Re: [Elecraft] FW: Elecraft K3/P3 last-time order

[Paul GACEK via Elecraft]

It’s on Elecraft’s web site to make it even easier for us.

https://elecraft.com/products/k3s-transceiver

Paul

> On Apr 20, 2021, at 9:20 AM, w4sc  wrote:
> 
> Several months ago there was a request for “Who is interested” in K3/K3S  
> modules and accessories.  I suspect if you did not express an interest, you 
> may NOT have received the latest email of Monday 19 April with the link to an 
> order page for making a half or full deposit on the items planned for “last 
> build” activity.  I don’t see this link on the Elecraft site, though it may 
> appear later.
> 
> Ben W4SC
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Re: [Elecraft] FW: Elecraft K3/P3 last-time order

[w4sc]

Several months ago there was a request for “Who is interested” in K3/K3S  
modules and accessories.  I suspect if you did not express an interest, you may 
NOT have received the latest email of Monday 19 April with the link to an order 
page for making a half or full deposit on the items planned for “last build” 
activity.  I don’t see this link on the Elecraft site, though it may appear 
later.

Ben W4SC

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Re: [Elecraft] FW: Elecraft K3/P3 last-time order

[Dr. William J. Schmidt]

Yes.  And the salient part of this is that I missed the email about taking 
deposits…  When did it go out?

 

 

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From: Robie Elms  
Sent: Tuesday, April 20, 2021 10:37 AM
To: b...@wjschmidt.com
Cc: Elecraft Mail List 
Subject: Re: [Elecraft] FW: Elecraft K3/P3 last-time order

 

Bill,

 

They are taking deposits now.

 

Robie - AJ4F

 

On Tue, Apr 20, 2021 at 10:34 AM Dr. William J. Schmidt mailto:b...@wjschmidt.com> > wrote:

I must have missed that email...??  and I wondered when they would start
taking orders for the upgrades.  Anyway take note if you still want K3/K3s
parts before they are gone!


Dr. William J. Schmidt - K9HZ J68HZ 8P6HK ZF2HZ PJ4/K9HZ VP5/K9HZ PJ2/K9HZ 

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Sent: Tuesday, April 20, 2021 5:13 AM
To: elecraft@mailman.qth.net <mailto:elecraft@mailman.qth.net> 
Subject: [Elecraft] Elecraft K3/P3 last-time order

I received a mail from Elecraft sales pointing to
https://elecraft.com/pages/k3-k3s-options

This is the next step for the last-time K3/P3 order - order what you want
now or forget it!

Judging by the questions on list many people will still want to order
something - this is the last chance..

73,

Geert Jan PE1HZG
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Re: [Elecraft] FW: Elecraft K3/P3 last-time order

[Robie Elms]

Bill,

They are taking deposits now.

Robie - AJ4F

On Tue, Apr 20, 2021 at 10:34 AM Dr. William J. Schmidt 
wrote:

> I must have missed that email...??  and I wondered when they would start
> taking orders for the upgrades.  Anyway take note if you still want K3/K3s
> parts before they are gone!
>
>
> Dr. William J. Schmidt - K9HZ J68HZ 8P6HK ZF2HZ PJ4/K9HZ VP5/K9HZ PJ2/K9HZ
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> Behalf Of Geert Jan de Groot
> Sent: Tuesday, April 20, 2021 5:13 AM
> To: elecraft@mailman.qth.net
> Subject: [Elecraft] Elecraft K3/P3 last-time order
>
> I received a mail from Elecraft sales pointing to
> https://elecraft.com/pages/k3-k3s-options
>
> This is the next step for the last-time K3/P3 order - order what you want
> now or forget it!
>
> Judging by the questions on list many people will still want to order
> something - this is the last chance..
>
> 73,
>
> Geert Jan PE1HZG
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[Elecraft] FW: Elecraft K3/P3 last-time order

[Dr. William J. Schmidt]

I must have missed that email...??  and I wondered when they would start
taking orders for the upgrades.  Anyway take note if you still want K3/K3s
parts before they are gone!


Dr. William J. Schmidt - K9HZ J68HZ 8P6HK ZF2HZ PJ4/K9HZ VP5/K9HZ PJ2/K9HZ 

Moderator – North American QRO Group at Groups.IO.

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-Original Message-
From: elecraft-boun...@mailman.qth.net  On
Behalf Of Geert Jan de Groot
Sent: Tuesday, April 20, 2021 5:13 AM
To: elecraft@mailman.qth.net
Subject: [Elecraft] Elecraft K3/P3 last-time order

I received a mail from Elecraft sales pointing to
https://elecraft.com/pages/k3-k3s-options

This is the next step for the last-time K3/P3 order - order what you want
now or forget it!

Judging by the questions on list many people will still want to order
something - this is the last chance..

73,

Geert Jan PE1HZG
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Re: [Elecraft] FW: [Elecraft-K3] K3S Comparison table finalized(linkattached)

[Wes]

How could you possibly know that?

On 1/30/2019 2:08 PM, Ron Genovesi wrote:

Having owned both, I can assure you of one thing.
You really don’t want to go there.
Believe me

     Ron Genovesi
           N3ETA
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On Jan 30, 2019, at 12:30 PM, Wes > wrote:



I agree.

On 1/30/2019 10:08 AM, Roger wrote:

A comparison with TS-890S would be interesting.

73, Roger DL2YDP



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Re: [Elecraft] FW: [Elecraft-K3] K3S Comparison table finalized(linkattached)

[Ron Genovesi]

Having owned both, I can assure you of one thing.
You really don’t want to go there.
Believe me

 Ron Genovesi
   N3ETA
Sent from my iPhone

> On Jan 30, 2019, at 12:30 PM, Wes  wrote:
> 
> I agree.
> 
>> On 1/30/2019 10:08 AM, Roger wrote:
>> A comparison with TS-890S would be interesting.
>> 
>> 73, Roger DL2YDP
>> 
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Re: [Elecraft] FW: [Elecraft-K3] K3S Comparison table finalized(linkattached)

[Wes]

I agree.

On 1/30/2019 10:08 AM, Roger wrote:

A comparison with TS-890S would be interesting.

73, Roger DL2YDP



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Re: [Elecraft] FW: [Elecraft-K3] K3S Comparison table finalized (linkattached)

[Roger]

A comparison with TS-890S would be interesting.

73, Roger DL2YDP



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Re: [Elecraft] FW: [Elecraft-K3] K3S Comparison table finalized (linkattached)

[Jamie WW3S]

and that was my real life experience in last weekends 160 contestI felt 
the 7610 could hear just a bit better than the K3, especially those ESP 
signals right at the noise.I worked several DX I wouldn’t have with the 
K3.BUT...in crowded condx, the 7610 thumped and pumped when someone 
was close to my passband, even with a 200 hz filter enabled. I didn’t get 
any of that with the K3, its front end is like a brick wall..to be fair, 
I had the noise blanker enabled on the 7610, which some comments post 
contest said that could be some of the thumping I experienced.


-Original Message- 
From: Jim N7US

Sent: Monday, January 28, 2019 8:18 PM
To: Elecraft Reflector
Subject: [Elecraft] FW: [Elecraft-K3] K3S Comparison table finalized 
(linkattached)


I'd be interested in seeing a similar comparison of the K3S to the
FlexRadio.

Jim N7US

-Original Message-

My two cents:



Rob wrote:

I would count the order differently if numbering is of interest.  The

radio at #1 cannot be reproduced with current software.

Clarified recently in footnote "y" of the RX performance table.



That makes the K3S #1 and the 7610 #9 if you want to count for some

reason. The difference in 2 kHz dynamic range is 106 dB compared to 98 dB.

The table is sorted on 2 kHz IMDDR3. However, the table also shows dramatic
differences in blocking dynamic range. For example, the K3S is 20 to 30 dB
stronger in this regard than all of the direct-sampling radios in the table.
This is due to the K3S having narrow-band filtering (crystal filters) ahead
of the ADC. This can greatly reduce desense and other artifacts in any
high-signal situation (Field Day, KW neighbor, multi-TX station, etc.).

Wayne
N6KR


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[Elecraft] FW: [Elecraft-K3] K3S Comparison table finalized (link attached)

[Jim N7US]

I'd be interested in seeing a similar comparison of the K3S to the
FlexRadio.

Jim N7US

-Original Message-

My two cents:


> Rob wrote:
> 
> I would count the order differently if numbering is of interest.  The
radio at #1 cannot be reproduced with current software.

Clarified recently in footnote "y" of the RX performance table.


> That makes the K3S #1 and the 7610 #9 if you want to count for some
reason. The difference in 2 kHz dynamic range is 106 dB compared to 98 dB.

The table is sorted on 2 kHz IMDDR3. However, the table also shows dramatic
differences in blocking dynamic range. For example, the K3S is 20 to 30 dB
stronger in this regard than all of the direct-sampling radios in the table.
This is due to the K3S having narrow-band filtering (crystal filters) ahead
of the ADC. This can greatly reduce desense and other artifacts in any
high-signal situation (Field Day, KW neighbor, multi-TX station, etc.).

Wayne
N6KR


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[Elecraft] FW: Elecraft K3 Utlity 1.13.5.9 on Elecraft web site

[Dick Dievendorff]

Detlaf: I'm unable to respond directly because I keep getting this response:

 

Delivery to the following recipients was aborted after 0 second(s): and your
e-mail address.

 

I've just tested the K3 Utility Terminal Page with 1.13.5.9 and it seems to
be working as it did before. Do you have K3 Text Decoding on? Are text
characters appearing in the K3 VFO B area?

 

Dick, K6KR



 

From: Detlef Fischer  
Sent: Monday, May 13, 2013 9:20 AM
To: die...@comcast.net
Subject: [Elecraft] Elecraft K3 Utlity 1.13.5.9 on Elecraft web site

 

  

Dick,

Thanks for all of your work for the utility, but within the terminal area
the receive option is not working properly. Since the previous version.
Please check it.

VY 73

 

Detlef / DK1KL

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[Elecraft] Fw: Elecraft K3; recent antenna mis-understanding

[Richard Fjeld]

I think I mentioned on my last post that I was going to try the MFJ-212 with an 
ATU  connected to coax to see what the P3 displayed then. 

