Re: [Emc-users] Non EMC: Advice from Cold Climates

2010-12-26 Thread Phil Hassell
Like others have said the pipe is too near the surface.

There also maybe a leak from the pipe or surrounding environment allowing 
thermal transfer.

To cure look for those clues between the dwelling and the supply leave any taps 
open and heat the ground with a roofers torch burner quite cheap from machine 
mart.

Too protect from freezing again cover with insulation as a temporary fix.

Long term fix any leaks, lower pipe, insulate pipe, surround pipe in pea single

Good luck
Phil

andy pugh bodge...@gmail.com wrote:

I am at my parents' house for christmas. The water supply pipe is
frozen, somewhere underground and we have no water. This is putting
rather a crimp on things.

Is there a well-known solution to this problem? It is a somewhat
unusual supply, being a private, communal supply fed from a spring
into a cistern. The cistern is not frozen, and we think that other
houses in the hamlet are OK. (Which at least limits how much pipe we
might have to dig up to warm up.)

The pipes are plastic, so the idea of resistive heating is probably
out.

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Re: [Emc-users] Non EMC: Advice from Cold Climates

2010-12-26 Thread Richard Arthur
HDPE suggests more recent 'history', so I would have expected the pipe 
to be installed below 18. I wouldn't have thought our recent conditions 
would have caused a problem at that depth. I'd put my money on the point 
of entry in to the (old?) building. Get your spade out and have a look :-)

On 25/12/2010 21:45, andy pugh wrote:
 I am at my parents' house for christmas. The water supply pipe is
 frozen, somewhere underground and we have no water. This is putting
 rather a crimp on things.

 Is there a well-known solution to this problem? It is a somewhat
 unusual supply, being a private, communal supply fed from a spring
 into a cistern. The cistern is not frozen, and we think that other
 houses in the hamlet are OK. (Which at least limits how much pipe we
 might have to dig up to warm up.)

 The pipes are plastic, so the idea of resistive heating is probably out.



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Re: [Emc-users] Non EMC: Advice from Cold Climates

2010-12-26 Thread Jim Fleig
James' idea below will also work with compresssed air.

Have a good day,

Jim Fleig

585 975-9618


On Dec 25, 2010, at 6:16 PM, Jim Wilkin james.a.wil...@gmail.com  
wrote:

 I have heard of people pushing  a small diameter plastic tube  
 connected
 to a steam generator through the pipe .

 On 12/25/2010 04:45 PM, andy pugh wrote:
 I am at my parents' house for christmas. The water supply pipe is
 frozen, somewhere underground and we have no water. This is putting
 rather a crimp on things.

 Is there a well-known solution to this problem? It is a somewhat
 unusual supply, being a private, communal supply fed from a spring
 into a cistern. The cistern is not frozen, and we think that other
 houses in the hamlet are OK. (Which at least limits how much pipe we
 might have to dig up to warm up.)

 The pipes are plastic, so the idea of resistive heating is probably  
 out.


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Re: [Emc-users] Non EMC: Advice from Cold Climates

2010-12-26 Thread Gary Crowell
When mine froze a few years ago, I was pretty sure it was in the crawl space
under the house.  Heating ducts were there too, so I just opened one up and
turned up the heat.  Like a charm it worked.

Gary

On Sun, Dec 26, 2010 at 11:30 AM, Jim Fleig j...@cncservices.ws wrote:

 James' idea below will also work with compresssed air.

 Have a good day,

 Jim Fleig

 585 975-9618


 On Dec 25, 2010, at 6:16 PM, Jim Wilkin james.a.wil...@gmail.com
 wrote:

  I have heard of people pushing  a small diameter plastic tube
  connected
  to a steam generator through the pipe .
 
  On 12/25/2010 04:45 PM, andy pugh wrote:
  I am at my parents' house for christmas. The water supply pipe is
  frozen, somewhere underground and we have no water. This is putting
  rather a crimp on things.
 
  Is there a well-known solution to this problem? It is a somewhat
  unusual supply, being a private, communal supply fed from a spring
  into a cistern. The cistern is not frozen, and we think that other
  houses in the hamlet are OK. (Which at least limits how much pipe we
  might have to dig up to warm up.)
 
  The pipes are plastic, so the idea of resistive heating is probably
  out.
 
