[Emc-users] Jogging peripharals was Re: adding 2nd parallel port
Chris > If I was making a pendant I'd sure want a jogwheel instead of > plus/minus buttons. It takes the same number of inputs and works much > (much!) better. I have a real jogwheel but one of these days I'm > going to try one of the little toy knob encoders from mouser etc - > they're meant to be volume controls or something, but they might > still be more useful for jogging than two buttons. > The digital pots do work OK for FRO and the like - IMO not enough pulses per rev for MPG jogging. Have a look at: http://www.contourdesign.com/shuttlepro/shuttlexpress.htm It is designed for video editing ($59.95 list in US). USB interface. I have it set up with the spring loaded shuttle ring for continuous jog (it will do different speeds depending on the distance you turn it) and the inner jog wheel does steps. First four buttons select X, Y, Z, A axes. Fifth button cycles the step size (in range 0.1" to 0.0001") Very intuitive and fast for setting up a machine. Not so good for manual machining like you might do with a calibrated 100 click Fanuc MPG. The "bad news" for this list is that it is on Mach3 ;=) I still have little Linux sys prog experience (and actually not much with USB on Windows) - but the default Windows driver sees it as a standard HID (vendor ID 0xB33, Product 0x32). The Ring value has a range on +/- 7 so gives quite sensitive continuous jog speed control. If someone made a HAL driver for it, it would, I think,be easy to plug into EMC2. John Prentice - Take Surveys. Earn Cash. Influence the Future of IT Join SourceForge.net's Techsay panel and you'll get the chance to share your opinions on IT & business topics through brief surveys - and earn cash http://www.techsay.com/default.php?page=join.php&p=sourceforge&CID=DEVDEV ___ Emc-users mailing list Emc-users@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/emc-users
Re: [Emc-users] Jogging peripharals was Re: adding 2nd parallel port
When you say that.. standard PS2 or USB mouse could be used for that! You can connect as many as you like and changing mouse functionality to a jogwheel or a trackball is very simple. The optical sensor has well-defined DPI with +-1.5% tolerance, for jogwheel that should be enough and putting it near the wheel to sense the movements too. Just you need to make a filter for random rapid movement of the mouse. I can recommend laser-lighted mouse in that case too. On 1/10/07, John Prentice <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Chris > > > If I was making a pendant I'd sure want a jogwheel instead of > > plus/minus buttons. It takes the same number of inputs and works much > > (much!) better. I have a real jogwheel but one of these days I'm > > going to try one of the little toy knob encoders from mouser etc - > > they're meant to be volume controls or something, but they might > > still be more useful for jogging than two buttons. > > > > The digital pots do work OK for FRO and the like - IMO not enough pulses per > rev for MPG jogging. > > Have a look at: > > http://www.contourdesign.com/shuttlepro/shuttlexpress.htm > > It is designed for video editing ($59.95 list in US). USB interface. I have > it set up with the spring loaded shuttle ring for continuous jog (it will do > different speeds depending on the distance you turn it) and the inner jog > wheel does steps. First four buttons select X, Y, Z, A axes. Fifth button > cycles the step size (in range 0.1" to 0.0001") Very intuitive and fast for > setting up a machine. Not so good for manual machining like you might do > with a calibrated 100 click Fanuc MPG. > > The "bad news" for this list is that it is on Mach3 ;=) I still have little > Linux sys prog experience (and actually not much with USB on Windows) - but > the default Windows driver sees it as a standard HID (vendor ID 0xB33, > Product 0x32). The Ring value has a range on +/- 7 so gives quite sensitive > continuous jog speed control. > > If someone made a HAL driver for it, it would, I think,be easy to plug into > EMC2. > > John Prentice > > > > > - > Take Surveys. Earn Cash. Influence the Future of IT > Join SourceForge.net's Techsay panel and you'll get the chance to share your > opinions on IT & business topics through brief surveys - and earn cash > http://www.techsay.com/default.php?page=join.php&p=sourceforge&CID=DEVDEV > ___ > Emc-users mailing list > Emc-users@lists.sourceforge.net > https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/emc-users > - Take Surveys. Earn Cash. Influence the Future of IT Join SourceForge.net's Techsay panel and you'll get the chance to share your opinions on IT & business topics through brief surveys - and earn cash http://www.techsay.com/default.php?page=join.php&p=sourceforge&CID=DEVDEV ___ Emc-users mailing list Emc-users@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/emc-users
Re: [Emc-users] Jogging peripharals was Re: adding 2nd parallel port
Mario. wrote: > When you say that.. standard PS2 or USB mouse could be used for that! > You can connect as many as you like and changing mouse functionality > to a jogwheel or a trackball is very simple. The optical sensor has > well-defined DPI with +-1.5% tolerance, for jogwheel that should be > enough and putting it near the wheel to sense the movements too. > Just you need to make a filter for random rapid movement of the mouse. > I can recommend laser-lighted mouse in that case too. I wrote a jogwheel widget for pyvcp last night. Do a cvs update and you will get it. That way you can jog emc with your mouse wheel! AW - Take Surveys. Earn Cash. Influence the Future of IT Join SourceForge.net's Techsay panel and you'll get the chance to share your opinions on IT & business topics through brief surveys - and earn cash http://www.techsay.com/default.php?page=join.php&p=sourceforge&CID=DEVDEV ___ Emc-users mailing list Emc-users@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/emc-users
