[Emc-users] Unified Build/ new RTOS work: general availability for testing

2013-09-03 Thread Michael Haberler
We're happy to announce the Unified Build branch for general testing. This 
branch has been in limited preview for a while, and numerous positive reports 
have come in, so we think it is good to go for wider evaluation. 

We consider this a merge candidate for the 2.6 release.


In a nutshell:


what it does: 
=
build LinuxCNC such that it runs unchanged on any kernel found on the build 
platform (even multiple versions): RTAI, Xenomai, RT-Preempt, or vanilla - only 
reboot into new kernel required. No configuration changes to existing configs 
should be necessary. Runs on x86, amd64, and ARM platforms (beaglebone and 
Raspberry tested).

what it contains:
=
This branch contains all of master as of yesterday, and the unified binary 
support code which has been in development over the last year.

does it move metal:
===
positively yes.

how to try it
===
we do not have packages as of yet - you need to build from source. Whatever 
kernel you happen to be running is fine if you have the linux-headers pkg 
installed.

Follow the steps outlined in section 3 to build: 
http://static.mah.priv.at/public/html/common/UnifiedBuild.html#_installation , 
then run your configuration as usual.

I dont want to read this darn documentation, just try it

cd src  ./autogen.sh  ./configure  make  sudo make setuid  . 
../scripts/rip-environment  linuxcnc


how to report problems
==
please get yourself a github account if you dont have one, and create new 
issues here, or comment on existing ones: 
https://github.com/zultron/linuxcnc/issues?state=open 

more information about this branch:
===
The documentation contains sections on the history, intent and principles of 
operation: http://static.mah.priv.at/public/html/common/UnifiedBuild.html


We would like to thank all testers and contributors who have been suffering 
through the early stages of this effort, and have provided valuable feedback.

for the authors,

- Michael 
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Re: [Emc-users] Spindle Lubrication

2013-09-03 Thread Steve Blackmore
On Mon, 2 Sep 2013 20:19:57 +0100, you wrote:

On 2 September 2013 18:44, Gene Heskett ghesk...@wdtv.com wrote:

 Could the oil seal be incorporated into the bearing replacement by giving
 the outer race of the bearing a coat of whatever they use on the outside of
 an oil seal and putting in a bearing with a decent lip type seal?

Not easily, these are quite exotic taper-roller bearings.
(Hand-engraved serial numbers on both halves).

 Then I'd just run it full of the oil by adding a spring loaded lid oil cup 
 just
 below the top bearing

And it doesn't run full of oil, it has an internal bevel drive and the
oil level mark is only a couple of inches from the bottom.

You can see the oil sight-glass here:
https://picasaweb.google.com/lh/photo/vcfDADDvrMLWErEmrEnm69MTjNZETYmyPJy0liipFm0?feat=directlink

Probably much like a Centec vertical head in design. That had similar -
hand engraved matched bearings, grease for top and bottom bearings and
oil for bevel gears, oil for that was Vitrea 41. They were designed as a
slow total loss system as were many old machines. My Centec would run a
couple of days before the oil level dropped too low. The casting had an
internal dam that the oil was behind and only a small amount splashed
onto the spindle and dripped out.

In practice it worked well - if it's working - leave it alone, the odd
splash of oil is part of the experience.
 

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Re: [Emc-users] Spindle Lubrication

2013-09-03 Thread andy pugh
On 3 September 2013 08:24, Steve Blackmore st...@pilotltd.net wrote:

 In practice it worked well - if it's working - leave it alone, the odd
 splash of oil is part of the experience.

I have tried re-greasing to see if it helps.
The problem is that it is more than the odd splash, it will be nothing
at all for ages then it reaches some limit and gloops out all over the
place.
Admittedly this wouldn't be a huge problem normally, especially
running coolant, it's a nuisance when working with wood as I am at the
moment.

I don't think there is room inside the bolt circle for any sort of lip
seal though, and I am rather wary of Gene's idea of an O-ring, I can
see it managing to pull out a bight and tie itself in a knot.

