Re: [Elecraft] re: K3 [Elecraft Proset Question
My Proset K2 works fine in the front connector of my K2 using the supplied adapter cable. This was purchased along with the K3. The Mic is a 'mono' style 3.5mm (pretty sure it's not 1/8, but the ever so slightly larger 3.5mm) connector, so the bias must be supplied to the tip at a guess. I normally use it in the rear mic socket and so I just set MENU MIC SEL = RP.L BIAS (rear panel, low mic gain with bias). 73 de M0XDF, K3 #174 -- God gives every bird his worm, but he does not throw it into the nest. -Swedish proverb On 1 May 2008, at 06:39, David Yarnes wrote: Fred and All, I believe the adapter supplied with the Elecraft Pro Set is a true Kenwood adapter. On the K2 you wired the radio for whatever microphone you wanted. If you wanted to use a Kenwood microphone setup you wired the K2 accordingly. That would put bias on pin 5. The Elecraft Pro Set, which is an electret with the IC cartridge, was deemed to be fully Kenwood compatible, and so they just supplied a Kenwood adapter with the Pro Set, and that worked fine on a K2 wired for Kenwood. Along comes the K3, with bias preset on pin 6, and they are still sending out the Kenwood adapter. I think that's why it doesn't work for you. I have the Elecraft Pro Set also, and I just use the jacks on the back of the K3--no adapter used. ___ Elecraft mailing list Post to: Elecraft@mailman.qth.net You must be a subscriber to post to the list. Subscriber Info (Addr. Change, sub, unsub etc.): http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/subscribers.htm Elecraft web page: http://www.elecraft.com
Re: [Elecraft] re: K3 [Elecraft Proset Question
Dave, The Elecraft ProSet K2 does use an adapter that is Kenwood compatible, and will work just fine with the K3 or with a properly wired mic configuration header on the K2. The bias is applied to the AF output line and neither pin 5 nor pin 6 are used in the adapter. 73, Don W3FPR David Yarnes wrote: Fred and All, I believe the adapter supplied with the Elecraft Pro Set is a true Kenwood adapter. On the K2 you wired the radio for whatever microphone you wanted. If you wanted to use a Kenwood microphone setup you wired the K2 accordingly. That would put bias on pin 5. The Elecraft Pro Set, which is an electret with the IC cartridge, was deemed to be fully Kenwood compatible, and so they just supplied a Kenwood adapter with the Pro Set, and that worked fine on a K2 wired for Kenwood. Along comes the K3, with bias preset on pin 6, and they are still sending out the Kenwood adapter. I think that's why it doesn't work for you. I have the Elecraft Pro Set also, and I just use the jacks on the back of the K3--no adapter used. ___ Elecraft mailing list Post to: Elecraft@mailman.qth.net You must be a subscriber to post to the list. Subscriber Info (Addr. Change, sub, unsub etc.): http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/subscribers.htm Elecraft web page: http://www.elecraft.com
Re: [Elecraft] re: K3 [Elecraft Proset Question
David and All, I would guess that that would work. The question is what is really on pin 5 internally right now. The pinout diagram in the manual says pin 5 is a Function pin, and it is marked with an asterisk. The footnote says if applicable. So, I'm guessing there is really nothing going to pin 5 internally right now. But you aren't getting bias there either. That's on pin 6. That's presumably why you have to tell the K3 via menu to turn on the bias, and it puts bias on the microphone pin. If the supplied adapter used pin 6 instead of pin 5 I assume you would not have to go to the menu to get bias. So, I'm guessing now that the real problem would come when they start using pin 5 for some function not yet implemented. Maybe I'm all wet, but that's what I interpret from the diagram in the manual. Dave W7AQK Original Message - From: David Ferrington, M0XDF [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: David Yarnes [EMAIL PROTECTED] Cc: [EMAIL PROTECTED]; Elecraft Reflector elecraft@mailman.qth.net Sent: Thursday, May 01, 2008 1:48 AM Subject: Re: [Elecraft] re: K3 [Elecraft Proset Question My Proset K2 works fine in the front connector of my K2 using the supplied adapter cable. This was purchased along with the K3. The Mic is a 'mono' style 3.5mm (pretty sure it's not 1/8, but the ever so slightly larger 3.5mm) connector, so the bias must be supplied to the tip at a guess. I normally use it in the rear mic socket and so I just set MENU MIC SEL = RP.L BIAS (rear panel, low mic gain with bias). 73 de M0XDF, K3 #174 -- God gives every bird his worm, but he does not throw it into the nest. -Swedish proverb On 1 May 2008, at 06:39, David Yarnes wrote: Fred and All, I believe the adapter supplied with the Elecraft Pro Set is a true Kenwood adapter. On the K2 you wired the radio for whatever microphone you wanted. If you wanted to use a Kenwood microphone setup you wired the K2 accordingly. That would put bias on pin 5. The Elecraft Pro Set, which is an electret with the IC cartridge, was deemed to be fully Kenwood compatible, and so they just supplied a Kenwood adapter with the Pro Set, and that worked fine on a K2 wired for Kenwood. Along comes the K3, with bias preset on pin 6, and they are still sending out the Kenwood adapter. I think that's why it doesn't work for you. I have the Elecraft Pro Set also, and I just use the jacks on the back of the K3--no adapter used. ___ Elecraft mailing list Post to: Elecraft@mailman.qth.net You must be a subscriber to post to the list. Subscriber Info (Addr. Change, sub, unsub etc.): http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/subscribers.htm Elecraft web page: http://www.elecraft.com
RE: [Elecraft] re: K3 [Elecraft Proset Question
