RE: Regulatory compliance training for students
In addition, I'll bet that if you were to survey the industry, there would be a high percentage of Regulatory Engineers who have Associate Engineering degrees or degrees other than EE. Historically, it has been my observation that product safety is not necessarily a well recognized engineering discipline, and while I enjoy it, several engineers have commented that they would rather do digital or analog design than safety. Just my $0.02 Rick Busche rbus...@es.com -- From: COLON KELLY[SMTP:col...@symbol.com] Sent: Wednesday, January 22, 1997 12:27 PM To:gabriel_...@notesgw.hns.com Cc:emc-p...@ieee.org Subject: Re: Regulatory compliance training for students Gabriel- I agree with your position that regulatory work is not done only those with an associate's degree (I personally have a BSEE as do many of my colleagues). It should be noted that even though UL will not grant the title of Project Engineer to someone without a bachelor in engineering, the Project Engineer and the Engineering Associate (one with an associate's degree) will perform the same type of project evaluations. Just my two cents worth. Regards, Kelly Colon Kelly Colon Regulatory Engineer Regulatory Engineering Symbol Technologies, Inc. phone: 516 738 3480 fax: 516 738 3318 e-mail: col...@symbol.com The above opinions are entirely my own!
Re: Regulatory compliance training for students
Why is the talk centered around safety? Safety specs are construction and performance. They tell you what to do. No secret there. Emissions specs are performance specs. They say nothing about construction. Only one course I've seen for emi/emc offered at a school was a graduate class one semester. Even still, some things some people call 'fixes' have been 11th hour gasket/ferrite panic fixes as the primary emi control procedure. In fact, starting out in the field of emi/emc, all one can hope for to large extent are 'courses' sponsered by gasket/ferrite people who want you to improperly primary design so that you keep them in business. The comments and opinions stated herein are mine alone, and do not reflect those of my employer.
Re: Regulatory compliance training for students
cortland.richmond...@ccmailsmtp.ast.com wrote: had to snip some stuff the original question was whether courses in complying with regulations should be offered in college. This is a queston with many parts to it. If it's just safety, then no. If it's emi/emc, then maybe. If it's about just regulations, then no. Isn't this issue more an engineering ethics problem, and a social consequence of our work, than a problem of technical design? I would think this should permeate all engineering. Hopefully we're all ethical. Technical design is the other side of our work. Getting compliance designed in can be much harder than discovering when it is not. Actually, the opposite has been my experience. I must as a compliance engineer make myself a signatory to: printed circuit board layout, system layout, mechanical layout approvals, component approvals. I must also be a signatory for any ECRs that would effect changes to said layouts. Believe me, designing in at the beginning is much easier than finding out in some lab at 2:00AM. I've been on both sides. Alot of the above just cannot be taught in school. Regards, Doug The comments and opinions stated herein are mine alone, and do not reflect those of my employer.
Re: Regulatory compliance training for students
Gabriel- I agree with your position that regulatory work is not done only those with an associate's degree (I personally have a BSEE as do many of my colleagues). It should be noted that even though UL will not grant the title of Project Engineer to someone without a bachelor in engineering, the Project Engineer and the Engineering Associate (one with an associate's degree) will perform the same type of project evaluations. Just my two cents worth. Regards, Kelly Colon Kelly Colon Regulatory Engineer Regulatory Engineering Symbol Technologies, Inc. phone: 516 738 3480 fax: 516 738 3318 e-mail: col...@symbol.com The above opinions are entirely my own!
Regulatory compliance training for students
I had been waiting for this thread to appear on the subject, but I guess I will raise it myself. While training in product safety is a very useful subject for design engineers, it will be a cold day in hell before most professors deign to teach such a mundane subject. In spite of its practical use, the absence of theoretical dogma and higher math puts this subject in the pencil sharpening category as far as universities are concerned. Keep in mind that this is a subject area frequented by those with associate degrees or less. Lest you doubt me, witness the relegation by IEEE of product safety to a nethermost role, in a niche of the EMC society (which is considered to have some ethereal nuances worthy of professional attention). Bob Johnson From: Regan Arndt To: emc-pstc; treg Subject: PLEASE REPLY Date: Friday, December 20, 1996 12:58PM -- I would like to ask everyone's opinion on the following subject: Do you believe that there is a need for students, who are in technical institutions Universities, to participate, in a course designed towards achieving a good working knowledge of regulatory compliance standards as part of their cirriculum. i.e: Safety (i.e IEC 950, EN60950, etc.), EMC (CISPR 22, AS/NZS 3548, etc.), Network Protection (FCC part 68, IC CS03,etc.) Thanks in advance Regan Arndt Safety technologist NORTEL