I don't know if anyone is interested, so I won't take up bandwidth here.  If 
anyone is, please reply off line and I will tell you what I found.

Rich, n0ce



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[Elecraft] FW: FW: [Elecraft K3] Volume Level with NR

[Tommy Alderman]

I should mention that my NR is set for F8--4.

Tom - W4BQF


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[mailto:elecraft-boun...@mailman.qth.net] On Behalf Of Tommy Alderman
Sent: Monday, October 04, 2010 8:57 PM
To: elecraft@mailman.qth.net
Subject: [Elecraft] FW: [Elecraft K3] Volume Level with NR


I agree with Jack. 

I just looked at two CW signals on 40m. One at 20dB over and one signal that
was not even moving my S mtr. In the case of the 20 over signal, the noise
decreased significantly but the signal on the P3 did not drop at all. The
weak signal appeared to drop in signal level, but the noised seemed to drop
much more. The last one is very hard to tell! But a signal at S-5, the noise
dropped but the signal level remained at S-5.

Tom - W4BQF

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[mailto:elecraft-boun...@mailman.qth.net] On Behalf Of WILLIS COOKE
Sent: Monday, October 04, 2010 6:15 PM
To: W4GRJ; Dale Wiese; Elecraft Email
Subject: Re: [Elecraft] [Elecraft K3] Volume Level with NR

That sure is not what I have observed.  My signals drop about 2 S units if
they 
are strong.  If they are near the noise level they disappear.  I am running
F 
1-1.  It is worse if I run a higher NR level.  

 Willis 'Cookie' Cooke 
K5EWJ 





From: W4GRJ 
To: Dale Wiese ; Elecraft Email 
Sent: Mon, October 4, 2010 4:54:21 PM
Subject: Re: [Elecraft] [Elecraft K3] Volume Level with NR

Dale,

Just for reference, my experience with the K3 NR is outstanding. I cannot
notice any reduced volume on the tuned signal. The NR on my K3 does a great
job of whacking out the noise without effecting the signal level. 

You may need to do some checking of settings and calibration, I am sure
there are folks here that can help you.

Jack
W4GRJ


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[mailto:elecraft-boun...@mailman.qth.net] On Behalf Of Dale Wiese
Sent: Monday, October 04, 2010 2:31 PM
To: Elecraft Email
Subject: Re: [Elecraft] Volume Level with NR

Wayne, 

I am going to disagree - I think its a real issue, and an area for K3
improvement.  While I have not been to Jim's shack to hear what he is
hearing, it  sounds like what I have always observed, at least for SSB
reception.  Engaging the NR significantly reduces the overall audio level.

When I engage the NR on my MkV or FT-847, the band noise drops away, but the
perceived volume of the monitored voice stays about the same.  It is rare
that I need to touch the volume control.  Yaesu NR is reasonably effective
for turning a marginal signal into something that can be copied, and turning
a strong signal with high band noise into something more pleasant to listen
to.

On the K3, engaging the NR in SSB drops both the noise and the apparent
voice level substantially, requiring that the volume control be turned up [a
lot]  to copy the voice.  But then the noise is also increased.
Frequently it feels like the NR has done little to no good, but it is hard
to tell.  Perhaps the ratio between the band noise and the desired signal is
improved, but overall I would say its not.  Or not very much.  

The NR difference on SSB between the K3 and the Yaesu products I have used
is large, and the K3 loses.  It is the _only_ K3 feature I find which is
sub-par, and only for SSB - NR for CW seems much more effective.

73,
Dale
N9XD


On Oct 4, 2010, at 9:13 AM, Wayne Burdick wrote:

> Jim,
> 
> Some drop in apparent volume level is typical with NR. Part of the  
> drop is due to the removal of noise. Part of it may be a  
> psychoacoustic effect (sorry, I'm not an expert on this).
> 
> You might also try setting F5-1. Settings from F5-x to F8-x use a  
> different algorithm.
> 
> 73,
> Wayne
> N6KR
> 
> 
> On Oct 4, 2010, at 9:04 AM, Jim Harris wrote:
> 
>> 
>> Hi,
>> 
>> I've noticed recently that when I press NR the volume level drops  
>> what could be called a considerable amount.  I normally use NR  
>> setting of F-1-1 or -2.  More than that tends to almost mute the  
>> receiver.  I find that the volume control needs to be increased  
>> about 70 degrees or so to give the same loudness as before the NR  
>> was pressed with the above settings.  I have to manually change the  
>> volume every time I engage or disengage the NR.  I realize that most  
>> likely there should be some decrease in loudness but this seems to  
>> be excessive.
>> 
>> Does anyone have any meaningful experience or recommendations they  
>> can pass along.
>> 
>> Thank you.
>> 
>> 
>> Take Pride in the USA!
>> 
>> 73,  Jim, W0EM
>> 
>> 
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[Elecraft] FW: [Elecraft K3] Volume Level with NR

[Tommy Alderman]

I agree with Jack. 

I just looked at two CW signals on 40m. One at 20dB over and one signal that
was not even moving my S mtr. In the case of the 20 over signal, the noise
decreased significantly but the signal on the P3 did not drop at all. The
weak signal appeared to drop in signal level, but the noised seemed to drop
much more. The last one is very hard to tell! But a signal at S-5, the noise
dropped but the signal level remained at S-5.

Tom - W4BQF

-Original Message-
From: elecraft-boun...@mailman.qth.net
[mailto:elecraft-boun...@mailman.qth.net] On Behalf Of WILLIS COOKE
Sent: Monday, October 04, 2010 6:15 PM
To: W4GRJ; Dale Wiese; Elecraft Email
Subject: Re: [Elecraft] [Elecraft K3] Volume Level with NR

That sure is not what I have observed.  My signals drop about 2 S units if
they 
are strong.  If they are near the noise level they disappear.  I am running
F 
1-1.  It is worse if I run a higher NR level.  

 Willis 'Cookie' Cooke 
K5EWJ 





From: W4GRJ 
To: Dale Wiese ; Elecraft Email 
Sent: Mon, October 4, 2010 4:54:21 PM
Subject: Re: [Elecraft] [Elecraft K3] Volume Level with NR

Dale,

Just for reference, my experience with the K3 NR is outstanding. I cannot
notice any reduced volume on the tuned signal. The NR on my K3 does a great
job of whacking out the noise without effecting the signal level. 

You may need to do some checking of settings and calibration, I am sure
there are folks here that can help you.

Jack
W4GRJ


-Original Message-
From: elecraft-boun...@mailman.qth.net
[mailto:elecraft-boun...@mailman.qth.net] On Behalf Of Dale Wiese
Sent: Monday, October 04, 2010 2:31 PM
To: Elecraft Email
Subject: Re: [Elecraft] Volume Level with NR

Wayne, 

I am going to disagree - I think its a real issue, and an area for K3
improvement.  While I have not been to Jim's shack to hear what he is
hearing, it  sounds like what I have always observed, at least for SSB
reception.  Engaging the NR significantly reduces the overall audio level.

When I engage the NR on my MkV or FT-847, the band noise drops away, but the
perceived volume of the monitored voice stays about the same.  It is rare
that I need to touch the volume control.  Yaesu NR is reasonably effective
for turning a marginal signal into something that can be copied, and turning
a strong signal with high band noise into something more pleasant to listen
to.

On the K3, engaging the NR in SSB drops both the noise and the apparent
voice level substantially, requiring that the volume control be turned up [a
lot]  to copy the voice.  But then the noise is also increased.
Frequently it feels like the NR has done little to no good, but it is hard
to tell.  Perhaps the ratio between the band noise and the desired signal is
improved, but overall I would say its not.  Or not very much.  

The NR difference on SSB between the K3 and the Yaesu products I have used
is large, and the K3 loses.  It is the _only_ K3 feature I find which is
sub-par, and only for SSB - NR for CW seems much more effective.

73,
Dale
N9XD


On Oct 4, 2010, at 9:13 AM, Wayne Burdick wrote:

> Jim,
> 
> Some drop in apparent volume level is typical with NR. Part of the  
> drop is due to the removal of noise. Part of it may be a  
> psychoacoustic effect (sorry, I'm not an expert on this).
> 
> You might also try setting F5-1. Settings from F5-x to F8-x use a  
> different algorithm.
> 
> 73,
> Wayne
> N6KR
> 
> 
> On Oct 4, 2010, at 9:04 AM, Jim Harris wrote:
> 
>> 
>> Hi,
>> 
>> I've noticed recently that when I press NR the volume level drops  
>> what could be called a considerable amount.  I normally use NR  
>> setting of F-1-1 or -2.  More than that tends to almost mute the  
>> receiver.  I find that the volume control needs to be increased  
>> about 70 degrees or so to give the same loudness as before the NR  
>> was pressed with the above settings.  I have to manually change the  
>> volume every time I engage or disengage the NR.  I realize that most  
>> likely there should be some decrease in loudness but this seems to  
>> be excessive.
>> 
>> Does anyone have any meaningful experience or recommendations they  
>> can pass along.
>> 
>> Thank you.
>> 
>> 
>> Take Pride in the USA!
>> 
>> 73,  Jim, W0EM
>> 
>> 
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FW: [Elecraft] K3 Annoying diddle in RTTY

[Dick Dievendorff]

Joe:  
What MCU revision and what version of the K3 Utility are you using?

Wayne provided immediate EOT support in MCU firmware revision 2.48, and K3
Utility Version 1.0.10.17 exploited that capability.  

What's supposed to happen is when we run out of characters to send, the
carrier should drop fairly quickly. Is that not working?

