Re: [Emc-users] Hobbing

2010-03-06 Thread Erik Christiansen
On Fri, Mar 05, 2010 at 01:23:46PM +, Andy Pugh wrote:

 I am thinking of making a faster rotary axis using an ER32 collet
 holder I have on a 3/4 ground shaft and some taper roller bearings. I
 would drive that with a spare stepper I have, at about 10:1 ratio. (or
 one of the little servos)
 I can't believe that there are very large rotating forces on a gear
 during hobbing, I think it is probably largely balanced.

The proof of that seems to be in the success of free-wheel hobbing. In
MEW 78 [1], a gashed blank is fed into a hob, without any form of
synchronisation. i.e. The forces must be restorative, not disruptive,
in order to spontaneously push a gashed blank into synchronisation. The
photograph of the finished gear is not large enough to show if it is
more than useable, which is all that he claims.

I also have a photograph around here somewhere, of a wormwheel being
free-wheel hobbed with a tap held in the lathe chuck.

In MEW 75, another author used a couple of CMOS chips for the
programmable divider between the spindle encoder and stepper driver, to
select the number of teeth. He describes no problems with cutting
forces, other than cutting to the tooth depth in three passes in harder
steel. Otherwise he just sets the depth, and cuts the teeth in one pass,
in an ungashed blank.

That setup has the hob running on a mandrel between lathe headstock and
tailstock. The stepper-driven spindle holding the gear blank is mounted
on a vertical slide on the cross-slide. From the photographs, that makes
the feed perpendicular to the hob axis, which seems to me to ignore the
helix angle. How that creates a spur gear with proper gaps, is not clear
to me.

On the other hand, preferring the quiet running of helical gears to the
whine of spur gears, I have run the above setup in my mind, with (a
virtual) EMC advancing the phase of the gear blank as it is fed across
the rotating hob. If the rate of phase advance matches the helix angle,
then the blank should come out the other side as a helical gear, I
believe. (And both blank and feed are perpendicular to the hob axis.
What could be simpler?)

Checking that with another thought experiment, we run the helical gear
on a rotating matching worm. As the gear is slid back and forth on its
axis, its rotation advances and retards in accord with the helix angle.

Hmmm ... where can I dig up physical examples quickest, to try it out?

Incidentally, if choosing to generate the tooth profile, using a
straight (no helix) hob, then that slow process can be accelerated by
making a three or four tooth hob. It cuts the prior iteration on the
previous tooth and the next iteration on the next tooth, speeding up the
process. (Or providing a cleaner tooth form for a given number of
iterations.) There was an article on that in MEW 107.

Hopefully some of that is useful, Andy.

Erik

[1] www.model-engineer.co.uk says it is putting 130 back issues on line,
but will be charging a subscription.

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Re: [Emc-users] Hobbing

2010-03-06 Thread Dave Caroline
Looks nice Ian but I would love to measure the wheel for errors in
tooth to tooth distance. We had trouble directly attributable to the
worm and wheel in a bought dividing head, we made some 144 tooth
wheels for a project at the BHI and they were rightly rejected, for
normal clock work the error did not show or was withing tolerance but
for a high count the error becomes pronounced.

The easy check I use to test dividing now is get your digital
calipers, measure over n teeth, zero caliper , rinse repeat but only
zero if less than a previous measurement. you then see a large
percentage change in places around the wheel if you have a dividing
error its due to worm/wheel form error giving a sawtooth error to the
dividing.

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Re: [Emc-users] Hobbing

2010-03-06 Thread Andy Pugh
On 6 March 2010 07:58, Erik Christiansen dva...@internode.on.net wrote:

 In MEW 75, another author used a couple of CMOS chips for the
 programmable divider between the spindle encoder and stepper driver, to
 select the number of teeth.

This is very easy to set up in HAL (and quite amusing too, watching
the rotary axis turn as you turn the chuck to tighten it, for example)

 That setup has the hob running on a mandrel between lathe headstock and
 tailstock. The stepper-driven spindle holding the gear blank is mounted
 on a vertical slide on the cross-slide.

That is probably the setup I will try first, mainly as it needs the
least extra hardware.

  From the photographs, that makes
 the feed perpendicular to the hob axis, which seems to me to ignore the
 helix angle. How that creates a spur gear with proper gaps, is not clear
 to me.