The question is what is really on pin 5 internally right now. The pinout diagram in the manual says pin 5 is a Function pin, and it is marked with an asterisk. The footnote says if applicable. So, I'm guessing there is really nothing going to pin 5 internally right now. Why guess? Simply look at the schematics posted in the Elecraft web site. Pins 3 (Down), 4 (Up), and 5 (Function) are connected to a resistor network (voltage divider) that provides a specific (different) voltage for each of the buttons to a sense input on the controller. None of the functions have been implemented in the firmware but the hardware is in place. 73, ... Joe, W4TV -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of David Yarnes Sent: Thursday, May 01, 2008 10:44 AM To: David Ferrington, M0XDF Cc: Elecraft Reflector; [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: [Elecraft] re: K3 [Elecraft Proset Question David and All, I would guess that that would work. The question is what is really on pin 5 internally right now. The pinout diagram in the manual says pin 5 is a Function pin, and it is marked with an asterisk. The footnote says if applicable. So, I'm guessing there is really nothing going to pin 5 internally right now. But you aren't getting bias there either. That's on pin 6. That's presumably why you have to tell the K3 via menu to turn on the bias, and it puts bias on the microphone pin. If the supplied adapter used pin 6 instead of pin 5 I assume you would not have to go to the menu to get bias. So, I'm guessing now that the real problem would come when they start using pin 5 for some function not yet implemented. Maybe I'm all wet, but that's what I interpret from the diagram in the manual. Dave W7AQK Original Message - From: David Ferrington, M0XDF [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: David Yarnes [EMAIL PROTECTED] Cc: [EMAIL PROTECTED]; Elecraft Reflector elecraft@mailman.qth.net Sent: Thursday, May 01, 2008 1:48 AM Subject: Re: [Elecraft] re: K3 [Elecraft Proset Question My Proset K2 works fine in the front connector of my K2 using the supplied adapter cable. This was purchased along with the K3. The Mic is a 'mono' style 3.5mm (pretty sure it's not 1/8, but the ever so slightly larger 3.5mm) connector, so the bias must be supplied to the tip at a guess. I normally use it in the rear mic socket and so I just set MENU MIC SEL = RP.L BIAS (rear panel, low mic gain with bias). 73 de M0XDF, K3 #174 -- God gives every bird his worm, but he does not throw it into the nest. -Swedish proverb On 1 May 2008, at 06:39, David Yarnes wrote: Fred and All, I believe the adapter supplied with the Elecraft Pro Set is a true Kenwood adapter. On the K2 you wired the radio for whatever microphone you wanted. If you wanted to use a Kenwood microphone setup you wired the K2 accordingly. That would put bias on pin 5. The Elecraft Pro Set, which is an electret with the IC cartridge, was deemed to be fully Kenwood compatible, and so they just supplied a Kenwood adapter with the Pro Set, and that worked fine on a K2 wired for Kenwood. Along comes the K3, with bias preset on pin 6, and they are still sending out the Kenwood adapter. I think that's why it doesn't work for you. I have the Elecraft Pro Set also, and I just use the jacks on the back of the K3--no adapter used. ___ Elecraft mailing list Post to: Elecraft@mailman.qth.net You must be a subscriber to post to the list. Subscriber Info (Addr. Change, sub, unsub etc.): http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/subscribers.htm Elecraft web page: http://www.elecraft.com ___ Elecraft mailing list Post to: Elecraft@mailman.qth.net You must be a subscriber to post to the list. Subscriber Info (Addr. Change, sub, unsub etc.): http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/subscribers.htm Elecraft web page: http://www.elecraft.com
Re: [Elecraft] re: K3 [Elecraft Proset Question
Fred and All, I believe the adapter supplied with the Elecraft Pro Set is a true Kenwood adapter. On the K2 you wired the radio for whatever microphone you wanted. If you wanted to use a Kenwood microphone setup you wired the K2 accordingly. That would put bias on pin 5. The Elecraft Pro Set, which is an electret with the IC cartridge, was deemed to be fully Kenwood compatible, and so they just supplied a Kenwood adapter with the Pro Set, and that worked fine on a K2 wired for Kenwood. Along comes the K3, with bias preset on pin 6, and they are still sending out the Kenwood adapter. I think that's why it doesn't work for you. I have the Elecraft Pro Set also, and I just use the jacks on the back of the K3--no adapter used. Dave W7AQK - Original Message - From: Fred Jensen [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: Elecraft Reflector elecraft@mailman.qth.net Sent: Wednesday, April 30, 2008 7:32 PM Subject: [Elecraft] re: K3 [Elecraft Proset Question Ike Topliss wrote: John, The adaptor that I received with my Heil Proset K2 does not work at all with my K3 on the front panel connector. However, the mic when plugged into the rear panel works perfectly. Just adding this to the info you've already received. My experience too using the adapter that came with the K2Proset. Works fine with the rear connector. I'll wait for some answers here. 73, Fred K6DGW - Northern California Contest Club - CU in the 2008 Cal QSO Party 4-5 Oct 08 - www.cqp.org ___ Elecraft mailing list Post to: Elecraft@mailman.qth.net You must be a subscriber to post to the list. Subscriber Info (Addr. Change, sub, unsub etc.): http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/subscribers.htm Elecraft web page: http://www.elecraft.com ___ Elecraft mailing list Post to: Elecraft@mailman.qth.net You must be a subscriber to post to the list. Subscriber Info (Addr. Change, sub, unsub etc.): http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/subscribers.htm Elecraft web page: http://www.elecraft.com
