[Emc-users] Big Gears

2008-06-11 Thread Kirk Wallace
Some of these pictures like fishing joke post cards.

http://www.thegearworks.com/gallery/index.html

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[Emc-users] Screen resolution

2008-06-11 Thread artoky
Hello!
I just installed EMC2BUNTU4.08 Hardy. The automatic installation is otherwise 
fine, but this version of Ubuntu did'nt understand my flatscreen Viewsonic 
VG150m, VLCDS23587-3W. I have only 2 choices in system/screen resolution vga 
and svga, so max is 800x600 and ref. rate 56 or 60Hz. I don't find the software 
to use to configure X-windows. Formerly I used older ver. of EMC2 Ubuntu and it 
worked fine my panel best resolution is 1024x768. Please somebody help me.
Arto


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Re: [Emc-users] Big Gears

2008-06-11 Thread Mark Wendt (Contractor)
Said to the little gear, Waddya wanna be when you grow up?

Neat stuff!

mark

At 02:37 AM 6/11/2008, you wrote:
Some of these pictures like fishing joke post cards.

http://www.thegearworks.com/gallery/index.html

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Re: [Emc-users] Screen resolution

2008-06-11 Thread Anders Wallin
run:
sudo dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg

answer the questions about your hardware and select the screen 
resolution modes you want.

 Hello!
 I just installed EMC2BUNTU4.08 Hardy. The automatic installation is otherwise 
 fine, but this version of Ubuntu did'nt understand my flatscreen Viewsonic 
 VG150m, VLCDS23587-3W. I have only 2 choices in system/screen resolution vga 
 and svga, so max is 800x600 and ref. rate 56 or 60Hz. I don't find the 
 software to use to configure X-windows. Formerly I used older ver. of EMC2 
 Ubuntu and it worked fine my panel best resolution is 1024x768. Please 
 somebody help me.
 Arto

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Re: [Emc-users] Screen resolution

2008-06-11 Thread Ian W. Wright
From: Anders Wallin [EMAIL PROTECTED]

run:
sudo dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg

answer the questions about your hardware and select the screen 
resolution modes you want.


  Hello!
  I just installed EMC2BUNTU4.08 Hardy. The automatic installation is 
  otherwise fine, but this version of Ubuntu did'nt understand my flatscreen 
  Viewsonic VG150m, VLCDS23587-3W. I have only 2 choices in system/screen 
  resolution vga and svga, so max is 800x600 and ref. rate 56 or 60Hz. I 
  don't find the software to use to configure X-windows. Formerly I used 
  older ver. of EMC2 Ubuntu and it worked fine my panel best resolution is 
  1024x768. Please somebody help me.
  Arto
   


One other quick question on the same lines - I did this for my own installation 
of Hardy when it didn't recognise my Belinea monitor and it solved the screen 
resolution problems when Ubuntu was fully loaded, however, when the initial 
sign-in screen is displayed, the whole lot is displaced about 1/3 of the screen 
width to the right. Is there a way I can alter this?? Dapper which is also 
installed on the same computer behaves perfectly as does WinXP (all 
multibooting through Grub..)

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Re: [Emc-users] EMC Fest 2008

2008-06-11 Thread John Kasunich
Ed wrote:
 A while back someone mentioned video recording the workshop classes and 
 offering them on DVD. Since I will not arrive until Thurs evening at 
 best I will miss most of the classes that have the most interest to me 
 (CL and HAL). On another note, has anyone done much with electronic 
 gearing? I have an old horizontal mill that I would like to convert to a 
 gear hobber, it looks like if you had an encoder on the spindle to track 
 its rotation and a servo on an index head to rotate the work piece it 
 could be done by setting a ratio between them. The problem I see is that 
 the spindle might have to turn several hundreds of times for a complete 
 cutting cycle. Can be done without running out of counters?   Ed
 

It can be done.  About three years ago this topic came up, and I wrote a 
HAL component that can be used to do electronic gearing.  It is done in 
such a way that it will never overflow no matter how long you run.  It 
will also work for any ratio, as long as the product of the encoder PPR 
and the gear tooth count is less than 2^31 (4 billion).

There is no man page for the component, but there is fairly detailed 
documentation in the source.  You can view it at 
http://cvs.linuxcnc.org/cgi-bin/cvsweb.cgi/emc2/src/hal/components/encoder_ratio.c?rev=1.12

Regards,

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Re: [Emc-users] EMC Fest 2008

2008-06-11 Thread Chris Radek
On Wed, Jun 11, 2008 at 09:45:28AM -0400, Ed wrote:

 On another note, has anyone done much with electronic 
 gearing? I have an old horizontal mill that I would like to convert to a 
 gear hobber,

Another approach might be based on G33, aka spindle synchronized
motion (most commonly used for threading on a lathe)

You can do synchronized motion in any direction, even rotary.