I don't think it does. I was intending to set the vertical slide at an
angle and use coordinated motion in X and Z so that the blank moves
along it's true axis.

 On the other hand, preferring the quiet running of helical gears to the
 whine of spur gears, I have run the above setup in my mind, with (a
 virtual) EMC advancing the phase of the gear blank as it is fed across
 the rotating hob. If the rate of phase advance matches the helix angle,
 then the blank should come out the other side as a helical gear, I
 believe. (And both blank and feed are perpendicular to the hob axis.
 What could be simpler?)

I am not sure. It depends in if a helical gear is conceptually a gear
with the teeth rotated on the surface, or a stack of infinitely thin
gears with a pitch difference between each.
In this picture:
http://school.mech.uwa.edu.au/~dwright/DANotes/gears/photos/BrownHobbing.jpeg
The hob axis seems to be tilted to match the gear helix angle, rather
than the hob helix angle.
I think that in either case you ideally want to match the hob helix
angle to cut a true gear form.

I did discuss this with my dad (50 years a gearbox machinist then
designer then service manager) but he seemed unable to grasp that the
feeds and drives are trivial with CNC, but the axis geometry is less
so)

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Re: [Emc-users] Hobbing

2010-03-06 Thread Ian W. Wright
Hi Dave,

I haven't checked the wheel for accuracy but I would think that this 
method of generation actually is less prone to errors than methods which 
cut each tooth separately. Once the teeth are established as to number 
and you infeed the wheel onto the tap, there are always at least 3 
cutting teeth (threads) in contact with the wheel at any one time and 
this should even out the effects of any minor errors in the tap pitch. I 
also usually feed the worm along the tap a little each way as I cut 
which will again reduce errors by using different parts of the tap. I 
don't know whether there would be any benefit in reducing cyclic errors 
by producing only wheels with an odd number of teeth like 91 instead of 
90 - I did work out what the error would be if I could only make a 91 
tooth one and set EMC2 up to suit it and, from what I remember, the 
error was infinitessimal. The great beauty of this method is that you 
can make a wheel from scratch in just a few minutes. I simply set up a 
post with the same diameter as the bore of the blank on my miller's bed 
( actually made as a tube sleeve over a bolt ), slipped a spacer onto it 
( a second wheel blank) and then the wheel blank I wanted to cut and 
capped it off with a nut and washer to stop the blank lifting during 
cutting. The cutter was a normal 10mm x 1mm tap and, with the blank 
initially set to centre height of the cutter, I wound the blank into the 
cutter so as to take a fairly hefty cut as I found that this was the 
easiest way to establish a set of even teeth ( i.e. not 90 1/2!). Then I 
just left the thing running merrily along as I slowly wound the blank 
further in until I thought that the teeth in the wheel were deep enough 
- i.e. not quite full depth on the tap so that I didn't get 'bottoming' 
when using the finished worm. Once this stage was reached I decided that 
I wanted the teeth to be 'flat' across the wheel so that I could remove 
it from the rotary without having to disturb the worm ( don't know why 
but it just seemed like a good idea at the time...) and so I then wound 
the knee of the machine up and down slowly as the work was still 
spinning away. On other wheels I have made (which I made on the lathe) I 
didn't do this and so the worm and wheel make contact for maybe 1/3 of 
the worm's diameter - this may be better - I don't know. Anyway, the 
whole cutting job and subsequent cleaning up took only about 5 minutes 
per wheel. The other thing I did was to mount the wheel on an eccentric 
in the rotary table so that I can easily adjust backlash if necessary to 
compensate for wear - that hasn't been necessary yet..

Why not make one and try out this way - it costs nothing except a bit of 
scrap material and maybe half an hour

Best wishes,
Ian
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Dave Caroline wrote:
 Looks nice Ian but I would love to measure the wheel for errors in
 tooth to tooth distance. We had trouble directly attributable to the
 worm and wheel in a bought dividing head, we made some 144 tooth
 wheels for a project at the BHI and they were rightly rejected, for
 normal clock work the error did not show or was withing tolerance but
 for a high count the error becomes pronounced.

 The easy check I use to test dividing now is get your digital
 calipers, measure over n teeth, zero caliper , rinse repeat but only
 zero if less than a previous measurement. you then see a large
 percentage change in places around the wheel if you have a dividing
 error its due to worm/wheel form error giving a sawtooth error to the
 dividing.