Re: [Emc-users] adding 2nd parallel port
Chris, I agree on the jogwheel. Because I currently don't have a jogwheel I am making due w/ the arrow keys on the AXIS GUI and it is working, my biggest problem is proximity to the work. I am still stuck at trying to figure out how to make a selection of the correct axis to jog w/o having a hardwired line for each selection? I will probably have to just try some things. If I have a momentary switch connected to halui.jog.selected are you thinking that it will index to a new axis as I press and release? Also looking in the Hal document I am not seeing halui.jog.selected, should i be looking somewhere? I do see halui.jog-wheel.axis but this is a u8 data type. I think the key to figuring this out is an understanding of the available blocks/functions and how to use them to create a program. Thanks, Mike On Tue, 2007-01-09 at 22:09 -0600, Chris Radek wrote: > On Tue, Jan 09, 2007 at 03:59:39PM -0500, Mike Cinquino wrote: > > > > With out a jog wheel: I could have buttons that would jog in the plus or > > minus direction. I would have a multi-position switch to select X,Y,Z,A > > axis. I see in halui that i could use halui.jog. aka axis.minus > > and halui.jog. aka axis.plus . Because I am limited on inputs I > > don't want to dedicate a input for each axis + and each axis -. I would > > like to have a way to use the already selected axis/channel (0-3). It > > looks like match8 might do this but I am not completely following how it > > works in Anders .hal file. > > I didn't try it, but it looks like you can select a joint with > halui.joint.selected and then jog it with halui.jog.selected.plus and > minus. The speed is set with halui.jog-speed. > > If I was making a pendant I'd sure want a jogwheel instead of > plus/minus buttons. It takes the same number of inputs and works much > (much!) better. I have a real jogwheel but one of these days I'm > going to try one of the little toy knob encoders from mouser etc - > they're meant to be volume controls or something, but they might > still be more useful for jogging than two buttons. > > Chris > > > - > Take Surveys. Earn Cash. Influence the Future of IT > Join SourceForge.net's Techsay panel and you'll get the chance to share your > opinions on IT & business topics through brief surveys - and earn cash > http://www.techsay.com/default.php?page=join.php&p=sourceforge&CID=DEVDEV > ___ > Emc-users mailing list > Emc-users@lists.sourceforge.net > https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/emc-users > - Take Surveys. Earn Cash. Influence the Future of IT Join SourceForge.net's Techsay panel and you'll get the chance to share your opinions on IT & business topics through brief surveys - and earn cash http://www.techsay.com/default.php?page=join.php&p=sourceforge&CID=DEVDEV ___ Emc-users mailing list Emc-users@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/emc-users
Re: [Emc-users] adding 2nd parallel port
> Chris, > I agree on the jogwheel. Because I currently don't have a jogwheel I am > making due w/ the arrow keys on the AXIS GUI and it is working, my > biggest problem is proximity to the work. > I am still stuck at trying to figure out how to make a selection of the > correct axis to jog w/o having a hardwired line for each selection? I > will probably have to just try some things. If I have a momentary switch > connected to halui.jog.selected are you thinking that it will index to a > new axis as I press and release? Also looking in the Hal document I am > not seeing halui.jog.selected, should i be looking somewhere? I do see > halui.jog-wheel.axis but this is a u8 data type. I think the key to > figuring this out is an understanding of the available blocks/functions > and how to use them to create a program. if you have 4 or less axes/modes to choose from, you could encode the position of a rotary switch into 2 bits. That way you save a bit of I/O. Saving would be even more with an 8-position switch, which can be represented with 3 bits. For jogging, it is best to connect the jogwheel count directly to emc's motioncontroller, as in my example: http://www.anderswallin.net/wp-content/2006_11jog/jog.hal you see that the jogwheel count is wired to axis.X.jog-counts this is a connection directly to emc's motioncontroller, and does not require halui. I think people tried physical jogwheels through halui and found that jogging was jerky, that's why jog-counts pins were added to the motioncontroller. AW - Take Surveys. Earn Cash. Influence the Future of IT Join SourceForge.net's Techsay panel and you'll get the chance to share your opinions on IT & business topics through brief surveys - and earn cash http://www.techsay.com/default.php?page=join.php&p=sourceforge&CID=DEVDEV ___ Emc-users mailing list Emc-users@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/emc-users
Re: [Emc-users] Jogging peripharals was Re: adding 2nd parallel port