Dick, K6KR



> From: "Joe Stofko" 
> Date: January 4, 2009 4:35:24 PM PST
> To: 
> Subject: [Elecraft] K3 Annoying diddle in RTTY
>
> I love teletype... played with it over 30 years ago... well before the 
> K3!
> I think that the ability to use the K3 Utility program in terminal mode
> to effect true FSK is a great feature...   I made some Q's this weekend
> during the contest and had a great time of it... except for the 5 
> second
> idle time that appears to be non-controlable. It is most annoying to 
> me...
> and, probably, the stations I worked in the contest, to have to sit and
> wait for the transmission to cease. I know that in the CW to RTTY
> mode, the text string IM can be sent to immediately exit to receive 
> mode
> but this is kinda kludgy, in my opinion, when operating with the 
> keyboard
> to have to reach over and send IM with the paddles. The terminal in 
> the utility
> program has a radio button for TRANSMIT that changes to STOP
> once in the transmit mode... but pressing it... or hitting CTRL-T
> does nothing to promote quick exit to receive mode. We seem to be stuck
> with that idle time, no matter what.  Now, I may have missed
> something somewhere that allows the user to switch immediately
> from TX to RX ...   otherwise, if there are others who are bothered
> by this ... can we ask that a future firmware release might address
> this??   I know that I could avoid this by switching to AFSK and using
> audio cables with the sound card but, I much prefer the simpler
> approach to plain old FSK...  and it seems a shame that the K3 firmware
> coupled with the terminal in the utility program doesn't have this 
> feature.
> If I DID happen to overlook something in the manual, pointing me to the
> information would be most appreciated !
>
> Happy New Year to all... 73,
> Joe - W1AIU
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FW: [Elecraft] K3

[John E. Reiser]

It occurred to me that others might benefit from this thread, especially
Lee's pictures.

73,

John, W2GW



-Original Message-
From: Lee (WW2DX) [mailto:l...@ww2dx.com]
Sent: Thursday, December 11, 2008 4:41 PM
To: John E. Reiser
Subject: Re: [Elecraft] K3


Thanks John, I really appreciate your feedback!

I am looking forward to it. I have xmas week off so I will be building
then.

Here are the pix I took of the initial build, I will be taking more
for the KRX3.

Thanks again!

73
Lee
WW2DX

http://picasaweb.google.com/ljimber/ElecraftK3Arrives#


On Dec 11, 2008, at 4:23 PM, John E. Reiser wrote:

> Hi Lee,
>
> You are wise to do the installations at the same time in my
> opinion.  It
> saves taking everything apart a second time.
>
> I didn't run into any real problems.  When I got my Katiegram I
> downloaded
> and read the installation instructions to familiarize myself.  Then,
> after
> all the components had arrived, I resolved to take my time, even if
> it took
> all day (I'm retired).  I followed the manuals to the letter and
> didn't take
> any shortcuts.  And, I was scrupulous about my ESD precautions: I used
> grounded wrist strap and work mat.
>
> I followed the steps given in the KRX3 manual up to just before
> where they
> call for reinstalling the main DSP board to the front panel
> assembly.  Then
> I digressed to install the KDVR3 board.  The little KDVR3 board just
> plugs
> into the main DSP board and you secure it to a standoff with a screw.
>
> As for the K3AFMDKT, I only did the first part: removing a choke on
> the top
> side of the RF board and replacing it with another on the bottom
> from the
> mod kit. Actually, in the sequence of things, I did that just after
> the top
> and front-bottom covers were off.  I chose to remove the old choke
> entirely
> using solder-wick from the bottom.  Then I formed and cut the leads
> of the
> new choke and soldered it from the bottom to the original pads and
> holes.
>
> The reason I didn't do the second part of the mod is that I have
> been using
> the LINE IN for digital modes without any problem for the past nine
> months.
> It works well as-is with my Lenovo notebook computer, and I didn't
> want to
> mess that up.
>
> I did drop a lock washer into the radio in the process of putting it
> back
> together.  As a result, I had to take the right side panel off again
> to get
> the washer out.  Along the way, I dropped in other washers and nuts,
> but was
> able to get them out by turning the radio upside down and shaking.
>
> And when everything was back together and I did the CONFIG: VCO CAL
> step, I
> got a cryptic  error message.  Then I remembered that there was no
> DSP 2
> firmware installed yet.  (Maybe the instructions should remind about
> this.)
> Once I downloaded the latest beta firmware, everything else went
> smoothly.
>
> I came away from the experience with a profound admiration for the
> K3's
> mechanical design.  As I said, what a radio!
>
> 73,
>
> John, W2GW
>
>
>
> -Original Message-
> From: Lee (WW2DX) [mailto:l...@ww2dx.com]
> Sent: Thursday, December 11, 2008 1:55 PM
> To: John E. Reiser
> Subject: Re: [Elecraft] K3
>
>
> Hi John,
>
> Thanks for the post. I just finished finalizing my order with Katie
> yesterday.
> I have K3 # 464 and also waited for the 2nd rxer to be shipped with
> the KDVR3.
> I also had her include the K3AFMDKT and the RXA Mod as well.
>
> How did it all go? Any gotcha's you can give me a heads up on?
>
> 73 de Lee
> WW2DX.com
>
>
> On Dec 11, 2008, at 11:59 AM, John E. Reiser wrote:
>
>> Pardon my gushing.
>>
>> I just installed the KRX3, the KDVR3, and the K3AFMDKT in my K3
>> #384, along
>> with the MCU 2.72 / DSP 1.98 beta firmware.
>>
>> What a great radio!  It just gets better and better!
>>
>> Thanks Wayne, Eric and Lyle and all your colleagues at Elecraft.
>>
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Re: Fw: [Elecraft] K3 and CQWW

[Tony Morgan]

. I hope to be able to purchase a K3 someday if Elecraft doesn't go

"belly up" first.



73,

Steve Brandt N7VS

Portland, Oregon


Steve,

I wouldn't wait that long, you may be too old to enjoy it.  :-)

73,

Tony W7GO


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Fw: [Elecraft] K3 and CQWW

[Stephen Brandt]

Well put. I learned code from a former world war II Merchant Marine radio
operator back in the 60's. He had me copying 25 wpm code groups, not plain
language, effortlessly by the time I took my Extra class code test. I used
to be able to carry on at 25 wpm. But I found 18 - 20 wpm was a very
comfortable speed in most contests. I get very few requests for repeats. I
will slow down as much as required to get a contact when necessary. Yes, I
would rather not when I have a good run going. But that doesn't happen very
often with my FT- 1000MP barefoot "peanut whistle"

For the fast guys, I cheat and use "cw get". If the person has a halfway
decent signal, there are few stations that it can't follow. The tuning aid
is great for zero beating. With only 100 watts output to a Radio Works Super
Loop, I am generally an S & P contester, and tend to shy away from the big
pileups. I hope to be able to purchase a K3 someday if Elecraft doesn't go
"belly up" first.



73,

Steve Brandt N7VS

Portland, Oregon


> On Mon, 1 Dec 2008 14:06:35 -0800 (PST), Bill W4ZV wrote:
>
> > said a "very slow caller" in a "big pileup".  I did not say a slow
caller
> >with nobody else calling.  I stand by my statement.
>
> Agreed. One W7 kept calling continuously at 18 wpm when it was obvious he
> couldn't hear the DX station. I heard several instances of that, and it
made
> things quite difficult for the guys that COULD hear the DX.
>
> >I also wouldn't disparage contesters too much.  They're much more likely
to
> >hear your 100W to an attic antenna than someone using similar antennas to
> >yours.  QRPers sometimes forget who is doing the real work when they make
a
> >rare DX contact.
>
> Agreed on all counts. I've been in chairs on both sides of that QSO. The
> antenna farms at stations like N6RO and W8JI include serious RX antennas
and
> serious RXs. THAT'S why they can work flies peeing out the window in JA on
> 160.
>
> But I also agree with G4ILO when he correctly observed these egomaniacs
CQing
> at 40 WPM for the last 8 hours of the contest and getting very few
answers.
> QRQ WAS definitely part of why they were getting no calls -- they had
already
> worked the several hundred guys who CAN read 40 WPM. My call has a lot of
> dashes in it, so I regularly work at 29 WPM or so, but when things get
slow,
> I'll CQ at 25 or so. When it's not piled up, I'll certainly QRS when the
other
> guy is QRS. But like you, when I'm running, the call I'll answer first is
the
> one I think I can work the quickest, whether it's a better signal or a
> faster/better op.
>
> Jim K9YC

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FW: [Elecraft] K3 + Ameritron AL-811

[Jack Regan]

-Original Message-
I received a used 811-H that I had won on eBay Friday night and used on
Saturday in the ARRL-SS-CW.  I got the five states I needed for WAS CW with
no problem.  With 500 to 600 watts output I got answers to my calls
immediately.

Key out and no alc. Keep the drive down, 50 to 63 watts.  I was using two
resonant antennas, 40 and 20 meters so tuning was not an issue.

Now that the contest is over I have been trying to use the amp with my legal
limit MFJ 989D tuner for the non-resonant bands.  So far the internal K3 ATU
has easily found 1 to 1 matches for all bands from 80 on up. The MFJ tuner
and amp are having a harder time on 80. Perhaps what I am learning is how
inefficient the matches are on some bands.

Anyway, the amp is great for the price!  The only caveat is you have to
manually switch antennas and bands and settings!!

Jack, AE6GC
-Original Message-
ORIGINAL MESSAGE***
K6LRG will be operating my K3 with an AL-811 provided by AF6JG for the SB
SS.
Has anyone used this combination that can provide some recomendations for
setup and configuration or cautions that I should be aware of?

Thanks,

Jim
***

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FW: [Elecraft] K3-Problem with DX spot point-&-click and ACLog

[Terry Schieler]

I think that, in the spirit of the Elecraft design team and this reflector
(and before Wayne and Eric feel the need to step in), I would like to ask
that this thread be terminated at this point.  

I was simply trying to provide a "heads-up" to other K3 owners.  It has
never been my intention to uproot any malcontent with a vendor with whom I
have had many successful years.  

Thank you.

Terry, W0FM


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FW: [Elecraft] K3 #1815

[Jacek Kubiak]

To: elecraft@mailman.qth.net
Subject: [?? Probable Spam] [Elecraft] K3 #1815


order from: 14.06.2008
arrived:  26.09.2008

vy 73s de Stefan, DH0SP

mine ordered 19.05.2008, sent to SP Land 16.09.2008, arrived 19.09.2008 and
still laying  in custom service... thought we are in Europe United .
Jacek SP5DRH

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FW: [Elecraft] K3 #1140 For Sale on ebay

[Mike Short]

 Another reason to ship overseas: More DX stations. 
Just trying to do my part to help out the DX chasers...

Mike
AI4NS

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Re: FW: [Elecraft] K3 and StepIR/Icom PW-1

[Doug Faunt N6TQS +1-510-655-8604]

You've not been paying enough attention:
EXALCMDKT  K3 Negative External ALC Mod Kit $10.00

and

http://www.elecraft.com/K3/mods/K3ALCMod.pdf

73, doug

As usual, Elecraft is reponsive.


