Re: [Elecraft] Setting the audio level for use in soundcard data modes.

2017-09-13 Thread Nr4c 
Well sure. It doesn't have a Line In option. There is only a Mic in. 

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...nr4c. bill


> On Sep 13, 2017, at 8:34 AM, Don Wilhelm  wrote:
> 
> The MIC SEL is available in the K3/K3S, but not in the KX2/3.
> 
> 73,
> Don W3FPR
> 
>> On 9/13/2017 7:29 AM, rich hurd WC3T wrote:
>> Don,
>> 
>> Is this a KX3 menu?   I don't see a MIC SEL option.  I might have to wipe 
>> the egg off my face.  :)
>> 
> 

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Re: [Elecraft] Setting the audio level for use in soundcard data modes.

2017-09-13 Thread Don Wilhelm 

The MIC SEL is available in the K3/K3S, but not in the KX2/3.

73,
Don W3FPR

On 9/13/2017 7:29 AM, rich hurd WC3T wrote:

Don,

Is this a KX3 menu?   I don't see a MIC SEL option.  I might have to 
wipe the egg off my face.  :)




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Re: [Elecraft] Setting the audio level for use in soundcard data modes.

2017-09-13 Thread rich hurd WC3T 
Don,

Is this a KX3 menu?   I don't see a MIC SEL option.  I might have to wipe
the egg off my face.  :)

On Wed, Sep 13, 2017 at 07:16 Don Wilhelm  wrote:

> Bill,
>
> The choice of input in DATA A mode is "sticky".
> You choose the input with the MIC SEL menu, and it stays that way until
> you change it.
> So yes, once you select LINE IN, switching is automatic after that.
>
> 73,
> Don W3FPR
>
> On 9/12/2017 11:44 PM, Nr4c wrote:
> > Don
> > Does DATA A also set audio in to Line In?
> >
> > This makes switching modes seamless. No changes to make.
> >
> > Sent from my iPhone
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> >
> >
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Re: [Elecraft] Setting the audio level for use in soundcard data modes.

2017-09-13 Thread rich hurd WC3T 
I don't see how it could.  It controls the Elecraft interface and
hardware.  It doesn't talk back to the computer.


On Tue, Sep 12, 2017 at 23:44 Nr4c  wrote:

> Don
> Does DATA A also set audio in to Line In?
>
> This makes switching modes seamless. No changes to make.
>
> Sent from my iPhone
> ...nr4c. bill
>
>
> > On Sep 12, 2017, at 9:15 PM, Don Wilhelm  wrote:
> >
> > Tom,
> >
> > Using DATA A is the same as using USB *except* compression is set to
> zero and TX EQ is set to flat automatically.
> >
> > So yes, USB may work OK, but you have a lot more flexibility with other
> modes when using DATA A.
> >
> > That allows you to set whatever you want for SSB and not have to change
> it when you want to operate digital - which should not use compression nor
> equalization to minimize distortion in the transmitted signal.
> >
> > 73,
> > Don W3FPR
> >
> >> On 9/12/2017 8:58 PM, Tommy wrote:
> >>   Don,
> >> Why DATA A mode and not USB? I've been doing FT8 using USB and it
> works fine. It seems.
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Re: [Elecraft] Setting the audio level for use in soundcard data modes.

2017-09-13 Thread Don Wilhelm 

Bill,

The choice of input in DATA A mode is "sticky".
You choose the input with the MIC SEL menu, and it stays that way until 
you change it.

So yes, once you select LINE IN, switching is automatic after that.

73,
Don W3FPR

On 9/12/2017 11:44 PM, Nr4c wrote:

Don
Does DATA A also set audio in to Line In?

This makes switching modes seamless. No changes to make.

Sent from my iPhone
...nr4c. bill




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Re: [Elecraft] Setting the audio level for use in soundcard data modes.

2017-09-12 Thread Nr4c 
Don
Does DATA A also set audio in to Line In?  

This makes switching modes seamless. No changes to make. 

Sent from my iPhone
...nr4c. bill


> On Sep 12, 2017, at 9:15 PM, Don Wilhelm  wrote:
> 
> Tom,
> 
> Using DATA A is the same as using USB *except* compression is set to zero and 
> TX EQ is set to flat automatically.
> 
> So yes, USB may work OK, but you have a lot more flexibility with other modes 
> when using DATA A.
> 
> That allows you to set whatever you want for SSB and not have to change it 
> when you want to operate digital - which should not use compression nor 
> equalization to minimize distortion in the transmitted signal.
> 
> 73,
> Don W3FPR
> 
>> On 9/12/2017 8:58 PM, Tommy wrote:
>>   Don,
>> Why DATA A mode and not USB? I've been doing FT8 using USB and it works 
>> fine. It seems.
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Re: [Elecraft] Setting the audio level for use in soundcard data modes.

