Re: [Elecraft] VOX / PTT combination on k3
TNX guys, you were very helpful 73 Robert, S57AW On Sun, Dec 20, 2015 at 12:40 AM, Brian Hunt wrote: > I do pretty much what you want to do: use N1MM+ and paddle/external keyer. > > I have: paddle connected directly to the K3; QSK selected; VOX selected; > PTT/KEY set to off/dtr; and N1MM+ keying through the serial port dtr line. > It gives full QSK to hear other stations between characters. > > 73, > Brian, K0DTJ > __ > Elecraft mailing list > Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft > Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm > Post: mailto:Elecraft@mailman.qth.net > > This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net > Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html > Message delivered to rba...@gmail.com > __ Elecraft mailing list Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm Post: mailto:Elecraft@mailman.qth.net This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html Message delivered to arch...@mail-archive.com
Re: [Elecraft] VOX / PTT combination on k3
I do pretty much what you want to do: use N1MM+ and paddle/external keyer. I have: paddle connected directly to the K3; QSK selected; VOX selected; PTT/KEY set to off/dtr; and N1MM+ keying through the serial port dtr line. It gives full QSK to hear other stations between characters. 73, Brian, K0DTJ __ Elecraft mailing list Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm Post: mailto:Elecraft@mailman.qth.net This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html Message delivered to arch...@mail-archive.com
Re: [Elecraft] VOX / PTT combination on k3
The WinKey http://k1el.tripod.com/ , in conjunction with N1MM Logger+, does this beautifully. It has separate delay adjustments for paddle-generated and computer-generated CW. You can set the computer delay to zero and the paddle delay to a hang time of 1 to 2 letter spaces, so the paddle delay works at any speed. Dave Hachadorian, K6LL Yuma, AZ -Original Message- From: Robert Bajuk Sent: Saturday, December 19, 2015 5:28 AM To: elecraft@mailman.qth.net Subject: [Elecraft] VOX / PTT combination on k3 Hi, Simple question... Is there a way to avoid VOX delay on CW mode when PTT is used? To be more concrete: - CW and PTT signal are sent to K3 with N1MM directly from serial port (no external keyer) - external electronic keyer is connected to K3 - VOX is enabled If I want CW keyer to work without PTT / paddle then VOX has to be enabled, but VOX brings unwanted delay at the end when CW is sent from PC. 73 Robert, S57AW __ Elecraft mailing list Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm Post: mailto:Elecraft@mailman.qth.net This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html Message delivered to k6ll.d...@gmail.com __ Elecraft mailing list Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm Post: mailto:Elecraft@mailman.qth.net This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html Message delivered to arch...@mail-archive.com
Re: [Elecraft] VOX / PTT combination on k3
Once you have enabled VOX, you are stuck with whatever delay it imposes. In effect, the VOX and PTT functions are in a logical OR relationship - if either one of them wants the rig to be in transmit, it will be in transmit. In your current setup you could disable computer PTT control entirely and you would not see any difference. There is a way to set the VOX delay to nearly zero, and that is to enable QSK. With PTT and QSK enabled, your computer messages will be controlled by PTT (no RX between characters), but your paddle-sent CW will be QSK. If you are using a non-QSK amplifier, this won't work for you. Without using QSK, you can reduce the VOX delay in the K3, but if you are using an external amplifier that is not capable of QSK, the amplifier may impose a lower limit on the VOX delay you can safely use, i.e. you may want to have a VOX delay long enough to prevent returning to RX between characters, and maybe also between words, during paddle input, and that VOX delay will also affect the end of computer messages. If you have an external keyer that has a PTT output, you can wire-OR the keyer's PTT output with the PTT signal from the computer. When the computer is sending, PTT will be asserted by the computer and there will be no RX during messages, but no delay in the return to RX at the end of the messages. When you are sending from the paddle, the delay will be controlled by the keyer's PTT settings. If you have a non-QSK amplifier you will have to configure the delay in the keyer to accommodate the amplifier, but the delay will only apply to paddle-sent CW, not to computer-sent messages. 73, Rich VE3KI S57AW wrote: Simple question... Is there a way to avoid VOX delay on CW mode when PTT is used? __ Elecraft mailing list Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm Post: mailto:Elecraft@mailman.qth.net This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html Message delivered to arch...@mail-archive.com
Re: [Elecraft] VOX / PTT combination on k3
Hi Robert, If you are using VOX there should be no difference in the delay between using your paddle and using your PC. It sounds like N1MM is still sending a PTT command over the serial link. You can prove this by changing CONFIG:PTT-KEY to OFF-OFF on your K3. 73, Mike K2MK s57aw wrote > Hi, > > Simple question... Is there a way to avoid VOX delay on CW mode when PTT > is > used? > > To be more concrete: > > - CW and PTT signal are sent to K3 with N1MM directly from serial port (no > external keyer) > - external electronic keyer is connected to K3 > - VOX is enabled > > If I want CW keyer to work without PTT / paddle then VOX has to be > enabled, > but VOX brings unwanted delay at the end when CW is sent from PC. > > 73 Robert, S57AW -- View this message in context: http://elecraft.365791.n2.nabble.com/VOX-PTT-combination-on-k3-tp7611619p7611620.html Sent from the Elecraft mailing list archive at Nabble.com. __ Elecraft mailing list Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm Post: mailto:Elecraft@mailman.qth.net This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html Message delivered to arch...@mail-archive.com
[Elecraft] VOX / PTT combination on k3
Hi, Simple question... Is there a way to avoid VOX delay on CW mode when PTT is used? To be more concrete: - CW and PTT signal are sent to K3 with N1MM directly from serial port (no external keyer) - external electronic keyer is connected to K3 - VOX is enabled If I want CW keyer to work without PTT / paddle then VOX has to be enabled, but VOX brings unwanted delay at the end when CW is sent from PC. 73 Robert, S57AW __ Elecraft mailing list Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm Post: mailto:Elecraft@mailman.qth.net This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html Message delivered to arch...@mail-archive.com
