Re: [Elecraft] K3 Wish List - XIT tell-tale
It's always fabulous to hear that kind of consideration, Wayne! Apropos to the perfect pitch discussion a few weeks back, I suffer/enjoy audio/visual synesthesia, and blinking things annoy the crap out of me! On Sun, 1 Jan 2012, Wayne Burdick wrote: > Hi Tom, > > There are LCD icons for both RIT and XIT. XIT is rarely used, and > you'd think that those who do use it would be motivated to keep an eye > on both the XIT icon and the Delta-F LED. That said, I'll add to my > list consideration of flashing the XIT icon and/or the Delta-F LED. I > have to be careful with such changes because of unintended side > effects and the annoyance factor. It would certainly need a menu entry > for disabling this behavior. > > 73, > Wayne > N6KR > > > On Jan 1, 2012, at 11:07 AM, Tom Boucher wrote: > >> I guess Elecraft are now beyond wanting to make relatively minor >> changes to the K3 as it is now a mature product, but how about this? >> On two occasions recently I have been in QSO with a weak distant >> station on 160 or 80 and a very loud EU has come up on the same >> frequency with a QRL? On my reply of 'R Pse QSY' the other station >> ignores me and begins a long and loud CQ thus wiping out the one I'm >> trying to work. Both times I established that the interfering >> station was using a K3 and had inadvertently left the 'XIT' function >> on, thus transmitting on a different frequency to that he was >> listening on. >> >> The yellow 'delta f' tell-tale LED is there to tell you that either >> the RIT or XIT function is on, but if you are already using the RIT >> function, there is nothing to tell you that XIT is also on. Would it >> be a simple firmware mod to make the lamp flash on and off when XIT >> is active? >> >> 73 >> Tom G3OLB >> __ > __ > Elecraft mailing list > Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft > Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm > Post: mailto:Elecraft@mailman.qth.net > > This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net > Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html > __ Elecraft mailing list Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm Post: mailto:Elecraft@mailman.qth.net This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html
Re: [Elecraft] K3 Wish List - XIT tell-tale
Hi Tom, There are LCD icons for both RIT and XIT. XIT is rarely used, and you'd think that those who do use it would be motivated to keep an eye on both the XIT icon and the Delta-F LED. That said, I'll add to my list consideration of flashing the XIT icon and/or the Delta-F LED. I have to be careful with such changes because of unintended side effects and the annoyance factor. It would certainly need a menu entry for disabling this behavior. 73, Wayne N6KR On Jan 1, 2012, at 11:07 AM, Tom Boucher wrote: > I guess Elecraft are now beyond wanting to make relatively minor > changes to the K3 as it is now a mature product, but how about this? > On two occasions recently I have been in QSO with a weak distant > station on 160 or 80 and a very loud EU has come up on the same > frequency with a QRL? On my reply of 'R Pse QSY' the other station > ignores me and begins a long and loud CQ thus wiping out the one I'm > trying to work. Both times I established that the interfering > station was using a K3 and had inadvertently left the 'XIT' function > on, thus transmitting on a different frequency to that he was > listening on. > > The yellow 'delta f' tell-tale LED is there to tell you that either > the RIT or XIT function is on, but if you are already using the RIT > function, there is nothing to tell you that XIT is also on. Would it > be a simple firmware mod to make the lamp flash on and off when XIT > is active? > > 73 > Tom G3OLB > __ __ Elecraft mailing list Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm Post: mailto:Elecraft@mailman.qth.net This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html
Re: [Elecraft] K3 Wish List
Carl Clawson wrote: ...And by the way, should anal retentive be spelled with a hyphen? Probably only as an adjective... ;-) Pete -- Peter N. Spotts -- KC1JB http://www.kc1jb.net (under construction) Email: [EMAIL PROTECTED] QRP-ARCI # 12609 | Flying Pigs QRP Club Int'l # 1983 North American QRP CW Club # 2446 W5JH Black Widow paddle #601 ___ Elecraft mailing list Post to: Elecraft@mailman.qth.net You must be a subscriber to post to the list. Subscriber Info (Addr. Change, sub, unsub etc.): http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/subscribers.htm Elecraft web page: http://www.elecraft.com
