Re: [Emc-developers] 2.8 release update.

[Gene Heskett]

On Tuesday 04 August 2020 00:56:57 Stuart Stevenson wrote:

> Started LinuxCNC.
> The first screen tells me to pick a machine from the list on the left.
> The font of the list on the left is large enough to be written on top
> of one another to the extent I cannot read any of the words - let
> alone choose any.
> The directory headers with the pull down icons are clear and readable.
> Pull down function properly. The machine names are what are not
> readable. I am running a 43 inch 4k screen. Is there an easy way to
> modify the size of the font or is this something I will need to deal
> with on my monitor? thanks
> Stuart
>
I've been building that on my rpi4, sometimes 2-3x a day as commits are 
made. All those machine sym names and such are in a normal font. All 
others are up to date from the buildbot, running master-rt. Just checked 
my other 3 machines. No font problems anywhere. But the pi is the inly 
buster. Its running raspbian buster 10.4, uptodate except the stuff a 
non-preempt kernel install would change.

dpkg-checkbuilddeps is NOT foolproof, so dbl-check the config logs for 
stuff .configure is complaining about. Best advice I've got, Stuart.

> On Mon, Aug 3, 2020 at 11:49 PM Stuart Stevenson  
wrote:
> > forgot to mention the OS is Buster - a recent install
> >
> > just finished the runtests
> > I saw a number of skipped test and the rtai not loaded fail but the
> > report says 234 run, 234 successful, 0 failed, 0 expected
> >
> > thanks
> > Stuart
> >
> > On Mon, Aug 3, 2020 at 11:20 PM Stuart Stevenson 
> >
> > wrote:
> >> Gentlemen,
> >> I just git got () linuxcnc-dev. After clearing all the
> >> dependencies I notice libgnomeprintui-2-2 is not loaded. Seems to
> >> have been removed from the repositories decades(maybe not that
> >> long) ago. This gives me no cause for concern and this is not a
> >> request for any action or attention. Just an FYI as the configure
> >> message says printing from classic ladder will not be possible.
> >> I could find the package as an rpm but I didn't try to install it
> >> as I don't "think" I will need to print from classic ladder. You
> >> know how that goes though - for some reason I will want/need to
> >> print from classic ladder.
> >>
> >> thanks
> >> Stuart
> >>
> >> On Mon, Aug 3, 2020 at 12:23 PM Chris Morley
> >> 
> >>
> >> wrote:
> >>> One ugly work around is to embed gremlin into a qt screen.
> >>> I just added a sample screen under
> >>> qtvcp_screen/qtvcp_experimental/gremlin.ini
> >>> It is Qtaxis with both qt's graphics and gremlin.
> >>> I have reports gremlin works on the Pi.
> >>> It has some warts that could be worked on.
> >>>
> >>> opencv should only be required if you use the camview widget.
> >>> It probably prevents one from using designer to modify screens -
> >>> I'll look into that.
> >>>
> >>> Chris
> >>>
> >>> 
> >>> From: Phill Carter 
> >>> Sent: August 3, 2020 9:16 AM
> >>> To: linuxcnc-developers 
> >>> Subject: Re: [Emc-developers] 2.8 release update.
> >>>
> >>> I couldn't get the Qtvcp screens working on my Pi either.
> >>>
> >>> The raspbian python-opengl module has been built for OpenGL ES, I
> >>> tried several times to build it for OpenGL but was unsuccessful.
> >>>
> >>> Cheers, Phill
> >>>
> >>>
> >>>
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Re: [Emc-developers] 2.8 release update.

[Stuart Stevenson]

Started LinuxCNC.
The first screen tells me to pick a machine from the list on the left.
The font of the list on the left is large enough to be written on top of
one another to the extent I cannot read any of the words - let alone choose
any.
The directory headers with the pull down icons are clear and readable. Pull
down function properly. The machine names are what are not readable.
I am running a 43 inch 4k screen. Is there an easy way to modify the size
of the font or is this something I will need to deal with on my monitor?
thanks
Stuart


On Mon, Aug 3, 2020 at 11:49 PM Stuart Stevenson  wrote:

> forgot to mention the OS is Buster - a recent install
>
> just finished the runtests
> I saw a number of skipped test and the rtai not loaded fail but the report
> says 234 run, 234 successful, 0 failed, 0 expected
>
> thanks
> Stuart
>
> On Mon, Aug 3, 2020 at 11:20 PM Stuart Stevenson 
> wrote:
>
>> Gentlemen,
>> I just git got () linuxcnc-dev. After clearing all the dependencies I
>> notice libgnomeprintui-2-2 is not loaded. Seems to have been removed from
>> the repositories decades(maybe not that long) ago. This gives me no cause
>> for concern and this is not a request for any action or attention. Just an
>> FYI as the configure message says printing from classic ladder will not be
>> possible.
>> I could find the package as an rpm but I didn't try to install it as I
>> don't "think" I will need to print from classic ladder. You know how that
>> goes though - for some reason I will want/need to print from classic ladder.
>>
>> thanks
>> Stuart
>>
>> On Mon, Aug 3, 2020 at 12:23 PM Chris Morley 
>> wrote:
>>
>>> One ugly work around is to embed gremlin into a qt screen.
>>> I just added a sample screen under
>>> qtvcp_screen/qtvcp_experimental/gremlin.ini
>>> It is Qtaxis with both qt's graphics and gremlin.
>>> I have reports gremlin works on the Pi.
>>> It has some warts that could be worked on.
>>>
>>> opencv should only be required if you use the camview widget.
>>> It probably prevents one from using designer to modify screens - I'll
>>> look into that.
>>>
>>> Chris
>>>
>>> 
>>> From: Phill Carter 
>>> Sent: August 3, 2020 9:16 AM
>>> To: linuxcnc-developers 
>>> Subject: Re: [Emc-developers] 2.8 release update.
>>>
>>> I couldn't get the Qtvcp screens working on my Pi either.
>>>
>>> The raspbian python-opengl module has been built for OpenGL ES, I tried
>>> several times to build it for OpenGL but was unsuccessful.
>>>
>>> Cheers, Phill
>>>
>>>
>>>
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>>
>>
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>>
>>
>
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Re: [Emc-developers] 2.8 release update.

[Stuart Stevenson]

forgot to mention the OS is Buster - a recent install

just finished the runtests
I saw a number of skipped test and the rtai not loaded fail but the report
says 234 run, 234 successful, 0 failed, 0 expected

thanks
Stuart

On Mon, Aug 3, 2020 at 11:20 PM Stuart Stevenson  wrote:

> Gentlemen,
> I just git got () linuxcnc-dev. After clearing all the dependencies I
> notice libgnomeprintui-2-2 is not loaded. Seems to have been removed from
> the repositories decades(maybe not that long) ago. This gives me no cause
> for concern and this is not a request for any action or attention. Just an
> FYI as the configure message says printing from classic ladder will not be
> possible.
> I could find the package as an rpm but I didn't try to install it as I
> don't "think" I will need to print from classic ladder. You know how that
> goes though - for some reason I will want/need to print from classic ladder.
>
> thanks
> Stuart
>
> On Mon, Aug 3, 2020 at 12:23 PM Chris Morley 
> wrote:
>
>> One ugly work around is to embed gremlin into a qt screen.
>> I just added a sample screen under
>> qtvcp_screen/qtvcp_experimental/gremlin.ini
>> It is Qtaxis with both qt's graphics and gremlin.
>> I have reports gremlin works on the Pi.
>> It has some warts that could be worked on.
>>
>> opencv should only be required if you use the camview widget.
>> It probably prevents one from using designer to modify screens - I'll
>> look into that.
>>
>> Chris
>>
>> 
>> From: Phill Carter 
>> Sent: August 3, 2020 9:16 AM
>> To: linuxcnc-developers 
>> Subject: Re: [Emc-developers] 2.8 release update.
>>
>> I couldn't get the Qtvcp screens working on my Pi either.
>>
>> The raspbian python-opengl module has been built for OpenGL ES, I tried
>> several times to build it for OpenGL but was unsuccessful.
>>
>> Cheers, Phill
>>
>>
>>
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Re: [Emc-developers] 2.8 release update.

[Stuart Stevenson]

Gentlemen,
I just git got () linuxcnc-dev. After clearing all the dependencies I
notice libgnomeprintui-2-2 is not loaded. Seems to have been removed from
the repositories decades(maybe not that long) ago. This gives me no cause
for concern and this is not a request for any action or attention. Just an
FYI as the configure message says printing from classic ladder will not be
possible.
I could find the package as an rpm but I didn't try to install it as I
don't "think" I will need to print from classic ladder. You know how that
goes though - for some reason I will want/need to print from classic ladder.

thanks
Stuart

On Mon, Aug 3, 2020 at 12:23 PM Chris Morley 
wrote:

> One ugly work around is to embed gremlin into a qt screen.
> I just added a sample screen under
> qtvcp_screen/qtvcp_experimental/gremlin.ini
> It is Qtaxis with both qt's graphics and gremlin.
> I have reports gremlin works on the Pi.
> It has some warts that could be worked on.
>
> opencv should only be required if you use the camview widget.
> It probably prevents one from using designer to modify screens - I'll look
> into that.
>
> Chris
>
> 
> From: Phill Carter 
> Sent: August 3, 2020 9:16 AM
> To: linuxcnc-developers 
> Subject: Re: [Emc-developers] 2.8 release update.
>
> I couldn't get the Qtvcp screens working on my Pi either.
>
> The raspbian python-opengl module has been built for OpenGL ES, I tried
> several times to build it for OpenGL but was unsuccessful.
>
> Cheers, Phill
>
>
>
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Re: [Emc-developers] 2.8 release update.

[Phill Carter]

> On 4 Aug 2020, at 8:45 am, andy pugh  wrote:
> 
> On Mon, 3 Aug 2020 at 04:51, Phill Carter  wrote:
> 
>> They seem to require:
>> python-pyqt5
>> python-pyqt5.qsci
>> python-pyqt5.qtopengl
>> python-pyqt5.qtsvg
>> opencv
>> 
>> Optional packages required are:
>> python-dbus.mainloop.pyqt5
>> gstreamer1.0-tools
>> python-espeak
>> espeak
>> 
>> The Blender sim requires:
>> pyqt5-dev-tools
> 
> 
> My proposal would be to add these to "Recommends", specifically in line 4
> of control.bottom.in
> 
> Does that make sense?
> 
I think that would be fine.

On another note, I also noticed the Buster Pi install instructions and the RT 
kernel package. Does that package also include any recommended kernel load 
settings? I haven't had time to try it out yet.

Cheers, Phill

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Re: [Emc-developers] 2.8 release update.

[andy pugh]

On Mon, 3 Aug 2020 at 04:51, Phill Carter  wrote:

> They seem to require:
> python-pyqt5
> python-pyqt5.qsci
> python-pyqt5.qtopengl
> python-pyqt5.qtsvg
> opencv
>
> Optional packages required are:
> python-dbus.mainloop.pyqt5
> gstreamer1.0-tools
> python-espeak
> espeak
>
> The Blender sim requires:
> pyqt5-dev-tools


My proposal would be to add these to "Recommends", specifically in line 4
of control.bottom.in

Does that make sense?

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Re: [Emc-developers] 2.8 release update.

[Chris Morley]

One ugly work around is to embed gremlin into a qt screen.
I just added a sample screen under qtvcp_screen/qtvcp_experimental/gremlin.ini
It is Qtaxis with both qt's graphics and gremlin.
I have reports gremlin works on the Pi.
It has some warts that could be worked on.

opencv should only be required if you use the camview widget.
It probably prevents one from using designer to modify screens - I'll look into 
that.

Chris


From: Phill Carter 
Sent: August 3, 2020 9:16 AM
To: linuxcnc-developers 
Subject: Re: [Emc-developers] 2.8 release update.

I couldn't get the Qtvcp screens working on my Pi either.

The raspbian python-opengl module has been built for OpenGL ES, I tried several 
times to build it for OpenGL but was unsuccessful.

Cheers, Phill



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Re: [Emc-developers] 2.8 release update.

[Gene Heskett]

On Monday 03 August 2020 05:16:59 Phill Carter wrote:

> I couldn't get the Qtvcp screens working on my Pi either.
>
> The raspbian python-opengl module has been built for OpenGL ES, I
> tried several times to build it for OpenGL but was unsuccessful.
>
> Cheers, Phill
>
Its not a showstopper, I've been able to make pyvcp show me what I've 
needed. Biggest problem is the wasted screen real estate using those 
primitive toools.

> > On 3 Aug 2020, at 5:09 pm, Gene Heskett 
> > wrote:
> >
> > On Sunday 02 August 2020 23:51:17 Phill Carter wrote:
> >
> > sudo apt install opencv, could not locate opencv on raspbian 10.4
> > for armhf.
> >
> > raspbian for armhf isn't using x11, but wayland, so my tools to
> > search are limited to aptitude But thats using tactical nukes
> > without warning labels.  And it doesn't find opencv. It does find a
> > libopencv.version.jni but that removes the dev & dbg stuff for
> > linuxcnc. And that will cascade thru the install, destroying the sd
> > card, so I'm never again going anywhere near that. Starting over
> > from a fresh sd card 3 times is enough.
> >
> > Cheers, Gene Heskett
> > --
> > "There are four boxes to be used in defense of liberty:
> > soap, ballot, jury, and ammo. Please use in that order."
> > -Ed Howdershelt (Author)
> > If we desire respect for the law, we must first make the law
> > respectable. - Louis D. Brandeis
> > Genes Web page 
> >
> >
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Re: [Emc-developers] 2.8 release update.

