Re: [O] MobileOrg and other tools

[Bob Newell]

I'm not going to be critical of either MobileOrg or Orgzly, which are
the way to go if you want a dedicated app. But I much prefer going to
the trouble of setting up a Termux environment, which allows Emacs to
run in a very close to native term mode on any Android device.

I combine this with an rsync service and I have my working environment
on two Linux desktops, three Linux laptops and three Android devices,
including my phone.

-- 
Bob Newell
Honolulu, Hawai`i

Via Linux/Emacs/Gnus/BBDB.

Re: [O] MobileOrg and other tools

[Toon Claes]

Carsten Dominik  writes:

> I know that Orgzly is actively supported and in excellent shape.  But I
> don't know about MobileOrg or Syncorg for that matter, or any other similar
> tools.

https://beorgapp.com for iOS is actively developed and in a great shape.

--
Toon

Re: [O] MobileOrg and other tools

[Jean Louis]

* Carsten Dominik  [2019-08-18 13:41]:
> does anyone know if the MobileOrg apps for both iOS and Android are still
> supported, and by who?

I prefer that MobileOrg options are removed from Org menu in
Emacs. Just my opinion. It is not necessary.

> I know that Orgzly is actively supported and in excellent shape.  But I
> don't know about MobileOrg or Syncorg for that matter, or any other similar
> tools.

I prefer no such options to be in Org menu, but people can make
packages and support it separately.

> Does anyone have an overview over all these implementations and their
> status?

I just know that for me longer time MobileOrg is not accessible on
F-droid.org and I could not update it, and also was not usable
application. Orgzly is much better, but it is not Org as on Emacs. It
gives some compatibility.

-- 
Thanks,
Jean Louis

[O] MobileOrg and other tools

[Carsten Dominik]

Hi,

does anyone know if the MobileOrg apps for both iOS and Android are still
supported, and by who?

I know that Orgzly is actively supported and in excellent shape.  But I
don't know about MobileOrg or Syncorg for that matter, or any other similar
tools.

Does anyone have an overview over all these implementations and their
status?

Thanks.

Carsten

[O] mobileorg on ios pulls all unmodified files

[Guido Van Hoecke]

Hi,

I am running mobileorg 1.7.1 on ios 10.2.1 using Dropbox as backend
store.

I'd expect the app to only pull the changed files from Dropbox. But it
pulls all of them, at every sync. E.g. three consecutive syncs without any
changes on Dropbox pulls all files, three times in a row.

I thought it would only pull the newer files?

-- 
Guido

"Anything else you wish to draw to my attention, Mr. Holmes ?"
"The curious incident of the stable dog in the nighttime."
"But the dog did nothing in the nighttime."
"That was the curious incident."
-- A. Conan Doyle, "Silver Blaze"

Re: [O] mobileorg agendas.org has no entries [8.3.4 (8.3.4-elpa @ c:/Users/Michael/AppData/Roaming/.emacs.d/elpa/org-20160222/)]

[Michael Ziems]

Hello Nicolas,

the result is:

Result: (("C:\\Users\\Michael\\Documents\\org\\work.org" . "work.org") 
("C:\\Users\\Michael\\Documents\\org\\dienst.org" . "dienst.org") 
("C:\\Users\\Michael\\Documents\\org\\info-work.org" . "info-work.org") 
("C:\\Users\\Michael\\Documents\\org\\info-privat.org" . 
"info-privat.org") ("C:\\Users\\Michael\\Documents\\org\\privat.org" . 
"privat.org"))


Which looks correct.

My setup is:
(setq org-mobile-directory 
"C:\\Users\\Michael\\Documents\\org\\MobileOrg\\")
(setq org-mobile-inbox-for-pull 
"C:\\Users\\Michael\\Documents\\org\\MobileOrg\\inbox.org")


(defcustom org-mobile-checksum-binary (or
 (executable-find 
"C:\\Users\\Michael\\Documents\\md5sum.exe")

 )
 "Executable used for computing checksums of agenda files."
 :group 'org-mobile
 :type 'string)

The agendas.org output looks like this (example for one agenda:

* 80 days-agenda (W31-W42):KEYS=x TITLE: Nur Kalender ohne 
Aufgaben

** Dienstag2 August 2016
** Mittwoch3 August 2016
** Donnerstag  4 August 2016
** Freitag 5 August 2016
** Samstag 6 August 2016
** Sonntag 7 August 2016
** Montag  8 August 2016 W32
** Dienstag9 August 2016
** Mittwoch   10 August 2016
** Donnerstag 11 August 2016
** Freitag12 August 2016
** Samstag13 August 2016
** Sonntag14 August 2016
** Montag 15 August 2016 W33
** Dienstag   16 August 2016
** Mittwoch   17 August 2016
** Donnerstag 18 August 2016
** Freitag19 August 2016
** Samstag20 August 2016
** Sonntag21 August 2016
** Montag 22 August 2016 W34
** Dienstag   23 August 2016
** Mittwoch   24 August 2016
** Donnerstag 25 August 2016
** Freitag26 August 2016
** Samstag27 August 2016
** Sonntag28 August 2016
** Montag 29 August 2016 W35
** Dienstag   30 August 2016
** Mittwoch   31 August 2016
** Donnerstag  1 September 2016
** Freitag 2 September 2016
** Samstag 3 September 2016
** Sonntag 4 September 2016
** Montag  5 September 2016 W36
  Diary:  Labor Day
** Dienstag6 September 2016
** Mittwoch7 September 2016
** Donnerstag  8 September 2016
** Freitag 9 September 2016
** Samstag10 September 2016
** Sonntag11 September 2016
** Montag 12 September 2016 W37
** Dienstag   13 September 2016
** Mittwoch   14 September 2016
** Donnerstag 15 September 2016
** Freitag16 September 2016
** Samstag17 September 2016
** Sonntag18 September 2016
** Montag 19 September 2016 W38
** Dienstag   20 September 2016
** Mittwoch   21 September 2016
** Donnerstag 22 September 2016
  Diary:  16:20.. Autumnal Equinox (Mitteleuropäische Sommerzeit)
** Freitag23 September 2016
** Samstag24 September 2016
** Sonntag25 September 2016
** Montag 26 September 2016 W39
** Dienstag   27 September 2016
** Mittwoch   28 September 2016
** Donnerstag 29 September 2016
** Freitag30 September 2016
** Samstag 1 Oktober 2016
** Sonntag 2 Oktober 2016
** Montag  3 Oktober 2016 W40
  Diary:  Islamic New Year 1438
  Diary:  Rosh HaShanah 5777
** Dienstag4 Oktober 2016
** Mittwoch5 Oktober 2016
** Donnerstag  6 Oktober 2016
** Freitag 7 Oktober 2016
** Samstag 8 Oktober 2016
** Sonntag 9 Oktober 2016
** Montag 10 Oktober 2016 W41
  Diary:  Columbus Day
** Dienstag   11 Oktober 2016
** Mittwoch   12 Oktober 2016
  Diary:  Yom Kippur
** Donnerstag 13 Oktober 2016
** Freitag14 Oktober 2016
** Samstag15 Oktober 2016
** Sonntag16 Oktober 2016
** Montag 17 Oktober 2016 W42
  Diary:  Sukkot
** Dienstag   18 Oktober 2016
** Mittwoch   19 Oktober 2016
** Donnerstag 20 Oktober 2016
  Diary:  Birth of the Báb

Whereas the normal output in emacs is having a lot of my headlines with 
dates in there.


I will continue to understand edebug and try to check, what is wrong.

Do you have any idea, what i might be missing?

Thanks,

Michael

Am 25.07.2016 um 14:03 schrieb Nicolas Goaziou:

Hello,

Michael Ziems  writes:


Hello Philip,

thanks for the answer, but that did not help me, i believe.
I went trough the org-mobile-push with the edebug, but i believe that
i have to understand how another function that is in there works,
maybe these:

 (let ((inhibit-redisplay t)
   (org-agenda-files (mapcar 'car org-mobile-files-alist)))
   (org-mobile-create-sumo-agenda))

and i cannot start the debugger in the same way on them, as they are
not startable via M-x.


Does anybody have a clue, what could be the reason, why my agenda is
normally created but the agendas.org is containing all my agenda view
but without any headline (todo) in it?

What is the return value for `org-mobile-files-alist'?

What is your setup related to "org-mobile"?


Regards,






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Re: [O] mobileorg agendas.org has no entries [8.3.4 (8.3.4-elpa @ c:/Users/Michael/AppData/Roaming/.emacs.d/elpa/org-20160222/)]

[Nicolas Goaziou]

Hello,

Michael Ziems  writes:

> Hello Philip,
>
> thanks for the answer, but that did not help me, i believe.
> I went trough the org-mobile-push with the edebug, but i believe that
> i have to understand how another function that is in there works,
> maybe these:
>
> (let ((inhibit-redisplay t)
>   (org-agenda-files (mapcar 'car org-mobile-files-alist)))
>   (org-mobile-create-sumo-agenda))
>
> and i cannot start the debugger in the same way on them, as they are
> not startable via M-x.
>
>
> Does anybody have a clue, what could be the reason, why my agenda is
> normally created but the agendas.org is containing all my agenda view
> but without any headline (todo) in it?

What is the return value for `org-mobile-files-alist'?

What is your setup related to "org-mobile"?


Regards,

-- 
Nicolas Goaziou

Re: [O] MobileOrg: index.org links files to the wrong folder

[Nicolas Goaziou]

Hello,

Martin Leduc  writes:

> The generated index.org file in MobileOrg/ looks like:
>
> #+READONLY
> #+TODO: TODO
> #+TODO: NEXT WAITING SOMEDAY |
> #+TAGS: @HOME WORK EMAIL CALL READ ERRAND AGENDAS
> #+ALLPRIORITIES: A B C
> * [[file:agendas.org][Agenda Views]]
> * [[file:~/org-mode-files/test.org][test.org]]
>
> The test.org file cannot be read from my iPhone since only the 
> org-mobile-directory is accessible to it.

Fixed. Thank you.

Regards,

-- 
Nicolas Goaziou

Re: [O] mobileorg agendas.org has no entries [8.3.4 (8.3.4-elpa @ c:/Users/Michael/AppData/Roaming/.emacs.d/elpa/org-20160222/)]

[Michael Ziems]

Hello Philip,

thanks for the answer, but that did not help me, i believe.
I went trough the org-mobile-push with the edebug, but i believe that i 
have to understand how another function that is in there works, maybe these:


(let ((inhibit-redisplay t)
  (org-agenda-files (mapcar 'car org-mobile-files-alist)))
  (org-mobile-create-sumo-agenda))

and i cannot start the debugger in the same way on them, as they are not 
startable via M-x.



Does anybody have a clue, what could be the reason, why my agenda is 
normally created but the agendas.org is containing all my agenda view 
but without any headline (todo) in it?



Am 06.07.2016 um 00:06 schrieb Philip Hudson:

On 5 July 2016 at 21:09, Michael Ziems  wrote:

Is there any way, that i can try to debug the "org-mobile-push"


Eval this in your scratch buffer:

(info "(elisp) Edebug")

Then use C-h f org-mobile-push -- the function help buffer contains a
link to the function's source code definition, which you can then
instrument for the debugger by typing C-u C-M-x with point anywhere in
the function definition.

HTH






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[O] MobileOrg: index.org links files to the wrong folder

[Martin Leduc]

Hi,

I really enjoy the MobileOrg project. However, since some time, I cannot 
access my org files anymore from my iPhone (I see the file names, but 
nodes are empty). After some search, I found that the links made in the 
index.org point relatively to the org-directory while they are supposed 
(if I'm understanding correctly) to point to the org files in the same 
directory as the index.org (that is in org-mobile-directory). My emacs 
configuration is the following:


(setq org-directory "~/Dropbox/env/org-mode-files")
(setq org-mobile-inbox-for-pull "~/Dropbox/env/org-mode-files/flagged.org")
(setq org-mobile-directory "~/Dropbox/Apps/MobileOrg")
(setq org-mobile-files '("~/org-mode-files/test.org"))


The generated index.org file in MobileOrg/ looks like:

#+READONLY
#+TODO: TODO
#+TODO: NEXT WAITING SOMEDAY |
#+TAGS: @HOME WORK EMAIL CALL READ ERRAND AGENDAS
#+ALLPRIORITIES: A B C
* [[file:agendas.org][Agenda Views]]
* [[file:~/org-mode-files/test.org][test.org]]

The test.org file cannot be read from my iPhone since only the 
org-mobile-directory is accessible to it.


I cannot see from the code or my configuration what causes this 
behavior, but if I'm going back to this specific commit:


commit 74d3bd484fc0c79fd51302922c0eee8c3042fe14
Author: Nicolas Goaziou 
Date:   Sun Apr 17 17:00:14 2016 +0200

the org-mobile-push now creates the index.org correctly with the last 
line as follows :


* [[file:test.org][test.org]]

So I see three possibilities: (1) I need to use a different emacs 
configuration since this commit, (2) there is some bug in the code or 
(3) I missed an important detail.


Thank you in advance for helping,

Martin

Re: [O] mobileorg agendas.org has no entries [8.3.4 (8.3.4-elpa @ c:/Users/Michael/AppData/Roaming/.emacs.d/elpa/org-20160222/)]

[Michael Ziems]

Hello,

i actually still have the same issue. Is there any way, that i can try 
to debug the "org-mobile-push" to understand why it does not fill the 
agendas.org with any of my headlines?


Thanks in advance for any help :)

Michael


Am 29.02.2016 um 22:04 schrieb Michael Ziems:

Hello,

i updated to org-mode 8.3.4 on windows.
When i now do an org-mobile-push then the agendas.org file is created
but has no entries. it only contains the dates and diary entries, but
none of my tasks, as if no agenda files would be there.
When i use orgmode normally on my pc, everything is working fine.
Am i doing something wrong?

Thanks,

Michael

Emacs  : GNU Emacs 24.4.1 (i686-pc-mingw32)
 of 2014-10-24 on LEG570
Package: Org-mode version 8.3.4 (8.3.4-elpa @ 
c:/Users/Michael/AppData/Roaming/.emacs.d/elpa/org-20160222/)


current state:
==
(setq
 org-ctrl-c-ctrl-c-hook '(org-babel-hash-at-point 
org-babel-execute-safely-maybe)

 org-stuck-projects '("+2DO/+WARTEN" nil nil "+#A/+#B/+#C")
 org-agenda-sticky t
 org-agenda-window-setup 'current-window
 org-tab-first-hook '(org-hide-block-toggle-maybe 
org-babel-hide-result-toggle-maybe

  org-babel-header-arg-expand)
 org-archive-hook '(org-attach-archive-delete-maybe)
 org-refile-targets '((org-agenda-files :maxlevel . 24))
 org-cycle-hook '(org-cycle-hide-archived-subtrees org-cycle-hide-drawers
  org-cycle-show-empty-lines
  org-optimize-window-after-visibility-change)
 org-agenda-custom-commands '(("x" "Nur Kalender ohne Aufgaben" agenda ""
   ((org-agenda-span 80) (org-deadline-warning-days 1)
(org-agenda-include-diary t)
(org-agenda-entry-types (quote (:timestamp :sexp)))
(org-agenda-files
 (quote
("C:\\Users\\Michael\\Documents\\org\\privat.org"
"C:\\Users\\Michael\\Documents\\org\\dienst.org"
   "C:\\Users\\Michael\\Documents\\org\\work.org")
  )
 )
)
("C:\\Users\\Michael\\Documents\\org\\export\\kalender.txt")
   )
  ("w" "Agenda Work" agenda ""
   ((org-agenda-files
 (quote
  ("C:\\Users\\Michael\\Documents\\org\\work.org"
"C:\\Users\\Michael\\Documents\\org\\info-work.org")
  )
 )
(org-agenda-span 1) (org-agenda-include-diary nil)
(org-deadline-warning-days 4))
   )
  ("p" "Agenda Privat" agenda ""
   ((org-agenda-files
 (quote
("C:\\Users\\Michael\\Documents\\org\\privat.org"
"C:\\Users\\Michael\\Documents\\org\\dienst.org"
"C:\\Users\\Michael\\Documents\\org\\info-privat.org")
  )
 )
(org-agenda-span 1) (org-deadline-warning-days 14)
(org-agenda-include-diary t))
("C:\\Users\\Michael\\Documents\\org\\export\\privat.txt")
   )
  ("k" "kombinierte Ansicht"
   ((agenda ""
 ((org-agenda-span 1)
  (org-agenda-entry-types (quote (:timestamp :sexp)))
  (org-agenda-tag-filter-preset (quote nil))
  (org-agenda-include-diary t))
 )
(agenda ""
 ((org-agenda-overriding-header "Aufgaben Arbeit")
  (org-agenda-entry-types
   (quote (:deadline :scheduled)))
  (org-deadline-warning-days 1)
  (org-agenda-files
   (quote
("C:\\Users\\Michael\\Documents\\org\\work.org"
"C:\\Users\\Michael\\Documents\\org\\info-work.org")
)
   )
  (org-agenda-span 1)
  (org-agenda-sorting-strategy
   (quote (priority-down deadline-up)))
  )
 )
)
   nil)
  ("2" "Aufgabenliste Privat" alltodo ""
   ((org-agenda-overriding-header "Aufgaben")
(org-agenda-sorting-strategy (quote (scheduled-up)))
(org-agenda-files
 (quote
("C:\\Users\\Michael\\Documents\\org\\dienst.org"
"C:\\Users\\Michael\\Documents\\org\\privat.org"
"C:\\Users\\Michael\\Documents\\org\\info-privat.org")
  )
 )
(org-agenda-prefix-format "[] %i %-12:c")
(org-agenda-skip-function
 (quote
  (org-agenda-skip-entry-if (quote notscheduled)))
 )
)
("C:\\Users\\Michael\\Documents\\org\\export\\Aufgaben.txt")
   )
  ("d" "Dienst" alltodo ""
   ((org-agenda-files
 (quote
("C:\\Users\\Michael\\Documents\\org\\dienst.org"))
 )
(org-agenda-sorting-strategy
 (quote (todo-state-down timestamp-up)))

Re: [O] MobileOrg Export Broken

[Nicolas Goaziou]

Hello,

Ian Dunn  writes:

> I run Org from the git repo, updating daily. I unsuccessfully
> tried syncing with MobileOrg (Android) about two hours ago. I reverted
> org-mobile.el back to the version from yesterday and found the
> problem: TODO keywords aren't being listed correctly. Here's an
> example:
>
> Old:
> #+TODO: TODO | DEFERRED DONE PENDING CANCELLED
>
> New:
> #+TODO: TODO
>
> This messes with MobileOrg, preventing it from syncing.
>
> I worked through the problem, which appears to be caused by
> org-delete-all being called before the TODO keywords are inserted
> into the file.  I attached a patch that fixes this problem.

