Re: [Elecraft] K4 shipping

[stephen shearer]

Yes, I saw that and the " After that you will start to see the the order 
date that we are shipping change much more quickly. "  I am sure I can 
find another holiday (Fathers Day) between now and my shipping date.  I 
"need" matching monitors and a nice desk to go with the K4D and the PN50 
mini computer (holiday #4)...


73, steve WB3LGC

On 4/26/21 4:42 PM, Eric Garner wrote:

There was an update to the K4 product page yesterday that spelled this out
in more detail:

*K4 Update 4/25/2021*

We are working hard getting your K4's out the door and we have just
finished shipping our Group 1 orders from May 16th, which was 1 day before
the 2019 Dayton Hamvention opened. We are now shipping from the May 17th
group 1 orders.


We had a huge surge of orders on May 17th from both Dayton, on-line and
telephone orders. We expect it will take us approximately 4-6 weeks to ship
these orders. After that you will start to see the the order date that we
are shipping change much more quickly.


On Mon, Apr 26, 2021 at 1:24 PM stephen shearer 
wrote:


Bill,

Group one was still taking orders at the beginning of 2020 (January at
least).
I placed my group one order before Thanksgiving 2019.
I suspect (hope) most of the group one orders were placed during the
Hamvention ??
I upgraded my order from a K4 to a K4D before Easter 2020 (no problem -
still in Group One).
Note the HOLIDAY "gift" theme and the wife got an equal $$ (I asked if
she wanted a K4D also.  No she {KB3FMT/tech} didn't).

73, steve WB3LGC

On 4/26/21 3:50 PM, Bill Stravinsky via Elecraft wrote:

   Joe
There are 3 groups.  Group one has at least 2 days.  Group one day two

orders should be filled by mid May.  Do you know how many days arein group
one?  I know I don't, hi.  I don't even know what group I am in.

GL with your order.  I am not gonna get too excited about expected

shipping dates anymore.  I look forward to them telling us that group oneis
all shipped however long of a period of time that group is.

BillK3WJV

  On Friday, April 23, 2021, 3:15:40 PM EDT, Joseph Trombino, Jr <

w...@bellsouth.net> wrote:

   Howdy Gang.

Getting excited now that my K4 should be shipping in the next several

weeks.

After all, the Mother Ship said that the Group 1 orders will be filled

by the end of May (this May—grin).

And I'm in Group 1 sooo………I’ll believe it when I see it (grin).

Any K4’s shipped recently?

Take care and stay healthy.

CU on the bands, CW of course!

  73, Joe W2KJ
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Re: [Elecraft] K4 shipping

[Eric Garner]

There was an update to the K4 product page yesterday that spelled this out
in more detail:

*K4 Update 4/25/2021*

We are working hard getting your K4's out the door and we have just
finished shipping our Group 1 orders from May 16th, which was 1 day before
the 2019 Dayton Hamvention opened. We are now shipping from the May 17th
group 1 orders.


We had a huge surge of orders on May 17th from both Dayton, on-line and
telephone orders. We expect it will take us approximately 4-6 weeks to ship
these orders. After that you will start to see the the order date that we
are shipping change much more quickly.


On Mon, Apr 26, 2021 at 1:24 PM stephen shearer 
wrote:

> Bill,
>
> Group one was still taking orders at the beginning of 2020 (January at
> least).
> I placed my group one order before Thanksgiving 2019.
> I suspect (hope) most of the group one orders were placed during the
> Hamvention ??
> I upgraded my order from a K4 to a K4D before Easter 2020 (no problem -
> still in Group One).
> Note the HOLIDAY "gift" theme and the wife got an equal $$ (I asked if
> she wanted a K4D also.  No she {KB3FMT/tech} didn't).
>
> 73, steve WB3LGC
>
> On 4/26/21 3:50 PM, Bill Stravinsky via Elecraft wrote:
> >   Joe
> > There are 3 groups.  Group one has at least 2 days.  Group one day two
> orders should be filled by mid May.  Do you know how many days arein group
> one?  I know I don't, hi.  I don't even know what group I am in.
> > GL with your order.  I am not gonna get too excited about expected
> shipping dates anymore.  I look forward to them telling us that group oneis
> all shipped however long of a period of time that group is.
> >
> > BillK3WJV
> >
> >  On Friday, April 23, 2021, 3:15:40 PM EDT, Joseph Trombino, Jr <
> w...@bellsouth.net> wrote:
> >
> >   Howdy Gang.
> >
> > Getting excited now that my K4 should be shipping in the next several
> weeks.
> >
> > After all, the Mother Ship said that the Group 1 orders will be filled
> by the end of May (this May—grin).
> >
> > And I'm in Group 1 sooo………I’ll believe it when I see it (grin).
> >
> > Any K4’s shipped recently?
> >
> > Take care and stay healthy.
> >
> > CU on the bands, CW of course!
> >
> >  73, Joe W2KJ
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Re: [Elecraft] K4 shipping

[stephen shearer]

Bill,

Group one was still taking orders at the beginning of 2020 (January at 
least).

I placed my group one order before Thanksgiving 2019.
I suspect (hope) most of the group one orders were placed during the 
Hamvention ??
I upgraded my order from a K4 to a K4D before Easter 2020 (no problem - 
still in Group One).
Note the HOLIDAY "gift" theme and the wife got an equal $$ (I asked if 
she wanted a K4D also.  No she {KB3FMT/tech} didn't).


73, steve WB3LGC

On 4/26/21 3:50 PM, Bill Stravinsky via Elecraft wrote:

  Joe
There are 3 groups.  Group one has at least 2 days.  Group one day two orders 
should be filled by mid May.  Do you know how many days arein group one?  I 
know I don't, hi.  I don't even know what group I am in.
GL with your order.  I am not gonna get too excited about expected shipping 
dates anymore.  I look forward to them telling us that group oneis all shipped 
however long of a period of time that group is.

BillK3WJV

 On Friday, April 23, 2021, 3:15:40 PM EDT, Joseph Trombino, Jr 
 wrote:
  
  Howdy Gang.


Getting excited now that my K4 should be shipping in the next several weeks.

After all, the Mother Ship said that the Group 1 orders will be filled by the 
end of May (this May—grin).

And I'm in Group 1 sooo………I’ll believe it when I see it (grin).

Any K4’s shipped recently?

Take care and stay healthy.

CU on the bands, CW of course!

             73, Joe W2KJ
             I QRP, therefore I am
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Re: [Elecraft] K4 shipping

[Bill Stravinsky via Elecraft]

 Joe
There are 3 groups.  Group one has at least 2 days.  Group one day two orders 
should be filled by mid May.  Do you know how many days arein group one?  I 
know I don't, hi.  I don't even know what group I am in.
GL with your order.  I am not gonna get too excited about expected shipping 
dates anymore.  I look forward to them telling us that group oneis all shipped 
however long of a period of time that group is.

BillK3WJV

On Friday, April 23, 2021, 3:15:40 PM EDT, Joseph Trombino, Jr 
 wrote:  
 
 Howdy Gang.

Getting excited now that my K4 should be shipping in the next several weeks.

After all, the Mother Ship said that the Group 1 orders will be filled by the 
end of May (this May—grin).

And I'm in Group 1 sooo………I’ll believe it when I see it (grin).

Any K4’s shipped recently?

Take care and stay healthy.

CU on the bands, CW of course!

            73, Joe W2KJ
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Re: [Elecraft] K4 Shipping update?

[Macy monkeys]

That don't cut it with me. Share the good news brothers and sisters. Let's hear 
from new K4 owners! 

John K7FD

> On Mar 1, 2021, at 7:47 PM, Bill Frantz  wrote:
> 
> I know one person who has a production K4. He doesn't want his name 
> publicized because he doesn't want to be flooded with questions. I suspect 
> most of the other lucky ones feel the same way.
> 
> 73 Bill AE6JV
> 
>> On 3/1/21 at 4:27 PM, w...@bellsouth.net (Joseph Trombino, Jr) wrote:
>> 
>> Have I missed any K4 shipping updates or have there just not been any lately?
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Re: [Elecraft] K4 Shipping update?