 Dave Caroline

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Re: [Emc-users] Strange MDI.

2010-03-06 Thread Slavko Kocjancic
2010/3/5 Slavko Kocjancic esla...@gmail.com

 Jeff Epler pravi:
  Which version of emc are you testing with?  This behavior is buggy in
  2.3, but in v2.4_branch and master there's a change that is intended to
  improve or fix this problem:
 
  commit 314f3aa2d90e5ec1f7840166f3e0ad11a9fbc0a6
  Author: Jeff Epler jep...@unpythonic.net
  Date:   Wed Jan 27 08:16:47 2010 -0600
 
  improve behavior of MDI O-calls
 
  Bad things happen when the motion id is zero.  This could frequently
  happen when doing O-calls from MDI, because the motion ids for an MDI
  start at pseudoMdiLineNumber and increase for each executed motion
  (? line?) in the subroutine.  For instance, if pseudoMdiLineNumber
 was
  -7, then executing an O-call with 8 or more lines of motion would
 issue
  a motion with ID 0.
 
  diff --git a/src/emc/task/emctaskmain.cc b/src/emc/task/emctaskmain.cc
  index 39ce8ad..f26c1cf 100644
  --- a/src/emc/task/emctaskmain.cc
  +++ b/src/emc/task/emctaskmain.cc
  @@ -125,7 +125,7 @@ NMLmsg *emcTaskCommand = 0;
   // signal handling code to stop main loop
   static int done;
   static int emctask_shutdown(void);
  -static int pseudoMdiLineNumber = -1;
  +static int pseudoMdiLineNumber = INT_MIN;
 
   static int all_homed(void) {
   for(int i=0; i9; i++) {
  @@ -1957,7 +1957,7 @@ static int emcTaskIssueCommand(NMLmsg * cmd)
   }
  if (execute_msg-command[0] != 0) {
  if (emcStatus-task.mode == EMC_TASK_MODE_MDI) {
  -   interp_list.set_line_number(--pseudoMdiLineNumber);
  +   interp_list.set_line_number(++pseudoMdiLineNumber);
  }
  execRetval = emcTaskPlanExecute(execute_msg-command,
 pseudoMdiLineNumber);
  if (execRetval == 2 /* INTERP_ENDFILE */ ) {
 
 
 


My EMC computer just crashes. (It's dual boot WinXP and Ubuntu and crashes
under XP :D)
So I reformat harddrive and install just Ubuntu/EMC from live CD.
I'm get latest git. As I checked stepgen.c is already right for me and
emctaskmain.cc is already patched too.

But ohcenter call still doesn't work (from MDI!).

EMC Version is v2.5.0~pre, Ubuntu Hardy
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[Emc-users] linux dual boot

2010-03-06 Thread Ian W. Wright
Hi, does anyone know where Ubuntu or Windows Vista puts its 
boot info? I have a laptop which came with Win Vista (yuk..) 
installed and I then installed Ubuntu 9.10 accepting all its 
defaults except the hard drive partition size where I asked 
it to split the hard drive in two equal parts for Windoze 
and Linux. I get an initial boot screen which looks like it 
could be Grub - i.e. its all black with white text for 
choices. The trouble is that, every time linux downloads an 
upgrade, I get another 3 or 4 entries on the list of choices 
and it now fills the whole screen. I tried doing 'text 
within files' searches (with hidden files turned on) for 
'Ubuntu', 'Linux' etc. but have drawn a blank. Can anyone 
give me a clue where the list of options is kept nowadays so 
that I can remove some of the old entries and move the 
others around?  Thanks..

Ian
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Re: [Emc-users] linux dual boot (Ian W. Wright)

2010-03-06 Thread ulises barrera
Grub boot options are located in /boot/grub/menu.lst
hope it helps.


  

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Re: [Emc-users] linux dual boot

2010-03-06 Thread micges
Ian W. Wright pisze:
 Hi, does anyone know where Ubuntu or Windows Vista puts its 
 boot info? I have a laptop which came with Win Vista (yuk..) 
 installed and I then installed Ubuntu 9.10 accepting all its 
 defaults except the hard drive partition size where I asked 
 it to split the hard drive in two equal parts for Windoze 
 and Linux. I get an initial boot screen which looks like it 
 could be Grub - i.e. its all black with white text for 
 choices. The trouble is that, every time linux downloads an 
 upgrade, I get another 3 or 4 entries on the list of choices 
 and it now fills the whole screen. I tried doing 'text 
 within files' searches (with hidden files turned on) for 
 'Ubuntu', 'Linux' etc. but have drawn a blank. Can anyone 
 give me a clue where the list of options is kept nowadays so 
 that I can remove some of the old entries and move the 
 others around?  Thanks..