Correct. I pushed a slightly different patch. Thank you.

Regards,

-- 
Nicolas Goaziou

[O] MobileOrg Export Broken

[Ian Dunn]

I run Org from the git repo, updating daily.  I unsuccessfully tried 
syncing with MobileOrg (Android) about two hours ago.  I reverted org-mobile.el 
back to the version from yesterday and found the problem: TODO keywords aren't 
being listed correctly.  Here's an example:

Old:
#+TODO: TODO | DEFERRED DONE PENDING CANCELLED

New:
#+TODO: TODO

This messes with MobileOrg, preventing it from syncing.

I worked through the problem, which appears to be caused by org-delete-all 
being called before the TODO keywords are inserted into the file.  I attached a 
patch that fixes this problem.

-- 
Ian Dunn

diff --git a/lisp/org-mobile.el b/lisp/org-mobile.el
index 9c69128..9192561 100644
--- a/lisp/org-mobile.el
+++ b/lisp/org-mobile.el
@@ -446,8 +446,9 @@ agenda view showing the flagged items."
   x))
 			 (cdr entry)))
 	   (dwds (or (member "|" kwds) (last kwds)))
-	   (twds (org-delete-all dwds kwds)))
+	   (twds kwds))
 	  (insert "#+TODO: " (mapconcat 'identity kwds " ") "\n")
+	  (org-delete-all dwds twds)
 	  (setq todo-kwds (org-delete-all twds todo-kwds))
 	  (setq done-kwds (org-delete-all dwds done-kwds
   (when (or todo-kwds done-kwds)

Re: [O] MobileOrg: adding new file

[Philip Hudson]

On 14 June 2016 at 13:20, Benoît Coste  wrote:
> So what I wanted to discuss was the possibility for a MobileOrg to create
> new files from its phone and keep them synched.
>
> Currently the list of synched files is a file called "index.org" stored in
> the synch folder and Emacs and MobileOrg use ite for pulling changes.
> However everytime Emacs pushes a changes, it overwrites this file. Because
> for pushing, Emacs use a second list of files, the variable
> 'org-agenda-files and it will recreate a new index.org based on
> org-agenda-files content. To conclude, if MobileOrg had added a file to
> synch in index.org, it will be removed from the list after next Emacs push.
>
> So my suggestion is for Emacs to stop using org-agenda-files to generate the
> list of synched file but use the currently existing index.org. In case
> index.org does not exist (for eg. at repo initialization), then
> org-agenda-files can be used to create it.
>
> To be honest, after a lot of reflexion, I think more and more about using a
> external synch mechanism (such as git) instead of using org-mobile.el. A
> positive point would be to allow non-Emacs people to use MobileOrg with
> synchronization. So I may not even use my own suggestion but I still think
> it is worth to mention this "incoherence".
>
> Regards
>
> On Sun, Jun 12, 2016 at 3:24 PM Nicolas Goaziou 
> wrote:
>>
>> Hello,
>>
>> Benoît Coste  writes:
>>
>> > I am working on remodeling MobileOrg for Android and I'd like to discuss
>> > a
>> > few changes for mobile-org.el.
>>
>> I read your mail from a month ago. Unfortunately, I don't know enough of
>> this library to be useful to the discussion.
>>
>> > I am trying to contact the maintainer of mobile org. The file
>> > mobile-org.el
>> > says cars...@orgmode.org but I tried it and it is not working. Does
>> > anyone
>> > know who is currently maintaining mobile-org.el ?
>>
>> It is part of Org core, so anyone with write access to repository can
>> maintain it. The current maintainer is Bastien Guerry, who reads this
>> list. IOW, you can discuss the changes here.

There is already one-way information transfer from MobileOrg to Emacs,
via the file mobileorg.org. This is processed by `org-mobile-pull'.
Could it be adapted to include a new instruction type for telling
Emacs about any new files to include? Function `org-mobile-apply'
looks like the one to modify (and rename meaningfully, and
functionally decompose...)

-- 
Phil Hudson   http://hudson-it.ddns.net
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[O] MobileOrg: adding new file

[Benoît Coste]

Hello

So what I wanted to discuss was the possibility for a MobileOrg to create
new files from its phone and keep them synched.

Currently the list of synched files is a file called "index.org" stored in
the synch folder and Emacs and MobileOrg use ite for pulling changes.
However everytime Emacs pushes a changes, it overwrites this file. Because
for pushing, Emacs use a second list of files, the variable
'org-agenda-files and it will recreate a new index.org based on
org-agenda-files content. To conclude, if MobileOrg had added a file to
synch in index.org, it will be removed from the list after next Emacs push.

So my suggestion is for Emacs to stop using org-agenda-files to generate
the list of synched file but use the currently existing index.org. In case
index.org does not exist (for eg. at repo initialization), then
org-agenda-files can be used to create it.

To be honest, after a lot of reflexion, I think more and more about using a
external synch mechanism (such as git) instead of using org-mobile.el. A
positive point would be to allow non-Emacs people to use MobileOrg with
synchronization. So I may not even use my own suggestion but I still think
it is worth to mention this "incoherence".

Regards

On Sun, Jun 12, 2016 at 3:24 PM Nicolas Goaziou 
wrote:

> Hello,
>
> Benoît Coste  writes:
>
> > I am working on remodeling MobileOrg for Android and I'd like to discuss
> a
> > few changes for mobile-org.el.
>
> I read your mail from a month ago. Unfortunately, I don't know enough of
> this library to be useful to the discussion.
>
> > I am trying to contact the maintainer of mobile org. The file
> mobile-org.el
> > says cars...@orgmode.org but I tried it and it is not working. Does
> anyone
> > know who is currently maintaining mobile-org.el ?
>
> It is part of Org core, so anyone with write access to repository can
> maintain it. The current maintainer is Bastien Guerry, who reads this
> list. IOW, you can discuss the changes here.
>
> Regards,
>
> --
> Nicolas Goaziou
>

[O] MobileOrg: creating new org file from the mobile side

[Benoît Coste]

Dear all,

First of all, thanks for maintaining the awesome org-mode. My name is
Benoît Coste. I have recently forked
 the Android version of
MobileOrg to take back the development and I am facing a problem when
syncing new files created from the mobile side.

I want people to be able to create new org files from the mobile side and
keep them synced with Emacs. If my understanding is correct this is
currently not possible because it is Emacs who is in charge of creating the
list of synced files through index.org and checksums.dat. One start of hack
I have been doing is to append the newly created file in these too files
via the mobile side.
*Eg: the user has created the file test.org . Then the
line "* [[file:test.org ][test.org ]]"
will be appended to index.org  and "0  test.org
" to checksums.dat by the mobile app.*
The hack only half-works. It works for pulling but not push. Emacs get the
list of files to pull by scanning the index.org file so it will pull
(org-mobile-pull) the new file. However for pushing (org-mobile-push) Emacs
refers to its own internal variable org-agenda-files and won't push the new
version of the new file.
One simple solution I have been thinking about was that when Emacs performs
org-mobile-pull, if it sees files not belonging to org-agenda-files, it
would then prompt the user to add them to the list.

To be a bit more abstract I would say this is just a quick fix that would
patch only the surface of a bigger problem. Conceptually I find that the
real root of the problem is there are two lists keeping the same list of
synced files: org-agenda-files controls pushed files and index.org controls
pulled files. Moreover the variable org-agenda-files is unreachable from
the mobile side (it is normally stored in Emacs init.el). To my taste, it
seems that org-agenda-files is not necessary for MobileOrg and I think it
should not be used. The list of files to be synced should only be in the
staging area (Dropbox or whatever) and every application willing to sync
(Emacs included) should refer to it when doing the syncing. The only useful
usage of org-agenda-files I see would be in the case of an empty staging
area. Then Emacs could use org-agenda-file to initialize the list of synced
files.

These are just suggestions, I'd be glad to help if there is any changes to
be done in the lisp code (even if I am pretty noob at it!). Maybe I missed
something, maybe there is already a way to add files from the mobile side.
Please tell me your thoughts.

Cheers,
Benoît

[O] mobileorg agendas.org has no entries [8.3.4 (8.3.4-elpa @ c:/Users/Michael/AppData/Roaming/.emacs.d/elpa/org-20160222/)]

[Michael Ziems]

Hello,

i updated to org-mode 8.3.4 on windows.
When i now do an org-mobile-push then the agendas.org file is created
but has no entries. it only contains the dates and diary entries, but
none of my tasks, as if no agenda files would be there.
When i use orgmode normally on my pc, everything is working fine.
Am i doing something wrong?

Thanks,

Michael

Emacs  : GNU Emacs 24.4.1 (i686-pc-mingw32)
 of 2014-10-24 on LEG570
Package: Org-mode version 8.3.4 (8.3.4-elpa @ 
c:/Users/Michael/AppData/Roaming/.emacs.d/elpa/org-20160222/)


current state:
==
(setq
 org-ctrl-c-ctrl-c-hook '(org-babel-hash-at-point 
org-babel-execute-safely-maybe)

 org-stuck-projects '("+2DO/+WARTEN" nil nil "+#A/+#B/+#C")
 org-agenda-sticky t
 org-agenda-window-setup 'current-window
 org-tab-first-hook '(org-hide-block-toggle-maybe 
org-babel-hide-result-toggle-maybe

  org-babel-header-arg-expand)
 org-archive-hook '(org-attach-archive-delete-maybe)
 org-refile-targets '((org-agenda-files :maxlevel . 24))
 org-cycle-hook '(org-cycle-hide-archived-subtrees org-cycle-hide-drawers
  org-cycle-show-empty-lines
  org-optimize-window-after-visibility-change)
 org-agenda-custom-commands '(("x" "Nur Kalender ohne Aufgaben" agenda ""
   ((org-agenda-span 80) (org-deadline-warning-days 1)
(org-agenda-include-diary t)
(org-agenda-entry-types (quote (:timestamp :sexp)))
(org-agenda-files
 (quote
  ("C:\\Users\\Michael\\Documents\\org\\privat.org"
   "C:\\Users\\Michael\\Documents\\org\\dienst.org"
   "C:\\Users\\Michael\\Documents\\org\\work.org")
  )
 )
)
("C:\\Users\\Michael\\Documents\\org\\export\\kalender.txt")
   )
  ("w" "Agenda Work" agenda ""
   ((org-agenda-files
 (quote
  ("C:\\Users\\Michael\\Documents\\org\\work.org"
"C:\\Users\\Michael\\Documents\\org\\info-work.org")
  )
 )
(org-agenda-span 1) (org-agenda-include-diary nil)
(org-deadline-warning-days 4))
   )
  ("p" "Agenda Privat" agenda ""
   ((org-agenda-files
 (quote
  ("C:\\Users\\Michael\\Documents\\org\\privat.org"
   "C:\\Users\\Michael\\Documents\\org\\dienst.org"
"C:\\Users\\Michael\\Documents\\org\\info-privat.org")
  )
 )
(org-agenda-span 1) (org-deadline-warning-days 14)
(org-agenda-include-diary t))
("C:\\Users\\Michael\\Documents\\org\\export\\privat.txt")
   )
  ("k" "kombinierte Ansicht"
   ((agenda ""
 ((org-agenda-span 1)
  (org-agenda-entry-types (quote (:timestamp :sexp)))
  (org-agenda-tag-filter-preset (quote nil))
  (org-agenda-include-diary t))
 )
(agenda ""
 ((org-agenda-overriding-header "Aufgaben Arbeit")
  (org-agenda-entry-types
   (quote (:deadline :scheduled)))
  (org-deadline-warning-days 1)
  (org-agenda-files
   (quote
("C:\\Users\\Michael\\Documents\\org\\work.org"
"C:\\Users\\Michael\\Documents\\org\\info-work.org")
)
   )
  (org-agenda-span 1)
  (org-agenda-sorting-strategy
   (quote (priority-down deadline-up)))
  )
 )
)
   nil)
  ("2" "Aufgabenliste Privat" alltodo ""
   ((org-agenda-overriding-header "Aufgaben")
(org-agenda-sorting-strategy (quote (scheduled-up)))
(org-agenda-files
 (quote
  ("C:\\Users\\Michael\\Documents\\org\\dienst.org"
   "C:\\Users\\Michael\\Documents\\org\\privat.org"
"C:\\Users\\Michael\\Documents\\org\\info-privat.org")
  )
 )
(org-agenda-prefix-format "[] %i %-12:c")
(org-agenda-skip-function
 (quote
  (org-agenda-skip-entry-if (quote notscheduled)))
 )
)
("C:\\Users\\Michael\\Documents\\org\\export\\Aufgaben.txt")
   )
  ("d" "Dienst" alltodo ""
   ((org-agenda-files
 (quote
("C:\\Users\\Michael\\Documents\\org\\dienst.org"))
 )
(org-agenda-sorting-strategy
 (quote (todo-state-down timestamp-up)))
(org-agenda-prefix-format "%b"))
("C:\\Users\\Michael\\Documents\\org\\export\\dienst.txt")
   )
  ("c" "Tageska

Re: [O] MobileOrg does not sync with local Android calendar

[Eric S Fraga]

On Saturday,  6 Feb 2016 at 19:03, cschr wrote:
> Thanks Ramon and Eric
>
> Are you using custom agenda views ?  Someone wrote on the web that
> this is required - is he right ?

I am using some custom views but not sure if this is necessary for
calendar synchronisation.  It should be easy enough to test.  Create a
simple custom view, e.g.:

#+begin_src emacs-lisp
  (setq org-agenda-custom-commands
'(("l" "Location agenda view" agenda ""
   ((org-agenda-files '("~/s/notes/diary.org"))
(org-agenda-ndays 1)
(org-agenda-overriding-columns-format "%TIMESTAMP %60ITEM 
%20LOCATION")
(org-agenda-view-columns-initially t)
#+end_src

and then push to and pull from mobileorg as required.
-- 
: Eric S Fraga (0xFFFCF67D), Emacs 25.0.90.1, Org release_8.3.3-535-g7213aa

Re: [O] MobileOrg does not sync with local Android calendar

[Ramon Diaz-Uriarte]

On Sat, 06-02-2016, at 19:03, cschr  wrote:
> Thanks Ramon and Eric
>
> Are you using custom agenda views ?  Someone wrote on the web that this

Not that I am aware of. Where would I have done that (so I can check)?

> is required - is he right ?
>
> Chris
>
> -Original Message-
> From: emacs-orgmode-bounces+cschr=freenet...@gnu.org 
> [mailto:emacs-orgmode-bounces+cschr=freenet...@gnu.org] On Behalf Of Ramon 
> Diaz-Uriarte
> Sent: Sonntag, 31. Januar 2016 16:13
> To: Eric S Fraga
> Cc: emacs-orgmode@gnu.org; cschr
> Subject: Re: [O] MobileOrg does not sync with local Android calendar
>
>
>
>
> On Sun, 31-01-2016, at 13:36, Eric S Fraga  wrote:
>> On Sunday, 31 Jan 2016 at 08:42, cschr wrote:
>>> Hi
>>>
>>> I set up MobileOrg and it now shows the appointments from my emacs 
>>> diary and my orgmode agenda. But nothing shows in my local android 
>>> calendar, although I configured MobileOrg to sync with the android 
>>> calendar. Is this functionality known to work, at all, and are there
>>> any special preconditions ?   I tried with two different smartphones
>>> – a Sony Xperia Pro with Android 4.0.4, and a Mobistel Cygnus with 
>>> Android 4.4.2
>>>
>>
>> It syncs with my calendar on cyanogenmod latest nightly snapshot on a 
>> Nexus 4.  I've had no issues in this regard in a very long time.
>>
>
> It has also worked for me for a long time in several tablets/phones. Right 
> now it is working on two tablets (BQ edison 3 and Nexus 7) with stock android 
> 4.4 and a phone with stock android 5. It has worked in the past with Android 
> 4.1.
>
>
>
>
>> I think what I am using is roughly equivalent to android 5.1?  Not 
>> entirely sure however but definitely well past 4.x versions.  Whether 
>> this is relevant or not is unclear!