[Bill Frantz]

I know one person who has a production K4. He doesn't want his 
name publicized because he doesn't want to be flooded with 
questions. I suspect most of the other lucky ones feel the same way.


73 Bill AE6JV

On 3/1/21 at 4:27 PM, w...@bellsouth.net (Joseph Trombino, Jr) wrote:


Have I missed any K4 shipping updates or have there just not been any lately?

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Re: [Elecraft] [K4] Shipping??

[Jim Brown]

On 9/11/2020 8:30 PM, Augie "Gus" Hansen wrote:
Have you been able to get home yet? What's the status of your home and 
antennas?


Got back a few days ago, only damage is to floor under refrigerator that 
had been without power for 3 wks. House, shack, antennas all fine. No 
power, water, or internet, so we're in a rental townhouse for a while.


73, Jim K9YC

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Re: [Elecraft] [K4] Shipping??

[Tony Estep]

On Tue, Sep 1, 2020 at 11:21 AM Wayne Burdick  wrote:

> ...This past few weeks has been very difficult for California and the Bay
> Area in particularforests all over the West vulnerable...We had
> employees evacuated due to fires burningair quality has been
> horrendous...

===
The situation in the areas near and around the fires in California is
dreadful, although apparently improving some in the past days. My
daughter-in-law is a grad student at UC Davis (long way from Watsonville,
but threatened by a different fire); her apartment complex was on
evacuation alert for two weeks. The air was so full of smoke that they
couldn't run the AC, with daytime temperatures of 104 degrees. And they
were relatively fortunate, because the eastern edge of the fire that was
threatening them eventually was controlled, and the fire moved northward.
The smoke from that fire reportedly streamed east as far as Indiana. There
are fires in spots all the way from Bakersfield to Mendocino, an area as
big as some states. Much of California is a huge patch of dry tinder, for
the reasons Wayne pointed out in his post, and any lighting strike, any
sparking power line, any cigarette butt can set off a blaze that threatens
life and property on a mass scale. Viewed in perspective, the delivery
schedule of the K4 is a minor issue compared to the widespread havoc that
these fires have engendered.

73,
Tony KT0NY
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Re: [Elecraft] K4 Shipping?

[Bill Johnson]

I was #12 for the KX3.  It was a field test.  They do more in house now rather 
for more technical engineering feedback, I would guess.

72 & 73,
Bill
K9YEQ
FT’er for K2, KX1, KX3, KXPA100,  KAT500, W2, etc. 

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I think they built 20-25 for Field Testors for the KX3. 

Sent from my iPhone
...nr4c. bill


> On Sep 2, 2020, at 8:22 AM, N4ZR  wrote:
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> Not to be a curmudgeon, but don't you suppose they built at least this many 
> for testers?
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Re: [Elecraft] K4 Shipping?

[Nr4c]

I think they built 20-25 for Field Testors for the KX3. 

Sent from my iPhone
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> On Sep 2, 2020, at 8:22 AM, N4ZR  wrote:
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> for testers?
> 
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Re: [Elecraft] [K4] Shipping??

[Martin Sole]

Thoughts with all you guys who have suffered losses. Truly terrible news.

I just saw on my twitter feed a post from Elecraft showing a picture of 
3 K4's on the bench going through testing. I guess next step will be out 
the door. Someone's getting lucky!


Martin, HS0ZED



On 2/9/63 07:59, Jim Brown wrote:

On 9/1/2020 9:11 AM, Wayne Burdick wrote:
In related news, one of our local field testers lost pretty much 
everything he owned, including his K4, due to one fire's 
unprecedented rampage through our coastal forests.


Many our neighbors lost everything, four hams that I know of, 
including Elecraft production engineer and major contester K6XX. More 
that 1200 structures were destroyed in our neighborhood alone, most 
were homes.


My wife and I are lucky -- we still have a home. Won't know until we 
get home (5-7 days) about the antenna farm.


73, Jim K9YC

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Re: [Elecraft] [K4] Shipping??

[Jim Brown]

On 9/1/2020 9:11 AM, Wayne Burdick wrote:

In related news, one of our local field testers lost pretty much everything he 
owned, including his K4, due to one fire's unprecedented rampage through our 
coastal forests.


Many our neighbors lost everything, four hams that I know of, including 
Elecraft production engineer and major contester K6XX. More that 1200 
structures were destroyed in our neighborhood alone, most were homes.


My wife and I are lucky -- we still have a home. Won't know until we get 
home (5-7 days) about the antenna farm.


73, Jim K9YC

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Re: [Elecraft] K4 shipping

[Don Wilhelm]

Joe,

You cannot get more official than what Wayne says.

73,
Don W3FPR

On 9/1/2020 5:11 PM, Joseph Trombino, Jr wrote:

Howdy Gang.

Just saw a note from Wayne (on another subject) indicating that a small number 
of K4’s will ship this week.

Has Elecraft officially said that K4 shipping is beginning this week?  If so, 
could some kind soul send me a copy of the email.


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Re: [Elecraft] [K4] Shipping??

[turnbull]

Ted, It is not all that simple, though Elecraft will do what they judge best.   
  Some of us in other parts of the world also put down deposits at an early 
date.    We in the EU can not take delivery until CE approval is obtained.   
Unless perhaps some take USA delivery and bring the radio back with us as part 
of luggage.    Of course flying is difficult these days.I am sure Elecraft will 
endeavour to be as even handed as they can be.   Meanwhile we wait 
anxiously.The world has taken a beating and California in particular.    There 
are Italian radio firms struggling to recover as well.We both or indeed all of 
us wish the good people in Elecraft the best.   They have done well to to get 
so close to shipping.    The Elecraft family all deserve a good Californian 
wine this weekend.73 Doug EI2CNSent from my Samsung Galaxy smartphone.
 Original message From: Ted Roycraft  
Date: 01/09/2020  18:17  (GMT+00:00) To: Wayne Burdick , 
Björn Ekelund  Cc: Elecraft Reflector 
 Subject: Re: [Elecraft] [K4] Shipping?? Wayne and 
Eric,I'm very sorry for all the problems you guys in California are having 
dealing with multiple problems beyond your control and it is completely 
understandable why the K4 has been delayed.  I'm sure that no one wants them 
shipping more than you do..Anyway, I am writing you to ask you if you could do 
something like you did when the K2 had many orders that you had to fill on a 
first come/first served basis.  Back then, every day you shipped, you posted 
the order date of the last K2 to go out the door that day. Could you do 
something similar with the K4?  In this case, initially for Group 1, publish 
the "deposit date" made by the buyer of the last K4 to go out the door that 
day.  I'm sure with the K2, that policy eliminated a lot of emails asking "how 
close am I to getting my K2".  And, contrary to the opinion of some of us, I 
think this policy would cut way down on the unnecessary emails coming to this 
mailing list asking "when am I getting my K4".Best regards,Ted Roycraft, W2ZKOn 
9/1/2020 12:47, Wayne Burdick wrote:> Hi Björn,>> The programmer's reference is 
mostly complete, but I still have to separate out internal vs. public commands. 
That was the plan, right up until the the fires :-/>> Are you already on our 
developer's list? We'll be posting the programmer's reference to this list as 
soon as it's ready.>> 73,> Wayne> N6KR>>>> On Sep 1, 2020, at 9:29 AM, Björn 
Ekelund  wrote:>>>> Hi Wayne,>>>> Since you are now shipping; 
When can we expect the K4 programmer's manual to be available for download?>>>> 
We want to make sure the DXLog (www.dxlog.net) contest logger supports K4 as 
soon as possible.>>>> I emailed you a few months ago but I guess that was too 
early.>>>> Björn SM7IUN>>>> Den tis 1 sep. 2020 kl 18:20 skrev Wayne Burdick 
:>> A small batch is in process to go out this week, and I'm 
sure Eric will post an update.>>>> So how about a weather report?>>>> This past 
few weeks has been very difficult for California and the Bay Area in 
particular. No one could have anticipated this at the beginning of the month 
(remember the Ham Expo?), since fire season is usually in October. But 
worst-case conditions have been brewing for some time. Thanks to drought and 
record temperatures everything has become tinder-dry (10 years ago we'd get a 
few winter days in the 30F range, now the lowest we ever see is 40F). Bark 
beetle larvae are no longer culled during winter, turning trees into an insect 
smörgåsbord. This has left forests all over the West vulnerable.>>>> We had 
employees evacuated due to fires burning in or near the factory, and many of us 
elsewhere were on official alert status, thinking about what to pack. During 
this time the air quality has been horrendous (AQI over 200 some days). This 
has temporarily upended our strategy of keeping all the doors open to provide 
safe working conditions in the midst of the ongoing pandemic (remember that?) 
meaning virtually everyone is working from home. My family had to buy N95 masks 
just to be able to run errands. We still need them about 50% of the time, 
though the firefighters are making progress.>>>> In related news, one of our 
local field testers lost pretty much everything he owned, including his K4, due 
to one fire's unprecedented rampage through our coastal forests.>>>> And still 
we persist.>>>> All I can say, in the humbling face of nature, is...QRX.>>>> 
73,>> Wayne>> N6KR>>>>>>>>> On Sep 1, 2020, at 4:29 AM, Nr4c 
 wrote:>>>>>> But well after closing for any of their 
regular shippers!>>>>>> Sent from my iPhone>&g