 Ian
   

If you don't use old kernels CAREFULLY uninstall them in package manager 
(System-admin-synaptic package manager).
Then they will be not listed in grub boot menu.

regards,
Michael


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Re: [Emc-users] linux dual boot

2010-03-06 Thread seb
As you upgrade Linux, it installs new (hopefully bugfixed) versions of the 
kernel.  But it doesn't automatically remove the older versions of the kernel, 
for in case the new version doesn't work.

Once you're happy that the new version of the kernel boots  works, you can 
remove the older versions, and they'll disapear from the grub boot menu.

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Subj:  [Emc-users] linux dual boot
Date:  Sat 2010 Mar 6 7:37
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To:  Emc-users@lists.sourceforge.net

Hi, does anyone know where Ubuntu or Windows Vista puts its 
boot info? I have a laptop which came with Win Vista (yuk..) 
installed and I then installed Ubuntu 9.10 accepting all its 
defaults except the hard drive partition size where I asked 
it to split the hard drive in two equal parts for Windoze 
and Linux. I get an initial boot screen which looks like it 
could be Grub - i.e. its all black with white text for 
choices. The trouble is that, every time linux downloads an 
upgrade, I get another 3 or 4 entries on the list of choices 
and it now fills the whole screen. I tried doing 'text 
within files' searches (with hidden files turned on) for 
'Ubuntu', 'Linux' etc. but have drawn a blank. Can anyone 
give me a clue where the list of options is kept nowadays so 
that I can remove some of the old entries and move the 
others around?  Thanks..

Ian
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Re: [Emc-users] linux dual boot

2010-03-06 Thread Andrew
On my ubuntu it's here:

/boot/grub/menu.lst


On Saturday 06 Mar 2010, Ian W. Wright wrote:
 Hi, does anyone know where Ubuntu or Windows Vista puts its
 boot info? I have a laptop which came with Win Vista (yuk..)
 installed and I then installed Ubuntu 9.10 accepting all its
 defaults except the hard drive partition size where I asked
 it to split the hard drive in two equal parts for Windoze
 and Linux. I get an initial boot screen which looks like it
 could be Grub - i.e. its all black with white text for
 choices. The trouble is that, every time linux downloads an
 upgrade, I get another 3 or 4 entries on the list of choices
 and it now fills the whole screen. I tried doing 'text
 within files' searches (with hidden files turned on) for
 'Ubuntu', 'Linux' etc. but have drawn a blank. Can anyone
 give me a clue where the list of options is kept nowadays so
 that I can remove some of the old entries and move the
 others around?  Thanks..

 Ian
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Re: [Emc-users] How EMC face with the chanllege of hard platform development? (muti-core, 64 bit processor etc)

2010-03-06 Thread Jeff Epler
Emc works properly on 64-bit and SMP systems.  I routinely use and
develop emc on such a system with --enable-simulator (no realtime, no
hardware control). 

For realtime hardware control, emc depends on the underlying realtime
system (rtai).  In 2007 I did a bit of work in this area, as detailed on
my blog
http://emergent.unpy.net/01180573281
http://emergent.unpy.net/01181319466
but I don't use a 64-bit or SMP kernel on the PC that controls my mill.

Emc doesn't really derive any specific benefits from these systems; it
doesn't need large address spaces, and its CPU usage isn't particularly
high, at least in systems with no base_thread where you're not running a
resource-hungry GUI.  Smart I/O boards like pico and mesa, and realtime-
friendly accelerated opengl (if you want to run axis) would be much
bigger contributors to a responsive system than SMP would be.

Ultimately, it's the time to build and test each new platform that keeps
us from offering pre-built packages for every system our users would
like.  Building the kernel and rtai are usually more time-consuming than
building emc itself.  That leads us to build for a very small number of
operating system releases, and to build with conservative options that
we judge will work on the greatest number of machines.  With the next
release we'll probably look at enabling SMP; we know that this will
restrict rtai to working only on systems with APIC, but in 2010 it's
probably only a small minority of machines that don't have APIC.  If
testing proves us wrong, we'll take it out and remain restricted to
using a single CPU or core.  In another few years, maybe we'll be in a
position to make a similar decision about 64 bits as the standard that
will work on all but a few uninteresting machines.