-- 
Ramon Diaz-Uriarte
Department of Biochemistry, Lab B-25
Facultad de Medicina
Universidad Autónoma de Madrid 
Arzobispo Morcillo, 4
28029 Madrid
Spain

Phone: +34-91-497-2412

Email: rdia...@gmail.com
   ramon.d...@iib.uam.es

http://ligarto.org/rdiaz

Re: [O] MobileOrg does not sync with local Android calendar

[cschr]

Thanks Ramon and Eric

Are you using custom agenda views ?   Someone wrote on the web that this is 
required - is he right ?

Chris

-Original Message-
From: emacs-orgmode-bounces+cschr=freenet...@gnu.org 
[mailto:emacs-orgmode-bounces+cschr=freenet...@gnu.org] On Behalf Of Ramon 
Diaz-Uriarte
Sent: Sonntag, 31. Januar 2016 16:13
To: Eric S Fraga
Cc: emacs-orgmode@gnu.org; cschr
Subject: Re: [O] MobileOrg does not sync with local Android calendar




On Sun, 31-01-2016, at 13:36, Eric S Fraga  wrote:
> On Sunday, 31 Jan 2016 at 08:42, cschr wrote:
>> Hi
>>
>> I set up MobileOrg and it now shows the appointments from my emacs 
>> diary and my orgmode agenda. But nothing shows in my local android 
>> calendar, although I configured MobileOrg to sync with the android 
>> calendar. Is this functionality known to work, at all, and are there
>> any special preconditions ?   I tried with two different smartphones
>> – a Sony Xperia Pro with Android 4.0.4, and a Mobistel Cygnus with 
>> Android 4.4.2
>>
>
> It syncs with my calendar on cyanogenmod latest nightly snapshot on a 
> Nexus 4.  I've had no issues in this regard in a very long time.
>

It has also worked for me for a long time in several tablets/phones. Right now 
it is working on two tablets (BQ edison 3 and Nexus 7) with stock android 4.4 
and a phone with stock android 5. It has worked in the past with Android 4.1.




> I think what I am using is roughly equivalent to android 5.1?  Not 
> entirely sure however but definitely well past 4.x versions.  Whether 
> this is relevant or not is unclear!


--
Ramon Diaz-Uriarte
Department of Biochemistry, Lab B-25
Facultad de Medicina
Universidad Autónoma de Madrid
Arzobispo Morcillo, 4
28029 Madrid
Spain

Phone: +34-91-497-2412

Email: rdia...@gmail.com
   ramon.d...@iib.uam.es

http://ligarto.org/rdiaz

Re: [O] MobileOrg does not sync with local Android calendar

[Ramon Diaz-Uriarte]

On Mon, 01-02-2016, at 17:35, Karl Voit  wrote:
> * Ramon Diaz-Uriarte  wrote:
>>
>> On Mon, 01-02-2016, at 14:20, Karl Voit  wrote:
>>
 The calendar name is set to "org-calendar" (I think that is the
 default, since I do not recall ever having changed/set it). 
>>>
>>> Mine is "Org". But in my calendar app, there is no "Org" calendar,
>>> just three others.
>>
>> No idea why that happens.
>>
>>> Whenever I choose an existing calendar within MobileOrg preferences,
>>> it stays at the non-existing "Org" calendar. I guess this is the
>>> reason why there is no data sync to my calendar.
>>
>> No idea what is happening there.
>
> Okay. A little bit confused now:
>
> When I checked MobileOrg a couple of minutes ago, I did see some
> (not all!) Org-mode events for the first time. Only scheduled
> things, no events with time-slots. I did not check any further.
>
> I recognized, that MobileOrg settings is showing me the previously
> selected existing calendar.
>
> In calendar, I noticed that sync was activated. Gr. I hate it,
> when something silently leaks my private data to the public cloud!
>
> After I disabled the sync-checkboxes for my three calendars, the
> Org-mode events were gone again.
>
> Quite disappointing, the whole story.


Karl, I am sorry I can provide no additional help here and that the whole
thing is frustrating. I've been using mobile-org for several years without
much tweaking and, yes, enabling (not happily) the syncing of calendar with
Google's cloud. That said, sometimes (for reasons I don't understand)
things do not work fully (the calendar is not updated completely, events
are missing, events get duplicated, etc). So this is not always 100%
reliable.

As for Android's calendar syncing with Google's cloud, and after reading
Brian van den Broek's and Bingo UV's comments about Offline Calendar, I
think I'll be trying that so I can get rid of the cloud.


Best,

R.


-- 
Ramon Diaz-Uriarte
Department of Biochemistry, Lab B-25
Facultad de Medicina
Universidad Autónoma de Madrid 
Arzobispo Morcillo, 4
28029 Madrid
Spain

Phone: +34-91-497-2412

Email: rdia...@gmail.com
   ramon.d...@iib.uam.es

http://ligarto.org/rdiaz

Re: [O] MobileOrg does not sync with local Android calendar

[Bingo UV]

On Mon, 1 Feb 2016 12:31:33 -0800
Brian van den Broek  wrote:


> 
> I use an app (from the Play Store) called Offline Calendar. It makes
> Google calendars that do not sync. I have mobile org write to a
> calendar it creates and never sync calendars on my phone or tablet.
> It works on my nexus 7 and my Moto G. It also worked on the Nexus 4
> and an ancient 2.x Android Samsung phone.
> 
> Best,
> 
> Brian vdB

Yes, I just want to chip in here and say that synchronizing with the
google cloud is not necessary at all for mobileorg calendar integration
to work. I use the same application (in fact from F-droid) to create
local non-cloud calendars and mobileorg uses it nicely.

Re: [O] MobileOrg does not sync with local Android calendar

[Brian van den Broek]

On Feb 1, 2016 5:21 AM, "Karl Voit"  wrote:
>
> btw, MobileOrg Android v0.9.13
>
> * Ramon Diaz-Uriarte  wrote:
> >
> > On Mon, 01-02-2016, at 12:11, Karl Voit  wrote:
> >>



> >> Maybe it has something to do with my disabled sync settings: I don't
> >> sync to the Google cloud.
> >
> > Aha, I think this is probably needed. I think I only get entries
updated if
> > I enable syncing of the calendar (but you can decide what you sync with
> > google --- no need to sync everything, from email to contacts to ).
>
> OK, then MobileOrg -> Calendar feature is of no use to me since I
> avoid the Google cloud.
>



> OK, at least I got a confirmation that MobileOrg needs this cloud
> sync stuff. How unfortunate.

I use an app (from the Play Store) called Offline Calendar. It makes Google
calendars that do not sync. I have mobile org write to a calendar it
creates and never sync calendars on my phone or tablet. It works on my
nexus 7 and my Moto G. It also worked on the Nexus 4 and an ancient 2.x
Android Samsung phone.

Best,

Brian vdB

Re: [O] MobileOrg does not sync with local Android calendar

[Karl Voit]

* Ramon Diaz-Uriarte  wrote:
>
> On Mon, 01-02-2016, at 14:20, Karl Voit  wrote:
>
>>> The calendar name is set to "org-calendar" (I think that is the
>>> default, since I do not recall ever having changed/set it). 
>>
>> Mine is "Org". But in my calendar app, there is no "Org" calendar,
>> just three others.
>
> No idea why that happens.
>
>> Whenever I choose an existing calendar within MobileOrg preferences,
>> it stays at the non-existing "Org" calendar. I guess this is the
>> reason why there is no data sync to my calendar.
>
> No idea what is happening there.

Okay. A little bit confused now:

When I checked MobileOrg a couple of minutes ago, I did see some
(not all!) Org-mode events for the first time. Only scheduled
things, no events with time-slots. I did not check any further.

I recognized, that MobileOrg settings is showing me the previously
selected existing calendar.

In calendar, I noticed that sync was activated. Gr. I hate it,
when something silently leaks my private data to the public cloud!

After I disabled the sync-checkboxes for my three calendars, the
Org-mode events were gone again.

Quite disappointing, the whole story.

-- 
mail|git|SVN|photos|postings|SMS|phonecalls|RSS|CSV|XML to Org-mode:
   > get Memacs from https://github.com/novoid/Memacs <

https://github.com/novoid/extract_pdf_annotations_to_orgmode + more on github

Re: [O] MobileOrg does not sync with local Android calendar

[Ramon Diaz-Uriarte]

On Mon, 01-02-2016, at 14:20, Karl Voit  wrote:

(I remove lots of stuff from previous thread)

>
>> The calendar name is set to "org-calendar" (I think that is the
>> default, since I do not recall ever having changed/set it). 
>
> Mine is "Org". But in my calendar app, there is no "Org" calendar,
> just three others.

No idea why that happens.

>
>
>> I see there six entries (one for my gmail user, one for "PC Sync" that I
>> have no idea what it is, then "org-calendar", a fourth called "Cumpleaños"
>> [birthdays] and then "Holidays in Spain" and a sixth one which seems to be
>> the same but in Spanish).
>
> I do have three entries, non of them named "Org".
>
> Whenever I choose an existing calendar within MobileOrg preferences,
> it stays at the non-existing "Org" calendar. I guess this is the
> reason why there is no data sync to my calendar.

No idea what is happening there.


>
>>> Maybe it has something to do with my disabled sync settings: I don't
>>> sync to the Google cloud.
>>
>> Aha, I think this is probably needed. I think I only get entries updated if
>> I enable syncing of the calendar (but you can decide what you sync with
>> google --- no need to sync everything, from email to contacts to ).
>
> OK, then MobileOrg -> Calendar feature is of no use to me since I
> avoid the Google cloud.
>
> That's really weird since this feature is especially useful to
> people not having Google Cloud sync activated.
>
>>> I gave up and use MobileOrg mainly for capturing and (seldom)
>>> browsing my Org files for information.
>
> OK, at least I got a confirmation that MobileOrg needs this cloud
> sync stuff. How unfortunate.

I am not 100% sure if syncing the calendar with google is _required_. I'll
try playing with it ASAP and report back.





-- 
Ramon Diaz-Uriarte
Department of Biochemistry, Lab B-25
Facultad de Medicina
Universidad Autónoma de Madrid 
Arzobispo Morcillo, 4
28029 Madrid
Spain

Phone: +34-91-497-2412

Email: rdia...@gmail.com
   ramon.d...@iib.uam.es

http://ligarto.org/rdiaz

Re: [O] MobileOrg does not sync with local Android calendar

[Karl Voit]

btw, MobileOrg Android v0.9.13

* Ramon Diaz-Uriarte  wrote:
>
> On Mon, 01-02-2016, at 12:11, Karl Voit  wrote:
>>
>> Contrary to many mentions on the mailinglist, this feature never
>> worked at my side as well:
>
> Hummm... I am just looking at the config in my phone (with Android 5). I
> have checked "Synchronize with calendar". 

Check.

> The calendar name is set to "org-calendar" (I think that is the
> default, since I do not recall ever having changed/set it). 

Mine is "Org". But in my calendar app, there is no "Org" calendar,
just three others.

> Under "Advanced" I set "Assimilate calendar entries" (this I find
> very useful for the odd case when i enter things in the android
> calendar directly).  I have NOT checked "Delete on assimilation".

Same here.

> I do not understand why the following is leading to trouble, so I think I
> am seriously misunderstanding something. 
>
>> Current situation: in MobileOrg settings, I want to choose a
>> calendar which gets populated by MobileOrg.
>
> I do not recall ever having to do anything especial here.
>
>> In the list of available calendars
>
> You mean the list that is available when you try to set the options under
> "Calendar name"?

Yes.

> I see there six entries (one for my gmail user, one for "PC Sync" that I
> have no idea what it is, then "org-calendar", a fourth called "Cumpleaños"
> [birthdays] and then "Holidays in Spain" and a sixth one which seems to be
> the same but in Spanish).

I do have three entries, non of them named "Org".

Whenever I choose an existing calendar within MobileOrg preferences,
it stays at the non-existing "Org" calendar. I guess this is the
reason why there is no data sync to my calendar.

>> I can choose whatever calendar I want but afterwards, MobileOrg shows
>> "Org" (the default one) as the selected calendar.
>
> If I understand correctly, this is used by MobileOrg to place its entries
> in a calendar that the Android calendar will use. When the entries are
> displayed in your Android calendar, you'll see these as coming from "Org"
> (or mobile-org).

Exactly.

> Why would you not want to set it to "Org"?

I don't have an existing "Org" calendar and I could not figure out
how to create it in my calendar app and MobileOrg obviously doesn't
create it on its own.

>> Maybe it has something to do with my disabled sync settings: I don't
>> sync to the Google cloud.
>
> Aha, I think this is probably needed. I think I only get entries updated if
> I enable syncing of the calendar (but you can decide what you sync with
> google --- no need to sync everything, from email to contacts to ).

OK, then MobileOrg -> Calendar feature is of no use to me since I
avoid the Google cloud.

That's really weird since this feature is especially useful to
people not having Google Cloud sync activated.

>> I gave up and use MobileOrg mainly for capturing and (seldom)
>> browsing my Org files for information.

OK, at least I got a confirmation that MobileOrg needs this cloud
sync stuff. How unfortunate.

-- 
mail|git|SVN|photos|postings|SMS|phonecalls|RSS|CSV|XML to Org-mode:
   > get Memacs from https://github.com/novoid/Memacs <

https://github.com/novoid/extract_pdf_annotations_to_orgmode + more on github

Re: [O] MobileOrg does not sync with local Android calendar

[Ramon Diaz-Uriarte]

On Mon, 01-02-2016, at 12:11, Karl Voit  wrote:
> * cschr  wrote:
>>
>> I set up MobileOrg and it now shows the appointments from my emacs diary and
>> my orgmode agenda. But nothing shows in my local android calendar, although
>> I configured MobileOrg to sync with the android calendar. Is this
>> functionality known to work, at all, and are there any special preconditions
>> ?   I tried with two different smartphones - a Sony Xperia Pro with Android
>> 4.0.4, and a Mobistel Cygnus with Android 4.4.2
>
> Contrary to many mentions on the mailinglist, this feature never
> worked at my side as well:


Hummm... I am just looking at the config in my phone (with Android 5). I
have checked "Synchronize with calendar". The calendar name is set to
"org-calendar" (I think that is the default, since I do not recall ever
having changed/set it). Under "Advanced" I set "Assimilate calendar
entries" (this I find very useful for the odd case when i enter things in
the android calendar directly).  I have NOT checked "Delete on
assimilation".


>
> Nexus 5 with CyanogenMod 12.1-20150808-NIGHTLY-hammerhead (Android
> 5.1.1)
>



I do not understand why the following is leading to trouble, so I think I
am seriously misunderstanding something. 

> Current situation: in MobileOrg settings, I want to choose a
> calendar which gets populated by MobileOrg.

I do not recall ever having to do anything especial here.

> In the list of available calendars

You mean the list that is available when you try to set the options under
"Calendar name"?

I see there six entries (one for my gmail user, one for "PC Sync" that I
have no idea what it is, then "org-calendar", a fourth called "Cumpleaños"
[birthdays] and then "Holidays in Spain" and a sixth one which seems to be
the same but in Spanish).

> I can choose whatever calendar I want but afterwards, MobileOrg shows
> "Org" (the default one) as the selected calendar.

If I understand correctly, this is used by MobileOrg to place its entries
in a calendar that the Android calendar will use. When the entries are
displayed in your Android calendar, you'll see these as coming from "Org"
(or mobile-org).


Why would you not want to set it to "Org"?

>
> Maybe it has something to do with my disabled sync settings: I don't
> sync to the Google cloud.

Aha, I think this is probably needed. I think I only get entries updated if
I enable syncing of the calendar (but you can decide what you sync with
google --- no need to sync everything, from email to contacts to ).



>
> I gave up and use MobileOrg mainly for capturing and (seldom)
> browsing my Org files for information.


-- 
Ramon Diaz-Uriarte
Department of Biochemistry, Lab B-25
Facultad de Medicina
Universidad Autónoma de Madrid 
Arzobispo Morcillo, 4
28029 Madrid
Spain

Phone: +34-91-497-2412

Email: rdia...@gmail.com
   ramon.d...@iib.uam.es

http://ligarto.org/rdiaz

Re: [O] MobileOrg does not sync with local Android calendar

[Karl Voit]

* cschr  wrote:
>
> I set up MobileOrg and it now shows the appointments from my emacs diary and
> my orgmode agenda. But nothing shows in my local android calendar, although
> I configured MobileOrg to sync with the android calendar. Is this
> functionality known to work, at all, and are there any special preconditions
> ?   I tried with two different smartphones - a Sony Xperia Pro with Android
> 4.0.4, and a Mobistel Cygnus with Android 4.4.2

Contrary to many mentions on the mailinglist, this feature never
worked at my side as well:

Nexus 5 with CyanogenMod 12.1-20150808-NIGHTLY-hammerhead (Android
5.1.1)

Current situation: in MobileOrg settings, I want to choose a
calendar which gets populated by MobileOrg. In the list of available
calendars I can choose whatever calendar I want but afterwards,
MobileOrg shows "Org" (the default one) as the selected calendar.

