[Emc-users] 6040 axis etc

[Gene Heskett]

Greetings all;

I finally found a pix of the controller front panel, and it turns out 
that that box does include the vfd, so I'll either have to by oe of the 
clones for 70 and change, or just buy it now, and buy the 18 and change 
set of er-11 collets since it only comes with a 6mm.

That then is a single parport drive cable. And more than likely a std bob 
inside the controller. Does the 5i25 have a firmware to drive it? For 
better control I'd druther use the 5i25<->7i76 like I'm making for the 
G0704. I don't see any limit/home switches. It has 5 sockets on the 
back, assume one per axis and one to drive the spindle, so there is no 
facilities to hook up home and limits till I invent them as theres no 
plugs for such on that control box. I wonder how they control the water 
pump?

 This guy seems to think it can only be used with a 32 bit windows 
running Mach3, which he doesn't sell.  Chuckle. Does the mach guy spread 
it that deep about linuxcnc?

So I'm assuming some signal re-routing will be required. It also comes 
with a usb based remote control, so I may be asking for some adaptation 
how to's on that at some point, hopefully someone else has cut a path 
thru that jungle before me. What I have in mind will need more than a 
std bob on the 5i25's p2 has for inputs, but if I can hack up my own bob 
thats mostly inputs, then hal can handle programming the p2 plug (I 
think, iirc any un-dedicated pins can be either direction on the 5i25.)

This might be educational as I have only a faint clue how it controls the 
spindle (and a faint hint that the direction reversal might be only from 
the 3 position switch on the front panel, possibly indicating the 
spindle is 100% manual control? That would be a "what a revolting 
development that is" discovery. Fixable of course.

I think I'll likely find out...  We'll see what sort of docs it comes 
with. :)



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Re: [Emc-users] Done with that panel code, with one exception

[Chris Albertson]

On Fri, Dec 21, 2018 at 8:01 PM Thaddeus Waldner  wrote:

> Fusion 360 also runs natively on a Mac.
>


I think the comment about needing Windows was to address those runing Linux
on their PCs. You can get a free copy of Winows and run it either on
virtual or real hardware but no one is giving away free Macs.

There are other CAD systems that will run on Linux but none of them have
integrated CAM that is close to Fusion's level of sophitication.


> Thaddeus Waldner
>
> 
> From: Dave Matthews 
> Sent: Friday, December 21, 2018 1:50 PM
> To: Enhanced Machine Controller (EMC)
> Subject: Re: [Emc-users] Done with that panel code, with one exception
>
> Lars Christensen has a bunch of Fusion 360 videos on YouTube. He
> works for Autodesk and has an absolute beginner series. It is how I
> learned basic Fusion 360.
>
> Dave
>
> On Fri, Dec 21, 2018 at 2:47 PM Dave Cole  wrote:
> >
> > Its hard to beat this price for 3D Cad/Cam which is free for hobbyist
> > and startups making less than 100K per year.
> > https://www.autodesk.com/campaigns/fusion-360-for-hobbyists
> >
> > It requires Window, but its free!
> >
> > I know of a shop that is using Inventor now and they are moving a lot of
> > their work to Fusion 360.
> > The cost is a fraction of the Inventor price per seat. Something like
> > $800 per year for a commercial business.
> >
> > I used it a couple of years ago to do some lathe parts and it was really
> > easy. The parts were designed, and G code generated in a day, and this
> > was the first time we ever used it. Mill code is more difficult than
> > lathe code typically, but still, one day. There was a lathe post that
> > worked perfectly with LinuxCNC.
> >
> > I understand that they have improved it a lot in the last two years as
> well.
> >
> > Dave
> >
> > On 12/20/2018 12:46 PM, Chris Albertson wrote:
> > > On Thu, Dec 20, 2018 at 2:19 AM Les Newell 
> > > wrote:
> > >
> > >>> Can your cad/cam program do that in 300 LOC? 100k LOC maybe.
> > > Who knows. No one EVER reads the g-code or counts the lines. I have
> some
> > > files with a few million lines.
> > >
> > > But here is another question: Can you hand code a DB9 cut out in less
> than
> > > 6 minutes? THAT is what matters.
> > >
> > > And can you hand code a compound curve, like a small part for a
> human-like
> > > prosthec hand?
> > >
> > >
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Re: [Emc-users] Done with that panel code, with one exception

[Thaddeus Waldner]

Fusion 360 also runs natively on a Mac.

Thaddeus Waldner


From: Dave Matthews 
Sent: Friday, December 21, 2018 1:50 PM
To: Enhanced Machine Controller (EMC)
Subject: Re: [Emc-users] Done with that panel code, with one exception

Lars Christensen has a bunch of Fusion 360 videos on YouTube. He
works for Autodesk and has an absolute beginner series. It is how I
learned basic Fusion 360.