Fantastic... but a support for more mouse interfaces would greater ;-) You shoul be able to set-up in settings if X or Y axis would be used, or be able to lock one axis still if a trackball would be used. Question is how to properly assign many mice at one computer? Maybe if you have one PS/2 standard and the other USB, it would be possible to do autoassign. I believe that mouse sensor is more useful than scrollwheel, especially if you have 1 micrometer stepping :-) On 1/10/07, Anders Wallin <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Mario. wrote: > > When you say that.. standard PS2 or USB mouse could be used for that! > > You can connect as many as you like and changing mouse functionality > > to a jogwheel or a trackball is very simple. The optical sensor has > > well-defined DPI with +-1.5% tolerance, for jogwheel that should be > > enough and putting it near the wheel to sense the movements too. > > Just you need to make a filter for random rapid movement of the mouse. > > I can recommend laser-lighted mouse in that case too. > > > I wrote a jogwheel widget for pyvcp last night. Do a cvs update and you > will get it. That way you can jog emc with your mouse wheel! > > > AW > > > - > Take Surveys. Earn Cash. Influence the Future of IT > Join SourceForge.net's Techsay panel and you'll get the chance to share your > opinions on IT & business topics through brief surveys - and earn cash > http://www.techsay.com/default.php?page=join.php&p=sourceforge&CID=DEVDEV > ___ > Emc-users mailing list > Emc-users@lists.sourceforge.net > https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/emc-users > - Take Surveys. Earn Cash. Influence the Future of IT Join SourceForge.net's Techsay panel and you'll get the chance to share your opinions on IT & business topics through brief surveys - and earn cash http://www.techsay.com/default.php?page=join.php&p=sourceforge&CID=DEVDEV ___ Emc-users mailing list Emc-users@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/emc-users
[Emc-users] 3D printer project from [EMAIL PROTECTED]
perhaps i was the only one here unaware of this project, but since it was slashdotted today, i thought i'd mention it here. a research team at cornell has come up with a DIY 3D printer project that you can build for $2400. article in new scientist: http://www.newscientisttech.com/article/dn10922-desktop-fabricator-may-kickstart-home-revolution.html project home page: http://www.fabathome.org/wiki/index.php?title=Main_Page from the brief scan of their site that i've done, it looks to be a x-y bed with a long z axis that holds a syringe of stuff that makes the object. the s/w seems to be windows only. i'd be pretty shocked if there weren't a huge overlap between the s/w needs of that project and the software provided by EMC. after (this project takes away material, theirs puts it back. :-) paul =- paul fox, [EMAIL PROTECTED] (arlington, ma, where it's 27.5 degrees) - Take Surveys. Earn Cash. Influence the Future of IT Join SourceForge.net's Techsay panel and you'll get the chance to share your opinions on IT & business topics through brief surveys - and earn cash http://www.techsay.com/default.php?page=join.php&p=sourceforge&CID=DEVDEV ___ Emc-users mailing list Emc-users@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/emc-users
Re: [Emc-users] adding 2nd parallel port
So, you say that is connected to EMC... does it take quadrature input? Because it should.. that is the most rotary encoders. Many mouse sensors can be programmed to use quadrature outputs. that would solve much... Also.. the enable/disable of jogging is directly in AXIS panel? (or something like that.. I did not need to jog at all, since I am running closed loop simulation/training only) On 1/10/07, Anders Wallin <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > Chris, > > I agree on the jogwheel. Because I currently don't have a jogwheel I am > > making due w/ the arrow keys on the AXIS GUI and it is working, my > > biggest problem is proximity to the work. > > I am still stuck at trying to figure out how to make a selection of the > > correct axis to jog w/o having a hardwired line for each selection? I > > will probably have to just try some things. If I have a momentary switch > > connected to halui.jog.selected are you thinking that it will index to a > > new axis as I press and release? Also looking in the Hal document I am > > not seeing halui.jog.selected, should i be looking somewhere? I do see > > halui.jog-wheel.axis but this is a u8 data type. I think the key to > > figuring this out is an understanding of the available blocks/functions > > and how to use them to create a program. > > if you have 4 or less axes/modes to choose from, you could encode the > position of a rotary switch into 2 bits. That way you save a bit of I/O. > Saving would be even more with an 8-position switch, which can be > represented with 3 bits. > > For jogging, it is best to connect the jogwheel count directly to emc's > motioncontroller, as in my example: > http://www.anderswallin.net/wp-content/2006_11jog/jog.hal > > you see that the jogwheel count is wired to > axis.X.jog-counts > this is a connection directly to emc's motioncontroller, and does not > require halui. I think people tried physical jogwheels through halui and > found that jogging was jerky, that's why jog-counts pins were added to > the motioncontroller. > > AW > > - > Take Surveys. Earn Cash. Influence the Future of IT > Join SourceForge.net's Techsay panel and you'll get the chance to share your > opinions on IT & business topics through brief surveys - and earn cash > http://www.techsay.com/default.php?page=join.php&p=sourceforge&CID=DEVDEV > ___ > Emc-users mailing list > Emc-users@lists.sourceforge.net > https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/emc-users > - Take Surveys. Earn Cash. Influence the Future of IT Join SourceForge.net's Techsay panel and you'll get the chance to share your opinions on IT & business topics through brief surveys - and earn cash http://www.techsay.com/default.php?page=join.php&p=sourceforge&CID=DEVDEV ___ Emc-users mailing list Emc-users@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/emc-users
Re: [Emc-users] adding 2nd parallel port