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Re: [Emc-users] Spindle Lubrication

2013-09-03 Thread andy pugh
On 3 September 2013 09:55, andy pugh bodge...@gmail.com wrote:

 I don't think there is room inside the bolt circle for any sort of lip
 seal though, and I am rather wary of Gene's idea of an O-ring, I can
 see it managing to pull out a bight and tie itself in a knot.

However, I could try one of these:
http://simplybearings.co.uk/shop/p83328/VA80+NITRILE+Rubber+V-Ring+For+Shafts+78-83mm/product_info.html

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Re: [Emc-users] Spindle Lubrication

2013-09-03 Thread Mark Wendt
On Mon, Sep 2, 2013 at 12:56 PM, andy pugh bodge...@gmail.com wrote:

 The spindle of my milling machine has a plate that specifies Vitrea
 oil 72 for the gears but Alvania Grease 3 for the bearings.

 I suspect that the top bearing needs grease because there is no
 prospect of it getting enough oil by splash.

 I further suspect that the bottom bearing needs grease because it
 serves to keep the oil in…

 There is no hint of an oil seal. I wonder why? It does mean that the
 operator needs to wear overallas as the grease/oil mix dribbles out
 and spins off.

 I am considering retro-fitting an oil seal, does anyone see any
 obvious problems with such a plan?

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Andy,

Other than shredding the fabric of the universe, and the possibility of
creating a black hole dead center in the UK, I don't really see any problem
with that.

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Re: [Emc-users] Spindle Lubrication

2013-09-03 Thread Gene Heskett
On Tuesday 03 September 2013 05:14:30 andy pugh did opine:

 On 3 September 2013 08:24, Steve Blackmore st...@pilotltd.net wrote:
  In practice it worked well - if it's working - leave it alone, the odd
  splash of oil is part of the experience.
 
 I have tried re-greasing to see if it helps.
 The problem is that it is more than the odd splash, it will be nothing
 at all for ages then it reaches some limit and gloops out all over the
 place.
 Admittedly this wouldn't be a huge problem normally, especially
 running coolant, it's a nuisance when working with wood as I am at the
 moment.
 
 I don't think there is room inside the bolt circle for any sort of lip
 seal though, and I am rather wary of Gene's idea of an O-ring, I can
 see it managing to pull out a bight and tie itself in a knot.

I think you envision the o-ring riding the OD of the spindle, I wasn't.

I was imagining a plate, possible bolted to the existing retainer plate by 
drilling and tapping in between the bolt holes it now has, with a groove 
for the o-ring in the top face of the seal carrier plate, possibly using 
the seals OD as the ID wall of the groove, such that you were compressing 
the o-ring against the bottom face of the bearing retainer.  No sliding 
contact involved. If because the OD of the seal puts it on the retainers 
bolt circle, then make the seal plate enough bigger so that the o-ring 
could be located outside the bolt circle. But thats assuming cap screws 
buried in the bearing retainer, which may not be the case. That just serves 
to make the seal holders machining more complex and maybe thicker if you 
have to machine another bolt head clearance groove too. The seal would be a 
normal lip type seal sized to fit the spindles OD. A 6 pack of 3mm bolts 
should hold it till the universe runs down.  And would be easily removed 
should access to the bearing be needed many years from now. 

Total loss is a balancing act, because of the potential for carrying 
contaminants in as you add what should be clean oil always exists.

Throwing oil on the wood is not nice at all.  You can't put a finish on it 
as every drop is an 'eye' the finish runs away from.  Sometimes you can 
wash it clean enough with acetone, but if the oil has any silicon content, 
the piece is campfire wood. Putting 5 to 10 buck a bd ft cherry or maple in 
the fire isn't good use of the resource. :)

Cheers, Gene
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Re: [Emc-users] Emc-users Digest, Vol 89, Issue 6

2013-09-03 Thread Bob Weiss
Are you switching to World mode?

I didn't even know this existed... I've read through the documentation a
few times I must have missed this part... This would be AWESOME if it fixes
this.. I know that when Axis did load up the Axis's were numbered 0,1,2,4
instead of X,Y,Z,A .  I will give this a try.

I needed to walk away for the night and take the wife out and get a fresh
look at it..