Re: [Elecraft] [K4] Shipping??

[Björn Ekelund]

I am so sorry to hear about your fires, as if covid19 was not a burden
enough.

I don't think I'm on any developer's list but would love to get on it if
possible.
I do most of the radio interface coding in the DXLog dev team.

We have a decent number of users and take pride in supporting
new radios. I'm particularly eager to implement SO2V for the K4
since I believe it will rock that mode. There are also some ideas about
waterfall control (zoom etc.) from the logger.

Björn SM7IUN

Den tis 1 sep. 2020 kl 18:47 skrev Wayne Burdick :

> Hi Björn,
>
> The programmer's reference is mostly complete, but I still have to
> separate out internal vs. public commands. That was the plan, right up
> until the the fires :-/
>
> Are you already on our developer's list? We'll be posting the programmer's
> reference to this list as soon as it's ready.
>
> 73,
> Wayne
> N6KR
>
>
> > On Sep 1, 2020, at 9:29 AM, Björn Ekelund  wrote:
> >
> > Hi Wayne,
> >
> > Since you are now shipping; When can we expect the K4 programmer's
> manual to be available for download?
> >
> > We want to make sure the DXLog (www.dxlog.net) contest logger supports
> K4 as soon as possible.
> >
> > I emailed you a few months ago but I guess that was too early.
> >
> > Björn SM7IUN
> >
> > Den tis 1 sep. 2020 kl 18:20 skrev Wayne Burdick :
> > A small batch is in process to go out this week, and I'm sure Eric will
> post an update.
> >
> > So how about a weather report?
> >
> > This past few weeks has been very difficult for California and the Bay
> Area in particular. No one could have anticipated this at the beginning of
> the month (remember the Ham Expo?), since fire season is usually in
> October. But worst-case conditions have been brewing for some time. Thanks
> to drought and record temperatures everything has become tinder-dry (10
> years ago we'd get a few winter days in the 30F range, now the lowest we
> ever see is 40F). Bark beetle larvae are no longer culled during winter,
> turning trees into an insect smörgåsbord. This has left forests all over
> the West vulnerable.
> >
> > We had employees evacuated due to fires burning in or near the factory,
> and many of us elsewhere were on official alert status, thinking about what
> to pack. During this time the air quality has been horrendous (AQI over 200
> some days). This has temporarily upended our strategy of keeping all the
> doors open to provide safe working conditions in the midst of the ongoing
> pandemic (remember that?) meaning virtually everyone is working from home.
> My family had to buy N95 masks just to be able to run errands. We still
> need them about 50% of the time, though the firefighters are making
> progress.
> >
> > In related news, one of our local field testers lost pretty much
> everything he owned, including his K4, due to one fire's unprecedented
> rampage through our coastal forests.
> >
> > And still we persist.
> >
> > All I can say, in the humbling face of nature, is...QRX.
> >
> > 73,
> > Wayne
> > N6KR
> >
> >
> >
> > > On Sep 1, 2020, at 4:29 AM, Nr4c  wrote:
> > >
> > > But well after closing for any of their regular shippers!
> > >
> > > Sent from my iPhone
> > > ...nr4c. bill
> > >
> > >
> > >> On Sep 1, 2020, at 12:55 AM, Macy monkeys 
> wrote:
> > >>
> > >> 
> > >> It's not midnight yet on the west coast :)
> > >>
> > >> John K7FD
> >
> >
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Re: [Elecraft] [K4] Shipping??

[Ted Roycraft]

Wayne and Eric,
I'm very sorry for all the problems you guys in California are having 
dealing with multiple problems beyond your control and it is completely 
understandable why the K4 has been delayed.  I'm sure that no one wants 
them shipping more than you do..


Anyway, I am writing you to ask you if you could do something like you 
did when the K2 had many orders that you had to fill on a first 
come/first served basis.  Back then, every day you shipped, you posted 
the order date of the last K2 to go out the door that day. Could you do 
something similar with the K4?  In this case, initially for Group 1, 
publish the "deposit date" made by the buyer of the last K4 to go out 
the door that day.  I'm sure with the K2, that policy eliminated a lot 
of emails asking "how close am I to getting my K2".  And, contrary to 
the opinion of some of us, I think this policy would cut way down on the 
unnecessary emails coming to this mailing list asking "when am I getting 
my K4".


Best regards,
Ted Roycraft, W2ZK

On 9/1/2020 12:47, Wayne Burdick wrote:

Hi Björn,

The programmer's reference is mostly complete, but I still have to separate out 
internal vs. public commands. That was the plan, right up until the the fires 
:-/

Are you already on our developer's list? We'll be posting the programmer's 
reference to this list as soon as it's ready.

73,
Wayne
N6KR



On Sep 1, 2020, at 9:29 AM, Björn Ekelund  wrote:

Hi Wayne,

Since you are now shipping; When can we expect the K4 programmer's manual to be 
available for download?

We want to make sure the DXLog (www.dxlog.net) contest logger supports K4 as 
soon as possible.

I emailed you a few months ago but I guess that was too early.

Björn SM7IUN

Den tis 1 sep. 2020 kl 18:20 skrev Wayne Burdick :
A small batch is in process to go out this week, and I'm sure Eric will post an 
update.

So how about a weather report?

This past few weeks has been very difficult for California and the Bay Area in 
particular. No one could have anticipated this at the beginning of the month 
(remember the Ham Expo?), since fire season is usually in October. But 
worst-case conditions have been brewing for some time. Thanks to drought and 
record temperatures everything has become tinder-dry (10 years ago we'd get a 
few winter days in the 30F range, now the lowest we ever see is 40F). Bark 
beetle larvae are no longer culled during winter, turning trees into an insect 
smörgåsbord. This has left forests all over the West vulnerable.

We had employees evacuated due to fires burning in or near the factory, and 
many of us elsewhere were on official alert status, thinking about what to 
pack. During this time the air quality has been horrendous (AQI over 200 some 
days). This has temporarily upended our strategy of keeping all the doors open 
to provide safe working conditions in the midst of the ongoing pandemic 
(remember that?) meaning virtually everyone is working from home. My family had 
to buy N95 masks just to be able to run errands. We still need them about 50% 
of the time, though the firefighters are making progress.

In related news, one of our local field testers lost pretty much everything he 
owned, including his K4, due to one fire's unprecedented rampage through our 
coastal forests.

And still we persist.

All I can say, in the humbling face of nature, is...QRX.

