Re: [Elecraft] K3 & KRC2
Is there an easy way for the KRC2 and K3 to give an output for 6m? My problem - quite common I expect, is to switch antennas between HF and 6m. I bought a KRC2 and have just finished building it. However,I find there is not a 6m output. I suppose I could work on the NOT 6m principle and energise a relay based on it being any other band but that limits things a little. It should be simple using the KRC2 configuration utility, but that has not yet heard of the 6m band. Mike wayne burdick wrote: > > Hi John, > > Both! > > The K3 works with the KRC2 for controlling complex antenna or > transverter switching. But it also provides amplifier control signals, > as well as 4 open-drain band-data outputs. These are discussed in the > Owner's manual, in the "Rear Panel" section. > > Normally the band-data signals output a 4-bit binary code that works > with 3rd-party band decoders, and/or transverter addresses that you > select on a per-transverter basis. But we could also allow these to be > used as 4 general-purpose, active-low relay enables for small relays, > or as signals you could derive relay drive from. The could be mapped > per-band using a PC utility. This would require additional firmware > that we haven't written, pending a survey of how operators would like > to use them. > > 73, > Wayne > N6KR > > On Oct 24, 2007, at 4:29 AM, John Reilly wrote: > >> Is the functionality of the KRC2 built into the K3, or is it still >> necessary for interfacing to amplifiers and antennas? >> - 73. John. WØJFR > > --- > > http://www.elecraft.com > > ___ > Elecraft mailing list > Post to: Elecraft@mailman.qth.net > You must be a subscriber to post to the list. > Subscriber Info (Addr. Change, sub, unsub etc.): > http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft > > Help: http://mailman.qth.net/subscribers.htm > Elecraft web page: http://www.elecraft.com > > > -- View this message in context: http://www.nabble.com/K3---KRC2-tp14084654p18324873.html Sent from the Elecraft mailing list archive at Nabble.com. ___ Elecraft mailing list Post to: Elecraft@mailman.qth.net You must be a subscriber to post to the list. Subscriber Info (Addr. Change, sub, unsub etc.): http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/subscribers.htm Elecraft web page: http://www.elecraft.com
Re: [Elecraft] K3 & KRC2
Mike, The coding for the K3 6 meter band is the same as the KRC2 60 meter band (and the KRC2 does not decode the combination used by the K3 for 60 meters). Connect the KRC2 to the K3 and verify that the /60 output goes to ground (check with ohmmeter) when the K3 selects 6 meters. I know this is the case for the K3 Band0 - Band3 ouputs, but I have not tried the KRC2 with the K3 yet - I am assuming that the AUXBUS settings are the same as the Band0-Band3 conditions, but then one knows about assumptions, it needs to be checked. 73. Don W3FPR AD6XY - Mike wrote: Is there an easy way for the KRC2 and K3 to give an output for 6m? My problem - quite common I expect, is to switch antennas between HF and 6m. I bought a KRC2 and have just finished building it. However,I find there is not a 6m output. I suppose I could work on the NOT 6m principle and energise a relay based on it being any other band but that limits things a little. It should be simple using the KRC2 configuration utility, but that has not yet heard of the 6m band. ___ Elecraft mailing list Post to: Elecraft@mailman.qth.net You must be a subscriber to post to the list. Subscriber Info (Addr. Change, sub, unsub etc.): http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/subscribers.htm Elecraft web page: http://www.elecraft.com
Re: [Elecraft] [K3][KRC2]
> I've been trying to get my KRC2 to function properly with the > K3, but it's an uphill battle. It does not appear to be willing > to talk to the PC, and does not update band selection when > connected to the K3. Is there anyone who is successfully > using this setup that could spare a few moments to compare > notes on how to set up the KRC2 and what to expect for > functionality. The documentation is woefully sparse on this > subject with respect to the K3. I've been using the KRC2 with my K3s for 18 months now. I don't have the manual here right now, but I thought the latest version does give the configuration for the K3. If not, just follow the K2 configuration for the AUXBUS connection. Ed - W0YK ___ Elecraft mailing list Post to: Elecraft@mailman.qth.net You must be a subscriber to post to the list. Subscriber Info (Addr. Change, sub, unsub etc.): http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/subscribers.htm Elecraft web page: http://www.elecraft.com
Re: [Elecraft] [K3] [KRC2]
Yes. Use the auxbus connection rather than RS232. You can also use the band out lines with pull ups. If you have a transverter, do not loop the signals besides auxbus through the KRC2. The KRC2 loads the "K3 on" and "Key" signals too much. The KRC2 does not understand 6m, at least my version with the accessibility firmware does not. 6m will appear as an undefined band, which happens to correspond to 160m. I am sure Elecraft are working on new KRC2 firmware. Mike -- View this message in context: http://n2.nabble.com/-KRC2--tp2201066p2202309.html Sent from the [K3] mailing list archive at Nabble.com. ___ Elecraft mailing list Post to: Elecraft@mailman.qth.net You must be a subscriber to post to the list. Subscriber Info (Addr. Change, sub, unsub etc.): http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/subscribers.htm Elecraft web page: http://www.elecraft.com
Re: [Elecraft] [K3] [KRC2]
AD6XY wrote: > > > The KRC2 does not understand 6m, at least my version with the > accessibility firmware does not. 6m will appear as an undefined band, > which happens to correspond to 160m. I am sure Elecraft are working on new > KRC2 firmware. > > Mike > I have just noticed the new firmware is now available for download. Version 1.5. The KRC2 can now map 6m to 60m or 10m. This effectively means you have a choice of which HF band to work as 6m. To select this you need to use an invisible feature in the menu for the KRC2 on the K3. Press Button 1 (A/B, 1, B.SET) on the K3 to toggle 6m being mapped to 10m or 60m. Note to Elecraft: Would it not have been lot more useful to equate 6m to one of the ACC or XV lines? -- View this message in context: http://n2.nabble.com/-KRC2--tp2201066p2202428.html Sent from the [K3] mailing list archive at Nabble.com. ___ Elecraft mailing list Post to: Elecraft@mailman.qth.net You must be a subscriber to post to the list. Subscriber Info (Addr. Change, sub, unsub etc.): http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/subscribers.htm Elecraft web page: http://www.elecraft.com
Re: [Elecraft] [K3] [KRC2]