Thanks Andy for the help.. (and of course Charles :) )

Bob



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  [Emc-users] BeagleBone Image Available


 I would LOVE to give this a try but I am having some issues with getting
 my Delta style printer working with LCNC and it wasn't as easy as I
 thought it would be just using Epler's lineardeltalkin code from his repo.
 Even though I specidifed loadrt lineardeltakin in the HAL file it still
 is moving my printer like a regular gantry type, x axis is x axis and so
 forth.  I don't have all the time to go through this and spent 2 months
 already building the printer that I am about ready to give up here I
 don't know that much about the inner-workings of LCNC to debug this
 properly on top of coming from the Windows side of things... I am thinking
 of moving to the RAMPS/Ardiuno setup just to get something printed at this
 point..  Hopefully someone comes up with a working version of LCNC for the
 BBB/BeBoPr setup that can do Delta soon..

 Bob



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 Date: Tue, 3 Sep 2013 01:03:13 +0100
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 On 3 September 2013 00:44, Bob Weiss bweiss0...@gmail.com wrote:

  Even though I specidifed loadrt lineardeltakin in the HAL file it still
  is moving my printer like a regular gantry type, x axis is x axis and so
  forth.

 Are you switching to World mode?

 When you first start a non-trivial kins you are in Joint mode. With
 the Axis GUI that shows the joints as numbers, and each motor jogs
 individually.

 When you switch to World mode the axes become XYZ etc. You can do
 this from the menu, or by using the $ shortcut.

 If you are already doing this, then perhaps try lsmod | grep kins at
 the command line to see if the system really has loaded
 lineardeltakins, rather than trivkins.

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 On 09/02/2013 03:38 PM, Charles Steinkuehler wrote:
  I have a new version of the MachineKit image for running LinuxCNC on a
  BeagleBone available:
 
  Image:
  http://bb-lcnc.blogspot.com/p/machinekit_16.html
 
  Announcement:
  http://bb-lcnc.blogspot.com/2013/09/new-machinekit-image-available.html
 
  This is a fairly significant change from the previous versions, as I am
  now building the kernel fully from source (pulling in the required
  Xenomai code from git) and I have switched to the
  unified-build-candidate 

Re: [Emc-users] Spindle Lubrication

2013-09-03 Thread Gene Heskett
On Tuesday 03 September 2013 05:50:35 andy pugh did opine:

 On 3 September 2013 09:55, andy pugh bodge...@gmail.com wrote:
  I don't think there is room inside the bolt circle for any sort of lip
  seal though, and I am rather wary of Gene's idea of an O-ring, I can
  see it managing to pull out a bight and tie itself in a knot.
 
 However, I could try one of these:
 http://simplybearings.co.uk/shop/p83328/VA80+NITRILE+Rubber+V-Ring+For+S
 hafts+78-83mm/product_info.html

Now thats a different idea, and cheap and simple to test.  Might take 2, 
the first one being sacrificial to polish the mating surface.  I'd sure 
give it a try.

Cheers, Gene
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Re: [Emc-users] Spindle Lubrication

2013-09-03 Thread andy pugh
On 3 September 2013 10:45, Gene Heskett ghesk...@wdtv.com wrote:

 The seal would be a
 normal lip type seal sized to fit the spindles OD.

Ah, OK. That was pretty much the plan already, then.

 Throwing oil on the wood is not nice at all.  You can't put a finish on it
 as every drop is an 'eye' the finish runs away from.

Fortunately this particular  is only a foundry pattern, and the mill
was just making it round enough to (nearly) fit on the lathe.
https://picasaweb.google.com/108164504656404380542/Rivett#5919108205060994706
I had to temporarily increase the centre-height.

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Re: [Emc-users] Spindle Lubrication

2013-09-03 Thread Gene Heskett
On Tuesday 03 September 2013 06:09:37 andy pugh did opine:

 On 3 September 2013 10:45, Gene Heskett ghesk...@wdtv.com wrote:
  The seal would be a
  normal lip type seal sized to fit the spindles OD.
 
 Ah, OK. That was pretty much the plan already, then.
 
  Throwing oil on the wood is not nice at all.  You can't put a finish
  on it as every drop is an 'eye' the finish runs away from.
 