73,
Wayne
N6KR




On Sep 1, 2020, at 4:29 AM, Nr4c  wrote:

But well after closing for any of their regular shippers!

Sent from my iPhone
...nr4c. bill



On Sep 1, 2020, at 12:55 AM, Macy monkeys  wrote:


It's not midnight yet on the west coast :)

John K7FD



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Re: [Elecraft] [K4] Shipping??

[Wayne Burdick]

Hi Björn,

The programmer's reference is mostly complete, but I still have to separate out 
internal vs. public commands. That was the plan, right up until the the fires 
:-/

Are you already on our developer's list? We'll be posting the programmer's 
reference to this list as soon as it's ready.

73,
Wayne
N6KR


> On Sep 1, 2020, at 9:29 AM, Björn Ekelund  wrote:
> 
> Hi Wayne,
> 
> Since you are now shipping; When can we expect the K4 programmer's manual to 
> be available for download?
> 
> We want to make sure the DXLog (www.dxlog.net) contest logger supports K4 as 
> soon as possible. 
> 
> I emailed you a few months ago but I guess that was too early.
> 
> Björn SM7IUN
> 
> Den tis 1 sep. 2020 kl 18:20 skrev Wayne Burdick :
> A small batch is in process to go out this week, and I'm sure Eric will post 
> an update. 
> 
> So how about a weather report?
> 
> This past few weeks has been very difficult for California and the Bay Area 
> in particular. No one could have anticipated this at the beginning of the 
> month (remember the Ham Expo?), since fire season is usually in October. But 
> worst-case conditions have been brewing for some time. Thanks to drought and 
> record temperatures everything has become tinder-dry (10 years ago we'd get a 
> few winter days in the 30F range, now the lowest we ever see is 40F). Bark 
> beetle larvae are no longer culled during winter, turning trees into an 
> insect smörgåsbord. This has left forests all over the West vulnerable.
> 
> We had employees evacuated due to fires burning in or near the factory, and 
> many of us elsewhere were on official alert status, thinking about what to 
> pack. During this time the air quality has been horrendous (AQI over 200 some 
> days). This has temporarily upended our strategy of keeping all the doors 
> open to provide safe working conditions in the midst of the ongoing pandemic 
> (remember that?) meaning virtually everyone is working from home. My family 
> had to buy N95 masks just to be able to run errands. We still need them about 
> 50% of the time, though the firefighters are making progress.
> 
> In related news, one of our local field testers lost pretty much everything 
> he owned, including his K4, due to one fire's unprecedented rampage through 
> our coastal forests. 
> 
> And still we persist. 
> 
> All I can say, in the humbling face of nature, is...QRX.
> 
> 73,
> Wayne
> N6KR
> 
> 
> 
> > On Sep 1, 2020, at 4:29 AM, Nr4c  wrote:
> > 
> > But well after closing for any of their regular shippers!
> > 
> > Sent from my iPhone
> > ...nr4c. bill
> > 
> > 
> >> On Sep 1, 2020, at 12:55 AM, Macy monkeys  wrote:
> >> 
> >> 
> >> It's not midnight yet on the west coast :)
> >> 
> >> John K7FD
> 
> 
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Re: [Elecraft] [K4] Shipping??

[rich hurd WC3T]

Please stay safe.  The K4 is just parts.  You are irreplaceable.

On Tue, Sep 1, 2020 at 12:11 PM Wayne Burdick  wrote:

> A small batch is in process to go out this week, and I'm sure Eric will
> post an update.
>
> So how about a weather report?
>
> This past few weeks has been very difficult for California and the Bay
> Area in particular. No one could have anticipated this at the beginning of
> the month (remember the Ham Expo?), since fire season is usually in
> October. But worst-case conditions have been brewing for some time. Thanks
> to drought and record temperatures everything has become tinder-dry (10
> years ago we'd get a few winter days in the 30F range, now the lowest we
> ever see is 40F). Bark beetle larvae are no longer culled during winter,
> turning trees into an insect smörgåsbord. This has left forests all over
> the West vulnerable.
>
> We had employees evacuated due to fires burning in or near the factory,
> and many of us elsewhere were on official alert status, thinking about what
> to pack. During this time the air quality has been horrendous (AQI over 200
> some days). This has temporarily upended our strategy of keeping all the
> doors open to provide safe working conditions in the midst of the ongoing
> pandemic (remember that?) meaning virtually everyone is working from home.
> My family had to buy N95 masks just to be able to run errands. We still
> need them about 50% of the time, though the firefighters are making
> progress.
>
> In related news, one of our local field testers lost pretty much
> everything he owned, including his K4, due to one fire's unprecedented
> rampage through our coastal forests.
>
> And still we persist.
>
> All I can say, in the humbling face of nature, is...QRX.
>
> 73,
> Wayne
> N6KR
>
>
>
> > On Sep 1, 2020, at 4:29 AM, Nr4c  wrote:
> >
> > But well after closing for any of their regular shippers!
> >
> > Sent from my iPhone
> > ...nr4c. bill
> >
> >
> >> On Sep 1, 2020, at 12:55 AM, Macy monkeys 
> wrote:
> >>
> >> 
> >> It's not midnight yet on the west coast :)
> >>
> >> John K7FD
>
>
>
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Re: [Elecraft] [K4] Shipping??

[Björn Ekelund]

Hi Wayne,

Since you are now shipping; When can we expect the K4 programmer's manual
to be available for download?

We want to make sure the DXLog (www.dxlog.net) contest logger supports K4
as soon as possible.

I emailed you a few months ago but I guess that was too early.

Björn SM7IUN

Den tis 1 sep. 2020 kl 18:20 skrev Wayne Burdick :

> A small batch is in process to go out this week, and I'm sure Eric will
> post an update.
>
> So how about a weather report?
>
> This past few weeks has been very difficult for California and the Bay
> Area in particular. No one could have anticipated this at the beginning of
> the month (remember the Ham Expo?), since fire season is usually in
> October. But worst-case conditions have been brewing for some time. Thanks
> to drought and record temperatures everything has become tinder-dry (10
> years ago we'd get a few winter days in the 30F range, now the lowest we
> ever see is 40F). Bark beetle larvae are no longer culled during winter,
> turning trees into an insect smörgåsbord. This has left forests all over
> the West vulnerable.
>
> We had employees evacuated due to fires burning in or near the factory,
> and many of us elsewhere were on official alert status, thinking about what
> to pack. During this time the air quality has been horrendous (AQI over 200
> some days). This has temporarily upended our strategy of keeping all the
> doors open to provide safe working conditions in the midst of the ongoing
> pandemic (remember that?) meaning virtually everyone is working from home.
> My family had to buy N95 masks just to be able to run errands. We still
> need them about 50% of the time, though the firefighters are making
> progress.
>
> In related news, one of our local field testers lost pretty much
> everything he owned, including his K4, due to one fire's unprecedented
> rampage through our coastal forests.
>
> And still we persist.
>
> All I can say, in the humbling face of nature, is...QRX.
>
> 73,
> Wayne
> N6KR
>
>
>
> > On Sep 1, 2020, at 4:29 AM, Nr4c  wrote:
> >
> > But well after closing for any of their regular shippers!
> >
> > Sent from my iPhone
> > ...nr4c. bill
> >
> >
> >> On Sep 1, 2020, at 12:55 AM, Macy monkeys 
> wrote:
> >>
> >> 
> >> It's not midnight yet on the west coast :)
> >>
> >> John K7FD
>
>
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Re: [Elecraft] [K4] Shipping??

[Wayne Burdick]

A small batch is in process to go out this week, and I'm sure Eric will post an 
update. 

So how about a weather report?

This past few weeks has been very difficult for California and the Bay Area in 
particular. No one could have anticipated this at the beginning of the month 
(remember the Ham Expo?), since fire season is usually in October. But 
worst-case conditions have been brewing for some time. Thanks to drought and 
record temperatures everything has become tinder-dry (10 years ago we'd get a 
few winter days in the 30F range, now the lowest we ever see is 40F). Bark 
beetle larvae are no longer culled during winter, turning trees into an insect 
smörgåsbord. This has left forests all over the West vulnerable.