While the use of the AuxBus connection is preferred for K3-KRC2 communications, it does not carry information needed by the KRC2ACC to announce radio status. For this the KRC2 needs to be connected to the radio using the serial port. To get full functionality from the KRC2ACC here, which include radio change CW announcements, band switching and ACC control from the radio, both serial port and AuxBus need to be connected. And don't forget that the serial port needs to be running at 4800 baud for all KRC2/KRC2ACC firmware versions prior to V1.5. The V1.5 firmware adds recognition of 6 meters from the K3, and new microcontrollers from the factory have the bandmaps set to output the 6m selection on the XV1 pins. Users upgrading from earlier firmware versions will need to use the configuration tool to remap their bandmaps to enable this selection. Unfortunately there appears to be a problem with the KRC2 configuration tool communicating with the KRC2 which currently prohibits this. We are investigating the problem and potential fixes. Anyone contemplating use of the KRC2 or KRC2ACC with their K3 should download and read the KRC2 manual, revision C from the Elecraft website, Manuals & Downloads page. It has a revised section on connecting the KRC2 with various radios including the K3. Jack Brindle, W6FB Elecraft KRC2 Engineering On Jan 23, 2009, at 1:53 AM, AD6XY wrote: AD6XY wrote: The KRC2 does not understand 6m, at least my version with the accessibility firmware does not. 6m will appear as an undefined band, which happens to correspond to 160m. I am sure Elecraft are working on new KRC2 firmware. Mike I have just noticed the new firmware is now available for download. Version 1.5. The KRC2 can now map 6m to 60m or 10m. This effectively means you have a choice of which HF band to work as 6m. To select this you need to use an invisible feature in the menu for the KRC2 on the K3. Press Button 1 (A/B, 1, B.SET) on the K3 to toggle 6m being mapped to 10m or 60m. Note to Elecraft: Would it not have been lot more useful to equate 6m to one of the ACC or XV lines? -- View this message in context: http://n2.nabble.com/-KRC2--tp2201066p2202428.html Sent from the [K3] mailing list archive at Nabble.com. ___ Elecraft mailing list Post to: Elecraft@mailman.qth.net You must be a subscriber to post to the list. Subscriber Info (Addr. Change, sub, unsub etc.): http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/subscribers.htm Elecraft web page: http://www.elecraft.com - Jack Brindle, W6FB - ___ Elecraft mailing list Post to: Elecraft@mailman.qth.net You must be a subscriber to post to the list. Subscriber Info (Addr. Change, sub, unsub etc.): http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/subscribers.htm Elecraft web page: http://www.elecraft.com
Re: [Elecraft] K3 & KRC2
The KRC2 is usable with the K3, and provides a lot of capability, however, you can also use simpler systems. There's BCD-encoded band data and you can get an antenna relay driver for about $20. that'll work with that- http://www.unifiedmicro.com/decoder.html. I'm planning to build a little circuit to take those BCD outputs and provide the ICOM band select voltage for my older ICOM amp. I'm starting the testing and calibration phase of the basic K3 assembly now, having started yesterday AM, and taking plenty of time out for other stuff, including nit-picking the manual. 73, doug Date: Wed, 24 Oct 2007 05:29:00 -0600 From: John Reilly <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Is the functionality of the KRC2 built into the K3, or is it still necessary for interfacing to amplifiers and antennas? - 73. John. WØJFR ___ Elecraft mailing list Post to: Elecraft@mailman.qth.net You must be a subscriber to post to the list. Subscriber Info (Addr. Change, sub, unsub etc.): http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/subscribers.htm Elecraft web page: http://www.elecraft.com
Re: [Elecraft] K3: KRC2 interface
Bill, The KRC2 does not need the 8R input for use with the K2 or K3. Look at page 20 of the KRC2 manual and you will see that the KRC2 uses 8R only as an analog input. The KeyOut signal timing is equivalent to the K2 8R signal. 73, Don W3FPR Bill Coleman N2BC wrote: Just doing some planning for the eventual arrival of my K3. The KRC2 needs AUXBUS 8R and ground. Where / what on the K3 AUX I/O connecter is 8R or it's equivalent? Thanks! 73, Bill N2BC ___ Elecraft mailing list Post to: Elecraft@mailman.qth.net You must be a subscriber to post to the list. Subscriber Info (Addr. Change, sub, unsub etc.): http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/subscribers.htm Elecraft web page: http://www.elecraft.com
Re: [Elecraft] K3: KRC2 interface
Hi Don, Do you mean the K3 AUX I/O Pin 10 "KEYOUT-LP" line? The purpose of this line is a bit fuzzy, to me anyway. I based my KRC2 'needs' list based on page 21 of the KRC2 manual. The paragraph at the top of the page states that the minimum required for a K2 are: W16 - AUXBUS W18 - 12V (can be provided via external source) W19 - 8R W21 - to pass PC serial info to K2 (not needed in K3) W23 - ditto W21 Table 3 states that the KRC2 uses 8R to determine TX/RX status, I would have thought to inhibit band changing while transmitting. I just tried the KRC2 without feeding it 8R from the K2 (W19 pulled). 8R is indeed not 'needed' to handle the band info from the AUXBUS. Tried changing bands on the K2 while key down or asserting PTT - it won't change. But the K2 remembers the band change key press and does change once key down or PTT is dropped & the KRC2 follows. Anywho, it looks like the K2 is smart enough to not change bands while in TX & the KRC2 will follow the AUXBUS as/when ordered. I'm sure the K3 is at least that smart [ ;-) ] So I amend my KRC2 "needs" list to simply AUXBUS and ground - GREAT! 73, Bill N2BC - Original Message - From: "Don Wilhelm" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: "Bill Coleman N2BC" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Cc: "elecraft" Sent: Wednesday, January 30, 2008 9:48 AM Subject: Re: [Elecraft] K3: KRC2 interface Bill, The KRC2 does not need the 8R input for use with the K2 or K3. Look at page 20 of the KRC2 manual and you will see that the KRC2 uses 8R only as an analog input. The KeyOut signal timing is equivalent to the K2 8R signal. 73, Don W3FPR Bill Coleman N2BC wrote: Just doing some planning for the eventual arrival of my K3. The KRC2 needs AUXBUS 8R and ground. Where / what on the K3 AUX I/O connecter is 8R or it's equivalent? Thanks! 73, Bill N2BC ___ Elecraft mailing list Post to: Elecraft@mailman.qth.net You must be a subscriber to post to the list. Subscriber Info (Addr. Change, sub, unsub etc.): http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/subscribers.htm Elecraft web page: http://www.elecraft.com
Re: [Elecraft] [K3]_[KRC2]_Is_there_a_KRC3_in_the_w orks?
Its a -very- active current project. :-) We have finished SVGA hardware on completed pc boards. The firmware is being finished and tested in the lab as I type this. The SVGA adapter for the P3 plugs into the existing rear IO board inside the P3. It can be added to any existing P3 very easily. We are currently displaying P3 data on the external monitor at up to 1920 x 1080p. It looks very cool. Stay tuned! 73, Eric www.elecraft.com _..._ On Oct 14, 2011, at 10:44 PM, Bob wrote: > Leave it at or?? Please expand on the "or". > > Is the P3 a finished project "or" we ever see the ability to attach a larger > screen as was > mentioned here on the reflector. That ability was a consideration in the > original purchase. > > 73, > Bob > K2TK > > On 10/14/2011 3:01 PM, Wayne Burdick wrote: >> We're trying to line up a resource to update it. Everyone seems to be >> working on the K3, or the KX3, or the KAT500, or... well, let's just >> leave it at "or". >> >> 73, >> Wayne >> N6KR >> >> > __ > Elecraft mailing list > Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft > Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm > Post: mailto:Elecraft@mailman.qth.net > > This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net > Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html __ Elecraft mailing list Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm Post: mailto:Elecraft@mailman.qth.net This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html
Re: [Elecraft] [K3]_[KRC2]_Is_there_a_KRC3_in_the_w orks?