2017-09-12 Thread rich hurd WC3T 
Using DATA A will disable many of the audio processing, such as  the MIC
gain, RX/TX equalization, and audio compression functions.   These are
needed to help in between-the-ears processing but sometimes are
counterproductive in DATA modes.

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On Tue, Sep 12, 2017 at 8:58 PM, Tommy  wrote:

>   Don,
>
> Why DATA A mode and not USB? I've been doing FT8 using USB and it
> works fine. It seems.
>
> Tom - KB2SMS
>
> KX2 #01927
>
>
> On 09/12/2017 01:47 PM, Don Wilhelm wrote:
>
>> I have updated my website www.w3fpr.com with a document dealing with
>> using Elecraft transceivers for soundcard data modes.
>> Scroll down to the bottom of the left column and click on the link to the
>> page.
>>
>> This document has been reviewed by Wayne and Lyle (perhaps others) at
>> Elecraft and approved.
>>
>> As pointed out, Elecraft transceivers behave differently than other
>> amateur transceivers, so the setup procedure is different than the common
>> internet advice.
>>
>> 73,
>> Don W3FPR
>>
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Re: [Elecraft] Setting the audio level for use in soundcard data modes.

2017-09-12 Thread Joe Subich, W4TV 


> Using DATA A is the same as using USB *except* compression is set to
> zero and TX EQ is set to flat automatically.

*AND* RX EQ is set to flat - again to minimize distortion on RECEIVE.

73,

   ... Joe, W4TV


On 9/12/2017 9:15 PM, Don Wilhelm wrote:

Tom,

Using DATA A is the same as using USB *except* compression is set to 
zero and TX EQ is set to flat automatically.


So yes, USB may work OK, but you have a lot more flexibility with other 
modes when using DATA A.


That allows you to set whatever you want for SSB and not have to change 
it when you want to operate digital - which should not use compression 
nor equalization to minimize distortion in the transmitted signal.


73,
Don W3FPR

On 9/12/2017 8:58 PM, Tommy wrote:

   Don,

 Why DATA A mode and not USB? I've been doing FT8 using USB and it 
works fine. It seems.



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Re: [Elecraft] Setting the audio level for use in soundcard data modes.

2017-09-12 Thread Jim Miller 
DATA A also avoids something I hear too often which is an open Mic while
doing data modes.

jim ab3cv

On Tue, Sep 12, 2017 at 9:15 PM, Don Wilhelm  wrote:

> Tom,
>
> Using DATA A is the same as using USB *except* compression is set to zero
> and TX EQ is set to flat automatically.
>
> So yes, USB may work OK, but you have a lot more flexibility with other
> modes when using DATA A.
>
> That allows you to set whatever you want for SSB and not have to change it
> when you want to operate digital - which should not use compression nor
> equalization to minimize distortion in the transmitted signal.
>
> 73,
> Don W3FPR
>
> On 9/12/2017 8:58 PM, Tommy wrote:
>
>>Don,
>>
>>  Why DATA A mode and not USB? I've been doing FT8 using USB and it
>> works fine. It seems.
>>
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Re: [Elecraft] Setting the audio level for use in soundcard data modes.

2017-09-12 Thread Don Wilhelm 

Tom,

Using DATA A is the same as using USB *except* compression is set to 
zero and TX EQ is set to flat automatically.


So yes, USB may work OK, but you have a lot more flexibility with other 
modes when using DATA A.


That allows you to set whatever you want for SSB and not have to change 
it when you want to operate digital - which should not use compression 
nor equalization to minimize distortion in the transmitted signal.


73,
Don W3FPR

On 9/12/2017 8:58 PM, Tommy wrote:

   Don,

     Why DATA A mode and not USB? I've been doing FT8 using USB and it 
works fine. It seems.



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Re: [Elecraft] Setting the audio level for use in soundcard data modes.

2017-09-12 Thread Tommy 

  Don,

Why DATA A mode and not USB? I've been doing FT8 using USB and it 
works fine. It seems.


Tom - KB2SMS

KX2 #01927


On 09/12/2017 01:47 PM, Don Wilhelm wrote:
I have updated my website www.w3fpr.com with a document dealing with 
using Elecraft transceivers for soundcard data modes.
Scroll down to the bottom of the left column and click on the link to 
the page.


This document has been reviewed by Wayne and Lyle (perhaps others) at 
Elecraft and approved.


As pointed out, Elecraft transceivers behave differently than other 
amateur transceivers, so the setup procedure is different than the 
common internet advice.