We had employees evacuated due to fires burning in or near the factory, and 
many of us elsewhere were on official alert status, thinking about what to 
pack. During this time the air quality has been horrendous (AQI over 200 some 
days). This has temporarily upended our strategy of keeping all the doors open 
to provide safe working conditions in the midst of the ongoing pandemic 
(remember that?) meaning virtually everyone is working from home. My family had 
to buy N95 masks just to be able to run errands. We still need them about 50% 
of the time, though the firefighters are making progress.

In related news, one of our local field testers lost pretty much everything he 
owned, including his K4, due to one fire's unprecedented rampage through our 
coastal forests. 

And still we persist. 

All I can say, in the humbling face of nature, is...QRX.

73,
Wayne
N6KR



> On Sep 1, 2020, at 4:29 AM, Nr4c  wrote:
> 
> But well after closing for any of their regular shippers!
> 
> Sent from my iPhone
> ...nr4c. bill
> 
> 
>> On Sep 1, 2020, at 12:55 AM, Macy monkeys  wrote:
>> 
>> 
>> It's not midnight yet on the west coast :)
>> 
>> John K7FD



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Re: [Elecraft] [K4] Shipping??

[Nr4c]

But well after closing for any of their regular shippers!

Sent from my iPhone
...nr4c. bill


> On Sep 1, 2020, at 12:55 AM, Macy monkeys  wrote:
> 
> 
> It's not midnight yet on the west coast :)
> 
> John K7FD
> 
>> On Aug 31, 2020, at 9:44 PM, Nr4c  wrote:
>> 
>> Sent from my iPhone
>> ...nr4c. bill
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Re: [Elecraft] [K4] Shipping??

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It's not midnight yet on the west coast :)

John K7FD

> On Aug 31, 2020, at 9:44 PM, Nr4c  wrote:
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Re: [Elecraft] K4 shipping info

[John Bohnovic]

I can filter all of the Elecraft groups so that all of the messages from 
the different groups appear in one folder. I don't do that because I 
want them in separate folders.


I support having a separate K4 group.

73..de John/K4WJ

On 8/29/2020 11:57 AM, Tom Azlin W7SUA wrote:
I like having all the Elecraft discussion on this reflector. I do not 
consider any of it as tying up this one.


Tom w7sua ( group 2 order for a K4, have the K-Line)

On 8/26/2020 7:34 PM, Nr4c wrote:
More likely this information will come from us as we announce the 
various stages of the delivery progress to the group on one of the 
reflectors, probably the K4 group so as not to tie up this one with a 
lot of traffic not of interest to the mass membership.


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Re: [Elecraft] K4 shipping info

[Tom Azlin W7SUA]

I like having all the Elecraft discussion on this reflector. I do not 
consider any of it as tying up this one.


Tom w7sua ( group 2 order for a K4, have the K-Line)

On 8/26/2020 7:34 PM, Nr4c wrote:

More likely this information will come from us as we announce the various 
stages of the delivery progress to the group on one of the reflectors, probably 
the K4 group so as not to tie up this one with a lot of traffic not of interest 
to the mass membership.

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Re: [Elecraft] K4 shipping info

[Nr4c]

No. They have no interest in doing this. 

Sent from my iPhone
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> On Aug 28, 2020, at 4:22 PM, Edward R Cole  wrote:
> 
> I'm not waiting as I did not order one, but...
> 
> Won't it be simpler for Elecraft to post this on a link from their website.  
> Those who want to know could access and management would be an addition for 
> the Elecraft webmaster to handle.
> 
> I have an extensive personal website and also manage a VHF club website (in 
> raw html code; no authoring sw).  No biggey!
> 
> 73, Ed - KL7UW
>  http://www.kl7uw.com
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Re: [Elecraft] K4 shipping info

[Edward R Cole]

I'm not waiting as I did not order one, but...

Won't it be simpler for Elecraft to post this on a link from their 
website.  Those who want to know could access and management would be 
an addition for the Elecraft webmaster to handle.


I have an extensive personal website and also manage a VHF club 
website (in raw html code; no authoring sw).  No biggey!


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Re: [Elecraft] K4 shipping info

[Paul Van Dyke]

Yes Alan

I am a member also, but I forgot also. I can't get wrapped up in a product
and go nuts, till it is on the bench.
And I was one of the early ones also, and all I am betting that was sold of
the K4 those 3 days was the "Full Meal Deal"

Paul  KB9AVO

On Fri, Aug 28, 2020 at 12:06 PM Alan - G4GNX  wrote:

> What's the problem Steve? November is when I created the group. It's at:
> https://groups.io/g/Elecraft-K4
>
> Ring any bells? ;-)
>
> 73,
>
> Alan. G4GNX
>
>
> -- Original Message --
> From: "stephen shearer" 
> To: elecraft@mailman.qth.net
> Sent: 28/08/2020 16:26:37
> Subject: Re: [Elecraft] K4 shipping info
>
> >OK, what is the group name? Elecraft-K4  ??
> >https://groups.io/g/Elecraft-K4 already exists, since (at least)
> November
> >
> >73, steve
> >
> >On 8/28/20 6:33 AM, Alan - G4GNX wrote:
> >>
> >>Someone on another group suggested that there should be a group setup
> specifically for the K4.
> >>
> >>I responded by doing just that. It is a group for enthusiasts by
> enthusiasts. No more, no less. I'm not looking for praise. It is what it
> is. ;-)
> >>
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Re: [Elecraft] K4 shipping info

[Alan - G4GNX]

What's the problem Steve? November is when I created the group. It's at: 
https://groups.io/g/Elecraft-K4


Ring any bells? ;-)

73,

Alan. G4GNX


-- Original Message --
From: "stephen shearer" 
To: elecraft@mailman.qth.net
Sent: 28/08/2020 16:26:37
Subject: Re: [Elecraft] K4 shipping info


OK, what is the group name? Elecraft-K4  ??
https://groups.io/g/Elecraft-K4 already exists, since (at least) November

73, steve

On 8/28/20 6:33 AM, Alan - G4GNX wrote:


Someone on another group suggested that there should be a group setup 
specifically for the K4.

I responded by doing just that. It is a group for enthusiasts by enthusiasts. 
No more, no less. I'm not looking for praise. It is what it is. ;-)



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Re: [Elecraft] K4 shipping info

[stephen shearer]

OK, what is the group name? Elecraft-K4  ??
https://groups.io/g/Elecraft-K4 already exists, since (at least) 
November


73, steve

On 8/28/20 6:33 AM, Alan - G4GNX wrote:


Someone on another group suggested that there should be a group setup 
specifically for the K4.