So, if I was going to purchase a monitor, say 23-25" diagonal, what should I look for besides the 1920 X 1080P resolution? Pixel response time? 5ms seems to be the norm. I assume a 16:9 aspect ratio? Does contrast ratio make a difference? I assume I'll want one with a VGA interface, not DVI or HDMI? On 10/17/2011 1:01 AM, Eric Swartz WA6HHQ - Elecraft wrote: > Its a -very- active current project. :-) We have finished SVGA hardware on > completed pc boards. The firmware is being finished and tested in the lab as > I type this. > > The SVGA adapter for the P3 plugs into the existing rear IO board inside the > P3. It can be added to any existing P3 very easily. > > We are currently displaying P3 data on the external monitor at up to 1920 x > 1080p. It looks very cool. Stay tuned! > > 73, > Eric > > www.elecraft.com > _..._ > > > > On Oct 14, 2011, at 10:44 PM, Bob wrote: > >> Leave it at or?? Please expand on the "or". >> >> Is the P3 a finished project "or" we ever see the ability to attach a larger >> screen as was >> mentioned here on the reflector. That ability was a consideration in the >> original purchase. >> >> 73, >> Bob >> K2TK >> >> On 10/14/2011 3:01 PM, Wayne Burdick wrote: >>> We're trying to line up a resource to update it. Everyone seems to be >>> working on the K3, or the KX3, or the KAT500, or... well, let's just >>> leave it at "or". >>> >>> 73, >>> Wayne >>> N6KR >>> >>> >> __ >> Elecraft mailing list >> Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft >> Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm >> Post: mailto:Elecraft@mailman.qth.net >> >> This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net >> Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html > __ > Elecraft mailing list > Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft > Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm > Post: mailto:Elecraft@mailman.qth.net > > This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net > Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html > -- 73, Gary K9GS Check out K9NS on the web: http://www.k9ns.com Greater Milwaukee DX Association: http://www.gmdxa.org Society of Midwest Contesters: http://www.w9smc.com __ Elecraft mailing list Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm Post: mailto:Elecraft@mailman.qth.net This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html
Re: [Elecraft] [K3]_[KRC2]_Is_there_a_KRC3_in_the_w orks?
Anyone?? On 10/19/2011 9:58 PM, Gary K9GS wrote: > So, if I was going to purchase a monitor, say 23-25" diagonal, what > should I look for besides the 1920 X 1080P resolution? > > Pixel response time? 5ms seems to be the norm. > I assume a 16:9 aspect ratio? > Does contrast ratio make a difference? > I assume I'll want one with a VGA interface, not DVI or HDMI? > > > > On 10/17/2011 1:01 AM, Eric Swartz WA6HHQ - Elecraft wrote: >> Its a -very- active current project. :-) We have finished SVGA hardware on >> completed pc boards. The firmware is being finished and tested in the lab as >> I type this. >> >> The SVGA adapter for the P3 plugs into the existing rear IO board inside >> the P3. It can be added to any existing P3 very easily. >> >> We are currently displaying P3 data on the external monitor at up to 1920 x >> 1080p. It looks very cool. Stay tuned! >> >> 73, >> Eric >> >> www.elecraft.com >> _..._ >> >> >> >> On Oct 14, 2011, at 10:44 PM, Bob wrote: >> >>> Leave it at or?? Please expand on the "or". >>> >>> Is the P3 a finished project "or" we ever see the ability to attach a larger >>> screen as was >>> mentioned here on the reflector. That ability was a consideration in the >>> original purchase. >>> >>> 73, >>> Bob >>> K2TK >>> >>> On 10/14/2011 3:01 PM, Wayne Burdick wrote: We're trying to line up a resource to update it. Everyone seems to be working on the K3, or the KX3, or the KAT500, or... well, let's just leave it at "or". 73, Wayne N6KR >>> __ >>> Elecraft mailing list >>> Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft >>> Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm >>> Post: mailto:Elecraft@mailman.qth.net >>> >>> This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net >>> Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html >> __ >> Elecraft mailing list >> Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft >> Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm >> Post: mailto:Elecraft@mailman.qth.net >> >> This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net >> Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html >> -- 73, Gary K9GS Check out K9NS on the web: http://www.k9ns.com Greater Milwaukee DX Association: http://www.gmdxa.org Society of Midwest Contesters: http://www.w9smc.com __ Elecraft mailing list Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm Post: mailto:Elecraft@mailman.qth.net This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html
Re: [Elecraft] [K3]_[KRC2]_Is_there_a_KRC3_in_the_w orks?
On Fri, 2011-10-21 at 22:24 -0500, Gary K9GS wrote: > Anyone?? > > On 10/19/2011 9:58 PM, Gary K9GS wrote: > > So, if I was going to purchase a monitor, say 23-25" diagonal, what > > should I look for besides the 1920 X 1080P resolution? > > > > Pixel response time? 5ms seems to be the norm. > > I assume a 16:9 aspect ratio? I believe that's determined by the resolution since the pixels are normally square. so 1920x1080 is16:9, 1280x1024 is 5:4 and 1024x768 is 4:3. > > Does contrast ratio make a difference? > > I assume I'll want one with a VGA interface, not DVI or HDMI? VGA. Alan N1AL > > > > > > > > On 10/17/2011 1:01 AM, Eric Swartz WA6HHQ - Elecraft wrote: > >> Its a -very- active current project. :-) We have finished SVGA hardware on > >> completed pc boards. The firmware is being finished and tested in the lab > >> as I type this. > >> > >> The SVGA adapter for the P3 plugs into the existing rear IO board inside > >> the P3. It can be added to any existing P3 very easily. > >> > >> We are currently displaying P3 data on the external monitor at up to 1920 > >> x 1080p. It looks very cool. Stay tuned! > >> > >> 73, > >> Eric > >> > >> www.elecraft.com > >> _..._ > >> > >> > >> > >> On Oct 14, 2011, at 10:44 PM, Bob wrote: > >> > >>> Leave it at or?? Please expand on the "or". > >>> > >>> Is the P3 a finished project "or" we ever see the ability to attach a > >>> larger > >>> screen as was > >>> mentioned here on the reflector. That ability was a consideration in the > >>> original purchase. > >>> > >>> 73, > >>> Bob > >>> K2TK > >>> > >>> On 10/14/2011 3:01 PM, Wayne Burdick wrote: > We're trying to line up a resource to update it. Everyone seems to be > working on the K3, or the KX3, or the KAT500, or... well, let's just > leave it at "or". > > 73, > Wayne > N6KR > > > >>> __ > >>> Elecraft mailing list > >>> Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft > >>> Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm > >>> Post: mailto:Elecraft@mailman.qth.net > >>> > >>> This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net > >>> Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html > >> __ > >> Elecraft mailing list > >> Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft > >> Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm > >> Post: mailto:Elecraft@mailman.qth.net > >> > >> This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net > >> Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html > >> > __ Elecraft mailing list Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm Post: mailto:Elecraft@mailman.qth.net This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html
Re: [Elecraft] [K3]_[KRC2]_Is_there_a_KRC3_in_the_w orks?