RE: [Elecraft] K3 Wish List
I'm with Roy. If I have a system in state A and I fiddle with it and get it into state B, I want to be able to get back to A. Even if the difference is trivial and doesn't matter in the slightest. Is there a good "reason" for this? No. It's likely a mild form of obsessive compulsive disorder. I should probably be seen by a psychiatrist. Or it could be that I've dealt with so much software over the years, with all kinds of bizarre interactions between seemingly unrelated things, that I no longer believe that there is such a thing as an unimportant difference. And by the way, should anal retentive be spelled with a hyphen? 73/WS7L > -Original Message- > From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of David Pratt > Sent: Tuesday, July 08, 2008 11:35 PM > To: Elecraft Reflector > Subject: Re: [Elecraft] K3 Wish List > > In a recent message, Roy Morris <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote ... > >I would like to be able to erase entries from PF1 and PF2 instead of > >having to overwrite these memories. Please consider putting this on > >the list. > > Why, Roy? Surely if you do not want to use the PF1 and PF2 > buttons you could just fill them with the firmware versions. > Leaving them blank does not serve any useful purpose and I do > feel there are other things on the list that could be given > higher priority. > > Please tell us the reason you need PF1 and PF2 to be blank. > ___ Elecraft mailing list Post to: Elecraft@mailman.qth.net You must be a subscriber to post to the list. Subscriber Info (Addr. Change, sub, unsub etc.): http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/subscribers.htm Elecraft web page: http://www.elecraft.com
Re: [Elecraft] K3 Wish List
I have a few minor things for the wish list too. - a separate on/off possibility to save more parameters for each band and antenna such as: - ATU / bypass - power level - PA out (not available) I also would like to have the DATA MD menu setting behave like the TEXT DEC setting for CW. Turning to the left should always have the same value, DATA A or so, and turning to the right should maybe result in 31 BPS PSK. The TEXT DEC setting for data modes could also be left OFF and right ON. 73 's Steef PA2A K2 #4654 K3 #1184 - Original Message - From: "Roy Morris" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: Sent: Wednesday, July 09, 2008 3:12 AM Subject: [Elecraft] K3 Wish List Wayne, I would like to be able to erase entries from PF1 and PF2 instead of having to overwrite these memories. Please consider putting this on the list. Thanks Roy Morris W4WFB ___ Elecraft mailing list Post to: Elecraft@mailman.qth.net You must be a subscriber to post to the list. Subscriber Info (Addr. Change, sub, unsub etc.): http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/subscribers.htm Elecraft web page: http://www.elecraft.com ___ Elecraft mailing list Post to: Elecraft@mailman.qth.net You must be a subscriber to post to the list. Subscriber Info (Addr. Change, sub, unsub etc.): http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/subscribers.htm Elecraft web page: http://www.elecraft.com
Re: [Elecraft] K3 Wish List
I agree... But when I asked for the ability to erase memories Wayne told me he didn't understand why I would want that ability when I could just over write the memory location with something else. But when he made it so a lot of people started taking a lot more liberties with memories and really liked that new feature. Personally I'm more for being able to NULL out CW memories but I suppose I can always just set them to only send "E". Granted there are much higher priority things and so far I've been very pleased with Wayne's prioritizing so I'm content to just leave things in his hands. Although I do hope that now that the Sub RX is on its way to becoming an item that the DVR isn't too far off. :) ~Brett (KC7OTG) On Wed, 2008-07-09 at 07:34 +0100, David Pratt wrote: > In a recent message, Roy Morris <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote ... > >I would like to be able to erase entries from PF1 and PF2 instead of > >having to overwrite these memories. Please consider putting this on > >the list. > > Why, Roy? Surely if you do not want to use the PF1 and PF2 buttons you > could just fill them with the firmware versions. Leaving them blank > does not serve any useful purpose and I do feel there are other things > on the list that could be given higher priority. > > Please tell us the reason you need PF1 and PF2 to be blank. > > 73 ___ Elecraft mailing list Post to: Elecraft@mailman.qth.net You must be a subscriber to post to the list. Subscriber Info (Addr. Change, sub, unsub etc.): http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/subscribers.htm Elecraft web page: http://www.elecraft.com