Maybe it has something to do with my disabled sync settings: I don't
sync to the Google cloud.

I gave up and use MobileOrg mainly for capturing and (seldom)
browsing my Org files for information.

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Re: [O] MobileOrg does not sync with local Android calendar

[Ramon Diaz-Uriarte]

On Sun, 31-01-2016, at 13:36, Eric S Fraga  wrote:
> On Sunday, 31 Jan 2016 at 08:42, cschr wrote:
>> Hi
>>
>> I set up MobileOrg and it now shows the appointments from my emacs
>> diary and my orgmode agenda. But nothing shows in my local android
>> calendar, although I configured MobileOrg to sync with the android
>> calendar. Is this functionality known to work, at all, and are there
>> any special preconditions ?   I tried with two different smartphones
>> – a Sony Xperia Pro with Android 4.0.4, and a Mobistel Cygnus with
>> Android 4.4.2
>>
>
> It syncs with my calendar on cyanogenmod latest nightly snapshot on a
> Nexus 4.  I've had no issues in this regard in a very long time.
>

It has also worked for me for a long time in several tablets/phones. Right
now it is working on two tablets (BQ edison 3 and Nexus 7) with stock
android 4.4 and a phone with stock android 5. It has worked in the past
with Android 4.1.




> I think what I am using is roughly equivalent to android 5.1?  Not
> entirely sure however but definitely well past 4.x versions.  Whether
> this is relevant or not is unclear!


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Re: [O] MobileOrg does not sync with local Android calendar

[Eric S Fraga]

On Sunday, 31 Jan 2016 at 08:42, cschr wrote:
> Hi
>
> I set up MobileOrg and it now shows the appointments from my emacs
> diary and my orgmode agenda. But nothing shows in my local android
> calendar, although I configured MobileOrg to sync with the android
> calendar. Is this functionality known to work, at all, and are there
> any special preconditions ?   I tried with two different smartphones
> – a Sony Xperia Pro with Android 4.0.4, and a Mobistel Cygnus with
> Android 4.4.2
>

It syncs with my calendar on cyanogenmod latest nightly snapshot on a
Nexus 4.  I've had no issues in this regard in a very long time.

I think what I am using is roughly equivalent to android 5.1?  Not
entirely sure however but definitely well past 4.x versions.  Whether
this is relevant or not is unclear!
-- 
: Eric S Fraga (0xFFFCF67D), Emacs 25.0.50.1, Org release_8.3.3-497-gc74b99

[O] MobileOrg does not sync with local Android calendar

[cschr]

Hi

 

I set up MobileOrg and it now shows the appointments from my emacs diary and
my orgmode agenda. But nothing shows in my local android calendar, although
I configured MobileOrg to sync with the android calendar. Is this
functionality known to work, at all, and are there any special preconditions
?   I tried with two different smartphones - a Sony Xperia Pro with Android
4.0.4, and a Mobistel Cygnus with Android 4.4.2

 

Many thanks

Regards - Chris

Re: [O] MobileOrg

[Peter Davis]

dean  writes:

> On 11/22/15 09:52, Peter Davis wrote:
>> dean  writes:
>> 
>> Ok, I think I understand now. I can define org-mobile-files to be files
>> or directories. I did not see this variable referenced in the doc on
>> mobileorg.ncogni.to/doc/ Apparently it just defaults to
>> org-agenda-files, which is fine for me. It means the three main
>> directories I'm using for org files will be rolled up into the mobile
>> directory for sync'ing. However, when I sync files back from the iPad, I
>> will have to manually tease any updates into the separate directories
>> where I want to edit them.
>
> Just to be sure,
>
> org-mobile-push copies all flies listed in org-mobile-files to
> org-mobile-directory and creates an index and checksum file.
>
> After you have made changes, you then use org-mobile-pull and that will
> pull any changes (from dropbox etc) into your original .org files. I
> think this is the main function of the index.org.
>
> No teasing required.

Aha! That's great. That means I really don't have to change my way of
working. 

> I saw mention earlier about the docs so I thought I should mention the
> official doc is quite good, it probably explains it better than me. Its
> in the appendix B:
>
> http://orgmode.org/manual/MobileOrg.html#MobileOrg

Yes, I will give this a thorough read. I naively assumed I could get by
just with the doc on n.cogni.to, but I needed a broader understanding of
the whole process.

>> 
>> Yes, very much. I think I understand now. Thank you!
>> 
>> -pd
>
> No probs, really hope we get it going for you, I love it (once I
> eventually got it going, which took a while - so i know your pain ;) )

Thanks again!
-pd

Re: [O] MobileOrg

[dean]

On 11/22/15 09:52, Peter Davis wrote:
> dean  writes:
> 
> Ok, I think I understand now. I can define org-mobile-files to be files
> or directories. I did not see this variable referenced in the doc on
> mobileorg.ncogni.to/doc/ Apparently it just defaults to
> org-agenda-files, which is fine for me. It means the three main
> directories I'm using for org files will be rolled up into the mobile
> directory for sync'ing. However, when I sync files back from the iPad, I
> will have to manually tease any updates into the separate directories
> where I want to edit them.

Just to be sure,

org-mobile-push copies all flies listed in org-mobile-files to
org-mobile-directory and creates an index and checksum file.

After you have made changes, you then use org-mobile-pull and that will
pull any changes (from dropbox etc) into your original .org files. I
think this is the main function of the index.org.

No teasing required.

I saw mention earlier about the docs so I thought I should mention the
official doc is quite good, it probably explains it better than me. Its
in the appendix B:

http://orgmode.org/manual/MobileOrg.html#MobileOrg

> 
> Yes, very much. I think I understand now. Thank you!
> 
> -pd

No probs, really hope we get it going for you, I love it (once I
eventually got it going, which took a while - so i know your pain ;) )

Dean

Re: [O] MobileOrg

[Peter Davis]

dean  writes:

> On 11/22/15 08:52, Peter Davis wrote:
>
>> Thank you, Ed, but this raises a number of questions for me:
>> 
>>> I ran into this same problem. The source of the problem appears to be
>>> that MobileOrg really, really wants to create the directory
>>> ~/Dropbox/Apps/MobileOrg.  My workaround was to:
>>>
>>> 1. Delete any and all MobileOrg directories in Dropbox so you don't get
>>> confused as to which one is really the right one.
>> 
>> The only MobileOrg directory is the one created by the app, 
>> ~/Dropbox/apps/MobileOrg
>
> I think the point Ed is making is that you should make sure you only
> have 1 "mobileorg" directory, which seems to be true for you.
>
>> 
>>> 2. Bring up MobileOrg on your iPhone or iPad. Let it create the
>>> directory.
>> 
>> Ok, done, I guess.
>> 
>>> 3. Configure org on your desktop/laptop to export to
>>> ~/Dropbox/Apps/MobileOrg.
>> 
>> How? This doesn't seem to be any of the variables specified in the
>> instructions at http://mobileorg.ncogni.to/doc/getting-started/using-dropbox/
>> 
> (setq org-mobile-directory "~/Dropbox/Apps/MobileOrg")
>
>>> 4. Now export from your desktop via org.
>> 
>> Export what? Each file I want to sync? If I just save a copy of an org
>> file to ~/Dropbox/Apps/MobileOrg, will that have the same effect?
>
> No.
>
> export by issuing M-x org-mobile-push

Ah, I see the confusion. I think of "export" as doing C-c C-e  I did
trying using C-c C-e O o to export the org file I was editing, but I
think it just overwrote itself.

> MobileOrg needs index.org and checksums.dat which the above function
> should create from org-mobile-files.
>> 
>>> 5. You should now be able to sync on your mobile device.
>>>
>>> Note that is you want to sync to multiple mobile devices you need to
>>> repeat steps 1 and 2 for each device before you do anything from org on
>>> your desktop. Each of the MobileOrg instances will create the target
>>> directory when it initializes.
>> 
>> I'm confused. All my .org files are already in Dropbox, sync'ed across a
>> number of different machines, so the directory structures and contents
>> should be identical (once Dropbox syncs them.)
>
> I use 2 separate folders: 1 for my org files and another for MobileOrg
> files, just to make my life easier and then I don't have to let
> MobileOrg near my org files. If I'm ever in doubt I can wipe the
> MobileOrg folder and recreate all it's files with org-mobile-push.

Ok, I think I understand now. I can define org-mobile-files to be files
or directories. I did not see this variable referenced in the doc on
mobileorg.ncogni.to/doc/ Apparently it just defaults to
org-agenda-files, which is fine for me. It means the three main
directories I'm using for org files will be rolled up into the mobile
directory for sync'ing. However, when I sync files back from the iPad, I
will have to manually tease any updates into the separate directories
where I want to edit them.


>
>> Thank you,
>> -pd
>
> Hope this helps,
> Dean

Yes, very much. I think I understand now. Thank you!

-pd

Re: [O] MobileOrg

[John Hendy]

On Sat, Nov 21, 2015 at 5:24 PM, Peter Davis  wrote:
> John Hendy  writes:
>
>> On Sat, Nov 21, 2015 at 9:42 AM, Peter Davis  wrote:
>>>
>>> On Fri, Nov 20, 2015, at 03:58 PM, dean wrote:
 On 11/21/15 00:14, Peter Davis wrote:
 Hi pd,

 > I'm just starting out with MobileOrg, using Dropbox, but I'm confused by 
 > the setup instructions. I've gotten the app linked to my
 > Dropbox account, but the next step in the setup instructions 
 >  involve
 > setting up some emacs stuff on my "local system." My question is: 
 > *Which* local system? I have several sync'ed to Dropbox. Is the
 > mobile app going to require a single point of contact?
>>
>> Well, to my knowledge, mobile-org isn't meant to function as a way to
>> sync a bunch of emacs/org setups, ...
>
>
> Yes, that is the function of Dropbox. In my setup, I have org files in
> several directories within the ~/Dropbox/... tree. What I failed to
> understand earlier is that MobileOrg syncs with one and only one
> directory, so when I'm on a desk/laptop machine, I have to either edit
> directly in ~/Dropbox/Apps/MobileOrg/, or use org-mobile-push to copy
> all my files, in their current state, to that directory. That was the
> piece I missed.
>
>> ... so yes. You'd have one primary
>> system with your files to sync, you'd push to Dropbox from that
>> system, and the changes would get picked up from the phone.
>
> All of my .org files are already in the ~/Dropbox tree, but in various
> directories.
>

Understood. You need to tell Emacs about these so it can create a
separate directory with, essentially, clones of all of these files for
MobileOrg to read. It doesn't read them directly from your org dir,
but rather copies them into whatever you set with
=org-mobile-directory=.

>> Changes/additions from the phone are not automatic, to my knowledge.
>> These get put in the file pointed to by =org-mobile-inbox-for-pull=,
>> which you can then re-file or whatever into your main org files. You
>> could certainly sync various files with Dropbox on several systems,
>> re-create the same local mobileorg setup on said systems, edit them
>> from the Dropbox folder and invoke org-mobile-push from that system.
>> This will use Dropbox to sync the local file since it's under Dropbox
>> control, and also update it for your phone.
>>
 >

 Im fairly new to emacs and mobileorg, so im no expert here but...
 I believe Mobile org will be using your dropbox folder as its single
 point of contact.
 For example your workflow would be:
 - Create/edit notes/todo's on your phone
 - sync the app (which should save to dropbox)
 - Open emacs on your pc, issue org-mobile-pull
 - This should add your edits to your org files on your pc

 For the other direction:
 - Edit org files on your pc, issue org-mobile-push
 - sync on the app should import your edits into the app

 Im assuming you have a dropbox daemon taking care of the syncing in this
 process.

 This should be the same no matter how many pc's/emacs you use.
 Does this help answer your question?

>>>
>>> Thanks, Dean.  Actually, I can't even sync mobileorg. When I try
>>> (Pressing the sync button in the upper right corner), I get:
>>>
>>
>> Well, like my comments on your subtree export thread, no one can
>> diagnose what they can't reproduce. You've literally supplied no
>> information about what you've done.
>
> The errors I encountered were all in MobileOrg, so there was no
> information to supply other than the message that MobileOrg displayed,
> which I did include.

Understood with respect to that part, but as I think you get now,
MobileOrg can't function independent of setting up some things in
.emacs locally. Since the manual contains information on these
settings, and both the IOS and android app sites list .emacs settings
(well, the android version points one right to the manual in the
"Initial Setup" section) it didn't dawn on me that someone would point
MobileOrg to Dropbox without any local actions. In this case, I guess
it was a case where you actually didn't do anything locally but I
thought you omitted it. Sorry about that.

>
>> Did you set any of the variables
>> described in the manual? What are they set to?
>
> As I understood it, the exchange between MobileOrg and Dropbox is
> independent of any one particular machine and it's emacs setup, so the
> variables seemed irrelevant.

I see, though it's still hard for me to wrap my head around. The IOS
site lists the bullet:

- You should edit your Org-mode configuration to contain:
[lists the relevant variable settings]
- After restarting emacs/reparsing your configuration, run
org-mobile-push. This will copy your Org files to
~/Dropbox/Apps/MobileOrg, which is where MobileOrg will read from.
- Go back to MobileOrg and click on the Outlines tab at the bottom,
then click the Sync butto

Re: [O] MobileOrg

[dean]

On 11/22/15 08:52, Peter Davis wrote:

> Thank you, Ed, but this raises a number of questions for me:
> 
>> I ran into this same problem. The source of the problem appears to be
>> that MobileOrg really, really wants to create the directory
>> ~/Dropbox/Apps/MobileOrg.  My workaround was to:
>>
>> 1. Delete any and all MobileOrg directories in Dropbox so you don't get
>> confused as to which one is really the right one.
> 
> The only MobileOrg directory is the one created by the app, 
> ~/Dropbox/apps/MobileOrg

I think the point Ed is making is that you should make sure you only
have 1 "mobileorg" directory, which seems to be true for you.

> 
>> 2. Bring up MobileOrg on your iPhone or iPad. Let it create the
>> directory.
> 
> Ok, done, I guess.
> 
>> 3. Configure org on your desktop/laptop to export to
>> ~/Dropbox/Apps/MobileOrg.
> 
> How? This doesn't seem to be any of the variables specified in the
> instructions at http://mobileorg.ncogni.to/doc/getting-started/using-dropbox/
> 
(setq org-mobile-directory "~/Dropbox/Apps/MobileOrg")

>> 4. Now export from your desktop via org.
> 
> Export what? Each file I want to sync? If I just save a copy of an org
> file to ~/Dropbox/Apps/MobileOrg, will that have the same effect?

No.

export by issuing M-x org-mobile-push
MobileOrg needs index.org and checksums.dat which the above function
should create from org-mobile-files.
> 
>> 5. You should now be able to sync on your mobile device.
>>
>> Note that is you want to sync to multiple mobile devices you need to
>> repeat steps 1 and 2 for each device before you do anything from org on
>> your desktop. Each of the MobileOrg instances will create the target
>> directory when it initializes.
> 
> I'm confused. All my .org files are already in Dropbox, sync'ed across a
> number of different machines, so the directory structures and contents
> should be identical (once Dropbox syncs them.)

I use 2 separate folders: 1 for my org files and another for MobileOrg
files, just to make my life easier and then I don't have to let
MobileOrg near my org files. If I'm ever in doubt I can wipe the
MobileOrg folder and recreate all it's files with org-mobile-push.