   From: "Adam Farson" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
   Date: Sun, 7 Sep 2008 21:13:49 -0700

   Hi Greg,

   Still, I would feel a lot more comfortable were Elecraft to correct the
   polarity of their external ALC input to the negative-going industry
   standard. I understand that this modification is presently underway. 

   Given the growing popularity of solid-state amplifiers (which all provide
   negative-going ALC voltage, to my knowledge) I can think of no rational
   reason for not making this change.

   Cheers for now, 73,
   Adam VA7OJ/AB4OJ


   -Original Message-
   From: Greg - N4CC [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] 
   Sent: 7-Sep-08 21:00
   To: Adam Farson
   Cc: elecraft@mailman.qth.net
   Subject: Re: FW: [Elecraft] K3 and StepIR/Icom PW-1

   Adam -- I guess it depends on the user.  Certainly having the ALC connected
   (if it were compatible) would be preferred...but my point is that saying "
   the K3 should not be used as an exciter for the PW-1" [without ALC] is not
   entirely accurate.  it is possible to use the PW-1 without ALC.  It can be
   done and done quite safely.  Granted you lose a measure of protection but if
   you use the K3 as I do -- where it recalls the drive setting by band, a
   unique feature of the
   K3 -- it is less likely that not having the ALC connected will ever 
   be an issue.   If you change the power settings frequently and are 
   not careful to return them to the desired drive level when operating the
   amplifier then your chance of damaging the amp increases without the ALC.
   Cheers.  73 de Greg

   At 10:53 PM 9/7/2008, you wrote:
   >Hi Greg,
   >
   >The PW1 uses the ALC loop as an essential part of its protective 
   >subsystem, as described in the service manual excerpt  which I sent 
   >you. Any one of several anomalous operating conditions (including 
   >over-drive and load
   >mismatch) will pull down the ALC line to reduce the drive. This is the 
   >amplifier's first line of defence.
   >
   >I would never put an expensive piece of equipment such as the PW1 at 
   >risk by connecting it to an exciter without a fully-functional ALC loop.
   >
   >Cheers for now, 73,
   >Adam VA7OJ/AB4OJ
   >
   >-Original Message-
   >From: Greg - N4CC [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
   >Sent: 7-Sep-08 19:05
   >To: Adam Farson
   >Subject: Re: FW: [Elecraft] K3 and StepIR/Icom PW-1
   >
   >I'm using the K3 with a PW-1 and the beauty of it is you don't need the 
   >ALC if you use the K3's capacity to store the power level (drive
   >level) for each band.  Obviously if you use the K3 barefoot at 100 
   >watts you would have to be careful to turn it back down with the amp 
   >but I just leave it at the saved settings that I have established for
   output for each band.
   >The proper drive level does vary somewhat by band.  You are right about 
   >the ALC ..the K3 ALC is not compatible with the PW-1 and you should not 
   >connect the ALC line between the two.  73 de Greg
   >
   >At 09:08 PM 9/7/2008, you wrote:
   > >  Hi Tom,
   > >
   > >The K3 should not be used as an exciter for the PW1 unless the 
   > >polarity of its external ALC input has been changed from 
   > >positive-going
   > >(original) to negative-going (range 0 to -4V). Failure to heed this 
   > >warning will result in extensive damage to the PW1, necessitating 
   > >costly repairs (as much as
   > >$1800!)
   > >
   > >http://www.ab4oj.com/icom/main.html#alc
   > >
   > >Cheers for now, 73,
   > >Adam VA7OJ/AB4OJ
   > >
   >

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RE: FW: [Elecraft] K3 and StepIR/Icom PW-1

[Adam Farson]

Hi Jerry,

Glad to hear that the fix has now been implemented. 

Cheers for now, 73,
Adam VA7OJ/AB4OJ
 

-Original Message-
From: Jerry Flanders [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] 
Sent: 7-Sep-08 21:40
To: Greg - N4CC; Adam Farson
Cc: elecraft@mailman.qth.net
Subject: Re: FW: [Elecraft] K3 and StepIR/Icom PW-1

I once blew up an unprotected amplifier's output circuit when a flaky
antenna feed line opened with 1500 watts RTTY applied.  Prior to that, I
didn't think I needed anything more than a hand on the drive level control
to keep my amp safe.

Now I make sure the ALC is there so the amp can cut that drive within
milliseconds if the antenna opens up again.

The K3 ALC fix is available from Elecraft. It works.

Jerry W4UK

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Re: FW: [Elecraft] K3 and StepIR/Icom PW-1

[Jim Brown]

On Mon, 08 Sep 2008 00:00:06 -0400, Greg - N4CC wrote:

>Certainly having the ALC 
>connected (if it were compatible) would be preferred..

It MAY be true for this amp, but at least some other amp mfrs advise 
against the use of ALC with their amps. They say that modern amps 
work fine without ALC if the operator is smart enough to turn down 
the drive so that the amp is operating properly (and an operator 
that isn't shouldn't be on the ham bands), and that depending on ALC 
to keep the drive level down as a routine matter will cause higher 
distortion than if the ALC was not used. Ten Tec is one of the mfrs 
that has published this in their manuals for at least 25 years. 

Now, I certainly do see the value of ALC as a protection mechanism 
in the case of a failure that causes serious antenna mismatch, but 
there are other ways to achieve that. 

73,

Jim Brown K9YC


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Re: FW: [Elecraft] K3 and StepIR/Icom PW-1

[Jerry Flanders]

I once blew up an unprotected amplifier's output circuit when a flaky 
antenna feed line opened with 1500 watts RTTY applied.  Prior to 
that, I didn't think I needed anything more than a hand on the drive 
level control to keep my amp safe.


Now I make sure the ALC is there so the amp can cut that drive within 
milliseconds if the antenna opens up again.


The K3 ALC fix is available from Elecraft. It works.

Jerry W4UK

At 12:00 AM 9/8/2008, Greg - N4CC wrote:
Adam -- I guess it depends on the user.  Certainly having the ALC 
connected (if it were compatible) would be preferred...but my point 
is that saying " the K3 should not be used as an exciter for the 
PW-1" [without ALC] is not entirely accurate.  it is possible to use 
the PW-1 without ALC.  It can be done and done quite 
safely.  Granted you lose a measure of protection but if you use the 
K3 as I do -- where it recalls the drive setting by band, a unique 
feature of the K3 -- it is less likely that not having the ALC 
connected will ever be an issue.   If you change the power settings 
frequently and are not careful to return them to the desired drive 
level when operating the amplifier then your chance of damaging the 
amp increases without the ALC.  Cheers.  73 de Greg


At 10:53 PM 9/7/2008, you wrote:

Hi Greg,

The PW1 uses the ALC loop as an essential part of its protective subsystem,
as described in the service manual excerpt  which I sent you. Any one of
several anomalous operating conditions (including over-drive and load
mismatch) will pull down the ALC line to reduce the drive. This is the
amplifier's first line of defence.

I would never put an expensive piece of equipment such as the PW1 at risk by
connecting it to an exciter without a fully-functional ALC loop.

Cheers for now, 73,
Adam VA7OJ/AB4OJ

-Original Message-
From: Greg - N4CC [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: 7-Sep-08 19:05
To: Adam Farson
Subject: Re: FW: [Elecraft] K3 and StepIR/Icom PW-1

I'm using the K3 with a PW-1 and the beauty of it is you don't need the ALC
if you use the K3's capacity to store the power level (drive
level) for each band.  Obviously if you use the K3 barefoot at 100 watts you
would have to be careful to turn it back down with the amp but I just leave
it at the saved settings that I have established for output for each band.
The proper drive level does vary somewhat by band.  You are right about the
ALC ..the K3 ALC is not compatible with the PW-1 and you should not connect
the ALC line between the two.  73 de Greg

At 09:08 PM 9/7/2008, you wrote:
>  Hi Tom,
>
>The K3 should not be used as an exciter for the PW1 unless the polarity
>of its external ALC input has been changed from positive-going
>(original) to negative-going (range 0 to -4V). Failure to heed this
>warning will result in extensive damage to the PW1, necessitating
>costly repairs (as much as
>$1800!)
>
>http://www.ab4oj.com/icom/main.html#alc
>
>Cheers for now, 73,
>Adam VA7OJ/AB4OJ
>

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RE: FW: [Elecraft] K3 and StepIR/Icom PW-1

[Adam Farson]

Hi Greg,

Still, I would feel a lot more comfortable were Elecraft to correct the
polarity of their external ALC input to the negative-going industry
standard. I understand that this modification is presently underway. 

Given the growing popularity of solid-state amplifiers (which all provide
negative-going ALC voltage, to my knowledge) I can think of no rational
reason for not making this change.