Re: [Elecraft] K3 Wish List
In a recent message, Roy Morris <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote ... I would like to be able to erase entries from PF1 and PF2 instead of having to overwrite these memories. Please consider putting this on the list. Why, Roy? Surely if you do not want to use the PF1 and PF2 buttons you could just fill them with the firmware versions. Leaving them blank does not serve any useful purpose and I do feel there are other things on the list that could be given higher priority. Please tell us the reason you need PF1 and PF2 to be blank. 73 -- David G4DMP Leeds, England, UK -- ___ Elecraft mailing list Post to: Elecraft@mailman.qth.net You must be a subscriber to post to the list. Subscriber Info (Addr. Change, sub, unsub etc.): http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/subscribers.htm Elecraft web page: http://www.elecraft.com
Re: [Elecraft] K3 wish list - option to turn off display
On 080430 5:05 , "[EMAIL PROTECTED]" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Bob, > > I don't think your concerns are warranted. The LCD is an array of transistor > switches which affect the transmission of light by polarizing effects of > their electrostatic field. The actual light is provided by backlighting from > light emitting diodes which are well known for their longevity. > > The Day mode will shut off the LED backlights on the LCD, but unfortunately > it also ups the level of brightness for the LEDs on the controls. That would > seem to be a simple fix in the firmware. > > Al WA6VNN I have recently got a comment from Wayne about this as it is on my wish list of things for future enhancements of the K3, he didn't seem to exited about it. (my other 3 requests are all in the next or future firmware, I guess they where more popular requests). I agree that this is not a question about lifetime of the backlight, to me it is more important to be able to use the radio in stealth mode when operating remote. I also find it useful when leaving the radio on overnight to use the band opening as an alarm clock. Wayne was very happy to receive my wish list in private mail, I think it is a good idea to use private email for any request you are serious about as it otherwise might drown in the reflector noise. 73 de Björn /SM0MDG ___ Elecraft mailing list Post to: Elecraft@mailman.qth.net You must be a subscriber to post to the list. Subscriber Info (Addr. Change, sub, unsub etc.): http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/subscribers.htm Elecraft web page: http://www.elecraft.com
Re: [Elecraft] K3 wish list - option to turn off display
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I don't think your concerns are warranted. The LCD is an array of transistor switches which affect the transmission of light by polarizing effects of The sort of LCD display used on the K2, and I believe the K3, doesn't have any active components (such as transistors) on the display. their electrostatic field. The actual light is provided by backlighting from light emitting diodes which are well known for their longevity. When I first saw this thread, I assumed it was about wearing out the liquid crystals, not about the back light. Actually driving the liquid crystals will eventually wear them out, as it is not possible to completely avoid DC components in the drive (LCDs are driven by AC (acutally complex waveforms that average to zero DC for both selected and non-selected elements) to avoid elecrolysing the liquid crystals. I'd therefore say, don't worry about the backlight, except on power consumption grounds; it is the display itself you may want to power down. The Day mode will shut off the LED backlights on the LCD, but unfortunately it also ups the level of brightness for the LEDs on the controls. That would seem to be a simple fix in the firmware. Al WA6VNN In a message dated 4/27/2008 7:06:34 A.M. Pacific Daylight Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: I increasingly like to operate remote, especially when traveling. This can sometimes mean that the rig is turned on for several days. I have some concern about