 
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Re: [Emc-users] Non EMC: Advice from Cold Climates

2010-12-26 Thread Kirk Wallace
On Sat, 2010-12-25 at 21:45 +, andy pugh wrote:
 I am at my parents' house for christmas. The water supply pipe is
 frozen, somewhere underground and we have no water. This is putting
 rather a crimp on things.
... snip

Just in case, I have located septic lines and blockage with one of those
rubber self-inflating balloons (blow bag?). At a certain pressure they
oscillate and one can hear where they are.
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[Emc-users] american robot

2010-12-26 Thread Stuart Stevenson
Gentlemen,
  I have the drives all working. I cannot get joint_2 to move. The control
will not send any commands to the axis drive. I have looked for
changes/errors. I did not change anything regarding joint_2 while working
with the non-functioning drives. I have swapped drives between joint_1 and
joint_2 with the result of joint_1 functioning and joint_2 non-functioning
before and after the swaps.
  I did a 'git pull' and saw the update did not get the genserkins.c. I then
realized I lost the joint_2 functionality after a prior git pull.
  I think the problem may involve the generskins modification that was made
during the initial configuration.
  What was the reason for the change? Was it because the carried arm
(forearm) does not change orientation to the base during motion of the
carrying arm (upper arm).
  I will be comparing genserkins.c files to try to figure this out. A gentle
nudge in the direction of a solution will be greatly appreciated. :)
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Re: [Emc-users] Non EMC: Advice from Cold Climates

2010-12-26 Thread Richard Arthur
HDPE suggests more recent 'history', so I would have expected the pipe 
to be installed below 18. I wouldn't have thought our recent conditions 
would have caused a problem at that depth. I'd put my money on the point 
of entry in to the (old?) building. Get your spade out and have a look :-)

On 25/12/2010 21:45, andy pugh wrote:
 I am at my parents' house for christmas. The water supply pipe is
 frozen, somewhere underground and we have no water. This is putting
 rather a crimp on things.

 Is there a well-known solution to this problem? It is a somewhat
 unusual supply, being a private, communal supply fed from a spring
 into a cistern. The cistern is not frozen, and we think that other
 houses in the hamlet are OK. (Which at least limits how much pipe we
 might have to dig up to warm up.)

 The pipes are plastic, so the idea of resistive heating is probably out.



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Re: [Emc-users] american robot

2010-12-26 Thread Stephen Wille Padnos
(Sorry for the top posting - I don't know how to tell my phone to do it right 
:) )

The change Chris made basically compensated joint 2 for the rotation of joint 
1.  This was necessary because the lower arm doesn't rotate when the upper arm 
does, which is what genserkins expects.  Regardless of whether that change is 
there, you should still get motion on both arms.

The updates to genserkins.[ch] allow you to unrotate a joint (relative to the 
previous joint) by setting a new HAL parameter (unrotate) to +-1 (other values 
are also possible, but are far less likely to be useful).

As for a solution - have you used halscope to be sure that there are no 
commands being output from motion?  They may be getting lost somewhere in HAL, 
not going to the right output, etc.

- Steve

Stuart Stevenson stus...@gmail.com wrote:

Gentlemen,
  I have the drives all working. I cannot get joint_2 to move. The control
will not send any commands to the axis drive. I have looked for
changes/errors. I did not change anything regarding joint_2 while working
with the non-functioning drives. I have swapped drives between joint_1 and
joint_2 with the result of joint_1 functioning and joint_2 non-functioning
before and after the swaps.
  I did a 'git pull' and saw the update did not get the genserkins.c. I then
realized I lost the joint_2 functionality after a prior git pull.
  I think the problem may involve the generskins modification that was made
during the initial configuration.
  What was the reason for the change? Was it because the carried arm
(forearm) does not change orientation to the base during motion of the
carrying arm (upper arm).
  I will be comparing genserkins.c files to try to figure this out. A gentle
nudge in the direction of a solution will be greatly appreciated. :)
thanks
Stuart

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Re: [Emc-users] american robot

2010-12-26 Thread Stuart Stevenson
ok - thanks for the nudge - I will explore further

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Re: [Emc-users] american robot