> Thank you,
> -pd

Hope this helps,
Dean

Re: [O] MobileOrg

[John Hendy]

On Sat, Nov 21, 2015 at 4:52 PM, Peter Davis  wrote:
> Ed Hirgelt  writes:
>
>> On Sat, 21 Nov 2015 10:42:24 -0500
>> Peter Davis  wrote:
>>
>>>
>>> On Fri, Nov 20, 2015, at 03:58 PM, dean wrote:
>>> > On 11/21/15 00:14, Peter Davis wrote:
>>> > Hi pd,
>>> >
>>> > > I'm just starting out with MobileOrg, using Dropbox, but I'm
>>> > > confused by the setup instructions. I've gotten the app linked to
>>> > > my Dropbox account, but the next step in the setup instructions
>>> > > 
>>> > > involve setting up some emacs stuff on my "local system." My
>>> > > question is: *Which* local system? I have several sync'ed to
>>> > > Dropbox. Is the mobile app going to require a single point of
>>> > > contact?
>>> > >
>>> >
>>> > Im fairly new to emacs and mobileorg, so im no expert here but...
>>> > I believe Mobile org will be using your dropbox folder as its single
>>> > point of contact.
>>> > For example your workflow would be:
>>> > - Create/edit notes/todo's on your phone
>>> > - sync the app (which should save to dropbox)
>>> > - Open emacs on your pc, issue org-mobile-pull
>>> > - This should add your edits to your org files on your pc
>>> >
>>> > For the other direction:
>>> > - Edit org files on your pc, issue org-mobile-push
>>> > - sync on the app should import your edits into the app
>>> >
>>> > Im assuming you have a dropbox daemon taking care of the syncing in
>>> > this process.
>>> >
>>> > This should be the same no matter how many pc's/emacs you use.
>>> > Does this help answer your question?
>>> >
>>>
>>> Thanks, Dean.  Actually, I can't even sync mobileorg. When I try
>>> (Pressing the sync button in the upper right corner), I get:
>>>
>>>
>>> *Error downloading checksums*
>>>
>>> An error was encountered while downloading checksums.dat from the
>>> server. The file isn't required, but the error received was unusual.
>>> The error was:
>>>
>>> Unexpected error
>>>
>>>
>>> I don't know what that's about, but I can't get past It.
>>>
>
> Thank you, Ed, but this raises a number of questions for me:
>
>>
>> I ran into this same problem. The source of the problem appears to be
>> that MobileOrg really, really wants to create the directory
>> ~/Dropbox/Apps/MobileOrg.  My workaround was to:
>>
>> 1. Delete any and all MobileOrg directories in Dropbox so you don't get
>> confused as to which one is really the right one.
>
> The only MobileOrg directory is the one created by the app, 
> ~/Dropbox/apps/MobileOrg
>
>> 2. Bring up MobileOrg on your iPhone or iPad. Let it create the
>> directory.
>
> Ok, done, I guess.
>
>> 3. Configure org on your desktop/laptop to export to
>> ~/Dropbox/Apps/MobileOrg.
>
> How? This doesn't seem to be any of the variables specified in the
> instructions at http://mobileorg.ncogni.to/doc/getting-started/using-dropbox/

It's on the front page:

#+begin_quote

;; Set to the location of your Org files on your local system
(setq org-directory "~/org")
;; Set to the name of the file where new notes will be stored
(setq org-mobile-inbox-for-pull "~/org/flagged.org")
;; Set to /MobileOrg.
(setq org-mobile-directory "~/Dropbox/Apps/MobileOrg")

#+end_quote

While you'd have to read the org mode manual to have it completely
spelled out, from inference it's =org-mobile-directory= that gets
pointed to ~/Dropbox/Apps/MobileOrg. Have you read this?
- http://orgmode.org/manual/MobileOrg.html

>From the section on pushing:

#+begin_quote

This operation copies all files currently listed in org-mobile-files
to the directory org-mobile-directory. By default this list contains
all agenda files (as listed in org-agenda-files), but additional files
can be included by customizing org-mobile-files. File names will be
staged with paths relative to org-directory, so all files should be
inside this directory1.

#+end_quote

>
>> 4. Now export from your desktop via org.
>
> Export what? Each file I want to sync? If I just save a copy of an org
> file to ~/Dropbox/Apps/MobileOrg, will that have the same effect?
>

See above re. =org-mobile-files=

>> 5. You should now be able to sync on your mobile device.
>>
>> Note that is you want to sync to multiple mobile devices you need to
>> repeat steps 1 and 2 for each device before you do anything from org on
>> your desktop. Each of the MobileOrg instances will create the target
>> directory when it initializes.
>
> I'm confused. All my .org files are already in Dropbox, sync'ed across a
> number of different machines, so the directory structures and contents
> should be identical (once Dropbox syncs them.)

Agreed, but Emacs on each machine doesn't know anything about that
directory and that you want to use mobile-org with it. Thus, you need
the config file settings from the front page of the MobileOrg site on
each local machine. They will all push whatever files you've specified
in =org-mobile-files= (or anything in your agenda file list if not
specified) to =org-mobile-directory= (which is
~

Re: [O] MobileOrg

[Peter Davis]

John Hendy  writes:

> On Sat, Nov 21, 2015 at 9:42 AM, Peter Davis  wrote:
>>
>> On Fri, Nov 20, 2015, at 03:58 PM, dean wrote:
>>> On 11/21/15 00:14, Peter Davis wrote:
>>> Hi pd,
>>>
>>> > I'm just starting out with MobileOrg, using Dropbox, but I'm confused by 
>>> > the setup instructions. I've gotten the app linked to my
>>> > Dropbox account, but the next step in the setup instructions 
>>> >  involve
>>> > setting up some emacs stuff on my "local system." My question is: *Which* 
>>> > local system? I have several sync'ed to Dropbox. Is the
>>> > mobile app going to require a single point of contact?
>
> Well, to my knowledge, mobile-org isn't meant to function as a way to
> sync a bunch of emacs/org setups, ...


Yes, that is the function of Dropbox. In my setup, I have org files in
several directories within the ~/Dropbox/... tree. What I failed to
understand earlier is that MobileOrg syncs with one and only one
directory, so when I'm on a desk/laptop machine, I have to either edit
directly in ~/Dropbox/Apps/MobileOrg/, or use org-mobile-push to copy
all my files, in their current state, to that directory. That was the
piece I missed.

> ... so yes. You'd have one primary
> system with your files to sync, you'd push to Dropbox from that
> system, and the changes would get picked up from the phone.

All of my .org files are already in the ~/Dropbox tree, but in various
directories.

> Changes/additions from the phone are not automatic, to my knowledge.
> These get put in the file pointed to by =org-mobile-inbox-for-pull=,
> which you can then re-file or whatever into your main org files. You
> could certainly sync various files with Dropbox on several systems,
> re-create the same local mobileorg setup on said systems, edit them
> from the Dropbox folder and invoke org-mobile-push from that system.
> This will use Dropbox to sync the local file since it's under Dropbox
> control, and also update it for your phone.
>
>>> >
>>>
>>> Im fairly new to emacs and mobileorg, so im no expert here but...
>>> I believe Mobile org will be using your dropbox folder as its single
>>> point of contact.
>>> For example your workflow would be:
>>> - Create/edit notes/todo's on your phone
>>> - sync the app (which should save to dropbox)
>>> - Open emacs on your pc, issue org-mobile-pull
>>> - This should add your edits to your org files on your pc
>>>
>>> For the other direction:
>>> - Edit org files on your pc, issue org-mobile-push
>>> - sync on the app should import your edits into the app
>>>
>>> Im assuming you have a dropbox daemon taking care of the syncing in this
>>> process.
>>>
>>> This should be the same no matter how many pc's/emacs you use.
>>> Does this help answer your question?
>>>
>>
>> Thanks, Dean.  Actually, I can't even sync mobileorg. When I try
>> (Pressing the sync button in the upper right corner), I get:
>>
>
> Well, like my comments on your subtree export thread, no one can
> diagnose what they can't reproduce. You've literally supplied no
> information about what you've done.

The errors I encountered were all in MobileOrg, so there was no
information to supply other than the message that MobileOrg displayed,
which I did include.

> Did you set any of the variables
> described in the manual? What are they set to? 

As I understood it, the exchange between MobileOrg and Dropbox is
independent of any one particular machine and it's emacs setup, so the
variables seemed irrelevant.

> Did you run =M-x
> org-moble-push=?

No, I overlooked that step.

>Do you have the Dropbox daemon on so that the changes
> were pushed to the cloud?

Yes.

> You're doing yourself a serious disservice
> by not posting full details and reproducible examples. 1) you're going
> to get *vastly* less responses because people don't even know what to
> make of the post and won't try, and 2) people will get frustrated
> making a suggestion to one email (say, about directing you on how to
> use mobileorg) and meeting a response that's completely different (I
> can't get it to sync due to checksums.dat missing).

How is this response different? This *is* the problem I encountered in
trying to use MobileOrg.

> Basically, these
> detail lacking posts waste the time of others.

I do try to supply as much detail as I can, and I appreciate your and
others' efforts to help me unravel these problems. Thank you.

> I've been wanting to try mobileorg for some time so I took the time to
> go through the instructions from scratch. See attached pdf and .org
> file. I can't verify that mobileorg picks it up on my phone because
> Dropbox is down, but the created file structure in ~/Dropbox/MobileOrg
> looks sane. I'll try dropbox later to see if that part succeeds.
>
>
> John
>
>>
>> *Error downloading checksums*
>>
>> An error was encountered while downloading checksums.dat from the
>> server. The file isn't required, but the error received was unusual. The
>> error wa

Re: [O] MobileOrg

[Peter Davis]

Ed Hirgelt  writes:

> On Sat, 21 Nov 2015 10:42:24 -0500
> Peter Davis  wrote:
>
>>
>> On Fri, Nov 20, 2015, at 03:58 PM, dean wrote:
>> > On 11/21/15 00:14, Peter Davis wrote:
>> > Hi pd,
>> >
>> > > I'm just starting out with MobileOrg, using Dropbox, but I'm
>> > > confused by the setup instructions. I've gotten the app linked to
>> > > my Dropbox account, but the next step in the setup instructions
>> > > 
>> > > involve setting up some emacs stuff on my "local system." My
>> > > question is: *Which* local system? I have several sync'ed to
>> > > Dropbox. Is the mobile app going to require a single point of
>> > > contact?
>> > >
>> >
>> > Im fairly new to emacs and mobileorg, so im no expert here but...
>> > I believe Mobile org will be using your dropbox folder as its single
>> > point of contact.
>> > For example your workflow would be:
>> > - Create/edit notes/todo's on your phone
>> > - sync the app (which should save to dropbox)
>> > - Open emacs on your pc, issue org-mobile-pull
>> > - This should add your edits to your org files on your pc
>> >
>> > For the other direction:
>> > - Edit org files on your pc, issue org-mobile-push
>> > - sync on the app should import your edits into the app
>> >
>> > Im assuming you have a dropbox daemon taking care of the syncing in
>> > this process.
>> >
>> > This should be the same no matter how many pc's/emacs you use.
>> > Does this help answer your question?
>> >
>>
>> Thanks, Dean.  Actually, I can't even sync mobileorg. When I try
>> (Pressing the sync button in the upper right corner), I get:
>>
>>
>> *Error downloading checksums*
>>
>> An error was encountered while downloading checksums.dat from the
>> server. The file isn't required, but the error received was unusual.
>> The error was:
>>
>> Unexpected error
>>
>>
>> I don't know what that's about, but I can't get past It.
>>

Thank you, Ed, but this raises a number of questions for me:

>
> I ran into this same problem. The source of the problem appears to be
> that MobileOrg really, really wants to create the directory
> ~/Dropbox/Apps/MobileOrg.  My workaround was to:
>
> 1. Delete any and all MobileOrg directories in Dropbox so you don't get
> confused as to which one is really the right one.

The only MobileOrg directory is the one created by the app, 
~/Dropbox/apps/MobileOrg

> 2. Bring up MobileOrg on your iPhone or iPad. Let it create the
> directory.

Ok, done, I guess.

> 3. Configure org on your desktop/laptop to export to
> ~/Dropbox/Apps/MobileOrg.

How? This doesn't seem to be any of the variables specified in the
instructions at http://mobileorg.ncogni.to/doc/getting-started/using-dropbox/

> 4. Now export from your desktop via org.

Export what? Each file I want to sync? If I just save a copy of an org
file to ~/Dropbox/Apps/MobileOrg, will that have the same effect?

> 5. You should now be able to sync on your mobile device.
>
> Note that is you want to sync to multiple mobile devices you need to
> repeat steps 1 and 2 for each device before you do anything from org on
> your desktop. Each of the MobileOrg instances will create the target
> directory when it initializes.

I'm confused. All my .org files are already in Dropbox, sync'ed across a
number of different machines, so the directory structures and contents
should be identical (once Dropbox syncs them.)

Thank you,
-pd

Re: [O] MobileOrg

[dean]

On 11/22/15 07:17, John Hendy wrote:
> On Sat, Nov 21, 2015 at 1:07 PM, Ed Hirgelt  wrote:
>> On Sat, 21 Nov 2015 10:42:24 -0500
> 
>>
>> 3. Configure org on your desktop/laptop to export to
>> ~/Dropbox/Apps/MobileOrg.
> 
> Dropbox is back, and I was successful doing:
> 
> - $ mkdir ~/Dropbox/mobile-org
> - added the following to min-config:
> 
> (setq org-mobile-directory "~/Dropbox/mobile-org")
> 
> - M-x org-mobile-push
> 
> - When signing into mobile-org on phone the first time (choosing
> Dropbox sync), it prompted me for which folder to use. I chose
> mobile-org, and it picked it up.
> 
> Unfortunately, I seem to get blank files in mobile-org on my phone.
> They're correct (populated with headlines/content) in Dropbox, but my
> phone shows the attached. Not sure how to help from here.
> 

I think i encountered this issue when first trying mobileOrg and did get
it going.

Maybe check the instructions here:
http://nakkaya.com/2010/03/19/org-mode-in-your-pocket-setting-up-mobileorg/

I think my issue was fixed with this line:
(setq org-mobile-files (quote ("/path/to/org/file.org")))

Good luck,
Deanq

Re: [O] MobileOrg

[Ed Hirgelt]

On Sat, 21 Nov 2015 10:42:24 -0500
Peter Davis  wrote:

>
> On Fri, Nov 20, 2015, at 03:58 PM, dean wrote:
> > On 11/21/15 00:14, Peter Davis wrote:
> > Hi pd,
> >
> > > I'm just starting out with MobileOrg, using Dropbox, but I'm
> > > confused by the setup instructions. I've gotten the app linked to
> > > my Dropbox account, but the next step in the setup instructions
> > > 
> > > involve setting up some emacs stuff on my "local system." My
> > > question is: *Which* local system? I have several sync'ed to
> > > Dropbox. Is the mobile app going to require a single point of
> > > contact?
> > >
> >
> > Im fairly new to emacs and mobileorg, so im no expert here but...
> > I believe Mobile org will be using your dropbox folder as its single
> > point of contact.
> > For example your workflow would be:
> > - Create/edit notes/todo's on your phone
> > - sync the app (which should save to dropbox)
> > - Open emacs on your pc, issue org-mobile-pull
> > - This should add your edits to your org files on your pc
> >
> > For the other direction:
> > - Edit org files on your pc, issue org-mobile-push
> > - sync on the app should import your edits into the app
> >
> > Im assuming you have a dropbox daemon taking care of the syncing in
> > this process.
> >
> > This should be the same no matter how many pc's/emacs you use.
> > Does this help answer your question?
> >
>
> Thanks, Dean.  Actually, I can't even sync mobileorg. When I try
> (Pressing the sync button in the upper right corner), I get:
>
>
> *Error downloading checksums*
>
> An error was encountered while downloading checksums.dat from the
> server. The file isn't required, but the error received was unusual.
> The error was:
>
> Unexpected error
>
>
> I don't know what that's about, but I can't get past It.
>
> Thanks,
> -pd
>
>
>   Peter Davis
>   www.techcurmudgeon.com
>   www.timebums.com
>
>

I ran into this same problem. The source of the problem appears to be
that MobileOrg really, really wants to create the directory
~/Dropbox/Apps/MobileOrg.  My workaround was to:

1. Delete any and all MobileOrg directories in Dropbox so you don't get
confused as to which one is really the right one.

2. Bring up MobileOrg on your iPhone or iPad. Let it create the
directory.

3. Configure org on your desktop/laptop to export to
~/Dropbox/Apps/MobileOrg.

4. Now export from your desktop via org.

5. You should now be able to sync on your mobile device.

Note that is you want to sync to multiple mobile devices you need to
repeat steps 1 and 2 for each device before you do anything from org on
your desktop. Each of the MobileOrg instances will create the target
directory when it initializes.

This could be avoided if there were a way in MobileOrg to set the
synchronization directory. But, at least it is still possible to get
all this to work.

Good luck and happy org-ing.
Ed

Re: [O] MobileOrg

[John Hendy]

On Sat, Nov 21, 2015 at 9:42 AM, Peter Davis  wrote:
>
> On Fri, Nov 20, 2015, at 03:58 PM, dean wrote:
>> On 11/21/15 00:14, Peter Davis wrote:
>> Hi pd,
>>
>> > I'm just starting out with MobileOrg, using Dropbox, but I'm confused by 
>> > the setup instructions. I've gotten the app linked to my
>> > Dropbox account, but the next step in the setup instructions 
>> >  involve
>> > setting up some emacs stuff on my "local system." My question is: *Which* 
>> > local system? I have several sync'ed to Dropbox. Is the
>> > mobile app going to require a single point of contact?

Well, to my knowledge, mobile-org isn't meant to function as a way to
sync a bunch of emacs/org setups, so yes. You'd have one primary
system with your files to sync, you'd push to Dropbox from that
system, and the changes would get picked up from the phone.
Changes/additions from the phone are not automatic, to my knowledge.
These get put in the file pointed to by =org-mobile-inbox-for-pull=,
which you can then re-file or whatever into your main org files. You
could certainly sync various files with Dropbox on several systems,
re-create the same local mobileorg setup on said systems, edit them
from the Dropbox folder and invoke org-mobile-push from that system.
This will use Dropbox to sync the local file since it's under Dropbox
control, and also update it for your phone.