burn-out of the LCD display in areas where it remains unchanged for long periods. Maybe this is an unjustified worry, but it would be good to have the option to simply turn off the display when using remote operation, or even when operating the rig from a PC in the shack. Bob, G3YIQ ___ **Need a new ride? Check out the largest site for U.S. used car listings at AOL Autos. (http://autos.aol.com/used?NCID=aolcmp0030002851) -- David Woolley Emails are not formal business letters, whatever businesses may want. RFC1855 says there should be an address here, but, in a world of spam, that is no longer good advice, as archive address hiding may not work. ___ Elecraft mailing list Post to: Elecraft@mailman.qth.net You must be a subscriber to post to the list. Subscriber Info (Addr. Change, sub, unsub etc.): http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/subscribers.htm Elecraft web page: http://www.elecraft.com
Re: [Elecraft] K3 wish list - option to turn off display
Bob, I don't think your concerns are warranted. The LCD is an array of transistor switches which affect the transmission of light by polarizing effects of their electrostatic field. The actual light is provided by backlighting from light emitting diodes which are well known for their longevity. The Day mode will shut off the LED backlights on the LCD, but unfortunately it also ups the level of brightness for the LEDs on the controls. That would seem to be a simple fix in the firmware. Al WA6VNN In a message dated 4/27/2008 7:06:34 A.M. Pacific Daylight Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: I increasingly like to operate remote, especially when traveling. This can sometimes mean that the rig is turned on for several days. I have some concern about burn-out of the LCD display in areas where it remains unchanged for long periods. Maybe this is an unjustified worry, but it would be good to have the option to simply turn off the display when using remote operation, or even when operating the rig from a PC in the shack. Bob, G3YIQ ___ **Need a new ride? Check out the largest site for U.S. used car listings at AOL Autos. (http://autos.aol.com/used?NCID=aolcmp0030002851) ___ Elecraft mailing list Post to: Elecraft@mailman.qth.net You must be a subscriber to post to the list. Subscriber Info (Addr. Change, sub, unsub etc.): http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/subscribers.htm Elecraft web page: http://www.elecraft.com
Re: [Elecraft] K3 wish list - option to turn of display
Phil, The problem with the currently available daylight option is that it makes the LEDs light up on full strength. I have this option on my wish list, I believe it is very useful to be able to turn the display off when monitoring for openings overnight. 73 de Björn /SM0MDG On 080428 13:44 , "Phil Theis" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Power was a consideration, but I just discovered the 'DAY' selection was > what I was after, no light in a dark room. > I believe we already have what I was looking for. > Phil > - Original Message - > From: "George Victor" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > To: "Phil Theis" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > Cc: > Sent: Monday, April 28, 2008 9:20 AM > Subject: Re: [Elecraft] K3 wish list - option to turn of display > > >> To save power? >> >> On Sun, Apr 27, 2008 at 7:38 PM, Phil Theis <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: >>> This would be a great addition to the product. >>> Phil K3(352)TUF >>> ___ >>> Elecraft mailing list >>> Post to: Elecraft@mailman.qth.net >>> You must be a subscriber to post to the list. >>> Subscriber Info (Addr. Change, sub, unsub etc.): >>> http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft >>> >>> Help: http://mailman.qth.net/subscribers.htm >>> Elecraft web page: http://www.elecraft.com >>> > > ___ > Elecraft mailing list > Post to: Elecraft@mailman.qth.net > You must be a subscriber to post to the list. > Subscriber Info (Addr. Change, sub, unsub etc.): > http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft > > Help: http://mailman.qth.net/subscribers.htm > Elecraft web page: http://www.elecraft.com > ___ Elecraft mailing list Post to: Elecraft@mailman.qth.net You must be a subscriber to post to the list. Subscriber Info (Addr. Change, sub, unsub etc.): http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/subscribers.htm Elecraft web page: http://www.elecraft.com
Re: [Elecraft] K3 wish list - option to turn of display