Cheers for now, 73,
Adam VA7OJ/AB4OJ


-Original Message-
From: Greg - N4CC [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] 
Sent: 7-Sep-08 21:00
To: Adam Farson
Cc: elecraft@mailman.qth.net
Subject: Re: FW: [Elecraft] K3 and StepIR/Icom PW-1

Adam -- I guess it depends on the user.  Certainly having the ALC connected
(if it were compatible) would be preferred...but my point is that saying "
the K3 should not be used as an exciter for the PW-1" [without ALC] is not
entirely accurate.  it is possible to use the PW-1 without ALC.  It can be
done and done quite safely.  Granted you lose a measure of protection but if
you use the K3 as I do -- where it recalls the drive setting by band, a
unique feature of the
K3 -- it is less likely that not having the ALC connected will ever 
be an issue.   If you change the power settings frequently and are 
not careful to return them to the desired drive level when operating the
amplifier then your chance of damaging the amp increases without the ALC.
Cheers.  73 de Greg

At 10:53 PM 9/7/2008, you wrote:
>Hi Greg,
>
>The PW1 uses the ALC loop as an essential part of its protective 
>subsystem, as described in the service manual excerpt  which I sent 
>you. Any one of several anomalous operating conditions (including 
>over-drive and load
>mismatch) will pull down the ALC line to reduce the drive. This is the 
>amplifier's first line of defence.
>
>I would never put an expensive piece of equipment such as the PW1 at 
>risk by connecting it to an exciter without a fully-functional ALC loop.
>
>Cheers for now, 73,
>Adam VA7OJ/AB4OJ
>
>-Original Message-
>From: Greg - N4CC [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
>Sent: 7-Sep-08 19:05
>To: Adam Farson
>Subject: Re: FW: [Elecraft] K3 and StepIR/Icom PW-1
>
>I'm using the K3 with a PW-1 and the beauty of it is you don't need the 
>ALC if you use the K3's capacity to store the power level (drive
>level) for each band.  Obviously if you use the K3 barefoot at 100 
>watts you would have to be careful to turn it back down with the amp 
>but I just leave it at the saved settings that I have established for
output for each band.
>The proper drive level does vary somewhat by band.  You are right about 
>the ALC ..the K3 ALC is not compatible with the PW-1 and you should not 
>connect the ALC line between the two.  73 de Greg
>
>At 09:08 PM 9/7/2008, you wrote:
> >  Hi Tom,
> >
> >The K3 should not be used as an exciter for the PW1 unless the 
> >polarity of its external ALC input has been changed from 
> >positive-going
> >(original) to negative-going (range 0 to -4V). Failure to heed this 
> >warning will result in extensive damage to the PW1, necessitating 
> >costly repairs (as much as
> >$1800!)
> >
> >http://www.ab4oj.com/icom/main.html#alc
> >
> >Cheers for now, 73,
> >Adam VA7OJ/AB4OJ
> >
>

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Re: FW: [Elecraft] K3 and StepIR/Icom PW-1

[Greg - N4CC]

Adam -- I guess it depends on the user.  Certainly having the ALC 
connected (if it were compatible) would be preferred...but my point 
is that saying " the K3 should not be used as an exciter for the 
PW-1" [without ALC] is not entirely accurate.  it is possible to use 
the PW-1 without ALC.  It can be done and done quite safely.  Granted 
you lose a measure of protection but if you use the K3 as I do -- 
where it recalls the drive setting by band, a unique feature of the 
K3 -- it is less likely that not having the ALC connected will ever 
be an issue.   If you change the power settings frequently and are 
not careful to return them to the desired drive level when operating 
the amplifier then your chance of damaging the amp increases without 
the ALC.  Cheers.  73 de Greg


At 10:53 PM 9/7/2008, you wrote:

Hi Greg,

The PW1 uses the ALC loop as an essential part of its protective subsystem,
as described in the service manual excerpt  which I sent you. Any one of
several anomalous operating conditions (including over-drive and load
mismatch) will pull down the ALC line to reduce the drive. This is the
amplifier's first line of defence.

I would never put an expensive piece of equipment such as the PW1 at risk by
connecting it to an exciter without a fully-functional ALC loop.

Cheers for now, 73,
Adam VA7OJ/AB4OJ

-Original Message-
From: Greg - N4CC [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: 7-Sep-08 19:05
To: Adam Farson
Subject: Re: FW: [Elecraft] K3 and StepIR/Icom PW-1

I'm using the K3 with a PW-1 and the beauty of it is you don't need the ALC
if you use the K3's capacity to store the power level (drive
level) for each band.  Obviously if you use the K3 barefoot at 100 watts you
would have to be careful to turn it back down with the amp but I just leave
it at the saved settings that I have established for output for each band.
The proper drive level does vary somewhat by band.  You are right about the
ALC ..the K3 ALC is not compatible with the PW-1 and you should not connect
the ALC line between the two.  73 de Greg

At 09:08 PM 9/7/2008, you wrote:
>  Hi Tom,
>
>The K3 should not be used as an exciter for the PW1 unless the polarity
>of its external ALC input has been changed from positive-going
>(original) to negative-going (range 0 to -4V). Failure to heed this
>warning will result in extensive damage to the PW1, necessitating
>costly repairs (as much as
>$1800!)
>
>http://www.ab4oj.com/icom/main.html#alc
>
>Cheers for now, 73,
>Adam VA7OJ/AB4OJ
>

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FW: [Elecraft] K3 and StepIR/Icom PW-1

[Adam Farson]

Hi Greg,

The PW1 uses the ALC loop as an essential part of its protective subsystem,
as described in the service manual excerpt  which I sent you. Any one of
several anomalous operating conditions (including over-drive and load
mismatch) will pull down the ALC line to reduce the drive. This is the
amplifier's first line of defence. 

I would never put an expensive piece of equipment such as the PW1 at risk by
connecting it to an exciter without a fully-functional ALC loop. 

Cheers for now, 73,
Adam VA7OJ/AB4OJ

-Original Message-
From: Greg - N4CC [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: 7-Sep-08 19:05
To: Adam Farson
Subject: Re: FW: [Elecraft] K3 and StepIR/Icom PW-1

I'm using the K3 with a PW-1 and the beauty of it is you don't need the ALC
if you use the K3's capacity to store the power level (drive
level) for each band.  Obviously if you use the K3 barefoot at 100 watts you
would have to be careful to turn it back down with the amp but I just leave
it at the saved settings that I have established for output for each band.
The proper drive level does vary somewhat by band.  You are right about the
ALC ..the K3 ALC is not compatible with the PW-1 and you should not connect
the ALC line between the two.  73 de Greg

At 09:08 PM 9/7/2008, you wrote:
>  Hi Tom,
>
>The K3 should not be used as an exciter for the PW1 unless the polarity 
>of its external ALC input has been changed from positive-going
>(original) to negative-going (range 0 to -4V). Failure to heed this 
>warning will result in extensive damage to the PW1, necessitating 
>costly repairs (as much as
>$1800!)
>
>http://www.ab4oj.com/icom/main.html#alc
>
>Cheers for now, 73,
>Adam VA7OJ/AB4OJ
>

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Re: FW: [Elecraft] K3 and StepIR/Icom PW-1

[Greg - N4CC]

I'm using the K3 with a PW-1 and the beauty of it is you don't need 
the ALC if you use the K3's capacity to store the power level (drive 
level) for each band.  Obviously if you use the K3 barefoot at 100 
watts you would have to be careful to turn it back down with the amp 
but I just leave it at the saved settings that I have established for 
output for each band.  The proper drive level does vary somewhat by 
band.  You are right about the ALC ..the K3 ALC is not compatible 
with the PW-1 and you should not connect the ALC line between the 
two.  73 de Greg


At 09:08 PM 9/7/2008, you wrote:

 Hi Tom,

The K3 should not be used as an exciter for the PW1 unless the polarity of
its external ALC input has been changed from positive-going (original) to
negative-going (range 0 to -4V). Failure to heed this warning will result in
extensive damage to the PW1, necessitating costly repairs (as much as
$1800!)

http://www.ab4oj.com/icom/main.html#alc

Cheers for now, 73,
Adam VA7OJ/AB4OJ

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FW: [Elecraft] K3 and StepIR/Icom PW-1

[Adam Farson]

 Hi Tom,

The K3 should not be used as an exciter for the PW1 unless the polarity of
its external ALC input has been changed from positive-going (original) to
negative-going (range 0 to -4V). Failure to heed this warning will result in
extensive damage to the PW1, necessitating costly repairs (as much as
$1800!)

http://www.ab4oj.com/icom/main.html#alc

Cheers for now, 73,
Adam VA7OJ/AB4OJ

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Fw: [Elecraft] K3 antenna tiner related question

[Ken Kopp]

John,

Yes, it does happen in ATU bypass mode.  I wonder if there's
some relationship to the RX input overload circuit?  There are 
no other antennas connected to the radio.  Perhaps there's

some relationship to the unshielded wires going to the two coax
connectors that are currently being discussed ... I converted the
jacks to BNC's when the kit was built and the next time I have
it open I plan to replace the two unshielded leads with RG-174. 
Unfortunately, I can't say if this is a "new" condition, as I can't
hear the relay clicking in my "mornal" operating posture.  It may 
well have been with me since the first turn-on. (:-)


Ken
---

Does it happen in the bypass mode?

I wonder if there may be a little SWR left after the tune cycle, and 
when you key, the ATU tries to take it out.


John
k7up


At 08:51 PM 16/07/08, you wrote:


A relay in the area of the antenna tuner in my K3 (S/N 56)
is clicking randomly on several bands as I send CW.  It
does -not- follow the CW keying and seems to be totally
random in nature.  The "click rate" isn't related to keying
speed, either.  T/R change-over delay isn't involved. I've
had no reports of keying anomalies when on the air, and
it sounds normal in my K2's receiver.  There is only one antenna 
cable connected to the radio, to "ANT 1"


Does anyone else observe this?  It's quiet ... the only way
I became aware of it was when I accidently bumped the key
while I was leaning over the radio doing something behind it.

73! Ken Kopp - K0PP
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Fw: [Elecraft] K3 - SSB levels

[ORIN G. HELVEY,JR.]

I noticed this same thing after upgrading my firmware to 1.88/1.70. I
have been waiting to see if it was just me, or if someone else is
experiencing it. It is not a big problem, but happens every time I power
down, and then back up. Turning the power knob slightly, and then back,
fixes it.

Orin   N5ORT
S/N 684



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From: "Mike Harris" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To: 
Date: Sat, 14 Jun 2008 10:53:51 -0400
Subject: [Elecraft] K3 - SSB levels
Message-ID: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>

Hi,

Something else I've been meaning to mention for a while and I've not 
pinned down the exact circumstances yet.  Occasionally when changing to 
SSB the CMP and ALC doesn't seem as lively as normal.  Just by turning
the 
mic gain up a unit and then back to the previous setting i.e.. from 25 to

26 then back to 25 the liveliness seems to return.

I've not noticed if the measured output changes, as mentioned above, not 
fully characterised yet but something is happening.

Regards,

Mike VP8NO 

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FW: [Elecraft] K3: Is it wrong?

[Dick Dievendorff]

David, G4DMP wrote: What I cannot understand why all stations are 5NN in
contests, when they could be 5DN, 5BN or worse. ;-|

David:

I'm a contester, and I'll tell you why I send 5NN to everyone, regardless of
their actual signal strength:

The contest rules often require "a signal report". There is no requirement
for an ACCURATE signal report.

My objective in a contest is to work stations rapidly and record accurately
the required contest exchange. I don't care what my real RST is. It's either
"I can hear you well enough to log you" or "call me back when you get a real
antenna".

