dual Watch versus Split Mode, which is best? Is is personal > preference? Yes, I did read the Elecraft Operating Note - Working a Pile-Up > using the Dual Watch feature on the KX3 article. I am still confused though. > > As I understand it, for: > SPLIT > Split has a wider range of frequencies to utilize beyond the +/- 15kHz > limitation of Dual Watch. > VFO A (DX station) on the left and VFO B (calling station, me) on the right > headphone. > > DUAL WATCH > VFO A (DX station) on the right and VFO B (me) on the left headphone. > Easier to tune up and down with the big tuning knob as I try to catch the DX > station (instead of the little tuning knob). > > I must be missing something. I’ve used Split quite successfully and tried > Dual Watch but they just seem to be the reverse of each other. When running a > KX3, I need all the help when attempting to break through the pileups > (especially here on the island)! > > Aloha, > > More static, more of the time … > > Dave Esquer, K6WDE > dave.esq...@gmail.com > http://www.qrz.com/db/K6WDE > > > __ > Elecraft mailing list > Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft > Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm > Post: mailto:Elecraft@mailman.qth.net > > This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net > Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html > Message delivered to w6...@me.com __ Elecraft mailing list Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm Post: mailto:Elecraft@mailman.qth.net This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html Message delivered to arch...@mail-archive.com
[Elecraft] Elecraft KX3: Dual Watch or Split - newbie Dave needs help!
Hello folks, Newbie Dave, K6WDE/KH6 with my Elecraft KX3. Question: Dual Watch versus Split Mode, which is best? Is is personal preference? Yes, I did read the Elecraft Operating Note - Working a Pile-Up using the Dual Watch feature on the KX3 article. I am still confused though. As I understand it, for: SPLIT Split has a wider range of frequencies to utilize beyond the +/- 15kHz limitation of Dual Watch. VFO A (DX station) on the left and VFO B (calling station, me) on the right headphone. DUAL WATCH VFO A (DX station) on the right and VFO B (me) on the left headphone. Easier to tune up and down with the big tuning knob as I try to catch the DX station (instead of the little tuning knob). I must be missing something. I’ve used Split quite successfully and tried Dual Watch but they just seem to be the reverse of each other. When running a KX3, I need all the help when attempting to break through the pileups (especially here on the island)! Aloha, More static, more of the time … Dave Esquer, K6WDE dave.esq...@gmail.com http://www.qrz.com/db/K6WDE __ Elecraft mailing list Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm Post: mailto:Elecraft@mailman.qth.net This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html Message delivered to arch...@mail-archive.com
Re: [Elecraft] KX3 Dual Watch Audio Balance question / feature request
No way to do this at present, Andreas. However, you might try setting the AGC threshold to 4, which will flatten large signals more in relation to weak ones. Wayne N6KR On Nov 8, 2013, at 12:07 PM, Andreas Junge wrote: > OK, so, I just got a KX3 and I think I am a bit spoiled by the K3 feature set > :-) > > Is there a way to balance the audio between the two VFO’s when using Dual > Watch? I often have the problem that the DX is really weak and the pile up is > really loud. > > On the K3 there is an audio mixer control which I absolutely love and a > balance control for left and right. > > I could use an external headphone amp to do that, but I though it wouldn’t > hurt to ask. > > 73, Andreas, N6NU > __ > Elecraft mailing list > Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft > Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm > Post: mailto:Elecraft@mailman.qth.net > > This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net > Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html __ Elecraft mailing list Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm Post: mailto:Elecraft@mailman.qth.net This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html
[Elecraft] KX3 Dual Watch Audio Balance question / feature request
OK, so, I just got a KX3 and I think I am a bit spoiled by the K3 feature set :-) Is there a way to balance the audio between the two VFO’s when using Dual Watch? I often have the problem that the DX is really weak and the pile up is really loud. On the K3 there is an audio mixer control which I absolutely love and a balance control for left and right. I could use an external headphone amp to do that, but I though it wouldn’t hurt to ask. 73, Andreas, N6NU __ Elecraft mailing list Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm Post: mailto:Elecraft@mailman.qth.net This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html
Re: [Elecraft] KX3 dual-watch working (ahead of schedule!)