>> >
>>
>> Im fairly new to emacs and mobileorg, so im no expert here but...
>> I believe Mobile org will be using your dropbox folder as its single
>> point of contact.
>> For example your workflow would be:
>> - Create/edit notes/todo's on your phone
>> - sync the app (which should save to dropbox)
>> - Open emacs on your pc, issue org-mobile-pull
>> - This should add your edits to your org files on your pc
>>
>> For the other direction:
>> - Edit org files on your pc, issue org-mobile-push
>> - sync on the app should import your edits into the app
>>
>> Im assuming you have a dropbox daemon taking care of the syncing in this
>> process.
>>
>> This should be the same no matter how many pc's/emacs you use.
>> Does this help answer your question?
>>
>
> Thanks, Dean.  Actually, I can't even sync mobileorg. When I try
> (Pressing the sync button in the upper right corner), I get:
>

Well, like my comments on your subtree export thread, no one can
diagnose what they can't reproduce. You've literally supplied no
information about what you've done. Did you set any of the variables
described in the manual? What are they set to? Did you run =M-x
org-moble-push=? Do you have the Dropbox daemon on so that the changes
were pushed to the cloud? You're doing yourself a serious disservice
by not posting full details and reproducible examples. 1) you're going
to get *vastly* less responses because people don't even know what to
make of the post and won't try, and 2) people will get frustrated
making a suggestion to one email (say, about directing you on how to
use mobileorg) and meeting a response that's completely different (I
can't get it to sync due to checksums.dat missing). Basically, these
detail lacking posts waste the time of others.

I've been wanting to try mobileorg for some time so I took the time to
go through the instructions from scratch. See attached pdf and .org
file. I can't verify that mobileorg picks it up on my phone because
Dropbox is down, but the created file structure in ~/Dropbox/MobileOrg
looks sane. I'll try dropbox later to see if that part succeeds.


John

>
> *Error downloading checksums*
>
> An error was encountered while downloading checksums.dat from the
> server. The file isn't required, but the error received was unusual. The
> error was:
>
> Unexpected error
>
>
> I don't know what that's about, but I can't get past it.
>
> Thanks,
> -pd
>
>
>   Peter Davis
>   www.techcurmudgeon.com
>   www.timebums.com
>


instructions.org
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instructions.pdf
Description: Adobe PDF document

Re: [O] MobileOrg

[Peter Davis]

On Fri, Nov 20, 2015, at 03:58 PM, dean wrote:
> On 11/21/15 00:14, Peter Davis wrote:
> Hi pd,
> 
> > I'm just starting out with MobileOrg, using Dropbox, but I'm confused by 
> > the setup instructions. I've gotten the app linked to my
> > Dropbox account, but the next step in the setup instructions 
> >  involve
> > setting up some emacs stuff on my "local system." My question is: *Which* 
> > local system? I have several sync'ed to Dropbox. Is the
> > mobile app going to require a single point of contact?
> > 
> 
> Im fairly new to emacs and mobileorg, so im no expert here but...
> I believe Mobile org will be using your dropbox folder as its single
> point of contact.
> For example your workflow would be:
> - Create/edit notes/todo's on your phone
> - sync the app (which should save to dropbox)
> - Open emacs on your pc, issue org-mobile-pull
> - This should add your edits to your org files on your pc
> 
> For the other direction:
> - Edit org files on your pc, issue org-mobile-push
> - sync on the app should import your edits into the app
> 
> Im assuming you have a dropbox daemon taking care of the syncing in this
> process.
> 
> This should be the same no matter how many pc's/emacs you use.
> Does this help answer your question?
> 

Thanks, Dean.  Actually, I can't even sync mobileorg. When I try
(Pressing the sync button in the upper right corner), I get:


*Error downloading checksums*

An error was encountered while downloading checksums.dat from the
server. The file isn't required, but the error received was unusual. The
error was:

Unexpected error


I don't know what that's about, but I can't get past it.

Thanks,
-pd


  Peter Davis
  www.techcurmudgeon.com
  www.timebums.com

Re: [O] MobileOrg

[dean]

On 11/21/15 00:14, Peter Davis wrote:
Hi pd,

> I'm just starting out with MobileOrg, using Dropbox, but I'm confused by the 
> setup instructions. I've gotten the app linked to my
> Dropbox account, but the next step in the setup instructions 
>  involve
> setting up some emacs stuff on my "local system." My question is: *Which* 
> local system? I have several sync'ed to Dropbox. Is the
> mobile app going to require a single point of contact?
> 

Im fairly new to emacs and mobileorg, so im no expert here but...
I believe Mobile org will be using your dropbox folder as its single
point of contact.
For example your workflow would be:
- Create/edit notes/todo's on your phone
- sync the app (which should save to dropbox)
- Open emacs on your pc, issue org-mobile-pull
- This should add your edits to your org files on your pc

For the other direction:
- Edit org files on your pc, issue org-mobile-push
- sync on the app should import your edits into the app

Im assuming you have a dropbox daemon taking care of the syncing in this
process.

This should be the same no matter how many pc's/emacs you use.
Does this help answer your question?

Cheers,
Dean

[O] MobileOrg

[Peter Davis]

I'm just starting out with MobileOrg, using Dropbox, but I'm confused by the 
setup instructions. I've gotten the app linked to my
Dropbox account, but the next step in the setup instructions 
 involve
setting up some emacs stuff on my "local system." My question is: *Which* local 
system? I have several sync'ed to Dropbox. Is the
mobile app going to require a single point of contact?

Thanks,
-pd

[O] mobileorg with custom agenda does not display times

[David Belohrad]

Dear All,

when doing org-mobile-push, i'm using custom agenda to select what I want to 
export. The org-agenda-custom-commands is set as follows:

("P" "Quarterly agenda view for org-mobile-push"
((agenda "" ((org-agenda-ndays 90)
((org-agenda-files '("~/org/diary-beesknees.org" 
"~/org/diary-pcbe13433.org" "~/org/mobile_information.org" "cern_guide.org"))
(org-agenda-use-time-grid t)



When I do org-mobile-push, and sync with mobileorg, all the information is 
present under Agenda Views/Quarterly agenda view for org-mobile-push>90 
days-agenda. When opened, it nicely displays all the dates for the 90day span, 
and when entering into a particular date, I can see the items I want to see.

However, no matter what I do, I cannot force it to display homehow a time of 
the events when opened particular date. So in order to inspect at what time a 
given event happens I need to open it all the daily events and then read the 
timestamps. Not too fancy! I'd like to rather display the time span of all the 
daily events in the same way as agenda when 'daily' view with grid is displayed.

Is this possible to setup? Or any other alternatives?

thanks

david

[O] MobileOrg PGP Encryption

[Tobias Frischholz]

Today I’ve installed MobileOrg for iOS. Looks like this app needs a total UI 
overhaul (looking like iOS6) :(

Unfortunately, all my org files are PGP encrypted, but MobileOrg only offers me 
password decryption. So there’s no chance of accessing my files?

Best regards,
Tobias Frischholz



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Re: [O] MobileOrg documentation?

[root]

Xebar Saram  writes:

> just tried gnuroot. its very nice but i think would be useful for rare
> cases where you really need the full power of emacs/org since its a
> bit cumbersome to fire the whole debian>emacs>open a org note just to
> enter a quick capture :). do you have any tips on speeding things up
> etc?

With Lil'Debi, I had an Irssi-Connectbot shortcut that would connect to
the running Debian, attach an already running screen session, and switch
to the emacs screen. I don't yet have an equivalent shortcut for
Gnuroot. My first thought is just to leave a screen session with Emacss
running in it all the time, and use the notification to swich to
it. Then use org-capture.

> P.S could you share your color scheme from the screenshot :)

It is leuven-theme, available on Marmalade.

--
Jason

Re: [O] MobileOrg documentation?

[Eric S Fraga]

On Wednesday, 13 Aug 2014 at 08:26, Jason F. McBrayer wrote:

[...]

> Or, as is increasingly feasible in the last couple of years, running
> Emacs on your mobile device. On Android, GnuRoot is a quick and easy

Thanks for the pointer to GnuRoot.  Could be useful to have on my Nexus
7.  The keyboard you describe on your blog post is also very
interesting.

My solution to the problem of a truly mobile org (and gnus) was to buy
myself a little OpenPandora palmtop computer and install Debian on it!

eric
-- 
: Eric S Fraga (0xFFFCF67D), Emacs 24.4.50.1, Org release_8.3beta-237-gcc6aa4

Re: [O] MobileOrg documentation?

[Carlos Sosa]

Sean Escriva  writes:

> which will generate the site here: https://mobileorg.github.io/
>
> However I think it may be better for contributors to use something
> like this: https://github.com/cinsk/jekyll-org

There's a more up-to-date Jekyll plugin for org-mode that makes use of
org-ruby, and that's maintained by the same contributors. See:

https://github.com/eggcaker/jekyll-org

-- Carlos Sosa

Re: [O] MobileOrg documentation?

[Sean Escriva]

David Masterson  writes:

> John Hendy  writes:
>
>> Did you look at the docs?
>> - https://github.com/matburt/mobileorg-android/wiki/Documentation
>
> Unfortunately, this looks like Android documentation where I have an
> iPhone.

me too!

>
>> Unfortunately, looks like his images are borked at the moment. It's
>> been a while since I've used it, but you're saying there's not an
>> intuitive way to add a new heading? Can you just do "** something" (or
>> similar)?
>
> Doesn't seem to work.  The "** Something" gets treated as text for the
> previous heading.  I suspect that, although you type the "** Something"
> at the left margin, it gets indented as text under a heading should be
> which messes up the heading interpretation.
>
>> On Mon, Aug 4, 2014 at 11:26 PM, David Masterson  
>> wrote:
>>> There is not much to the MobileOrg documentation.  For instance, how do
>>> you 'add' a new heading to an outline?  Any examples around on how to
>>> use MobileOrg?
>
> Anyone using MobileOrg?

I use it still, fairly regularly.

I had started work on a new doc site using middleman here:
https://github.com/MobileOrg/mobileorg.github.io

which will generate the site here: https://mobileorg.github.io/

However I think it may be better for contributors to use something
like this: https://github.com/cinsk/jekyll-org

Unfortunately development _is_ split across platforms so there are
functional differences between android and ios. I'd love to see it
unified though.

-- 
-sean

Re: [O] MobileOrg documentation?

[Sean Escriva]

Christian Kruse  writes:

> Hi,
>
> Am 07.08.14 09:13, schrieb David Masterson:
>> Anyone using MobileOrg?
>
> I use the iPhone version, via WebDAV. For exactly two things:
> capturing TODOs and having my todo list at hand when I need it. It
> works pretty well for these two tasks, gladly.

As the maintainer, this is how I use it generally. I'd love to support
other usage patterns though.

>
> Best regards,
>
> -- 
> Christian Kruse
> http://ck.kennt-wayne.de/
>
>

-- 
-sean

Re: [O] MobileOrg

[Sean Escriva]

Xebar Saram  writes:

> Shame
>
> ive been using it for the past few months (took me a loong time to setup as
> the documentation is really hard to follow). i really would love to see
> mobile org developed as having my orgmode data on the go is really crucial
>
> best
>
> Z
>
>
> On Wed, Aug 6, 2014 at 7:33 PM, Alexis  wrote:
>
>>
>> Subhan Michael Tindall writes:
>>
>> > There’s also a few areas I’d like to do or see some enhancements on
>> > the mobile end, for example handling display or edit of properties is
>> > very limited
>>
>> *nod* i started to address this issue with this pull request:
>>
>> https://github.com/matburt/mobileorg-android/pull/434
>>
>> which got merged  But given the lack of commits and releases more
>> generally, i've been reticent to work on this further.

I am the iOS maintainer. I haven't heard from Matburt for a bit so I
can't comment there.

He was very active for a while.

>>
>>
>> Alexis.
>>
>>

-- 
-sean

Re: [O] MobileOrg iOS status?? (Sean?)

[Sean Escriva]

David Masterson  writes:

> It appears that MobileOrg hasn't really moved in over a year.  In fact,
> the Changelog for MobileOrg stops at 1.5.1 where I am using 1.6.1, so it
> seems that things really are not up-to-date.  Looking in GitHub (which
> I'm not an expert on), it appears that development has split along OS
> lines.  What is the status of MobileOrg in general and, in particular,
> MobileOrg?  (Sean??)

That would be me. :)

Time contraints have kept me from doing what I would like, but if there
are users I can devote some time to at least getting it into shape with
the latest sdk.

> -- 
> David Masterson
> Programmer At Large
>
>

-- 
-sean

Re: [O] MobileOrg documentation?

[Xebar Saram]

Thx Jason

just tried gnuroot. its very nice but i think would be useful for rare
cases where you really need the full power of emacs/org since its a bit
cumbersome to fire the whole debian>emacs>open a org note just to enter a
quick capture :). do you have any tips on speeding things up etc?

anyway great tip

thx :)

P.S could you share your color scheme from the screenshot :)

Z


On Wed, Aug 13, 2014 at 3:26 PM, Jason F. McBrayer 
wrote:

> On 2014-08-08 10:38, jorge.alfaro-muri...@yale.edu wrote:
>
>  David Masterson  writes:
>>
>>> Not looking for complete org functionality in my phone -- just a
>>> reasonable ability to edit org outlines while I'm on the road.
>>>
>>
>  If you have access by ssh to a computer that is always on, then I
>>
>> recommend leaving an emacsclient open and using JuiceSSH of
>> ConnectBot for editing your org files on the go.
>>
>
> Or, as is increasingly feasible in the last couple of years, running
> Emacs on your mobile device. On Android, GnuRoot is a quick and easy
> solution for running Emacs along with git, ssh, hg, and anything else
> you might need for your org-mode workflow, and it doesn't even require
> a rooted device (I prefer using Lil'Debi for running Emacs, but it
> requires a rooted device and a bit more commitment).
>
> With a real Emacs on my device (recent screenshot [here][1]), I can
> just keep my hg-based syncing workflow that I'm used to from multiple
> desktops, rather than adding a new and more complex mobile syncing
> workflow. I'm not disparaging the MobileOrg-Android app, it looks
> great, and works great given the MobileOrg protocol it has to work
> with, but it's just not what I want to work with.
>
> [1]: http://www.carcosa.net/jason/blog/computing/emacs/
> messageease-2014-08-02.html
> --
> +---+
> | Jason F. McBrayer jmcb...@carcosa.net |
> | If someone conquers a thousand times a thousand others in |
> | battle, and someone else conquers himself, the latter one |
> | is the greatest of all conquerors. --- The Dhammapada |
>
>
>

Re: [O] MobileOrg documentation?

[Jason F. McBrayer]

On 2014-08-08 10:38, jorge.alfaro-muri...@yale.edu wrote:


David Masterson  writes:

Not looking for complete org functionality in my phone -- just a
reasonable ability to edit org outlines while I'm on the road.



If you have access by ssh to a computer that is always on, then I
recommend leaving an emacsclient open and using JuiceSSH of
ConnectBot for editing your org files on the go.


Or, as is increasingly feasible in the last couple of years, running
Emacs on your mobile device. On Android, GnuRoot is a quick and easy
solution for running Emacs along with git, ssh, hg, and anything else
you might need for your org-mode workflow, and it doesn't even require
a rooted device (I prefer using Lil'Debi for running Emacs, but it
requires a rooted device and a bit more commitment).

With a real Emacs on my device (recent screenshot [here][1]), I can
just keep my hg-based syncing workflow that I'm used to from multiple
desktops, rather than adding a new and more complex mobile syncing
workflow. I'm not disparaging the MobileOrg-Android app, it looks
great, and works great given the MobileOrg protocol it has to work
with, but it's just not what I want to work with.

[1]: 
http://www.carcosa.net/jason/blog/computing/emacs/messageease-2014-08-02.html

--
+---+
| Jason F. McBrayer jmcb...@carcosa.net |
| If someone conquers a thousand times a thousand others in |
| battle, and someone else conquers himself, the latter one |
| is the greatest of all conquerors. --- The Dhammapada |

[O] MobileOrg iOS status?? (Sean?)

[David Masterson]

It appears that MobileOrg hasn't really moved in over a year.  In fact,
the Changelog for MobileOrg stops at 1.5.1 where I am using 1.6.1, so it
seems that things really are not up-to-date.  Looking in GitHub (which
I'm not an expert on), it appears that development has split along OS
lines.  What is the status of MobileOrg in general and, in particular,
MobileOrg?  (Sean??)
-- 
David Masterson
Programmer At Large

Re: [O] MobileOrg documentation?

[Nick Dokos]

David Masterson  writes:

> jorge.alfaro-muri...@yale.edu (Jorge A. Alfaro-Murillo) writes:
>
>> Ken Mankoff writes: 
>>
>>> On iPhone, you cannot add sub-headings.
>>
>> Another good reason to ditch your iPhone and buy a Nexus =)
>>
>> Even when the Android and iPhone applications are different, the good
>> thing is that the org side (org-mobile.el) is not specific for the
>> iPhone or Android (or any external application that uses the same
>> conventions).
>>
>> Perhaps that is why the manual seems to new users so vague, they
>> expect that it will explain how to go over the phone installation as
>> well. But that is not the job of the org part, but that of the phone
>> application IMO.
>
> But, the Org part should, at least, point to the documentation of the
> phone part.  At the very least, provide a place for the phone part(s) to
> be documented on Worg and point there...

It does. There is an iOS pointer and an Android pointer in

(info "(org) Appendix B MobileOrg")

For iOS, it says:

,
| The iOS implementation (https://github.com/MobileOrg/) for the
| iPhone/iPod Touch/iPad series of devices, was started by Richard
| Moreland and is now in the hands Sean Escriva.
`

And if you follow that link, you'll get to another link

   http://mobileorg.ncogni.to/

which has a "Documentation" button - I didn't push the button but I hope
there is something substantive behind it.

-- 
Nick

Re: [O] MobileOrg documentation?