Mario. wrote: > So, you say that is connected to EMC... does it take quadrature input? > Because it should.. that is the most rotary encoders. Many mouse > sensors can be programmed to use quadrature outputs. that would solve > much... not by itsef, but if you read http://www.anderswallin.net/wp-content/2006_11jog/jog.hal you will see that the quadrature signals A and B first go through a hal component called encoder, which decodes the quadrature signal into a count. > Also.. the enable/disable of jogging is directly in AXIS panel? (or > something like that.. I did not need to jog at all, since I am running > closed loop simulation/training only) AXIS does have HAL output pins that indicate which axis is active, in the manual AW - Take Surveys. Earn Cash. Influence the Future of IT Join SourceForge.net's Techsay panel and you'll get the chance to share your opinions on IT & business topics through brief surveys - and earn cash http://www.techsay.com/default.php?page=join.php&p=sourceforge&CID=DEVDEV ___ Emc-users mailing list Emc-users@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/emc-users
Re: [Emc-users] Jogging peripharals was Re: adding 2nd parallel port
On Wednesday 10 January 2007 04:06, John Prentice wrote: >Chris > >> If I was making a pendant I'd sure want a jogwheel instead of >> plus/minus buttons. It takes the same number of inputs and works much >> (much!) better. I have a real jogwheel but one of these days I'm >> going to try one of the little toy knob encoders from mouser etc - >> they're meant to be volume controls or something, but they might >> still be more useful for jogging than two buttons. > >The digital pots do work OK for FRO and the like - IMO not enough pulses > per rev for MPG jogging. > >Have a look at: > >http://www.contourdesign.com/shuttlepro/shuttlexpress.htm > >It is designed for video editing ($59.95 list in US). USB interface. I > have it set up with the spring loaded shuttle ring for continuous jog > (it will do different speeds depending on the distance you turn it) and > the inner jog wheel does steps. First four buttons select X, Y, Z, A > axes. Fifth button cycles the step size (in range 0.1" to 0.0001") Very > intuitive and fast for setting up a machine. Not so good for manual > machining like you might do with a calibrated 100 click Fanuc MPG. > >The "bad news" for this list is that it is on Mach3 ;=) I still have > little Linux sys prog experience (and actually not much with USB on > Windows) - but the default Windows driver sees it as a standard HID > (vendor ID 0xB33, Product 0x32). The Ring value has a range on +/- 7 so > gives quite sensitive continuous jog speed control. > >If someone made a HAL driver for it, it would, I think,be easy to plug > into EMC2. > >John Prentice > I have a similar device, from a pro editing system, but the interface is UNK at the moment. I've been meaning to get it out and see what it looks like when removed from the panel. I suspect the outputs are a pair of quadrature signals for both the continuous dial, and the spring loaded center=0 back dial. That dial, in the case of this device was able to move the tape at any speed from less than a frame per second to full fwd/rev speeds the capstan motor was capable of, and the last step released the pinch roller for full fast forward and rewind, but I believe that was done in the dvc-pro's os rather than in this device. If and when I figure what sort of signals it can output, I may be back for hookup and config advice. > > > > >- Take Surveys. Earn Cash. Influence the Future of IT >Join SourceForge.net's Techsay panel and you'll get the chance to share > your opinions on IT & business topics through brief surveys - and earn > cash > http://www.techsay.com/default.php?page=join.php&p=sourceforge&CID=DEVD >EV ___ >Emc-users mailing list >Emc-users@lists.sourceforge.net >https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/emc-users -- Cheers, Gene "There are four boxes to be used in defense of liberty: soap, ballot, jury, and ammo. Please use in that order." -Ed Howdershelt (Author) Yahoo.com and AOL/TW attorneys please note, additions to the above message by Gene Heskett are: Copyright 2007 by Maurice Eugene Heskett, all rights reserved. - Take Surveys. Earn Cash. Influence the Future of IT Join SourceForge.net's Techsay panel and you'll get the chance to share your opinions on IT & business topics through brief surveys - and earn cash http://www.techsay.com/default.php?page=join.php&p=sourceforge&CID=DEVDEV ___ Emc-users mailing list Emc-users@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/emc-users
Re: [Emc-users] adding 2nd parallel port
Anders, I was hoping I could do that. Do you have a link to a diagram that shows a match8. I understand that it is a 8 bit binary match detector but I am not sure how one of those work? Thanks, Mike On Wed, 2007-01-10 at 15:24 +0200, Anders Wallin wrote: > > Chris, > > I agree on the jogwheel. Because I currently don't have a jogwheel I am > > making due w/ the arrow keys on the AXIS GUI and it is working, my > > biggest problem is proximity to the work. > > I am still stuck at trying to figure out how to make a selection of the > > correct axis to jog w/o having a hardwired line for each selection? I > > will probably have to just try some things. If I have a momentary switch > > connected to halui.jog.selected are you thinking that it will index to a > > new axis as I press and release? Also looking in the Hal document I am > > not seeing halui.jog.selected, should i be looking somewhere? I do see > > halui.jog-wheel.axis but this is a u8 data type. I think the key to > > figuring this out is an understanding of the available blocks/functions > > and how to use them to create a program. > > if you have 4 or less axes/modes to choose from, you could encode the > position of a rotary switch into 2 bits. That way you save a bit of I/O. > Saving would be even more with an 8-position switch, which can be > represented with 3 bits. > > For jogging, it is best to connect the jogwheel count directly to emc's > motioncontroller, as in my example: > http://www.anderswallin.net/wp-content/2006_11jog/jog.hal > > you see that the jogwheel