Alan Bloom wrote: >On Fri, 2011-10-21 at 22:24 -0500, Gary K9GS wrote: >> Anyone?? >> >> On 10/19/2011 9:58 PM, Gary K9GS wrote: >> > So, if I was going to purchase a monitor, say 23-25" diagonal, what >> > should I look for besides the 1920 X 1080P resolution? >> > >> > Pixel response time? 5ms seems to be the norm. >> > I assume a 16:9 aspect ratio? > >I believe that's determined by the resolution since the pixels are >normally square. so 1920x1080 is16:9, 1280x1024 is 5:4 and 1024x768 is >4:3. > Earlier, Alan had also mentioned that "the plan is" to support all three of those formats. (For reference, the native P3 format is 480x272, very close to 16:9.) Any chance of some "teaser" screen shots at these higher resolutions, please? It would help many people to plan their future station layout. -- 73 from Ian GM3SEK http://www.ifwtech.co.uk/g3sek __ Elecraft mailing list Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm Post: mailto:Elecraft@mailman.qth.net This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html
Re: [Elecraft] [K3]_[KRC2]_Is_there_a_KRC3_in_the_w orks?
Let me pendantic here. The configuration program connects to the KRC2 when the program is started, but when I press the 'Send to KRC2' button, it shows an error message saying it cannot connect. I beleive this is the same behavior that some other on the mail list have seen. In all cases, I'm using a variant of Windows XP, either Personal or Professional. The config program fails to update the KRC2 on all three of the XP machines I've tried, but in all cases, I can use the download program to re-flash the KRC2. 73, -- Dave, N8SBE > Original Message ---- > Subject: Re: [Elecraft] [K3]_[KRC2]_Is_there_a_KRC3_in_the_w orks? > From: "Dave New, N8SBE" > Date: Fri, October 14, 2011 2:25 pm > To: "W0MU Mike Fatchett" > Cc: elecraft@mailman.qth.net > > > To be clear, I have no issues with interfacing the KRC2 with external > devices. > > The only issue I've had is using the Windows-based program provided on > the Elecraft web site to attempt to configure the behavior of the KRC2. > It always fails to connect to the KRC2, no matter what settings I try, > on both the KRC2 and the computer, including using two different > varieties of USB to serial cables (both of which work with all my other > equipment, including the K3 and P3), and a laptop from work that has a > real serial port. > > On the other hand, the re-flash program works just dandy. I can > re-flash the KRC2 at will, over and over again, ad infitum, ad nauseum. > So, I don't think the problem lies in the computer to KRC2 interface. > I've been tempted to reverse-compile the KRC2 code file, which is rather > small, so I could just patch the configuration table in the flash image, > recompute the checksum and re-flash. Maybe if I wasn't putting in 50+ > hours a week at my day job, and about 15 hours commuting a week on top > of that, I'd feel like I had more time to spend on such a fascinating > adventure. I have 30+ years embedded software development experience, > so it really wouldn't be all that hard for me. > > As it is, I'd rather spend what spare time I have building my station > and operating, instead of debugging the KRC2 configuration software. > > 73, > > -- Dave, N8SBE > > P.S. Everyone at Elecraft has been really nice when I talk to them about > my KRC2 issues, and offer to help, then it just seems to fall into a > black hole. It seems to me that the KRC2 support is really just not on > anyone's priority list. I guess that would be fine with me, and I could > just go about figuring out how to work around it. > > > Original Message > > Subject: Re: [Elecraft] [K3] Is there a KRC3 in the works? > > From: W0MU Mike Fatchett > > Date: Fri, October 14, 2011 1:25 pm > > To: elecraft@mailman.qth.net > > > > > > I have had issues with my KRC2 much of it is the poor operations manual > > and interfacing to the K3. Jack at Elecraft and Gary have been great to > > work with. Many of my problems appear to have been from jumper issues. > > The documentation needs some major work in the way of examples of how to > > hook up the unit to other devices etc. > > > > I had issues with the Array Solutions band decoders and Don, Jack and > > Gary were all very helpful in solving them. There are many answers due > > to the fact that there are absolutely no standards when it comes to > > devices such as bandpass filters etc. Some companies put pull up > > resistors in their devices others do not. > > > > If you want a device that can control your bandpass filters and multiple > > antenna boxes look at the Microham Station Master. It gathers band data > > from the Aux line and looks pretty slick. If I needed a box that did > > more than just drive my bandpass filters I would own one! > > > > Mike W0MU > > > > J6/W0MU November 21 - December 1 2011 CQ WW DX CW > > W0MU-1 CC Cluster w0mu.net > > > > > > On 10/14/2011 10:26 AM, Dave New, N8SBE wrote: > > > Don't hold your breath. I've been waiting literally for years to get > > > the configuration code fixed. Apparently because it works for some > > > folk, then it must be my fault I haven't been able to get it to work on > > > no less then three different computers, some with real serial ports. > > > > > > I need to program it to drive a 3 of 8 encoded Ameritron head. I > > > ordered just the head figuring that I didn't need their control box. > > > I'm about to order the Ameritron control box now, because it will accept > > > 1 of 8 from an external box (which
Re: [Elecraft] [K3]_[KRC2]_Is_there_a_KRC3_in_the_w orks?
Sorry, Dave, the program was written in Visual Basic for an earlier PC OS. Seems to work under XP in some but not all cases. We're trying to line up a resource to update it. Everyone seems to be working on the K3, or the KX3, or the KAT500, or... well, let's just leave it at "or". 73, Wayne N6KR On Oct 14, 2011, at 11:52 AM, Dave New, N8SBE wrote: > Let me pendantic here. The configuration program connects to the KRC2 > when the program is started, but when I press the 'Send to KRC2' > button, > it shows an error message saying it cannot connect. > > I beleive this is the same behavior that some other on the mail list > have seen. > > In all cases, I'm using a variant of Windows XP, either Personal or > Professional. The config program fails to update the KRC2 on all > three > of the XP machines I've tried, but in all cases, I can use the > download > program to re-flash the KRC2. > > 73, > > -- Dave, N8SBE __ Elecraft mailing list Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm Post: mailto:Elecraft@mailman.qth.net This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html
Re: [Elecraft] [K3]_[KRC2]_Is_there_a_KRC3_in_the_w orks?