Jeff

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Re: [Emc-users] linux dual boot

2010-03-06 Thread Richard Arthur
9.10 probably installed Grub2 which has no menu.lst. (I think upgrades 
to 9.10 retain Grub legacy, new installs use Grub2 - quite different) 
There is a useful starting point here:
https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Grub2

Richard

Andrew wrote:
 On my ubuntu it's here:

 /boot/grub/menu.lst


 On Saturday 06 Mar 2010, Ian W. Wright wrote:
   
 Hi, does anyone know where Ubuntu or Windows Vista puts its
 boot info? I have a laptop which came with Win Vista (yuk..)
 installed and I then installed Ubuntu 9.10 accepting all its
 defaults except the hard drive partition size where I asked
 it to split the hard drive in two equal parts for Windoze
 and Linux. I get an initial boot screen which looks like it
 could be Grub - i.e. its all black with white text for
 choices. The trouble is that, every time linux downloads an
 upgrade, I get another 3 or 4 entries on the list of choices
 and it now fills the whole screen. I tried doing 'text
 within files' searches (with hidden files turned on) for
 'Ubuntu', 'Linux' etc. but have drawn a blank. Can anyone
 give me a clue where the list of options is kept nowadays so
 that I can remove some of the old entries and move the
 others around?  Thanks..

 Ian
 __
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Re: [Emc-users] linux dual boot

2010-03-06 Thread Ian W. Wright
Thanks everyone - Richard got the right answer - its Grub2. 
Unfortunately, it seems to be more difficult to set up than 
the web pages suggest - e.g. Startup Manager which I have 
just installed, only has half the options the webpage says 
it should have!! Too late to worry about it tonight though - 
I have to be up at 5 in the morning to take part in a brass 
band contest..

Ian

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Re: [Emc-users] linux dual boot

2010-03-06 Thread Jon Elson
Ian W. Wright wrote:
 Thanks everyone - Richard got the right answer - its Grub2. 
   
Oh NOOoo!  Every time I learn something really arcane in Linux, they 
CHANGE the damn thing!
I know a whole bunch of tricks with GRUB that have been very helpful in 
booting a new install when the install set it up a little bit wrong and 
it wouldn't boot the first time.

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Re: [Emc-users] linux dual boot

2010-03-06 Thread Moses O McKnight
9.10 does use grub2, but the correct answer was given by micges.  Use
Synaptic and search for linux in Name only (not Name and Description).
Uninstall all but the newest linux-image*** and linux-headers***
packages.  You want to leave linux-generic, linux-headers-generic (if
it's installed), and linux-image-generic so it will continue to get
kernel updates.  This will also clear up a lot of disk space.

Moses

On Sat, 2010-03-06 at 22:14 +, Ian W. Wright wrote:
 Thanks everyone - Richard got the right answer - its Grub2. 
 Unfortunately, it seems to be more difficult to set up than 
 the web pages suggest - e.g. Startup Manager which I have 
 just installed, only has half the options the webpage says 
 it should have!! Too late to worry about it tonight though - 
 I have to be up at 5 in the morning to take part in a brass 
 band contest..
 
 Ian
 
 Ian W. Wright
 Sheffield  UK
 
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Re: [Emc-users] Absolute Encoder Connector

2010-03-06 Thread Kirk Wallace
On Fri, 2010-03-05 at 14:14 -0800, Kirk Wallace wrote:
... snip
 Well, it turns out the sensor board on my AEAT 6010 encoder board is
 glued in so it was a bit of a chore to get out. Now I need to wire it up
 to see if it still works.
 http://wallacecompany.com/machine_shop/EMC2/absolute_encoder/dcp_6885-1a.jpg 

It seems to work. I jury rigged a breadboard and massaged my ADC comp
into a absolute encoder comp. I get an output from 0 to 1023 as I rotate
the shaft magnet. Now, I need to machine a housing with a shaft, bearing
and terminal strip and give it another test. I'll post the Halscope and
comp file tomorrow.

There isn't much left of the original encoder, so I'm thinking it would
have been better to just get the sensor chip, if it's available.

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http://www.wallacecompany.com/E45/index.html
California, USA


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