 Fortunately this particular  is only a foundry pattern, and the mill
 was just making it round enough to (nearly) fit on the lathe.
 https://picasaweb.google.com/108164504656404380542/Rivett#59191082050609
 94706 I had to temporarily increase the centre-height.

I saw that.  That old Rivett must have been fun restoring.

Cheers, Gene
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Re: [Emc-users] Spindle Lubrication

2013-09-03 Thread andy pugh
On 3 September 2013 11:10, Gene Heskett ghesk...@wdtv.com wrote:

 I saw that.  That old Rivett must have been fun restoring.

I haven't really started restoring it yet. It is as I bought it
apart from making a few small parts that were missing.

I wanted to get it working properly to make a decision on the state of
the slides etc.

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Re: [Emc-users] lineardeltakins and 'World mode' problem..

2013-09-03 Thread Bob Weiss
On Tue, Sep 3, 2013 at 3:24 AM, emc-users-requ...@lists.sourceforge.netwrote:

 Are you switching to World mode?

 When you first start a non-trivial kins you are in Joint mode. With
 the Axis GUI that shows the joints as numbers, and each motor jogs
 individually.

 When you switch to World mode the axes become XYZ etc. You can do
 this from the menu, or by using the $ shortcut.

 If you are already doing this, then perhaps try lsmod | grep kins at
 the command line to see if the system really has loaded
 lineardeltakins, rather than trivkins.



I tried to switch to World mode and it gives me an error saying all joints
must be hommed before going into teleop mode.

I then hommed all axis and 0, 1  2 all went to 0 on the MDI with a * next
to them all. It still said the same error message when I tried again. It
seems like it wants axis(joint) 3 to be hommed also since that one still
shows -0.00 with no * next to it.  That is the extruder and there is no
home for this axis. How can I get around this? I have the search_vel and
latch_vel lines for all 3 axis's #out (commented) so technically no home or
limits on machine. Axis 3 doesn't have this either.


I also tried the lsmod | grep kins line at prompt and it just returns
back to the command prompt without doing anything or showing anything ??
Did I type it wrong?

It won't let me do any MDI commands either while not hommed..

Ideas??

Bob

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Re: [Emc-users] lineardeltakins and 'World mode' problems

2013-09-03 Thread Bob Weiss
Ok, I got it into World mode and my next issue is I tried to issue the
command: G0 Z10 and G0 Z-10 and it gives me an error saying the command
would put the axis past its postive limit. It said this 3 times for each
axis

After homeing the machine and switching to World mode it made X and Y 0.0
but changed Z to -278.00 ? Not sure where it got that value from for Z?


I was able to do G0 X10 Y10 before the command above and it seemed to move
the 3 axis properly to that position. Its just the Z command isn't moving
anything?

Here is my ini file in case it helps?

[TRAJ]

AXES =  4
COORDINATES =   X Y Z A
MAX_ANGULAR_VELOCITY = 90.00
DEFAULT_ANGULAR_VELOCITY = 45.0
LINEAR_UNITS =  mm
ANGULAR_UNITS = degree
CYCLE_TIME =0.010
DEFAULT_VELOCITY = 20.00
POSITION_FILE = position9.txt
MAX_LINEAR_VELOCITY = 200.00

[AXIS_0]

#
# Step timing is 40 us steplen + 40 us stepspace
# That gives 80 us step period = 12.5 KHz step freq
#

TYPE =  LINEAR
MAX_VELOCITY =   200.0
MAX_ACCELERATION =   3000.0
# Set Stepgen max 20% higher than the axis
STEPGEN_MAX_VEL =240.0
STEPGEN_MAX_ACC =3600.0

BACKLASH =   0.000

SCALE =  100

MIN_LIMIT = -200.0
MAX_LIMIT = 200.0

FERROR = 1.0
MIN_FERROR = 0.25

HOME_OFFSET =0.0
#HOME_SEARCH_VEL =0.0
#HOME_LATCH_VEL = 2.0
#HOME_USE_INDEX = NO
#HOME_IGNORE_LIMITS = NO
HOME_SEQUENCE = 0

# these are in nanoseconds
DIRSETUP   =  200
DIRHOLD=  200
STEPLEN=  1000
STEPSPACE  =  1000


[AXIS_1]