[David Masterson]

jorge.alfaro-muri...@yale.edu (Jorge A. Alfaro-Murillo) writes:

> Ken Mankoff writes: 
>
>> On iPhone, you cannot add sub-headings.
>
> Another good reason to ditch your iPhone and buy a Nexus =)
>
> Even when the Android and iPhone applications are different, the good
> thing is that the org side (org-mobile.el) is not specific for the
> iPhone or Android (or any external application that uses the same
> conventions).
>
> Perhaps that is why the manual seems to new users so vague, they
> expect that it will explain how to go over the phone installation as
> well. But that is not the job of the org part, but that of the phone
> application IMO.

But, the Org part should, at least, point to the documentation of the
phone part.  At the very least, provide a place for the phone part(s) to
be documented on Worg and point there...

-- 
David Masterson
Programmer At Large

Re: [O] MobileOrg documentation?

[Ken Mankoff]

Some code to auto-update Org when Mobile Org pushes:

http://kenmankoff.com/2012/08/17/emacs-org-mode-and-mobileorg-auto-sync/

  -k.


On Fri, Aug 8, 2014 at 5:15 PM, David Masterson 
wrote:

> jorge.alfaro-muri...@yale.edu (Jorge A. Alfaro-Murillo) writes:
>
> > David Masterson writes:
> >
> >> Hmmm.  Simple question (I think).  Can you edit outlines (at least
> >> somewhat) from MobileOrg?  For instance, can you add outline headers
> >> to your Org outline in MobileOrg?  Or is MobileOrg only useful for
> >> viewing Org outlines and capturing items to add to your outlines
> >> later?
> >
> > Yes.
> >
> > In MobileOrg of your phone: Settings, Synchronization, check Advanced
> > capture. Click over any headline and then use the capture button (the
> > circle with a plus inside). Write the new headline, save, and
> > synchronize.
>
> Hmmm.  Don't see this in MobileOrg for iOS.  I do see Settings,
> Settings, AutoCapture Mode, but not Advanced Capture.  Is this an
> example of two different code bases?  This is MobileOrg v1.6.1.
>
> > Afterwards run org-mobile-pull from your computer, the changes should be
> > there. At least it works for me under Android.
>
> Yes, I expected that, once you made a change in MobileOrg, you have to
> cycle over to Emacs Org via org-mobile-pu(sh|ll).
>
> --
> David Masterson
> Programmer At Large
>
>
>

Re: [O] MobileOrg documentation?

[David Masterson]

jorge.alfaro-muri...@yale.edu (Jorge A. Alfaro-Murillo) writes:

> David Masterson writes: 
>
>> Hmmm.  Simple question (I think).  Can you edit outlines (at least
>> somewhat) from MobileOrg?  For instance, can you add outline headers
>> to your Org outline in MobileOrg?  Or is MobileOrg only useful for
>> viewing Org outlines and capturing items to add to your outlines
>> later? 
>
> Yes.
>
> In MobileOrg of your phone: Settings, Synchronization, check Advanced
> capture. Click over any headline and then use the capture button (the
> circle with a plus inside). Write the new headline, save, and
> synchronize.

Hmmm.  Don't see this in MobileOrg for iOS.  I do see Settings,
Settings, AutoCapture Mode, but not Advanced Capture.  Is this an
example of two different code bases?  This is MobileOrg v1.6.1.

> Afterwards run org-mobile-pull from your computer, the changes should be
> there. At least it works for me under Android.

Yes, I expected that, once you made a change in MobileOrg, you have to
cycle over to Emacs Org via org-mobile-pu(sh|ll).

-- 
David Masterson
Programmer At Large

Re: [O] MobileOrg documentation?

[Jorge A. Alfaro-Murillo]

Ken Mankoff writes: 


On iPhone, you cannot add sub-headings.


Another good reason to ditch your iPhone and buy a Nexus =)

Even when the Android and iPhone applications are different, the 
good thing is that the org side (org-mobile.el) is not specific 
for the iPhone or Android (or any external application that uses 
the same conventions).


Perhaps that is why the manual seems to new users so vague, they 
expect that it will explain how to go over the phone installation 
as well. But that is not the job of the org part, but that of the 
phone application IMO.


--
Jorge.

Re: [O] MobileOrg documentation?

[Ken Mankoff]

Advance Capture is Android only, not on my iPhone version. On iPhone, you
cannot add sub-headings. You can type it out as much as you want with "**"
and "***", but you'll need to do some editing on the desktop side. Those
modifications could be made automagically when the desktop auto-detects
that updates have been pushed from the phone...

  -k.


On Fri, Aug 8, 2014 at 2:28 PM, Jorge A. Alfaro-Murillo <
jorge.alfaro-muri...@yale.edu> wrote:

> David Masterson writes:
>
>> Hmmm.  Simple question (I think).  Can you edit outlines (at least
>> somewhat) from MobileOrg?  For instance, can you add outline headers to
>> your Org outline in MobileOrg?  Or is MobileOrg only useful for viewing Org
>> outlines and capturing items to add to your outlines later?
>>
>
> Yes.
>
> In MobileOrg of your phone: Settings, Synchronization, check Advanced
> capture. Click over any headline and then use the capture button (the
> circle with a plus inside). Write the new headline, save, and synchronize.
>
> Afterwards run org-mobile-pull from your computer, the changes should be
> there. At least it works for me under Android.
>
> Best,
>
> --
> Jorge.
>
>
>

Re: [O] MobileOrg documentation?

[Jorge A. Alfaro-Murillo]

David Masterson writes: 

Hmmm.  Simple question (I think).  Can you edit outlines (at 
least somewhat) from MobileOrg?  For instance, can you add 
outline headers to your Org outline in MobileOrg?  Or is 
MobileOrg only useful for viewing Org outlines and capturing 
items to add to your outlines later? 


Yes.

In MobileOrg of your phone: Settings, Synchronization, check 
Advanced capture. Click over any headline and then use the capture 
button (the circle with a plus inside). Write the new headline, 
save, and synchronize.


Afterwards run org-mobile-pull from your computer, the changes should be
there. At least it works for me under Android.

Best,

--
Jorge.

Re: [O] MobileOrg documentation?

[David Masterson]

jorge.alfaro-muri...@yale.edu (Jorge A. Alfaro-Murillo) writes:

> David Masterson  writes:
>
>> Not looking for complete org functionality in my phone -- just a
>> reasonable ability to edit org outlines while I'm on the road. 
>
> Well you can do that with MobileOrg... sort of. Once you edit and save
> a change, synchronize in your phone and then pull from your computer
> (org-mobile-pull). From (info (org) Pulling from MobileOrg):
>
> "Some changes are applied directly and without user
> interaction. Examples are all changes to tags, TODO state, headline
> and body text that can be cleanly applied. Entries that have been
> flagged for further action will receive a tag ‘:FLAGGED:’, so that
> they can be easily found again. When there is a problem finding an
> entry or applying the change, the pointer entry will remain in the
> inbox and will be marked with an error message. You need to later
> resolve these issues by hand."
>
> I do not understand when "cleanly applied" is the case, but my
> experience is that resolving "these issues by hand" is the most likely
> outcome. Even simple edits in the text of an entry in my phone
> generally result in errors of synchronization. Note that besides
> adding a comment of when the file was changed in the mobile, the local
> file does not change. Also you can see the differences in the files in
> the from-org-mobile.org file (or whatever you set the
> org-mobile-inbox-for-pull variable to).
>
> Because of this limitation, I am better off just adding simple
> captures on my phone as remainders to do something in my computer,
> even adding information to a certain file. Then, when I synchronize in
> the phone and pull in my computer, the only file that changes is
> from-org-mobile.org, I open that buffer and use org-refile to send
> things to the right place.  Save all org buffers, org-mobile-push and
> repeat.
>
> I you have access by ssh to a computer that is always on, then I
> recommend leaving an emacsclient open and using JuiceSSH of ConnectBot
> for editing your org files on the go.

Hmmm.  Simple question (I think).  Can you edit outlines (at least
somewhat) from MobileOrg?  For instance, can you add outline headers to
your Org outline in MobileOrg?  Or is MobileOrg only useful for viewing
Org outlines and capturing items to add to your outlines later?

-- 
David Masterson
Programmer At Large

Re: [O] MobileOrg documentation?

[Jorge A. Alfaro-Murillo]

David Masterson  writes:

Not looking for complete org functionality in my phone -- just a 
reasonable ability to edit org outlines while I'm on the road. 


Well you can do that with MobileOrg... sort of. Once you edit and 
save a change, synchronize in your phone and then pull from your 
computer (org-mobile-pull). From (info (org) Pulling from 
MobileOrg):


"Some changes are applied directly and without user interaction. 
Examples are all changes to tags, TODO state, headline and body 
text that can be cleanly applied. Entries that have been flagged 
for further action will receive a tag ‘:FLAGGED:’, so that they 
can be easily found again. When there is a problem finding an 
entry or applying the change, the pointer entry will remain in the 
inbox and will be marked with an error message. You need to later 
resolve these issues by hand."


I do not understand when "cleanly applied" is the case, but my 
experience is that resolving "these issues by hand" is the most 
likely outcome. Even simple edits in the text of an entry in my 
phone generally result in errors of synchronization. Note that 
besides adding a comment of when the file was changed in the 
mobile, the local file does not change. Also you can see the 
differences in the files in the from-org-mobile.org file (or 
whatever you set the org-mobile-inbox-for-pull variable to).


Because of this limitation, I am better off just adding simple 
captures on my phone as remainders to do something in my computer, 
even adding information to a certain file. Then, when I 
synchronize in the phone and pull in my computer, the only file 
that changes is from-org-mobile.org, I open that buffer and use 
org-refile to send things to the right place.  Save all org 
buffers, org-mobile-push and repeat.


I you have access by ssh to a computer that is always on, then I 
recommend leaving an emacsclient open and using JuiceSSH of 
ConnectBot for editing your org files on the go.


Best,

--
Jorge.

Re: [O] MobileOrg documentation?

[Xebar Saram]

"Not looking for complete org functionality in my phone -- just a
reasonable ability to edit org outlines while I'm on the road."

+1 :)

z


On Fri, Aug 8, 2014 at 8:53 AM, David Masterson 
wrote:

> jorge.alfaro-muri...@yale.edu (Jorge A. Alfaro-Murillo) writes:
>
> > David Masterson  writes:
> >
> >> Anyone using MobileOrg?
> >
> > I use it all the time, but the Android version. I do not think that it
> > is a dead project, at the end of last year there were quite a few
> > updates.
> >
> > I generally use it to read my org agenda and TODO list in my phone, to
> > automatically transfer the org agenda to the Google calendar and to
> > make captures in my phone that I later organize into the proper file
> > and heading in my computer. For those three tasks it is a five star
> > application.
> >
> > I still think that it is far from being org-mode in your phone, but you
> > should not see it that way. If you want to something that allows
> > complete org functionality in your phone you are better off using
> > something like JuiceSSH and connecting to one of your computers.
>
> Not looking for complete org functionality in my phone -- just a
> reasonable ability to edit org outlines while I'm on the road.
>
> --
> David Masterson
> Programmer At Large
>
>
>

Re: [O] MobileOrg documentation?

[David Masterson]

jorge.alfaro-muri...@yale.edu (Jorge A. Alfaro-Murillo) writes:

> David Masterson  writes:
>
>> Anyone using MobileOrg? 
>
> I use it all the time, but the Android version. I do not think that it
> is a dead project, at the end of last year there were quite a few
> updates.
>
> I generally use it to read my org agenda and TODO list in my phone, to
> automatically transfer the org agenda to the Google calendar and to
> make captures in my phone that I later organize into the proper file
> and heading in my computer. For those three tasks it is a five star
> application.
>
> I still think that it is far from being org-mode in your phone, but you
> should not see it that way. If you want to something that allows
> complete org functionality in your phone you are better off using
> something like JuiceSSH and connecting to one of your computers.

Not looking for complete org functionality in my phone -- just a
reasonable ability to edit org outlines while I'm on the road.

-- 
David Masterson
Programmer At Large

Re: [O] MobileOrg documentation?

[Jacob Gerlach]

This keeps coming up, and while the answers are there if you search in the
right place or ask the list, I wonder if there is a better way.

Would it be feasible to include some sort of test function in the elpa
version of org that checks for the correct installation conditions and
throws an error if org is already loaded?

If someone would point me in the right direction, I'd be happy to take a
stab at implementing it.


On Thu, Aug 7, 2014 at 4:09 PM, Christian Kruse  wrote:

> Hi,
>
> Am 07.08.14 09:13, schrieb David Masterson:
> > Anyone using MobileOrg?
>
> I use the iPhone version, via WebDAV. For exactly two things:
> capturing TODOs and having my todo list at hand when I need it. It
> works pretty well for these two tasks, gladly.
>
> Best regards,
>
> --
> Christian Kruse
> http://ck.kennt-wayne.de/
>
>
>

Re: [O] MobileOrg documentation?

[Christian Kruse]

Hi,

Am 07.08.14 09:13, schrieb David Masterson:
> Anyone using MobileOrg?

I use the iPhone version, via WebDAV. For exactly two things:
capturing TODOs and having my todo list at hand when I need it. It
works pretty well for these two tasks, gladly.

Best regards,

-- 
Christian Kruse
http://ck.kennt-wayne.de/




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Re: [O] MobileOrg documentation?

[Subhan Michael Tindall]

-Original Message-
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[mailto:emacs-orgmode-bounces+subhant=familycareinc@gnu.org] On Behalf Of 
David Masterson
Sent: Thursday, August 07, 2014 12:13 AM
To: emacs-orgmode@gnu.org
Subject: Re: [O] MobileOrg documentation?

[SNIP]


> Anyone using MobileOrg?

I have used it off & on for a couple of years. Unlike what seems to be the 
majority here, I primarily 
use it for data capture -- capturing time/date stamped notes(which it works 
great for), data capture, and so forth.
Unfortunately the issues with time stamps defaulting to 00:00 and the lack of 
property support have
made it difficult to do what I want (capture glucose readings, insulin, carbs, 
etc) without substantial 
post-sync processing. Maybe one of these days I'll get around to it.

Subhan

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Re: [O] MobileOrg documentation?

[hymie!]

In our last episode, the evil Dr. Lacto had captured our hero,
  Eric Abrahamsen , who said:

>I use it, but only in one direction -- computer to tablet. And mostly
>just for having meeting/appointment data with me as I wander around
>looking for whoever it is I'm supposed to meet.
>
>I don't do the other direction (tablet to computer). Syncing has caused
>me enough difficulties in the past that I'm only comfortable using
>uni-directional syncing, not bi-directional.

Ditto.  Syncing works great computer-to-tablet.  Going tablet-to-computer,
not so much.  I'm not sure if the problem is
* my unfamiliarity with OrgMode
* my unfamiliarity with WebDav
* permissions are too strict
* MobileOrg not creating the sync files correctly
* OrgMode not processing the sync files correctly
but it's just not that important to me right now.  I have my notes (mostly
tasks) available, and that's what counts.  I can update them whenever.

--hymie!http://lactose.homelinux.net/~hymiehy...@lactose.homelinux.net

Re: [O] MobileOrg documentation?

[Ramon Diaz-Uriarte]

On Thu, 07-08-2014, at 15:41, Jorge A. Alfaro-Murillo 
 wrote:
> David Masterson  writes:
>
>> Anyone using MobileOrg? 
>
> I use it all the time, but the Android version. I do not think 
> that it is a dead project, at the end of last year there were 
> quite a few updates.
>
> I generally use it to read my org agenda and TODO list in my 
> phone, to automatically transfer the org agenda to the Google 
> calendar and to make captures in my phone that I later organize 
> into the proper file and heading in my computer. For those three 
> tasks it is a five star application.
>
> I still think that it is far from being org-mode in your phone, but you
> should not see it that way. If you want to something that allows
> complete org functionality in your phone you are better off using
> something like JuiceSSH and connecting to one of your computers.
>
> Best,


My experience is the same as Jorge's. I use it often, and in particular I
make captures in my tablet that are synced back (in my case via Dropbox) to
my computer, and there I organize those notes. So, as he says, "for those
three tasks it is a five star application".


Best,

R.

-- 
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Re: [O] MobileOrg documentation?

[Eric Abrahamsen]

David Masterson  writes:

> John Hendy  writes:
>
>> Did you look at the docs?
>> - https://github.com/matburt/mobileorg-android/wiki/Documentation
>
> Unfortunately, this looks like Android documentation where I have an
> iPhone.
>
>> Unfortunately, looks like his images are borked at the moment. It's
>> been a while since I've used it, but you're saying there's not an
>> intuitive way to add a new heading? Can you just do "** something" (or
>> similar)?
>
> Doesn't seem to work.  The "** Something" gets treated as text for the
> previous heading.  I suspect that, although you type the "** Something"
> at the left margin, it gets indented as text under a heading should be
> which messes up the heading interpretation.
>
>> On Mon, Aug 4, 2014 at 11:26 PM, David Masterson  
>> wrote:
>>> There is not much to the MobileOrg documentation.  For instance, how do
>>> you 'add' a new heading to an outline?  Any examples around on how to
>>> use MobileOrg?
>
> Anyone using MobileOrg?