Thanks, Wayne. Like I said, everyone at Elecraft has been super nice about this, but as you say, priorities seem to be getting in the way of having someone look into this. Growing pains, I suppose. I appreciate you taking time from Pacificon to contact me. 73, -- Dave, N8SBE > Original Message > Subject: Re: [K3]_[KRC2]_Is_there_a_KRC3_in_the_w orks? > From: Wayne Burdick > Date: Fri, October 14, 2011 3:01 pm > To: "Dave New, N8SBE" > Cc: elecraft@mailman.qth.net > > > Sorry, Dave, the program was written in Visual Basic for an earlier PC > OS. Seems to work under XP in some but not all cases. > > We're trying to line up a resource to update it. Everyone seems to be > working on the K3, or the KX3, or the KAT500, or... well, let's just > leave it at "or". > > 73, > Wayne > N6KR > > > On Oct 14, 2011, at 11:52 AM, Dave New, N8SBE wrote: > > > Let me pendantic here. The configuration program connects to the KRC2 > > when the program is started, but when I press the 'Send to KRC2' > > button, > > it shows an error message saying it cannot connect. > > > > I beleive this is the same behavior that some other on the mail list > > have seen. > > > > In all cases, I'm using a variant of Windows XP, either Personal or > > Professional. The config program fails to update the KRC2 on all > > three > > of the XP machines I've tried, but in all cases, I can use the > > download > > program to re-flash the KRC2. > > > > 73, > > > > -- Dave, N8SBE __ Elecraft mailing list Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm Post: mailto:Elecraft@mailman.qth.net This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html
Re: [Elecraft] [K3]_[KRC2]_Is_there_a_KRC3_in_the_w orks?
Leave it at or?? Please expand on the "or". Is the P3 a finished project "or" we ever see the ability to attach a larger screen as was mentioned here on the reflector. That ability was a consideration in the original purchase. 73, Bob K2TK On 10/14/2011 3:01 PM, Wayne Burdick wrote: > We're trying to line up a resource to update it. Everyone seems to be > working on the K3, or the KX3, or the KAT500, or... well, let's just > leave it at "or". > > 73, > Wayne > N6KR > > __ Elecraft mailing list Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm Post: mailto:Elecraft@mailman.qth.net This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html
Re: [Elecraft] K3/KRC2/XV144/KPA500 Combo
Stan, You only need the one Y adapter for the KPA100. The XV144 can daisy-chain off the KRC2 connector. It is similar to daisy-chaining several transverters as shown in the XV Owner's manual. 73, Don W3FPR On 7/27/2011 1:36 PM, Stan Gibbs wrote: > Looking toward future station enhancements, I can see where I might want to > hang a KRC2, an XV144 and a KPA500 off of the ACC connector of my K3. > > Is there any reason that this won't work, assuming a couple of Y-adapter > cables? > > > - > 73, Stan - KR7C > -- > View this message in context: > http://elecraft.365791.n2.nabble.com/K3-KRC2-XV144-KPA500-Combo-tp6627049p6627049.html > Sent from the Elecraft mailing list archive at Nabble.com. > __ > Elecraft mailing list > Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft > Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm > Post: mailto:Elecraft@mailman.qth.net > > This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net > Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html > __ Elecraft mailing list Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm Post: mailto:Elecraft@mailman.qth.net This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html
Re: [Elecraft] K3/KRC2/XV144/KPA500 Combo
Hi Don, Thanks for the response. If I read the KRC2 and XV144 manuals correctly, the way this would be set up is to use the DB15/DB9 cable provided with the XV144 to connect the K3 to the KRC2 "XCVR" DB9 connector and then use a DB9/DB9 straight-through cable to connect the XV144 to the KRC2 "PC" port. Is that correct? It seems a bit strange that the KRC2 kit doesn't provide a DB15 connector as well as a DB9 for making up the control cable. - 73, Stan - KR7C -- View this message in context: http://elecraft.365791.n2.nabble.com/K3-KRC2-XV144-KPA500-Combo-tp6627049p6627835.html Sent from the Elecraft mailing list archive at Nabble.com. __ Elecraft mailing list Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm Post: mailto:Elecraft@mailman.qth.net This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html
Re: [Elecraft] K3/KRC2/XV144/KPA500 Combo
Stan, That is correct. On the "strangeness", remember that the KRC2 was developed for the K2, and the DB-9 connector had all the pins that were needed. 73, Don W3FPR On 7/27/2011 5:36 PM, Stan Gibbs wrote: > Hi Don, > > Thanks for the response. > > If I read the KRC2 and XV144 manuals correctly, the way this would be set up > is to use the DB15/DB9 cable provided with the XV144 to connect the K3 to > the KRC2 "XCVR" DB9 connector and then use a DB9/DB9 straight-through cable > to connect the XV144 to the KRC2 "PC" port. Is that correct? > > It seems a bit strange that the KRC2 kit doesn't provide a DB15 connector as > well as a DB9 for making up the control cable. > > __ Elecraft mailing list Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm Post: mailto:Elecraft@mailman.qth.net This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html
Re: [Elecraft] K3/KRC2/XV144/KPA500 Combo
Don, Certainly, I understand the history. How about a KRC3 kit? :-) Don Wilhelm-4 wrote: > > On the "strangeness", remember that the KRC2 was developed for the K2, > and the DB-9 connector had all the pins that were needed. > - 73, Stan - KR7C -- View this message in context: http://elecraft.365791.n2.nabble.com/K3-KRC2-XV144-KPA500-Combo-tp6627049p6627967.html Sent from the Elecraft mailing list archive at Nabble.com. __ Elecraft mailing list Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm Post: mailto:Elecraft@mailman.qth.net This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html
Re: [Elecraft] K3/KRC2/XV144/KPA500 Combo
I'm using a pair of Y cables cascaded to run my KPA500 and XV144. One port is open now. It works great. I discovered that if I hit the AUX band button on the KPA500 it brings up the transverter band. 73... Randy, W8FN On 07/27/2011 12:36, Stan Gibbs wrote: > Looking toward future station enhancements, I can see where I might want to > hang a KRC2, an XV144 and a KPA500 off of the ACC connector of my K3. > > Is there any reason that this won't work, assuming a couple of Y-adapter > cables? __ Elecraft mailing list Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm Post: mailto:Elecraft@mailman.qth.net This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html
Re: [Elecraft] K3/KRC2/XV144/KPA500 Combo
It should work just fine. I have up to 3 transverters and KRC2 attached. I did notice some strange effects if I daisy chained several XVs where one was unpowered. So look out for that sort of thing if you have trouble. If you have trouble with wiring to the 15pin connector on the back of the K3 Winford Engineering have some useful breakout boards and cables. Mike -- View this message in context: http://elecraft.365791.n2.nabble.com/K3-KRC2-XV144-KPA500-Combo-tp6627049p6641270.html Sent from the Elecraft mailing list archive at Nabble.com. __ Elecraft mailing list Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm Post: mailto:Elecraft@mailman.qth.net This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html
Re: [Elecraft] K3/KRC2/XV144/KPA500 Combo
The KRC2 will switch the XVTR's just fine, but will not switch 6m at this time. I believe the K3 firmware needs a change before that will work. 73, Tom Amateur Radio Operator N5GE ARRL Lifetime Member QCWA Lifetime Member On Mon, 1 Aug 2011 07:52:35 -0700 (PDT), AD6XY wrote: >It should work just fine. I have up to 3 transverters and KRC2 attached. I >did notice some strange effects if I daisy chained several XVs where one was >unpowered. So look out for that sort of thing if you have trouble. > >If you have trouble with wiring to the 15pin connector on the back of the K3 >Winford Engineering have some useful breakout boards and cables. > >Mike __ Elecraft mailing list Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm Post: mailto:Elecraft@mailman.qth.net This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html
Re: [Elecraft] [K3]_[KRC2]_Is_there_a_KRC3_in_th e_w orks?
