Re: [Elecraft] RE:MARS

2007-05-11 Thread FISCHER,GREG

Hi Lee,

This is from the FAQ page.  I don't think you will have 
anything to worry about.


Will the K3 operate on MARS frequencies?

The K3 may be operated outside the Amateur bands, but this 
capability is prevented by firmware. We have not yet 
worked out the mechanism, but we fully intend to support 
such operation, along with the Alaska Emergency frequency 
at 5.175 MHz.


General coverage receive filters can be added to the main 
receiver and/or the subreceiver. This is the KBP3 option. 
The rig automatically selects the narrow ham-band filters 
when you're in the ham bands, and the wider filters when 
you're in-between ham bands. This option has no effect on 
ham-band performance and is extremely easy to install.



Thanks and 73
Greg
AB7R


On Fri, 11 May 2007 11:36:13 -0500
  [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:



I sure hope Elecraft allows thier K-3 to operate on MARS 
frequencies. 
Without this capability, I won't/can't  consider owning 
a K-3.  I am the
Air Force Region 4 MARS Director and none of the 250 
members in my region

could use Elecraft without this capability.

Lee Bahr
w0vt (AFF4C)

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Re: [Elecraft] RE:MARS

2007-05-11 Thread Thom LaCosta

On Fri, 11 May 2007,  wrote:




I sure hope Elecraft allows thier K-3 to operate on MARS frequencies.
Without this capability, I won't/can't  consider owning a K-3.  I am the
Air Force Region 4 MARS Director and none of the 250 members in my region
could use Elecraft without this capability.


I remember trying to find out what frequencies the various MARS programs used in 
order to determine if I could use the K2 to checkit.  My emails explained why I 
was asking.


Army Mars never answered

AirForce Mars told me they couldn't give me the frequencies due to security,
but impressed on me that in order to join I had to have equipment that would
operate on their frequencies.

Navy MARS not only wouldn't give me the information, but told me I needed a 
modern radio, not some kit, since they did a lot of digital.


It's hard to know if the radio you purchase will operate on the secret 
frequencies that you can't learn cause you're not a member and you can't join 
cause you don't know if your rig will operate where no one can tell you it 
should.


I'm from the Gubmint, and I'm here to help you.

73,Thom-k3hrn
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Re: [Elecraft] RE:MARS

2007-05-11 Thread FISCHER,GREG

Found this in google...

Typical MARS Frequencies, take a listen.
- MARS Member stations meet periodically in scheduled 
networks on military frequencies outside of the amateur 
bands. There are various types of networks and each 
accomplishes a specific goal. For example, Administrative 
Networks to take care of much of the day-to-day management 
of the program. Traffic Networks which exist solely to 
pass third-party traffic, and of course, Emergency 
Networks which are established to provide communication 
needs during periods of emergency. There are also 
Technical Nets and Training Nets.
- MARS nets operate in different modes. Many MARS nets 
meet between 4000 - 4050 Khz and 7300 - 7400 Khz. 
Generally network stations meet during the local 
mid-to-late-afternoon and/or early evening hours. You can 
identify NAVMARCORMARS Stations by their NNNØ prefix. 
Army MARS stations are identified by their AA (Alpha 
Alpha) prefixes, while Air Force MARS stations have the 
unique AF (Alpha Foxtrot) prefix.


Thank you for stopping by. We look forward to hearing from 
you.


Sincerely yours,
Bo G. Lindfors, NNNØASA
Chief, Navy-Marine Corps MARS



Not very specificbut get's you in the ballpark.

73
Greg
AB7R



On Fri, 11 May 2007 12:59:05 -0400 (EDT)
 Thom LaCosta [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

On Fri, 11 May 2007,  wrote:




I sure hope Elecraft allows thier K-3 to operate on MARS 
frequencies.
Without this capability, I won't/can't  consider owning 
a K-3.  I am the
Air Force Region 4 MARS Director and none of the 250 
members in my region

could use Elecraft without this capability.


I remember trying to find out what frequencies the 
various MARS programs used in order to determine if I 
could use the K2 to checkit.  My emails explained why I 
was asking.