[Phill Carter]

I couldn't get the Qtvcp screens working on my Pi either.

The raspbian python-opengl module has been built for OpenGL ES, I tried several 
times to build it for OpenGL but was unsuccessful.

Cheers, Phill

> On 3 Aug 2020, at 5:09 pm, Gene Heskett  wrote:
> 
> On Sunday 02 August 2020 23:51:17 Phill Carter wrote:
> 
> sudo apt install opencv, could not locate opencv on raspbian 10.4 for 
> armhf.
> 
> raspbian for armhf isn't using x11, but wayland, so my tools to search 
> are limited to aptitude But thats using tactical nukes without warning 
> labels.  And it doesn't find opencv. It does find a 
> libopencv.version.jni but that removes the dev & dbg stuff for linuxcnc.  
> And that will cascade thru the install, destroying the sd card, so I'm 
> never again going anywhere near that. Starting over from a fresh sd card 
> 3 times is enough.
> 
> Cheers, Gene Heskett
> -- 
> "There are four boxes to be used in defense of liberty:
> soap, ballot, jury, and ammo. Please use in that order."
> -Ed Howdershelt (Author)
> If we desire respect for the law, we must first make the law respectable.
> - Louis D. Brandeis
> Genes Web page 
> 
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Re: [Emc-developers] Presentation and Spanish translation work.

[J.M. Garcia]

Gracias por tu interes, Leonardo.

Any help is welcome. In the next phase there is a lot of work: image
editing.
But I can't capture some window images for documentation in Spanish until
localization is complete. This is the priority.
It would be great to have collaboration to edit / capture image files .dwg,
.swg, .png etc.
If you can help with that task ... stay tuned.

The work continues. The following subdirectories have complete translations:
code/
common/
config/
gcode/
getting-started/
hal/
install/
motion/
remap/
user/



El dom., 2 ago. 2020 a las 1:19, Leonardo Marsaglia ()
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> Hola JM.
>
> Saludos desde Argentina!
>
> That said, we can keep on talking in english :). I've talking to Andy about
> the spanish translations for the new version so if you need anythint at all
> please let me know.
>
> Thanks for the good work!
>
> El sáb., 1 ago. 2020 a las 18:30, J.M. Garcia ()
> escribió:
>
> > Greetings to the fantastic LinuxCNC team and the rest of the open source
> > fans.
> > My name is José Manuel Garcia and I am Spanish.
> > In the prehistoric era, when computer magazines dominated the earth, the
> > world communicated via RS232 modem, Windows 95 hijacked our screens and
> PC
> > World was the T-Rex, I received a copy that contained a strange specimen
> on
> > the CD: Slackware (version 2 or 3, I don't remember) with EMC. As an
> > engineer, that thing attracted me like light to a moth and my 486 was
> > opened to the new world, unknown to me, of Unix / Linux. From those old
> > days, a Spanish version was always in my mind. I think the time has come.
> > I have contacted Andy Pugh through the forum (my nickname is Abu there).
> > Thanks Andy for your patience. Since the release of LinuxCNC 2.8 seems
> > imminent and I hope that a decent documentation in Spanish is present, I
> > think it is time to appear on this mailing list.
> > I have prepared more than 80% of the documentation. This includes .po
> > files, man pages, and much more. I certainly have not forgotten to edit
> > submakefiles, Master_ * and * .tmpl for the Spanish language.
> > However, many doubts arise and although Andy's opinions are deeply and
> > seriously considered, it is always good to have as many as possible. I
> will
> > ask you my questions soon.
> > Regards.
> > J.M.
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Re: [Emc-developers] 2.8 release update.

[Gene Heskett]

On Sunday 02 August 2020 23:51:17 Phill Carter wrote:

sudo apt install opencv, could not locate opencv on raspbian 10.4 for 
armhf.

raspbian for armhf isn't using x11, but wayland, so my tools to search 
are limited to aptitude But thats using tactical nukes without warning 
labels.  And it doesn't find opencv. It does find a 
libopencv.version.jni but that removes the dev & dbg stuff for linuxcnc.  
And that will cascade thru the install, destroying the sd card, so I'm 
never again going anywhere near that. Starting over from a fresh sd card 
3 times is enough.

Cheers, Gene Heskett
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 soap, ballot, jury, and ammo. Please use in that order."
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If we desire respect for the law, we must first make the law respectable.
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