Maybe some XP service pack changed a DLL that the program was dependent on. As a lark, I might try loading a 'donor' PC with an original unpatched XP, to see if that works. 73, -- Dave, N8SBE > Original Message ---- > Subject: Re: [Elecraft] [K3]_[KRC2]_Is_there_a_KRC3_in_th e_w orks? > From: "Dave New, N8SBE" > Date: Fri, October 14, 2011 3:12 pm > To: "Wayne Burdick" > Cc: elecraft@mailman.qth.net > > > Thanks, Wayne. > > Like I said, everyone at Elecraft has been super nice about this, but as > you say, priorities seem to be getting in the way of having someone look > into this. > > Growing pains, I suppose. I appreciate you taking time from Pacificon > to contact me. > > 73, > > -- Dave, N8SBE > > > Original Message > > Subject: Re: [K3]_[KRC2]_Is_there_a_KRC3_in_the_w orks? > > From: Wayne Burdick > > Date: Fri, October 14, 2011 3:01 pm > > To: "Dave New, N8SBE" > > Cc: elecraft@mailman.qth.net > > > > > > Sorry, Dave, the program was written in Visual Basic for an earlier PC > > OS. Seems to work under XP in some but not all cases. > > > > We're trying to line up a resource to update it. Everyone seems to be > > working on the K3, or the KX3, or the KAT500, or... well, let's just > > leave it at "or". > > > > 73, > > Wayne > > N6KR > > > > > > On Oct 14, 2011, at 11:52 AM, Dave New, N8SBE wrote: > > > > > Let me pendantic here. The configuration program connects to the KRC2 > > > when the program is started, but when I press the 'Send to KRC2' > > > button, > > > it shows an error message saying it cannot connect. > > > > > > I beleive this is the same behavior that some other on the mail list > > > have seen. > > > > > > In all cases, I'm using a variant of Windows XP, either Personal or > > > Professional. The config program fails to update the KRC2 on all > > > three > > > of the XP machines I've tried, but in all cases, I can use the > > > download > > > program to re-flash the KRC2. > > > > > > 73, > > > > > > -- Dave, N8SBE > > __ > Elecraft mailing list > Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft > Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm > Post: mailto:Elecraft@mailman.qth.net > > This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net > Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html __ Elecraft mailing list Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm Post: mailto:Elecraft@mailman.qth.net This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html
Re: [Elecraft] [K3] [KRC2] Is there a KRC3 in the works?
To be clear, I have no issues with interfacing the KRC2 with external devices. The only issue I've had is using the Windows-based program provided on the Elecraft web site to attempt to configure the behavior of the KRC2. It always fails to connect to the KRC2, no matter what settings I try, on both the KRC2 and the computer, including using two different varieties of USB to serial cables (both of which work with all my other equipment, including the K3 and P3), and a laptop from work that has a real serial port. On the other hand, the re-flash program works just dandy. I can re-flash the KRC2 at will, over and over again, ad infitum, ad nauseum. So, I don't think the problem lies in the computer to KRC2 interface. I've been tempted to reverse-compile the KRC2 code file, which is rather small, so I could just patch the configuration table in the flash image, recompute the checksum and re-flash. Maybe if I wasn't putting in 50+ hours a week at my day job, and about 15 hours commuting a week on top of that, I'd feel like I had more time to spend on such a fascinating adventure. I have 30+ years embedded software development experience, so it really wouldn't be all that hard for me. As it is, I'd rather spend what spare time I have building my station and operating, instead of debugging the KRC2 configuration software. 73, -- Dave, N8SBE P.S. Everyone at Elecraft has been really nice when I talk to them about my KRC2 issues, and offer to help, then it just seems to fall into a black hole. It seems to me that the KRC2 support is really just not on anyone's priority list. I guess that would be fine with me, and I could just go about figuring out how to work around it. > Original Message > Subject: Re: [Elecraft] [K3] Is there a KRC3 in the works? > From: W0MU Mike Fatchett > Date: Fri, October 14, 2011 1:25 pm > To: elecraft@mailman.qth.net > > > I have had issues with my KRC2 much of it is the poor operations manual > and interfacing to the K3. Jack at Elecraft and Gary have been great to > work with. Many of my problems appear to have been from jumper issues. > The documentation needs some major work in the way of examples of how to > hook up the unit to other devices etc. > > I had issues with the Array Solutions band decoders and Don, Jack and > Gary were all very helpful in solving them. There are many answers due > to the fact that there are absolutely no standards when it comes to > devices such as bandpass filters etc. Some companies put pull up > resistors in their devices others do not. > > If you want a device that can control your bandpass filters and multiple > antenna boxes look at the Microham Station Master. It gathers band data > from the Aux line and looks pretty slick. If I needed a box that did > more than just drive my bandpass filters I would own one! > > Mike W0MU > > J6/W0MU November 21 - December 1 2011 CQ WW DX CW > W0MU-1 CC Cluster w0mu.net > > > On 10/14/2011 10:26 AM, Dave New, N8SBE wrote: > > Don't hold your breath. I've been waiting literally for years to get > > the configuration code fixed. Apparently because it works for some > > folk, then it must be my fault I haven't been able to get it to work on > > no less then three different computers, some with real serial ports. > > > > I need to program it to drive a 3 of 8 encoded Ameritron head. I > > ordered just the head figuring that I didn't need their control box. > > I'm about to order the Ameritron control box now, because it will accept > > 1 of 8 from an external box (which the KRC2 does normally) and encode it > > into 3 of 8 for the remote head. As a bonus, it will allow me to > > manually select the antenna, if needed. > > > > I have to say that my experience with the KRC2 is the only really > > negative experience I've had with Elecraft gear. Everything else I've > > gotten from them has run just fine, and I've gotten superb support. The > > KRC2 is the only glaring exception, and I suppose I'll just have to > > chalk it up to an old kit that simply isn't on the company's radar any > > more for proper after-sales support. If they no longer want to spend > > the manpower on it any more, they should officially retire it. > > > > 73, > > > > -- Dave, N8SBE > > > >> Original Message > >> Subject: Re: [Elecraft] [K3] Is there a KRC3 in the works? > >> From: Roger D Johnson > >> Date: Thu, October 06, 2011 1:07 pm > >> To: Larry K1UO > >> Cc: elecraft@mailman.qth.net > >> > >> > >> I just built the KRC2 and it supports 60m. Unfortunately, the software is > >> buggy and > >> won't talk to the KRC2 for programming! I'm going to send it back if I > >> can't get it > >> running soon. > >> > >> 73, Roger > >> > >> > >> On 10/5/2011 5:48 PM, Larry K1UO wrote: > >>> I believe a KRC-3 Band decoder than is fully compatible with the K3 > >>> is now > >>> in order? :-) Its getting so that half the available Band decoders (or > >>> more)do not support 6M or even
Re: [Elecraft] [K3] [KRC2] Is there a KRC3 in the works?