the big difference with using the VE7CC pgm to access the VE7CC cluster or using DXLabs spot collector to access the VE7CC cluster With VE&CC pgm if you click on a spot which has a split info entered in the comment field in VE7CC the K3 will change VFO A to the spotted frequency but does not change the K3's VFO B to the split frequency nor does it place the K3 into split operations if you are using DXLabs spotcollector and commander and click on that same spot the K3 shifts the VFO A to the DX frequency it also changes the VFO B to the split frequency and places the K3 into split operation also if you have the 2nd receiver installed VFO B is also placed in sub hope I said all that correctly GB & 73 K5OAI Sam Morgan On 3/9/2012 2:55 PM, Jim McDonald wrote: > I agree and wanted to mention that you can choose any telnet cluster in the > Configuration-->Cluster (Telnet) list. I prefer a node that uses VE7CC's > node software, CC Cluster. Telnet clusters are much more configurable than > web clusters and send spots real-time rather that at pre-set intervals. > > I use CC User to feed the DXLab Suite, http://www.dxlabsuite.com/ , but CC > User used standalone can interface with a K3 (it's in the Port Setup > window). > > http://www.ve7cc.net/ > > 73, Jim N7US __ Elecraft mailing list Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm Post: mailto:Elecraft@mailman.qth.net This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html
Re: [Elecraft] KX3 dual-watch working (ahead of schedule!)
I agree and wanted to mention that you can choose any telnet cluster in the Configuration-->Cluster (Telnet) list. I prefer a node that uses VE7CC's node software, CC Cluster. Telnet clusters are much more configurable than web clusters and send spots real-time rather that at pre-set intervals. I use CC User to feed the DXLab Suite, http://www.dxlabsuite.com/ , but CC User used standalone can interface with a K3 (it's in the Port Setup window). http://www.ve7cc.net/ 73, Jim N7US -Original Message- On Thu, Mar 8, 2012 at 10:14 PM, Wayne Burdick wrote: > Now I'm looking for my first DX split QSO with dual watch. What's the > best DX spotting web site? == Wayne, the gold standard spotting setup is the VE7CC program. Go to his website and download his application. It is a cluster client that eliminates the telnet connection, formats your outgoing commands automatically, and parses and formats the spots. You can see 'em by band, mode, sorted by time, call sign, etc. It displays CQ zone, name of country, whether or not the DX uses LOTW, and lots of other stuff. The split-operating DXpeditions of the moment are A35YZ, 3C0E, PJ7PT, VP2MOM, ZD7XF, TG7/NC2N, and some others. Plenty of stuff to shoot at. When I first got a K2 about 7 years ago I used it, together with a wire out the window and into the backyard tree, to work DXCC, which turned out not to be hard to do with that great radio. It's great that the KX3 has dual watch because it's just essential to work split when you have a pipsqueak signal. Good DX! Tony KT0NY __ Elecraft mailing list Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm Post: mailto:Elecraft@mailman.qth.net This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html
Re: [Elecraft] KX3 dual-watch working (ahead of schedule!)
Thanks Wayne! I can't wait to get my hands on the radio. I like to use DX Summit: http://www.dxsummit.fi/DxSpots.aspx http://www.dxsummit.fi/DxSpots.aspx You can look at spots per band, do pointed or general searches, etc. 73, Lou, W0FK wayne burdick wrote > > There's one nice thing about late hardware: the firmware gets better. > > Lyle and I just added Dual Watch to the KX3, which works amazingly > well. At present the VFOs can be separated by up to 15 kHz, but in > theory we can go to 30 kHz with the present DSP implementation. > > Now I'm looking for my first DX split QSO with dual watch. What's the > best DX spotting web site? > > Wayne, > N6KR > > __ > Elecraft mailing list > Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft > Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm > Post: mailto:Elecraft@.qth > > This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net > Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html > - St. Louis, MO K3 #2513, P3 #620 KX3 *On Order* -- View this message in context: http://elecraft.365791.n2.nabble.com/KX3-dual-watch-working-ahead-of-schedule-tp7358106p7358887.html Sent from the Elecraft mailing list archive at Nabble.com. __ Elecraft mailing list Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm Post: mailto:Elecraft@mailman.qth.net This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html
Re: [Elecraft] KX3 dual-watch working (ahead of schedule!)
Wayne, Well done! Dual watch has been a limitation of smaller rigs for a long time - that is until now Here is a list of DX clusters. Pick the one that is closest to your QTH. Remember the "W's" are at the bottom of the list. 73 Gene K1NR http://www.iw5edi.com/ham-radio/?dx-cluster-telnet-links,65 On Thu, 8 Mar 2012 20:14:12 -0800 Wayne Burdick wrote: > There's one nice thing about late hardware: the firmware > gets better. > > Lyle and I just added Dual Watch to the KX3, which works > amazingly > well. At present the VFOs can be separated by up to 15 > kHz, but in > theory we can go to 30 kHz with the present DSP > implementation. > > Now I'm looking for my first DX split QSO with dual > watch. What's the > best DX spotting web site? > > Wayne, > N6KR > > __ > Elecraft mailing list > Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft > Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm > Post: mailto:Elecraft@mailman.qth.net > > This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net > Please help support this email list: > http://www.qsl.net/donate.html - Web mail provided by NuNet, Inc. The Premier National provider. http://www.nni.com/ __ Elecraft mailing list Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm Post: mailto:Elecraft@mailman.qth.net This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html
Re: [Elecraft] KX3 dual-watch working (ahead of schedule!)