2010-12-26 Thread Stuart Stevenson
On Sun, Dec 26, 2010 at 3:41 PM, Stuart Stevenson stus...@gmail.com wrote:

 ok - thanks for the nudge - I will explore further

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uh - further exploration revealed a diagnostician error. When checking
joint_2 drive you really need to swap joint_2 with joint_1 instead of
joint_0 with joint_1. Hal config showed no glaring problems but realizing
the count starts at the bottom right instead of the bottom left caused me to
recognize I was swapping a good drive on a working axis with a good drive on
a working axis and then checking the non-working axis again (and again - and
again - ad nauseum).
a smoked fuse in the non-working drive should be a simple fix.
I should be able to scrape a little egg off my face and have on omelet for
supper. :)
having some fun now
thanks
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[Emc-users] Do _Not_ Clean Your Machines

2010-12-26 Thread Kirk Wallace
The rain came and put a 1/8 of water across the whole shop, then sunny
the next day and turned the shop into a sauna on freezing cold steel.
Only the few cruddy parts of my machines escaped the rust. I'm _really_
pissed with mother nature right now, but I guess I should be thankful,
it could be worse (don't know how, oops more rain Tuesday). If my
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[Emc-users] key press link to pyvcp

2010-12-26 Thread Mike Cinquino
Hello,

I have a pyvcp button I have created to manually open and close a collet. Is
it possible to get this button to also be triggered by a specific key on the
keyboard?

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[Emc-users] Rotary axis in EMC2

2010-12-26 Thread Igor Chudov
I am working on adding a 4th axis (parallel to X) to my Bridgeport Interact
2 mill.

I would like to clarify the standard practice of units.

Should one turn of the rotary table be 1.0 or 360.0 or 2*pi?

In other words, if I instruct the rotary axis to move by 1 with G0, should
it turn one degree, one radian, or full turn?

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Re: [Emc-users] Rotary axis in EMC2

2010-12-26 Thread Chris Radek
On Sun, Dec 26, 2010 at 10:36:50PM -0600, Igor Chudov wrote:
 
 Should one turn of the rotary table be 1.0 or 360.0 or 2*pi?
 
 In other words, if I instruct the rotary axis to move by 1 with G0, should
 it turn one degree, one radian, or full turn?


You can do any scale you like, but the standard way is to use degrees.


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Re: [Emc-users] Rotary axis in EMC2

2010-12-26 Thread Igor Chudov
Just the answer I wanted, thanks Chris.

i

On Sun, Dec 26, 2010 at 10:41 PM, Chris Radek ch...@timeguy.com wrote:

 On Sun, Dec 26, 2010 at 10:36:50PM -0600, Igor Chudov wrote:
 
  Should one turn of the rotary table be 1.0 or 360.0 or 2*pi?
 
  In other words, if I instruct the rotary axis to move by 1 with G0,
 should
  it turn one degree, one radian, or full turn?


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Re: [Emc-users] key press link to pyvcp

2010-12-26 Thread Michael Haberler
Mike, 

I dont know if that's possible with PyVCP

here's an example to achieve this in gladevcp - the toggle will open on 'o' and 
close on 'c'

note for this to work the gladevcp window needs to have focus

http://static.mah.priv.at/public/collet.ui
http://static.mah.priv.at/public/collet.py

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 Hello,
 
 I have a pyvcp button I have created to manually open and close a collet. Is
 it possible to get this button to also be triggered by a specific key on the
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Re: [Emc-users] key press link to pyvcp

2010-12-26 Thread Michael Haberler
following up to myself: this is way too complicated - all one needs to do is 
define an accelerator in glade:

the 'c' key now toggles the button: 
http://static.mah.priv.at/public/collet-accelerator.ui

-m

Am 27.12.2010 um 08:26 schrieb Michael Haberler:

 Mike, 
 
 I dont know if that's possible with PyVCP
 
 here's an example to achieve this in gladevcp - the toggle will open on 'o' 
 and close on 'c'
 
 note for this to work the gladevcp window needs to have focus
 
 http://static.mah.priv.at/public/collet.ui
 http://static.mah.priv.at/public/collet.py
 
 -m
 
 Am 27.12.2010 um 04:46 schrieb Mike Cinquino:
 
 Hello,
 
 I have a pyvcp button I have created to manually open and close a collet. Is
 it possible to get this button to also be triggered by a specific key on the
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