Dave

On Fri, Dec 21, 2018 at 2:47 PM Dave Cole  wrote:
>
> Its hard to beat this price for 3D Cad/Cam which is free for hobbyist
> and startups making less than 100K per year.
> https://www.autodesk.com/campaigns/fusion-360-for-hobbyists
>
> It requires Window, but its free!
>
> I know of a shop that is using Inventor now and they are moving a lot of
> their work to Fusion 360.
> The cost is a fraction of the Inventor price per seat. Something like
> $800 per year for a commercial business.
>
> I used it a couple of years ago to do some lathe parts and it was really
> easy. The parts were designed, and G code generated in a day, and this
> was the first time we ever used it. Mill code is more difficult than
> lathe code typically, but still, one day. There was a lathe post that
> worked perfectly with LinuxCNC.
>
> I understand that they have improved it a lot in the last two years as well.
>
> Dave
>
> On 12/20/2018 12:46 PM, Chris Albertson wrote:
> > On Thu, Dec 20, 2018 at 2:19 AM Les Newell 
> > wrote:
> >
> >>> Can your cad/cam program do that in 300 LOC? 100k LOC maybe.
> > Who knows. No one EVER reads the g-code or counts the lines. I have some
> > files with a few million lines.
> >
> > But here is another question: Can you hand code a DB9 cut out in less than
> > 6 minutes? THAT is what matters.
> >
> > And can you hand code a compound curve, like a small part for a human-like
> > prosthec hand?
> >
> >
> >
> >
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Re: [Emc-users] sim still broken

[Gene Heskett]

On Friday 21 December 2018 20:16:04 andy pugh wrote:

> On Fri, 21 Dec 2018 at 20:07, Gene Heskett  
wrote:
> > What do you folks think of this:
> > 
> If it is to replace a mildly broken sim config... Don't be daft.

I expect the sim to get fixed, eventually. No hurry but I reserve the 
right to mention it annually. ;-)  Squeaky wheel theory and all that...

No Andy, its to replace the 15+ yo HF I've spent twice that trying yo 
make it usefull, and I unscrewed the x screw out of its ball nut today 
trying to find another 1/4 of x to carve this panel.  But I stepped up 
the the 1500 watt motor with an er-11 collet, and offered him his 
asking, keep the controller but throw in a set of er-11 collets and the 
water tank.  Now I gotta make a lower table to put it on  as I don't 
think the gantry with z up will clear the shelf the keyboard and the 
detrious heap of handy tools etc, that this mill extends its x table 
under when working on its left end.

> If you want it, then go for it.

If he takes it, yep.

Cheers, Gene Heskett
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Re: [Emc-users] Stuart Steveson you still here?

[Gene Heskett]

On Friday 21 December 2018 19:31:17 Stuart Stevenson wrote:

> Sorry no

'Fraid of that.

Thanks Stuart.

I'm thru putzing with this $350 HF, so I just made an offer of $1185 on a 
gantry model with a 750mm x table, with 120mm of z clearance, but keep 
the controller and throw in a set of er-11 collets and the water tank. 
I'll cobble up a higher voltage supply and see how my 2M542's drive the 
nema 57 motors at 3 amps each. Also comes with a reduction belt drive 
4th axis. Teeny little thing though. Doesn't look like it has much 
holding torque... But we'll see.

We'll see what he says. Heck, I spend that and more in 90 days for the 
Woman's smoke. My toys I think are less a year than that. By quite a 
bit.

Cheers, & have a Merry Christmas Stuart, Gene Heskett
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Re: [Emc-users] sim still broken

[andy pugh]

On Fri, 21 Dec 2018 at 20:07, Gene Heskett  wrote:

> What do you folks think of this:
> 

Re: [Emc-users] sim still broken

[Gene Heskett]

On Friday 21 December 2018 15:05:30 Gene Heskett wrote:

> On Friday 21 December 2018 14:36:50 Gene Heskett wrote:
>
> What do you folks think of this:
> aving-Drilling-Milling-Machine/163037438074?_trkparms=aid%3D555018%26al
>go%3DPL.SIM%26ao%3D1%26asc%3D20131003132420%26meid%3D28189aeb80c24961aa
>e24f9b6b2431c1%26pid%3D15%26rk%3D3%26rkt%3D12%26mehot%3Dpp%26sd%3D2
>53779171110%26itm%3D163037438074&_trksid=p2047675.c15.m1851> It
> looks as if I could almost plug it into the motor drivers from this
> machines controller, at least the plugs shown in the pix sure look
> familiar.
>
> Cheers, Gene Heskett

Actually, no one has commented, and since I haven't given me a birthday 
or Christmas present in several years, and for another 100 bucks I get a 
1500 watt watercooled motor with an er11 collet, so I'm tempted to drop 
the card. I've spent way more than $1185 on this teeny little hf mill 
trying to make it usefull over the last 15+ years. And I spend 1/3 of 
that on smoke for my lady a month because she can't quit. 3 cartons=$164 
& change, lasts about 10-11 days. Thats $450 or so a month.