I responded by doing just that. It is a group for enthusiasts by 
enthusiasts. No more, no less. I'm not looking for praise. It is what it 
is. ;-)



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Re: [Elecraft] K4 shipping info

[turnbull]

Alan and friends please forgive me but I am a member of enough groups for 
different subjects.    I will stick to the Elecraft site and assume perhaps 
wrongly that Eric, Wayne and the gang will still support it.    I do have a K4 
on order and am commited.    There probably have been other forums for 
individual Elecraft products but I never visited them.    Everyone is entitled 
to make their own choices but for me this is the site for all K4 info.    I ask 
forgiveness for this stance.   It is just the gasp of an old geezer.   It is 
not my intent to offend but it seems better to say something now.Peace and 73 
Doug EI2CNSent from my Samsung Galaxy smartphone.
 Original message From: Alan - G4GNX  Date: 
28/08/2020  11:34  (GMT+00:00) To: Elecraft Reflector 
 Subject: Re: [Elecraft] K4 shipping info I tried to 
send this yesterday, but it went astray. :-(Straight from the horse's mouth, so 
that there will be no rumors or doubt:I have the K3S-line and am interested in 
the K4. I do not have an order placed yet. I'm waiting until the kit 
availability is announced.Someone on another group suggested that there should 
be a group setup specifically for the K4.I responded by doing just that. It is 
a group for enthusiasts by enthusiasts. No more, no less. I'm not looking for 
praise. It is what it is. ;-)I would ask new subscribers to be patient. As with 
most groups, your 1st message has to be approved, before you become 
unmoderated. There is a time difference of 5 - 8 hours between the USA and UK, 
so if you send your first  message whilst I'm asleep, it may be delayed. It's 
not personal. :-)The group has sporadic use, depending on information and 
questions on a daily basis. When a small announcement is made, there's usually 
a flurry of activity, which tails off until someone thinks of something else 
they want to discuss, or there's another announcement. Eric and Wayne monitor 
the group when they have time and they answer questions when they have answers. 
I think other Elecraft staff also keep a weather eye on it.I didn't setup the 
K4 group to take over from any Elecraft group, it's just to separate out K4 
traffic from any other Elecraft product, in response to a request from other 
prospective users.73,Alan. G4GNX>>-- Original Message -->From: "Nr4c" 
>To: "Skip Davis" >Cc: 
elecraft@mailman.qth.net>Sent: 28/08/2020 00:37:22>Subject: Re: [Elecraft] K4 
shipping info>>>I don’t think the groups.io group here was setup by Elecraft 
for FTs>>I think it was setup by users like you and me especially to discuss K4 
stuff.>>>>Sent from my iPhone>>...nr4c. bill>>>>>>>  On Aug 27, 2020, at 7:08 
PM, Skip Davis via Elecraft  wrote:>>>>>>  Grant to 
respond to your reference to not needing another group that is true in some 
respect except the K4 group was probably setup for field testers and Elecraft 
communications only. Being a field tester for the K2 there was a lot of post to 
help improve the product before it was sold to the masses. We were the ones 
that tried to uncover the PC board problems and other such things that were 
initially found. Plus when you design a product you need someone else to 
evaluate it and use it in ways that don’t follow the design operational flow 
diagram you intended.>>>  Opening it up to all that are interested would 
clutter it with way too much unproductive chatter. Case in point is the number 
of posts generated when ever the K4 is mentioned.>>>>>>>>>  Skip Davis, NC9O>>> 
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Re: [Elecraft] K4 shipping info

[Alan - G4GNX]

I tried to send this yesterday, but it went astray. :-(

Straight from the horse's mouth, so that there will be no rumors or 
doubt:


I have the K3S-line and am interested in the K4. I do not have an order 
placed yet. I'm waiting until the kit availability is announced.


Someone on another group suggested that there should be a group setup 
specifically for the K4.


I responded by doing just that. It is a group for enthusiasts by 
enthusiasts. No more, no less. I'm not looking for praise. It is what it 
is. ;-)


I would ask new subscribers to be patient. As with most groups, your 1st 
message has to be approved, before you become unmoderated. There is a 
time difference of 5 - 8 hours between the USA and UK, so if you send 
your first  message whilst I'm asleep, it may be delayed. It's not 
personal. :-)


The group has sporadic use, depending on information and questions on a 
daily basis. When a small announcement is made, there's usually a flurry 
of activity, which tails off until someone thinks of something else they 
want to discuss, or there's another announcement. Eric and Wayne monitor 
the group when they have time and they answer questions when they have 
answers. I think other Elecraft staff also keep a weather eye on it.


I didn't setup the K4 group to take over from any Elecraft group, it's 
just to separate out K4 traffic from any other Elecraft product, in 
response to a request from other prospective users.


73,

Alan. G4GNX


-- Original Message --
From: "Nr4c" 
To: "Skip Davis" 
Cc: elecraft@mailman.qth.net
Sent: 28/08/2020 00:37:22
Subject: Re: [Elecraft] K4 shipping info


I don’t think the groups.io group here was setup by Elecraft for FTs
I think it was setup by users like you and me especially to discuss K4 stuff.

Sent from my iPhone
...nr4c. bill



 On Aug 27, 2020, at 7:08 PM, Skip Davis via Elecraft 
 wrote:

 Grant to respond to your reference to not needing another group that is true 
in some respect except the K4 group was probably setup for field testers and 
Elecraft communications only. Being a field tester for the K2 there was a lot 
of post to help improve the product before it was sold to the masses. We were 
the ones that tried to uncover the PC board problems and other such things that 
were initially found. Plus when you design a product you need someone else to 
evaluate it and use it in ways that don’t follow the design operational flow 
diagram you intended.
 Opening it up to all that are interested would clutter it with way too much 
unproductive chatter. Case in point is the number of posts generated when ever 
the K4 is mentioned.


 Skip Davis, NC9O
 Sent from my iPad




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Re: [Elecraft] K4 shipping info

[Nr4c]

I don’t think the groups.io group here was setup by Elecraft for FTs  
I think it was setup by users like you and me especially to discuss K4 stuff. 

Sent from my iPhone
...nr4c. bill


> On Aug 27, 2020, at 7:08 PM, Skip Davis via Elecraft 
>  wrote:
> 
> Grant to respond to your reference to not needing another group that is true 
> in some respect except the K4 group was probably setup for field testers and 
> Elecraft communications only. Being a field tester for the K2 there was a lot 
> of post to help improve the product before it was sold to the masses. We were 
> the ones that tried to uncover the PC board problems and other such things 
> that were initially found. Plus when you design a product you need someone 
> else to evaluate it and use it in ways that don’t follow the design 
> operational flow diagram you intended.
> Opening it up to all that are interested would clutter it with way too much 
> unproductive chatter. Case in point is the number of posts generated when 
> ever the K4 is mentioned.
> 
> 
> Skip Davis, NC9O 
> Sent from my iPad
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Re: [Elecraft] K4 shipping info

[Skip Davis via Elecraft]

Grant to respond to your reference to not needing another group that is true in 
some respect except the K4 group was probably setup for field testers and 
Elecraft communications only. Being a field tester for the K2 there was a lot 
of post to help improve the product before it was sold to the masses. We were 
the ones that tried to uncover the PC board problems and other such things that 
were initially found. Plus when you design a product you need someone else to 
evaluate it and use it in ways that don’t follow the design operational flow 
diagram you intended.
Opening it up to all that are interested would clutter it with way too much 
unproductive chatter. Case in point is the number of posts generated when ever 
the K4 is mentioned.


Skip Davis, NC9O 
Sent from my iPad

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Re: [Elecraft] K4 shipping info

[Nr4c]

Yes. The Elecraft-K4 on Groups.io.  

And I would like to see posts of when you got notice of shipping, order date, 
delivery, and serial number. I think this could really clog up the regulars 
Ecraft reflector so suggested using the groups.io list.  

Sent from my iPhone
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> On Aug 26, 2020, at 11:16 PM, David F. Reed  wrote:
> 
> What is this K4 group you refer to? Those of us who have ordered? A 
> different email list? Inquiring minds would like to know…
> 
> 73 de W5SV - David F. Reed
> 
>> On Aug 26, 2020, at 21:34, Nr4c  wrote:
>> 
>> More likely this information will come from us as we announce the various 
>> stages of the delivery progress to the group on one of the reflectors, 
>> probably the K4 group so as not to tie up this one with a lot of traffic not 
>> of interest to the mass membership. 
>> 
>> Sent from my iPhone
>> ...nr4c. bill
>> 
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Re: [Elecraft] K4 shipping info

[David F. Reed]

Thanks guys!

73 de W5SV - David F. Reed

> On Aug 26, 2020, at 22:43, Michael Gillen via Elecraft 
>  wrote:
> 
> I did a quick search and found “elecraft...@groups.io”

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Re: [Elecraft] K4 shipping info

[Grant Youngman]

PS.  Frankly, there’s no real reason for yet another group dedicated to one 
radio.  Many (most?)  of the posts to that group are replicated here.  And will 
have a wider audience of interested people here.