count is wired to > axis.X.jog-counts > this is a connection directly to emc's motioncontroller, and does not > require halui. I think people tried physical jogwheels through halui and > found that jogging was jerky, that's why jog-counts pins were added to > the motioncontroller. > > AW > > - > Take Surveys. Earn Cash. Influence the Future of IT > Join SourceForge.net's Techsay panel and you'll get the chance to share your > opinions on IT & business topics through brief surveys - and earn cash > http://www.techsay.com/default.php?page=join.php&p=sourceforge&CID=DEVDEV > ___ > Emc-users mailing list > Emc-users@lists.sourceforge.net > https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/emc-users > - Take Surveys. Earn Cash. Influence the Future of IT Join SourceForge.net's Techsay panel and you'll get the chance to share your opinions on IT & business topics through brief surveys - and earn cash http://www.techsay.com/default.php?page=join.php&p=sourceforge&CID=DEVDEV ___ Emc-users mailing list Emc-users@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/emc-users
Re: [Emc-users] adding 2nd parallel port
Mike Cinquino wrote: > Anders, > > I was hoping I could do that. Do you have a link to a diagram that > shows a match8. I understand that it is a 8 bit binary match detector > but I am not sure how one of those work? the manual page for match8 is here: http://www.linuxcnc.org/docs/devel/html/man/man9/match8.9.html there are 8 A inputs and 8 B inputs. If all A inputs match all B inputs, the output will go high. AW - Take Surveys. Earn Cash. Influence the Future of IT Join SourceForge.net's Techsay panel and you'll get the chance to share your opinions on IT & business topics through brief surveys - and earn cash http://www.techsay.com/default.php?page=join.php&p=sourceforge&CID=DEVDEV ___ Emc-users mailing list Emc-users@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/emc-users
Re: [Emc-users] adding 2nd parallel port
Anders, Thanks... wow I some how missed that entire area of documentation. It looks like most of the things I am looking for are in that area. Thanks again, Mike On Wed, 2007-01-10 at 19:15 +0200, Anders Wallin wrote: > Mike Cinquino wrote: > > Anders, > > > > I was hoping I could do that. Do you have a link to a diagram that > > shows a match8. I understand that it is a 8 bit binary match detector > > but I am not sure how one of those work? > > the manual page for match8 is here: > http://www.linuxcnc.org/docs/devel/html/man/man9/match8.9.html > > there are 8 A inputs and 8 B inputs. If all A inputs match all B inputs, > the output will go high. > > AW > > - > Take Surveys. Earn Cash. Influence the Future of IT > Join SourceForge.net's Techsay panel and you'll get the chance to share your > opinions on IT & business topics through brief surveys - and earn cash > http://www.techsay.com/default.php?page=join.php&p=sourceforge&CID=DEVDEV > ___ > Emc-users mailing list > Emc-users@lists.sourceforge.net > https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/emc-users > - Take Surveys. Earn Cash. Influence the Future of IT Join SourceForge.net's Techsay panel and you'll get the chance to share your opinions on IT & business topics through brief surveys - and earn cash http://www.techsay.com/default.php?page=join.php&p=sourceforge&CID=DEVDEV ___ Emc-users mailing list Emc-users@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/emc-users
[Emc-users] Using Program Filters with EMC2 and Axis.
Hi, I would like to use the emc2 program filter feature... I've read the axis documentations here: http://linuxcnc.org/docs/html/gui/axis/index.html In the program filter section there is an example with a script (holecircle.py) that should create g-code for drilling a series of holes along the circumference of a circle. I've downloaded the script holecircle.py, I've added the following lines to my .ini file: [FILTER] PROGRAM_EXTENSION = .py Python Script py = python At this point I tried to open the script using Axis, but nothing worked, the script was simply displayed in the Axis text area. So I wrote to Jeff Epler who told me that it doesn't work because this program filter feature will came with the new version of EMC, the 2.1. So, thank to Jeff who really helped me I've downloaded and compiled the beta version of EMC2.1 (called pre-2.1). I tried it, I was able to start all GUIs like mini, tkemc etc...but not Axis. It seems like Axis is not present in the /bin directory. So I think I've to download and compile it separately. So I can't try the Filter feature... Anyone could help me? Anyway, now I've read in the EMC user manual chapter 8 (USING THE AXIS GRAPHICAL INTERFACE) precisely in 8.8.1 that program filters can be used, so I just added to the .ini file the lines (different form those in the Axis documentation...): [EMC] PROGRAM_FILTER = python PROGRAM_EXTENSION = *.py Python Script I tried to start the EMC (thr official version 2.0.5) and I tried to open the holecircle.py script with Axis. This time something different happened, the script was not displayed in the text area, but after few seconds a small window opened and it says "Exit code 256"...closed it and nothing more happened... Anyone knows where is the problem? Every suggestion is welcomed! Thank you, Manfredi _ Don't just search. Find. Check out the new MSN Search! http://search.msn.click-url.com/go/onm00200636ave/direct/01/ - Take Surveys. Earn Cash. Influence the Future of IT Join SourceForge.net's Techsay panel and you'll get the chance to share your opinions on IT & business topics through brief surveys - and earn cash http://www.techsay.com/default.php?page=join.php&p=sourceforge&CID=DEVDEV ___ Emc-users mailing list Emc-users@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/emc-users
Re: [Emc-users] Using Program Filters with EMC2 and Axis.