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Re: [Emc-users] EMC Fest 2008

2008-06-11 Thread Ed
Chris Radek wrote:
 On Wed, Jun 11, 2008 at 09:45:28AM -0400, Ed wrote:
 
 
On another note, has anyone done much with electronic 
gearing? I have an old horizontal mill that I would like to convert to a 
gear hobber,
 
 
 Another approach might be based on G33, aka spindle synchronized
 motion (most commonly used for threading on a lathe)
 
 You can do synchronized motion in any direction, even rotary.


My thought was to synchronize spindle and cutter then feed across with 
another servo and possibly an axis to drive the knee to set depth of 
cut.   Ed.

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Re: [Emc-users] EMC Fest 2008

2008-06-11 Thread Ed
John Kasunich wrote:
 Ed wrote:
 
A while back someone mentioned video recording the workshop classes and 
offering them on DVD. Since I will not arrive until Thurs evening at 
best I will miss most of the classes that have the most interest to me 
(CL and HAL). On another note, has anyone done much with electronic 
gearing? I have an old horizontal mill that I would like to convert to a 
gear hobber, it looks like if you had an encoder on the spindle to track 
its rotation and a servo on an index head to rotate the work piece it 
could be done by setting a ratio between them. The problem I see is that 
the spindle might have to turn several hundreds of times for a complete 
cutting cycle. Can be done without running out of counters?   Ed

 
 
 It can be done.  About three years ago this topic came up, and I wrote a 
 HAL component that can be used to do electronic gearing.  It is done in 
 such a way that it will never overflow no matter how long you run.  It 
 will also work for any ratio, as long as the product of the encoder PPR 
 and the gear tooth count is less than 2^31 (4 billion).
 
 There is no man page for the component, but there is fairly detailed 
 documentation in the source.  You can view it at 
 http://cvs.linuxcnc.org/cgi-bin/cvsweb.cgi/emc2/src/hal/components/encoder_ratio.c?rev=1.12
 
 Regards,
 
 John Kasunich


It looks like I have schoolin' to do!  The systems I have done so far 
have been simple ones that have 4 axiis and a couple on/off SSR's. The 
outlook is to learn enough to be able to setup a machine such as the 
Galesburg Mazak, tool changers being the big item.  Ed.

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[Emc-users] Gear Cutting

2008-06-11 Thread Kirk Wallace
Has anyone tried cutting gears with something similar to this
arrangement? 

http://www.wallacecompany.com/machine_shop/Gear_Cutter-1b.png

I was thinking a slot saw (gray disk) could be used, centered on the
gear shaft(violet). The gear tooth form could be followed with Y while
rotating the gear (bronze color) and incrementing X on each gear
rotation until the width of the gear is complete. Or successive passes
in X and incrementing Y and A could make a complete tooth so that one
gear rotation would complete the gear. Slot saws aren't very stiff and
don't side cut, so some other cutter would be needed. Part of my
thinking is that I would like to avoid special cutters like those needed
for normal gear cutting.

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[Emc-users] SheetCam

2008-06-11 Thread aaron Moore
Hi
I have just installed sheetcam on my suse box and it is brilliant.  However I 
do not seem to be able to install it on ubuntu, is it me 
or something to do with autopackage.
Thanks
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Re: [Emc-users] SheetCam

2008-06-11 Thread Greg Michalski
Before flaming - I'm guessing you just joined today?  There have been
threads about both topics of late.  Re Sheetcam - he's working on a
different distribution method IIRC, and re parallel ports start at the wiki
and in the documentation and then when you get stuck tell us where you're at
and what you've tried so far.

Welcome!

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Hi
I have just installed sheetcam on my suse box and it is brilliant.  However
I do not seem to be able to install it on ubuntu, is it me 
or something to do with autopackage.
Thanks
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Re: [Emc-users] SheetCam

2008-06-11 Thread sam sokolik
What version of ubuntu are you installing it on?  I think they may have 
issues with the installer on dapper.. 

http://article.gmane.org/gmane.linux.distributions.emc.user/7595

sam

aaron Moore wrote:
 Hi
 I have just installed sheetcam on my suse box and it is brilliant.  However I 
 do not seem to be able to install it on ubuntu, is it me 
 or something to do with autopackage.
 Thanks
 Aaron

   

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Re: [Emc-users] SheetCam

2008-06-11 Thread Leslie Newell
Hi Aaron,

Thanks for the glowing report ;-)

Autopackage doesn't seem to like ubuntu. I am testing some alternative 
packaging methods. I'll make an announcement on this list once I have 
something sorted out.

Les

aaron Moore wrote:
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 I have just installed sheetcam on my suse box and it is brilliant.  However I 
 do not seem to be able to install it on ubuntu, is it me 
 or something to do with autopackage.
 Thanks
 Aaron

   


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Re: [Emc-users] Installing a second parallel port

2008-06-11 Thread Jack
for the port, if it is a PCI or newer card, it will probably just work.
Some old ISA and earlier cards had to be jumppered, but instructions came
with them. 