Too many groups, too little time to read them all ….

Grant NQ5T

> On Aug 26, 2020, at 11:37 PM, Grant Youngman  wrote:
> 
> There’s a K4 group on groups.io. There’s nothing specific to those in 
> shipping group 1. 
> 
> Grant NQ5T
> 
> Sent from my iPhone
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[Michael Gillen via Elecraft]

I did a quick search and found “elecraft...@groups.io”


> On Aug 26, 2020, at 8:37 PM, Grant Youngman  wrote:
> 
> There’s a K4 group on groups.io. There’s nothing specific to those in 
> shipping group 1. 
> 
> Grant NQ5T
> 
> Sent from my iPhone
> 
>> On Aug 26, 2020, at 11:29 PM, Paul Van Dyke  wrote:
>> 
>> David, I'm just going to hazard a guess. I believe is those of us that are
>> in the 1st wave of the K4 orders.
>> 
>> Paul  KB9AVO
>> 
>>> On Wed, Aug 26, 2020, 11:18 PM David F. Reed  wrote:
>>> 
>>> What is this K4 group you refer to? Those of us who have ordered? A
>>> different email list? Inquiring minds would like to know…
>>> 
>>> 73 de W5SV - David F. Reed
>>> 
> On Aug 26, 2020, at 21:34, Nr4c  wrote:
 
 More likely this information will come from us as we announce the
>>> various stages of the delivery progress to the group on one of the
>>> reflectors, probably the K4 group so as not to tie up this one with a lot
>>> of traffic not of interest to the mass membership.
 
 Sent from my iPhone
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Re: [Elecraft] K4 shipping info

[Grant Youngman]

There’s a K4 group on groups.io. There’s nothing specific to those in shipping 
group 1. 

Grant NQ5T

Sent from my iPhone

> On Aug 26, 2020, at 11:29 PM, Paul Van Dyke  wrote:
> 
> David, I'm just going to hazard a guess. I believe is those of us that are
> in the 1st wave of the K4 orders.
> 
> Paul  KB9AVO
> 
>> On Wed, Aug 26, 2020, 11:18 PM David F. Reed  wrote:
>> 
>> What is this K4 group you refer to? Those of us who have ordered? A
>> different email list? Inquiring minds would like to know…
>> 
>> 73 de W5SV - David F. Reed
>> 
 On Aug 26, 2020, at 21:34, Nr4c  wrote:
>>> 
>>> More likely this information will come from us as we announce the
>> various stages of the delivery progress to the group on one of the
>> reflectors, probably the K4 group so as not to tie up this one with a lot
>> of traffic not of interest to the mass membership.
>>> 
>>> Sent from my iPhone
>>> ...nr4c. bill
>>> 
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Re: [Elecraft] K4 shipping info

[Paul Van Dyke]

David, I'm just going to hazard a guess. I believe is those of us that are
in the 1st wave of the K4 orders.

Paul  KB9AVO

On Wed, Aug 26, 2020, 11:18 PM David F. Reed  wrote:

> What is this K4 group you refer to? Those of us who have ordered? A
> different email list? Inquiring minds would like to know…
>
> 73 de W5SV - David F. Reed
>
> > On Aug 26, 2020, at 21:34, Nr4c  wrote:
> >
> > More likely this information will come from us as we announce the
> various stages of the delivery progress to the group on one of the
> reflectors, probably the K4 group so as not to tie up this one with a lot
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Re: [Elecraft] K4 shipping info

[David F. Reed]

What is this K4 group you refer to? Those of us who have ordered? A different 
email list? Inquiring minds would like to know…

73 de W5SV - David F. Reed

> On Aug 26, 2020, at 21:34, Nr4c  wrote:
> 
> More likely this information will come from us as we announce the various 
> stages of the delivery progress to the group on one of the reflectors, 
> probably the K4 group so as not to tie up this one with a lot of traffic not 
> of interest to the mass membership. 
> 
> Sent from my iPhone
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Re: [Elecraft] K4 shipping info

[Nr4c]

More likely this information will come from us as we announce the various 
stages of the delivery progress to the group on one of the reflectors, probably 
the K4 group so as not to tie up this one with a lot of traffic not of interest 
to the mass membership. 

Sent from my iPhone
...nr4c. bill


> On Aug 26, 2020, at 8:12 PM, Ted Roycraft  wrote:
> 
> 
> When they do start shipping it would be very interesting if they publicize 
> the date that the shipped orders were placed. 
> 
>> On Wed, Aug 26, 2020 at 7:19 PM Nr4c  wrote:
>> Not the END yet!
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> But close. 
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> Sent from my iPhone
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>> ...nr4c. bill
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> > On Aug 26, 2020, at 1:53 PM, Joseph Trombino, Jr  
>> > wrote:
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>> 
>> > Howdy Gang.
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>> 
>> > Any news about K4 shipping?
>> 
>> > 
>> 
>> > Last I saw the K4 was gonna start shipping at the end of August.
>> 
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Re: [Elecraft] K4 shipping info

[Ted Roycraft]

When they do start shipping it would be very interesting if they publicize
the date that the shipped orders were placed.

On Wed, Aug 26, 2020 at 7:19 PM Nr4c  wrote:

> Not the END yet!
>
>
>
> But close.
>
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> ...nr4c. bill
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> > On Aug 26, 2020, at 1:53 PM, Joseph Trombino, Jr 
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>
> >
>
> > Last I saw the K4 was gonna start shipping at the end of August.
>
> >
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Re: [Elecraft] K4 shipping info

[Don Wilhelm]

Joe,

That was the goal, but consider that the fires may have impacted the 
schedule.

Shipping one on the last day of the month meets the qualification.
Be patient until Eric updates us.

Stay safe, and if you are in the Western states, stay away from the fires.

73,
Don W3FPR

On 8/26/2020 1:51 PM, Joseph Trombino, Jr wrote:

Howdy Gang.

Any news about K4 shipping?

Last I saw the K4 was gonna start shipping at the end of August.

Take and stay healthy.

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Re: [Elecraft] K4 shipping info

[Nr4c]

Not the END yet!

But close. 

Sent from my iPhone
...nr4c. bill


> On Aug 26, 2020, at 1:53 PM, Joseph Trombino, Jr  wrote:
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> Howdy Gang.
> 
> Any news about K4 shipping?
> 
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> 
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Re: [Elecraft] K4 Shipping Delay

[Bill Frantz]

In the computer industry, we have a saying, "On time, Full 
featured, Debugged: Pick two." And the K4 is as much a computer 
as it is a radio.


I'm glad that most commenters go for slipping the on time part 
of the triad.


73 Bill AE6JV (Who's waiting for the kit)

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"Good, Fast, Cheap"** ... choose two.


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Re: [Elecraft] K4 Shipping Delay

[Kurt Pawlikowski]

"By definition, the number of bugs in a program is infinite."

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On 1/16/2020 2:19 PM, Gwen Patton wrote:

Murphy's Law of Cybernetic Entomology says: "There's always one more bug."
So "bug-free" is impossible.

Gwen, NG3P

On Thu, Jan 16, 2020 at 2:50 PM rich hurd WC3T  wrote:


In the computer programming world, it's "bug free, cheap, or on time."  :)


On Thu, Jan 16, 2020 at 2:25 PM Fred Jensen  wrote:


"Good, Fast, Cheap"** ... choose two.

73,
Fred ["Skip"] K6DGW
Sparks NV DM09dn
Washoe County

**Said to a Marine BG.  He chose Good & Cheap.  We declined to bid

On 1/15/2020 8:18 PM, Terry Brown wrote:

I am one of those far down the list in the first shipping group.  When

I

read the notice from Eric and Wayne, about the new shipment dates for the
K4,  I was reminded of a comment from my builder a year and a half ago

when

our new house was about 4 months behind schedule.

He said, we could have finished your house on time but it would have

been finished by subcontractors who don’t provide the quality we insist
on.  Besides, and this is the important part regarding the K4, he said,

“ I

know you are frustrated,  but the day you move in and can begin to enjoy
the quality of your home as long as you live here, the delay won’t mean
anything.”

