Re: Re: [Elecraft] OT: Portable Antenna for K2

2006-06-11 Thread william parker
>From: Geoffrey Mackenzie-Kennedy <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
>Date: Sun Jun 11 14:23:52 CDT 2006
>To: Elecraft Discussion List 
>Subject: Re: [Elecraft] OT: Portable Antenna for K2

Just a brief pitch on the commercial version. I had the idea of a pvc or hard 
plastic model that would be expandable whereas, it could be pulled out to fit 
snug in between any window sill application. It would also come in many colors, 
ie: red for brick builing, where it would be unseen. As there are many hams in 
apartment buildings with no balcony or cannot have a antenna, vertical type 
sticking out of the window, this seems like a great soloution. Guess I will 
wait and see.

Bill KA3IXF





>Bill KA3IXF wrote on Sunday, June 11, 2006 2:00 PM
>
>>Not sure if you can apply this to your application, but I designed the 
>>KA3IXF Apartment Antenna, which will be appearing in a upcoming QST Article 
>>within the next couple of months. The >folks at MFJ and B/W are also 
>>looking at it for possible commercial retail application. It is no more 
>>than one or two long cardboard tubes wrapped up in electrical tape. You 
>>then make or buy a >limited space 10 - 40m G5RV and place the feedline in 
>>the middle of the tube and then wrap the ends around the tube, leaving 
>>about a inch or so between each turn. It looks sort of like a slinky 
>> >antenna. Then you again wrap the whole thing in electrical tape. I have it 
>>sitting outside my apartment on the window sill. With my K2/100, I work DX 
>>on a regular basis, on 20m CW. If you >can get up to the top floor and 
>>place this on a window sill this works well with the K2.
>>
>> Good Luck,
>> Bill KA3IXF
>
>
>
>Hi Bill,
>
>When camping or during Field Day it should be possible to use two of your 
>gizmos to make a short boom yagi or phased array. My first 40m beam in VE2 
>land had 22ft lengths of bamboo on which the normal mode helices were 
>wound - worked like a charm once tuned.
>
>Good luck with the commercial folk.
>
>73,
>Geoff
>GM4ESD
>
>
>
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Re: Re: [Elecraft] OT: Portable Antenna for K2

2006-06-11 Thread william parker
>From: Geoffrey Mackenzie-Kennedy <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
>Date: Sun Jun 11 14:23:52 CDT 2006
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>Subject: Re: [Elecraft] OT: Portable Antenna for K2


OK on the bamboo, well that is interesting, I actually used 2 cardboard tubes 
from some Christmas wrapping paper, thats the secret, Hi ! The antenna cost me 
a wopping $20.00 when I was done. Just talked over to G4 and LZ last evening 
along with a WA6 from the east coast. I cant asked for any better considering 
the cost and my location.

Cheers
Bill KA3IXF




>Bill KA3IXF wrote on Sunday, June 11, 2006 2:00 PM
>
>>Not sure if you can apply this to your application, but I designed the 
>>KA3IXF Apartment Antenna, which will be appearing in a upcoming QST Article 
>>within the next couple of months. The >folks at MFJ and B/W are also 
>>looking at it for possible commercial retail application. It is no more 
>>than one or two long cardboard tubes wrapped up in electrical tape. You 
>>then make or buy a >limited space 10 - 40m G5RV and place the feedline in 
>>the middle of the tube and then wrap the ends around the tube, leaving 
>>about a inch or so between each turn. It looks sort of like a slinky 
>> >antenna. Then you again wrap the whole thing in electrical tape. I have it 
>>sitting outside my apartment on the window sill. With my K2/100, I work DX 
>>on a regular basis, on 20m CW. If you >can get up to the top floor and 
>>place this on a window sill this works well with the K2.
>>
>> Good Luck,
>> Bill KA3IXF
>
>
>
>Hi Bill,
>
>When camping or during Field Day it should be possible to use two of your 
>gizmos to make a short boom yagi or phased array. My first 40m beam in VE2 
>land had 22ft lengths of bamboo on which the normal mode helices were 
>wound - worked like a charm once tuned.
>
>Good luck with the commercial folk.
>
>73,
>Geoff
>GM4ESD
>
>
>
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Re: [Elecraft] OT: Portable Antenna for K2

2006-06-11 Thread Geoffrey Mackenzie-Kennedy

Bill KA3IXF wrote on Sunday, June 11, 2006 2:00 PM

Not sure if you can apply this to your application, but I designed the 
KA3IXF Apartment Antenna, which will be appearing in a upcoming QST Article 
within the next couple of months. The >folks at MFJ and B/W are also 
looking at it for possible commercial retail application. It is no more 
than one or two long cardboard tubes wrapped up in electrical tape. You 
then make or buy a >limited space 10 - 40m G5RV and place the feedline in 
the middle of the tube and then wrap the ends around the tube, leaving 
about a inch or so between each turn. It looks sort of like a slinky 
>antenna. Then you again wrap the whole thing in electrical tape. I have it 
sitting outside my apartment on the window sill. With my K2/100, I work DX 
on a regular basis, on 20m CW. If you >can get up to the top floor and 
place this on a window sill this works well with the K2.