Power was a consideration, but I just discovered the 'DAY' selection was what I was after, no light in a dark room. I believe we already have what I was looking for. Phil - Original Message - From: "George Victor" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: "Phil Theis" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Cc: Sent: Monday, April 28, 2008 9:20 AM Subject: Re: [Elecraft] K3 wish list - option to turn of display To save power? On Sun, Apr 27, 2008 at 7:38 PM, Phil Theis <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: This would be a great addition to the product. Phil K3(352)TUF ___ Elecraft mailing list Post to: Elecraft@mailman.qth.net You must be a subscriber to post to the list. Subscriber Info (Addr. Change, sub, unsub etc.): http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/subscribers.htm Elecraft web page: http://www.elecraft.com ___ Elecraft mailing list Post to: Elecraft@mailman.qth.net You must be a subscriber to post to the list. Subscriber Info (Addr. Change, sub, unsub etc.): http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/subscribers.htm Elecraft web page: http://www.elecraft.com
Re: [Elecraft] K3 wish list - option to turn of display
To save power? On Sun, Apr 27, 2008 at 7:38 PM, Phil Theis <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > This would be a great addition to the product. > Phil K3(352)TUF > ___ > Elecraft mailing list > Post to: Elecraft@mailman.qth.net > You must be a subscriber to post to the list. > Subscriber Info (Addr. Change, sub, unsub etc.): > http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft > > Help: http://mailman.qth.net/subscribers.htm > Elecraft web page: http://www.elecraft.com > ___ Elecraft mailing list Post to: Elecraft@mailman.qth.net You must be a subscriber to post to the list. Subscriber Info (Addr. Change, sub, unsub etc.): http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/subscribers.htm Elecraft web page: http://www.elecraft.com
Re: [Elecraft] K3 wish list - option to turn off display
Bob, Steve Jackson KZ1X would be the best to respond to your concern. I understand that Steve has never turned his K2 off except for periods of upgrading and alignements. His K2 is at least 6 years old and I believe is still going strong. 73, Don W3FPR Bob Jones wrote: I increasingly like to operate remote, especially when traveling. This can sometimes mean that the rig is turned on for several days. I have some concern about burn-out of the LCD display in areas where it remains unchanged for long periods. Maybe this is an unjustified worry, but it would be good to have the option to simply turn off the display when using remote operation, or even when operating the rig from a PC in the shack. Bob, G3YIQ ___ Elecraft mailing list Post to: Elecraft@mailman.qth.net You must be a subscriber to post to the list. Subscriber Info (Addr. Change, sub, unsub etc.): http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/subscribers.htm Elecraft web page: http://www.elecraft.com
Re: [Elecraft] K3 wish list - option to turn off display
In a recent message, Bob Jones <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote ... I have some concern about burn-out of the LCD display in areas where it remains unchanged for long periods. [snip] but it would be good to have the option to simply turn off the display when using remote operation, or even when operating the rig from a PC in the shack. That would be a good idea, Bob. LCD ADJ does down to 2 but perhaps zero could be used to switch the contrast off altogether. LCD BRT can show DAY which turns the backlight off. 73 -- David G4DMP Leeds, England, UK -- ___ Elecraft mailing list Post to: Elecraft@mailman.qth.net You must be a subscriber to post to the list. Subscriber Info (Addr. Change, sub, unsub etc.): http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/subscribers.htm Elecraft web page: http://www.elecraft.com
RE: [Elecraft] K3 Wish List