He was absolutely right.   When I walk around my new home and look at

how well it’s made and the incredible quality of the finish work, the

delay

is meaningless.   We all who are anxiously awaiting the K4, will feel the
same way once it arrives at our homes.Besides, it will be a better

more

refined radio in May than it would have been if shipped now.

73,

Terry, N7TB


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Re: [Elecraft] K4 Shipping Delay

[stephen shearer]

One of the software projects I worked on...  The lead eng reported it 
will be done in two weeks, for about six weeks.  Then WE looked at 
what/how we were doing the job and took a different approach.  it WAS 
done in two weeks, but needed six weeks of data (micro code) entry.  An 
intern did the data entry.


I don't see (from what I read) the delay being a software/firmware 
issue, but a hardware supply issue.  AND, I would like to see the 
supplier getting the product right (no replacements needed).


I did get "the" K4 email today.

*73, steve WB3LGC*

I see "this" as an opportunity for the "Easter Bunny" to bring a K4 
upgrade from a K4 to a K4D...


On 1/16/20 3:19 PM, Gwen Patton wrote:

Murphy's Law of Cybernetic Entomology says: "There's always one more bug."
So "bug-free" is impossible.

Gwen, NG3P


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Re: [Elecraft] K4 Shipping Delay

[Walter Underwood]

One of the Python developers observed that when the test suite passes,
it doesn’t mean that Python is bug-free. It means that the test suite is
insufficient.

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> On Jan 16, 2020, at 12:19 PM, Gwen Patton  wrote:
> 
> Murphy's Law of Cybernetic Entomology says: "There's always one more bug."
> So "bug-free" is impossible.
> 
> Gwen, NG3P
> 
> On Thu, Jan 16, 2020 at 2:50 PM rich hurd WC3T  wrote:
> 
>> In the computer programming world, it's "bug free, cheap, or on time."  :)
>> 
>> 
>> On Thu, Jan 16, 2020 at 2:25 PM Fred Jensen  wrote:
>> 
>>> "Good, Fast, Cheap"** ... choose two.
>>> 
>>> 73,
>>> Fred ["Skip"] K6DGW
>>> Sparks NV DM09dn
>>> Washoe County
>>> 
>>> **Said to a Marine BG.  He chose Good & Cheap.  We declined to bid
>>> 
>>> On 1/15/2020 8:18 PM, Terry Brown wrote:
 I am one of those far down the list in the first shipping group.  When
>> I
>>> read the notice from Eric and Wayne, about the new shipment dates for the
>>> K4,  I was reminded of a comment from my builder a year and a half ago
>> when
>>> our new house was about 4 months behind schedule.
 
 He said, we could have finished your house on time but it would have
>>> been finished by subcontractors who don’t provide the quality we insist
>>> on.  Besides, and this is the important part regarding the K4, he said,
>> “ I
>>> know you are frustrated,  but the day you move in and can begin to enjoy
>>> the quality of your home as long as you live here, the delay won’t mean
>>> anything.”
 
 He was absolutely right.   When I walk around my new home and look at
>>> how well it’s made and the incredible quality of the finish work, the
>> delay
>>> is meaningless.   We all who are anxiously awaiting the K4, will feel the
>>> same way once it arrives at our homes.Besides, it will be a better
>> more
>>> refined radio in May than it would have been if shipped now.
 
 73,
 
 Terry, N7TB
 
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Re: [Elecraft] K4 Shipping Delay

[Gwen Patton]

Murphy's Law of Cybernetic Entomology says: "There's always one more bug."
So "bug-free" is impossible.

Gwen, NG3P

On Thu, Jan 16, 2020 at 2:50 PM rich hurd WC3T  wrote:

> In the computer programming world, it's "bug free, cheap, or on time."  :)
>
>
> On Thu, Jan 16, 2020 at 2:25 PM Fred Jensen  wrote:
>
> > "Good, Fast, Cheap"** ... choose two.
> >
> > 73,
> > Fred ["Skip"] K6DGW
> > Sparks NV DM09dn
> > Washoe County
> >
> > **Said to a Marine BG.  He chose Good & Cheap.  We declined to bid
> >
> > On 1/15/2020 8:18 PM, Terry Brown wrote:
> > > I am one of those far down the list in the first shipping group.  When
> I
> > read the notice from Eric and Wayne, about the new shipment dates for the
> > K4,  I was reminded of a comment from my builder a year and a half ago
> when
> > our new house was about 4 months behind schedule.
> > >
> > > He said, we could have finished your house on time but it would have
> > been finished by subcontractors who don’t provide the quality we insist
> > on.  Besides, and this is the important part regarding the K4, he said,
> “ I
> > know you are frustrated,  but the day you move in and can begin to enjoy
> > the quality of your home as long as you live here, the delay won’t mean
> > anything.”
> > >
> > > He was absolutely right.   When I walk around my new home and look at
> > how well it’s made and the incredible quality of the finish work, the
> delay
> > is meaningless.   We all who are anxiously awaiting the K4, will feel the
> > same way once it arrives at our homes.Besides, it will be a better
> more
> > refined radio in May than it would have been if shipped now.
> > >
> > > 73,
> > >
> > > Terry, N7TB
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Re: [Elecraft] K4 Shipping Delay

[rich hurd WC3T]

In the computer programming world, it's "bug free, cheap, or on time."  :)


On Thu, Jan 16, 2020 at 2:25 PM Fred Jensen  wrote:

> "Good, Fast, Cheap"** ... choose two.
>
> 73,
> Fred ["Skip"] K6DGW
> Sparks NV DM09dn
> Washoe County
>
> **Said to a Marine BG.  He chose Good & Cheap.  We declined to bid
>
> On 1/15/2020 8:18 PM, Terry Brown wrote:
> > I am one of those far down the list in the first shipping group.  When I
> read the notice from Eric and Wayne, about the new shipment dates for the
> K4,  I was reminded of a comment from my builder a year and a half ago when
> our new house was about 4 months behind schedule.
> >
> > He said, we could have finished your house on time but it would have
> been finished by subcontractors who don’t provide the quality we insist
> on.  Besides, and this is the important part regarding the K4, he said, “ I
> know you are frustrated,  but the day you move in and can begin to enjoy
> the quality of your home as long as you live here, the delay won’t mean
> anything.”
> >
> > He was absolutely right.   When I walk around my new home and look at
> how well it’s made and the incredible quality of the finish work, the delay
> is meaningless.   We all who are anxiously awaiting the K4, will feel the
> same way once it arrives at our homes.Besides, it will be a better more
> refined radio in May than it would have been if shipped now.
> >
> > 73,
> >
> > Terry, N7TB
> >
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Re: [Elecraft] K4 Shipping Delay

[Fred Jensen]

"Good, Fast, Cheap"** ... choose two.

73,
Fred ["Skip"] K6DGW
Sparks NV DM09dn
Washoe County

**Said to a Marine BG.  He chose Good & Cheap.  We declined to bid

On 1/15/2020 8:18 PM, Terry Brown wrote:

I am one of those far down the list in the first shipping group.  When I read 
the notice from Eric and Wayne, about the new shipment dates for the K4,  I was 
reminded of a comment from my builder a year and a half ago when our new house 
was about 4 months behind schedule.

He said, we could have finished your house on time but it would have been 
finished by subcontractors who don’t provide the quality we insist on.  
Besides, and this is the important part regarding the K4, he said, “ I know you 
are frustrated,  but the day you move in and can begin to enjoy the quality of 
your home as long as you live here, the delay won’t mean anything.”

He was absolutely right.   When I walk around my new home and look at how well 
it’s made and the incredible quality of the finish work, the delay is 
meaningless.   We all who are anxiously awaiting the K4, will feel the same way 
once it arrives at our homes.Besides, it will be a better more refined 
radio in May than it would have been if shipped now.

73,

Terry, N7TB



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