Manfredi, >From what I have read Axis needs to be installed. Use: sudo apt-get build-dep emc2-axis Here is the link to the wiki page that shows this. http://wiki.linuxcnc.org/cgi-bin/emcinfo.pl?Installing_EMC2 Look under item 3.1 about in the middle between 3.1. and 3.2. Hope this helps. Mike On Wed, 2007-01-10 at 20:49 +, Manfredi Leto wrote: > Hi, > > I would like to use the emc2 program filter feature... > I've read the axis documentations here: > http://linuxcnc.org/docs/html/gui/axis/index.html > In the program filter section there is an example with a script > (holecircle.py) that should create g-code for drilling a series of holes > along the circumference of a circle. I've downloaded the script > holecircle.py, I've added the following lines to my .ini file: > > [FILTER] > PROGRAM_EXTENSION = .py Python Script > py = python > > At this point I tried to open the script using Axis, but nothing worked, the > script was simply displayed in the Axis text area. > So I wrote to Jeff Epler who told me that it doesn't work because this > program filter feature will came with the new version of EMC, the 2.1. So, > thank to Jeff who really helped me I've downloaded and compiled the beta > version of EMC2.1 (called pre-2.1). > I tried it, I was able to start all GUIs like mini, tkemc etc...but not > Axis. It seems like Axis is not present in the /bin directory. So I think > I've to download and compile it separately. So I can't try the Filter > feature... > Anyone could help me? > > Anyway, now I've read in the EMC user manual chapter 8 (USING THE AXIS > GRAPHICAL INTERFACE) precisely in 8.8.1 that program filters can be used, so > I just added to the .ini file the lines (different form those in the Axis > documentation...): > > [EMC] > PROGRAM_FILTER = python > PROGRAM_EXTENSION = *.py Python Script > > I tried to start the EMC (thr official version 2.0.5) and I tried to open > the holecircle.py script with Axis. This time something different happened, > the script was not displayed in the text area, but after few seconds a small > window opened and it says "Exit code 256"...closed it and nothing more > happened... > Anyone knows where is the problem? > > Every suggestion is welcomed! > > Thank you, > > Manfredi > > _ > Don't just search. Find. Check out the new MSN Search! > http://search.msn.click-url.com/go/onm00200636ave/direct/01/ > > > - > Take Surveys. Earn Cash. Influence the Future of IT > Join SourceForge.net's Techsay panel and you'll get the chance to share your > opinions on IT & business topics through brief surveys - and earn cash > http://www.techsay.com/default.php?page=join.php&p=sourceforge&CID=DEVDEV > ___ > Emc-users mailing list > Emc-users@lists.sourceforge.net > https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/emc-users > - Take Surveys. Earn Cash. Influence the Future of IT Join SourceForge.net's Techsay panel and you'll get the chance to share your opinions on IT & business topics through brief surveys - and earn cash http://www.techsay.com/default.php?page=join.php&p=sourceforge&CID=DEVDEV ___ Emc-users mailing list Emc-users@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/emc-users
Re: [Emc-users] 3D printer project from [EMAIL PROTECTED]
For 2400$, eh? I am sure that includes Core 2 Duo X6800 with Geforce 8800GTX cards in SLI and 42" LCD display... For 2400$ it would cost if you had someone do it... It is not like you cannot do some very good bank note copies with some personal printers on proper paper these days, so are the options of 3D imaging much closer than they used to be. I personally adore more the 2.5D imaging that works in layers - by melting powder together (optical heating). With proper powder this can be done in EMC easily too. On 1/10/07, Paul Fox <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > perhaps i was the only one here unaware of this project, but since > it was slashdotted today, i thought i'd mention it here. a research > team at cornell has come up with a DIY 3D printer project that you > can build for $2400. > > article in new scientist: > > http://www.newscientisttech.com/article/dn10922-desktop-fabricator-may-kickstart-home-revolution.html > > project home page: > http://www.fabathome.org/wiki/index.php?title=Main_Page > > > from the brief scan of their site that i've done, it looks to be > a x-y bed with a long z axis that holds a syringe of stuff that > makes the object. the s/w seems to be windows only. > > i'd be pretty shocked if there weren't a huge overlap between the > s/w needs of that project and the software provided by EMC. after > (this project takes away material, theirs puts it back. :-) > > paul > =- > paul fox, [EMAIL PROTECTED] (arlington, ma, where it's 27.5 degrees) > > - > Take Surveys. Earn Cash. Influence the Future of IT > Join SourceForge.net's Techsay panel and you'll get the chance to share your > opinions on IT & business topics through brief surveys - and earn cash > http://www.techsay.com/default.php?page=join.php&p=sourceforge&CID=DEVDEV > ___ > Emc-users mailing list > Emc-users@lists.sourceforge.net > https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/emc-users > - Take Surveys. Earn Cash. Influence the Future of IT Join SourceForge.net's Techsay panel and you'll get the chance to share your opinions on IT & business topics through brief surveys - and earn cash http://www.techsay.com/default.php?page=join.php&p=sourceforge&CID=DEVDEV ___ Emc-users mailing list Emc-users@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/emc-users
Re: [Emc-users] Using Program Filters with EMC2 and Axis.