Army Mars never answered

AirForce Mars told me they couldn't give me the 
frequencies due to security,
but impressed on me that in order to join I had to have 
equipment that would

operate on their frequencies.

Navy MARS not only wouldn't give me the information, but 
told me I needed a modern radio, not some kit, since they 
did a lot of digital.


It's hard to know if the radio you purchase will operate 
on the secret frequencies that you can't learn cause 
you're not a member and you can't join cause you don't 
know if your rig will operate where no one can tell you 
it should.


I'm from the Gubmint, and I'm here to help you.

73,Thom-k3hrn
www.zerobeat.net Home of QRP Web Ring, Drakelist home 
page,Drake Web Ring,
QRP IRC channel, Drake IRC Channel, Elecraft Owners 
Database
www.tlchost.net/hosting/  ***  Web Hosting as low as 
3.49/month

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Re: [Elecraft] RE:MARS

2007-05-11 Thread W2AGN

[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:


I sure hope Elecraft allows thier K-3 to operate on MARS frequencies. 
Without this capability, I won't/can't  consider owning a K-3.  I am the

Air Force Region 4 MARS Director and none of the 250 members in my region
could use Elecraft without this capability.

Lee Bahr
w0vt (AFF4C)



I feel the same. My K2 hits the ~4 Mhz freqs just fine. I have checked into nets 
running just 10W with the K2. Would be nice if the K3 would hit some of the 
oddball frequencies in the 2-3 Mhz range.


John W2AGN/NNN0FBB
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RE: [Elecraft] RE:MARS

2007-05-11 Thread Dan Barker
My very first Field Day was using the call AA4U for the CW tent. (Omni C,
upside down Bencher for the southpaw, etc.). Interesting. I wonder what else
in a call makes it MARS vs Southeast Amateur Extra?

Dan / WG4S

snip
You can
identify NAVMARCORMARS Stations by their NNNØ prefix.
Army MARS stations are identified by their AA (Alpha
Alpha) prefixes, while Air Force MARS stations have the
unique AF (Alpha Foxtrot) prefix.
/snip

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RE: [Elecraft] RE:MARS

2007-05-11 Thread Doug Smith
On Fri, 2007-05-11 at 13:36 -0400, Dan Barker wrote:
 My very first Field Day was using the call AA4U for the CW tent. (Omni C,
 upside down Bencher for the southpaw, etc.). Interesting. I wonder what else
 in a call makes it MARS vs Southeast Amateur Extra?

Actually, I think the ARMY MARS callsign prefix is AAR then a number and
then a suffix.  So, chances are no one mistook your field day operation
for a mil station.  Especially not with the upside down bencher!

Regarding Thoms earlier question, most military comm planners *assume*
your equipment can operate on any frequency between 1.6 (maybe 2.0) and
30 MHz.  The equipment they are familiar with does exactly that.  They
don't think in terms of bands of frequencies but, rather, a multitude of
discrete channels within the HF spectrum.  Many of them are probably not
even aware there is equipment that isn't completely frequency agile.

73,
-Doug, W7KF


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Re: [Elecraft] RE:MARS

2007-05-11 Thread Jozef Hand-Boniakowski

Indeed they did.  My Navy MARS callsign used to be N0HNG.

Jozef
WB2MIc

Bob Nielsen wrote:


The MARS callsigns have changed a bit over the years.  At one time 
they used prefixes which are now allocated to amateur radio.


Bob, N7XY
ex- AF6SWE - Air Force Mars (~1954), N0KHM - Navy Mars (~1968)
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Re: [Elecraft] RE:MARS

2007-05-11 Thread Doug Person

Interesting to see some old Navy Mars call signs.  Been a long time...

Doug - K0DXV - Ex-Navy Mars N0EOC

Bob Nielsen wrote:


The MARS callsigns have changed a bit over the years.  At one time 
they used prefixes which are now allocated to amateur radio.


Bob, N7XY
ex- AF6SWE - Air Force Mars (~1954), N0KHM - Navy Mars (~1968)
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