On 3/8/2012 9:14 PM, Wayne Burdick wrote: > ... > Now I'm looking for my first DX split QSO with dual watch. What's the > best DX spotting web site? Here are a couple of sites that I find helpful, both filtering for 20 meter activity: DX Sherlock http://www.vhfdx.info/spots/map.php?Lan=E&Frec=14&ML=M&Map=W2L&DXC=N&HF=S&GL=N When the selected band is open the map looks like the end game in a session of Missile Command. There are regional views and database views also. DXsummit http://www.dxsummit.fi/CustomFilter.aspx?customCount=50&customRange=14 The guys in Finland know how to build big antennas and a fine web site. There are many other sites, some of which show only QSOs that have a US or other North American end of the contact. And radio clubs in your area may have spotting nets that would be more useful for your purpose. 73, Gus Hansen KB0YH __ Elecraft mailing list Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm Post: mailto:Elecraft@mailman.qth.net This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html
Re: [Elecraft] KX3 dual-watch working (ahead of schedule!)
On Thu, Mar 8, 2012 at 10:14 PM, Wayne Burdick wrote: > Now I'm looking for my first DX split QSO with dual watch. What's the > best DX spotting web site? == Wayne, the gold standard spotting setup is the VE7CC program. Go to his website and download his application. It is a cluster client that eliminates the telnet connection, formats your outgoing commands automatically, and parses and formats the spots. You can see 'em by band, mode, sorted by time, call sign, etc. It displays CQ zone, name of country, whether or not the DX uses LOTW, and lots of other stuff. The split-operating DXpeditions of the moment are A35YZ, 3C0E, PJ7PT, VP2MOM, ZD7XF, TG7/NC2N, and some others. Plenty of stuff to shoot at. When I first got a K2 about 7 years ago I used it, together with a wire out the window and into the backyard tree, to work DXCC, which turned out not to be hard to do with that great radio. It's great that the KX3 has dual watch because it's just essential to work split when you have a pipsqueak signal. Good DX! Tony KT0NY -- http://www.isb.edu/faculty/facultydir.aspx?ddlFaculty=352 __ Elecraft mailing list Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm Post: mailto:Elecraft@mailman.qth.net This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html
Re: [Elecraft] KX3 dual-watch working (ahead of schedule!)
Wayne, I like this one: http://www.dxsummit.fi/DxSpots.aspx 73, BILL W4RK On Mar 8, 2012, at 10:14 PM, Wayne Burdick wrote: > There's one nice thing about late hardware: the firmware gets better. > > Lyle and I just added Dual Watch to the KX3, which works amazingly > well. At present the VFOs can be separated by up to 15 kHz, but in > theory we can go to 30 kHz with the present DSP implementation. > > Now I'm looking for my first DX split QSO with dual watch. What's the > best DX spotting web site? > > Wayne, > N6KR > > __ > Elecraft mailing list > Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft > Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm > Post: mailto:Elecraft@mailman.qth.net > > This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net > Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html __ Elecraft mailing list Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm Post: mailto:Elecraft@mailman.qth.net This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html
Re: [Elecraft] KX3 dual-watch working (ahead of schedule!)
I don't know if it's the best, but this one is good: http://www.dxsummit.fi/DxSpots.aspx GL! Mike ab3ap On 03/08/2012 11:14 PM, Wayne Burdick wrote: > [...] What's the best DX spotting web site? > > Wayne, > N6KR __ Elecraft mailing list Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm Post: mailto:Elecraft@mailman.qth.net This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html
[Elecraft] KX3 dual-watch working (ahead of schedule!)
There's one nice thing about late hardware: the firmware gets better. Lyle and I just added Dual Watch to the KX3, which works amazingly well. At present the VFOs can be separated by up to 15 kHz, but in theory we can go to 30 kHz with the present DSP implementation. Now I'm looking for my first DX split QSO with dual watch. What's the best DX spotting web site? Wayne, N6KR __ Elecraft mailing list Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm Post: mailto:Elecraft@mailman.qth.net This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html