Perhaps another "band" could be added as a "general coverage" area and an out of amateur band frequency could be stored there rather than mess up one of the amateur bands VFOs. 73, ... Joe, W4TV > -Original Message- > From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Cranz Nichols > Sent: Monday, March 10, 2008 10:22 AM > To: elecraft@mailman.qth.net > Subject: [Elecraft] K3 Wish List > > > Please add my vote for this. > > Tnx > WB5BKL > K3 #231 > > > - Original Message - > > Message: 32 > > Date: Sun, 9 Mar 2008 23:23:36 -0400 > > From: "Roy Morris" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > > Subject: [Elecraft] K3 Wish List > > To: > > > > It would also be nice if non-ham band frequencies could be > blocked from > entering the ham band registers. Thanks. Roy Morris W4WFB K3 #323 > > > ___ > Elecraft mailing list > Post to: Elecraft@mailman.qth.net > You must be a subscriber to post to the list. > Subscriber Info (Addr. Change, sub, unsub etc.): > http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft > > Help: http://mailman.qth.net/subscribers.htm > Elecraft web page: http://www.elecraft.com ___ Elecraft mailing list Post to: Elecraft@mailman.qth.net You must be a subscriber to post to the list. Subscriber Info (Addr. Change, sub, unsub etc.): http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/subscribers.htm Elecraft web page: http://www.elecraft.com
Re: [Elecraft] K3 wish list
And then there's the frogs! The ant tuner will shut them all up for a few minutes! Of course, there is always the possibility of using a feedline that is matched to the antenna and good grounds etc. I've been runnning a vertical made by Mosely back in the late 1950's, with 80 feet of RG-8. Unfortunately it is only a 4 band 40 - 10 no WARC, BUT it'll tune all 4 bands to under 1.5:1 and no need for tuners. The dipole is another story. Al WA6VNN ** See what's new at http://www.aol.com ___ Elecraft mailing list Post to: Elecraft@mailman.qth.net You must be a subscriber to post to the list. Subscriber Info (Addr. Change, sub, unsub etc.): http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/subscribers.htm Elecraft web page: http://www.elecraft.com
Re: Re: [Elecraft] K3 wish list
My only problem with motorised units is the screwdriver type antennas. They make a heck of a racket and this is the only reason I don't have that type on my property. I had one on my car for a short while and it's quite disconcerting hearing it winding up and down. David G3UNA > > From: "Geoffrey Mackenzie-Kennedy" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > Date: 2007/11/14 Wed PM 12:51:09 GMT > To: "Elecraft Discussion List" > Subject: Re: [Elecraft] K3 wish list > > On Wednesday, November 14, 2007 8:53 AM, Julian G4ILO wrote: > > > If a product was available that offered these features with the same > > operating convenience you get with an internal ATU then I'd join those > > who have already said they'd buy it. > > Something that should not be overlooked is acoustic noise generated by an > antenna matching unit (ATU) if it is to be used outside, relays clattering > away at 2am could upset the neighbours! Far better is the 'purr' of a motor > driven capacitor used in an 'old fashioned' link coupled matching unit, > nevertheless I have mine in a soundproofed box. > > My wish is that the designers of commercial tuners would allow tuning to be > achieved with milliwatts of RF rather than watts, which is feasible. IMHO > tuning with RF levels above a few milliwatts erp is anti-social in terms of > QRM. > > 73, > Geoff > GM4ESD > > ___ > Elecraft mailing list > Post to: Elecraft@mailman.qth.net > You must be a subscriber to post to the list. > Subscriber Info (Addr. Change, sub, unsub etc.): > http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft > > Help: http://mailman.qth.net/subscribers.htm > Elecraft web page: http://www.elecraft.com > - Email sent from www.virginmedia.com/email Virus-checked using McAfee(R) Software and scanned for spam ___ Elecraft mailing list Post to: Elecraft@mailman.qth.net You must be a subscriber to post to the list. Subscriber Info (Addr. Change, sub, unsub etc.): http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/subscribers.htm Elecraft web page: http://www.elecraft.com
Re: [Elecraft] K3 wish list
Thick walls built in 1814, neighbours (3) about 50 metres away, sensitive ears - don't know, location very quiet RF and acoustic, BUT very noisy pheasant who get up at some unholy hour who don't bother the neighbours it seems. Relays would introduce an alien sound :-) 73, Geoff GM4ESD Julian G4ILO <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: Your neighbours must have thin walls, or very sensitive ears, and you must live in a very quiet location. :) ___ Elecraft mailing list Post to: Elecraft@mailman.qth.net You must be a subscriber to post to the list. Subscriber Info (Addr. Change, sub, unsub etc.): http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/subscribers.htm Elecraft web page: http://www.elecraft.com
Re: [Elecraft] K3 wish list