For contests where the exchange is non-trivial (let's say a serial number is
involved), it's much more difficult to get that part accurately than
someone's call sign (especially if you have access to a list of well known
call signs).  If you additionally had to accurately record a varying signal
report, it reduces QSO rate and potentially increases the error rate.

If I'm working someone I can't hear well, I can sometimes get his call sign
after a few tries, and then lose the QSO because I can't get the serial
number.  It's frustrating.  One of us may have a bad QSO in our log.  In
years past I might have guessed. Usually these days I erase the QSO unless
I'm sure. Maybe the other guy didn't erase the QSO if he heard my exchange,
and our "busted QSO" might cause him a penalty because I erased it. In
contests that have a geographic zone as the exchange, I don't often lose a
QSO with someone in Japan because I can't figure out their contest exchange.

I don't seek an "honest" signal report. I want 5NN.  It is transmitted
because it is a required part of the contest exchange, not because it has
any value to me.

And we do understand the humor of this.  After struggling for a long period
to get a needed weak signal multiplier, you'll sometimes hear "what's my
REAL signal report". Or "you're five nine 3. What's your call again? You're
very weak and there's a lot of noise".

No contest log checker I'm aware of verifies signal reports in contest logs.
They check call signs and serial numbers (SS checks more). Some contesters
may choose to log a nonstandard received signal report as 5NN without
penalty.

73 de Dick, K6KR


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FW: [Elecraft] K3 Beta Firmware Revision 2.02

[Tom Doligalski]

-Original Message-
From: Tom Doligalski [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] 
Sent: Sunday, June 08, 2008 7:29 AM
To: 'Dave G4AON'
Subject: RE: [Elecraft] K3 Beta Firmware Revision 2.02

I think you'll find that Channel Hopping on the K3 will work just as you
wish try this:

1. Load your frequencies in consecutive memory channels, being sure to use
the asterisk "*" text label.
2. Recall any one of these using M>V.
3. Now, just use VFO A to cycle through your consecutive frequencies... 

73, Tom W4KX

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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Dave G4AON
Sent: Sunday, June 08, 2008 2:08 AM
To: elecraft@mailman.qth.net
Subject: [Elecraft] K3 Beta Firmware Revision 2.02

"Channel hopping" doesn't seem to offer anything useful to me. It would have
been nice if rotating VFO A not only displayed the frequency stored but
instantly assigned it to a VFO so the K3 could be used in the same manner as
a crystal controlled transceiver (without having to press M-V again). As the
K3 lacks a V/M switch, I guess it will not operate in a channelised manner
any time soon.

73 Dave
K3/100 #80


K3 beta-test firmware revision 2.02 is now available. It includes one new
feature (channel hopping, especially useful on 60 meters) and a correction
to CW/VOX behavior.
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Fw: [Elecraft] K3 no issues with output power on ssb!

[n4lq]

Is the K3's wattmeter a "peak reading" type? If so, it only kicks up to
about 50 watts until I increase the TXG VCE to 3 db which makes it double 
to

100 watts. So far, audio reports are good. Someone here reported distortion
of some kind when doing this however. I really need a proper external peak
reading meter to check this. Most of them I read about are not accurate. I
might order the Palstar. It seems to have a good reputation.
Steve Ellington
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- Original Message - 
From: "Fern Rivard" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>

To: "Elecraft Reflector" 
Sent: Thursday, May 08, 2008 11:07 PM
Subject: [Elecraft] no issues with output power on ssb!


   I fail to understand what the big complaint is with low ssb power with 
your K3. My K3 is serial 4XX and have had it for approximately 2 months. 
My output power is identical on ssb as it is on cw. I have refused to 
download any of the new firmware as my radio has been working great as it. 
I am anxiously waiting a version of firmware that doesn't have any bugs 
left in it and I will then upgrade.

   Just my 2 cents worth from FernVE7GZ



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FW: [Elecraft] K3 #764 experience and critique

[Thomas Norff]

Shure...

based on my emails with elecraft i thought i am the only one with this
'features'... ;o)
To be honest these issues are not really a big problem for me.
Overall this is a unbelievable piece of hardware !

73 de Thomas, DM7TN

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From: Windy Dankoff [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] 
Sent: Tuesday, April 29, 2008 9:19 AM
To: Thomas Norff
Subject: Re: [Elecraft] K3 #764 experience and critique

Thanks very much, Thomas! Will you please post your reply to the group? I
think it will help confirm the need to make some improvements.

73 de Windy KM5Q

On Apr 28, 2008, at 11:36 PM, Thomas Norff wrote:

> Hi Windy,
>
> maybe i can share my experiences building my K3 #78.
>
> point 3:  i had the same issue and solved it by replacing the inside- 
> tooth lock washer with the second nut. That means i first installed 
> the nut to the encoder and the second one as mentioned in the manual. 
> This way the encoder is fixed to the front panel. Like it is done with 
> the VFO B endcoder. The encoder shaft will be 'shorter' and you have 
> to take care while mounting the knob cause you are missing the second 
> nut as an arrester. Check the encoder pins !
>
> point 4: same here... if you swing the K3 you can hear the large 
> washer...ignored that... maybe another small washer can prevent that ?
>
> point 9:  i had the chance to check mine with a quite accurate 
> measurement equipment. At 14.200 MHz i am 7Hz off !!
> The alignment method is working... i used a local AM broadcast 
> station.
>
> The only issue with my K3 is a not working LED (CUT-LO-LED). The next 
> time i disassemble it for including the second receiver i will fix 
> this.
>
> 73 de Thomas, DM7TN
>
> -Original Message-
> From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] 
> [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of KM5Q
> Sent: Monday, April 28, 2008 8:17 PM
> To: elecraft@mailman.qth.net
> Subject: [Elecraft] K3 #764 experience and critique
>
> First, I'm delighted with the whole K3 experience. It's a brilliant 
> product, worth the wait.
>
> I have a few issues and suggestions:
>
> 1. Several times I found myself doing a complex assembly step in my 
> hands while reading the instructions. An important point would show up 
> late in the paragraph, and I wished I had read it all first (but I 
> couldn't resist). If important points were emphasized in BOLD print, I 
> would have  been more likely to read them first.
>
> 2. The final multi-plugging of the front panel was the only challenge 
> I experienced. I knew it would be tricky, after reading about it in 
> the reflector. Because I knew this, I took extra time and did it with 
> confidence. Had I NOT known it was tricky, I would have felt clumsy 
> and frustrated. I suggest noting in the instructions that this IS a 
> tricky step and if the builder is getting tired, take a break first, 
> and take it SLOW.
>
> 3. VFO A encoder uses an inside-tooth lock washer on each side of its 
> mount.
> This caused mine to come out slightly off-90° when tightened (using a 
> box-end wrench). I noticed it only when I mounted the knob with the 
> felt washer and it rubbed on one side. I spaced it out slightly 
> further with cardboard. It's OK, but this could have been avoided 
> somehow.
>
> 4. Headphone jack on front panel isn't tight enough. Instructions are 
> to tighten the ring-nut only finger-tight. I have pretty strong 
> fingers, but that doesn't do the trick. If I use a hex-nut, will it 
> squeeze the panel too much?
>
> 5. K3 is advertised as a no-solder kit, so it should not require 
> soldering (or a $100 crimp tool) to make the Powerpole connection.
> That should be done at the factory.
>
> I soldered mine, using high temp. quickly, so it wouldn't wick much 
> solder up the cable. A builder who does not have good soldering skills 
> is likely to have trouble.
>
> 6. KUSB adapter instructions make no mention of Mac application.  
> They should
> mention that the Prolific.com site has driver download for Mac OSX as 
> well as other PCs, and that it is necessary.
>
> 7. When I turn down the compression, the power goes down with it. It 
> should be equalized.
>
> 8. When I tune out of a ham band to listen elsewhere, then hit band 
> switch, band switch will not return to the nearby ham band, but to the 
> out- of-band frequency. Others reported this a few days ago. I expect 
> that will get fixed in firmware.
>
> 9. I did frequency calibration by zero-beat method with WWV. I tuned 
> the wrong way and didn't know it would take many turns. I didn't write 
> down the original setting, so I got "lost". I waited until I had a 
> steadier WWV signal, then went in the other direction and got it 
> perfect. I suggest that the instructions say that it may take many 
> turns of the knob, and that you should write down the original setting 
> first.
>
> In conclusion, the only issue I'm left with is the loose headphone 
> jack. Not too bad!
>
> I have a Kenwood MC-43S fist mike with the 8-pin connector standard. 

Fw: [Elecraft] K3 - That sacred date

[Ken Kopp]

I'll wager that few --- if any --- owners of Yakenom can
quote the S/N's of their radio(s) either ... (:-))

73! Ken Kopp - K0PP

K2 #5665
K3 #56

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Fw: [Elecraft] K3: preview of coming attractions

[Gil Cross]

- Original Message - 
From: "wayne burdick" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>

To: "Elecraft Reflector" 
Sent: Thursday, April 10, 2008 8:47 PM
Subject: [Elecraft] K3: preview of coming attractions



Hi all,

I'm leaving Saturday for a long-planned 10-day vacation. I thought we'd 
be doing another firmware update before I left. Instead, we'll give our 
intrepid field testers more time with this new code, then release it 
when I get back.


Here's a sneak preview. All of these features have been fully 
implemented:


 - transmit RF delay for slow amplifier relays
 - FM mode, complete with per-band/per-memory PL tones and repeater 
splits

 - wider-bandwidth AM and SSB receive
 - further improvements to SSB transmit, including a boost in 
low-frequency response
 - "absolute" S-meter alternative (reading stays the same with 
preamp/attn changes)

 - a variation on LIN OUT that allows recording of both RX and TX audio
 - MIC+LINE IN operation for SSB contesters
 - reflected-power-based KPA3 amplifier protection

Many of these have been on the short list for a long time, so we're 
anxious to get this major release into your hands. Full details will be 
provided in the release notes.


73,
Wayne
N6KR


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Re: Fw: [Elecraft] K3 CW Dual PB

[Stewart Baker]

I think that it got fixed, then broke in the latest FW release.