Good Luck,
Bill KA3IXF




Hi Bill,

When camping or during Field Day it should be possible to use two of your 
gizmos to make a short boom yagi or phased array. My first 40m beam in VE2 
land had 22ft lengths of bamboo on which the normal mode helices were 
wound - worked like a charm once tuned.


Good luck with the commercial folk.

73,
Geoff
GM4ESD



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RE: [Elecraft] OT: Portable Antenna for K2

2006-06-11 Thread Don Wilhelm
Dave,

I use a 44 foot center fed antenna successfully on all bands.  It is good on
40 thru 10 and will do 80 meters in a pinch.  Mine is constructed of #22
teflon insulated wire, and I have twisted 2 25 foot lengths of the same wire
together to use as a parallel feedline.  I use a 1:1 balun at the end of the
feedline and then a short length of coax to the KAT2.  The entire package is
small and relatively lightweight.  I get my wire from Jim (N2GO) who
frequently has postings about wire availability on QRP-L

I deploy my antenna in a variety of ways - as a dipole if I have 2 supports,
as an inverted VEE if I have only one, or if the inverted VEE is not
practical, I support one end of the antenna up as high as I can get it and
operate it as a vertical with the other side of the antenna strung out
wherever I can get it as a counterpoise.  I usually carry along a 32 foot
telescoping pole that aids me with the various configurations.

I have not done any real comparison tests, nor have I made any EZNEC plots
with the various configurations, but I have fun and I make contacts.  I
figure any attempts to optimize anything would be nullified or compromised
in some way depending on the environment I find I have to deploy the
antenna, so I just use it and go on with life.  I save the optimization for
the permanent home station antennas where I have control over many more
parameters.

73,
Don W3FPR


> -Original Message-
>
> I'm looking to take my K2 (10 watt) on holidays where we will be
> staying at
> a 3-story lodge high atop a bluff overlooking the ocean.  The lodge is
> surrounded on 3 sides by some tall trees. The roof of the lodge
> has a table
> that I can operate from. I haven't seen the location first-hand, but I
> assume I can throw some wire from the roof into the trees.  I
> have a 1 to 1
> balun available and some lengths of "disposable" wire (about 50 - 75 ft)
> that I can devote to the project.  My K2 has the KAT2 ATU built
> in.  I don't
> want to spend any money on this, so a commercial antenna system is out.
>
> Any ideas on the best configuration to use? Should it be a simple
> long wire?
> Should I use the balun between the radio and the antenna?  What about a
> ground system?
>
> Thanks
>
> Dave White
> [EMAIL PROTECTED]
>

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Re: [Elecraft] OT: Portable Antenna for K2

2006-06-11 Thread william parker
>From: Dave White <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
>Date: Sun Jun 11 07:30:54 CDT 2006
>To: Elecraft Reflector 
>Subject: [Elecraft] OT: Portable Antenna for K2


Hi Dave,
Not sure if you can apply this to your application, but I designed the KA3IXF 
Apartment Antenna, which will be appearing in a upcoming QST Article within the 
next couple of months. The folks at MFJ and B/W are also looking at it for 
possible commercial retail application. It is no more than one or two long 
cardboard tubes wrapped up in electrical tape. You then make or buy a limited 
space 10 - 40m G5RV and place the feedline in the middle of the tube and then 
wrap the ends around the tube, leaving about a inch or so between each turn. It 
looks sort of like a slinky antenna. Then you again wrap the whole thing in 
electrical tape. I have it sitting outside my apartment on the window sill. 
With my K2/100, I work DX on a regular basis, on 20m CW. If you can get up to 
the top floor and place this on a window sill this works well with the K2.

Good Luck,
Bill KA3IXF




>I'm looking to take my K2 (10 watt) on holidays where we will be staying at 
>a 3-story lodge high atop a bluff overlooking the ocean.  The lodge is 
>surrounded on 3 sides by some tall trees. The roof of the lodge has a table 
>that I can operate from. I haven't seen the location first-hand, but I 
>assume I can throw some wire from the roof into the trees.  I have a 1 to 1 
>balun available and some lengths of "disposable" wire (about 50 - 75 ft) 
>that I can devote to the project.  My K2 has the KAT2 ATU built in.  I don't 
>want to spend any money on this, so a commercial antenna system is out.
>
>Any ideas on the best configuration to use? Should it be a simple long wire? 
>Should I use the balun between the radio and the antenna?  What about a 
>ground system?
>
>Thanks
>
>Dave White
>[EMAIL PROTECTED] 
>
>
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