I agree, but as an example if I am on 40m at some ridiculous hour I would be working CW at the low end and SSB between 7140 and 7197 kHz, which I believe could result in a fair number of "clicks" during the night when using an all driven array with the type of ATU you have in mind. I guess that what I am saying is 'don't forget the sleeping neighbours' :-) 73, Geoff GM4ESD Nick Waterman <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: Geoffrey Mackenzie-Kennedy wrote: Something that should not be overlooked is acoustic noise generated by an antenna matching unit (ATU) if it is to be used outside, relays clattering away at 2am could upset the neighbours! ... but to be fair, that's only when you press "TUNE" for the first time on a new antenna, right? After that, most modern ATUs will remember the settings for different bands, or different parts of bands, and when you QSY significantly it's usually just one "click" to get back to the remembered settings? ___ Elecraft mailing list Post to: Elecraft@mailman.qth.net You must be a subscriber to post to the list. Subscriber Info (Addr. Change, sub, unsub etc.): http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/subscribers.htm Elecraft web page: http://www.elecraft.com
Re: [Elecraft] K3 wish list
On Nov 14, 2007 12:51 PM, Geoffrey Mackenzie-Kennedy <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Something that should not be overlooked is acoustic noise generated by an > antenna matching unit (ATU) if it is to be used outside, relays clattering > away at 2am could upset the neighbours! Your neighbours must have thin walls, or very sensitive ears, and you must live in a very quiet location. :) -- Julian, G4ILO K2 s/n: 392 K3 s/n: ??? G4ILO's Shack: www.g4ilo.com Zerobeat Ham Forums: www.zerobeat.net/smf ___ Elecraft mailing list Post to: Elecraft@mailman.qth.net You must be a subscriber to post to the list. Subscriber Info (Addr. Change, sub, unsub etc.): http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/subscribers.htm Elecraft web page: http://www.elecraft.com
Re: [Elecraft] K3 wish list
Geoffrey Mackenzie-Kennedy wrote: > Something that should not be overlooked is acoustic noise generated by > an antenna matching unit (ATU) if it is to be used outside, relays > clattering away at 2am could upset the neighbours! ... but to be fair, that's only when you press "TUNE" for the first time on a new antenna, right? After that, most modern ATUs will remember the settings for different bands, or different parts of bands, and when you QSY significantly it's usually just one "click" to get back to the remembered settings? -- "Nosey" Nick Waterman, VE3/G7RZQ, K2 #5209. use Std::Disclaimer;[EMAIL PROTECTED] Half Moon tonight. (At least its better than no Moon at all.) ___ Elecraft mailing list Post to: Elecraft@mailman.qth.net You must be a subscriber to post to the list. Subscriber Info (Addr. Change, sub, unsub etc.): http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/subscribers.htm Elecraft web page: http://www.elecraft.com
Re: [Elecraft] K3 wish list
On Wednesday, November 14, 2007 8:53 AM, Julian G4ILO wrote: If a product was available that offered these features with the same operating convenience you get with an internal ATU then I'd join those who have already said they'd buy it. Something that should not be overlooked is acoustic noise generated by an antenna matching unit (ATU) if it is to be used outside, relays clattering away at 2am could upset the neighbours! Far better is the 'purr' of a motor driven capacitor used in an 'old fashioned' link coupled matching unit, nevertheless I have mine in a soundproofed box. My wish is that the designers of commercial tuners would allow tuning to be achieved with milliwatts of RF rather than watts, which is feasible. IMHO tuning with RF levels above a few milliwatts erp is anti-social in terms of QRM. 73, Geoff GM4ESD ___ Elecraft mailing list Post to: Elecraft@mailman.qth.net You must be a subscriber to post to the list. Subscriber Info (Addr. Change, sub, unsub etc.): http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/subscribers.htm Elecraft web page: http://www.elecraft.com
Re: [Elecraft] K3 wish list