Yes I thougt that, but when I type sudo apt-get build-dep emc2-axis in the terminal, I get the following message: E: Could not open file /var/lib/apt/lists/www.linuxcnc.org_emc2_dists_dapper_emc2_source_Sources - open (2 No such file or directory) (anyone knows why??) And I've got the same message when I've typed sudo apt-get build-dep emc2 as indicated in the wiki. Everything after that went well, ./configure was successful and so the make command. So I tought that the two commands before was not necessary. But probably I was wrong. Thanks for the reply, Manfredi >From: Mike Cinquino <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> >Reply-To: "Enhanced Machine Controller (EMC)" > >To: "Enhanced Machine Controller (EMC)" >Subject: Re: [Emc-users] Using Program Filters with EMC2 and Axis. >Date: Wed, 10 Jan 2007 16:02:47 -0500 > >Manfredi, > > >From what I have read Axis needs to be installed. Use: sudo apt-get >build-dep emc2-axis > >Here is the link to the wiki page that shows this. >http://wiki.linuxcnc.org/cgi-bin/emcinfo.pl?Installing_EMC2 > >Look under item 3.1 about in the middle between 3.1. and 3.2. > >Hope this helps. > >Mike > > >On Wed, 2007-01-10 at 20:49 +, Manfredi Leto wrote: > > Hi, > > > > I would like to use the emc2 program filter feature... > > I've read the axis documentations here: > > http://linuxcnc.org/docs/html/gui/axis/index.html > > In the program filter section there is an example with a script > > (holecircle.py) that should create g-code for drilling a series of holes > > along the circumference of a circle. I've downloaded the script > > holecircle.py, I've added the following lines to my .ini file: > > > > [FILTER] > > PROGRAM_EXTENSION = .py Python Script > > py = python > > > > At this point I tried to open the script using Axis, but nothing worked, >the > > script was simply displayed in the Axis text area. > > So I wrote to Jeff Epler who told me that it doesn't work because this > > program filter feature will came with the new version of EMC, the 2.1. >So, > > thank to Jeff who really helped me I've downloaded and compiled the beta > > version of EMC2.1 (called pre-2.1). > > I tried it, I was able to start all GUIs like mini, tkemc etc...but not > > Axis. It seems like Axis is not present in the /bin directory. So I >think > > I've to download and compile it separately. So I can't try the Filter > > feature... > > Anyone could help me? > > > > Anyway, now I've read in the EMC user manual chapter 8 (USING THE AXIS > > GRAPHICAL INTERFACE) precisely in 8.8.1 that program filters can be >used, so > > I just added to the .ini file the lines (different form those in the >Axis > > documentation...): > > > > [EMC] > > PROGRAM_FILTER = python > > PROGRAM_EXTENSION = *.py Python Script > > > > I tried to start the EMC (thr official version 2.0.5) and I tried to >open > > the holecircle.py script with Axis. This time something different >happened, > > the script was not displayed in the text area, but after few seconds a >small > > window opened and it says "Exit code 256"...closed it and nothing more > > happened... > > Anyone knows where is the problem? > > > > Every suggestion is welcomed! > > > > Thank you, > > > > Manfredi > > > > _ > > Don't just search. Find. Check out the new MSN Search! > > http://search.msn.click-url.com/go/onm00200636ave/direct/01/ > > > > > > >- > > Take Surveys. Earn Cash. Influence the Future of IT > > Join SourceForge.net's Techsay panel and you'll get the chance to share >your > > opinions on IT & business topics through brief surveys - and earn cash > > >http://www.techsay.com/default.php?page=join.php&p=sourceforge&CID=DEVDEV > > ___ > > Emc-users mailing list > > Emc-users@lists.sourceforge.net > > https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/emc-users > > > > >- >Take Surveys. Earn Cash. Influence the Future of IT >Join SourceForge.net's Techsay panel and you'll get the chance to share >your >opinions on IT & business topics through brief surveys - and earn cash >http://www.techsay.com/default.php?page=join.php&p=sourceforge&CID=DEVDEV >___ >Emc-users mailing list >Emc-users@lists.sourceforge.net >https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/emc-users _ Express yourself instantly with MSN Messenger! Download today it's FREE! http://messenger.msn.click-url.com/go/onm00200471ave/direct/01/ - Take Surveys. Earn Cash. Influence the Future of IT Join SourceForge.net's Techsay panel and you'll get the chance to share your opinions on IT & business topics through brief surveys - and earn cash http://www.techsay.com/defaul
Re: [Emc-users] Cabin Fever