I use it, but only in one direction -- computer to tablet. And mostly
just for having meeting/appointment data with me as I wander around
looking for whoever it is I'm supposed to meet. In fact, I've always
wanted OSMand integration with MobileOrg (perhaps a osm link type) where
I could press the link and it would show me where I was going in OSMand.

I don't do the other direction (tablet to computer). Syncing has caused
me enough difficulties in the past that I'm only comfortable using
uni-directional syncing, not bi-directional. That and the problems that
Dropbox has been having in China have made MobileOrg much less useful
than it might have been...

E

Re: [O] MobileOrg documentation?

[Jorge A. Alfaro-Murillo]

Also there is a more or less active Google+ page: 


https://plus.google.com/u/0/101083268903948579162/posts

--
Jorge.

Re: [O] MobileOrg documentation?

[Jorge A. Alfaro-Murillo]

David Masterson  writes:

Anyone using MobileOrg? 


I use it all the time, but the Android version. I do not think 
that it is a dead project, at the end of last year there were 
quite a few updates.


I generally use it to read my org agenda and TODO list in my 
phone, to automatically transfer the org agenda to the Google 
calendar and to make captures in my phone that I later organize 
into the proper file and heading in my computer. For those three 
tasks it is a five star application.


I still think that it is far from being org-mode in your phone, but you
should not see it that way. If you want to something that allows
complete org functionality in your phone you are better off using
something like JuiceSSH and connecting to one of your computers.

Best,

--
Jorge.

Re: [O] MobileOrg documentation?

[Alexis]

David Masterson writes:

> Unfortunately, this looks like Android documentation where I have an
> iPhone.

i didn't even realise MobileOrg was available for iOS until this moment!
It looks like there are two quite separate codebases (neither of which
seems to be actively maintained) which complicates things further; i can
easily imagine the provided functionality between both versions
gradually drifting apart 


Alexis.

Re: [O] MobileOrg documentation?

[David Masterson]

John Hendy  writes:

> Did you look at the docs?
> - https://github.com/matburt/mobileorg-android/wiki/Documentation

Unfortunately, this looks like Android documentation where I have an
iPhone.

> Unfortunately, looks like his images are borked at the moment. It's
> been a while since I've used it, but you're saying there's not an
> intuitive way to add a new heading? Can you just do "** something" (or
> similar)?

Doesn't seem to work.  The "** Something" gets treated as text for the
previous heading.  I suspect that, although you type the "** Something"
at the left margin, it gets indented as text under a heading should be
which messes up the heading interpretation.

> On Mon, Aug 4, 2014 at 11:26 PM, David Masterson  
> wrote:
>> There is not much to the MobileOrg documentation.  For instance, how do
>> you 'add' a new heading to an outline?  Any examples around on how to
>> use MobileOrg?

Anyone using MobileOrg?

-- 
David Masterson
Programmer At Large

Re: [O] MobileOrg documentation?

[John Hendy]

Did you look at the docs?
- https://github.com/matburt/mobileorg-android/wiki/Documentation

Unfortunately, looks like his images are borked at the moment. It's
been a while since I've used it, but you're saying there's not an
intuitive way to add a new heading? Can you just do "** something" (or
similar)?


John

On Mon, Aug 4, 2014 at 11:26 PM, David Masterson  wrote:
> There is not much to the MobileOrg documentation.  For instance, how do
> you 'add' a new heading to an outline?  Any examples around on how to
> use MobileOrg?
> --
> David Masterson
> Programmer At Large
>
>

Re: [O] MobileOrg

[Xebar Saram]

Shame

ive been using it for the past few months (took me a loong time to setup as
the documentation is really hard to follow). i really would love to see
mobile org developed as having my orgmode data on the go is really crucial

best

Z


On Wed, Aug 6, 2014 at 7:33 PM, Alexis  wrote:

>
> Subhan Michael Tindall writes:
>
> > There’s also a few areas I’d like to do or see some enhancements on
> > the mobile end, for example handling display or edit of properties is
> > very limited
>
> *nod* i started to address this issue with this pull request:
>
> https://github.com/matburt/mobileorg-android/pull/434
>
> which got merged  But given the lack of commits and releases more
> generally, i've been reticent to work on this further.
>
>
> Alexis.
>
>

Re: [O] MobileOrg

[Alexis]

Subhan Michael Tindall writes:

> There’s also a few areas I’d like to do or see some enhancements on
> the mobile end, for example handling display or edit of properties is
> very limited

*nod* i started to address this issue with this pull request:

https://github.com/matburt/mobileorg-android/pull/434

which got merged  But given the lack of commits and releases more
generally, i've been reticent to work on this further.


Alexis.

Re: [O] MobileOrg

[Subhan Michael Tindall]

I wish I did.
I’ve tried using it on my Android phone. It appears pretty stable, but the 
documentation is limited and woefully out of date.
There’s also a few areas I’d like to do or see some enhancements on the mobile 
end, for example handling display or edit of properties is very limited, time 
stamp defaults should maybe be set to current time instead of 00:00, etc.
It feels like about 85% of a really good app right now, and I’d love to see it 
get to 95 or 100%, but as it is now it’s mostly useful as a display option 
rather than for capturing anything other than simple data.
I’m not an Android/mobile programmer or I’d try making some modifications 
myself.
Subhan


From: emacs-orgmode-bounces+subhant=familycareinc@gnu.org 
[mailto:emacs-orgmode-bounces+subhant=familycareinc@gnu.org] On Behalf Of 
Noah Slater
Sent: Wednesday, August 06, 2014 7:08 AM
To: emacs-orgmode@gnu.org
Subject: [O] MobileOrg

Hello folks,

Does anyone know what's happening to MobileOrg? It seems like the project was 
taken over by a new maintainer and then subsequently abandoned.

I'd love to use MobileOrg, but I always feel wary about starting to use new 
software which likely wont receive any updates.

Thanks,

Noah


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[O] MobileOrg

[Noah Slater]

Hello folks,

Does anyone know what's happening to MobileOrg? It seems like the project
was taken over by a new maintainer and then subsequently abandoned.

I'd love to use MobileOrg, but I always feel wary about starting to use new
software which likely wont receive any updates.

Thanks,

Noah

[O] MobileOrg documentation?

[David Masterson]

There is not much to the MobileOrg documentation.  For instance, how do
you 'add' a new heading to an outline?  Any examples around on how to
use MobileOrg?
-- 
David Masterson
Programmer At Large

Re: [O] MobileOrg

[Nick Dokos]

Aric Gregson  writes:

> That's what I was looking for. Didn't realize I could do that...
>

So, after I sent my "please include context" reply, I went back and
did retrieve the thread and to my surprise, I found out you were
replying to a previous suggestion of mine :-)

So, yes, please: include context!
-- 
Nick

Re: [O] MobileOrg

[Nick Dokos]

Aric Gregson  writes:

> That's what I was looking for. Didn't realize I could do that...
>


Can you please include some context in your replies? It should be
possible to figure out what you are talking about without having
to retrieve the whole thread.

Thanks!
-- 
Nick

Re: [O] MobileOrg

[Aric Gregson]

That's what I was looking for. Didn't realize I could do that...

Thanks, Aric

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Re: [O] MobileOrg

[Nick Dokos]

Aric Gregson  writes:

> Sean Escriva  writes:
>
>> org-mobile.el which is responsible for the sync has a custom var defined
>> called 'org-mobile-files-exclude-regexp' which should exlude files that
>> match.
>
> OK. I've tried to play with this, but clearly my understanding of emacs
> and regex is inadequate for this. Ideally I would like to exclude all of
> the files except for two, agenda.org and organizer.org. Alternatively,
> is there a way to list all files you want excluded in the regex match
> pattern?
>
> I tried [[:name.of.file:]][[:name.of.another:]] but it didn't like
> that. I can exclude a single file just by putting it's name in, but I am
> not clear on how to make a list of files to exclude. 
>

Instead of starting with everything and trying to exclude most of them,
go the other way: start with nothing and include just what you want:

C-h v org-mobile-files RET

Something like this:

(setq org-mobile-files '("/path/to/agenda.org" "/path/to/organizer.org"))

Nick

Re: [O] MobileOrg

[Aric Gregson]

Sean Escriva  writes:

> org-mobile.el which is responsible for the sync has a custom var defined
> called 'org-mobile-files-exclude-regexp' which should exlude files that
> match.

OK. I've tried to play with this, but clearly my understanding of emacs
and regex is inadequate for this. Ideally I would like to exclude all of
the files except for two, agenda.org and organizer.org. Alternatively,
is there a way to list all files you want excluded in the regex match
pattern?

I tried [[:name.of.file:]][[:name.of.another:]] but it didn't like
that. I can exclude a single file just by putting it's name in, but I am
not clear on how to make a list of files to exclude. 

Thanks, Aric

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Re: [O] Mobileorg doesn't correctly import one .org file

[Ken Mankoff]

On 2014-04-16 at 12:49, Bastien wrote:
> Pere Quintana Seguí  writes:
>
>> Everything looks fine except one file which is not correctly
>> imported.

I missed and can't find the original email, but does the erroneous file
have an "&" in the filename? That is a known MobileOrg bug.

  -k.

Re: [O] Mobileorg doesn't correctly import one .org file

[Bastien]

Hi Pere,

Pere Quintana Seguí  writes:

> Everything looks fine except one file which is not correctly
> imported.

If you don't get an answer here, and if you still have this problem,
maybe you can try asking directly on MobileOrg bug reporting page:

https://github.com/MobileOrg/mobileorg/issues

2 cts,

-- 
 Bastien

[O] Mobileorg doesn't correctly import one .org file

[Pere Quintana Seguí]

Hi,

I recently bought an iPad and I wanted to try Mobileorg again.

My org-mode installation was already configured as I tried it last year
with my iPhone. So I lauched org-mobile-push on my computer and I synced
Mobileorg.

Everything looks fine except one file which is not correctly imported.
It is just partially imported, the last part is missing, and the level
of the last headlines is not correct.

The .org file looks correct on my computer.

What could be going on? I would prefer not to share the file, as it
contains private information.

Thanks,

Pere

Re: [O] MobileOrg

[Aric Gregson]

Sean Escriva  writes:

> org-mobile.el which is responsible for the sync has a custom var defined
> called 'org-mobile-files-exclude-regexp' which should exlude files that
> match.

Thanks very much. I'll give this a try again. Would be nice to have on
the phone once and a while. For computer syncing I find github to work
very well. 

Thanks, Aric

Re: [O] MobileOrg

[Sean Escriva]

Aric Gregson  writes:

> Hello,
>
> I was wondering if it is possible to export only some of the org files
> for mobileorg? Like have a list of included or excluded files?
>

This definitely could be possible, bu default just the value for
org-agenda-files is used.

org-mobile.el which is responsible for the sync has a custom var defined
called 'org-mobile-files-exclude-regexp' which should exlude files that
match.

I haven't used it myself though.

-- 
-sean

Re: [O] MobileOrg

[Aric Gregson]

Hello,

I was wondering if it is possible to export only some of the org files
for mobileorg? Like have a list of included or excluded files?

Thanks, Aric

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Re: [O] mobileorg capture todo's

[Sean Escriva]

Chris Henderson  writes:

> The org file on my computer has * Tasks * Projects * Someday/ Maybe. If I
> capture on mobileorg, is there a way for the captured items to be listed on
> my computer's org file under the * Tasks section when I sync it? I think at
> the moment they are added to the flagged.org file and I'm not sure how to
> move items from that to my mail org file. I never open the flagged.org file.

The name of this file is customizable but here's what I do. I have:

(setq org-mobile-inbox-for-pull "~/org/inbox.org")

then the value for org-agenda-files contains this file.

Next I set refile targets[0] simply like:

(setq org-refile-targets '((org-agenda-files :maxlevel . 2)))

which allows me to visit inbox.org and use C-c C-w to move items to
where I want them.

[0]: http://orgmode.org/manual/Refile-and-copy.html#Refile-and-copy

-- 
-sean

[O] mobileorg capture todo's

[Chris Henderson]

The org file on my computer has * Tasks * Projects * Someday/ Maybe. If I
capture on mobileorg, is there a way for the captured items to be listed on
my computer's org file under the * Tasks section when I sync it? I think at
the moment they are added to the flagged.org file and I'm not sure how to
move items from that to my mail org file. I never open the flagged.org file.

Thanks.

Re: [O] MobileOrg

[Ken Mankoff]

Some more tips:

* I have some code to monitor the mobile org file that changes and 
automagically update the desktop based Org. This means if you forget 
to push and the mobile Org is stale, you can also remotely force a 
push by adding a dummy item and syncing 2x.


http://kenmankoff.com/2012/08/17/emacs-org-mode-and-mobileorg-auto-sync/

* You can add "#+FILETAGS: REFILE" to the top of the file where 
mobile items get synced, and then in a custom agenda make sure those 
all appear in a section so you remember to file them once they are 
on the desktop Org. (C-w).


Hope this helps,

  -k.


On Mon, 3 Mar 2014, Sean Escriva wrote:



Hi David,

Yes, the maintainers are watching this list :) I'm one of them.

It looks like John gave a nice thorough answer for most things, so I
won't repeat his responses.

David Masterson  writes:

Anyone using MobileOrg on iOS?  I can't figure out how to set it up from
the documentation -- I think I'm missing something.  I have a number of
questions:

1. What needs to be setup for the first time push from Emacs to the
Dropbox Apps/MobileOrg directory?


You will need to define org-mobile-directory, using Dropbox the correct
default setting is: "~/Dropbox/Apps/MobileOrg"

For example, I have

(setq org-mobile-directory "~/Dropbox/Apps/MobileOrg")

in my config.

Then you can org-mobile-push to stage your files in this location.

You should not manually create any folders in Dropbox.



2. What should the results of the first time push be that I should check
to ensure that it worked?


Your org-agenda-files will be staged and an index.org file and
checksums.dat will be created.



3. What is MobileOrg looking for in the Dropbox directory?


MobileOrg needs to be authorized as a dropbox app, this step will create
the correct path.



4. What do I need to configure in MobileOrg?

5. What will MobileOrg put back in the Dropbox directory?

6. What do I need to do to get Emacs to pull from the Dropbox directory?


org-mobile-pull will pull in changes.



And so on.  Are the maintainers of MobileOrg watching this mailing list?


A while back I outlined basic troubleshooting steps that should help:
https://github.com/MobileOrg/mobileorg/wiki/Troubleshooting

Feel free to contact me directly with questions or hop in #mobileorg on
freenode irc if that's better for you.

I started work on an improved documentation site, but it needs an
overhaul to be easier for others to contribute.

Re: [O] MobileOrg 1.5.2 - Dropbox sync error

[Sean Escriva]

Erwin Panen  writes:

> Hi everybody,
>
> I'm trying to re-enable MobileOrg on my 1st gen iPad.
> iOS is version 5.1.1 (9B206)
> MobilOrg is version 1.5.2
>

Unfortunately this version is outdated at this point. Due to the way the
app store works for transitioning maintainership the current MobileOrg
in the app store is actually viewed by Apple as a totally *new* app.

> I've had login problems on iPhone too, but these have been solved by 
> reinstalling MobileOrg (1.6.1 now).
> (There was no upgrade notification in the App Store..)
>
> Problem is I cannot upgrade the ios version on the iPad as the machine 
> is getting way too slow.
> But it remains a perfect tool for a lot of jobs.
>
> MobileOrg throws the familiar Dropbox Error:
> Bad username and password or network error..

My only guess is that is due to the outdated dropbox sdk in the older
version of MobileOrg. I wish I could be of more help, but can't do much
for the older versions at this point.

sorry!

-- 
-sean

Re: [O] MobileOrg

[Sean Escriva]

Hi David, 

Yes, the maintainers are watching this list :) I'm one of them.

It looks like John gave a nice thorough answer for most things, so I
won't repeat his responses.

David Masterson  writes:
> Anyone using MobileOrg on iOS?  I can't figure out how to set it up from
> the documentation -- I think I'm missing something.  I have a number of
> questions:
>
> 1. What needs to be setup for the first time push from Emacs to the
> Dropbox Apps/MobileOrg directory?

You will need to define org-mobile-directory, using Dropbox the correct
default setting is: "~/Dropbox/Apps/MobileOrg"

For example, I have

 (setq org-mobile-directory "~/Dropbox/Apps/MobileOrg")

in my config.

Then you can org-mobile-push to stage your files in this location.

You should not manually create any folders in Dropbox.

>
> 2. What should the results of the first time push be that I should check
> to ensure that it worked?

Your org-agenda-files will be staged and an index.org file and
checksums.dat will be created.

>
> 3. What is MobileOrg looking for in the Dropbox directory?

MobileOrg needs to be authorized as a dropbox app, this step will create
the correct path.

>
> 4. What do I need to configure in MobileOrg?
>
> 5. What will MobileOrg put back in the Dropbox directory?
>
> 6. What do I need to do to get Emacs to pull from the Dropbox directory?

org-mobile-pull will pull in changes.

>
> And so on.  Are the maintainers of MobileOrg watching this mailing list?

A while back I outlined basic troubleshooting steps that should help:
https://github.com/MobileOrg/mobileorg/wiki/Troubleshooting

Feel free to contact me directly with questions or hop in #mobileorg on
freenode irc if that's better for you.

I started work on an improved documentation site, but it needs an
overhaul to be easier for others to contribute.

-- 
-sean