On Nov 13, 2007 8:43 PM, Craig Rairdin <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > Pardon my ignorance but I don't understand how your station layout would be > improved with an external ATU. The KAT3 occupies the same space inside the > K3 as the KANT3. An external tuner would result in more, not less, space > being taken outside the radio (albeit remotely mounted), plus you'd have > another cable to route. > > There may be something about having a 6m beam that works better with a > remote ATU and that's fine -- I just don't understand how this is all driven > by limited desk space. The same amount of desk space is taken up with the > ATU inside the K3 as outside. I think you're missing the point. Many people with limited situations have to make do with antennas that are not resonant on some bands. In that situation it is much better to have the tuner close to the antenna feed point. Many people in limited situations may also have restrictions such as only able to get one or two thin cables into the shack. The remote switching suggested by Alan would allow two antennas to share the same feeder coming in to the shack. If a product was available that offered these features with the same operating convenience you get with an internal ATU then I'd join those who have already said they'd buy it. -- Julian, G4ILO K2 s/n: 392 K3 s/n: ??? G4ILO's Shack: www.g4ilo.com Zerobeat Ham Forums: www.zerobeat.net/smf ___ Elecraft mailing list Post to: Elecraft@mailman.qth.net You must be a subscriber to post to the list. Subscriber Info (Addr. Change, sub, unsub etc.): http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/subscribers.htm Elecraft web page: http://www.elecraft.com
RE: [Elecraft] K3 wish list
Another "for sure" sale here!!! ... Craig AC0DS <> If Elecraft would introduce a remote tuner based on the KAT100 or the KAT3 <> priced competitively, I think it would sell well. ___ Elecraft mailing list Post to: Elecraft@mailman.qth.net You must be a subscriber to post to the list. Subscriber Info (Addr. Change, sub, unsub etc.): http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/subscribers.htm Elecraft web page: http://www.elecraft.com
RE: [Elecraft] K3 wish list
> My small station layout means that a remote ATU is much > more effective than an inboard one. Therefor the tuning part of the > KAT3 as an external unit (with say a 25 to 35 ft power and control > cable) AND the antenna switching functions transferred to the KANT3 > in the main rig would be very attractive, especially to accommodate > a beam for 6m. Pardon my ignorance but I don't understand how your station layout would be improved with an external ATU. The KAT3 occupies the same space inside the K3 as the KANT3. An external tuner would result in more, not less, space being taken outside the radio (albeit remotely mounted), plus you'd have another cable to route. There may be something about having a 6m beam that works better with a remote ATU and that's fine -- I just don't understand how this is all driven by limited desk space. The same amount of desk space is taken up with the ATU inside the K3 as outside. Craig NZ0R K3/100 #25 ___ Elecraft mailing list Post to: Elecraft@mailman.qth.net You must be a subscriber to post to the list. Subscriber Info (Addr. Change, sub, unsub etc.): http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/subscribers.htm Elecraft web page: http://www.elecraft.com
Re: [Elecraft] K3 wish list
I (and others) have been hoping for something like this since the K2 came out. Elecraft introduced the T1, which is fine for QRP use, but sometimes you've gotta crank the power up a bit. If Elecraft would introduce a remote tuner based on the KAT100 or the KAT3 priced competitively, I think it would sell well. 73, Mike KW1ND [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: > As a newcomer to major Elecraft items I hope it is not presumptuous of me to > add to the wish list. My small station layout means that a remote ATU is much > more effective than an inboard one. Therefor the tuning part of the KAT3 as > an external unit (with say a 25 to 35 ft power and control cable) AND the > antenna switching functions transferred to the KANT3 in the main rig would be > > very attractive, especially to accommodate a beam for 6m. When I get my K3 > I > will be stuck with a third party auto ATU and manual switching for 6M. > > I didn't order till batch three in mid July, so lets hope the $ stays at 2+ > per £ until the New Year. I have been amazed at the close contact available > via this reflector. Keep up the good work Eric. ___ Elecraft mailing list Post to: Elecraft@mailman.qth.net You must be a subscriber to post to the list. Subscriber Info (Addr. Change, sub, unsub etc.): http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/subscribers.htm Elecraft web page: http://www.elecraft.com