Now 'just work' is another issue.  The board can work, but you still have
some HAL 
configuration to do to let EMC know how to deal.

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Hi
Can some one tell me what I need to do to install a second parallel port
apart from physically plugging it into the computer or will it just 'plug
and play'
Thanks for any help in this.
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Re: [Emc-users] Installing a second parallel port

2008-06-11 Thread Ed
aaron Moore wrote:
 Hi
 Can some one tell me what I need to do to install a second parallel port 
 apart from physically plugging it into the computer or will it 
 just 'plug and play'
 Thanks for any help in this.
 Aaron
 


Check back in the archives to about the sixth (five days ago).

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Re: [Emc-users] Installing a second parallel port

2008-06-11 Thread Alan Condit

Aaron,

I bought my 2 parallel port pci card from Newegg.  It is uses a  
netmos nm9815cv chip.


After physically plugging it into the computer, I ran lspci -v from  
a terminal window to locate the port addresses. Thus far it was just  
plug and play.
The next step is to edit the .hal file. You need add the port  
address to the hal_parport config statement and to add read and write  
functions to the appropriate thread (since I am running steppers it  
was the base-thread). Then you need to add the pin and signal  
connections to do what ever provoked the need for a second port.


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Hi
Can some one tell me what I need to do to install a second parallel  
port apart from physically plugging it into the computer or will it

just 'plug and play'
Thanks for any help in this.
Aaron




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[Emc-users] Gear Cutting

2008-06-11 Thread Ian W. Wright
Hi Kirk,

 Has anyone tried cutting gears with something similar to 
this arrangement? 

I tried to get my head round this method of gear cutting a while ago and 
gave up several times with a severe headache. It must be possible but it 
would have to be done in a number of increments unless the gear was very 
thin. I need to be able to cut gears with a cycloidal form and so most 
gears would have parallel flanks to the teeth with ogival tips. So, I 
was looking at centring the cutter in Z, moving it up to the right 
position to cut the flank of one tooth and ploughing it in to the tooth 
depth in Y. Then remove it to the start position of the ogive and then 
have a line of code rotating A clockwise and Z down simultaneously to 
end at the tooth tip position. This should give an ogival curve I think. 
The blank would then have to go back to the position just before the 
cutter is first fed in in Z, Y and A, index one tooth on and repeat the 
whole thing. When that is all done for the whole wheel, it would be 
necessary to start cutting the other flank of each tooth in the same way 
but rotating the A-axis anticlockwise. Having done that, X would need 
incrementing and the whole thing repeating again and again until the 
whole gear thickness was cut. For my purposes - tiny watch wheels, I 
could easily cut the wheel in one pass using a thin slitting saw and 
cutting on the sides of the teeth as I would only be cutting brass and, 
in any case, there should only be a very small area of contact. However, 
I got totally flummoxed trying to work out multi-nested routines and 
gave up until a dark winters night!! :-(   
What would be even more useful to me would be the ability to cut steel 
pinions this way as making them now is the bane of my life ( I'm just 
trying to sort out how to cut one with 5 leaves and an overall diameter 
of just 1.3mm ) ... I can work out the geometry OK but I don't seem to 
be able to convert it into working G-code...

An alternative method of cutting might be to cut each tooth by cutting 
along the X axis and then incrementing the work in Y and Z and repeating 
like this in tiny sections until the whole thing is cut. The 
disadvantage here though is that the teeth will not have a smooth 
profile which could lead to unwanted friction.

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Re: [Emc-users] Gear Cutting

2008-06-11 Thread Kirk Wallace
Here is an interesting gear link:

http://www.cadquest.com/books/pdf/gears.pdf

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Re: [Emc-users] Gear Cutting

2008-06-11 Thread Jon Elson
Kirk Wallace wrote:
 Has anyone tried cutting gears with something similar to this
 arrangement? 
 
 http://www.wallacecompany.com/machine_shop/Gear_Cutter-1b.png
 
 I was thinking a slot saw (gray disk) could be used, centered on the
 gear shaft(violet). The gear tooth form could be followed with Y while
 rotating the gear (bronze color) and incrementing X on each gear
 rotation until the width of the gear is complete. Or successive passes
 in X and incrementing Y and A could make a complete tooth so that one
 gear rotation would complete the gear. Slot saws aren't very stiff and
 don't side cut, so some other cutter would be needed. Part of my
 thinking is that I would like to avoid special cutters like those needed
 for normal gear cutting.
 

In theory, this can be done.  A thin slitting saw would deflect 
too much to get an accurate tooth profile.  You can buy gear 
tooth cutters and run them like this, and it will go much 
faster, which is still fairly slow.

Jon

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