Does this problem persist with the v. 1.6 firmware that has just been released? The message announcing this listed "Fixed problem with serial communications when loading band-maps" as one of the changes. I haven't tried it myself because I have a customized bandmap and at some point became unable to change it, because of the "no KRC2 found" problem that you describe. So I am scared to death to do ANYTHING that might reset my KRC2! On 10/14/2011 11:25 AM, Dave New, N8SBE wrote: > To be clear, I have no issues with interfacing the KRC2 with external > devices. > > The only issue I've had is using the Windows-based program provided on > the Elecraft web site to attempt to configure the behavior of the KRC2. > It always fails to connect to the KRC2, no matter what settings I try, > on both the KRC2 and the computer, including using two different > varieties of USB to serial cables (both of which work with all my other > equipment, including the K3 and P3), and a laptop from work that has a > real serial port. > > On the other hand, the re-flash program works just dandy. I can > re-flash the KRC2 at will, over and over again, ad infitum, ad nauseum. > So, I don't think the problem lies in the computer to KRC2 interface. > I've been tempted to reverse-compile the KRC2 code file, which is rather > small, so I could just patch the configuration table in the flash image, > recompute the checksum and re-flash. Maybe if I wasn't putting in 50+ > hours a week at my day job, and about 15 hours commuting a week on top > of that, I'd feel like I had more time to spend on such a fascinating > adventure. I have 30+ years embedded software development experience, > so it really wouldn't be all that hard for me. > > As it is, I'd rather spend what spare time I have building my station > and operating, instead of debugging the KRC2 configuration software. > > 73, > > -- Dave, N8SBE > > P.S. Everyone at Elecraft has been really nice when I talk to them about > my KRC2 issues, and offer to help, then it just seems to fall into a > black hole. It seems to me that the KRC2 support is really just not on > anyone's priority list. I guess that would be fine with me, and I could > just go about figuring out how to work around it. > >> Original Message >> Subject: Re: [Elecraft] [K3] Is there a KRC3 in the works? >> From: W0MU Mike Fatchett >> Date: Fri, October 14, 2011 1:25 pm >> To: elecraft@mailman.qth.net >> >> >> I have had issues with my KRC2 much of it is the poor operations manual >> and interfacing to the K3. Jack at Elecraft and Gary have been great to >> work with. Many of my problems appear to have been from jumper issues. >> The documentation needs some major work in the way of examples of how to >> hook up the unit to other devices etc. >> >> I had issues with the Array Solutions band decoders and Don, Jack and >> Gary were all very helpful in solving them. There are many answers due >> to the fact that there are absolutely no standards when it comes to >> devices such as bandpass filters etc. Some companies put pull up >> resistors in their devices others do not. >> >> If you want a device that can control your bandpass filters and multiple >> antenna boxes look at the Microham Station Master. It gathers band data >> from the Aux line and looks pretty slick. If I needed a box that did >> more than just drive my bandpass filters I would own one! >> >> Mike W0MU >> >> J6/W0MU November 21 - December 1 2011 CQ WW DX CW >> W0MU-1 CC Cluster w0mu.net >> >> >> On 10/14/2011 10:26 AM, Dave New, N8SBE wrote: >>> Don't hold your breath. I've been waiting literally for years to get >>> the configuration code fixed. Apparently because it works for some >>> folk, then it must be my fault I haven't been able to get it to work on >>> no less then three different computers, some with real serial ports. >>> >>> I need to program it to drive a 3 of 8 encoded Ameritron head. I >>> ordered just the head figuring that I didn't need their control box. >>> I'm about to order the Ameritron control box now, because it will accept >>> 1 of 8 from an external box (which the KRC2 does normally) and encode it >>> into 3 of 8 for the remote head. As a bonus, it will allow me to >>> manually select the antenna, if needed. >>> >>> I have to say that my experience with the KRC2 is the only really >>> negative experience I've had with Elecraft gear. Everything else I've >>> gotten from them has run just fine, and I've gotten superb support. The >>> KRC2 is the only glaring exception, and I suppose I'll just have to >>> chalk it up to an old kit that simply isn't on the company's radar any >>> more for proper after-sales support. If they no longer want to spend >>> the manpower on it any more, they should officially retire it. >>> >>> 73, >>> >>> -- Dave, N8SBE >>> Original Message Subject: Re: [Elecraft] [K3] Is there a KRC3 in the works? From: Roger D Johnson Date: Thu
Re: [Elecraft] [K3] [KRC2] Is there a KRC3 in the works?
Somehow ONCE two plus years ago I managed after maybe 100 trys to get the KRC-2 programmed to do what I wanted with it. Now I would love to reprogram it for 6 meters but am scared to death to attempt it. If somehow the KRC-2 does get reprogrammed but incorrectly I fear I would never get it back at least to where it is today. This really needs to be addressed with a new or modified program that WORKS. John k9uwa > To be clear, I have no issues with interfacing the KRC2 with external > devices. > > The only issue I've had is using the Windows-based program provided on > the Elecraft web site to attempt to configure the behavior of the KRC2. > It always fails to connect to the KRC2, no matter what settings I try, > on both the KRC2 and the computer, including using two different > varieties of USB to serial cables (both of which work with all my other > equipment, including the K3 and P3), and a laptop from work that has a > real serial port. > > On the other hand, the re-flash program works just dandy. I can > re-flash the KRC2 at will, over and over again, ad infitum, ad nauseum. > So, I don't think the problem lies in the computer to KRC2 interface. > I've been tempted to reverse-compile the KRC2 code file, which is rather > small, so I could just patch the configuration table in the flash image, > recompute the checksum and re-flash. Maybe if I wasn't putting in 50+ > hours a week at my day job, and about 15 hours commuting a week on top > of that, I'd feel like I had more time to spend on such a fascinating > adventure. I have 30+ years embedded software development experience, > so it really wouldn't be all that hard for me. > > As it is, I'd rather spend what spare time I have building my station > and operating, instead of debugging the KRC2 configuration software. > > 73, > > -- Dave, N8SBE > > P.S. Everyone at Elecraft has been really nice when I talk to them about > my KRC2 issues, and offer to help, then it just seems to fall into a > black hole. It seems to me that the KRC2 support is really just not on > anyone's priority list. I guess that would be fine with me, and I could > just go about figuring out how to work around it. > > > Original Message > > Subject: Re: [Elecraft] [K3] Is there a KRC3 in the works? > > From: W0MU Mike Fatchett > > Date: Fri, October 14, 2011 1:25 pm > > To: elecraft@mailman.qth.net > > > > > > I have had issues with my KRC2 much of it is the poor operations manual > > and interfacing to the K3. Jack at Elecraft and Gary have been great to > > work with. Many of my problems appear to have been from jumper issues. > > The documentation needs some major work in the way of examples of how to > > hook up the unit to other devices etc. > > > > I had issues with the Array Solutions band decoders and Don, Jack and > > Gary were all very helpful in solving them. There are many answers due > > to the fact that there are absolutely no standards when it comes to > > devices such as bandpass filters etc. Some companies put pull up > > resistors in their devices others do not. > > > > If you want a device that can control your bandpass filters and multiple > > antenna boxes look at the Microham Station Master. It gathers band data > > from the Aux line and looks pretty slick. If I needed a box that did > > more than just drive my bandpass filters I would own one! > > > > Mike W0MU > > > > J6/W0MU November 21 - December 1 2011 CQ WW DX CW > > W0MU-1 CC Cluster w0mu.net > > > > > > On 10/14/2011 10:26 AM, Dave New, N8SBE wrote: > > > Don't hold your breath. I've been waiting literally for years to get > > > the configuration code fixed. Apparently because it works for some > > > folk, then it must be my fault I haven't been able to get it to work on no > > > less then three different computers, some with real serial ports. > > > > > > I need to program it to drive a 3 of 8 encoded Ameritron head. I > > > ordered just the head figuring that I didn't need their control box. > > > I'm about to order the Ameritron control box now, because it will accept 1 > > > of 8 from an external box (which the KRC2 does normally) and encode it > > > into > > > 3 of 8 for the remote head. As a bonus, it will allow me to manually > > > select > > > the antenna, if needed. > > > > > > I have to say that my experience with the KRC2 is the only really > > > negative experience I've had with Elecraft gear. Everything else I've > > > gotten from them has run just fine, and I've gotten superb support. The > > > KRC2 is the only glaring exception, and I suppose I'll just have to chalk > > > it > > > up to an old kit that simply isn't on the company's radar any more for > > > proper after-sales support. If they no longer want to spend the manpower > > > on > > > it any more, they should officially retire it. > > > > > > 73, > > > > > > -- Dave, N8SBE > > > > > >> Original Message > > >> Subject: Re: [Elecraft] [K3] Is there a KRC3 in
Re: [Elecraft] [K3] [KRC2] Is there a KRC3 in the works?