73
Stewart G3RXQ
On Fri, 21 Mar 2008 16:32:17 -0400, Van W1WCG wrote:
>
> Strange, Stewart, that's just the way it sounds, also.  I've
listened
> with this mode engaged on several occasions now, and I can't
really
> observe the dual passband effect.  Moreover, the shift control
seems
> to be disabled, and the width control moves the outer bands but
does
> not seem to affect the actual passband at all, judging only by
listening.
>
> Firmware versions MCU 1.78 DSP 1.58
>
> 73, Van W1WCG
> K3 #42
>
>> - Original Message -
>> From: "Stewart Baker" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
>> To: "Elecraft Reflector" 
>> Sent: Friday, March 21, 2008 1:17 PM
>> Subject: [Elecraft] K3 CW Dual PB
>>
>>
>> Looking with Spectrum Lab on CW with DPB selected all I can see
is
>> one filter passband. Thought I should see 3, one center and one
>> either side. :-(
>>
>> 73
>> Stewart G3RXQ
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Fw: [Elecraft] K3 CW Dual PB

[Van W1WCG]

Strange, Stewart, that's just the way it sounds, also.  I've listened
with this mode engaged on several occasions now, and I can't really
observe the dual passband effect.  Moreover, the shift control seems
to be disabled, and the width control moves the outer bands but does
not seem to affect the actual passband at all, judging only by listening.

Firmware versions MCU 1.78 DSP 1.58

73, Van W1WCG
K3 #42

- Original Message - 
From: "Stewart Baker" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>

To: "Elecraft Reflector" 
Sent: Friday, March 21, 2008 1:17 PM
Subject: [Elecraft] K3 CW Dual PB


Looking with Spectrum Lab on CW with DPB selected all I can see is 
one filter passband. Thought I should see 3, one center and one 
either side. :-(


73
Stewart G3RXQ
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Fw: [Elecraft] K3 -Firmware Downloader 1.1.3.6

[aa1o]

I down loaded OK with the old version, but still don't know how to get the 
new version of the loader??

Bill
- Original Message - 
From: "Eric Swartz - WA6HHQ, Elecraft" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>

To: "John Reiser" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Cc: 
Sent: Friday, March 07, 2008 5:56 PM
Subject: Re: [Elecraft] K3 -Firmware Downloader 1.1.3.6



Hi John,

Your K3 isn;t damaged. :-)

The 1.28 loader should be fine. If you are having CPU lockup problems, 
that may be due to a comm driver version issue if you are using a USB to 
Serial adapter like the KUSB. If you have the KUSB, you absolutely need to 
be using the latest drivers. They are noted in the install notes for the 
KUSB and on our K3 software page. They can be found at:


http://www.prolific.com.tw/eng/downloads.asp?ID=31

73, Eric  WA6HHQ
---



John Reiser wrote:
How can I download the latest K3 download utility revision 1.1.3.6?  It 
is not on the Elecraft website.  I tried to update my K3 firmware with 
the previous version of the utility.  It found the files OK, and 
seemingly updated the MCU with 1.75.  But then it locked up the computer 
while downloading the DSP with 1.57.  I had to do a hardware reset.


Now my K3 doesn't work.  I trust that it is not permanently damaged.  I 
think that if I can get the latest loader utility, everything will be 
fine.


Thanks and 73,

John, W2GW


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Fw: [Elecraft] K3 Line-In for PSK31 not working

[Ken Kopp]

Ah Ha!  This explains the "sloppy" fit 

73! Ken Kopp - K0PP

Alan -

I have used PSK31, MFSK16 and RTTY using Hamscope with no problems.
However, the rear panel LINE IN (mono) and LINE OUT (stereo) jacks are
3.5mm,  NOT the old trusty 1/8 inch (they are slightly larger).  I
initially used
some 1/8" plugs I had, and they worked, but were loose and prone to poor
connection.  I ordered 3.5mm plugs from  Mouser and they fit FB.

Bill - K4DXU


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Fw: [Elecraft] K3 Performance

[David Yarnes]

Oh yes.  Perhaps I should have mentioned that.  I do have the KBPF3
installed--and the 6 khz filter also.  From about 750 khz or so the radio is
very good.  It's just that bottom 200 khz or so that it seems to drop off.

Dave W7AQK

- Original Message - 
From: "Tom Hammond" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>

To: "David Yarnes" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Sent: Saturday, December 29, 2007 8:58 AM
Subject: Re: [Elecraft] K3 Performance

If you don't have the KBPF3 (general coverage BPF) installed, the K3 is 
quite
"DEAF" outside the ham bands, and EXTREMELY DEAF if you go REALLY FAR 
outside

the ham bands.

73,

Tom   N0SS



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FW: [Elecraft] K3 AM mode

[Joe Stofko]

 

Everyone has applauded Wayne and Eric (and rightfully so) for their hard
work

and dedication that goes above and beyond expectations to provide the world

amateur radio community with exceptional products.   This, of course,

includes the K3 which, I think, is destined to become THE standard, by 

which all other "world class" transceivers are measured. 

 

I think it's time to give a heavy measure of thanks to Lyle Johnson and

the team of software gurus who continue to refine the K3's firmware with

improvements and new features.  Man, but I am thoroughly impressed.
And, I don't even have my K3, yet!!!  (Probably not by Christmas but,

hopefully, in time for my birthday in January)  ;-)  

Hats off to everyone at Elecraft.  What a ride !!  And, I'll bet, the 

best is yet to come.

Joe - WB1AIU

 

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FW: [Elecraft] K3 f/w updates and Keyspan USB to serial port adapter

[Dick Dievendorff]

My K3 back panel RS-232 connector is female.  The USB to serial adapter I
have is male.  The m-f cable I have works fine.

I'm not sure what picture you're looking at. I looked at the data sheet and
it wasn't immediately clear to me which gender they were. The K3 15-pin
accessory connector is also female.


73 de Dick, K6KR




-Original Message-
From: John Reiser [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] 
Sent: Tuesday, December 11, 2007 6:13 PM
To: Dick Dievendorff; elecraft@mailman.qth.net
Subject: Re: [Elecraft] K3 f/w updates and Keyspan USB to serial port
adapter

Hi Dick,

I have a serial m-f straight-through cable that has screws on both DB-9s. 
However, I see from the picture of the K3 rear panel that the RS232 
connector is male.  I looked at my Keyspan USA 19HS adapter and found that 
it is also male.  So to make it work I would need a f-f serial cable.

I think that I should order a KUSB, which is exactly what I was trying to 
determine.

I appreciate yours and everyone's help with this.

John, W2GW


- Original Message - 
From: "Dick Dievendorff" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To: "'John Reiser'" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Sent: Tuesday, December 11, 2007 8:37 PM
Subject: RE: [Elecraft] K3 f/w updates and Keyspan USB to serial port 
adapter


>I suspect you'll be quite happy with your Keyspan, as long as you have a
> serial m-f cable that you can use to fasten the connectors together.  You
> may have difficulty inserting the Keyspan DB-9 directly into the back of 
> the
> K3 as both connectors have nuts.
>
> You can decide later, of course, and order a KUSB if you feel you need it 
> at
> the same time you order your next K3 option...
>
> 73 de Dick, K6KR
>
>
> 



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FW: [Elecraft] K3 firmware DSP2 N/A?

[Dick Dievendorff]

"Available" means that there is a corresponding file (hauxsomething)
available in your firmware folder.  I made some attempt in the Help section
on the Firmware topic to describe what the columns (and DSP2) mean.  I know
nobody reads help (I rarely do), but I did make an attempt in the Help file
to describe each page.

The K3 Utility is used by Elecraft firmware development, production, and
testers.  That's good, because it gets pounded heavily by a demanding
audience.  Every K3 that leaves Aptos is pre-loaded with firmware using this
utility.  

I have to enable certain utility features before the corresponding hardware
is generally available so that the firmware developers can use the utility
for their daily work.  They have other ways of loading firmware, but have
found some of the features of the K3 Utility a convenient timesaver.  The
command macros get a lot of use.

We could have opted for different utility software for internal use versus
customer use.  But we thought it better to have one development path, and in
some support cases it's convenient to have a fully capable utility
installed.  One product, with the same capability everywhere, satisfies that
need. And there aren't very many of us doing this software development
effort.  

73 de Dick, K6KR

  
-Original Message-
From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Bill Tippett
Sent: Wednesday, December 12, 2007 3:39 AM
To: elecraft@mailman.qth.net
Subject: AW: [Elecraft] K3 firmware DSP2 N/A?

>DSP2 is for the 2nd Receiver

If that is true for the unavailable KRX3, why not treat it identical

to DVR which is also unavailable?  Seems confusing to display unavailable 
options in two different ways.


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Re: FW: [Elecraft] K3 f/w updates and Keyspan USB to serial port adapter

[Ian White GM3SEK]

Mike Fatchett W0MU wrote:


Or buy an adapter at radio shack...Gender changers.

Better still, make yourself a universal gender-changer/extension-cable. 
Buy two male DB9 connectors for ribbon cable, and two female, then 
squeeze them onto a foot of 9-way ribbon cable like this:


M==F==M==F

Take great care about the polarity and orientation of the connectors - 
they must follow "pin 1 to pin1" all the way.


It's a very handy thing to have around the shack.


--

73 from Ian GM3SEK 'In Practice' columnist for RadCom (RSGB)
http://www.ifwtech.co.uk/g3sek
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FW: [Elecraft] K3 f/w updates and Keyspan USB to serial port adapter

[Mike Fatchett W0MU]

-- Forwarded Message
From: Mike Fatchett W0MU <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Date: Tue, 11 Dec 2007 19:27:22 -0700
To: John Reiser <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Conversation: [Elecraft] K3 f/w updates and Keyspan USB to serial port
adapter
Subject: Re: [Elecraft] K3 f/w updates and Keyspan USB to serial port
adapter

Or buy an adapter at radio shack...Gender changers.