So I made an offer at his asking, but keep the controller and throw in a 
water tank and a set of er-11 collets.

I'll drive it with what I have, and weigh this POS HF for scrap. If he 
takes the offer, Jan 4th should find it on my front deck.

Cheers, Gene Heskett
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Re: [Emc-users] Stuart Steveson you still here?

[Stuart Stevenson]

Sorry no

On Fri, Dec 21, 2018, 1:22 PM Gene Heskett 
> I managed to screw the nut off the end of my X screw, trying to get this
> connector pattern which is 11 13/16 long plus a 4mm tool long. And the
> screws you sold me all those years ago are about 1.5" of travel short of
> being able to do it comfortably.
>
> The were 8mm diameter with a non-threaded cartridge nut I had to make
> holders for. Which I did, but its crowded under that table, so has no
> room for a 12mm screw. The screw maybe could fit, but theres only around
> 3/4" of height for the nut assembly.
>
> I've been looking around the net for several hours and been looking for
> that bag of .0635" balls I restuffed those nuts with but the only
> supplier has to get the screw from China then make the nut, with an unk
> cost, and at least 6 to 8 weeks of lead time.
>
> So I am wondering if you've stumbled over any more of those screws but
> perhaps 2" longer?
>
> Thanks & Merry Christmas.
> Cheers, Gene Heskett.
> --
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Re: [Emc-users] sim still broken

[Gene Heskett]

On Friday 21 December 2018 14:36:50 Gene Heskett wrote:

What do you folks think of this:

It looks as if I could almost plug it into the motor drivers from this 
machines controller, at least the plugs shown in the pix sure look 
familiar.

Cheers, Gene Heskett
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Re: [Emc-users] Done with that panel code, with one exception

[Dave Matthews]

Lars Christensen has a bunch of Fusion 360 videos on YouTube.  He
works for Autodesk and has an absolute beginner series.  It is how I
learned basic Fusion 360.

Dave

On Fri, Dec 21, 2018 at 2:47 PM Dave Cole  wrote:
>
> Its hard to beat this price for 3D Cad/Cam which is free for hobbyist
> and startups making less than 100K per year.
> https://www.autodesk.com/campaigns/fusion-360-for-hobbyists
>
> It requires Window, but its free!
>
> I know of a shop that is using Inventor now and they are moving a lot of
> their work to Fusion 360.
> The cost is a fraction of the Inventor price per seat.  Something like
> $800 per year for a commercial business.
>
> I used it a couple of years ago to do some lathe parts and it was really
> easy.   The parts were designed, and G code generated in a day, and this
> was the first time we ever used it.   Mill code is more difficult than
> lathe code typically, but still, one day.  There was a lathe post that
> worked perfectly with LinuxCNC.
>
> I understand that they have improved it a lot in the last two years as well.
>
> Dave
>
> On 12/20/2018 12:46 PM, Chris Albertson wrote:
> > On Thu, Dec 20, 2018 at 2:19 AM Les Newell 
> > wrote:
> >
> >>> Can your cad/cam program do that in 300 LOC? 100k LOC maybe.
> >   Who knows.  No one EVER reads the g-code or counts the lines.  I have some
> > files with a few million lines.
> >
> > But here is another question:  Can you hand code a DB9 cut out in less than
> > 6 minutes?   THAT is what matters.
> >
> > And can you hand code a compound curve, like a small part for a human-like
> > prosthec hand?
> >
> >
> >
> >
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Re: [Emc-users] Done with that panel code, with one exception

[Dave Cole]

Its hard to beat this price for 3D Cad/Cam which is free for hobbyist 
and startups making less than 100K per year.

https://www.autodesk.com/campaigns/fusion-360-for-hobbyists

It requires Window, but its free!

I know of a shop that is using Inventor now and they are moving a lot of 
their work to Fusion 360.
The cost is a fraction of the Inventor price per seat.  Something like 
$800 per year for a commercial business.


I used it a couple of years ago to do some lathe parts and it was really 
easy.   The parts were designed, and G code generated in a day, and this 
was the first time we ever used it.   Mill code is more difficult than 
lathe code typically, but still, one day.  There was a lathe post that 
worked perfectly with LinuxCNC.


I understand that they have improved it a lot in the last two years as well.

Dave

On 12/20/2018 12:46 PM, Chris Albertson wrote:

On Thu, Dec 20, 2018 at 2:19 AM Les Newell 
wrote:


Can your cad/cam program do that in 300 LOC? 100k LOC maybe.

  Who knows.  No one EVER reads the g-code or counts the lines.  I have some
files with a few million lines.