Guys; The KRC2 Config program has problems. That is one of the reasons it is still classified as beta. We are trying to line up the resources to fix the problems, and will have something much better as soon as we can. In the meantime, there is a detail that might actually help. When the Config Tool is commanded to download a band map, it appears to do so, but afterwards reports an inability to communicate with the KRC2. But, the band map actually was downloaded and is in the KRC2. The way to check this is to step through the bands, checking that the outputs match the pattern selected in the Config Tool. There are a few other problems in the tool, such as an incorrect default band map pattern, and the inability to set the 6 meter selector for the K3 6 meter mode. Again, we will be correcting these as soon as we possibly can. Unfortunately, our resources are tied up with other much higher priority tasks at present. Our apologies. The priority of the KRC2 Config tool is being bumped higher, and we will resolve the problems as soon as we possibly can. In the meantime, please realize that the KRC2 does a great job with its default band map. Also, there are ways to have a single antenna selected for multiple outputs (such as 10, 15 and 20 meters selecting a triband antenna) by wire-ORing the output pins together. Thank you for your patience. We apologize for stretching it way too far. Jack Brindle, W6FB Elecraft Engineering On Oct 14, 2011, at 11:25 AM, Dave New, N8SBE wrote: > To be clear, I have no issues with interfacing the KRC2 with external > devices. > > The only issue I've had is using the Windows-based program provided on > the Elecraft web site to attempt to configure the behavior of the KRC2. > It always fails to connect to the KRC2, no matter what settings I try, > on both the KRC2 and the computer, including using two different > varieties of USB to serial cables (both of which work with all my other > equipment, including the K3 and P3), and a laptop from work that has a > real serial port. > > On the other hand, the re-flash program works just dandy. I can > re-flash the KRC2 at will, over and over again, ad infitum, ad nauseum. > So, I don't think the problem lies in the computer to KRC2 interface. > I've been tempted to reverse-compile the KRC2 code file, which is rather > small, so I could just patch the configuration table in the flash image, > recompute the checksum and re-flash. Maybe if I wasn't putting in 50+ > hours a week at my day job, and about 15 hours commuting a week on top > of that, I'd feel like I had more time to spend on such a fascinating > adventure. I have 30+ years embedded software development experience, > so it really wouldn't be all that hard for me. > > As it is, I'd rather spend what spare time I have building my station > and operating, instead of debugging the KRC2 configuration software. > > 73, > > -- Dave, N8SBE > > P.S. Everyone at Elecraft has been really nice when I talk to them about > my KRC2 issues, and offer to help, then it just seems to fall into a > black hole. It seems to me that the KRC2 support is really just not on > anyone's priority list. I guess that would be fine with me, and I could > just go about figuring out how to work around it. > >> Original Message >> Subject: Re: [Elecraft] [K3] Is there a KRC3 in the works? >> From: W0MU Mike Fatchett >> Date: Fri, October 14, 2011 1:25 pm >> To: elecraft@mailman.qth.net >> >> >> I have had issues with my KRC2 much of it is the poor operations manual >> and interfacing to the K3. Jack at Elecraft and Gary have been great to >> work with. Many of my problems appear to have been from jumper issues. >> The documentation needs some major work in the way of examples of how to >> hook up the unit to other devices etc. >> >> I had issues with the Array Solutions band decoders and Don, Jack and >> Gary were all very helpful in solving them. There are many answers due >> to the fact that there are absolutely no standards when it comes to >> devices such as bandpass filters etc. Some companies put pull up >> resistors in their devices others do not. >> >> If you want a device that can control your bandpass filters and multiple >> antenna boxes look at the Microham Station Master. It gathers band data >> from the Aux line and looks pretty slick. If I needed a box that did >> more than just drive my bandpass filters I would own one! >> >> Mike W0MU >> >> J6/W0MU November 21 - December 1 2011 CQ WW DX CW >> W0MU-1 CC Cluster w0mu.net >> >> >> On 10/14/2011 10:26 AM, Dave New, N8SBE wrote: >>> Don't hold your breath. I've been waiting literally for years to get >>> the configuration code fixed. Apparently because it works for some >>> folk, then it must be my fault I haven't been able to get it to work on >>> no less then three different computers, some with real serial ports. >>> >>> I need to program it to drive a 3 of 8 encoded Ameritron h
Re: [Elecraft] [K3] [KRC2] Is there a KRC3 in the works?
I agree, with the wire-OR capability of the KRC2 outputs, I do not understand why a configurator program is needed at all -- unless you have need for multiple configurations -- for example, one for contests and another for normal operating. If further expansion is needed, adding some additional diode steering to the KRC2 outputs, many sophisticated switching arrangements can be realized, all with the default configuration. The AC1, 2 and 3 outputs can even be used to switch from one bank of antennas to another controlled by the switches on top of the KRC2. Sophisticated logic switching like that can be accomplished by driving both the + and - sides of the relays from the high and low side outputs of the KRC2 in various combinations. 73, Don W3FPR On 10/15/2011 12:16 AM, Jack Brindle wrote: > In the meantime, please realize that the KRC2 does a great job with its > default band map. Also, there are ways to have a single antenna selected for > multiple outputs (such as 10, 15 and 20 meters selecting a triband antenna) > by wire-ORing the output pins together. > > __ Elecraft mailing list Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm Post: mailto:Elecraft@mailman.qth.net This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html