On 12/11/07 7:13 PM, "John Reiser" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:

> Hi Dick,
> 
> I have a serial m-f straight-through cable that has screws on both DB-9s.
> However, I see from the picture of the K3 rear panel that the RS232
> connector is male.  I looked at my Keyspan USA 19HS adapter and found that
> it is also male.  So to make it work I would need a f-f serial cable.
> 
> I think that I should order a KUSB, which is exactly what I was trying to
> determine.
> 
> I appreciate yours and everyone's help with this.
> 
> John, W2GW
> 
> 
> - Original Message -
> From: "Dick Dievendorff" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> To: "'John Reiser'" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> Sent: Tuesday, December 11, 2007 8:37 PM
> Subject: RE: [Elecraft] K3 f/w updates and Keyspan USB to serial port
> adapter
> 
> 
>> I suspect you'll be quite happy with your Keyspan, as long as you have a
>> serial m-f cable that you can use to fasten the connectors together.  You
>> may have difficulty inserting the Keyspan DB-9 directly into the back of
>> the
>> K3 as both connectors have nuts.
>> 
>> You can decide later, of course, and order a KUSB if you feel you need it
>> at
>> the same time you order your next K3 option...
>> 
>> 73 de Dick, K6KR
>> 
>> 
>> 
> 
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Fw: [Elecraft] K3 problem with logging program after download upgrade

[Ken Kopp]

Could this account for the "Intel Hex file ran out of bytes before Intel
End file record was read" -and- "Intel Hex Read error: Expected start
characher ":" not found" messages when attempting (unsuccessfully)
to load the new upgrade into my K3?

73! Ken Kopp - K0PP
[EMAIL PROTECTED]



- Original Message - 
From: Don Rasmussen

To: elecraft@mailman.qth.net
Sent: Tuesday, 04 December, 2007 05:40
Subject: [Elecraft] K3 problem with logging program after download 
upgrade



Hi, Buck.

The K3 Utility attempts to communicate with the MCU initially to
establish its baud rate.  This is done by sending a small command
at each of the supported speeds. 

Soapbox ON.

IMO - This is a tragic WASTE of BITS.

And this happens every time there is an update?

Calculate the number of updates over the life of the
radio, now how big is the bit bucket - remembering
ASCII is 7 bits per character plus parity plus start
bits and stop bit.

Could be some major overflow problems when folks least
expect it... 



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Fw: [Elecraft] K3 display for contesters

[waltk8cv4612amos]

Might there be a user setting or mode setting where when pushed or 
implemented a completely new radio setting for contesting could be selected 
along with a totally different display set of functions ?


Walt K8CV Royal Oak, MI.

- Original Message - 
From: "Ed Muns" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>

To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Cc: 
Sent: Friday, November 30, 2007 6:40 PM
Subject: RE: [Elecraft] K3 display for contesters



On the one hand, I've done a lot of contesting with the K3 since July and
have survived without these displays.  Bandwidth is indicated in two ways,
both the crystal filter setting and the filter bandwidth icon giving
relative width.  I quickly adapted to this UI and feel pretty comfortable
with it.  One worry is if I've adjusted the DSP bandwidth to an 
intermediate

value between crystal filters ... what is it?  But in contesting, I mostly
just want to be sure I'm at a known bandwidth and for that I can hit the
XFIL button or use the two PRESETs.

OTOH, I agree that the parameter displays you describe below are very 
useful

in contesting where you don't want to take time to turn controls back and
forth to activate their display momentarily.  This input is already in the
K3 firmware hopper and Wayne will deal with some of them in a future
release.  For example, there might be a configuration parameter to
constantly display RIT offset in the VFO-B display area.  Or, functions 
for
each of the controls you mention, e.g., POWER, that can be assigned to a 
PF

button for instant display in the VFO-B area.

73,
Ed - W0YK


-Original Message-
From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Dick Green WC1M
Sent: Friday, 30 November, 2007 15:09
To: elecraft@mailman.qth.net
Subject: [Elecraft] K3 display for contesters

N1EU recently posted a query about the lack of a full-time
bandwidth display. Many replied that all you have to do is
turn a knob to see the current bandwidth. Evidently, this
also applies to a number of other operating parameters,
including output power(!)



This is all well-and-good for casual operating and DXing, but
it's a real liability for serious contesters. In a contest,
the last thing I want to do is take my hands off the
keyboard. I need to be able to see certain important
transceiver setting with a quick glance in order to make a
decision whether or not to move my hands. Bandwidth is one of
the settings I need to know, and the roofing filter selection
isn't sufficient -- I need to know the ultimate selectivity
provided by the DSP. I haven't had time to study the K3
manual in depth, but there are many parameters that need to
be available at-a-glance: both VFO frequencies, bandwidth,
shift/PBT, RIT/XIT power, vox, AGC, RF Gain, preamp, notch,
NB, receive antenna status, power, etc.



Basically, you need to be able to see any setting that might
affect transmission or reception. For example, if the
bandwidth is too narrow, and you don't realize it, you may
not hear stations calling slightly off frequency, or they'll
be significantly attenuated. You could have a similar effect
if the notch was inadvertently left on. I can't be required
to remember the last change I made to the settings, which
might have been hours ago. Also, I use two radios and it's
impossible to memorize the settings for both of them. I can't
afford to spend time twiddling knobs to determine the current
state of the transceiver.



Are the LCD display fields fixed, like on older displays, or
are all the pixels under firmware control? If the display is
fixed, the lack of status displays could be a real problem.



73, Dick WC1M

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FW: [Elecraft] [K3] Can you turn a filter off

[Craig Rairdin]

> occurred to me (they do sometimes), in order to do A/B comparisons 
> once I have my K3, can you leave a filter in place, but turn it 
> 'off' via config menu, so the K3 effectively ignores it?

Yes.

The last time I tried this I had to then exit the menu and readjust the
width to get it to actually shut off. So if I'm sitting at 400 hz with my
400 hz filter enabled, then go to CONFIG and disable the 400 hz filter, I
would have to exit CONFIG, turn the width up or down one click, then back to
400 hz.

It's my understanding that a firmware change either has been made or will be
made that will allow you to manipulate this in real time. I haven't
downloaded the latest firmware so I'm not sure. And I'm not sure I'm
necessarily understanding the change correctly so I could be wrong.

Craig
K3/100 #25

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Fw: [Elecraft] K3 - any CTCSS encoding and decoding function

[Ken Kopp]

CTCSS is also needed on 10M FM frequencies.

73! Ken Kopp - K0PP
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- Original Message - 
From: Siu Johnny

To: elecraft@mailman.qth.net
Sent: Sunday, 09 September, 2007 13:55
Subject: [Elecraft] K3 - any CTCSS encoding and decoding function


Is there any CTCSS function in the K3?  It is important to have this
function when using K3 with XV144 under FM mode.

Can anybody give me an answer?

73

Johnny Siu VR2XMC

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Fw: [Elecraft] K3 RX only in port - Summary

[Dave G4GED]

Many Thanks to everybody that responded, both via the Reflector and 
privately.


To summarise, it seems the most straightforward and economical way of 
achieving my requirement is to purchase the KXV3 transverter i/f,  (or 
optionally, but more expensive, the KAT3 ATU).
Altho' I have no need for either of these, the KXV3 does offer other 
funtionality that may be useful to me in the future.


Wayne has announced that he will be drafting a set of drawings shortly, 
illustrating the various Antenna port configurations. This will be a great 
help to us all.
There are still many other functionality queries revolving around in my head 
so really looking forward to publication of the K3 Manual and/or an in-depth 
Review in QST or other Ham Mag.


Thanks again Guys
73 Dave

.
- Original Message - 



Simply put, my primary initial use for the K3 would be for 160m DXing 
using seperate RX antennas, so an RX-only i/p port is essential.


Please dont confuse me with too many fancy options. If I order the basic 
unit+ Sub rcvr, what's the  minimum accessory  I need to order to provide 
a RX-only i/p port function for the use intended above?




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Re: Fw: [Elecraft] K3: 21st century assembly "manual"

[Leigh L. Klotz, Jr.]

In the "thinking of things for other people to do" department, I took a 
sight-line using Google Earth from your QTH and it looks like you may 
have a straight shot to an industrial area in south west Butte, if you 
can get a 2.4GHz link up there to your tower.  (Kevin KD5ONS would 
probably have to chop down a few too many trees to try this.)

73,
Leigh/WA5ZNU

Ken Kopp wrote:

Har Har!  (:-))

I live in a small unincorporated community of about 400 houses.


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Fw: [Elecraft] K3: 21st century assembly "manual"

[Ken Kopp]

Har Har!  (:-))

I live in a small unincorporated community of about 400 houses.
There's a small cable system with about 40 customers and there's
never going to be an improvement.  We're Dish Network subscribers.

45K dial-up is blazing fast service here.

The same is true in the Oregon State Parks where we host for the
six winter months.  Dial-up only.

Satellite-delivered Internet service is far too costly for us ... about
$1500 up-front equipment costs and $50-70/month ... w/o TV, BTW.

- Original Message - 
From: Lyle Johnson

To: Ken Kopp
Cc: elecraft@mailman.qth.net
Sent: Thursday, 26 July, 2007 02:42
Subject: Re: [Elecraft] K3: 21st century assembly "manual"



The reality is that many of us are confined to dial-up and always will
be.  (;-(


Say it isn't true!  Can't you get BPL, the answer to everything, in your
area?

Lyle KK7P

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FW: [Elecraft] K3 Tools / Manual

[Edward Dickinson III]

Hi Ken and Bob...perhaps others. 

It occurred to me that when some order a K3, some might want to have their
tools ready and an appropriate area prepared awaiting its arrival.  Some
wouldn't want to find themselves at midnight not recalling where they had
last stored a perhaps required appliance.  Of course, that wouldn't happen
to a well organized ham.

And, really guys...  I forgive your knee-jerk, gangsterish attempts to
belittle and negate on this public reflector as I realize they are part of a
life script that won't change.  

Heck...who needs QCAOers..?


Regards,
Dick - KA5KKT/4


-Original Message-
Hopefully the manual will include a list of necessary tools.


Regards,
Dick - KA5KKT/4

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Subject: [Elecraft] K3 Tools / Manual

At one time there was mention of "a Phillips screwdriver" being the only
tool required.

If one needs a list of required tools to go buy 'em in preparation for the
task I wonder if one should be undertaking the task. (:-)) I suppose there
"might" be a ham w/o tools . naah, doubt it. (:-))

73! Ken Kopp - K0PP
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-Yet Another Original Message-

Maybe someone about to leave the ranks of the QCAO!

73 - Bob, N7XY

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