But here is another question:  Can you hand code a DB9 cut out in less than
6 minutes?   THAT is what matters.

And can you hand code a compound curve, like a small part for a human-like
prosthec hand?







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Re: [Emc-users] sim still broken

[Gene Heskett]

On Friday 21 December 2018 09:07:15 andy pugh wrote:

> On Fri, 21 Dec 2018 at 14:00, Gene Heskett  
wrote:
> > The sim on this machine is still broken, home switches are left
> > activated so it can't be rehomed.
>
> Why do you care about re-homing the sim configs? I accept that it
> isn't ideal as an example for LinuxCNC newbies, but you are running
> real hardware.

Not on this machine here in the house, it has no hardware to run.

> And if just testing ideas in the sims, why re-home? (Do you habitually
> re-home your real machines).

The machine in question, yes, has no home switches since I used the last 
i/o on the parport for a shared limit switch to keep from unscrewing the 
screw out of the nut. and I usually put home at the left front of the 
material on the table, and run + for both axis's from there. But the 
overide limits checkbox ate my lunch when I hit the wrong keyboard key, 
while watching the dro because I need about .25" away from that switch 
to run this program.

I'd just say to hell with it and buy a bare gantry & move all the motors, 
but most gantry's don't have enough z-up to change tools. I am sure 
tired of fighting with the short x screw in this one though.

> In any case, you can jog the axes off of the home switches and then
> re-home, if you really need to.

 But that doesn't home it where I need it, it homes it to wherever I 
jogged it to.

Cheers, Gene Heskett
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[Emc-users] Stuart Steveson you still here?

[Gene Heskett]

I managed to screw the nut off the end of my X screw, trying to get this  
connector pattern which is 11 13/16 long plus a 4mm tool long. And the 
screws you sold me all those years ago are about 1.5" of travel short of 
being able to do it comfortably.

The were 8mm diameter with a non-threaded cartridge nut I had to make 
holders for. Which I did, but its crowded under that table, so has no 
room for a 12mm screw. The screw maybe could fit, but theres only around 
3/4" of height for the nut assembly.

I've been looking around the net for several hours and been looking for 
that bag of .0635" balls I restuffed those nuts with but the only 
supplier has to get the screw from China then make the nut, with an unk 
cost, and at least 6 to 8 weeks of lead time.

So I am wondering if you've stumbled over any more of those screws but 
perhaps 2" longer?

Thanks & Merry Christmas.
Cheers, Gene Heskett.
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Re: [Emc-users] Axis(gremlin) for horizontal mill

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More experiments:

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Re: [Emc-users] sim still broken

[andy pugh]

On Fri, 21 Dec 2018 at 14:00, Gene Heskett  wrote:

> The sim on this machine is still broken, home switches are left activated
> so it can't be rehomed.

Why do you care about re-homing the sim configs? I accept that it
isn't ideal as an example for LinuxCNC newbies, but you are running
real hardware.
And if just testing ideas in the sims, why re-home? (Do you habitually
re-home your real machines).

In any case, you can jog the axes off of the home switches and then
re-home, if you really need to.

-- 
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designed for the especial use of mechanical geniuses, daredevils and
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[Emc-users] sim still broken

[Gene Heskett]

Greetings all;

The sim on this machine is still broken, home switches are left activated 
so it can't be rehomed. And everytime I try to update it, all my hacks 
to duplicate the other machines I have disappear.

Is there not some way to update master sim without nukeing the config 
files where I did have the operating envelope defined? I'd also hacked 
up a timer to simulate a probe hit in one of the hal files, and a couple 
other things in the hal dept.

Loseing all that, which I don't lose on the real machine when upgradeing 
their master, tends to make the sim pretty worthless. Right now its the 
envelope limits that are way too small, zup limit is only .1" for 
instance, when both of the real machines can move both sides of z=0 by 
several inches due to the jackup needed for r8 changeing when a big 
drill chuck is in the r8.  And the x+ limit won't allow this code to 
run. Period, no run anyway works.

What it also did, pointed to a extra move that wasn't needed, the sim 
complained about not enough room for a leadin G42 move, while the real 
thing was happy as a lark. Turned out to need a short move back to 0,0 
before I started cutting holes. Either move was several tool radius's

Its 50F out, so I think I'll go feed the missus and take my one lonesome 
4mm tool out and try it.

Merry Christmas everybody.

Cheers, Gene Heskett
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Re: [Emc-users] Axis(gremlin) for horizontal mill

[Rick Moscoloni]

Really nice!, I was waiting for something like this for my plasma tube
cutter, did you make a branch of this in git?
regards
rick

El mié., 19 dic. 2018 a las 15:38, nkp () escribió:

> The video shows the principle of visualization of a rotating table.
> To do:
> to rotate the source contour.
>
> https://youtu.be/Gk50wphVu80
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