Well the last good year at NAMES we used 4 20 amp 120 circuits and 1 20 amp 240. More than enough for the average hobby mill. I'd guess you'd have trouble with 480/575 three phase this year but I'd be willing to bet we could get there with a bit more advanced planning. Rayh On Wed, 2007-01-10 at 08:29 +0100, Mario. wrote: > Oh sorry, that would be only - or mostly - model exposition then. Hmm, > toys of bigger boys :-) > > > On 1/10/07, Ray Henry <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > > > Roland tells me that he plans a seminar on Saturday and a round table > > discussion on Sunday this year. The show managers assured him there > > would be space and electricity for all who want to bring something to > > show during the show. > > > > Show details at http://www.cabinfeverexpo.com/ > > > > Ray > > > > > > > > > > - > > Take Surveys. Earn Cash. Influence the Future of IT > > Join SourceForge.net's Techsay panel and you'll get the chance to share your > > opinions on IT & business topics through brief surveys - and earn cash > > http://www.techsay.com/default.php?page=join.php&p=sourceforge&CID=DEVDEV > > ___ > > Emc-users mailing list > > Emc-users@lists.sourceforge.net > > https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/emc-users > > > > - > Take Surveys. Earn Cash. Influence the Future of IT > Join SourceForge.net's Techsay panel and you'll get the chance to share your > opinions on IT & business topics through brief surveys - and earn cash > http://www.techsay.com/default.php?page=join.php&p=sourceforge&CID=DEVDEV > ___ > Emc-users mailing list > Emc-users@lists.sourceforge.net > https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/emc-users > - Take Surveys. Earn Cash. Influence the Future of IT Join SourceForge.net's Techsay panel and you'll get the chance to share your opinions on IT & business topics through brief surveys - and earn cash http://www.techsay.com/default.php?page=join.php&p=sourceforge&CID=DEVDEV ___ Emc-users mailing list Emc-users@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/emc-users
Re: [Emc-users] 3D printer project from [EMAIL PROTECTED]
One issue is that EMC doesn't run on all the windows or osx machines out there. My group is using a java driver for that reason. (Note: I'm personally a die-hard penguin-lover.) I know, for a lot of people their first reaction would be to go and buy a $50 used pc, throw ubuntu on it, and use it as a print server, but it's an issue. That said EMC would be a good way to do it, and I'm sure we'll be repeating that when we realize we want a milling head and pick-and-place robot arm in the 3D printer along with a deposition head or two, for what the Stanford folks call Robot-Assisted Shape Deposition Manufacturing. That said, I'm using a Taig mill to fabricate a print head and then I'll mount the print head on the mill and use the mill as a 3D print head. Once I've got that working and my group has finished our 3D printer design, I'll print out the RepRap parts, assemble them, and have a 3D printer. (I've yammered at the list about my setup before) Regards, Sebastien RepRap.org - self-reproducing 3D printer project. On Wednesday 10 January 2007 16:06, Mario. wrote: > For 2400$, eh? I am sure that includes Core 2 Duo X6800 with Geforce > 8800GTX cards in SLI and 42" LCD display... > For 2400$ it would cost if you had someone do it... It is not like you > cannot do some very good bank note copies with some personal printers > on proper paper these days, so are the options of 3D imaging much > closer than they used to be. I personally adore more the 2.5D imaging > that works in layers - by melting powder together (optical heating). > With proper powder this can be done in EMC easily too. > > On 1/10/07, Paul Fox <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > perhaps i was the only one here unaware of this project, but since > > it was slashdotted today, i thought i'd mention it here. a research > > team at cornell has come up with a DIY 3D printer project that you > > can build for $2400. > > > > article in new scientist: > > > > http://www.newscientisttech.com/article/dn10922-desktop-fabricator-may-ki > >ckstart-home-revolution.html > > > > project home page: > > http://www.fabathome.org/wiki/index.php?title=Main_Page > > > > > > from the brief scan of their site that i've done, it looks to be > > a x-y bed with a long z axis that holds a syringe of stuff that > > makes the object. the s/w seems to be windows only. > > > > i'd be pretty shocked if there weren't a huge overlap between the > > s/w needs of that project and the software provided by EMC. after > > (this project takes away material, theirs puts it back. :-) > > > > paul > > =- > > paul fox, [EMAIL PROTECTED] (arlington, ma, where it's 27.5 > > degrees) > > - Take Surveys. Earn Cash. Influence the Future of IT Join SourceForge.net's Techsay panel and you'll get the chance to share your opinions on IT & business topics through brief surveys - and earn cash http://www.techsay.com/default.php?page=join.php&p=sourceforge&CID=DEVDEV ___ Emc-users mailing list Emc-users@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/emc-users