TYPE =  LINEAR
MAX_VELOCITY =   200.0
MAX_ACCELERATION =   3000.0
# Set Stepgen max 20% higher than the axis
STEPGEN_MAX_VEL =240.0
STEPGEN_MAX_ACC =3600.0

BACKLASH =   0.000

SCALE =  100

MIN_LIMIT = -200.0
MAX_LIMIT = 200.0

FERROR = 1.0
MIN_FERROR = 0.25

HOME_OFFSET =0.0
#HOME_SEARCH_VEL =0.0
#HOME_LATCH_VEL = 2.0
#HOME_USE_INDEX = NO
#HOME_IGNORE_LIMITS = NO
HOME_SEQUENCE = 0

# these are in nanoseconds
DIRSETUP   =  200
DIRHOLD=  200
STEPLEN=  1000
STEPSPACE  =  1000


[AXIS_2]

TYPE =  LINEAR
MAX_VELOCITY =   200.0
MAX_ACCELERATION =   3000.0
# Set Stepgen max 20% higher than the axis
STEPGEN_MAX_VEL =240.0
STEPGEN_MAX_ACC =3600.0

BACKLASH =   0.000

SCALE =  100

MIN_LIMIT = -200.0
MAX_LIMIT = 200.0

FERROR = 1.0
MIN_FERROR = 0.25

HOME_OFFSET =0.0
#HOME_SEARCH_VEL =0.0
#HOME_LATCH_VEL = 2.0
#HOME_USE_INDEX = NO
#HOME_IGNORE_LIMITS = NO
HOME_SEQUENCE = 0

# these are in nanoseconds
DIRSETUP   =  200
DIRHOLD=  200
STEPLEN=  1000
STEPSPACE  =  1000


[AXIS_3]

TYPE = ANGULAR
MAX_VELOCITY = 31.8993189453
MAX_ACCELERATION = 3000.0
# Set Stepgen max 20% higher than the axis
STEPGEN_MAX_VEL = 37.0
STEPGEN_MAX_ACC = 3750.0

BACKLASH =   0.000

SCALE = -744.530002058
#SCALE = -732.32

MIN_LIMIT = -.0
MAX_LIMIT = 9.0

FERROR = 1.0
MIN_FERROR = .25

HOME =  0.000
HOME_OFFSET =   0.00
#HOME_SEARCH_VEL =   0.0
#HOME_LATCH_VEL =0.0
#HOME_USE_INDEX =NO
#HOME_IGNORE_LIMITS =YES
HOME_SEQUENCE = 0

# these are in nanoseconds
DIRSETUP   =  200
DIRHOLD=  200
STEPLEN=  1000
STEPSPACE  =  1000



Thanks,
Bob
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Re: [Emc-users] lineardeltakins and 'World mode' problems

2013-09-03 Thread Charles Steinkuehler
On 9/3/2013 3:10 PM, Bob Weiss wrote:
 Ok, I got it into World mode and my next issue is I tried to issue the
 command: G0 Z10 and G0 Z-10 and it gives me an error saying the command
 would put the axis past its postive limit. It said this 3 times for each
 axis
 
 After homeing the machine and switching to World mode it made X and Y 0.0
 but changed Z to -278.00 ? Not sure where it got that value from for Z?
 
 I was able to do G0 X10 Y10 before the command above and it seemed to move
 the 3 axis properly to that position. Its just the Z command isn't moving
 anything?

I don't have much to add, but if you have the time, please take some
notes on the issues that give you problems.

You're way ahead of me on getting the delta kinematics going, and you
are one of the first folks getting into using LinuxCNC with a 3D printer
who was not already at least somewhat familiar with CNC controls
(LinuxCNC or others).

Your experiences and impressions will help make it easier for other new
users.  Even if you don't have time to do a full write up, if you send
me your gotchas, I'll at least make a FAQ or watch out for... page
on my blog.

Thanks!

Oh...and remember:

http://www.despair.com/mistakes.html

:)

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Re: [Emc-users] lineardeltakins and 'World mode' problem..