73,
Don W3FPR

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Re: [Elecraft] Setting the audio level for use in soundcard data modes.

2017-09-12 Thread Bob McGraw K4TAX 
I agree with Don.  It appears that many seem to make a simple solution much to 
complex.  Stop and think about the elements or points that control audio 
levels.  And don't forget, if you use the computer for other sound card 
applications, it may change levels.  It may be necessary to make notes as to 
values or settings until you feel comfortable with each application.  

Here to assist. 

Bob, K4TAX


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> On Sep 12, 2017, at 2:59 PM, Don Wilhelm  wrote:
> 
> Bill,
> 
> My fingers were getting raw from repeating that info last week.  I hope it 
> helps several who are having problems.
> 
> 73,
> Don W3FPR
> 
>> On 9/12/2017 3:12 PM, Nr4c wrote:
>> Thanks, Don.
>> 
>> I have followed these instructions for years and data modes are not 
>> difficult.
>> 
>> My biggest issue has been with software and not realizing how many little 
>> check boxes and other items in varied locations can affect the pleasure or 
>> distaste for digital applications. Such as using RTTY and every time I try 
>> to run the software resets my mode to FSK and I'm using a sound card!  Oh 
>> yeah, there is a option for that somewhere in the program, just need to find 
>> it.
>> 
>> Anyway. Good on you for adding this to your website.
>> 
>> Sent from my iPhone
>> ...nr4c. bill
>> 
>> 
>>> On Sep 12, 2017, at 1:47 PM, Don Wilhelm  wrote:
>>> 
>>> I have updated my website www.w3fpr.com with a document dealing with using 
>>> Elecraft transceivers for soundcard data modes.
>>> Scroll down to the bottom of the left column and click on the link to the 
>>> page.
>>> 
>>> This document has been reviewed by Wayne and Lyle (perhaps others) at 
>>> Elecraft and approved.
>>> 
>>> As pointed out, Elecraft transceivers behave differently than other amateur 
>>> transceivers, so the setup procedure is different than the common internet 
>>> advice.
>>> 
>>> 73,
>>> Don W3FPR
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Re: [Elecraft] Setting the audio level for use in soundcard data modes.

2017-09-12 Thread Don Wilhelm 

Bill,

My fingers were getting raw from repeating that info last week.  I hope 
it helps several who are having problems.


73,
Don W3FPR

On 9/12/2017 3:12 PM, Nr4c wrote:

Thanks, Don.

I have followed these instructions for years and data modes are not difficult.

My biggest issue has been with software and not realizing how many little check 
boxes and other items in varied locations can affect the pleasure or distaste 
for digital applications. Such as using RTTY and every time I try to run the 
software resets my mode to FSK and I'm using a sound card!  Oh yeah, there is a 
option for that somewhere in the program, just need to find it.

Anyway. Good on you for adding this to your website.

Sent from my iPhone
...nr4c. bill



On Sep 12, 2017, at 1:47 PM, Don Wilhelm  wrote:

I have updated my website www.w3fpr.com with a document dealing with using 
Elecraft transceivers for soundcard data modes.
Scroll down to the bottom of the left column and click on the link to the page.

This document has been reviewed by Wayne and Lyle (perhaps others) at Elecraft 
and approved.

As pointed out, Elecraft transceivers behave differently than other amateur 
transceivers, so the setup procedure is different than the common internet 
advice.

73,
Don W3FPR
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Re: [Elecraft] Setting the audio level for use in soundcard data modes.

2017-09-12 Thread Nr4c 
Thanks, Don. 

I have followed these instructions for years and data modes are not difficult. 

My biggest issue has been with software and not realizing how many little check 
boxes and other items in varied locations can affect the pleasure or distaste 
for digital applications. Such as using RTTY and every time I try to run the 
software resets my mode to FSK and I'm using a sound card!  Oh yeah, there is a 
option for that somewhere in the program, just need to find it. 

Anyway. Good on you for adding this to your website. 

Sent from my iPhone
...nr4c. bill


> On Sep 12, 2017, at 1:47 PM, Don Wilhelm  wrote:
> 
> I have updated my website www.w3fpr.com with a document dealing with using 
> Elecraft transceivers for soundcard data modes.
> Scroll down to the bottom of the left column and click on the link to the 
> page.
> 
> This document has been reviewed by Wayne and Lyle (perhaps others) at 
> Elecraft and approved.
> 
> As pointed out, Elecraft transceivers behave differently than other amateur 
> transceivers, so the setup procedure is different than the common internet 
> advice.
> 
> 73,
> Don W3FPR
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