2013-09-03 Thread Eric Keller
On Tue, Sep 3, 2013 at 3:13 PM, Bob Weiss bweiss0...@gmail.com wrote:
 It still said the same error message when I tried again. It
 seems like it wants axis(joint) 3 to be hommed also since that one still
 shows -0.00 with no * next to it.  That is the extruder and there is no
 home for this axis.

There is a way to home an axis at its current location as part of the
homing sequence.
See the last section on this page:
http://www.linuxcnc.org/docs/devel/html/config/ini_homing.html

Eric

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Re: [Emc-users] lineardeltakins and 'World mode' problems

2013-09-03 Thread andy pugh
On 3 September 2013 21:10, Bob Weiss bweiss0...@gmail.com wrote:
 Ok, I got it into World mode and my next issue is I tried to issue the
 command: G0 Z10 and G0 Z-10 and it gives me an error saying the command
 would put the axis past its postive limit. It said this 3 times for each
 axis

Can you jog the Z axis at all?

You probably need to touch-off the Z axis tom somewhere inside the
machine bounds.

If you are using the Axis GUI you can see the machine bounding-box in
the graphical display as red dotted lines.
And, also, if you are in the Axis GUI you have a touch off button
that lets you tell the machine where is is.
The problem is that it thinks that Z is at -278, so a move to +10 or
even -10 involves a 300mm move, which I am guessing may be longer than
your axes.
Tell it that it is already at 0, then the G0 Z10 is only a 10mm move.

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Re: [Emc-users] lineardeltakins and 'World mode' problem..

2013-09-03 Thread andy pugh
On 3 September 2013 20:13, Bob Weiss bweiss0...@gmail.com wrote:
 It seems like it wants axis(joint) 3 to be hommed also since that one still
 shows -0.00 with no * next to it.

Yes, that is the problem. It might even want to home some axes you
don't even know you have.

Add an entry in the INI for every [AXIS_N] up to 8 with HOME_SEQUENCE
0, HOME_SEARCH_VELOCITY_0 , USE_INDEX = NO

Then all the dummy axes will home too.

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Re: [Emc-users] lineardeltakins and 'World mode' problem..

2013-09-03 Thread Viesturs Lācis
2013/9/3 Bob Weiss bweiss0...@gmail.com


 I tried to switch to World mode and it gives me an error saying all joints
 must be hommed before going into teleop mode.

 I then hommed all axis and 0, 1  2 all went to 0 on the MDI with a * next
 to them all. It still said the same error message when I tried again. It
 seems like it wants axis(joint) 3 to be hommed also since that one still
 shows -0.00 with no * next to it.  That is the extruder and there is no
 home for this axis. How can I get around this? I have the search_vel and
 latch_vel lines for all 3 axis's #out (commented) so technically no home or
 limits on machine. Axis 3 doesn't have this either.


In your ini file be sure to add HOME_SEQUENCE = 1 (it can be 0 as well,
does not really matter) for AXIS_3. Be sure that home search and latch
velocities are 0. That way it will home extruder, where it is.

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Re: [Emc-users] Spindle Lubrication

2013-09-03 Thread Gregg Eshelman
On Tue, 9/3/13, andy pugh bodge...@gmail.com wrote:

 I don't think there is room inside the bolt circle for any
 sort of lip
 seal though, and I am rather wary of Gene's idea of an
 O-ring, I can
 see it managing to pull out a bight and tie itself in a
 knot.
 
 -- 
 
There's o-ring cord, in various profiles. Cut a scarf joint and glue with a 
special glue that's most likely just cyanoacrylate. The trick is getting the 
length exactly right. A square profile o-ring would be more likely to stay put 
and work well with a sliding shaft or quill.

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[Emc-users] Would this touchscreen work with LCNC?

2013-09-03 Thread Gregg Eshelman
9.7 inch, 1024x768 with multitouch capacitive touch. Shown plugged into an 
Android dev board by USB. $199 On the purchase tab it says Software 
Documentions Android 4.0.4,Linux.

http://www.embest-tech.com/shop/product/lcd8000-97c.html?utm_source=EDMutm_medium=LCD8000-97Cutm_campaign=LCD8000-97C

A screen like that would be very nice on a mill. If it works with Windows I 
could use it with Photoshop using a conductive stylus. :-)

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